The Mature thread

[Mr Nobody]

Hopefully, you and your high school football team member have both matured and changed since those times. Sure, you'll probably spend some time reminiscing about the good ol' days, but this is also an opportunity to see if you have anything in common today.

I had some friends in high school who I lost touch with. I tried finding them via the Internet with no luck. Other high school friends, a few that I hung out with a lot, went on to have really screwed up adult lives and I was the wild one of the bunch! Go figure. Unlike these folks, I was never very interested in drugs. I think that is what ended up making a lot of difference. One friend was so smart, she went straight from high school to UCLA with an English lit major. She got her bachelor's and her master's in four years. She went on to become a heroin addict after school and turned her life to shit. Another really bright guy I hung out with ended up divorced and selling Real Estate in Spokane, WA. And to think, I was the dumb bunny of our little group.

What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.

[Primemuscle]

Thursday - Shoulders and Abs:

Smith seated front press, 5X15-4 @ 45 to 135 lbs.
Seated side lateral raises, 4X12-8 @ 10 to 17.5 each
Bodymasters rear lateral raises, 5X12-8 @ 30 to 70 (similar to bent later raises)
Shrugs, 4X15-8 @ 45 to 135 (I used a special contraption designed just for shrugs which I thought had gone missing)
Cable upright rows, 3X12 @ 77
Nautilus rotary torso, 2X25 @ 60
Fast trac, 2X25 @ bodyweight and using three positions
Nautilus crunches, 2X25 @ 70 to 80

I changed up a couple of exercises in this routine because the equipment I normally use was in use and other things just for variety.

[Primemuscle]

What does this tell you Prime? You can have every degree in the world but if your mind is not right it doesn't make any difference. You lose a parent or a close friend it effects you greatly. I lost my dad last year although not close with him it has really took a toll on me. Unresolved issues.

Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.

[Mr Nobody]

Pretty much everyone has unresolved issues with their parents. I know I did. It may make things worse for some of us when they pass, but you can't do anything about that. Time for you to put those issues to rest....you'll feel a lot better when you do.

My wife and I have made every effort to be as open with our children as possible while they were growing up. Still, we made mistakes raising them. Kids don't come with a handbook. Parents just do the best they can. Many years ago, I apologized to my son for not being more of a hands on dad. He was really into sports and, well, I suck at sports always have. Our daughter was date raped when she was only fifteen by another fifteen year old who had been her boyfriend for sometime. She didn't even tell us for almost 2 weeks because she had been drinking and she thought she did something to cause this to happen. It has been one of the biggest hurdles in her life to overcome. My wife and I wanted to contact the police or kill him whichever was easier and produced the best results. Our daughter convinced us to let it go. We insisted on her getting counseling. I still wish I'd killed him sometimes. We all have regrets.

I will say this. You come across like a really great guy (aside from having an issue with baseball bats and treadmills). Whatever unresolved problems you had with your dad apparently have not damaged your personality any.

I've told you this before; I barely knew my dad. The last time I saw him, I was 7 years old and he deserted me, leaving me with his nut-case of a girlfriend. My stepdad, who came into my life when I was 8 is my dad. He wasn't real "warm and fuzzy," but he was a great guy. I could tell you a lot of stories about my mother, but there isn't enough room in this forum for that.

Like I said, most parents are imperfect and most of us were not always the ideal kids while growing up.

Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.

[njflex]

i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,,

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 ,,,3 plates x30  ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,,

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,

[wild willie]

tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!

[Primemuscle]

Sorry to hear Prime. It was not your daughters fault as I think. Yea I learned from my Dad's mistakes in life, making sure I don't do the same things. Some people never learn. I always played sports but my dad never came to see one event it hurt me a bit. Tell us about your mother sometime see the guys are always closer to the mother than the dad most times.

There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.

[Donny]

i have 2 girls 7/3 ,,,love them dearly,pray the world dosen't pull them too far from where they came from in the future,,,,,

delts 2 nite great workout,,felt like myself months ago and dialed in some pics included,,,very ripped for summer here soon,,,,

side laterals 1st 20x12,25 x12,30 x12,30 x10 then dropped to 25 db till failure...nice start
fr press 45 per side x10//45 plus 10 x10,45 plus 10 and 5 forced 10,,then dropped back to 45 for 13,,,
bent over reear delts 20,25,30 dbs   
front raise straight bar 45 lber went up to 65 x3 sets reps 10 area,,,

shrugs with chest machine again lol,,,2 plates x30 ,,,3 plates x30  ,,3 plates plus 25 x 20 2x,,,

calves 5 set standup calf raise toe straight/pointed in sets 12/15 reps

forearms rope rolls weighted and behind back cable wrist curls,,

you got the abs there steve, nice shape and you are really in shape all year round. I am hitting cardio a bit harder at the momemt, mainly interval training for 30 mins. no training today and i have to work till 11pm in the Gym...maybe i will sneak in a bit here and there...

[Donny]

tonight i worked back.......12 sets


lat pulldowns

seated one arm cable rows

chest supported t bar rows

stiff arm pulldowns (rope)

20 minutes treadmill  3 incline   3.2 speed


trying to get hard and tight for summer!

stiff arm pulldowns with a rope i will use next time myself... yes get some walking in there.. train for all round fitness. I suppose watching my Father having a massive Heart attack made me think about cardio and general health. still....he who dies fitess still dies...

one other method good for losing fat is circuits.. my favourit is Boxing circuits...

Do 6 times -no stopping
skipping 1 minute
crunches(double crunch)
alternate DB shoulder press x10
Upright rowing(or side raises if hard on shoulder) x10
Nieder press10( standing press from chest like a bench press) all 3 exercises in 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

more emphasis on shoulders and what a boxer needs to hold his hands up for long periods.

another good circuit is ..

round 1
skipping 1 minute
crunches
front Barbell press

round 2
step-ups 1 minute
incline press -ups 1 minute
punch bag 1 minute

Round 3
Half sit ups 1 minute
skipping 1 minute
Arm punches with weights 1 minute

The circuit follows the format of a boxing match with 3 minutes of work in each round. Depending on your fitness level you can do as many rounds as you want. 10 rounds will be 30 minutes work, 10 minutes rest  a 40 minute workout that will prove to be very tiring..

so round 1 is 3 exercises rotated after 1 minute ..NO REST BETWEEN EXERCISES ..1 minute rest between rounds... ENJOY THE PAIN    this burns fat and quick !

[Donny]

Greg plitt great motivation...notice he does lunges like Steve...look like killers...

[Mr Nobody]

There is good and bad in everyone. The trick is to see the good and ignore the bad. Not that this is always an easy trick.

I did go to a lot of my son's games throughout his sports career. The really embarrassing time was when his Little League team hosted a father son game. The smaller the ball, the more problem I have seeing it. A baseball is very small. I made an idiot of myself trying to hit and catch the ball. I know I embarrassed him. As it turned out, I have a severe astigmatism which was not diagnosed until years after this event. This eye problem has a disastrous affect on my ability to gauge where the ball is. You can probably imagine how ridiculous I looked trying to play baseball that day.  

My stepdad was a great guy, like I said. He was from a very poor family and never had the opportunity to play sports as a kid. He also was very ambitious and worked 6 and 7 days a week to keep my mother happy and himself and her in Cadillacs and Lincolns. Playing catch with his stepson was not something he would have thought of doing.

I got to know him best when I went to work with him as a kid and he would talk to me like I was his contemporary, never talking down to me. He would also "rescue" me when my mom was on a rampage and had gone out to tie one on. He would take me to see silent films so we could both avoid her craziness when she'd come home blasted from one of her many binge nights.

I think I mentioned that I moved out as soon as I possibly could. Actually, I moved out when I was not yet 17. I had a job and rented a room in a boarding house and later an inexpensive apartment near work. Unfortunately, in those days there was no such thing as teenagers being emancipated.  One night when I was schlepping my laundry to the laundry matt, the cops stopped me because it was after curfew. They hauled me in to JDH, called my parents and informed us all that I could not live on my own at that age unless I lived with an adult. Not knowing any responsible adults, I moved home until my 18th birthday when I gave myself the present of freedom from the nut house.

This is not a sob story about my dysfunctional childhood and how damaged I was. There was much that was good in my life when I was a kid and I remember these events too. Sometimes I do think it is a bit of a curse that I can remember so much about my childhood though.

It was not my daughter's fault, anymore than it is anyone's fault if someone rapes them. The really horrific part of that story is that the other folks at the party were their friends, none of which intervened even though she called out for help. The asshole who raped her was so clueless that he couldn't understand why she would have nothing to do with him after it happened and he continued to harass her until he was expelled from high school for doing this.

My daughter met a wonderful man during her first year of college. They married when she was 19 years old and are still married today, almost 18 years later. He is the most loving and understanding husband any woman could hope to have. He knows all about what happened to her. He has helped her heal the emotional scars she suffered.

We all have some shit in our life story. We don't have to succumb to it. We have the ability to move on and make good lives for ourselves.

It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.

[booty]

Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.    Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.

[Donny]

It's amazing how childhood shapes your life forever you can learn by your parents mistakes or continue as they did. I left home at 18 to get away from the physical abuse of my Dad the same reason I started lifting weights as well. Good to hear your daughter is doing well now however that event will always stay with her.

yes good post...i never had a close relationship with my father either...we all grew up with something but you gotta live life now. I canīt imagine how hard that was for Jay and his daughter.

[Mr Nobody]

Guys I am going to start writing up my training logs again.    Good to see everyone is training hard and doing well.  Looking good Steve and wild willie post up some pics too.  How's your insomnia tonight Mr Nobody?  I hope it gets better for you.  Nothing is worse than laying there unable to fall asleep.

Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.

[booty]

Good post them up. The Insomnia has been all my life I can only sleep about 3-4 hours then up again it comes from my dad waking us all up when he came home late at night from work. Yea Steve is jacked I don't recall seeing a pic of wild.

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 

[Donny]

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 

sad but true...you really have to watch what you write and that includes pictures

[Mr Nobody]

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch.  

That would be nice a password it will not happen though. Yea some good people in this thread you are one of them.

[oldtimer1]

Every time I think about posting a picture I come to my senses. The guys using steroids will say you can't compare to them. Which is true. Never understood a guy who is proud of a temporary steroid physique. Another reason is I could see my picture photo shopped for juvenile comedy.  Lastly anyone can use it for a site like Craig's list falsely representing some anonymous poster. 

[booty]

If you posted a pic in here, you would get constructive criticism and praise where needed.  We would never rip anyone apart.  It's just the trolls/gimmicks that read and watch this place that you have to be careful of.  Thanks for the nice words Mr Nobody, I think you are a good person as well...as is Donny, Jay and Steve, Oldtimer. 

[Mr Nobody]

Off topic - I got this guy across the street using a electric saw all day woke me up at like 6:30am. I hate useless noise unless it's good music. I am thinking of going over and beating the piss out of him.

[Primemuscle]

Guys I am a bit guarded in here as I know that what I post gets taken into other forums on getbig and used against me as attacks.  In a way I wish we had a password where you had to get approved to post in the mature thread and we could post in complete confidance.  I feel protective towards you bunch. 

I completely understand, having posted what I thought was a photo of myself, which I intended to be an honest "before" (having just started back working out) photo and one where I could get some advice on what areas to work on. In this forum that worked out fine. Unfortunately, someone took that photo out of context posting it in another thread and someone else even photo-shopped it to make it appear I was ogling Tbombz. I was miffed at first, but got over it. I will not let those idiots influence whether I post progress photos here in this thread. Although I might choose drab clothing since my underwear color choice was so controversial....LOL!

If we cannot speak freely to each other as adults here in this forum without fear of what we say or post being used to slander us in other Getbig forums, perhaps we should start a blog of our own. The only problem I see with this is that the participation here has grown as other mature Getbigger's discover the value of this forum.

[njflex]

I completely understand, having posted what I thought was a photo of myself, which I intended to be an honest "before" (having just started back working out) photo and one where I could get some advice on what areas to work on. In this forum that worked out fine. Unfortunately, someone took that photo out of context posting it in another thread and someone else even photo-shopped it to make it appear I was ogling Tbombz. I was miffed at first, but got over it. I will not let those idiots influence whether I post progress photos here in this thread. Although I might choose drab clothing since my underwear color choice was so controversial....LOL!

If we cannot speak freely to each other as adults here in this forum without fear of what we say or post being used to slander us in other Getbig forums, perhaps we should start a blog of our own. The only problem I see with this is that the participation here has grown as other mature Getbigger's discover the value of this forum.

THIS IS MY FAVORITE THREAD ,,,AND I POST HERE EVERY DAY,,,AND THE HALF NAKED SHOTS DONE IN GOOD TASTE ...

[Primemuscle]

Every time I think about posting a picture I come to my senses. The guys using steroids will say you can't compare to them. Which is true. Never understood a guy who is proud of a temporary steroid physique. Another reason is I could see my picture photo shopped for juvenile comedy.  Lastly anyone can use it for a site like Craig's list falsely representing some anonymous poster. 

Well if I start getting messages from Craig's list, I'll let you know.  

Personally, I try to balance freedom of speech with a measure of caution. I have periodically checked to see what images come up when I Google my handle and my real name. So far, so good. Primemuscle is really a common handle/name used on the Internet. Access to my legal name is reserved for folks I trust. Using my first name, Jay, here has not proved to be a problem either.

Caution is one thing; paranoia is another whole matter and I refuse to go there.

[Primemuscle]

Off topic - I got this guy across the street using a electric saw all day woke me up at like 6:30am. I hate useless noise unless it's good music. I am thinking of going over and beating the piss out of him.

Think about it all you want, just don't do it.

[Donny]

Think about it all you want, just don't do it.

yes good advice...lol I got an old guy who lives above me and thinks he is everyones Sheriff here...he used to work in A German Jail. He is retired and is a DIY freak and it does get annoying at times; The same guy kept annoying my wife about old bikes left in the basement area of our block(we have a designated area for bikes). I spoke to him about it and he got pissy so i told him to wind his neck in. He then wrote a letter about me to my landlord, i could have got upset but i just laughed at it. It was how he wrote it...very old fashioned German. The guy is a clown and i hear his wife shouting at him all the time, so i know really he is living his Hell out till he goes...point is people like that are frustrated and not worth it. Keep cool...