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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #75 on: February 23, 2014, 10:59:58 AM »
for someone drugged/clean/benched heavy and in between sev has some flat ass pecs/no thickness from the side,he never posts side shots,no thickness..

No you're correct.

He has decent hip:shoulder structure so his front relaxed is his best pose. Not much size though for the amount of AAS. Not hating Sev either I like the guy.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #76 on: February 23, 2014, 11:04:13 AM »
good trolling by ta

starts his own thread

trying to keep relevant

i wonder if he can live of those old pics for another five years

he might need a few more gimmicks
T

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #77 on: February 23, 2014, 11:05:34 AM »
good trolling by ta

starts his own thread

trying to keep relevant

i wonder if he can live of those old pics for another five years

he might need a few more gimmicks

Problem is everyone knows he's a snidely twat now for revealing ESFs details, he wont recover.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #78 on: February 23, 2014, 11:07:02 AM »
Problem is everyone knows he's a snidely twat now for revealing ESFs details, he wont recover.

the mods are trying their best to cover it up

its a sad day for get big

when a spoiled little twink is calling the shots
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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #79 on: February 23, 2014, 11:09:30 AM »

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #80 on: February 23, 2014, 11:10:34 AM »
Whats your height and weight there TA?
Guess

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #81 on: February 23, 2014, 11:15:40 AM »
Guess

5'11 180-185 10% BF. Thats where most natties max out.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #82 on: February 23, 2014, 11:19:14 AM »
5'11 180-185 10% BF. Thats where most natties max out.
You win the Prize!  Pretty close.  185-188 there at 5`11-6 foot

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #83 on: February 23, 2014, 11:21:19 AM »
You win the Prize!  Pretty close.  185-188 there at 5`11-6 foot
bf???he pegged you at 10,i d say below more than 10.. delts are sliced.arms show good detail..

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #84 on: February 23, 2014, 11:21:23 AM »
You win the Prize!  Pretty close.  185-188 there at 5`11-6 foot
Thats not 24.4 on the scale.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #85 on: February 23, 2014, 11:22:20 AM »
Thats not 24.4 on the scale.
Exactly.  I have made improvements since then according to this scale which currently puts me at 24.4.  Although I take this thing with a grain of salt.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #86 on: February 23, 2014, 11:22:54 AM »
bf???he pegged you at 10,i d say below more than 10.. delts are sliced.arms show good detail..
Yah, I was probably lower, who knows really.  I didn`t do a bod pod so it would be speculation.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #87 on: February 23, 2014, 11:23:28 AM »
Exactly.  I have made improvements since then according to this scale which currently puts me at 24.4.  Although I take this thing with a grain of salt handful of DBol.

fixed

So what you at now BF% wise?

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #88 on: February 23, 2014, 12:35:52 PM »
I mean one thing we totally agree on is that if I felt there was anyway I could achieve a semi half decent physique without drugs then I would want to do that for sure as I am not looking for any short cuts and wouldn't want to compromise my long term health!

Just I don't think its possible for me with shit genetics to kinda achieve what you have TA or come close to it even.

Regardless of the drug question you should be very proud of yourself for having an awesome physique, there is certainly no taking that away from you.

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You are not seeing yourself correctly and are therefore not judging accordingly.  Those two pictures you posted look really good.  If I were you, I would just lay off the Keto diets and quick fix diets and just go with a moderate approach. 2000-2300 calories, Protein around 100-150 and lift 4-6 days a week.

You have a good physique and once you lean down further, it will be that much more impressive I think.  You are being way too hard on yourself and are not seeing the same pics that I see.  Seriously, I do mean this-don`t go down the road of steroids until you have at least gave it your best shot this time.  Its not worth it.  Once you get leaner, people are going to think you are on steroids and huge anyways.

What would be your goal with steroids?

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #89 on: February 23, 2014, 12:40:44 PM »


I don't throw money down the toilet, I invest in people, there is a difference.

I have my own thoughts on this but this is going to be way too political and controversial legally and I don't want to end up like Jason Blaha and besides my girlfriend seems to like you and think you are natural so it's an awkward position to be in.

If you are genuinely natural then please accept my sincere apologies and I would have nothing but respect and admiration for you. However you must also accept that you would be the exception to the rule and that 1 in a million.

If you accept this to be the case then you must also accept that it would be highly inappropriate for you to give training and nutritional advice to individuals who are not as genetically gifted as you (off course assuming your are lifetime natty etc)

Having said that you must accept that this industry is rife with people who claim natural who lie through their teeth for monetary reasons.

If Lance Armstrong got away with it for as long as he did and if Kevin Leverone can pass a lie detector test (in his transformation video) I don't think you will have much trouble either quite frankly but that's not saying much in my book.

If I was going to go on a crusade to prove someone was not a lifetime natty and they agreed it would involve highly sophisticated lie detector tests (not the 150 dollar jobs, hell even my girlfriend can pass those) but it would most definitely involve random drug testing with very specific terms attached to it.

Specifically you would have to have to agree to give random samples at any given point in time requested in the next 12 months front of  an adjudicator and if you refused to do so on any more than 3 occasions over say a year you would be disqualified from the process and forfeit terms of the agreement.

Again not something I care to get involved in an attempt to discredit you because either way its a lose lose situation for everybody involved.

Best of luck in whatever you do.






Really? One in a million genetics? You better stick to poker because you know dick about training, juice, and nutrition

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2014, 12:48:19 PM »
Really? One in a million genetics? You better stick to poker because you know dick about training, juice, and nutrition
Lol, Adonis looks like a fucking praying mantis FFS.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2014, 01:43:57 PM »

No serious if natural he looks phenomenal for a natty.

No easy feat whatsoever to achieve a physique like that natty, and yes we are talking elite/exceptional genetics.



All these guys are natty as well.
http://musclemania.com/#

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2014, 01:59:26 PM »
Honestly beyond caring who is or is not natty anymore, it's all irrelevant to me anyway, but I take your point too.
Exactly, it doesn't matter, its just people keep ramming natty down your throat even when it isn't required.
Who gives a fuck anyway.


PS, feel free to exchange the word 'natty' with 'cock' at any time.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2014, 02:00:54 PM »
we have a lot of fake naturals here

can you name some

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2014, 02:12:52 PM »
i dont want to go into it

my friend you are well trusted regarding the steroid situation on here

i like your thought process on this delicate matter
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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2014, 02:25:10 PM »
He seems to feign ignorance about steroids and related subjects. Strange for someone strongly involved in the bodybuilding lifestyle for the past several years.

Many naturals who are really into bodybuilding would have done research on steroids, what types, how to use, the dangers, etc out of pure interest since steroids are a major part of bodybuilding.

Maybe I have the wrong impression of him based on his postings on the boardings.


This. And the rest of the post too. Spot on.

No one spends this much time invested in thong-n-drugs bodybuilding and doesn't look up shit about AAS. Everyone, even the self-proclaimed natties will have tried some dbol or something at one point. And if they genuinely haven't, I don't know why they fuck they obsess over lifting weights if they're just going to stay natty.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2014, 02:55:14 PM »
This. And the rest of the post too. Spot on.

No one spends this much time invested in thong-n-drugs bodybuilding and doesn't look up shit about AAS. Everyone, even the self-proclaimed natties will have tried some dbol or something at one point. And if they genuinely haven't, I don't know why they fuck they obsess over lifting weights if they're just going to stay natty.
You are wrong.  What do you mean by you don`t know why someone would obsess over weights if they are going to stay natural?  That is all we have got.  That and what we eat, so of course we have to obsess a bit over it.  You take the "easy" way.  I get that and that is your choice.  (I personally think its more difficult using those drugs, so many variables not to mention your health at continual risk).

I know bits and pieces from the main board here, but thats about it.  I would be scared shitless to even try it looking at all the horror stories on the main board.  I could only imagine whats on the steroid board.  It probably reads like one big medical disaster.

The best thing I ever did was to never start them I think.  Once you start them, it seems you are fucked for life and have to either use them for the duration of your life (or however long you plan on lifting, so for me it would be for life), or you just end up a broken wreck worse off then when you were natural.

Fuck that.  Its not worth it.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2014, 02:56:52 PM »
This. And the rest of the post too. Spot on.

No one spends this much time invested in thong-n-drugs bodybuilding and doesn't look up shit about AAS. Everyone, even the self-proclaimed natties will have tried some dbol or something at one point. And if they genuinely haven't, I don't know why they fuck they obsess over lifting weights if they're just going to stay natty.
There is a such thing as bodybuilding without drugs you know.  They even hold competitions and I am not talking about Musclemania either.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2014, 03:06:27 PM »
Bodybuilding in a natural context is so narrow. Eat hard, lift hard, get a little bigger, then that's it. That's all natural bodybuilding is.

BODYBUILDING, enhanced bodybuilding or whatever you want to call it is much more immerse. A guy running a cycle may "be taking the easy way" but he's going to see a much greater contrast in that timespan than a natural lifter will in their entire lifetime. This is why I choose to juice.

It's funny, because the thing that got me into supplements and PEDs was creatine. I heard my younger brother was taking "creatine steroids" so I dug out all of the medical textbooks my mom had and the ones I could get from the library. I learned about muscular hypertrophy and found stuff about creatine, the krebs cycle and even sex steroids. I realized that all juice is, is just exogenous hormones. And from talking with guys like Bill Llewellyn who looked at things a little more closely but objectively (as most juicers are trying to justify their use) I really think I started out with a good perspective. And then I eventually started lifting to test these theories and moved onto using supplements and juice once I acquired enough experience with lifting and observing changes in response to diet, training and supplementation.

I just can't fathom lifting without having taken something. I only pin usually twice per week and don't take any other supplements. But the experience from using all that shit really helped to guide the way I train now. I will probably never juice big time and will only do a couple smaller blasts each year as I like my physique right now. But I just can't imagine lifting without having those experiences under my belt. There's just so little that happens in natural bodybuilding. It's so boring and there are so few variables. I guess that's what perplexes me about people who genuinely do not use anything.

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Re: True Adonis is a lifetime natural?
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2014, 03:34:15 PM »
I'm sorry Sev. If you put TA's best pics side by side with your best pics HE WINS.  :-\

Natty or not (I still think he's natty).......he has a more stellar physique than you.

Go ahead and post up more pics if it will make you feel better. Hopefully they are good enough to trump TA......but so far they have not.