How did Navy Mike's wife do at the Jr USA (bikini div)?

[Noel Fuller]

Ever thought about sharing the info with the competitors , it would make their prep and training so much easier.

I'm a pretty well known trainer and judge , I tell everyone that asks

[FitnessFrenzy]

her ass looks much more round and full in some of the older shots, so maybe her contest prep went wrong / bad?

[Howard]

Tiny waist, hips, flat tummy to noticeable abs, look of a track athlete as in you can tell she works out but not too much back or shoulders, arm definition without looking figure, butt needs to be muscular and lifted, round and fully developed to over developed, hammy tie in noticable

Damn good description of the criteria they need to use ( perhaps they already do?)
I can see why you are good at your job Noel.

Ya know, the NPC never provided clear criteria similar to what you just did.
I was pretty clueless , so I felt incompetent to judge bikini ( and MPD), so I quit.
It may sound odd, but I felt like an "outsider" during the last few years I judged.
Not sure why?

[liquid_c]

Noel doesn't like Mike too much.   Ever since Mike pointed out the very well known fact that female bodybuilding is pretty much dead.  

[Noel Fuller]

Get back in there, they need good judges at the local level

[Simple Simon]

I'm a pretty well known trainer and judge , I tell everyone that asks

Are you deliberately acting dumb.
This information should be clearly written down and available for the athletes.

Im pretty sure I could find it if I went and looked, you seem to be blissfully unaware.

[Noel Fuller]

Noel doesn't like Mike too much.   Ever since Mike pointed out the very well known fact that female bodybuilding is pretty much dead.  

Don't even know Mike, first place girl had a bad butt too.

[Noel Fuller]

Are you deliberately acting dumb.
This information should be clearly written down and available for the athletes.

Im pretty sure I could find it if I went and looked, you seem to be blissfully unaware.

I'm sure its written down somewhere, doesn't it make more sense to ask somebody who is actually going to judge, or if your unsure ask a trainer who has winning bikini girls?

[Simple Simon]

Damn good description of the criteria they need to use ( perhaps they already do?)
I can see why you are good at your job Noel.

Ya know, the NPC never provided clear criteria similar to what you just did.
I was pretty clueless , so I felt incompetent to judge bikini ( and MPD), so I quit.
It may sound odd, but I felt like an "outsider" during the last few years I judged.
Not sure why?

Are you trolling him?
Hes pretty much just made that up.

[Simple Simon]

I'm sure its written down somewhere, doesn't it make more sense to ask somebody who is actually going to judge, or if your unsure ask a trainer who has winning bikini girls?

Lol, you just quoted it according to you.
Where did you read all that you just spouted?

[Noel Fuller]

I will type slowly, we have judges meetings all the time for new judges and the criteria is explained. Judge enough shows or are involved and you can get a feel for what a good bikini body should look like, its hard to describe in detail why Phil beats Kia, you get a written description but it takes judging experience to get the right call.

[Wiggs]

Said it before, gonna hurt when she leaves him for a man with money and a cut lawn.

Sounds like you have insecurity issues.

[Simple Simon]

I will type slowly, we have judges meetings all the time for new judges and the criteria is explained. Judge enough shows or are involved and you can get a feel for what a good bikini body should look like, its hard to describe in detail why Phil beats Kia, you get a written description but it takes judging experience to get the right call.

By whom?

[Automation]

I will type slowly, we have judges meetings all the time for new judges and the criteria is explained. Judge enough shows or are involved and you can get a feel for what a good bikini body should look like, its hard to describe in detail why Phil beats Kia, you get a written description but it takes judging experience to get the right call.

By the right call, do you actually mean: the wrong call?

[Simple Simon]

see if you can guess who wins this before the end.

[Noel Fuller]

By whom?

Sandy Williamson at the Emerald cup this year, and the year before , and the year before, she explained it to about 500 people the night before the show, were all here to answer questions problem is not many people ask.

[Simple Simon]

Ok here is the deal ( I think):
Most of the actual judging criteria for bikini , MPD and even figure and WPD is based more on, unofficial word of mouth, "common knowledge". Even some of the bodybuilding criteria has evolved into this.

If you ever get bored and want to get a good idea of what I'm talking about it, go to IFBB.com
Click and read the actual rules for judging criteria, stage lighting, etc and yes , even the section on> ( drug testing/doping control/banned substances).

Very few of the written, official rules/criteria are ever adhered to or enforced.
It's been that way for a long time and is worse when it comes to the new divisions.
It's a real eye opener when you read the official, written rules and then reflect on what you see happen in actual contests.

So if your face fits you are OK?

[Noel Fuller]

see if you can guess who wins this before the end.

No real stand out, I could give reasons for the top three to be inter changed, girl who won had a good butt but the other girl in green also had a good butt, she would have been my choice because I like them slightly more muscular but the winner did have the tightest waist.

[Howard]

see if you can guess who wins this before the end.

I prefer the girls from Brazil.
The girl that won here is pretty and fit but it looks like she lost her ass playing cards before the show?

[Noel Fuller]

MPD and WPD is easy to judge

[Simple Simon]

No real stand out, I could give reasons for the top three to be inter changed, girl who won had a good butt but the other girl in green also had a good butt, she would have been my choice because I like them slightly more muscular but the winner did have the tightest waist.

are you serious, she looked like an ironing board.

If thats the criteria then its best to not lift and just diet on 700 cals for 10 weeks.

[latiuss]

Brazilian bikini over american bikini anyday

[Noel Fuller]

Did you see where I wrote no real stand out.

[Kwon_2]

Brazilian bikini over american bikini any day of the week.

[Howard]

are you serious, she looked like an ironing board.

If thats the criteria then its best to not lift and just diet on 700 cals for 10 weeks.

agree 100%