Author Topic: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?  (Read 212417 times)

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1275 on: May 13, 2016, 07:10:46 PM »
So watch what you back, bros.  Be careful what you endorse.

The thing is I'm not endorsing anything regardless of the points I have pointed out in this thread like how the 15 floors could have brought the rest of 95 floors to the ground, the only reason I had heated arguments is because Ozmo and Ropo came into the thread like the typical Government shills to troll this thread. But at this point after all the information and videos I posted it's already clear what happened.

 9/11 was the mother of all false flag operation to use this country  for different goals. The CIA and our military as the cover arm of multinational corporations defending American interest abroad, example Afghanistan with the drug trade(Oxycotton, pharma), laundering drug money through and for the banks and the pipe that they wanted to run through the country for gas and all the exotic mineral need it for electronic and lithium batteries.

 Iraq serve two purposes, the Neocons with the military industrial complex and the Zionist in destabilizing the Middle East,  pitting Muslims(Shia and Sunni) against each other while sending their countries decades back and Israel ready to expand and  go in there with their multinational corporations and take it all.


Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1276 on: May 13, 2016, 07:14:30 PM »
The thing is I'm not endorsing anything regardless of the points I have pointed out in this thread like how the 15 floors could have brought the rest of 95 floors to the ground, the only reason I had heated arguments is because Ozmo and Ropo came into the thread like the typical Government shills to troll this thread. But at this point after all the information and videos I posted it's already clear what happened.

 9/11 was the mother of all false flag operation to use this country  for different goals. The CIA and our military as the cover arm of multinational corporations defending American interest abroad, example Afghanistan with the drug trade(Oxycotton, pharma), laundering drug money through and for the banks and the pipe that they wanted to run through the country for gas and all the exotic mineral need it for electronic and lithium batteries.

 Iraq serve two purposes, the Neocons with the military industrial complex and the Zionist in destabilizing the Middle East,  pitting Muslims(Shia and Sunni) against each other while sending their countries decades back and Israel ready expand and  go in there with their multinational corporations and take it all.



No, you generally do well, actually.  From what I've seen.

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1277 on: May 13, 2016, 07:24:45 PM »
9/11-Case Closed: Watch all the videos, put the information together, follow the links, read the information, believe what you want. All that is left is to open an official investigation from the Government to put the perpetrators in jail in order to get our country back.

9/11-- The New Pearl Harbor (FULL)

911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed!

CHRISTOPHER BOLLYN EXPLAINS WITH FACTS WHY AND HOW ISRAEL DID 9-11

Dimitri Khalezov has been an expert in nuclear demolition

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1278 on: May 13, 2016, 07:55:33 PM »
Pentagon Employee Witness Says There Was No Plane on 9-11-2001!



Listen carefully, chilling recalling of the incident.

lilhawk1

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1279 on: May 13, 2016, 07:56:58 PM »
That's the thing, once the second plane hit, they were talking about a terrorists attack all over the news, so you are going to tell me the best and most defended building in the United States got exposed like that specially having an air defense system? 45 min? When it takes 10 to 15 min to scramble jet fighters?

The best part is that not only did the officer in charged that day did not get demoted or fired in the military, they got promoted. Talking about an inside job. But according to certain individual here it was all coincidence.

Who was responsible for these “failures” and who got promoted?

One major failure was the fact that none of aircraft involved in the attacks were intercepted, despite routine procedure.  On 9/11, according to Laura Brown of the FAA, “Within minutes after the first aircraft hit the World Trade Center, the FAA immediately established several phone bridges that included FAA field facilities, the FAA Command Center, FAA headquarters, DOD [meaning the NMCC in the Department of Defense], the Secret Service… The US Air Force liaison to the FAA immediately joined the FAA headquarters phone bridge and established contact with NORAD… The FAA shared real-time information on the phone bridges about the unfolding events, including information about loss of communication with aircraft, loss of transponder signals, unauthorized changes in course, and other actions being taken by all the flights of interest.”[12]

http://arabesque911.blogspot.nl/2007/11/911-incompetence-sabotage-and.html#_edn10


Here's another interesting tidbit.  Up until June 2001, the power to give the order to shoot down a civilian aircraft was always in the hands of military generals.  In June 2001, Donald Rumsfeld took that power from them and gave it to guess who?  None other than Dick Cheney... 3 months before 9/11.  He was given the power to order a civilian jet to be shot down, or to stand down and not shoot it down....just another coincidence I suppose..

Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1280 on: May 13, 2016, 08:45:54 PM »
Here's another interesting tidbit.  Up until June 2001, the power to give the order to shoot down a civilian aircraft was always in the hands of military generals.  In June 2001, Donald Rumsfeld took that power from them and gave it to guess who?  None other than Dick Cheney... 3 months before 9/11.  He was given the power to order a civilian jet to be shot down, or to stand down and not shoot it down....just another coincidence I suppose..

Could you give more info or a link?

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1281 on: May 13, 2016, 08:59:07 PM »
This video takes the cake, apparently the Pentagon had spent years looking for Osama Bin Laden and couldn't find him, low and behold a reporter and his camera crew from CNN goes to Afghanistan, finds him,

interviews Bin Laden and his top leadership on June, 28 of 2001, they come back and warns the public that he(Bin Laden) plans to attack America in 3 week, you just can't make this shit up, if this does not tell you that Bin

Laden was a CIA cover agent, than you would believe anything the Government tells you. This is beyond fiction. Remember "el chapo"  interview with Sean Penn, and later he got capture? You can not tell me the CIA

couldn't have spoken to the CNN crew, localize Bin Laden and help the military to take him out. How much  bullshit is the goverment made of?

The most dangerous 911 video ever!



lilhawk1

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1282 on: May 13, 2016, 09:26:54 PM »
Could you give more info or a link?

Here you go:

Simple Simon

  • Guest
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1283 on: May 13, 2016, 11:08:04 PM »
Pentagon Employee Witness Says There Was No Plane on 9-11-2001!



Listen carefully, chilling recalling of the incident.

Bitter ex -employee sacked for incompetence speaks out.

Lol, no evidence that anything hit the building, it was an explosion, so, she doesnt back the missile theory then?

Ropo

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 2895
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1284 on: May 13, 2016, 11:24:03 PM »
Ropo, you do not bring anything new to the discussion, Ozmo tried, but like always, I already OWNED him right away, you? You are just some bothersome loser too stupid to understand that you are not wanted here or anywhere in Getbig anymore, got it?

Make it interesting, create good posts presenting new evidence that supports the official goverment side so I can debunk it, ok? Not long paragraphs regurgitating what we already cover.

Until then



Dear child: All I have to do is point out the fact that there wasn't any explosions at the WTC towers, and that you can't prove shit about that crap you use to fill this thread, and by doing that I show what a moron you are. That is all what I have to do, because you are totally incompetent retard what comes to presenting evidence. All you have is futile foil hat crap, nothing more, and everybody see that. Blind faith keep you going, and that is synonym for stupidity  ;D

See you after 10 more pages of that crap you are throwing, you see, the real people has some other things to do in their life than sit here ranting some completely ridiculous foil hat theory. You don't have any life at all, no friends, nothing else to do, so you spend here 24/7 like a moron. I take a peek once and a while, and prove your stupidity because it doesn't be any effort at all. Have a nice weekend, stupid  ;D

The Abdominal Snoman

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 23503
  • DON'T BE A TRAITOR TO YOUR TRIBE
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1285 on: May 13, 2016, 11:28:08 PM »
Watched an old Doc on the Manhattan Project. American's research and development of nuclear weapons. Of the over 125,000 people who worked on this project, no one ever leaked what was going on there. In fact, only a few dozen even knew what was really going on. It wasn't until American dropped two bombs on Japan that the people who worked there now knew what they helped create. That's why you have to laugh when people say there has to be hundreds if not thousands of people who would be in on 9/11 and know about it. The Manhattan Project tells us the exact opposite. It tells us that keeping a secret, a massive secret, is pretty easy for any Government...

Simple Simon

  • Guest
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1286 on: May 13, 2016, 11:30:32 PM »
Watched an old Doc on the Manhattan Project. American's research and development of nuclear weapons. Of the over 125,000 people who worked on this project, no one ever leaked what was going on there. In fact, only a few dozen even knew what was really going on. It wasn't until American dropped two bombs on Japan that the people who worked there now knew what they helped create. That's why you have to laugh when people say there has to be hundreds if not thousands of people who would be in on 9/11 and know about it. The Manhattan Project tells us the exact opposite. It tells us that keeping a secret, a massive secret, is pretty easy for any Government...
so 125,000 worked on something they didnt know they were working on?

I know Americans are pretty dumb but even thats not possible.

lilhawk1

  • Getbig IV
  • ****
  • Posts: 1083
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1287 on: May 14, 2016, 05:50:27 AM »
Still waiting for one of the government shills here to prove that WTC 7 did not fall at free fall speed into its own footprint.  Good luck....The laws of physics still stand, even for that day believe it or not.. The 3rd building that day to defy the laws of physics.  Tell you what, we should be very afraid that at any time the laws of physics can possibly be suspended on any given day....what the hell are we going to do?

Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1288 on: May 14, 2016, 10:40:21 AM »
Something worth mentioning again (others already have) is that it is stunning to realize the plane was going that fast, and that low, without a trace to say it even touched the ground.  That is really crazy.  The left wing is said to have been clipped by the ground and lost before the building, but that must have happened in the fire area.


Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1289 on: May 14, 2016, 10:46:33 AM »
Here you go:


Yeah, I'll check this out.

OzmO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1290 on: May 14, 2016, 11:56:39 AM »
Still waiting for one of the government shills here to prove that WTC 7 did not fall at free fall speed into its own footprint.  Good luck....The laws of physics still stand, even for that day believe it or not.. The 3rd building that day to defy the laws of physics.  Tell you what, we should be very afraid that at any time the laws of physics can possibly be suspended on any given day....what the hell are we going to do?

Of course it doesn't mean anything.  Let's start with just one piece of evidence that proves the entire thing was an inside job... WTC 7 fell into its own footprint in 6.5 seconds.....FREE FALL SPEED... Explain that... Explain how the laws of physics were temporarily suspended that day..this one piece of evidence proves the entire bullshit story of the 9/11 commission is a farce.  There was no resistance from the floors below, which means, controlled demo..look up photos of other building collapses due to structural failure... There is never a total and complete collapse.. It's always asymmetrical and a partial collapse.  This is not even debatable...It never happens.  Compare how that building fell, and how buildings fall in controlled demo.... Exact same.

Let’s start with “WTC 7 fell into its own footprint”

WTC 7 did not fall into it’s own footprint.

WTC site plan:


If it fell on to its own foot print the Verison Building would not be damaged:




Nor would there be damage to Filterman hall,



Nor damage to the building north of WTC 7 with  the terrace


Conclusion:  Footprint argument=debunked

Next:
“6.5 seconds.....FREE FALL SPEED”  (I am assuming you think it shouldn’t have looked like it went down all at once.)
It pancaked.  Think of the steel beams as connected straws that crumple.  The steel beams weaken, to the weight above and buckle providing no resistance until it came to non-buckled beams on the lower floors. (Steel loses its strength when heated) Large chunks of WTC 7 were damaged. (I can post those pics if you want, they are available on the net as well as fireman statements to that regard)   Hence it looks as though it all comes down at once.  but it came down in stages.  Look closely at the video and you will see the 3:58 Mark it doesn’t come down all at once, the Penthouse on the left goes first, supporting the report that the floors failed imploding the building.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnLcUxV1dPo

Conclusion:  Freefall speed argument debunked

Quote
Explain that... Explain how the laws of physics were temporarily suspended that day..this one piece of evidence proves the entire bullshit story of the 9/11 commission is a farce.  There was no resistance from the floors below, which means, controlled demo..look up photos of other building collapses due to structural failure... There is never a total and complete collapse.. It's always asymmetrical and a partial collapse.  This is not even debatable...It never happens.  Compare how that building fell, and how buildings fall in controlled demo.... Exact same

The rest of this is an assumption based on pre conceived belief without a legitimate knowledge base.  

I totally agree with you that it very similar to a demolition.  However, many things can look like one thing but be something entirely different.  Once the facts are brought to bear the reality is revealed.

Additionally,  lets say none of my above arguments are valid, you are still left a video only and no other evidence that it was prewired and demolished.  And if it was prewired, it would be stupid to think that it didn’t explode much sooner when it caught fire, burned for hours and was severely damaged.

OzmO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1291 on: May 14, 2016, 12:02:06 PM »





Again we are clearly agreed on news stations getting things wrong.

Only they didn't get it wrong - They Broadcast a Building as being Collapsed 20 mins before it did Fall Down.



They got it wrong because the building hadn't collapse when they reported it did.

Quote
Again your with the CT thing -- I explained my Thoughts.

It's a relevant question & requires a clear answer.

You Stated to another Poster You would Explain & Clear up anything they asked 1 at a time.

I asked 7 Questions & you haven't Been Able to Satisfactorily answer 1 -- The easiest one according to you.

Clearly it is not that easy.

My answer is not satisfactory to you.  Its common sense.  Telling a news organization to report a building collapsed when you were going to collapse anyway is pointless.

Your WTC 7 question is being answered in another discussion in the above post.

At some point i will get to your other ones (from discussions from other posters), but seeing from your reaction at my attempt at answering the mistaken news report it might be a waste of time.  The false new report can't even be identified as a smoking gun for common sense reasons and you and I can't seem to agree on that.

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1292 on: May 14, 2016, 03:00:43 PM »
 Buildign 7


[imghttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6sorPn8ncatC5EVOf iS79DmoYPJ2JpTndYdMkv5qJ qDuvVK-_]http://[/img]
Look closey whrere building 7 was and the Deutsche bank is. Black building to the left of twin towers,



 
Exposing Ozmo, my business. ;D

M4tad0r

  • Getbig III
  • ***
  • Posts: 404
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1293 on: May 14, 2016, 03:04:48 PM »
They got it wrong because the building hadn't collapse when they reported it did.

My answer is not satisfactory to you.  Its common sense.  Telling a news organization to report a building collapsed when you were going to collapse anyway is pointless.

Your WTC 7 question is being answered in another discussion in the above post.

At some point i will get to your other ones (from discussions from other posters), but seeing from your reaction at my attempt at answering the mistaken news report it might be a waste of time.  The false new report can't even be identified as a smoking gun for common sense reasons and you and I can't seem to agree on that.

How could they have guess or get wrong that the Solomon building was coming down in 20 mins before it did, unless the order was given to demolish such building?

This is a common sense answer. Not the tin foil hat bullshit fed to you by the Government. Ask any detective which version would make sense in a investigation, come back here with the answer.

Thank you in advance. ;D

chaos

  • Moderator
  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 59461
  • Ron "There is no freedom of speech here" Avidan
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1294 on: May 14, 2016, 03:15:55 PM »
 ???

Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

OzmO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1295 on: May 14, 2016, 03:16:14 PM »
Buildign 7


[imghttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS6sorPn8ncatC5EVOf iS79DmoYPJ2JpTndYdMkv5qJ qDuvVK-_]http://[/img]
Look closey whrere building 7 was and the Deutsche bank is. Black building to the left of twin towers,



 
Exposing Ozmo, my business. ;D


Doesn't refute anything i said, zero.

however here is another classic example of flawed logic from CT'ers



this pic suggests that because these other buildings didn't collapse from fire that WTC 7 shouldn't have.

This is the same thinking as that pot head from loose change.

And educated person or a person with common sense would immediately ask:

Were the conditions of the buildings that didn't collapse exactly the same as the conditions of WTC 7?

In other words....

Where they designed the same?  steel beam structure?  # of stories? etc.

Where they damaged by falling debris from a 110 story skyscraper that was damaged (fire fighter reported) 33% percent or more?






OzmO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1296 on: May 14, 2016, 03:17:55 PM »
How could they have guess or get wrong that the Solomon building was coming down in 20 mins before it did, unless the order was given to demolish such building?

This is a common sense answer. Not the tin foil hat bullshit fed to you by the Government. Ask any detective which version would make sense in a investigation, come back here with the answer.

Thank you in advance. ;D

It would make no sense to inform a news station that a building went down when it hadn't yet and you going were make sure it went down anyway.

This is as far from a smoking gun as anything could be.


OzmO

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 22846
  • Drink enough Kool-aid and you'll think its healthy
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1297 on: May 14, 2016, 03:27:43 PM »
???



Classic example of some idiot kid who thinks he knows something but his own words exposes him to be wanna be hack.

"you'd still have the plane sticking out at that point"

text book case of ignorance perhaps one of the dumbest people i have seen on a vid.  

he needs to take another bong hit and crawl back in his hole.

and then it shows the desperation of truthers to bend facts to sway people to their side.  Typical, same as "Bush said their was explosives int he WTC and 19 goat herders."

Planes disintegrating on impact:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Iranian_Air_Force_C-130_crash





http://www.nbcnews.com/id/10346431/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/iranian-military-plane-hits-building-killing/#.VzNf54QrKUk

Where is the c-130?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZjhxuhTmGk



http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/23/world/europe/23plane.html?_r=0



http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/11/02/don-t-believe-russian-airline-s-new-excuse-for-crash.html

f-4 crashing into wall


Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1298 on: May 14, 2016, 04:34:27 PM »
Here's another interesting tidbit.  Up until June 2001, the power to give the order to shoot down a civilian aircraft was always in the hands of military generals.  In June 2001, Donald Rumsfeld took that power from them and gave it to guess who?  None other than Dick Cheney... 3 months before 9/11.  He was given the power to order a civilian jet to be shot down, or to stand down and not shoot it down....just another coincidence I suppose..

This may be off.  There's info to say that Cheney was in charge of "training, war games and drills" and that he had a hand in creating all the confusion which caused ATC and others to keep asking whether the attacks were "real world" and whether they should act accordingly.  I don't have all the information on Cheney's involvement with that, though.  But I think some of those people to this day are still confused about whether the particular thing they were dealing with on 9/11 was a drill or part of a real attack.

I know about the Mineta testimony, however, so maybe this is connected with what you mean.  An interesting story which came out long after 9/11, is that the military claims to have ignored -- not refused: they ignored -- an order by Cheney, due to it being outside the chain of command.  As if Cheney, who was previously a Defense Secretary himself, didn't know that would happen.

So there you have it.  That's what the those particular criminals were up to.

Las Vegas

  • Getbig V
  • *****
  • Posts: 7423
  • ! Repent or Perish !
Re: rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?
« Reply #1299 on: May 14, 2016, 04:40:04 PM »
Anyone who hasn't seen what Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta claims happened while he was with Cheney on 9/11, should look at it.