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Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« on: April 23, 2017, 09:27:33 PM »
CNN’s Zeleny: ‘The Democratic Bench Is Very, Very Thin’ – Still Trying to Figure Out Who Is the Party’s Heart

On Friday’s broadcast of PBS’ “Washington Week,” CNN Senior White House Correspondent Jeff Zeleny stated Democrats are still trying to figure out who is the party’s beating heart, and that Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) is the party’s “driving force” because he’s filling a vacuum left by the fact that “the Democratic bench is very, very thin.”

Zeleny was asked, “Who is the beating heart of the Democratic Party right now?”

He responded, “It is the central question in all of politics. And Democrats are trying to figure it out, because it’s not — the answer is not what some would like. I mean, Bernie Sanders is still the driving force at the head of the party.”

He added, “Bernie Sanders is going to give the party a lot of trouble in the next couple years. He is still occupying a lot of oxygen that [Senator] Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) thought was hers, that some other Democrats thought was theirs. The reality is, the Democratic bench is very, very thin. Look at the governors, almost nonexistent, the ranks there. State senators, decimated in the Obama years. In the vacuum, Bernie Sanders, in all of his glory, is rising up and loving every minute of it.”

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2017, 09:32:20 PM »
Keith Ellison Blames Obama For Democratic Party Collapse


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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2017, 06:03:42 PM »
It's not really.   It's mainly a competition of who can out-commie he other. 


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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2017, 10:29:32 AM »
It's not really.   It's mainly a competition of who can out-commie he other. 


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how anyone could admit to being a dem these days is beyond me... just look at these fucks lol... saw that perez fella speak on tv... hahahaha!!! id be embarrassed to be one of those lib clowns standing there behind that asswipe.

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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2017, 12:36:24 PM »

how anyone could admit to being a dem these days is beyond me... just look at these fucks lol... saw that perez fella speak on tv... hahahaha!!! id be embarrassed to be one of those lib clowns standing there behind that asswipe.

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2017, 05:25:25 PM »
Elizabeth Warren disagrees with Tom Perez's litmus test on abortion



DNC Chairman Tom Perez's brazen rejection of pro-life Democrats has now been condemned by some of his party's most powerful voices. In recent days, both House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., and Sen. Bernie Sanders, D-Vt., rebuffed Perez's suggestion that Democrats must uniformly support abortion rights.

Now, even progressive champion Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., is publicly disagreeing with the chairman of her party.

"I am strongly pro-choice. I am strongly pro-choice, and I will fight," Warren told HuffPost, continuing, "But that's not how everyone in the party feels."

"I recognize that not all of my colleagues agree with me. I'll do everything I can to persuade them, but they are my colleagues, and that's just how it is with the Democrats," the senator concluded.

But is that really "just how it is with the Democrats"?

Until Perez reverses course, it doesn't seem that way.

Perez's line in the sand against candidates such as Omaha mayoral candidate Heath Mello (whose record is not as "pro-life" as people initially believed) was drawn because hardline groups like NARAL pressure the party to abandon pro-life candidates. Without a signal from Perez that his committee will support Democratic candidates who disagree with the party's platform, respecting the outlook of influential leaders like Warren, Sanders, and Pelosi, it's hard to believe he will not cave again.

That Warren, one of the Democrats' staunchest progressives, is pushing back against Perez, should send the DNC a message loud and clear.


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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2017, 06:09:14 PM »
WaPo: This Democratic Purity Experiment Is Quite A Mess, Huh?
Townhall.com ^ | April 28, 2017 | Matt Vespa
Posted on 4/28/2017, 7:33:50 PM by Kaslin



Time will tell if the Democratic Party’s charted course to progressive purity will be successful. Right now, Democrat Jon Ossoff is facing Republican Karen Handel in Georgia’s sixth congressional district runoff, which will be held in June. In Montana, Rob Quist is also trying to win over voters through heavy usage of firearms in his ads. The question Aaron Blake of The Washington Post asks is 'why did the Republican Party have such success with the Tea Party wave of 2010, knocking off members of Congress that conservatives felt were too moderate, while Democrats seem to be foundering.' If anything, it’s become a train wreck, with both the progressive wing of the Democratic Party flocking to Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and the establishment represented by newly elected DNC chair Tom Perez. The two kicked off a unity tour, which ended last week. Perez was booed and heckled at multiple stops. Also, Sanders isn’t a Democrat, something he makes clear with a tinge of pride in the inflection of such a declaration.

At the same time, Perez is no moderate Democrat; he’s pretty far left himself. What Blake found out is that reality is the Democratic Party’s biggest obstacle, using the Montana, Georgia, Nebraska, and Kansas elections to demonstrate the point. In Omaha, Nebraska, more heartburn hit the Democratic Party when Sanders backed Heath Mello, who is running for mayor. Mello supported a sonogram bill while serving in the state legislature, which led to Perez's declaration that to be a Democrat and get DNC support, you have to be pro-abortion:

In all four cases, Democrats have flirted with a purity focus in four tough areas of the country. Each shows how difficult that is to pull off.

And that's got to be frustrating for progressives. After all, Republicans have fought over purity for years, with the tea party giving the GOP establishment repeated fits. And the GOP only continued its ascent in Congress and now to the presidency. Why can't Democrats do the same with progressivism? Why can't they run like Sanders in Montana and Wichita and Omaha and suburban Atlanta?

The reason is pretty simple: reality. Because of the way our population is distributed, Democrats can't afford to enforce the kind of doctrinaire purity that the tea party was so successful in policing.

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Democrats won the House because socially and culturally conservative candidates carried conservative states districts in the South and along the Rust Belt in 2006 and 2008. Schumer led the recruiting effort in the Senate, and Pelosi became speaker as a result of then-DCCC Chairman Rahm Emanuel's political pragmatism. They know the deal.

The Democrats' tendency these days will be to demand their party be as un-Trump and un-Republican as possible in trying to win back control of Congress. These examples show how bumpy that path is already proving.

And it shows how losing ground in the rural states can lead to a slow gutting of your political operation. You simply cannot win back the House if you only dominate the urban areas—and Democrats are increasingly becoming an urban-based and coastal party. That’s not enough to win back the presidency or Congress. If Democrats don’t back those remaining red state Democrats who have proven they can win in Republican states, then prepare for a long stay in the political wilderness. In many ways, the Democratic Party is already there. Reaching out to white working class voters is the ticket to reclaiming the majority, though the urban-based elites who shun white voters for the sake of being the point of the lance for diversity will probably not let this fly. Another thing is that we’re a right-of-center nation. We lean to the right on social issues. We want to pay fewer taxes, we want a smaller government, we like our guns, and we feel that big government, not corporations, poses the biggest threat to our freedoms and liberties. Not necessarily fertile ground for a hyper left progressive movement to sweep the nation. We also walk a waffled line on abortion; with most saying that Roe v. Wade shouldn’t be overturned, but favor strict regulations on the procedure. For example, almost 60 percent support banning abortion after 20 weeks. That includes 60 percent of American women. The Democratic Party’s position is perilously close to supporting full-blown abortion on demand, which isn’t popular. Concerning government, liberals are the movement that believes more power in the hands of fewer people is key to securing a better form of social justice. Again, it is reality, but also one that is based in policy too. The Perez/Sanders Democratic Party is simply too far left to succeed in areas that they need to win in order to have a political renaissance.

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2017, 06:23:29 PM »

And it shows how losing ground in the rural states can lead to a slow gutting of your political operation. You simply cannot win back the House if you only dominate the urban areas—and Democrats are increasingly becoming an urban-based and coastal party. That’s not enough to win back the presidency or Congress. If Democrats don’t back those remaining red state Democrats who have proven they can win in Republican states, then prepare for a long stay in the political wilderness. In many ways, the Democratic Party is already there. Reaching out to white working class voters is the ticket to reclaiming the majority, though the urban-based elites who shun white voters for the sake of being the point of the lance for diversity will probably not let this fly.

The Democrats are incapable of winning back this group IMO.

And without this group the ability for them to take back Congress is practically impossible.

Maybe Lena Dunham will be their Savior??  ???

Lena Dunham hopes to connect with women 'in the middle of the country'



Lena Dunham wants to connect with women in Middle America.


The outspoken actress plans to turn her website, LennyLetter.com, into a variety show that she will take on the road along with co-founder Jenni Konner.

"We really wanted to try to be a part of, in our own small way, healing the very big divide that exists in our country right now," Dunham said in an interview Monday. "We're trying to look beyond the coastal states and really think about connecting to women, to people, in the middle of the country."

The star said she wanted to create the tour as a way that women could connect and share their thoughts following the presidential election.

The co-founders of the digital newsletter announced Tuesday that they'll take the "Lenny: America IRL" tour to six cities, beginning May 31 in St. Louis.

While the event will have liberal-skewing political overtones, Dunham and Konner say everyone is welcome.

"It's political, but we're also trying to bring up issues that you can't really argue with," Dunham said. "For example, a portion of our proceeds are going toward arts education organizations for girls in every city. People have a lot of really split opinions on social politics, but you basically have to be a mustache-twirling villain to have a problem with girls receiving arts education."

Konner said the show's content will be more general than the specific feminist tone of the biweekly Lenny Letter.

The tour, which will feature music, comedy and spoken word performances, includes stops in Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul, Minnesota; Des Moines, Iowa; and Lexington, Kentucky. Tickets go on sale Friday.

Performers will include "Saturday Night Live" star Sasheer Zamata, poet Jenny Zhang and comics Charla Lauriston and Morgan Murphy.

Beyond the "America IRL" tour, Konner and Dunham are also broadening Lenny into a documentary series for HBO and a Lenny book imprint launching in August with the first of six slated titles.

"It's all about trying to expand the way that women can have access to information that cracks their brains open," Dunham said. "Jenni's and my entire ethos is really built around relationships between women."

The Lenny expansions are giving the "Girls" alums a new place to put their energies after wrapping the often groundbreaking and controversial series last week.

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2017, 06:45:46 PM »
@:56  ;D :D


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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2017, 11:24:48 AM »


Lena Dunham hopes to connect with women 'in the middle of the country'


By fisting their little sisters and shoving pebbles into their vaginas?
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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2017, 04:09:08 PM »
The actual legislative policies from dems are better for the majority in the middle class.
The problem I see, is the dems embrace of gays, tranny's , femi-nazis ,ghetto rats, Muslims and illegal immigrants.

 I honestly don't feel like I have a political party that speaks for those like me.

Yeah taxing us more and passing laws like obamacare is awesome    GTFO

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2017, 05:40:13 PM »

 ::)    where i live dems run everything we are the highest taxed in the nation - no thanks,  F every democrat communist pos

I don't think middle class tax rates has changed much in the past 30 years.
The HMO's and Health Ins companies have made similar profits during that same time period.

The one major change is a higher % of wealth has gone to a very small group at the top.
For example, the gap between CEO and worker pay has grown 40x bigger during the past 30 yrs.
Considering we've had BOTh dems and GOP Presidents during that period makes me think WTF.

I saw a show last month where Bernie Saunders had a town hall meeting in rural West Va.
It became clear that most people there, agreed with Bernie's policies, especially on healthcare.

They voted 80% for Trump and would likely vote for him again, if the election were held today.
Why do so many of these rural voters, cote against the policies they agree with?

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2017, 08:50:41 AM »
Bill Maher slams Obama for his $400,000 Wall Street speech



On Friday night’s episode of “Real Time” on HBO, liberal host Bill Maher criticized former President Barack Obama for agreeing to give a speech at a Wall Street firm in September 2017 in exchange for $400,000. Obama was a harsh critic of Wall Street throughout his presidency and often villainized large corporations and wealthy investors for not “paying their fair share.”


After posing a question about Obama’s decision to accept the Wall Street cash, Maher first listened to the panel mostly dismiss the attacks on Obama, including Hollywood actor, producer, and director Rob Reiner, who suggested it’s acceptable for Obama take the money because he’s not “in the pocket of Wall Street.”

“He’s not running for anything right now,” said Reiner, who also claimed he would be bothered by it if he were going to run for office again in the future.

Maher didn’t buy that argument and suggested this sort of connection to Wall Street could lead to corruption.


“It kind of looks like: when he’s on our team, we’re OK with it,” Maher said, adding later, “You could say that when a guy is president, he’s looking ahead to that $400,000 payday. And he’s not going to get it if, while he’s president, he’s going to do something to p*** them off. So, isn’t the best thing to do to take your $10 million book deal? Can’t you live off that?”

Maher isn’t the only one on the left who has been critical of Obama’s speeches. In an interview with CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the speeches are “not a good idea.”

“I just think it does not look good,” Sanders said to CNN. “I just think it is distasteful—not a good idea that he did that.”

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2017, 09:22:17 AM »
Bill Maher slams Obama for his $400,000 Wall Street speech



On Friday night’s episode of “Real Time” on HBO, liberal host Bill Maher criticized former President Barack Obama for agreeing to give a speech at a Wall Street firm in September 2017 in exchange for $400,000. Obama was a harsh critic of Wall Street throughout his presidency and often villainized large corporations and wealthy investors for not “paying their fair share.”


After posing a question about Obama’s decision to accept the Wall Street cash, Maher first listened to the panel mostly dismiss the attacks on Obama, including Hollywood actor, producer, and director Rob Reiner, who suggested it’s acceptable for Obama take the money because he’s not “in the pocket of Wall Street.”

“He’s not running for anything right now,” said Reiner, who also claimed he would be bothered by it if he were going to run for office again in the future.

Maher didn’t buy that argument and suggested this sort of connection to Wall Street could lead to corruption.


“It kind of looks like: when he’s on our team, we’re OK with it,” Maher said, adding later, “You could say that when a guy is president, he’s looking ahead to that $400,000 payday. And he’s not going to get it if, while he’s president, he’s going to do something to p*** them off. So, isn’t the best thing to do to take your $10 million book deal? Can’t you live off that?”

Maher isn’t the only one on the left who has been critical of Obama’s speeches. In an interview with CNN’s Suzanne Malveaux, socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) said the speeches are “not a good idea.”

“I just think it does not look good,” Sanders said to CNN. “I just think it is distasteful—not a good idea that he did that.”


Ghettobama is just cashing in while he can - soon enough that will dry up and he will be in the shelter after he blows through it all on weed, coke, chooms, a fancy car, gold chains, etc. 

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2017, 09:27:59 AM »
Ghettobama is just cashing in while he can - soon enough that will dry up and he will be in the shelter after he blows through it all on weed, coke, chooms, a fancy car, gold chains, etc. 

Blowjobs from creepy looking, hairy pakis


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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2017, 10:23:52 AM »
Even Maher is calling her Pocahontas; she looks pissed too!  :D

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Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2017, 10:27:19 AM »
Hillary Clinton Still Wants A No Fly Zone & More B-O-M-B-I-N-G!


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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2017, 10:45:46 AM »
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2017, 05:46:53 PM »
    Nancy Pelosi Feels the Bern, Faces Pro-Sanders Primary Challenger

    House Minority Leader is 'really out of touch'




    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi is about to “feel the Bern” from San Francisco employment attorney Stephen R. Jaffe, a lifelong Democrat who was inspired by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) to challenge Pelosi for her seat in 2018.
    “I think Ms. Pelosi has served long and — for the most part — well,” Jaffe said in an interview with the Observer. “But, from my observations of the last year or so, particularly in her Town Halls with voters, I think she’s really out of touch with the voters in San Francisco. I think the district needs to be represented by someone more in touch with the voters and the constituents here, and I think I’m that person.”

    Jaffe, who was recruited by the Sanders campaign as a senior attorney to observe and monitor the Nevada caucuses, told the Observer he thinks the Vermont senator was “was more or less cheated out of” the nomination.

    However, others have suggested Sanders knew he never stood a chance against Clinton and establishment machine from the start.

    Jaffe co-founded and serves as president of the South Beach District 6 Democratic Club in San Francisco, Pelosi’s district, where he reportedly has a strong record of fighting for grassroots efforts and, more recently, pushed for the removal of dark money from politics in the Bay Area. Like Sanders, he is also seeking to move the Democratic Party away from its Establishment wing and everything that it represents.

    He’s not the first, or last person, to call Pelosi “out of touch” with her Democratic base either.

    In a 2016 interview with CBS News’ Face the Nation, Pelosi said, “I don’t think people want a new direction.” Showing an occasional contrast with her party’s “progressive” base in a February CNN Town Hall, she told a millennial Sanders supporter, “Well, I thank you for your question, but I have to say we’re capitalists — that’s just the way it is.”

    The Observer points out that “Under Pelosi, Democrats lost more than 60 seats in the House of Representatives from 2008 to 2016, and her tenure represents just how corrupt the Party has become.”

    Last November, Rep. Cedric Richmond (D-LA) criticized Pelosi and suggested her proposals to empower junior members of Congress — by making certain positions available only to lawmakers who have served fewer than three or four terms, while she and Reps. Jim Clyburn (D-SC) and Steny Hoyer (D-MD) remain in their current posts — could decrease the Congressional Black Caucus’s power while seemingly increasing her own.

    “The reality is that, from the perspective of the CBC, some changes may be beneficial while others may have severe unintended consequences that could diminish our power as a caucus within the Democratic Caucus,” Richmond wrote.

    Rep. Tim Ryan (D-OH), 43, has also accused Pelosi of trying to “further consolidate her power.” In one of several letters criticizing Pelosi over her poor leadership, Ryan wrote, “I am very disappointed in Leader Pelosi’s proposed caucus reforms which are seemingly designed to further consolidate her power over the caucus.”

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    Re: Civil War Within The Democrat Party
    « Reply #20 on: May 01, 2017, 05:56:34 PM »
    Dear Santa:

    Please have the Democrats run Elizabeth Warren and Keith Ellison against Trump in 2020.

    Thank you,

    MAGA!!!!!

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    « Reply #21 on: May 01, 2017, 05:59:54 PM »
    Dear Santa:

    Please have the Democrats run Elizabeth Warren and Keith Ellison against Trump in 2020.

    Thank you,

    MAGA!!!!!


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    « Reply #22 on: May 01, 2017, 06:05:35 PM »


    I didn't click the link, but I want to point out how wet the chick is in the back thinking about MAGA and Democrat extinction

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    « Reply #23 on: May 03, 2017, 06:11:44 AM »


    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, D-Fla., stepped up to bat for former President Barack Obama on Tuesday after he was criticized for accepting $400,000 for a speech at a Wall Street firm's healthcare conference in September.

    "Of all people to question ... their commitment to getting money out of politics, to really making sure we restored integrity to political finance process, President Obama couldn't have done more," Wasserman Schultz told CNN host Erin Burnett on Tuesday evening.

    Wasserman Schultz, who was ousted as Democratic National Committee chairwoman last summer for colluding with Hillary Clinton's campaign, said Obama has a history of fighting "against the big banks," despite his decision to now accept a large sum of money to address the Wall Street group.

    "Look, it is none of anyone's business what someone who is a member of the private sector decides to accept in terms of compensation," Wasserman Schultz added. "With all due respect to anyone who chooses to comment publicly on what Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, or anyone earns as a member of the private sector, it's just MYOB."

    Instead, the Florida lawmaker said the public should focus on both politicians' public records, which are "pristine."

    Although Wasserman Schultz has defended Obama's speaking fee, Sens. Bernie Sanders of Vermont and Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts have blasted Obama for it.
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    « Reply #24 on: May 06, 2017, 10:36:49 PM »
    Poll: Majority of Voters Do Not Want Chelsea Clinton to Seek Political Office



    Chelsea Clinton is not getting much support to run for office from American voters, according to a new poll.
    Only 27 percent of registered voters say they would support Clinton if she ran for political office, while 48 percent said they would rather not see her run, according to a Morning Consult/Politico poll.

    The remaining quarter of voters said they had no opinion or were unsure.

    Along party lines, Clinton, 37, did not have a lot of support from her own party, with only 48 percent of Democrats saying they would support her in a future run for office. An overwhelming 74 percent of Republicans said they would oppose her candidacy.

    Clinton performed poorly in the polls among independents as well, with only 20 percent of independents supporting her and 48 percent opposing her.

    Younger voters, women, and Democrats were more likely to support a possible Clinton run, while men, Republicans, and older voters were more likely not to support a potential Clinton candidacy.

    Clinton’s popularity is split, with 39 percent saying she is viewed favorably while 38 percent say she is not viewed in a favorable light.

    Clinton has stoked a lot of speculation about her entrance into the political arena, with many in Democratic circles saying she should run for a House or Senate seat. Clinton has denied that this speculation is true while leaving the door open for a future run.

    “I really am constantly surprised by the stories of me running for, fill in the blank—Congress, Senate, City Council, the presidency,” Clinton told Variety in an interview. “I really find this all rather hysterical, because I’ve been asked this question a lot throughout my life, and the answer has never changed.”

    “I clearly do not support the president and certainly hope that he is defeated in the next election, but I don’t think I’m the best person for that job,” she added.