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Author Topic: do barbell curls and presses have an advantage over dumbell curls and presses?  (Read 1989 times)
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« on: August 30, 2013, 03:20:50 PM »

i can see the advantage of dumbels

* symmetrical development

* no need for douchebag spotters


so

what is the advantage of barbells?


and if there are none, why dont we abandon barbell curls and presses?


i even think lying skull crushers are better with dumbels
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« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 03:24:10 PM »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. not sure if im qualified to answer this question, i could never figure it out in all my years
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« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 03:28:35 PM »

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. not sure if im qualified to answer this question, i could never figure it out in all my years
an interesting question for sure.............


why do barbell bench when you can dumbel press

why do barbeell curl when you can dumbel curl

why do barbel military press when you can do with dumbel

why do easy bar skull crusher/french curl when you can do hammer grip dumbel skul crusher

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symmetrical development

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« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 03:29:24 PM »

You can use more total weight so barbell movements are better for "building mass". When it is time to refine & polish your physique, it is time for dumbbells
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 03:29:45 PM »

 Would like more people to answer. Coach? Vince? ES?
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 03:30:40 PM »

You can use more total weight so barbell movements are better for "building mass". When it is time to refine & polish your physique, it is time for dumbbells
you can use more weight because the kynetics neurological rocket surgerical factors

does that guarantee more muscle mass gains? unlikely.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 03:31:07 PM »

You can cheat more with a bar and people like to think they are stronger. If I could choose only one it would be dumbells.less stress on joints and greater range of motion.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 03:31:26 PM »

variety of reasons including
- ease in setting up exercise
- possible to go up in smaller increments (2.5 lb or less)
- variety in stimulation
- in some cases people respond differently (better) to barbell

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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2013, 03:32:36 PM »

ronnie coleman says a barbell balances itself out pretty much

dumbells require your own strength to balance them out

this is one of his secrets he said
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2013, 03:32:56 PM »

You can use more total weight so barbell movements are better for "building mass". When it is time to refine & polish your physique, it is time for dumbbells
agreed
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2013, 03:33:40 PM »

you can use more weight because the kynetics neurological rocket surgerical factors

does that guarantee more muscle mass gains? unlikely.

No need to stabilize the dumbbells, etc, means you can use 25% more weight or so.

Why shouldn't this lead to more muscles?
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2013, 03:34:06 PM »

i tried dumbel presses today

and could only handle 80% total weight of barbell press in same rep range
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2013, 04:02:36 PM »

I'd like to believe that dumbells are better because they give you a freer range of motion. And you recruit more surrounding muscles to control. But I don't really know for sure, I used to train with both before.
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2013, 04:04:20 PM »

barbell > dumbell, for size & strength.

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« Reply #14 on: August 30, 2013, 04:09:56 PM »

i tried dumbel presses today

and could only handle 80% total weight of barbell press in same rep range

New baby with health issues home for the first time from the hospital, father at the gym the next day doing presses.   That's not how it works....
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2013, 04:10:26 PM »

the main reason you can go heavier on barbells,is you don't have to stabilize and its easier to stay in a fixed position,and if you are noy using a spotter you gotta expend more energy flippin the dumbells for presses.
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2013, 04:11:01 PM »

barbell > dumbell, for size & strength.



dumbell >  barbell for strength and 99% mythical golden ratio physique
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2013, 04:41:12 PM »

Barbells allow you to use more weight as others have said.  I incorporate barbells occasionally for variety but I prefer dumbbells for my bicep training.  Chest and shoulders too.
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« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2013, 07:33:21 PM »

longer dumbbells are a bitch to balance while pressing, and getting a 160+ into position by yourself just sucks.

DBs are better if you have terrible shoulders like mine
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2013, 01:07:34 AM »

Dumbells work your stabilizers more. Far superior. Also better for avoiding injuries, especially when pressing.Since we naturally are dominant on one side of our bodies, there will always be an imbalance with barbells.
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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2013, 01:27:38 AM »

I do neither. No arm training, it's useless. Short men aren't supposed to have huge arms because then they look ludicrious, just take a look at 33386.
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2013, 02:20:34 AM »

New baby with health issues home for the first time from the hospital, father at the gym the next day doing presses.   That's not how it works....
SAME DAY

i went to work on my chest 2-3 hrs after baby got home

i dont give up on bbing


you blimps judge me and think looking 2 hrs at the tv with baby asleep and mom at home makes you better than a guy who uses this opportunity to hit the gym?

ha funny
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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2013, 02:22:34 AM »

I do neither. No arm training, it's useless. Short men aren't supposed to have huge arms because then they look ludicrious, just take a look at 33386.
and you wonder why you look like a bottom

all legs no upper body
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2013, 09:05:07 AM »

Already been said, but handling 140-150 lb. dumbbells can be a real pain as opposed to using heavy barbells for presses. And powerlifting/ bench competitions are barbell based, not dumbbell so may as well train like you will do the event if you are training for serious power. Dumbbells can be supersetted with barbells - do a pre-exhaust type of movement with a heavy barbell and then another movement with dumbbells - say heavy set of flat bench followed by relatively heavy incline dumbbell presses

If going for the overall "development" look dumbbells are hard to beat in my opinion. Mostly talking about pressing movements here from my experience, not much of a curls guy. A combination of the two is the ultimate way to go says me Smiley
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« Reply #24 on: August 31, 2013, 09:07:39 AM »

ronnie coleman says a barbell balances itself out pretty much

dumbells require your own strength to balance them out

this is one of his secrets he said


One of Ronnie's best secrets was his genetics and his response to hormones as well

 Grin
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