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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #650 on: May 03, 2016, 01:16:17 PM »
How did America link this to Iraq?

And why did they attack Iraq, instead of focusing on Al Qaeda and Bin Laden?

Iraq had nothing to do with this and caused the most global repercussions in terms of increased terrorism and destabilization.

IMO that was a fully intended consequence, and Obama's actions since will back that up.  Yes, I view him as the GWB Admin II.  Hillary will be the GWB Admin III.

They're working on behalf of those who benefit from a surveillance-state.

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« Reply #651 on: May 03, 2016, 01:41:37 PM »
IMO that was a fully intended consequence, and Obama's actions since will back that up.  Yes, I view him as the GWB Admin II.  Hillary will be the GWB Admin III.

They're working on behalf of those who benefit from a surveillance-state.

I keep hearing this shit all the time, whos checking up on who?
I dont care if the government tap into my PC or telephone and follow me around, FFS they must be fucking bored.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #652 on: May 03, 2016, 01:41:53 PM »
Lmao, pork chops were one of Atta's favorite foods?  IDK for sure but that's a standing claim.

Atta's dad claimed he called him on Sept 12th.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #653 on: May 03, 2016, 01:49:14 PM »


The Twentieth Hijacker
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The asymmetry was disturbing. There were five hijackers on the plane that crashed into the North Tower, five on the flight that brought down the South Tower, and five on the one that plowed into the Pentagon. But there were only four on United 93, which crashed in an empty field in western Pennsylvania. Was there supposed to be a fifth man on that flight too? Was he still at large? So when the news broke in the days after 9/11 that, nearly a month before the attacks, U.S. immigration officials in Minnesota had arrested and continued to hold Zacarias Moussaoui—a French-Moroccan man with jihadist ties who’d come to the States to attend flight-training school—it seemed as if at least one mystery had been solved. In Moussaoui, we had found the twentieth hijacker.

But Moussaoui’s incompetence soon proved to be so great that it became difficult to believe Al Qaeda would have ever entrusted him to mail a postcard, much less pilot a plane. He dropped out of one flight school. He aroused suspicions at another by reportedly saying he wanted to learn how to fly a 747 but had no interest in taking off or landing. Representing himself for part of his trial (his court-appointed attorneys were “bloodsuckers” and “the death team”), he denied he was part of the 9/11 plot before later pleading guilty to the charges. By the time he was sentenced to life in prison, in 2006, the captured 9/11 mastermind Khalid Shaikh Mohammed had told American interrogators that Moussaoui wasn’t part of that terrorist plot but another one. And not long after Moussaoui arrived at the federal supermax prison in Colorado, an audiotape believed to be from bin Laden surfaced, stating, “I am the one in charge of the nineteen brothers, and I never assigned brother Zacarias to be with them in that mission … [H]e wasn’t No. 20 in the group.”

So was there a No. 20, after all? If so, who was he? According to the 9/11 Commission, there were at least nine and possibly ten men, in addition to the nineteen on the planes, whom bin Laden recruited to participate in the attacks, but only one of those men appears to have come close to joining the nineteen (the others either weren’t able to enter the U.S. or backed out) [T4 ].

In August 2001, a little more than a month before the attacks, a Saudi man in his early twenties named Mohammed Mani Ahmed al-Qahtani flew from Dubai via London to Orlando. According to Mustafa al-Hawsawi, one of the 9/11 financiers, Qahtani was “the last one” to “complete the group,” and Mohamed Atta himself had driven to the Orlando airport to meet him. But when Qahtani—who traveled on a one-way ticket and carried only $2,800—tried to go through Customs, a border official suspected he might try to immigrate illegally and sent him back to Dubai.

The following December, Qahtani was captured by Pakistani forces as he was retreating from the battle of Tora Bora. He was later turned over to American officials and sent to Guantánamo, where FBI agents reportedly ascertained that he was indeed supposed to be the twentieth hijacker. In 2008, military prosecutors announced that Qahtani was being charged with war crimes and murder. But in January 2009, six days before George W. Bush left office, a top administration official announced the charges against Qahtani would be dropped on the grounds that the evidence was tainted because he’d been tortured. Military interrogators subjected him to, among other things, sleep deprivation and isolation. He remains in detention at Gitmo. In 2005, lawyers from the Center for Constitutional Rights filed a habeas petition on Qahtani’s behalf. The case, which was originally called Qahtani v. Bush, is still pending. (It’s now called Qahtani v. Obama.) According to an October 2008 “Detainee Assessment” released by WikiLeaks earlier this year, Qahtani is “in good health” and remains a “high risk, as he is likely to pose a threat to the U.S., its interests, and allies.”

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #654 on: May 03, 2016, 02:12:29 PM »
I keep hearing this shit all the time, whos checking up on who?
I dont care if the government tap into my PC or telephone and follow me around, FFS they must be fucking bored.

Would you consider running for office?  And would it concern you if you could not contain the information needed for you to win?

Have you ever run a large business, and would it concern you if you could not contain your proprietary information?

Have you ever been to court, and would it concern you if you could not contain the information required for you to succeed?

And most importantly, no matter who you are, if you've wondered how the political body has become so disconnected as to produce "superstars" like Marco Rubio and all the other crumbs who happen to have the EXACT same agenda whether R or D -- one that works against our common benefit, then I say that's your answer.  We're now faced with the resulting product from political-shaping allowed by surveillance.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #655 on: May 03, 2016, 02:16:51 PM »
It has neo-con all over it, judging by the results.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #656 on: May 03, 2016, 02:40:26 PM »
It has neo-con all over it, judging by the results.

And we have a winner!!!!

American foreign policy in the Middle East makes perfect sense once you understand the true purpose (destroy Shia, control Sunni) and whom it serves (Israeli Zionists and their NeoCon allies).  You need look no further than Hillary Clinton's bribes from the big banksters for a blatant example of how US foreign policy gets subverted by treasonous usurpers and foreigners.  It's right out there in the open.  She's a war pig because it pays, as are most of the establishment candidates.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #657 on: May 03, 2016, 02:41:42 PM »
CIA And Pentagon Arming Opposite Sides In Syria



http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-cia-pentagon-isis-20160327-story.html

One could not make this shit up, worst than fiction.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #658 on: May 03, 2016, 02:55:46 PM »
Ken OKeefe Exposes 9-11-01 in 2016






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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #659 on: May 03, 2016, 02:58:33 PM »
How do buildings accelerate as they collapse?  Controlled demolition... The buildings accelerated, which means there could have been zero resistance from lower floors... Why?? Explosives... Yes there were traces of thermite and nanothermite at the site...used by the military for demolition...the fires were not hot enough to melt steel, but yet there were pools of molten steel at the base of the rubble that stayed hot for weeks.  Why? Thermite.

How 2 of the tallest buildings in the world collapsed in mere seconds, better said. Let that sink in for a moment.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #660 on: May 03, 2016, 03:09:28 PM »
Atta's dad claimed he called him on Sept 12th.

Hadn't heard this one before.  Weird how he says (when his son called, according to him) "neither of us knew anything" about the attacks at that time.  Really, I'd say the guy was in shock and he was trying to go back to a time when there was still a chance.

Father insists alleged leader is still alive

1 September 2002

The father of Mohammed Atta, the alleged ringleader of the September 11 attacks, said in an interview published yesterday that his son was still alive.

"He is hiding in a secret place so as not to be murdered by the US secret services," Mohammed el-Amir Atta, 66, told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag. He also vehemently denied that his son - believed to have flown the first plane into the World Trade Centre - had taken part in the atrocities, blaming them instead on "American Christians".

The interview painted a picture of a tortured man who has not come to terms with his 33-year-old son's death or with the huge crime laid at his door. He said he feared the US would try to poison him.

Speaking from his Cairo home, Mr Atta described hearing about the attacks after returning from a holiday on the Red Sea on the evening of September 12. "My daughter called and said she was going to drop in. She stood at the door and said 'turn on the TV'," he said. Amid images of the jets crashing into the Twin Towers, he saw his son's passport photograph.

"As I saw the picture of my son," he said, "I knew that he hadn't done it. My son called me the day after the attacks on September 12 at around midday. We spoke for two minutes about this and that.

"He didn't tell me where he was calling from. At that time neither of us knew anything about the attacks."

Mr Atta said he did not condone the attacks, but could understand the hijackers' motivation. "Every day our Palestinian brothers are being murdered, their houses destroyed. If their relatives were to fly a plane into the Empire State Building I couldn't hold it against them," he added.

Mr Atta called his son a "gentle and tender boy", who enjoyed reading history and geography books and was nicknamed "Bolbol", or nightingale, by his parents.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #661 on: May 03, 2016, 04:52:16 PM »
How do buildings accelerate as they collapse?  Controlled demolition... The buildings accelerated, which means there could have been zero resistance from lower floors... Why?? Explosives... Yes there were traces of thermite and nanothermite at the site...used by the military for demolition...the fires were not hot enough to melt steel, but yet there were pools of molten steel at the base of the rubble that stayed hot for weeks.  Why? Thermite.
Bullshit
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #662 on: May 03, 2016, 06:38:54 PM »
Let's play this game but another way. So you are telling us that the floors collapsing were so loud they sounded like explosion in it's way down?

 You can tell the individual in the video is way more far than it looks like, since we are talking about one of the tallest building in the world, not some tall building in New York, do you understand the relativity of distance? Are you one of those flat earthlings?

So floors collapsing sound like explosions now? Were are your video evidence of such occurrence, retard?

Minute 6:12 in the video.



But keep posting, at the end you will be always OWNED!!!

Another fail from the youtube monkey

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #663 on: May 04, 2016, 10:50:57 AM »
What purpose did 9/11 served??? ???
 
People should refresh their memory with the movie in the link below, or download it.  Although a movie from a liberal,  if only 50% is true, is mind blowing, how Bush Jr stole the elections, the whole time that he spent on vacation before 9/11, pressuring goverment officials to find the connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq, how we turned that country into a bigger shit hole that it already was, and the sheer amount of money the goverment and corporations like Halliburton stole through the Iraq war from taxpayers.

Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11





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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #664 on: May 04, 2016, 11:26:04 AM »
What purpose did 9/11 served??? ???
 
People should refresh their memory with the movie in the link below, or download it.  Although a movie from a liberal,  if only 50% is true, is mind blowing, how Bush Jr stole the elections, the whole time that he spent on vacation before 9/11, pressuring goverment officials to find the connection between Al-Qaeda and Iraq, how we turned that country into a bigger shit hole that it already was, and the sheer amount of money the goverment and corporations like Halliburton stole through the Iraq war from taxpayers.

Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11






Fucking lol, you posts a video that you yourself indicate may only be 50% true and expect people to watch it?????
If you know 1% of it is untrue then it instantly casts doubt on the other 99%

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #665 on: May 04, 2016, 11:33:38 AM »
The youtube monkey lives on in failure!

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #666 on: May 04, 2016, 11:35:32 AM »
Hadn't heard this one before.  Weird how he says (when his son called, according to him) "neither of us knew anything" about the attacks at that time.  Really, I'd say the guy was in shock and he was trying to go back to a time when there was still a chance.

Father insists alleged leader is still alive

1 September 2002

The father of Mohammed Atta, the alleged ringleader of the September 11 attacks, said in an interview published yesterday that his son was still alive.

"He is hiding in a secret place so as not to be murdered by the US secret services," Mohammed el-Amir Atta, 66, told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag. He also vehemently denied that his son - believed to have flown the first plane into the World Trade Centre - had taken part in the atrocities, blaming them instead on "American Christians".

The interview painted a picture of a tortured man who has not come to terms with his 33-year-old son's death or with the huge crime laid at his door. He said he feared the US would try to poison him.

Speaking from his Cairo home, Mr Atta described hearing about the attacks after returning from a holiday on the Red Sea on the evening of September 12. "My daughter called and said she was going to drop in. She stood at the door and said 'turn on the TV'," he said. Amid images of the jets crashing into the Twin Towers, he saw his son's passport photograph.

"As I saw the picture of my son," he said, "I knew that he hadn't done it. My son called me the day after the attacks on September 12 at around midday. We spoke for two minutes about this and that.

"He didn't tell me where he was calling from. At that time neither of us knew anything about the attacks."

Mr Atta said he did not condone the attacks, but could understand the hijackers' motivation. "Every day our Palestinian brothers are being murdered, their houses destroyed. If their relatives were to fly a plane into the Empire State Building I couldn't hold it against them," he added.

Mr Atta called his son a "gentle and tender boy", who enjoyed reading history and geography books and was nicknamed "Bolbol", or nightingale, by his parents.

If Atta is still alive he simply has to show his face and the US government will be exposed, the Terrorists will win.

But we all know that's the same fantasy as Tupac and Elvis still living.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #667 on: May 04, 2016, 11:58:45 AM »
If Atta is still alive he simply has to show his face and the US government will be exposed, the Terrorists will win.

But we all know that's the same fantasy as Tupac and Elvis still living.

I'm pretty sure if he was living that was a loose end that was cleaned up pretty quickly after 9/11.  What must suck is that any muslim who just happened to be on those planes for legit reasons are probably on that list as a terrorist because of their name and nothing else.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #668 on: May 04, 2016, 12:59:09 PM »
I'm pretty sure if he was living that was a loose end that was cleaned up pretty quickly after 9/11.  What must suck is that any muslim who just happened to be on those planes for legit reasons are probably on that list as a terrorist because of their name and nothing else.

I doubt it.  They had reports and files on these guys prior to 9/11.  They researched their movements prior to 9/11 giving them a good idea of who they were and what they were on the plane for.  Also, its stupid to think that "IF" this was the CT of the century that they would pin this on someone who was till alive that they didn't already have in custody so they could kill immediately.  Its dumb to think they could have covered this whole thing up so well, a CT involving hundreds if not thousands of people that they have been able to keep quite for 15 years with out 1 coming forward, and yet be so irresponsible to pin it on someone who was still alive.  Common sense.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #669 on: May 04, 2016, 01:13:55 PM »
Has anyone brought up the idea that the towers were originally designed to be collapsed, that this was the plan from the beginning?

That 9/11/2001 was a pre planned date from the beginning even before the the construction of the buildings began?

The NWO began working with the illuminati to wipe out the memory of true hebrews?

Ropo once again has made some valid points about no visual  proof of explosions, thus it wasn't a controlled demolition. But I still waver because there are numerous experts who seem to believe (based on the visual evidence ) that it was a controlled demolition.

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« Reply #670 on: May 04, 2016, 01:21:32 PM »
I doubt it.  They had reports and files on these guys prior to 9/11.  They researched their movements prior to 9/11 giving them a good idea of who they were and what they were on the plane for.  Also, its stupid to think that "IF" this was the CT of the century that they would pin this on someone who was till alive that they didn't already have in custody so they could kill immediately.  Its dumb to think they could have covered this whole thing up so well, a CT involving hundreds if not thousands of people that they have been able to keep quite for 15 years with out 1 coming forward, and yet be so irresponsible to pin it on someone who was still alive.  Common sense.

not hundreds or thousands.  It would take just a small team of people.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #671 on: May 04, 2016, 01:34:48 PM »
Fucking lol, you posts a video that you yourself indicate may only be 50% true and expect people to watch it?????
If you know 1% of it is untrue then it instantly casts doubt on the other 99%

Reading and comprehension at it's finest. If only half of it is true, as you typical goverment shill types would have to prove other wise the information in this video was not true, you moron. I did not indicate that 50% was no true, imbecile, learn to READ.

By the way did you ever watched it back in the day or now? Don't bother, we already know the answer. But keep trying.

You goverment sheeple are just too easy to make fun of.


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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #672 on: May 04, 2016, 01:50:40 PM »
not hundreds or thousands.  It would take just a small team of people.

No, not at all.  But of course it depends on the scope of what you think was an "inside job"  If you think the WTC's were demolished and the pentagon was hit by a missile you are talking hundreds maybe over a thousand. 

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« Reply #673 on: May 04, 2016, 01:52:18 PM »
No, not at all.  But of course it depends on the scope of what you think was an "inside job"  If you think the WTC's were demolished and the pentagon was hit by a missile you are talking hundreds maybe over a thousand. 

My theory has always been that it wasn't an inside job but the gov knew it was going to happen and let it happen as a precursor to starting a war with Iraq.

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Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #674 on: May 04, 2016, 01:55:15 PM »
Reading and comprehension at it's finest. If only half of it is true, as you typical goverment shill types would have to prove other wise the information in this video was not true, you moron. I did not indicate that 50% was no true, imbecile, learn to READ.

By the way did you ever watched it back in the day or now? Don't bother, we already know the answer. But keep trying.

You goverment sheeple are just too easy to make fun of.



Didnt you ever think that its the Conspiracy theorists that are the "sheeple" after all the government has got you running around pointing and shouting about a conspiracy by leaving just enough doubt to keep you interested.

If you were a free thinker you would think for yourself.

Me, i couldn't give a fuck if George Bush singlehandedly masterminded the entire thing.

Who fucking cares, you cant do anything about it.