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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2006, 12:20:18 AM »
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what do u mean He been ALLOWED to use drugs.!!! by whom? and who cares what he dose in his offseason? he came to the show clean? if yes then he is clean..



So if he uses Gear in the off season but comes to the show clean that makes it all ok--- that means he is a Natural Athlete, is that what you are saying ???

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2006, 01:45:39 AM »

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 what i mean is i dont give a Sh-- of what he is doing or any one doing in his off-season.!! how would u know if he is useing or not??!!  by test.. right?  if he or i passed dose it make u happy NO for sure so if u do a test any time in the year for me and i pass would u be happy and belive me NO so the only thing i can say GET LOST and if u r mad coz i am natural then so be it, but if u aske me i will say i am NATURAL and i know by the time u read that word u want to kill me but as i said u have to deal with it man :-*.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2006, 03:29:31 AM »
Your a Physco Retard as well as a Lying Cheat---- chezz nice combination big fella , your mum must be really proud of you, not to mention your fellow competitors whom are "honestly natural" whom have just read your posts and thought , "That bastard he bet me by lying and competting as a natural in a natural show" --- phew what a phony.

Oh well I can tell your anger is not really directed at me but at your self for having to lie your way around your Bodybuilding .

For all those whom compete as natural and are natural I applaud you, to those whom don't it must feel good to win a Plastic Trophy via lying and cheating.

Other than that MM-Pro(what ever that means)I dont give a shit either !! :D

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2006, 04:09:08 AM »
Your a Physco Retard as well as a Lying Cheat---- chezz nice combination big fella , your mum must be really proud of you, not to mention your fellow competitors whom are "honestly natural" whom have just read your posts and thought , "That bastard he bet me by lying and competting as a natural in a natural show" --- phew what a phony.

Oh well I can tell your anger is not really directed at me but at your self for having to lie your way around your Bodybuilding .

For all those whom compete as natural and are natural I applaud you, to those whom don't it must feel good to win a Plastic Trophy via lying and cheating.

Other than that MM-Pro(what ever that means)I dont give a shit either !! :D

Well said Marc. Although I do get the feeling that this is perhaps a gimmick acount. Any how if you want to compete as a pro, compete in a non tested event against other guys who are using. Sure you feel like a big fish in a little pond now, go and try yourself against some other big fish. Otherwise what is the point. Of course a guy who has done cycles will look better than a life time natural who has not.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2006, 04:10:33 AM »
Your a Physco Retard as well as a Lying Cheat---- chezz nice combination big fella , your mum must be really proud of you, not to mention your fellow competitors whom are "honestly natural" whom have just read your posts and thought , "That bastard he bet me by lying and competting as a natural in a natural show" --- phew what a phony.

Oh well I can tell your anger is not really directed at me but at your self for having to lie your way around your Bodybuilding .

For all those whom compete as natural and are natural I applaud you, to those whom don't it must feel good to win a Plastic Trophy via lying and cheating.

Other than that MM-Pro(what ever that means)I dont give a shit either !! :D
so true.MM PRO why u are on here proclaming to be natural and proud is beyond me.
i remember seeing a past thread where your guru alamani wrote how great he was being able to get u to beat the drug test.
stop being a bitch do some "non natural" shows and see if you win them..........i doubt it. ;D

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #30 on: January 23, 2006, 09:24:25 AM »
tested and not tested … and that is it … there is a test which follows the WADA code and they are the toughest … if u c the list u will be amazed that everything is detectable (except GH and insulin) but when u c the condition of the guys u will be amazed how they pass the test and look like this

The world amateur championship was tested … and take a look at the pix and the results to c the guys who were caught on the test.

http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/officialresults_shanghai2005.pdf
http://www.ifbb.com/contestresults/shanghai2005.htm

The tests can minimize the use of drugs but cannot illuminate it … like all the other sports …

So who ever completes have to keep that in mind … cause once he steps on stage there is no mercy and no one will say this guy is on or off .. They’ll just say he looks good or he looks like shit.

jeffrey. U name a natural show and sami will do it … is there even any … the best u can get is a tested show and he did it. 

HRDCOR & tony b I think u guys are jelous or out of shape guys who just envy every successful BBer just cause he is better than u … it is good to respect others and live with the things as they are … do u think u can change anything by being haters.  U can be hated back and that is it … and try not to get involved thing u don’t know anything about it … I mean what do u guys know about how a show is done or how judging goes … do u think being natural or not really effects the judging … the judging is dons and who ever passes the test keeps his placing and who ever doesn’t looses …

I just feel sorry for u guys who don’t know what u are talking about

And just for the record … sami is natural and can be tested anytime … so if u guys can collect the money for the test … he will be more than happy to do it.

“fellow competitors whom are "honestly natural" … damn u really believe that … u are living in the twilight zone … his fellow competitors know everything and lets leave the judging to them


As for hitting the pro rank in the IFBB as I believe u meant … well u just got to wait and c … even better y don’t u read Melvin Anthony’s comment on Sami in the MD ( last month I think or the month b4 that)

P.S. MM pro means Muscle Mania Pro

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2006, 09:53:45 AM »
what i wanna know is this... in tested shows how do people who take steroids pass? for example doesn't the arnold classic test? Cutler and all those guys must pass.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2006, 10:04:30 AM »
what i wanna know is this... in tested shows how do people who take steroids pass? for example doesn't the arnold classic test? Cutler and all those guys must pass.

IFBB pre shows are not tested ... so they are not clean

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2006, 10:08:30 AM »
if they're not tested what's up with all the supposed rules.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2006, 10:26:49 AM »
if they're not tested what's up with all the supposed rules.

I think u r mixing the IFBB world amateur championship and the pro shows.  The pro shows have a lot of rules but testing is not one of them … on the other hand the amateurs shows are tested and who fails gets disqualified

Mr. Olympia was testing for diuretics only until 2001 … then they stopped because of legal issue.



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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2006, 10:59:46 AM »
so those guys who get their pro cards at national shows are tested?

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2006, 12:07:42 PM »
so those guys who get their pro cards at national shows are tested?

No

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2006, 12:24:37 PM »

  THE GAME

  THANX  ALIAMINI for the backup ... you always there as usual... give me a call when u r back in town so we can work on the new plan, its time to PISS some others OFF by doing things NATURALY and SMARTLY ;D

 with Melvin giving me the MASK to use it in my posing when i won the PRO


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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2006, 01:33:17 PM »
Aliamini , you are starting to beleive in your own distruths as is MM-pro, MM-pro has all but admitted he uses gear but managed to pass the tests !!! Now you come on and say he is natural , which makes you look like his ground worshiping boy whom is prepared to lie for him as well !!!

No matter which way you wish to try and sugar coat the fact, the hard truth is it is cheating !!!

If you knowingly enter a Natural Show, and have been useing steriods/hormaonal additives to enhance your body prior to such a event , then I am afraid you are a CHEAT, thus creating a unevening playing field for those whom are genuine about there Natural stance.

As a IFBB PRO (for which I am one) I compete on a more even playing field than that of MM-pros Muscle manias win, you see as a Pro I cant complain that some one bet me because they took 500mg more suztanon than I , as we all have the same oppertunity as the guy next me ,but in Mm-pro case there are liers and cheaters right down the line ---- I would rather be genuine thank you !!!

Hence the word Natural is a scam !!!

No disrespect to those who are geniune in there natural stance !!

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2006, 07:10:29 PM »
Aliamini , you are starting to beleive in your own distruths as is MM-pro, MM-pro has all but admitted he uses gear but managed to pass the tests !!! Now you come on and say he is natural , which makes you look like his ground worshiping boy whom is prepared to lie for him as well !!!

No matter which way you wish to try and sugar coat the fact, the hard truth is it is cheating !!!

If you knowingly enter a Natural Show, and have been useing steriods/hormaonal additives to enhance your body prior to such a event , then I am afraid you are a CHEAT, thus creating a unevening playing field for those whom are genuine about there Natural stance.

As a IFBB PRO (for which I am one) I compete on a more even playing field than that of MM-pros Muscle manias win, you see as a Pro I cant complain that some one bet me because they took 500mg more suztanon than I , as we all have the same oppertunity as the guy next me ,but in Mm-pro case there are liers and cheaters right down the line ---- I would rather be genuine thank you !!!

Hence the word Natural is a scam !!!

No disrespect to those who are geniune in there natural stance !!

Well said Marc

"the Game" is a muscle schmoe. Why would me being jealous of someone effect my moral stance on an issue. There is no way I could be jealous of someone who lies and cheats to the extent you do. You enter a natural show, you use gear, you cheat the drug test, and then think you have achieved something significant. You are fucking delusional if you believe that all this is fine.

Stop hanging off these guys nuts and actual do something worthwhile in your life. You are able to cheat a drug test so these guys win a $5 trophy against people who are truly natural. Seriously


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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2006, 07:18:01 PM »
Well you look great at any rate.  I am sure you worked very hard and you deserve all the positive recognition you get.  Good luck with your upcoming training and shows.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2006, 10:10:09 PM »
all the members of "team the game"

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2006, 10:12:04 PM »
BigAlski

 Well... thanx Alski for the words


tony b

 for sure u r sick...! ;D

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  PRO my ass..!!!  if u have a problem to be like me Naturally then say it clear... you and the dumb Tony sound to me very upset.. chill out plz  8)  watch out for TEAM THE GAME in 2006 and try to remember these names coz u will hear alot of news about them:
1- ALI TABRIZI
2-TARIQ ALSOTOHI
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4-HASSAN SALEH
5-ARAFAT

  NOW its 5 and there r more on the way.. GUESS what they r even better than me and NATRUAL so by the time u see the pix of any of them  will go nuts ;D well this is the game all about....

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2006, 11:53:35 PM »
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Hey buddy, don't waste your breath.. this aliamini guy already inferred that the dude was not natural in threads on the G&O Board.  He was bragging about getting him to pass the test earlier on and as usual when directly challenged these guys clam up and start claiming they are 100% natural. 

What a load of crap.. natural.. lolzors.





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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #44 on: January 24, 2006, 12:57:42 AM »
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 do u understand english ???  incase u didnt read it well here what ALIAMINI said in G&O replying on 240 u dumb ass

Who said anything about cheating … people ask and I answered … what conclusions they reach is not my problem … plus everybody talks about everybody on this board … u don’t u guys talk about Jay Cutler when he got caught on Diuretics in 2001 … files a case and the whole test got cancelled … meaning he cheated over all the guys who competed … u odnt call that cheating cause he is 4 time Mr. O runner-up … but u call my athletes cheats cause bunch of no good, BBer critic wanna be say so they are considered as Cheats

Well the thing I am not is a cheat … I told all of u the truth of what is going on … I don’t put my ego ahead of everything … I tell u what is goin on in the sport … so instead of being thankful and learn what u don’t know … u guys are bothered about the judges and the official who visit the board … since when did that make any difference … u think they don’t know …

I hope the judges make it to the boards and read what is going on … cause from the looks of the judges I saw in IFBB world amateur championship … some of them couldn’t even speak English.  So how in hell can they keep up with the evolution of the sport
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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #45 on: January 24, 2006, 03:50:36 AM »
hey sami,it's that time............

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2006, 05:10:21 AM »

jaguarenterprises

yeah it is toooo long but i got no options, and its worth it.... REALLY thanx for the advice i shall work on it when i am heading Miami this june and i shall VISIT ur web site today....




<LOL> Sami, I wasn't asking you to visit, I was asking if you had already visited it?
Someone from Bahrain has been going all throughout my website. I was puzzled because I've been wondering how on earth did someone in Bahrain find my site, so when you mentioned you are from there, I thought perhaps it had been you.

Wow, ...VERY impressive physique! Your hard work definitely shows!
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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2006, 05:17:39 AM »
Rocket

 do u understand english ???  incase u didnt read it well here what ALIAMINI said in G&O replying on 240 u dumb ass

Who said anything about cheating … people ask and I answered … what conclusions they reach is not my problem … plus everybody talks about everybody on this board … u don’t u guys talk about Jay Cutler when he got caught on Diuretics in 2001 … files a case and the whole test got cancelled … meaning he cheated over all the guys who competed … u odnt call that cheating cause he is 4 time Mr. O runner-up … but u call my athletes cheats cause bunch of no good, BBer critic wanna be say so they are considered as Cheats

Well the thing I am not is a cheat … I told all of u the truth of what is going on … I don’t put my ego ahead of everything … I tell u what is goin on in the sport … so instead of being thankful and learn what u don’t know … u guys are bothered about the judges and the official who visit the board … since when did that make any difference … u think they don’t know …

I hope the judges make it to the boards and read what is going on … cause from the looks of the judges I saw in IFBB world amateur championship … some of them couldn’t even speak English.  So how in hell can they keep up with the evolution of the sport


He said a lot of things in a lot of posts and that post is  not what I'm talking about.

I understand english perfectly.  Atleast enough to point out that team "the game" makes no sense and is broken english.

Your friend was very coy and cocky at one stage on the G&O board.

There is no way you are natural, what a load of bullshit.

That is all.

Oh and HRDCOR is a pro.

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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2006, 05:27:27 AM »
Hah, I just had to continue this,  sometimes going back through the past posts is just too funny.

"Cheat their way … well thank you … that’s compliment to me … how to manipulate your way around the doping test is an art of science and that is what I did and I am happy and proud … once you get in my shoes you will know what I mean … but that is too much for you to handle I guess"

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=44134.msg717025#msg717025

"I never said I helped them cheat … I helped them play THE GAME the way it should be … and I don’t like to bullshit like other Natural claimed BBers … the samples were taken and test was done so what more do you want.

The IFBB world Amateur championship is a tested show … and do you think they are all drug free … no they know their way around the test … the WADA has stated several times that they can’t do anything about and that is the best way things can go … so do u expect me to play it differently. "


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=44134.msg718180#msg718180


"Has anyone tried trenbolone pills 25mg ??

How long does it saty detectable in the system??"


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=43276.msg698192#msg698192

"This is a vet Trenbolon + masteron from Australia … I have tried it … worked fine but don’t know if it is as it is mentioned or not.

What bothers me is how did they dissolve 75mg tren + 100 mg masteron in 1 ml.  if it is either of thenm I am happy … I just hope it is not deca … so if anyone has experience on this … shoot"


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=43504.msg703369#msg703369



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Re: How to control the Water Retention while flying?!
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2006, 05:41:21 AM »
jaguarenterprises

   thanx again.. it was not me who was visiting ur web site but i did after u told me :D

rocket

  i really dont care what others say or might say man.. and i didnt disrespact u or HRDCOR.. IF he is a PRO he wouldnt say all that....  and if u got any problem with ALIAMINI u can face him not me.. am here to come up with some info for my next long trip show and how to deal with water intake no to face fighters!!  and YES i am Natural now and for the whole year i didnt use any thing coz i was tested befor the show 3 moths and the date of the arrival and after the pre-judging and as i said i dont want to talk about what i did in my PAST but i am free Drugs..... plus i have been training for 14 years.
 
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