rare 9/11 footage, how was this unseen for so long?

[M4tad0r]

He recanted his story because to him it was clear the terrorists killed the passenger. What?

How that fuck could he come to that conclusion if he did not see a drop of blood? Other than been told the story to which he had adhere to. Does that video makes sense to you now?

Do you get how he's lying and how easy he got exposed?

Kinda like how we are exposing you.

[OzmO]

He recanted his story because to him it was clear the terrorists killed the passenger. What?

How that fuck would he could come to that conclusion if he did not see a drop of blood? Other than been told the story to which he had adhere to. Does that video makes sense to you now?

Do you get how he's lying and how easy he got exposed?

Kinda like how we are exposing you.

we?



HASHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH


the grand conspiracy!!!!!!!!!!


ROTFLMAO!

[OzmO]

Shanksville Coroner: No Bodies Found at 9/11 'Crash' Site

Wallace Miller is the coroner of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. He was among the first people to arrive at the alleged Flight 93 crash site on the morning of 9/11.

He later recounted to the Washington Post what he’d seen when he first got there:

“I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

Since there were 44 people on board Flight 93, a crash site with “no bodies” makes no sense. Where were the victims? Something appears to have been seriously wrong. Yet Miller now seems to dispute his earlier claim.

In the recent BBC documentary 9/11: The Conspiracy Files, he explained:


“I said that I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was gonna be.

"This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop."

It was a plane crash but yet it was a homicide because the terrorists hijacked the plane and killed the people, and the terrorists committed suicide.

http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

Wallace E Miller Wally Miller Original 9/11 Interviews

[M4tad0r]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!


The Man Who Declared Having Studied 9/11 for 9-10 years and been debunking CT's for another 9 years.

What a  Goverment Dick Rider Shill!!!



According To Him Everything that Happened on 9/11: "So What, Coincidence"

Ozmo "The Legend On His Own Mind"

That's what you have been doing this whole time: Getting Exposed!!!

Man up & shut da fuck up!!!

All you been doing is getting:

[M4tad0r]

9/11 - Flight 93 Was, in fact, Shot Down?

When things doesn't add up.

[Colossus_1986]

No one knew that's the point.  It was mistaken report by BBC.  Its a non issue because "if" they were going to demolish it anyway there would be no need to give BBC the report.


No, its common sense and reality.  The 99.9% of architects and engineers are saying so.  Main stream science is saying so.  In every field of science there are crack pots with degrees. The fact that not one good argument has been made by these crackpots that can be argued in a court to cause a motion to open a case has been made says it all.  There is nothing tangible they have argued in 15 years.   You don't need to be smart to figure this out.
No what they found was iron micro spheres as evidence of thermite and those are present in WTC becuase Iron Micro-spheres form from condensed vaporized iron or from molten iron. You can melt iron by igniting it with a Bic lighter, if the pieces of iron are thin enough.  There are several other sources of iron microspheres.  Iron microspheres were expected in the WTC dust

You have never seen a building burn.  Things explode causing a loud pop that is common mistaken for a bomb going off.   Such as: Hot water heater, Food storage containers with spoiled food, Light bulb, soda or beer bottles (i have done this camping, very loud), any C02 spray can, fire extinguishers, Boilers, cathode ray tubes (computer monitors) etc.

How this whole thing transpired and why our air defense system was compromised is very complex.    


What do you think was the resolution, frame rate and focal point of those cameras?  That's why.  Video isn't needed to prove a plane hit the pentagon.

Not in the context of the debate of whether or not the Pentagon was hit by a missile or the WTC were demolished.



I don't deny the possibility of some people being underfunded, but i do question whether it was for truther reasons.  however there have been many other people in universities who have done their own analysis and provided their conclusions from MIT, Northwestern, purdue, etc.   The problem here for truthers is that nothing tangible has ever been found.

Contingent what ever would cause the need for this plan.  Just because some loony tune made a plan like this and his co-horts who are also probably loony neo cons fell in line with it doesn't mean the Government commit the act.  Point is there are plans for everything.  
  
I know its not classified, you don't think military does shit like this all the time?


Not true, but enough to embellish that story the way you laid it out.  They were receiving bomb threats prior to 9/11 and after a couple of weeks of bomb sniffing dogs combing the Building they were removed.
http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_bomb_sniffing_dogs.html
And there were at least this dog there:  http://www.novareinna.com/bridge/sirius.html

the tower in Blackout  on WTC 2 above floor 50 on 9/8-9 for a cabling upgrade by IT.



  
I am curious about this, maybe you have a link?



the people who designed the building said they didn't take into account fuel load.   "Leslie Robertson, one of the chief engineers working on the design of the World Trade Center, has since said he personally considered the scenario of the impact of a Boeing 707 or another jet airliner, which might be lost in the fog and flying at relatively low speeds while seeking to land at JFK Airport or Newark Airport. However, in an interview with the BBC, Robertson states, "with the 707, the fuel load was not considered in the design, I don't know how it could have been considered."[10][11]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collapse_of_the_World_Trade_Center

http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

[OzmO]

http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

He put his remarks back into context here. 

[M4tad0r]

Faye Hahn, an EMT, responded to the first reports of the crash. She says: “Several trees were burned badly and there were papers everywhere. We searched. … I was told that there were 224 passengers, but later found out that there were actually forty. I was stunned. There was nothing there.” (David McCall, From Tragedy to Triumph, 2002, pp. 31-32)

Despite this absence of human remains at the Flight 93 crash scene, the Washington Post reported:

“The 33 passengers, seven crew and four hijackers together weighed roughly 7,000 pounds. … Hundreds of searchers who climbed the hemlocks and combed the woods for weeks [after 9/11] were able to find about 1,500 mostly scorched samples of human tissue totaling less than 600 pounds, or about 8 percent of the total.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

By December 19, 2001, “the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers” had all been identified. (Steve Levin, “Flight 93 victims’ effects to go back to families,” Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 12/30/2001)


http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

[M4tad0r]

Just came across this video which could explain the pentagon as well:

9/11: How the Shanksville crater was made

The AGM-158 JASSM (Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile) is a low observable standoff air-launched cruise missile developed in the United States. It is a large, semi-stealthy long-range weapon of the 2,000 pounds (910 kg) class. The missile's development began in 1995, but a number of problems during testing delayed its introduction into service until 2009. As of 2014, the JASSM has entered foreign service in Australia and Finland, and been ordered by Poland. An extended range version of the missile, the AGM-158B JASSM-ER (Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile-Extended Range), entered service in 2014.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM

The JASSM is a conventionally armed, low observable cruise missile designed to destroy the enemy's high-value targets from aircraft that can be launched from outside the area defenses. The missile has automatic target recognition, autonomous guidance, precision accuracy, and a J-1000 warhead optimized for penetration and carrying a new high-yield explosive. These characteristics give JASSM capabilities against heavily defended hard targets such as aircraft shelters and underground command posts, as well as soft targets such as rail yards.

http://www.dyess.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet_print.asp?fsID=17954&page=1

[Colossus_1986]

Points for the colossus reference

[M4tad0r]

9/11 Pentagon Reality Check 6: eyewitness Officer WILLIAM LAGASSE

Compare minute 1:16                                                                                           minute 1:27

[M4tad0r]

Points for the colossus reference

[Ropo]

Hey Ropo how much would you charge me for the demolition on the buildings in the picture below, they are in Chicago, and I need it done by Friday on the cheap.

How much to light them up on fires so they would come down into their own footprint? You can damage as many core columns as you wish, but no explosives, ok? I need them to go down as silently as possible. Thank you in advance.

First you need couple of Boeing 767 filled with 20 tons of jet fuel. Then you need couple of suicide pilots who fly the planes to the buildings, and there you go. Every other way to do it take months of preparations by the group of ~50 professionals , tons of explosives and kilometers of detonation cord. Of course all this is common knowledge, which means you don't know it because you are an imbecile..

[Ropo]

When you can't argue facts misdirect the conversation. Typical Government Dick Rider Shill tactic 102; 101 been: Everything that happened on 9/11: Coincidence.

So when I do once what you do all the time it is somehow bad thing to do? All you ever need to do is prove those explosion in some 9/11 video, and this piece of information is only which is missing from this thread, which is 61 pages long? Every time I ask you to prove it, the answer is just bullshit not even near the subject. I can't argue facts because you don't have any, so what I did was pointing out yet another way to prove you are just an idiot. I didn't do it for you, I did it for other people who read this thread and understand what they read. When it is evident that you are just a moron, they know that you are complete harmless and know how to react your ranting. That's all, little child, so when we will see your evidence about the explosions? Why don't we talk about that, because it is a vital detail which is missing and unproved in your theory? Why don't you want to talk about that? BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL. Simple truth 

[Ropo]

He keeps ignoring the steel columns that were cut at perfect angles for the tops to slide off the bottoms

Who me? I don't ignore them, because I know the story about them, and I know that those were cut after the collapse, because it is evident to anyone who have a brains. Just link the photo if you dare, and I explain it to you.

[Ropo]

I've just got to ask.  What evidence says those 45-degree cuts weren't done after the fact?  It would be rather bold to think the FD wouldn't be going apeshit about it, if those angles appeared that way untouched post-disaster.

None. In fact pictures prove that the cuts were done after the  collapse, when they were dismantle the pile of rubbish after the collapse to find bodies. Don't tell anybody, it is a secret, but after the biggest collapse of the history of mankind, those columns which were cut, were complete dustless. After the catastrophe, after bunch of collapsed buildings which covered whole manhattan under the inches of dust, those columns were squeaky-clean.  It makes me wonder...

And if I remember correct, there is even a picture with a wider point of view, where you actually see guys doing these cuts, so it is safe to say that the claim is just another piece of foil hat  bullshit. They used acetylene torches and thermal lances to do that work, and those lances could be by far the best explanation to the finds of Niels Harrit, because they use similar fuel than so called thermite.

[calfzilla]

Shanksville Coroner: No Bodies Found at 9/11 'Crash' Site

Wallace Miller is the coroner of Somerset County, Pennsylvania. He was among the first people to arrive at the alleged Flight 93 crash site on the morning of 9/11.

He later recounted to the Washington Post what he’d seen when he first got there:

“I stopped being coroner after about 20 minutes, because there were no bodies there. It became like a giant funeral service.” (Peter Perl, “Hallowed Ground,” Washington Post, 5/12/2002)

Since there were 44 people on board Flight 93, a crash site with “no bodies” makes no sense. Where were the victims? Something appears to have been seriously wrong. Yet Miller now seems to dispute his earlier claim.

In the recent BBC documentary 9/11: The Conspiracy Files, he explained:


“I said that I stopped being a coroner after about 20 minutes because it was perfectly clear what the cause and manner of death was gonna be.

"This is the most eerie thing. I have not, to this day, seen a single drop of blood. Not a drop."

It was a plane crash but yet it was a homicide because the terrorists hijacked the plane and killed the people, and the terrorists committed suicide.

http://humansarefree.com/2015/03/shanksville-coroner-no-bodies-found-at.html

Wallace E Miller Wally Miller Original 9/11 Interviews

A jet slammed into the ground next to my buddies grandparents house back in the 70s and there were several in-tact bodies and even some survivors.

[Ropo]

You guys who are glued to the popular conspiracy shit, should realize that it is designed to keep you from the truth.  It's even worse than the conspiracy of the official story, in many ways.

In fact, it is quite serious, because there is a study about the foil hat behavior, and it reveals quite a sad truth: These idiots are by far the dumbest parts of the human race, and they have this in build mechanism which prevents all learning. They factually can adopt only the information which supports their prejudices, so they are literally just morons. You can't do anything to change their point of view, they go through the life without learning anything. In few years there will be study which concludes that it is in fact a mental illness, because there is no way that that level of idiotism would be possible in the normal brains. Hologram aero planes, pulverized steel, invisible explosions, implosions by missile and all that ridiculous crap just proves what kind of morons they are, because up to this  day, they have 0 evidence about all that.

[Ropo]

Hey Ozmo serious question:

The 9/11 commision came out with the conclusion on the twin towers faster than WTC 7, just because they got hit by airplanes, right?

It only took the commission 2 years to conclude that 2 of the tallest buildings in the world came down into it's own footprint in seconds because two planes crash into them, but took the goverment 7 years to come out with the final conclusion on WTC 7 because no plane hit the building.

Does this seem normal to you?

What part you didn't understand? They just study facts, not fairytales, so conclusions were simple. That what the evidence proved to happen, happen. Case closed. Only morons try to find other explanations to the things which are proved, and they are called the foil hat morons. Do you know what the "reasonable doubt" means? When it is simplified down to the level of morons, it means just that IF you have the evidence which prove that there is "REASONABLE DOUBT" against the official report, it need to be investigate. Just present me that evidence of yours, which with no doubt at all proves that official investigation was false? Never seen one, and never will see even one. Case closed...

[Ropo]

And does that makes sense to you? You don't see any holes in their statements? Like they tried to search for explanations that would adapt to their theory(The buildings came down due to fire), instead of looking and gathering evidence and then coming up with the theory? I'm been serious here also.

Due to fire, due to airplanes, due to collapsing buildings and why are you talking about evidence while you don't have any? Try to learn the word "counterevidence". You can't prove fuck, there is 61 pages which proves that simple matter, so why all that whining? Why don't you prove there was explosion at the twin towers for starters? Why we never see that happen? Instead that whining, try to explain that?

[Ropo]

Quite honestly I have done with trying to debate / get answers from you,
For the time being.

You were the one making a Bold Statement to another poster Saying You Could Explain / Prove The
Official story Was True.
Yet you clearly cannot, and not just my questions other posters questions also.

The Delusion that you Believe you Have Answered / Explained The questions is indicative of your self righteous State of mind.

As For Calling You A Village Idiot, Yes Me Name calling you, As you so Quickly resort to Name calling every one else, you not so Keen when it is You being called Names.

Truth is I do think of you as an idiot, Though Not Thick or particularly Stupid -- You come across as a Idiot / Fool with your Gradose attitude. And Empty Answers.

As for Your Self Sanctifiying attitude & Answers
You are a Legend in your own Mind.

No Doubt others will entertain dealing with you, they have more patience than me or do it to continually show you up.. That's Just To Easy & Has Lost its Novelty.

Good Day.

Official investigation is proved to be truth, period. There isn't even single evidence which would rise a reasonable doubt against it, because all what foil hats have is lies, rumors and bullshit, ridiculous and all sort of bullshit. Just read the thread from the beginning, or any other conspiracy thread from the another area. All you see is that bullshit, page after page, but not even one evidence. That's why official report remains to be a fact, and foil hats remains to be a morons 

[Ropo]

Ok, I can respect your opinion, and that's all good, you have your beliefs, end of story, you keep your attacks to your self and we will keep this civil.

But I would like you to watch this video and put the information in contest with the USA and the Middle East, and give me you personal opinion on it:

Child with the blind faith is talking about the beliefs? Just fuck off, you moron. As I have pointed out time after time, you don't have even a single evidence to prove any of this  fairy tale you are believing, while whole official report is based on true life evidence. You can't prove even the explosions which start the "conspiracy", and if something is lame, that is it. Aren't you shame because you can't prove even that? You should be, because it proves that you have a blind faith towards the tale which doesn't include any kind of evidence in it. That is handbook definition of stupidity in its clearest form 

[Ropo]

Well back to 9/11:

  Aside from showing the clear details of the North Tower's complete pulverization during collapse, this video also clearly displays details of the pulverization of the remaining steel spear visible to the right that was missed by the Tower's top falling downwards and was pulverized under its own pressure a few seconds later (pulverization of the steel spear is clearly seen after the passing by of a truck). This footage leaves no doubt that the steel structure of the Tower was reduced to complete microscopic dust. The pattern of collapse of the heavy and undamaged Tower's top clearly shows that nothing solid remained under it, except for complete, fluffy steel dust.

I am lost of words, so just fuck of, you moron. Normally, people who have blown out more than a half of their brains with the 44 magnum, would have enough living brain cells to understand that steel doesn't pulverize in the thin air by any kind of weapon, miracle etc. If USA would have such powers, would there be Russia? North Korea? It is a true shame to walk on same planet than morons like you are.

[Ropo]

Biggest lie to date, lying Ozmo still saying the buildings did not come down into it's own footprint, now me know who's the pot head here.

The only flaw logic is yours, like trying to slander the the guy who wanted to recreate 9/11, the creators of loose change and now this, HAHAHAH, nice try patsy.

TWIN TOWERS
                                   TWIN TOWERS
                                                 WTC 7
                                                        WTC 7
                                    WTC 7
                      WTC 7

So their footprint was 14.6-acre? Quite large, while the real footprint was like 1/3 of that..

[Ropo]

My visual evidence beats your lies every time, Fact.

The moment you star lying, the truce is over, trying to slander people left and right like the patsy you are, I'm going to call you out on your bullshit, end of story.

But they did on 9/11. We all see were you are going with YOUR flaw logic, lol.

What evidence? You present merely opinions, and public domain photos/videos, so where is the evidence? In the claims you make? You really don't know the difference between claim and the fact? You see there what you see just because of the blind faith of yours, but no one can see what you see inside your sick head.