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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2018, 10:45:49 AM »
Thank you Pocahontas.

Warren: I’ll serve my full Senate term if reelected
By LAUREN DEZENSKI 04/05/2018

DORCHESTER, Mass. — Elizabeth Warren said she would serve her full six-year term in the Senate if reelected in November.

“Yes, that’s my plan. I’m running for the United States Senate in 2018,” Warren told reporters Thursday, when asked if she would commit to serving out her full term. “I am not running for president of the United States. That’s my plan.”

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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/05/warren-pledges-full-senate-term-2018-505308

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #51 on: April 16, 2018, 11:04:34 AM »
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
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by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2018, 11:05:58 AM »
Sen. Cory Booker Violating Constitution: Voting Against Pompeo for Religious Beliefs
by KEN KLUKOWSKI
15 Apr 2018
Washington, DC

WASHINGTON, DC – Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) announced on Friday that he will vote against CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s nomination to become secretary of state because of Pompeo’s beliefs on marriage and sexuality — beliefs consistent with Pompeo’s Christian faith. Conservative leaders are now denouncing Booker’s vote as a violation of the Constitution’s Religious Test Clause.

Booker sharply questioned Pompeo on Thursday during the nominee’s confirmation hearing before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, referring to words Pompeo spoke at a church in his district when the current director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) was still serving in the U.S. House of Representatives.
 
Pompeo has also supported efforts to defend marriage as the union between one man and one woman. Those beliefs are consistent with mainstream Christian beliefs.

Booker announced on Facebook late Friday that he will vote against Pompeo, saying that the former congressmen’s religious beliefs on these issues make him unfit to serve in federal office representing the United States. “I believe you can’t lead the people if you don’t love the people,” Booker wrote. The senator then quotes Bible verses that he thinks Pompeo is not living up to, including references to loving his neighbor.

Article VI of the U.S. Constitution provides, “No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office of public Trust under the United States.”

Conservative and Christian leaders are appalled at Booker’s announcement, saying the Constitution forbids Booker’s voting against Pompeo because of the nominee’s religious beliefs.

“Demanding a loyalty oath to Sen. Booker’s determination of which beliefs are acceptable isn’t what this country is about; indeed, it’s what we fought for independence from,” Tony Perkins, the president of the Family Research Council (FRC), tells Breitbart News. “We should celebrate that we are a nation that not only allows but encourages every American to hold and express their beliefs – including their religious beliefs – without fear of retribution by the government.”

Perkins, whose FRC has launched a petition protesting Booker’s violation of the Religious Test Clause that has 25,000 signatures at the time this article was filed, adds that this principle “is the essence of America and the Constitution.”

“Religious bigotry and discrimination is unacceptable in this country, much less from someone who takes an oath to our Constitution and who is supposed to serve the people of this country,” agrees Kelly Shackelford, president of First Liberty Institute, in an exclusive comment to Breitbart News.

“Sen. Cory Booker questioned Secretary of State-nominee Mike Pompeo for comments he made at his church, comments which reflected long-standing church doctrine regarding homosexual conduct and the biblical definition of marriage,” said Prof. John Eastman, chairman of the National Organization for Marriage (NOM). “And now Sen. Booker asserts that he will oppose Pompeo for those views.”

“This is essentially imposing a religious test on officers of the United States, something explicitly forbidden by Article VI of the Constitution,” added Eastman, whose NOM has likewise launched a petition.

“The American people put President Trump in the White House in part because they refuse to be discriminated against for their long-held, mainstream beliefs,” Trump Transition Team leader Ken Blackwell offers to Breitbart News. “Whether on abortion, marriage, the Bible, the Second Amendment, or other issues, tens of millions of Americans who are wonderful people have been vilified for their beliefs by left-wing elites, and the American people chose a president who will stand up for them.”

Pompeo’s nomination is still pending in the Senate, with committee approval expected shortly but no final floor vote yet scheduled.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/15/sen-booker-violating-constitution-voting-pompeo-religious-beliefs/

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #53 on: May 21, 2018, 09:49:51 AM »
At least he won't have to deal with Clinton cheating him out of the nomination.  And will not surprise me one bit of Democrats nominate an avowed socialist.  He will do down in flames if he is the nominee.

In re-election announcement, Bernie Sanders vows to be Trump's 'fiercest opponent in the Senate'
by Anna Giaritelli
May 21, 2018

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., announced his bid Monday for a third term and aimed to earn more support in the November 2018 election by promising to be President Trump's worst enemy in the Senate.

“Today, I am announcing my intention to run for re-election to the United States Senate in 2018,” Sanders wrote on Twitter.

"These are frightening and unprecedented times. We have a president who is not only a pathological liar, but someone who is trying to win votes by dividing our nation up based on the color of our skin, our country of origin, our religion, our gender or our sexual orientation," he continued. "If reelected, you can be sure that I will continue to be the fiercest opponent in the Senate to the rightwing extremism of Trump and the Republican leadership."

The Independent lawmaker caucuses with the Democratic Party but has endorsed socialist ideas that are far more progressive than those of moderate liberals.

Sanders, who turns 77 years old in September, would be 83 years old at the conclusion of a third term, if elected.

The senator became a household name by challenging Hillary Clinton for the Democrat's 2016 presidential nomination.

The Cook Political Report declared last September Sanders' seat a "solid Democrat."

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/in-re-election-announcement-bernie-sanders-vows-to-be-trumps-fiercest-opponent-in-the-senate

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2018, 11:29:20 AM »
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #55 on: August 01, 2018, 11:33:11 AM »
So far, a steady stream of duds. 

Eric Holder says he's interested in being president. And he thinks he has what it takes
CNN Digital Expansion 2017
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/28/politics/eric-holder-interested-in-being-president/index.html

Eric Holder - HA!!!! 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #56 on: August 01, 2018, 12:44:44 PM »
This hack wants to be president?  Please.

Cory Booker Asks Pompeo About ‘Gay Sex’ Three Times During Hearing
Mike Pompeo, Cory BookerAP Photos
by KRISTINA WONG
12 Apr 2018

Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ) on Thursday made news after repeatedly demanding to know CIA Director Mike Pompeo’s views on gay sex at his confirmation hearing to become Secretary of State.

Booker cited a speech Pompeo gave as a congressman in 2015 at a church, in which he quoted words a pastor had once delivered before the Kansas State Legislature.
 
“America had worshipped other Gods and called it multiculturalism. We’d endorsed perversion and called it an alternative lifestyle,” Pompeo had said.

Booker then repeatedly asked Pompeo: “Is being gay a perversion?”

Pompeo responded that as a politician he had a “very clear view” on whether it was appropriate for two same sex persons to get married. “I stand by that,” he said.

“So you do not think it is appropriate for two gay people to marry?” Booker said.

Pompeo responded, “Senator, I continue to hold that view.”

Booker then suggested that Pompeo’s views would be a problem, saying that he had met people at the State Department in Africa who were in same-sex marriages.

“We have married gay couples at the CIA, you should know, I treated them with the exact same set of rights — ,” Pompeo said before being cut off by Booker repeatedly.

“You believe gay sex is a perversion, yes or no?” Booker demanded, and Pompeo tried to answer. “Yes or no, do you believe that gay sex is a perversion? … Yes or no, do you believe gay sex is a perversion?”

Pompeo said he was going to give him the same answer. “My respect for every individual regardless of their sexual orientation is the same,” he said.

Booker said that as Secretary of State he would be representing America at a time “hate acts” were increasing in the U.S.

The Huffington Post published a story in 2013 that seemed to question Booker’s sexual orientation, citing an interview he gave to the Washington Post:

“Booker, who recently won the Democratic primary for a special upcoming Senate election, is 44 and unmarried and does not speak publicly about his personal life. But, the mayor tells the Washington Post that he doesn’t mind the gay rumors that have bubbled up from time to time during his political career:

“…People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight.’ ”

“This isn’t the first time ‘gay’ and Booker’s name have appeared in the same sentence,” the Huffington Post wrote.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/04/12/cory-booker-asks-pompeo-gay-sex-three-times-hearing/

Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #57 on: August 01, 2018, 01:01:41 PM »
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #58 on: August 01, 2018, 01:58:59 PM »
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   

His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #59 on: August 01, 2018, 02:00:34 PM »
2020 is still a ways off. Nominations for President should start to jell once the primaries are closer. However, this could happen sooner since Trump is currently putting a lot of his time and energy into campaigning for reelection. I believe all politicians should concentrate on doing their jobs at this point. If this puts incumbents at a disadvantage, so be it. Turnover in government can be a positive thing. Currently incumbents are much more likely to win reelection than new nominees.

If he continues to perform as he has the first two years and if the economy remains strong, he will sail to reelection, particularly if Democrats nominate another dud.  But 2020 is a lifetime away in political years.  Lots can happen. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #60 on: August 01, 2018, 02:49:28 PM »
His views on gay marriage are not at issue because they don't have squat to do with his job as Secretary of State. 

The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #61 on: August 01, 2018, 03:09:18 PM »
Pompeo's personal views on gay marriage shouldn't be at issue because in 2015 the US Supreme Court ruled that gay marriage is legal nationwide. If Pompeo discriminates against gay married folks or CIA employees who are in same sex marriages, he'd be breaking the law.   


Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #62 on: August 01, 2018, 03:22:15 PM »
The secretary organizes and supervises the entire department and its staff. Which includes ‎13,000 Foreign Service employees. Should the Secretary of State discriminate against any of these folk because they are gay and/or in a gay marriage. He'll be breaking federal law. -Never said or implied this would happen. He has a right to his personal views and should not be questioned about them at this point.

So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #63 on: August 01, 2018, 03:31:18 PM »

Sometimes the laws are wrong.
I’d support him in discriminating.

I discriminate all the time if I don’t like certain types of people
And truth is likely almost everyone does to some extent.

I’m aware that I’m & friends are discriminated against that’s just
The way of the world.

Deal with it - move on.

I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #64 on: August 01, 2018, 03:38:05 PM »
I don't think there is anything immoral or wrong about anti-discrimination laws.  I'm not a libertarian.  We have rightfully decided as a society that we will not allow certain forms of discrimination in the marketplace (employment, housing, and public accommodations).  That's a good thing.  The problem is we have expanded those protections to things that should not be regulated by the government. 


Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #65 on: August 01, 2018, 04:03:15 PM »

Yes I’d have to say I generally agree with what you said.

My point is People have / do & will continue to discriminate
In one way or another illegal or not they find ways around it.

It’s human nature.

True, although they cannot do it openly.  Like MLK said during the civil rights movement:  you cannot use the law to change people's hearts, but you can use it to control their behavior. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #66 on: August 01, 2018, 05:25:48 PM »
So what?  The Homeland Security Director (and every other department head) supervises an enormous staff.  Their jobs have zero to do with gay marriage.  It was a ridiculous issue for Booker to bring up.  He's a partisan drama queen.  Thank God he will never sniff the White House.  

Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #67 on: August 01, 2018, 05:33:57 PM »
Any person in a supervisory position, be it in public or private employment, has the responsibility to obey the law. In this case, a law which legalized gay marriage. I've already shared my opinion on Booker's questioning any appointees' position on gay matters. It is wrong, unless he has direct knowledge that Pompeo has acted against the law since it was passed and would therefore be likely to disregard it in the future. Pompeo's personal beliefs should not be an issue.

I will not respond further on this matter because you and I are now 'beating a dead horse.'

Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #68 on: August 01, 2018, 05:42:02 PM »
Civil war can't come soon enough.
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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #69 on: August 01, 2018, 05:46:54 PM »
Frankly you're not making a whole lot of sense on this subject.  Not everyone in a "supervisory position" deals with gay marriage.  It's a non-issue in most contexts and definitely as it relates to Pompeo's job as Secretary of State.

And just to clarify, Booker was not asking about Pompeo's "personal beliefs," he was asking about Pompeo's religious beliefs, which is unconstitutional. 

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #70 on: August 01, 2018, 05:48:07 PM »
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Ha, ha. I was just reading something about this today. If the people of U.S. are willing to engage in another shameful civil war, I'm outta here!

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #71 on: August 01, 2018, 05:49:18 PM »
Logic is not the province of polesmokers.

Dead horse.

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Re: Top 15 Democratic presidential candidates in 2020
« Reply #72 on: August 01, 2018, 06:17:55 PM »
Civil war can't come soon enough.

Hyperbole, but not too much.  Definitely a culture war brewing. 

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