Obama is the anti-christ

[King Shizzo]

shizzo go have a few beers

Thats not fair. What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?

[Archer77]

and what makes you think I have not done that? because I disagree with you on a few points?

Because you make broad easily disproven statements like every university on the planet agrees with you.

[Archer77]

Thats not fair. What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?

As much as attacking me personally or trying to mock me does. 

[avxo]

I am sure there are some who believe this, I have no doubt at all, but what I know is they do not teach that in history class as it is still accepted as his context on Jesus is beyond a reasonable doubt. When that changes i will accept that argument until then I won`t.

BTW you have a masters degree in history, well I have a PhD in history lol  

Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that there was a historical person called Jesus and he's not an amalgam. So what? This proves nothing important about Jesus, except that a historical figure named Jesus existed.

It doesn't prove he was born of a virgin, it doesn't prove he was God, it doesn't prove that he died and was resurrected. It's no different than knowing a historical person named John Johnson existed.

So your point is... what exactly "Dr." Hard?

[King Shizzo]

As much as attacking me personally or trying to mock me does. 

Onetimehard seems to be on the brink.  

[OTHstrong]

I honestly do.  My focus is East Asia, mainly Japan. I understand what youre trying to do.  Instead of being civil and having a friendly debate you're going to mock me now.  I'm not going to do that.  

Listen, I enjoyed this conversation very much. If you think this is beefing you in any way then you are crazy, this was civilized and I do respect your views, come on bro this was fun and my word I was not insulted once and I hope you weren't`t either.

But to be fair I must keep it real and owe you at least my honesty, I do not believe you have a masters degree in history, you might have one, I do not know. All i am saying is I don`t believe you, this is getbig, i hear wild claims all day.

[Archer77]

Onetimehard seems to be on the brink.  

I always try to be civil, man.  Calling me a keyboard warrior who lives in his moms basement is unnecessary.  Not only is it unoriginal but it makes no sense since I'm not being aggressive or insulting.  

[OTHstrong]

Lets assume, for the sake of argument, that there was a historical person called Jesus and he's not an amalgam. So what? This proves nothing important about Jesus, except that a historical figure named Jesus existed.

It doesn't prove he was born of a virgin, it doesn't prove he was God, it doesn't prove that be died and was resurrected.

So your point is... what exactly Dr. Hard?

I 100% agree with you, 100%, no less. Now, what was your point again?  

[avxo]

I 100% agree with you, 100%, no less. Now, what was your point again?  

I just don't see what Josephus' writings have to do with this. At best they establish that some guy walked around saying "I'm Jesus, yo." And?

[OTHstrong]

I always try to be civil, man.  Calling me a keyboard warrior who lives in his moms basement is unnecessary.  Not only is it unoriginal but it makes no sense since I'm not being aggressive or insulting.  

lmao, someone is sensitive and you claimed I was the one getting angry, wow.

That was a sarcastic remark and more of a friendly insult in retaliation of your assumptions that my info comes from some wild Christian site somewhere.

This was an even attack in regards to both of us. To judge me for it is being a hypocrite

[Archer77]

Listen, I enjoyed this conversation very much. If you think this is beefing you in any way then you are crazy, this was civilized and I do respect your views, come on bro this was fun and my word I was not insulted once and I hope you weren't`t either.

But to be fair I must keep it real and owe you at least my honesty, I do not believe you have a masters degree in history, you might have one, I do not know. All i am saying is I don`t believe you, this is getbig, i hear wild claims all day.

I understand that you wouldn't believe me, this is getbig.  I really do have have a masters in Asian studies from U of M.  I'm 36, do not live in my parents basement and I own my home in a quaint small town in Michigan.  

[OTHstrong]

I just don't see what Josephus' writings have to do with this. At best they establish that some guy walked around saying "I'm Jesus, yo." And?

Hey bro i am not the one who argued that 

[King Shizzo]

Onetimehard lets his faith dictate his findings. We are all arguing "what ifs" here.

[OTHstrong]

I understand that you wouldn't believe me, this is getbig.  I really do have have a masters in Asian studies from U of M.  I'm 36, do not live in my parents basement and I own my home in a quaint small town in Michigan.  

I know you don`t live in your parents basement, jeez

[Archer77]

lmao, someone is sensitive and you claimed I was the one getting angry, wow.

That was a sarcastic remark and more of a friendly insult in retaliation of your assumptions that my info comes from some wild Christian site somewhere.

This was an even attack in regards to both of us. To judge me for it is being a hypocrite

I have read your position on a Christian website as well as from books on Christian apologetics.  It wasnt an insult to assume that is where you derived your opinion.  From my perspective it made sense since that is the only place I've ever seen it seriously discussed.

[OTHstrong]

Onetimehard lets his faith dictate his findings. We are all arguing "what ifs" here.

what makes you say that?

[OTHstrong]

I have read your position on a Christian website as well as from books on Christian apologetics.  It wasnt an insult to assume that is where you derived your opinion.  From my perspective it made sense since that is the only place I've ever seen it seriously discussed.

fair enough but it was still not classy for you to use that on me.

[King Shizzo]

what makes you say that?

Faith blurs everything. I hope everything about jesus/heaven proves to be true. I do not have faith that it does.  Hope and faith are two very different things.

[Archer77]

fair enough but it was still not classy for you to use that on me.

I was hoping you would broaden your search criteria, is all.

[OTHstrong]

Faith blurs everything. I hope everything about jesus/heaven proves to be true. I do not have faith that it does.  Hope and faith are two very different things.

wrong, only the fundamentalist. the average Christians is no different then you.

[OTHstrong]

I was hoping you would broaden your search criteria, is all.

I always try to. 

So we are good then, you are an awesome poster here bro, don`t want to be on your bad side. 

[King Shizzo]

wrong, only the fundamentalist. the average Christians is no different then you.

What would you say if christianity was ever proven false?

[Archer77]

I always try to. 

So we are good then, you are an awesome poster here bro, don`t want to be on your bad side. 

You're an awesome poster too......no homo.  I don't want to get on your bad side either.  We're good. 

[anabolichalo]

What would you say if christianity was ever proven false?

it already has been proven false for the most part


doesnt matter


religion is not about facts

[King Shizzo]

All right! A nice stalemate between two fine posters. Thats how its done Getbig.