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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #100 on: December 03, 2014, 07:31:06 AM »
I think I made my point!  ::) I like how you posted the worst shots of him you could find, yet he was still up there with the top 5. Get it together Parker.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #101 on: December 03, 2014, 07:33:50 AM »
No, he didn't.....at least, not against the competition he faced at the time. He should have competed after Arnold retired, if the Olympia were that important to him. But, getting that Hulk role was too much to pass up and ultimately ended up being the smart move for him.

Agreed

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #102 on: December 03, 2014, 07:35:31 AM »
SONNY COULD BE THE 90'S VERSION OF TONEY FREEMAN XMAN,,,

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #103 on: December 03, 2014, 07:43:36 AM »
07 Cutler is the worst bodybuilding decision in history. Period. Not just Olympia history, but bodybuilding history. He was just a soft, bloated mess. He shouldn't have even been in the top ten, let alone the winner.

Go back and look at the pics from Franco winning the 1981 Olympia and you will clearly see, it is the worst decision, by far.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #104 on: December 03, 2014, 08:28:54 AM »
SONNY COULD BE THE 90'S VERSION OF TONEY FREEMAN XMAN,,,

I have always been a big fan of the X-man.....is he still competing?...out of all the pro's I would have liked to have had his physique

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #105 on: December 03, 2014, 08:56:40 AM »
I have always been a big fan of the X-man.....is he still competing?...out of all the pro's I would have liked to have had his physique
YES..

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #106 on: December 03, 2014, 09:07:02 AM »
First of all, Sonny is hardly getting killed in that shot. How you forget he is in the picture with at the time the two best BB's of that time. So you disproved your own point!!! C'mon man, you have to be brighter. No flow? No X frame? What are you on? And this was before the word X frame was even being used, and sorry but Haney could not get better legs or he would have. His calves were pathetic. You have to remember that these contest pics posted were at the end of Haney's era. He got out because Dorian, and even Sonny were starting to crush him. It was the beginning of a new era. When you actually had to have legs! Someone posted earlier on this thread something about Sonny which was correct having known him. It was that he was Samoan, his English was not the best, he rarely spoke at all!!! Very quiet. Even his best friends would say this. The weider machine was not going to have him as a front runner for Mr O. Also, every single person I mentioned in my posts, I trained right next to, with, saw them up close, and talked with them. So my perspective might be a little different than yours. Another example: Arron Baker! Forgot to mention him. Totally screwed at his prime. I can tell you for a fact that seeing him in the gym, that he looked f-n amazing! If you saw him, you would want that physique any day! Outstanding proportions as well. Back then, it was the Weider machine all the way. He called the shots and had the judges do so also. Peace. Ah,... Lousy taper? You are most definitely a noob, or an Iron Age dude, who won't recognize anything post 93. Get your head out of your ass!😳

Your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

An era where you actually had to have legs? I'm sorry! How many times did Haney beat Tom Platz again?

And if this were about race, why do the two men with the most Sandows just happen to be black? In fact, don't we have 5 black Mr. O winners, including the current champion?

Schmidt was nowhere near Haney's level, not even in true contention for the title. He can't get past guys much smaller than he was (Ray, Labrada).

Haney retired because there was nothing else for him to do. The last conquest was breaking Schwarzenegger's record. Once he did that, it was time to take his ball and go home.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #107 on: December 03, 2014, 09:09:15 AM »
Your post doesn't make a lot of sense.

An era where you actually had to have legs? I'm sorry! How many times did Haney beat Tom Platz again?

And if this were about race, why do the two men with the most Sandows just happen to be black? In fact, don't we have 5 black Mr. O winners, including the current champion?

Schmidt was nowhere near Haney's level, not even in true contention for the title. He can't get past guys much smaller than he was (Ray, Labrada).

Haney retired because there was nothing else for him to do. The last conquest was breaking Schwarzenegger's record. Once he did that, it was time to take his ball and go home.

you're much better and much more knowledgeable about bodybuilding than about political issues...good job...stick to your strength ;D

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #108 on: December 03, 2014, 09:55:15 AM »
One thing you will notice is that Sonny pretty much only looked really good in the lat spreads. Which was the opposite of Dillett, who only looked good when not doing a lat spread.

I'd say that in terms of the lat spread of Ray, Schmidt, Labrada, I would think that they are equal. Schmidt's lower rhomboids are impressive.
Since they (Schmidt, Yates, Haney) are not doing the same pose, one cannot say that he looked better than those two.
Dillett lat spread from the front looked amazing, from the back usually a different story... Schmidt had a great physique, in certain poses looked awesome, in others not so much, i'd say he is/was underrated... Not a MrO, but fairly complete...

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #109 on: December 03, 2014, 11:07:29 AM »
'81 Franco was the worst Mr O... hands down.  Personally, I feel Padilla was the best man that day, but I wouldn't complain if they had given it to Platz.

I have a feeling that all the Mr O competitors from the 90's who placed 2nd-10th wish they were competing against today's Mr O. competitors.  Any one of them would've cleaned these current "pros" clocks. 

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #110 on: December 03, 2014, 11:38:26 AM »
'81 Franco was the worst Mr O... hands down.  Personally, I feel Padilla was the best man that day, but I wouldn't complain if they had given it to Platz.

I have a feeling that all the Mr O competitors from the 90's who placed 2nd-10th wish they were competing against today's Mr O. competitors.  Any one of them would've cleaned these current "pros" clocks. 

much agreed......I wish those guys were still competing....they had such great personalities as well. I'd even settle for King Kamali coming back at this point :D

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #111 on: December 03, 2014, 12:48:19 PM »
Mcway, you completely got my post backwards about the legs. That number 1. Number 2, what the hell does race have to do with anything? Why did you bring up race! All I said was Sonny was Samoan and very quiet..I don't know what you mean about race? I'm to tired and have too much to do than go back and forth with you, when you can't even understand my post! :P

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #112 on: December 03, 2014, 12:51:03 PM »
Mcway, you completely got my post backwards about the legs. That number 1. Number 2, what the hell does race have to do with anything? Why did you bring up race! All I said was Sonny was Samoan and very quiet..I don't know what you mean about race? I'm to tired and have too much to do than go back and forth with you, when you can't even understand my post! :P


you have to understand that sometimes McWay overdoses on Orange Cell-Tech and doesn't think straight :)

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #113 on: December 03, 2014, 01:40:29 PM »
n true contention for the title. He can't get past guys much smaller than he was (Ray, Labrada).

Haney retired because there was nothing else for him to do. The last conquest was breaking Schwarzenegger's record. Once he did that, it was time to take his ball and go home.

Listen about 7:30 Haney hinted he would be back , if you don't think Yates was part of the reason he decided to retire you're kidding yourself. Haney had everything to lose and nothing to gain by competing in 92 . he retired in his best shape ever and went out ontop , the same can't be said for Dorian , Ronnie , Jay and Dexter.


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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #114 on: December 03, 2014, 02:32:41 PM »
Listen about 7:30 Haney hinted he would be back , if you don't think Yates was part of the reason he decided to retire you're kidding yourself. Haney had everything to lose and nothing to gain by competing in 92 . he retired in his best shape ever and went out ontop , the same can't be said for Dorian , Ronnie , Jay and Dexter.



Could you blame him?

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #115 on: December 03, 2014, 03:28:33 PM »
Could you blame him?


Hell no. That's why I admire Haney but Dorian would have beat him easily in 93 and Flex may have as well.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #116 on: December 03, 2014, 06:09:39 PM »
Read previous post Parker, and McWay! Wake up!!! Haney was not going to keep winning as you said, or out of the blue, create great legs. You are delusional. All the 90's guys were going to smoke him! ::) which is why he smartly stepped aside and went out on top.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #117 on: December 03, 2014, 06:20:12 PM »
Hell, IMO even Charles Clairmont would have smoked him! Let alone Zane, Dickerson, Samir, Franco, etc,,, you get the idea. They won Olympias just like Haney. Does that make them better because the win an O'? NO IT DOESN'T. Deal.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #118 on: December 03, 2014, 07:05:51 PM »
I mean c'mon. He was great for his time, but as you can see from everyother BB I posted, they surpassed him. Everyone has a preference, and for me, I was not crazy about his structure. A little top heavy. As you can see too, I don't post a bad picture of him to prove my point!

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #119 on: December 03, 2014, 07:21:44 PM »
I mean c'mon. He was great for his time, but as you can see from everyother BB I posted, they surpassed him. Everyone has a preference, and for me, I was not crazy about his structure. A little top heavy. As you can see too, I don't post a bad picture of him to prove my point!

Haney doesn't get the respect he deserves, even as an 8 time champ.  Pictures do not do him justice. 

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #120 on: December 03, 2014, 07:28:28 PM »
I can agree with that! Same goes for other body builders. It's said all the time and I agree because I saw him in competition shape, and pictures did not do him justice. I'm talking about Dorian!!! In person, no one was close. You just had to see him up close. The density, hardness, thin skin, whatever? He looked insane! No one was close. So I agree.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #121 on: December 03, 2014, 07:28:54 PM »
Mcway, you completely got my post backwards about the legs. That number 1. Number 2, what the hell does race have to do with anything? Why did you bring up race! All I said was Sonny was Samoan and very quiet..I don't know what you mean about race? I'm to tired and have too much to do than go back and forth with you, when you can't even understand my post! :P

You're the one who brought up Schmidt's being Samoan and how he talks as to why he couldn't be Mr. Olympia. Why bring up his race, if your point was simply that he's quiet?

Read previous post Parker, and McWay! Wake up!!! Haney was not going to keep winning as you said, or out of the blue, create great legs. You are delusional. All the 90's guys were going to smoke him! ::) which is why he smartly stepped aside and went out on top.

Haney, technically, was a 90s guys, number one. Plus, he'd already beaten Dorian once. You're assuming he couldn't do so again, as if he'd just stay stagnant while Yates (and others) just linearly improved.

Haney had nothing left to prove, after breaking Arnold's record. That's why he left.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #122 on: December 03, 2014, 07:31:14 PM »

Hell no. That's why I admire Haney but Dorian would have beat him easily in 93 and Flex may have as well.

Again, that's under the assumption that Haney would look exactly the way he did in '91. If Yates can put up 15 lbs of new mass, why can't Haney?

We've seen that, at the same bodyweight, Haney beats Yates due to having a smaller waist and better proportions.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #123 on: December 03, 2014, 07:34:47 PM »
Funny, as Haney was at the end of his career, and Dorian was just starting. You continue do make no sense. Get off Haney's jock already. He was ok for his time. I suppose he was better than Ronnie at his best too? Just give it up.

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Re: What year was the worst Mr Olympia physique?
« Reply #124 on: December 03, 2014, 07:38:35 PM »
McWAY, how many people have to tell you that you are wrong? ::)