Man assaulted by vigilante at a Florida Walmart.

[_aj_]

a gun is a tool used to damage and take life.

i'm in a store, i guy walks in with a gun strapped to his side.

i have no way of knowing if he is a good guy, just there to shop, or if he is there to rob and shoot.

i don't have gun. so now i have to walk around people who hold tools design to kill and i have to hope they don't use them.

the rejoinder to that is to carry a gun myself just in case one of them does intend to use theirs.

so we all end up having to carry guns.

we all know that is the logical progression. all the scenarios have been thought of and posed. "they", the powers behind any agenda, know the realities.

it goes forward anyway. therein lies the meaningful inspection and discussion.

while we argue back and forth about shit they already settled, they are able to set the agenda.

You must be very fearful around police officers.

Oh, and a gun is a tool designed to propel a hunk of metal down a tube.

Now can we discuss that foil hat on your head? You know, not everything is a conspiracy. Some times, it's just a policy disagreement or a disagreement about the role of government in our lives.

[ChuckleHead]

You must be very fearful around police officers.

Oh, and a gun is a tool designed to propel a hunk of metal down a tube.

Now can we discuss that foil hat on your head? You know, not everything is a conspiracy. Some times, it's just a policy disagreement or a disagreement about the role of government in our lives.

you should read what you write.

everything shouldn't have to be broken down for you.

if i say you think like a kid, you'll get upset. but you do.

[King Shizzo]

you should read what you write.

everything shouldn't have to be broken down for you.

if i say you think like a kid, you'll get upset. but you do.

Watch your tone when you address Vox Populi

[Walter Sobchak]

you should read what you write.

everything shouldn't have to be broken down for you.

if i say you think like a kid, you'll get upset. but you do.

You post exactly like Groink.

[SF1900]

I do not work for a Walmart store.

but you did in the past. Correct? Didn't Josh call your boss at walmart?

[King Shizzo]

but you did in the past. Correct? Didn't Josh call your boss at walmart?

Thats not how the events unfolded. Either way, it's over and done with.

[JOHN MATRIX]

a gun is a tool used to damage and take life.

i'm in a store, i guy walks in with a gun strapped to his side.

i have no way of knowing if he is a good guy, just there to shop, or if he is there to rob and shoot.

i don't have gun. so now i have to walk around people who hold tools design to kill and i have to hope they don't use them.

the rejoinder to that is to carry a gun myself just in case one of them does intend to use theirs.

so we all end up having to carry guns.

we all know that is the logical progression. all the scenarios have been thought of and posed. "they", the powers behind any agenda, know the realities.

it goes forward anyway. therein lies the meaningful inspection and discussion.

while we argue back and forth about shit they already settled, they are able to set the agenda.

i think you are making too much out of this.

chances are you are ALREADY passing tons of people who are carrying every time you venture into public, and nothing happens.

the idea that average citizens carrying will somehow turn them into 'threats' or make them more inclined to violence is just silly. the truth is, its just not that big of a deal. people dont need to get so worried about this stuff

[Walter Sobchak]

I do not work for a Walmart store.

Couldn't pass the drug test?

[ChuckleHead]

You post exactly like Groink.

never heard of him but he must have been an on the ball dude.

[King Shizzo]

Couldn't pass the drug test?

I have never failed a drug test in my life. Never had to sweat one out either.

[efirkey]

In Florida alone, there are millions of concealed carry permit holders. This is not an everyday occurance.

In NH, we have concealed permits, but you can open carry without a permit. I was in a Walmart once and saw a big white dude with a POS "Uncle Mikes" holster carrying a POS Ruger 9mm in open carry. I knew he wasn't a cop because of the crappiness of his holster.

I asked him if he was LEO and when he said no, we just started talking about guns. I mentioned that he needed some decent leather and he knew it.

It's culture. We don't have a lot (any?) crime and a lot of guns, so it's normal or at least not scary abnormal to see that. In FL, folks are a little more edgy. Especially since the legal carry permit holder in this story was Hebrew.

I live in New Hampshire and I have never seen any one open carry in public.   I do, however, know a lot of gun happy people.

[Walter Sobchak]

I have never failed a drug test in my life. Never had to sweat one out either.

No one ever fails a drug test they don't take.

[ChuckleHead]

I live in New Hampshire and I have never seen any one open carry in public.   I do, however, know a lot of gun happy people.

where i live, businesses, like KFC, supermarkets, car dealerships, have signs in their windows that say "firearms are prohibited" with a circle/slash over a gun.

it is now easy to get a concealed carry license in Illinois.


chances are i do pass tons of people everyday with guns.
that doesn't mean the experiment is over, it just beginning.

the results already starting to come in.  

[_aj_]

I live in New Hampshire and I have never seen any one open carry in public.   I do, however, know a lot of gun happy people.

This guy was the only one that I have seen in a business. I have seen some at rallies and such.

[King Shizzo]

No one ever fails a drug test they don't take.

I have been employed continuously for the past 17 years. I'm 33, so do the math.

[hench]

so you can get a licence to carry a concealed gun, but does this mean it cannot be taken out and used? If so what is the point of carrying one in the first place unless there is intention of use? If it has to be concealed then obviously it can't even be taken out to scare someone, very confusing rules. And what criteria do you have to meet to get a permit?

[SF1900]

so you can get a licence to carry a concealed gun, but does this mean it cannot be taken out and used? If so what is the point of carrying one in the first place unless there is intention of use? If it has to be concealed then obviously it can't even be taken out to scare someone, very confusing rules. And what criteria do you have to meet to get a permit?

I guess what they mean by conceal is when youre carrying it around it has to be concealed. But you can use it if your life is in danger.

[240 is Back]

so you can get a licence to carry a concealed gun, but does this mean it cannot be taken out and used? If so what is the point of carrying one in the first place unless there is intention of use? If it has to be concealed then obviously it can't even be taken out to scare someone, very confusing rules. And what criteria do you have to meet to get a permit?

you have to keep it concealed.

show it to scare someone, you get a year in prison.
point it at someone, you're looking at 2-3 years.
fire it to scare someone, now you're in the 5 year area.

you have to be 100% without felony arrests, no domestic abuse drama, no mental illness, background check, all that to get it.  It's essentially a "good guy" card - if you have one, then you've managed to keep your nose clean.  

There are exceptions - Zimmerman still has his.  Imagine that.

he shoved a cop, assaulted his women, capped trayvon, and has had 3 charges since then, plus one threatening to kill a man in traffic.  But since he's stayed beneath the felony line, he can still legally carry a suitcase full of rifles and backpack full of glocks to buy his morning donuts.

[King Shizzo]

I guess what they mean by conceal is when youre carrying it around it has to be concealed. But you can use it if your life is in danger.

Sounds self-explanatory to me 

[Walter Sobchak]

I have been employed continuously for the past 17 years. I'm 33, so do the math.

Math says you're a high school dropout who has, and will, work menial minimum wage jobs for your entire pathetic existence.

[King Shizzo]

Math says you're a high school dropout who has, and will, work menial minimum wage jobs for your entire pathetic existence.

You having a go brah? 

[SF1900]

Sounds self-explanatory to me 

I thought so.

[hench]

so yeah it has to be concealed no matter what, do any of the 3 things you listed below and your're looking at prison time so why permit anyone to carry in the first place...?

you have to keep it concealed.

show it to scare someone, you get a year in prison.
point it at someone, you're looking at 2-3 years.
fire it to scare someone, now you're in the 5 year area.

you have to be 100% without felony arrests, no domestic abuse drama, no mental illness, background check, all that to get it.  It's essentially a "good guy" card - if you have one, then you've managed to keep your nose clean.  

There are exceptions - Zimmerman still has his.  Imagine that.

he shoved a cop, assaulted his women, capped trayvon, and has had 3 charges since then, plus one threatening to kill a man in traffic.  But since he's stayed beneath the felony line, he can still legally carry a suitcase full of rifles and backpack full of glocks to buy his morning donuts.

[ChuckleHead]

so yeah it has to be concealed no matter what, do any of the 3 things you listed below and your're looking at prison time so why permit anyone to carry in the first place...?

LOL..you're thick man.............TO SHOOT PEOPLE IN THE FUCKING FACE!

DO YOU SEE THAT ANYWHERE ON THE LIST SHIT YOU CAN'T DO?

[240 is Back]

so yeah it has to be concealed no matter what, do any of the 3 things you listed below and your're looking at prison time so why permit anyone to carry in the first place...?

because 120 pound twinks can get their ass kicked by 220 pound jerks.
because a group of 4 teenagers with kitchen knives can kill a man and his family.
because the bad guys already have guns, and won't give them up.
because many things can happen in a dangerous world.