The Mature thread

[njflex]

legs 
back to squats 1st in line pheww,,warmed up stretched good knee creaky tad,135x15,225x12,275 x12,315x10,365x10 ,,,405 was doable not today tho,,
leg press 4 plates x12,5 plates x12,6 x10,7 x10
leg extensions 220 x12,235x12,250x12
great pump 11 sets hard training..

hams
leg curl 140x12,150x10,155x10
still legged dlift 185x10,225x10,225x10

calves leg press and seated calf raise,,

[Donny]

Nice Steve....i was just running in the woods ....good sweat Run....only thing is i Got bitten to pieces ...lots of things flying around

[Donny]

 Chest...

Decline Barbell press 3x8-10 (Superset) with Decline DB flyes 3x12
Incline Smith machine press 3x8-10 (superset) with Incline Cable Flyes 3x12
push ups between benches 3x max (superset) with seated machine Flyes 3x12

lying knee ins on mat Superset with crunches feet on the mat 3x 30-50 reps.

[njflex]

Chest...

Decline Barbell press 3x8-10 (Superset) with Decline DB flyes 3x12
Incline Smith machine press 3x8-10 (superset) with Incline Cable Flyes 3x12
push ups between benches 3x max (superset) with seated machine Flyes 3x12

lying knee ins on mat Superset with crunches feet on the mat 3x 30-50 reps.

I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,

[Primemuscle]

I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,

For some reason, declines have always been easier for me then flat bench presses, although dips are good too.

[njflex]

For some reason, declines have always been easier for me then flat bench presses, although dips are good too.
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in what way comfortable or strength?its a short range of motion so going heavy is easier,,,to me its a delt killer,,

[Donny]

I HATE DECLINES,,,SOMETIMES THE DB VERSION OK,,FRONT DELT KILLER FOR ME,,,DIPS,DIPS,DIPS,,,,

I like Dips too but i find Declines kinder to my shoulders...I like the angle you work at. Some do not like lying down with your head in a lower Position but it really hits my chest. Dips are similar as you know and safer if Training alone.

[Primemuscle]

I like Dips too but i find Declines kinder to my shoulders...I like the angle you work at. Some do not like lying down with your head in a lower Position but it really hits my chest. Dips are similar as you know and safer if Training alone.

It takes a bit of set up, but I've moved the stand alone decline bench under the Smith machine and done declines that way. It makes it a little safer since there are more places to hook it off.

I am moving to Germany. Whew, it is hot, hot, hot here; 98 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday and 95 today. The hottest part of the day this far north and west is around 5:00 p.m. So it just keeps building and building all day long. The house cooled down to 74 with all the windows open overnight. It already has climbed to 76 and it is 84 degrees outside at 11:30 a.m. There is absolutely no breeze. This isn't making this friggin' cold feel any better. Summer colds have to be the worst.

[njflex]

GENTS,,I ALSO DO A GREAT SMITH MOVEMENT FLAT BENCH TO UPPER CHEST AT NECK/COLLARBONE OLD GIRONDA MOVEMENT.

[Donny]

It takes a bit of set up, but I've moved the stand alone decline bench under the Smith machine and done declines that way. It makes it a little safer since there are more places to hook it off.

I am moving to Germany. Whew, it is hot, hot, hot here; 98 degrees Fahrenheit yesterday and 95 today. The hottest part of the day this far north and west is around 5:00 p.m. So it just keeps building and building all day long. The house cooled down to 74 with all the windows open overnight. It already has climbed to 76 and it is 84 degrees outside at 11:30 a.m. There is absolutely no breeze. This isn't making this friggin' cold feel any better. Summer colds have to be the worst.

well today was warmer but yesterday was OK...the next few days should be warmer by weather reports. I canīt wait for October..better for me.

[Donny]

GENTS,,I ALSO DO A GREAT SMITH MOVEMENT FLAT BENCH TO UPPER CHEST AT NECK/COLLARBONE OLD GIRONDA MOVEMENT.

NOOOOO....   shoulder killer for me . No doubt you have a stronger shoulder structure than me. Dips and other exercises i can do but Girondas Press to neck is an exercise that is in my opinion a shoulder wrecker. You canīt use heavy weight with... unlike Decline press  and if you do it will cause Problems. A totally unnatural movement.

[njflex]

NOOOOO....  shoulder killer for me . No doubt you have a stronger shoulder structure than me. Dips and other exercises i can do but Girondas Press to neck is an exercise that is in my opinion a shoulder wrecker. You canīt use heavy weight with... unlike Decline press  and if you do it will cause Problems. A totally unnatural movement.

100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE FLYES.. ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD  

[Donny]

100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD 

Steve if you can do it ..it works for you. If you got no Problems...a great superset. Do it  I am happy i can incline press and do incline flyes. I have to admit decline flyes are for most a forgotten exercise...a shame because it really is a great move.,,and superst outstanding.it really hits your pecs diffrent.

[Primemuscle]

100 PCT CORRECT IT CAN WRECK U ,,I USE A 45 AND MAYBE TEN EACH SIDE SLOW AND TO THE LOWER PORTION THROAT WHERE MEETS COLLARBONE,,I'M GOING TO SUPERSET THIS WITH INCLINE FLYES.. ONLY BECAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THEM RECENTLY AND LIGHT BULB WENT OFF IN HEAD,,,TOP HEAD  

What is the advantage of doing these to-the-neck flat bench presses? I've done all manner of grips, close, wide and normal, thinking this made some difference. Of course narrow grip is a triceps exercise.

[Primemuscle]

I have to admit decline flyes are for most a forgotten exercise...a shame because it really is a great move.,,and superst outstanding.it really hits your pecs diffrent.

You are exactly right about this. It is rare to see anyone doing these at the gym. There are two decline bench setups which mostly go unused.

Lately there have been a lot of guys doing flat and incline dumbbell presses, some with amazingly heavy weight. With my arthritic hands and poor ability to grip, you won't see me doing these with mass weights anytime soon.

[njflex]

What is the advantage of doing these to-the-neck flat bench presses? I've done all manner of grips, close, wide and normal, thinking this made some difference. Of course narrow grip is a triceps exercise.

go upper pec/delt tie in exercise ,,performed slow/lighter weights or relative to strenght,,,

[njflex]

chest 2 nite continued the supersetting trend 'donny's 'got me on a kick,,
still flat db pressing increasing load still slow in weight to get back up..55x15,65x10,70x10,75x5 dropped to 60 5 more still tough here ???ok..
ok superset 'bench to neck' with incline flyes wicked pump,,worked 135x10 with 30x10,165x10 with 35x10,165x8 with 35x8,back 135x10/30x10
hammer sit up mid /lower pec press 2 plates per side 3x10 with chest dips x3 sets 10
finished cable crossovers x3x12-15

tris again superset
overhead rope with pushdowns 90x10 w/100x10,110 x10 w120x10,120 x9 w/130x10
dip machine with reverse version pushdown all sets dips 190 x10 and did 100,110,115 x10 on reverse
kick back cables x2 x12

abs hanging leg raises x3 and crunch machine x3x15

chest thickness is all the way back,veins coming around,and some split in chest between lower and middle side crease,,,feel good/pumped..

[Primemuscle]

chest thickness is all the way back,veins coming around,and some split in chest between lower and middle side crease,,,feel good/pumped..

Keep doing what you are doing, because from the photo you posted, it is obviously working.

[Donny]

Keep doing what you are doing, because from the photo you posted, it is obviously working.

yes i have to agree...Steve you look solid in that Picture and considering you had an injury ..amazing low fat AND dense muscle. Now that is not easy and your Training and diet are spot on.

[njflex]

yes i have to agree...Steve you look solid in that Picture and considering you had an injury ..amazing low fat AND dense muscle. Now that is not easy and your Training and diet are spot on.

THANKS JAY/DONNY ....yeah still 15 lbs off dumbbell best ,i'm cool with it,,the supersetting chest workouts a month in are great ,,great pumps,my chest looks 'arnoldesque'lol, ,,pumped...Donny hooked me in to them SUPERSETS,,i do feel great,,weird how I conk out at 75 dbells after 6,that arm just tires in same point,,,so I drop them pick up 60's rep till gassed..diet wise I eat clean foods,5 meals some snacks non bbing type foods ,but then again bbers eat like crap most of the time in building stage 'they need to or feel need to'...

[Donny]

so today i superseted legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15 with
Smith machine squats 3x10-15

seated leg curls 3x10-15 with
stiff deadlifts (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

DB lunges 3x8 with
seated leg press 3x10-15

i finished off with a calf machine we have seated at an angle like donkey calf raises 4x15 doing lunges at the end with leg press worked very well as a superset...

[njflex]

so today i superseted legs...

leg extensions 3x10-15 with
Smith machine squats 3x10-15

seated leg curls 3x10-15 with
stiff deadlifts (Dumbbells) 3x10-15

DB lunges 3x8 with
seated leg press 3x10-15

i finished off with a calf machine we have seated at an angle like donkey calf raises 4x15 doing lunges at the end with leg press worked very well as a superset...

nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,

[Donny]

nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,

Thatīs great Steve... i love ice cream...

[Primemuscle]

nice Donny,,i was off yesterday.took girls for real homemade icecream,i had cappuccino crunch on a cone good stuff,,,

Ice cream is soothing to my throat these days. After almost two weeks of coughing my head off, my throat is pretty raw feeling. No gym yet.

[Donny]

Now I want some ice cream...but it's after 11pm and I'm in bed...I will resist going to my fridge....