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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #200 on: March 27, 2015, 11:50:40 AM »
Don't rack pin DLs just shorten the range of motion?   That's not what Box squats do.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #201 on: March 27, 2015, 11:51:27 AM »
Then is the rack pin the DL equivalent of the box squat?
Yes, imo.
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #202 on: March 27, 2015, 11:53:07 AM »
Well you're right. Still I kind of feel like the hex bar, just like the box squat, is a way for some
to inflate their numbers. It's a deadlift yet it isn't.

Specifically for us we use the trap bar as a performance tool and not as a replacement for a straight bar in most cases and at different times depending on what phase we're in. Example, the trap bar dead is considered a knee dominant lift used mostly for athletes in skill positions (RB, DB/Safety, Wide Receiver, QB) as well as baseball, basketball and most other sports that require staying the "athletic" stance. These are the athletes that explode out of their first step in an athletic stance while the straight bar would be more hip dominant used mostly for athletes such as linebackers, lineman, etc. These athletes start their first step usually in the three point stance, lower to the ground. make sense?

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #204 on: March 27, 2015, 12:07:29 PM »
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Touch and go ^^^ we don't do that. We sit back on the box placing the shin angle behind the toes. "Touch and go" IMO is used more for lifters that can't gauge depth.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #205 on: March 27, 2015, 12:09:59 PM »
God damn it!  I still can't find the working video of the young man hitting 480!  >:(
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #206 on: March 27, 2015, 12:10:59 PM »
Touch and go ^^^ we don't do that. We sit back on the box placing the shin angle behind the toes. "Touch and go" IMO is used more for lifters that can't gauge depth.

Thanks, that's what I was getting at.
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #207 on: March 27, 2015, 12:19:40 PM »
Personally I think this turned into a decent training thread. Makes everyone think...I think.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #208 on: March 27, 2015, 12:26:50 PM »
Personally I think this turned into a decent training thread. Makes everyone think...I think.
I'll have it moved to the training board.....
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #209 on: March 27, 2015, 12:28:00 PM »
I'll have it moved to the training board.....

Nooooooo...it'll get buried. Wait, we have a training board? lol

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #210 on: March 27, 2015, 12:32:16 PM »
feel the same way about sumo pullers, that's not a deadlift

yeah, except no as most records are conventional and even equipped sumo pullers struggle to come close to the top raw conventional pullers

did someone really say they squatted 315 for 31 earlier in the thread? I guess the vid of that will be as elusive as coaches vid of his son squatting 480  :-\


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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #211 on: March 27, 2015, 12:50:02 PM »
Nooooooo...it'll get buried. Wait, we have a training board? lol

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #212 on: March 27, 2015, 12:58:21 PM »
yeah, except no as most records are conventional and even equipped sumo pullers struggle to come close to the top raw conventional pullers

did someone really say they squatted 315 for 31 earlier in the thread? I guess the vid of that will be as elusive as coaches vid of his son squatting 480  :-\



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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #213 on: March 27, 2015, 05:03:48 PM »
yeah, except no as most records are conventional and even equipped sumo pullers struggle to come close to the top raw conventional pullers

did someone really say they squatted 315 for 31 earlier in the thread? I guess the vid of that will be as elusive as coaches vid of his son squatting 480  :-\



I said it in the other thread about hardest workout ever.  Right after someone else said he had done 32.  There were no cell phone cameras or even cell phones back then.  Only one witness I could call.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #214 on: March 27, 2015, 05:07:49 PM »
I get that angle too.  I look at box/hex as ways to improve/compliment traditional lifts, not replace.

BUT, I do feel that the hex is a lot safer, and the more I think about it, maybe should replace the DL (outside of competitive powerlifting, of course).

Hex may be safer but it's a completely different lift. Hex becomes more of a squat, less hamstrings and lower back. But if it helps your sport then go right ahead. The poundages aren't transferable to the regular deadlift.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #215 on: March 27, 2015, 05:11:58 PM »
feel the same way about sumo pullers, that's not a deadlift

Yeah, I even know an elite powerlifter who only sumos in comps who says sumos aren't a "real" deadlift.
He says regular deadlifts says more about someones overall strength when unequipped.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #216 on: March 27, 2015, 05:12:45 PM »
yeah, except no as most records are conventional and even equipped sumo pullers struggle to come close to the top raw conventional pullers

did someone really say they squatted 315 for 31 earlier in the thread? I guess the vid of that will be as elusive as coaches vid of his son squatting 480  :-\



When I read this, I was like, I don't recall mentioning how many reps I've done with 315. MY best ever with three plates is 31, as well. Strange. There's a video of me doing 25 on YouTube but that obviously isn't my best ... as, as I say, I've done 31. On the day I did the 25, me and a buddy had driven down from Toronto to Akron to visit some friends and have some fun lifting at my old training place, Bodybuilders (shout out to Pep and the crew!). The 25 was done after benching. I hit two sets of 10 with 315 and then did a touch-and-go with 405. Then we squatted. And THEN I deadlifted. It was frigging hot that day, too.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #217 on: March 27, 2015, 05:28:55 PM »
I hit 315 for 30reps myself , maybe 8 years ago I was 28 at them time probably, 405 for 10, and 500 for 2


I never pushed it because I never used a spotter and my gym only had these squat racks

Oh and ass to grass squats, I was more impressed with myself hitting 500lbs, no belt, no knee wraps



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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #218 on: March 27, 2015, 05:32:29 PM »
I hit 315 for 30reps myself , maybe 8 years ago I was 28 at them time probably, 405 for 10, and 500 for 2


I never pushed it because I never used a spotter and my gym only had these squat racks

Oh and ass to grass squats, I was more impressed with myself hitting 500lbs, no belt, no knee wraps




Nice lifting, man. I know first-hand the psych focus it takes to go for big reps with a heavy weight.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #219 on: March 27, 2015, 05:38:49 PM »
Nice lifting, man. I know first-hand the psych focus it takes to go for big reps with a heavy weight.


Last year I was training to dead lift over 600lbs I got to 555 didnt property warm up trying to hit 560 and blew my lower back out for 3days LMFAO, I quit after that

I try my best to just go in and hit the weights with moderate weight but the challenge of lifting heavy always takes over

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #220 on: March 27, 2015, 05:42:11 PM »

Last year I was training to dead lift over 600lbs I got to 555 didnt property warm up trying to hit 560 and blew my lower back out for 3days LMFAO, I quit after that

I try my best to just go in and hit the weights with moderate weight but the challenge of lifting heavy always takes over

That sucks. But getting injured is just a part of the game. Ed Coan once told me the trick to building great strength is the ability to avoid CATASTROPHIC injury.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #221 on: March 27, 2015, 07:43:22 PM »
I can't deadlift worth a shit.

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #222 on: March 27, 2015, 07:51:27 PM »
Is there or IS THERE NOT a video of anyone lifting 480?

Oh by the way, squatting 315 x 31 reps?  I remember High School. It was very fun. 
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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #223 on: March 27, 2015, 08:59:53 PM »
I can't deadlift worth a shit.

My benching is embarrassing, the most I ever hit was 305lbs,
Almost always worked with 185 maybe 225 on strong days between 6-8 reps

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Re: My kid last night hitting 480lbs
« Reply #224 on: March 27, 2015, 09:17:00 PM »
when the lift ratios are all out and the numbers seem ridiculous I'm going to go ahead and assume most of these squats are 6 inch ''power bobs''

im sure videos will be along eventually


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even when I was squatting 605 raw I wouldn't have been able to do 315 for 31 ass to ground reps, and I was deadlifting a shit ton more than 600 at that strength & benching 455 with a busted shoulder

I'll go first and post a video of how much I was box squatting to be a 605 raw parallel squatter




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