The offseason myth

[wes]

What ?   I thought WES  was natural

Naturally good looking! 

[Cleanest Natural]

sorry don't buy that's natty, you probably used before then stopped, talking about someone who has never used PEDS ever.

Every time you cycle say you gain 20lbs and when you go off you keep 5lb, do that over and over, you are going to have a massive advantage over someone who has never done AA's before.

Also were you ever 253lb @ 40% BF??

I told you I lost 80lb in 7 months.

I don't have a normal matabolism, I have a fucked up bordeline diabetic one probably.

I am not hating, I am actually giving you lots of props and praise but are you being realistic with my situation and background etc

the right pic is 100% clean .. left is waay before and obviously on something


you DON'T GET IT!


stop fucking yapping about your imaginary diabetes and your 80 lbs loss... here, to shut you up, here's my client who lost 135 lbs in 8 months. You remind me of him (I told him that I will stop helping him if he stops talking idiotic nonsense)

[galeniko]

 Thanks! I'm just happy if I can help in a small way even one person. There are a lot of smart guys on here. this board is at times insane, but prob the best when it comes to people that know their shit. Props to you guys!!

agreed.

i checke other boards.its filled with lies etc.

here can be the best place under the right crcumstances.

i find youre the number 1 undisputed imo.

no homo

[Cleanest Natural]

You think you are presenting some fucking new situation never seen before? Sometimes I think people like you deserve to be left alone ..

[galeniko]

I learned pretty much everything here. I was brainwashed with bb.com propaganda and used to organize my chicken and steak bins and measure out brown rice. I get sick thinking about all that dry gross food that I ate way too much of. Listen to Disgusted, sev and gal. They have logical, effective and REALISTIC advices and that's what makes it work.

Here's a picture of me off all gear just before starting gonadotropins. Endo wouldn't write the script until my test levels were where they should be (I was 0ng/dl lol). Please ignore the horrible beer in the background too, I promise I don't drink that shit normally. Sorry for the shitty editing lol

looking very good there bro and thanks fgor  the props glad  was of help

who cares about the few beers here and there as long ots not shitto81 levels where its drank as if its water

[monstermunch]

Just reaction to a new compound. Will go away in a couple weeks. NPP is quick acting.

So I shouldn't throw in an AI, just wait it out?

adex wont help with da,npp and tren sides.

What if its to do with estrogen though? The only side I have is that I feel like shit...which is normally associated with high E?

Cheers

[galeniko]

Personally,I do eat carbs as I just like them,but I always keep them very low.

I don`t see how some guys on the web,no matter how fucking big they are talk about eating 600-1000 grams of carbs ED......WTF

A surefire recipe to get fat in a hurry in my opinion.

Here`s a tip I tell almost anyone who wants to trim down, and that is to either train in a fasted state,or to train without any carbs in the system......starchy carbs that is.

From my experience,most people who say they need carbs while dieting just lack discipline.

Spiking your insulin levels to skyhigh proportions throughout the day and night will get you fat since insulin is a fat storage hormones.

A bit off topic kind of,but fatties who sit and eat sugary junk all day are constantly spiking their insulin levels and look where it gets them.

Carbs are NOT an essential macronutrient!!

yah the old "need" carbs excuse.

itll only worsed the feel of need when the bloodsugar comes back down crashing.

even if ppl use carbs smartly, its not gonna be the tasty sugars all day,hell no.

to burn fat, there must be the combo of low blood sugar levels and low serum insulin levels.period.it wont work otherwise.

now if one has bit carbs 6 times a day he will still burn fat in the time post bloodsugar spike.he will just take longer than the no carb guy.

as for the 600gramm carbs a day dieters, well, insulin needs and they train twice daily and do hours of cardio daily, so i see it could work.but many just lie,to be special.

[galeniko]

It's genetics

haha brutal pic.

btw see thats not even sooo much food for 1 day, but brutal calories.brutal.

and these ppl ask how can i lose weight haha.

her fat,swine-like face with the confident dumb grin i could kick it until my leg falls off

[wes]

yah the old "need" carbs excuse.

itll only worsed the feel of need when the bloodsugar comes back down crashing.

even if ppl use carbs smartly, its not gonna be the tasty sugars all day,hell no.

to burn fat, there must be the combo of low blood sugar levels and low serum insulin levels.period.it wont work otherwise.

now if one has bit carbs 6 times a day he will still burn fat in the time post bloodsugar spike.he will just take longer than the no carb guy.

as for the 600gramm carbs a day dieters, well, insulin needs and they train twice daily and do hours of cardio daily, so i see it could work.but many just lie,to be special.

QFT

[wes]

In the absense of carbs,fat is burnt as fuel.

May be just bro-science,but this is what I have always found to be true.

[galeniko]

So I shouldn't throw in an AI, just wait it out?

What if its to do with estrogen though? The only side I have is that I feel like shit...which is normally associated with high E?

Cheers

lol adex is certainly no make feel good supplement

i have no idea what it is, maybe just reaction to new compound.

if it dont go away switch back to what makes you feel good

[anabolichalo]

In the absense of carbs,fat is burnt as fuel.

May be just bro-science,but this is what I have always found to be true.

i believe in caloris in caloris out principle

[galeniko]

In the absense of carbs,fat is burnt as fuel.

May be just bro-science,but this is what I have always found to be true.

is bit more complicated than that,but yeah thats about how it works.

[wes]

is bit more complicated than that,but yeah thats about how it works.

You know me bro,I could get all scientific,but I choose to play dumb on here!

It`s working out well so far!  LOL 

[wes]

i believe in caloris in caloris out principle

it`s bit more complicated than that 

[anabolichalo]

it`s bit more complicated than that 

it may seem that way but it really isnt

[wes]

it may seem that way but it really isnt

No you`re correct,that is the basic tenet of losing weight/fat for sure.

[anabolichalo]

No you`re correct,that is the basic tenet of losing weight/fat for sure.

with all the obesity in the world today and all these diet progams, books and show are just smoke and mirrors

ppl need to stop shoveling food down their face if they wanna get thin

[galeniko]

it`s bit more complicated than that 

like when ukjeff(happy new year mate btw,and all the best, im sure youre reading lol)said just at less than you burn.

he didnt say eat whatever,he said he eats whatever he feels like.if he feels like having a bisquit he has one(one,lol).

then he posted his diet, it was basicaly mostly protein, fair amount of carbs,little fat.

but key was mostly protein.

i will never forget the small important hint "i eat whatever i want"

this doesnt mean anyone can eat whatever they want and get shredded, bc if i did that, id be eating icecream and chocoate all the time, they by far my fav foods

with all the obesity in the world today and all these diet progams, books and show are just smoke and mirrors

ppl need to stop shoveling food down their face if they wanna get thin

yes the non working out mere mortals just should eat less of whatevr theyre eating

theyll still be fucked, but better off.

[anabolichalo]

like when ukjeff(happy new year mate btw,and all the best, im sure youre reading lol)said just at less than you burn.

he didnt say eat whatever,he said he eats whatever he feels like.if he feels like having a bisquit he has one(one,lol).

then he posted his diet, it was basicaly mostly protein, fair amount of carbs,little fat.

but key was mostly protein.

i will never forget the small important hint "i eat whatever i want"

this doesnt mean anyone can eat whatever they want and get shredded, bc if i did that, id be eating icecream and chocoate all the time, they by far my fav foods
yes the non working out mere mortals just should eat less of whatevr theyre eating

theyll still be fucked, but better off.

once they are down to auswitch mode they can start from scratch and blow up right on legit kigs

[dustin]

looking very good there bro and thanks fgor  the props glad  was of help

who cares about the few beers here and there as long ots not shitto81 levels where its drank as if its water

I'm just embarrassed that it's Mexican beer lol

Once one figures out how to get lean it's an easy formula. It's just adherence that is tough. I have a big family that likes food so my key is to fast intermittently. I always give myself a buffer so if I want to pig out then it won't be a detriment.

Everyone has to find out what works for them. I finally figured it out.

[tom joad]

My best friend was doing something similar to you. Then, he did what I just told you to do. This is what happened to him..

you put your buddy on roids to turn him into that beast?

[Grape Ape]

you put your buddy on roids to turn him into that beast?

It was only a month not clean.  He's showing the results from getting lean first.

[Everhard]

So let me get this correct. You need to be below 10% bf before you start juicing?

[galeniko]

So let me get this correct. You need to be below 10% bf before you start juicing?

youll be much better off.


can start at 25% too, but youre better off when lean.


a fatso will have epic blood pressure issues when going on steroids, remember cswols purple face?

and all the food will go to all the wrong places.

if ones fatter than 10% and goes on gear, best to jump immediately on diet.if steroids must be.,

another things, the bodys fat cells produce estrogens.now if you add highly aromatizing steroids to that, its gonna be hard to lose fat.