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« Reply #450 on: March 02, 2018, 04:37:40 PM »

lol.  You folks keep trying to speak bad things into existence.  It isn't working. 


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« Reply #451 on: March 02, 2018, 05:24:47 PM »

lol.  You folks keep trying to speak bad things into existence.  It isn't working. 

What doesn't exist? That a record-setting number of Trump staffers jumped ship in just the first year and more either gone or going this year?

Jumped or were pushed:
Steve Bannon
Reince Priebus
Omarosa
Hope Hicks
Sean Spicer
Katie Walsh
Michael Flinn
Mike Dubke
Sebastian Gorka
K. T. McFarland
Rob Porter
Dina Powell
Keith Shiller
Ezra Cohen-Watnic
Tera Dahl
Derick Harvey
Rich Higgens
Josh Raffel
Michael Short
Anthony Scaramucci

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« Reply #452 on: March 02, 2018, 06:35:49 PM »

What doesn't exist? That a record-setting number of Trump staffers jumped ship in just the first year and more either gone or going this year?

Jumped or were pushed:
Steve Bannon
Reince Priebus
Omarosa
Hope Hicks
Sean Spicer
Katie Walsh
Michael Flinn
Mike Dubke
Sebastian Gorka
K. T. McFarland
Rob Porter
Dina Powell
Keith Shiller
Ezra Cohen-Watnic
Tera Dahl
Derick Harvey
Rich Higgens
Josh Raffel
Michael Short
Anthony Scaramucci

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John Kelly
Ivanka Trump
Jared Kushner

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« Reply #453 on: March 02, 2018, 06:51:21 PM »

What doesn't exist? That a record-setting number of Trump staffers jumped ship in just the first year and more either gone or going this year?

Jumped or were pushed:
Steve Bannon
Reince Priebus
Omarosa
Hope Hicks
Sean Spicer
Katie Walsh
Michael Flinn
Mike Dubke
Sebastian Gorka
K. T. McFarland
Rob Porter
Dina Powell
Keith Shiller
Ezra Cohen-Watnic
Tera Dahl
Derick Harvey
Rich Higgens
Josh Raffel
Michael Short
Anthony Scaramucci

Up next:
John Kelly
Ivanka Trump
Jared Kushner

Who cares?   Hasn't stopped from getting things done. 

And doesn't stop the media and people suffering from TDS from perpetual meltdowns. 
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« Reply #454 on: March 02, 2018, 09:35:41 PM »

Who cares?   Hasn't stopped from getting things done. 

And doesn't stop the media and people suffering from TDS from perpetual meltdowns. 

and you say liberalism is a desease?
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« Reply #455 on: March 02, 2018, 09:37:10 PM »

and you say liberalism is a desease?

Absolutely.  First thing it does is interfere with a liberal's ability to spell.   Grin
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« Reply #456 on: March 05, 2018, 07:35:20 AM »

Trump, Bernie, and Clinton, and now the UAE conspired with Russia to help Trump win the election so he could become a Russian puppet?  This conspiracy theory is sooooo complicated.  lol

Mueller team looking into possible United Arab Emirates money into Trump campaign: report

Joseph Weber By Joseph Weber   | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/04/mueller-team-looking-into-possible-united-arab-emirates-money-into-trump-campaign-report.html
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« Reply #457 on: March 05, 2018, 07:37:53 AM »

Trump, Bernie, and Clinton, and now the UAE conspired with Russia to help Trump win the election so he could become a Russian puppet?  This conspiracy theory is sooooo complicated.  lol

Mueller team looking into possible United Arab Emirates money into Trump campaign: report

Joseph Weber By Joseph Weber   | Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/04/mueller-team-looking-into-possible-united-arab-emirates-money-into-trump-campaign-report.html

Trump is right - what a mistake appointing a SP - complete sham. 
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« Reply #458 on: March 05, 2018, 07:42:14 AM »

Trump is right - what a mistake appointing a SP - complete sham. 

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« Reply #459 on: March 05, 2018, 02:28:58 PM »

The stakes ... Ramifications of failing to comply with or failure to respond to a grand jury subpoena can have serious consequences, even jail time. ... If you are inclined to refuse to comply with a grand jury subpoena, it must be argued in court as to why you do not have to comply.

Former Trump aide, Sam Nunberg says he's refusing Mueller subpoena: 'Screw that' "I'm not cooperating. Arrest me," Nunberg said. "You want to arrest me? Arrest me."
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« Reply #460 on: March 05, 2018, 03:31:57 PM »

The stakes ... Ramifications of failing to comply with or failure to respond to a grand jury subpoena can have serious consequences, even jail time. ... If you are inclined to refuse to comply with a grand jury subpoena, it must be argued in court as to why you do not have to comply.

Former Trump aide, Sam Nunberg says he's refusing Mueller subpoena: 'Screw that' "I'm not cooperating. Arrest me," Nunberg said. "You want to arrest me? Arrest me."

He sounded a little drunk today on the phone with Jake
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« Reply #461 on: March 12, 2018, 02:39:46 PM »

Now let's move along to how they haven't hired enough butler and maid positions  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes




WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans on the House intelligence committee have completed a draft report concluding there was no collusion or coordination between Donald Trump’s presidential campaign and Russia.

The finding is sure to please the White House and enrage panel Democrats who have not yet seen the document.

After a yearlong investigation, Texas Rep. Mike Conaway says the committee has finished conducting dozens of witness interviews and will share the report with Democrats on Tuesday. Conaway is the Republican leading the House probe.

The public will not see the report until Democrats have reviewed it and the intelligence community has decided what information can become public, a process that could take weeks. Democrats are expected to issue a separate report with much different conclusions.



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« Reply #462 on: March 15, 2018, 09:08:31 AM »

All part of the plan Trump and Putin concocted back in 2014 (along with Bernie, Clinton, and the UAE). 

Trump administration sanctions Russians for interfering in 2016 elections
Alex Pappas By Alex Pappas   | Fox News

The Trump administration on Thursday sanctioned 19 Russian individuals and five Russian entities for allegedly interfering in the 2016 election and engaging in cyber-attacks.

The announcement was made by the Department of the Treasury and includes the 13 Russians who were recently indicted in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s probe.

“These targeted sanctions are a part of a broader effort to address the ongoing nefarious attacks emanating from Russia,” Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said in a statement.

The sanctions mean all property of these individuals and entities subject to U.S. jurisdiction are blocked. United States people are also prohibited from engaging in transactions with them. 

13 RUSSIAN NATIONALS INDICTED FOR INTERFERING IN US ELECTIONS

The Treasury Department said the sanctions are meant to counter Russia’s destabilizing activities, including its interference in the 2016 election and its destructive cyber-attacks. The department cited the NotPetya attack, a cyber-attack the White House and the British government have attributed to the Russian military.

Last month, 13 Russians and three Russian companies were indicted in Mueller’s probe, accused of a sophisticated plot to wage “information warfare” against the U.S.

The 13 Russians charged are: Yevgeniy Viktorovich Prigozhin; Mikhail Ivanovich Bystrov; Mikhail Leonidovich Burchik; Aleksandra Yuryevna Krylova; Anna Vladislavovna Bogacheva; Sergey Pavlovich Polozov; Maria Anatolyrvna Bovda; Robert Sergetevich Bovda; Dzheykhun Nasimi Ogly; Vadim Vladimirovich Podkopaev; Gleb Igorevich Vasilchenko; Irina Viktorovna Kaverzina and Vladimir Venkov.

IN JOINT STATEMENT, WORLD LEADERS AGREE RUSSIA BEHIND NERVE AGENT ATTACK ON FORMER SPY

The three entities are Internet Research Agency LLC, Concord Management and Consulting LLC and Concord Catering.

Hillary Clinton accuses President Trump of ignoring and 'surrendering' to the threat of Russia. But what about President Obama? #TuckerVideo
Hillary believes the 'Russians are still coming'
The sanctions also target two entities and six individuals accused of being cyber actors operating on behalf of the Russian government.

Those entities are the Federal Security Service and the Main Intelligence Directorate. The individuals are Sergei Afanasyev, Vladimir Alexseyev, Sergey Gizunov, Igor Korobov, Igor Kostyukov and Grigoriy Molchanov.

The sanctions come as leaders of the United States, Germany and France have joined together with the United Kingdom in accusing Russia of being behind the nerve agent attack on an ex-Russian spy.

In a joint statement Thursday, President Trump, French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Theresa May said they "abhor" the attack against Sergei Skripal, 66, and his 33-year-old daughter, Yulia, in Salisbury on March 4. A police officer who came to the pair's aid was also sickened.

"This use of a military-grade nerve agent, of a type developed by Russia, constitutes the first offensive use of a nerve agent in Europe since the Second World War," the statement said.

The Trump administration also accused Russia on Thursday of a concerted, ongoing operation to hack and spy on the U.S. energy grid and other critical infrastructure.

U.S. national security officials said the FBI, the Homeland Security Department and American intelligence agencies determined that Russian intelligence and others were behind the attacks on the energy sector.

The officials said the Russians deliberately chose U.S. energy industry targets, obtaining access to computer systems and then conducting "network reconnaissance" of industrial control systems that run American factories and the electricity grid.

The U.S. government has helped energy businesses kick out the Russians from all systems currently known to have been penetrated, according to the officials.

The officials, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive national security information, left open the possibility of discovering more breaches, and said the federal government was issuing an alert to the energy industry to raise awareness about the threat and improve preparation.

The accusations and accompanying sanctions are some of the strongest actions to date by the administration to punish Russia for hacking and other efforts to sow discord in the American democracy.

Fox News’ Lucia I. Suarez Sang and The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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« Reply #463 on: March 19, 2018, 02:16:03 PM »

And the beat goes on.  What a stain on American history this asinine conspiracy theory will be. 

Trump hires Russia probe critic Joseph diGenova to his legal team
The addition comes as Trump has started swinging more aggressively against Mueller and his team of prosecutors.
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN
03/19/2018
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« Reply #464 on: March 19, 2018, 04:17:46 PM »

And the beat goes on.  What a stain on American history this asinine conspiracy theory will be. 

Trump hires Russia probe critic Joseph diGenova to his legal team
The addition comes as Trump has started swinging more aggressively against Mueller and his team of prosecutors.
By DARREN SAMUELSOHN
03/19/2018
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/19/trump-hires-joseph-digenova-470730

Wonder where this leaves possible obstruction of justice accusations. Seems possible that the more trump messes with conspiracy theory players/investigators such a Comey and Mueller, the more likely he'll be charged with obstruction of justice at some point. Trump's not an emperor or a king like those of times past when they'd have anyone who threatened their position was murdered.

Some recent examples of obstruction of justice charges brought against the then sitting president ;

Bill Clinton was impeached by the United States House of Representatives in 1998 for obstruction of justice charges based on allegations Clinton lied about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky in a sworn deposition in the Paula Jones lawsuit.

Richard Nixon was being investigated for obstruction of justice for his alleged role in the cover-up of the break-in at the Watergate hotel during his re-election campaign in 1972. Although it is unknown whether Nixon had foreknowledge of his re-election committee's "dirty tricks" campaign against Democratic presidential candidates that led to the break-in, he was aware of it after the fact and paid money to keep the participants quiet.

And former Vice-Presidential adviser I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice in March 2007 for his role in the investigation of a leak to reporters that named a CIA agent, Valerie Plame. His prison sentence was commuted by President George W. Bush in July 2007, so that Libby was no longer required to serve a two-and-a-half-year prison sentence, but was still required to pay a $250,000 fine, be recorded as a convicted felon, obey probation terms, and be disbarred.
 
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« Reply #465 on: March 19, 2018, 04:25:15 PM »

Wonder where this leaves possible obstruction of justice accusations. Seems possible that the more trump messes with conspiracy theory players/investigators such a Comey and Mueller, the more likely he'll be charged with obstruction of justice at some point. Trump's not an emperor or a king like those of times past when they'd have anyone who threatened their position was murdered.

Some recent examples of obstruction of justice charges brought against the then sitting president ;

Bill Clinton was impeached by the United States House of Representatives in 1998 for obstruction of justice charges based on allegations Clinton lied about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky in a sworn deposition in the Paula Jones lawsuit.

Richard Nixon was being investigated for obstruction of justice for his alleged role in the cover-up of the break-in at the Watergate hotel during his re-election campaign in 1972. Although it is unknown whether Nixon had foreknowledge of his re-election committee's "dirty tricks" campaign against Democratic presidential candidates that led to the break-in, he was aware of it after the fact and paid money to keep the participants quiet.

And former Vice-Presidential adviser I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was convicted of obstruction of justice in March 2007 for his role in the investigation of a leak to reporters that named a CIA agent, Valerie Plame. His prison sentence was commuted by President George W. Bush in July 2007, so that Libby was no longer required to serve a two-and-a-half-year prison sentence, but was still required to pay a $250,000 fine, be recorded as a convicted felon, obey probation terms, and be disbarred.
 

There is zero evidence of obstruction of justice.  Trump isn't going to be charged with obstruction for doing what he was constitutionally authorized to do (fire Comey).  Firing Comey did nothing to impede looking into this ridiculous conspiracy theory.  No funding was pulled.  No investigation stopped.  This is major league foolishness.   
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« Reply #466 on: March 19, 2018, 05:03:19 PM »

There is zero evidence of obstruction of justice.  Trump isn't going to be charged with obstruction for doing what he was constitutionally authorized to do (fire Comey).  Firing Comey did nothing to impede looking into this ridiculous conspiracy theory.  No funding was pulled.  No investigation stopped.  This is major league foolishness.   

As far as we know, there isn't.

Thursday’s explosive New York Times story that President Donald Trump ordered the firing of special counsel Robert Mueller last June renewed the public’s focus on the obstruction of justice investigation against Trump, which will soon culminate in Trump’s interview by Mueller. The case against Trump has grown stronger in recent months, and it now appears likely that Mueller will conclude that Trump obstructed justice. By RENATO MARIOTTI January 26, 2018

Trump-Russia links: Robert Mueller aims to question US President over potential obstruction of justice. Andrew Buncombe New York

19 Times President Trump May Have Obstructed Justice. By Margaret Hartmann

Many legal scholars still disagree with that interpretation, arguing that the president’s role as a law-enforcement officer does not give him the right to shield himself and his associates from any legal accountability. In a 108-page analysis of the potential obstruction case against Trump, the Brookings Institution summarized the types of actions that could amount to presidential obstruction of justice: To read the summarization: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/article/times-president-trump-obstructed-justice.html
 
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« Reply #467 on: March 19, 2018, 05:10:54 PM »

As far as we know, there isn't.

Thursday’s explosive New York Times story that President Donald Trump ordered the firing of special counsel Robert Mueller last June renewed the public’s focus on the obstruction of justice investigation against Trump, which will soon culminate in Trump’s interview by Mueller. The case against Trump has grown stronger in recent months, and it now appears likely that Mueller will conclude that Trump obstructed justice. By RENATO MARIOTTI January 26, 2018

Trump-Russia links: Robert Mueller aims to question US President over potential obstruction of justice. Andrew Buncombe New York

19 Times President Trump May Have Obstructed Justice. By Margaret Hartmann

Many legal scholars still disagree with that interpretation, arguing that the president’s role as a law-enforcement officer does not give him the right to shield himself and his associates from any legal accountability. In a 108-page analysis of the potential obstruction case against Trump, the Brookings Institution summarized the types of actions that could amount to presidential obstruction of justice: To read the summarization: http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/article/times-president-trump-obstructed-justice.html
 

Zero evidence. 

This reminds me of the psychiatrist from Yale who did the TV diagnosis of Trump.   
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« Reply #468 on: March 19, 2018, 05:20:01 PM »

Lets play the game then, what is the underlying crime for the obstruction ??........................ ...............silence
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« Reply #469 on: March 19, 2018, 05:21:35 PM »

Zero evidence. 

This reminds me of the psychiatrist from Yale who did the TV diagnosis of Trump.   

Not to question whether there is evidence of conspiracy or not, but how do you know there is zero evidence of it. I'm not sure how it is possible to either know this or know otherwise, unless you are a member of Mueller's team. In this case, I think we should agree that the media doesn't know much, if any, more about the investigation than you and I do.

If you wish for something hard enough, can you make it happen? In retrospect you might believe you did, but I question if that is actually possible.
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« Reply #470 on: March 19, 2018, 05:34:21 PM »

Not to question whether there is evidence of conspiracy or not, but how do you know there is zero evidence of it. I'm not sure how it is possible to either know this or know otherwise, unless you are a member of Mueller's team. In this case, I think we should agree that the media doesn't know much, if any, more about the investigation than you and I do.

If you wish for something hard enough, can you make it happen? In retrospect you might believe you did, but I question if that is actually possible.

I know because this entire thing is as plausible as the faked moon landing or the U.S. government conspiring with foreign terrorists to attack us on 9/11.  I know because if there was a shred of evidence, it would have been leaked.  I'm not sure anything of substance has happened in this investigation without it first being leaked.  I know this because James Comey himself said he didn't believe Trump was trying to interfere with his investigation.   

There is nothing there, and you know it.  That's why you cannot identify precisely how he obstructed justice.  It's a stupid theory. 

But you know what?  It would not surprise me if there is some kind of political (not criminal) claim that comes out of the investigation
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« Reply #471 on: March 19, 2018, 05:34:43 PM »

Lets play the game then, what is the underlying crime for the obstruction ??........................ ...............silence

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« Reply #472 on: March 20, 2018, 08:07:59 AM »

Lets play the game then, what is the underlying crime for the obstruction ??........................ ...............silence

depends on what the definition of obstruction is. If I fire the lead investigator that is investigating me for possible collusion, did I obstruct the investigation? If I tell someone to say a particular thing if ask, is that obstruction? It certainly could be argued that I did. I'm no lawyer and I'm sure making a case for obstruction or collusion for that matter is probably pretty complicated and has legal nuances I'm unaware of. I don't get this almost panicking call from Trumpsters to end the investigation. If there is no collusion and there is no obstruction to worry about, why not let the investigation run its course? If for sake of argument the Republicans in Congress somehow shut down the investigation now, do you not think this would hang over their heads and Trumps heads? Why not let it run it's course and then you can say you told them so.. and if you even dare to say it's about the money spent... just cancel a few golf trips, that should more than cover the cost. 
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« Reply #473 on: March 20, 2018, 09:06:38 AM »

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depends on what the definition of obstruction is. If I fire the lead investigator that is investigating me for possible collusion, did I obstruct the investigation? If I tell someone to say a particular thing if ask, is that obstruction? It certainly could be argued that I did. I'm no lawyer and I'm sure making a case for obstruction or collusion for that matter is probably pretty complicated and has legal nuances I'm unaware of. I don't get this almost panicking call from Trumpsters to end the investigation. If there is no collusion and there is no obstruction to worry about, why not let the investigation run its course? If for sake of argument the Republicans in Congress somehow shut down the investigation now, do you not think this would hang over their heads and Trumps heads? Why not let it run it's course and then you can say you told them so.. and if you even dare to say it's about the money spent... just cancel a few golf trips, that should more than cover the cost. 

There is no crime called "collusion", the investigation is based on lies and crimes committed by those who triggered the investigation.

If you were to be investigated for being a pedophile based on lies - would you feel the same and want the investigation to continue for 2 years?
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