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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2014, 08:24:09 PM »
I'm the only college graduate in my circle of friends and they all out earn me and are all intelligent folks.   

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2014, 09:09:50 PM »
I'm the only college graduate in my circle of friends and they all out earn me and are all intelligent folks.   

I am not going to make them due to the respect I hold for you MOS but you've left yourself wide open to a variety of attacks here.

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #52 on: October 10, 2014, 09:31:09 PM »
Really?  Bill Gates dropped out of Harvard and never got his degree. Real failure 'eh. ::)

I have a masters and doctorate and I'm replying to your post on getbig.
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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #53 on: October 10, 2014, 09:51:16 PM »
Depends on what you got a degree in.
In the UK, any moron can go to university and get a degree in some pointless subject.

Spoken like someone who never qualified to go to University.  Because is is blatantly untrue.  Unless you are talking about some sort of "community college," which is NOT a University.
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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2014, 03:40:55 AM »
Spoken like someone who never qualified to go to University.  Because is is blatantly untrue.  Unless you are talking about some sort of "community college," which is NOT a University.

No, there's bullshit degrees to be had. Even at bricks and mortar universities.
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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2014, 03:48:32 AM »
i have a bachelor's degree of science in electrical engineering and can't get a job in my country so i work as a personal trainer lol

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2014, 04:03:02 AM »
i have a bachelor's degree of science in electrical engineering and can't get a job in my country so i work as a personal trainer lol

In electrical engineering it's almost mandatory to have a MSc. You won't get anywhere with a BSc in Electrical Engineering since you don't have any specialisation, you have barely scratched the surface of electrophysics.
With a BSc you will have the bare minimum of knowledge in the major subjects such as fourier analysis, signal theory, control theory, electrodynamics. You are basically competing against MSc students, and in most cases they will be chosen above BSc students due to their (in general) deeper understanding of electrical engineering topics.

Especially within engineering it's very important to have a specialisation, and 3 years of university studies will not provide that (unless you are some sort of wunderkind á la Nikola Tesla).

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2014, 04:10:02 AM »
Some people can think, and some people cant!

Degree let non thinkting people start to think a little bit more bcz they are aorund some thinking people who light up their brain.

The problem with degree people is that many of them have a very big trust in "science" and "fact" everything can be discussed! Nothing is easy!

The olde ru get the more shit u can talk because your audicene is young and they think u know...something...that u actually dont...know nothing about. LIfe is strange! Very strange! Knowledge is very strange to! INtellicence is very strange to! All thinking often end in one conclusion with is: I DONT KNOW!

As soon as philosofy will take a bigger part in science, everything will be fucked up!

Poeple who live now always think they are more clever than people who lived THEN! Its a human thing I think!

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2014, 04:32:08 AM »
Going to a college / university is overrated..
Most kids coming out of school can't find a damn job and are in debt  :-\
Unless your studying to be a doctor / medical field, lawyer, or something in engineering..
It's not worth it.....

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2014, 04:44:10 AM »
Maybe the problem is that ""BIG" AL MCKECHNIE"'s "firm" only attracts low-intelligence applicants.

We certainly attract them LOL.  Don't hire them though.
I'm pleased to say my 3 directors are all members of the ImechE or IET (chartered engineers) and my finance man is a fellow of the CIMA.
In other words, if you want to be in senior management in my firm you are either a chartered member of your professional body or it's hasta la vista baby. Bsc, Msc phd, are all good but only the starting point, I don't consider you qualified until you are a chartered member of a professional body.

And the laugh is, I don't have any professional qualifications , all I have is ownership of the capital. Poor dumb me.
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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2014, 04:58:12 AM »
The college degree of today is like the high school degree when I was young. Employers who hire just want to see it because they have one. There's one rent a car company in the US whose name escapes me that won't hire you unless you have one. Imagine essentially being a cashier renting out cars needing a degree?

If you get a degree make sure it says you are employable. Chemical engineering, nursing, teaching or something else that says you have a trade. Don't graduate in debt with no prospect of a job. A student loan is the only loan that isn't forgivable in bankruptcy. No matter how much it compounds in interest due to late payment you will have that debt forever.

I find the people who are making serious money are in the trades. Collision repair, pizza shop owner, counter top guys, carpenters, plumbers and the like. An example of this is my barber who is 30 years old charges $15 a hair cut and then gets tipped $2 to $5 dollars. His shop is always packed because he knows all the current cuts and he's good. He cuts while I'm there about 5 hair cuts an hour. Sometimes more and sometimes less. He has said on more than one occasion he makes more than every person he went to high school with who has a college degree Another young man I know has a kitchen counter top business. He puts in granite and fancy kitchen counter tops. He lives in an incredible house with impressive cars.

I believe in education but it also warps minds in that almost every professor has never lived in the real world. The academic world is a breeding ground for the disease of liberalism. A guy who went to grade school, high school, 5 to 7 years of college and now teaches has a warped view point and influences young dopey kids. What a gig though. 9 months of work teaching two classes a week for  $100K plus. The colleges can afford to pay these professors the best. They will have you just take out another loan so they can spread the wealth to themselves.

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2014, 05:30:28 AM »
In electrical engineering it's almost mandatory to have a MSc. You won't get anywhere with a BSc in Electrical Engineering since you don't have any specialisation, you have barely scratched the surface of electrophysics.
With a BSc you will have the bare minimum of knowledge in the major subjects such as fourier analysis, signal theory, control theory, electrodynamics. You are basically competing against MSc students, and in most cases they will be chosen above BSc students due to their (in general) deeper understanding of electrical engineering topics.

Especially within engineering it's very important to have a specialisation, and 3 years of university studies will not provide that (unless you are some sort of wunderkind á la Nikola Tesla).


4 and a half years, specialized in energetics, the university is in middle europe

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2014, 05:32:36 AM »
Assentio  :)

Kreator - are you German/in Germany?

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2014, 05:37:05 AM »

4 and a half years, specialized in energetics, the university is in middle europe

Then it sounds like you have an "Engineering Diploma" or w/e it's called over there, it's basically a MSc not a BSc. Am I correct in this assumption?


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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2014, 05:53:52 AM »
Then it sounds like you have an "Engineering Diploma" or w/e it's called over there, it's basically a MSc not a BSc. Am I correct in this assumption?



we call it a diploma yes, i thought it was considered a bachelor's, not sure

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2014, 06:03:43 AM »
Some people's brain has to be told what to do. Teacher shows how to do an equation, person does it, makes straight A's. Then when they need to think independently or logically or with a real world application they can't. We all know that person who made high grades in the classroom but still can't drive for shit.

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2014, 06:08:27 AM »
we call it a diploma yes, i thought it was considered a bachelor's, not sure

No it's basically a Master's and it's treated as such in other European countries, there are plenty of countries who still use the diploma system. Germany, Sweden and Finland are those that I can recall at the moment.

A shame you can't find a job, it's an attractive degree and I hope you find something. You could always switch to mathematical finance, there are plenty of people with engineering backgrounds (such as electrical) that I know of.

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2014, 06:13:06 AM »
I haven't hear a single person mention the most important skill set to have for FAST success.

Sales.

If you are a good salesman then the sky is the limit for your earning. 


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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2014, 07:18:41 AM »
No it's basically a Master's and it's treated as such in other European countries, there are plenty of countries who still use the diploma system. Germany, Sweden and Finland are those that I can recall at the moment.

A shame you can't find a job, it's an attractive degree and I hope you find something. You could always switch to mathematical finance, there are plenty of people with engineering backgrounds (such as electrical) that I know of.

if i had graduated some 2,3 years earlier getting a job in this field woudn't have been an issue, but since the so called ''crissis'' struck the economy things have gone downhill. I briefly worked in a small company that designed and installed roof mounted PV systems though but the company ran out of financial resources so i got laid off. Personal training can be very lucrative if u know how to sell urself and have the knowledge, a solid physique helps as well. I miss the ''thinking'' part, calculating etc., sometimes it feels like my brain is deteriorating lol

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2014, 08:46:58 AM »
I haven't hear a single person mention the most important skill set to have for FAST success.

Sales.

If you are a good salesman then the sky is the limit for your earning. 



you drive a hunday, i drive an 80,000 $ bmw, that's who i am


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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2014, 09:08:24 AM »
you drive a hunday, i drive an 80,000 $ bmw, that's who i am


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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2014, 09:37:20 AM »
I don't have a degree and my shelves are as well stacked as anyone's...

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2014, 09:43:49 AM »
without a degree it takes far more effort to get a respectable job in the first place and you will usually not get a salary even close to engineers degree with post graduate in business for example


best way is to be a cheap person and try make the best of your salary ???


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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2014, 09:49:31 AM »
The UK? Let's get serious. The UK went under decades ago.

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Re: People who don't earn a university degree
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2014, 10:53:38 AM »
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