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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #425 on: February 24, 2018, 03:45:31 PM »

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« Reply #426 on: February 24, 2018, 03:46:20 PM »
Lol, guy gets angry over being called a "left-wing conspiracy theorist" after insulting another individual (Rush) by calling him a "right-wing conspiracy theorist". You are very typical that is for sure.

 I'm not Rush's biggest fan (he's alright) but "you don't know him". I can say I know more about you then you do about him. You don't respect people enough to actually listen to them without throwing around false accusations.

Your post classifies for "meltdown" status.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #427 on: February 26, 2018, 02:57:28 AM »
Sometimes the cover-up is crazier than the actual crime!
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« Reply #428 on: February 26, 2018, 01:11:41 PM »
‘A TOTAL F***-UP’: RUSSIAN MERCENARIES IN SYRIA LAMENT U.S. STRIKE THAT KILLED DOZENS
BY DAVID BRENNAN ON 2/23/18 AT 11:46 AM


A US military convoy drives on a Syrian highway on September 29, 2017
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Recordings have emerged in which Russian mercenaries subjected to a joint U.S. strike that killed dozens of their comrades describe the incident as “a total fuck-up.”

Polygraph.info, a Voice of America project, published three recordings, which it received from a source close to the Kremlin. The source said that the recorded phone calls were made by personnel from CHVK Wagner, a Russian private military company.

The incident in question occurred on the night and early morning of Feb. 7-8, when Syrian government forces—backed by Russian mercenaries employed by CHVK Wagner—attempted to capture an oil refinery near the Syrian city of Deir Ezzor. After Russian personnel came into contact with American troops stationed there, the U.S. forces responded with artillery and air strikes.

More: http://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #429 on: February 26, 2018, 01:18:26 PM »
Do you enjoy twisting my words? I did not say that she got death treats because she's irritating. She's irritating to me because IMO her voice is shrill and because she speaks over people. In one video I watched but did not post, Dana harasses a woman she wants to interview trying to get her to submit to the interview after the woman made it clear she was not interested.

Bruh.  Seriously? 

-No need to watch all of either clip. I did watch most of them myself because I wanted to get a better sense of how Dana Loesch comes off to people rather than to judge her solely on last night's performance. I find her irritating to listen to, not because of what she says so much as how she says it. After watching those videos and several others available on YouTube, I can see where she might need protection and why she might get death treats.


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #430 on: February 26, 2018, 01:18:54 PM »
You don't even realize what you post/respond to or just a huge cop-out.



He does that quite a bit.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #431 on: February 26, 2018, 01:20:05 PM »
‘A TOTAL F***-UP’: RUSSIAN MERCENARIES IN SYRIA LAMENT U.S. STRIKE THAT KILLED DOZENS
BY DAVID BRENNAN ON 2/23/18 AT 11:46 AM


A US military convoy drives on a Syrian highway on September 29, 2017
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Recordings have emerged in which Russian mercenaries subjected to a joint U.S. strike that killed dozens of their comrades describe the incident as “a total fuck-up.”

Polygraph.info, a Voice of America project, published three recordings, which it received from a source close to the Kremlin. The source said that the recorded phone calls were made by personnel from CHVK Wagner, a Russian private military company.

The incident in question occurred on the night and early morning of Feb. 7-8, when Syrian government forces—backed by Russian mercenaries employed by CHVK Wagner—attempted to capture an oil refinery near the Syrian city of Deir Ezzor. After Russian personnel came into contact with American troops stationed there, the U.S. forces responded with artillery and air strikes.

More: http://www.newsweek.com/total-f-russian-mercenaries-syria-lament-us-strike-killed-dozens-818073



Does this relate to the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory, or are you just celebrating bad news again? 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #432 on: February 26, 2018, 01:20:58 PM »
Bruh.  Seriously? 


Yes seriously. I'm entitled to my opinion.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #433 on: February 26, 2018, 01:23:47 PM »
Yes seriously. I'm entitled to my opinion.

Yes you are.  Your opinion is that after watching a few youtube clips and finding her irritating, you understand why she gets death threats. 

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« Reply #434 on: February 26, 2018, 01:24:30 PM »
Does this relate to the Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory, or are you just celebrating bad news again? 

No, it does not. It seemed interesting that Newsweek used that same photo months apart. "fake news"

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« Reply #435 on: February 26, 2018, 01:28:32 PM »
Yes you are.  Your opinion is that after watching a few youtube clips and finding her irritating, you understand why she gets death threats. 

Yup that's my opinion. If you took this to mean I think it's okay that she gets death treats, you're wrong. Death treats are never okay with me, no matter how obnoxious a person is.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #436 on: February 26, 2018, 01:32:12 PM »
Yup that's my opinion. If you took this to mean I think it's okay that she gets death treats, you're wrong. Death treats are never okay with me, no matter how obnoxious a person is.

Whisky Tango Foxtrot.  Make up your mind already.  lol 

Do you enjoy twisting my words? I did not say that she got death treats because she's irritating. She's irritating to me because IMO her voice is shrill and because she speaks over people. In one video I watched but did not post, Dana harasses a woman she wants to interview trying to get her to submit to the interview after the woman made it clear she was not interested.

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« Reply #437 on: February 26, 2018, 01:38:30 PM »
Poor Bernie.  Screwed by Clinton and DNC.  Now being caught up in this loony conspiracy theory.

Bernie Sanders struggles to address Russian support after Mueller indictment
Brooke Singman By Brooke Singman   | Fox News

Sen. Bernie Sanders has seemingly struggled to address recent allegations that Russia's campaign to interfere in the 2016 presidential election included a plan to boost his Democratic primary campaign.

For well over a year, it was alleged that Moscow's meddling mainly was meant to boost now-President Trump and harm then-Democratic rival Hillary Clinton.

A bombshell Feb. 16 indictment filed against 13 Russian nationals in Robert Mueller's Russia probe bolstered those allegations, in stunning detail -- but also said the Russians sought to help Sanders.

Russian nationals, the indictment said, “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

The details create an awkward situation for the Vermont senator, as he is seen to be positioning himself for a potential 2020 White House run.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team indicted 13 Russian nationals on Feb. 16, 2018 for interfering in the 2016 presidential election.  (Reuters)
Sanders, however, has yet to give a clear response on whether he and his campaign were aware of, or took action to address, the interference -- like Russian bot social media accounts allegedly supporting his campaign. Instead, Sanders, I-Vt., has tried to shift the scrutiny toward Clinton’s campaign for not doing more to prevent Russian meddling.

“The real question to be asked is what was the Clinton campaign [doing about Russian interference]? They had more information about this than we did,” Sanders said in an interview last week with Vermont Public Radio. “They were supporting my campaign? No. They were attacking Hillary Clinton’s campaign and using my supporters against Hillary Clinton.”

Fox News senior judicial analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano on special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation and rumors Justice Anthony Kennedy may retire from the Supreme Court.Video
Trump blames Obama for Russia meddling

One episode in the indictment involved Russian nationals allegedly circulating in February 2016 an internal “outline of themes for future content to be posted to organization-controlled social media accounts.”

13 RUSSIAN NATIONALS INDICTED FOR INTERERING IN US ELECTIONS

“Specialists were instructed to post content that focused on ‘politics in the USA’ and to ‘use any opportunity to criticize Hillary and the rest (except Sanders and Trump –we support them),” the documents said.

Sanders claimed in the radio interview, and again on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” that a campaign aide shared information with the Clinton campaign about suspected anti-Clinton Russian trolls on a campaign Facebook page.

“A guy who was on my staff … checked it out and he went to the Clinton campaign, and he said, ‘You know what? I think these guys are Russians,’” Sanders said. His former campaign manager Jeff Weaver said the senator’s comments were based on news reports, specifically one by NBC’s San Diego affiliate that suggested a campaign volunteer brought the findings to the Clinton team.

Politico, however, reported that the 'staffer' Sanders was referring to, John Mattes from San Diego, was just a volunteer -- and did not receive any direction from Sanders or campaign staff, but rather communicated on his own with a Clinton-backing super PAC.

ARCHIVO - En esta imagen de archivo del 8 de noviembre de 2016, la entonces candidata demócrata a la presidencia Hillary Clinton saluda a su llegada para votar en su centro de votación en Chappaqua, Nueva York. (AP Foto/Seth Wenig, Archivo)
The Clinton campaign denied receiving information from the Sanders campaign on the issue of Russian influence.  (AP)
The Clinton campaign itself denied receiving information from Sanders' campaign on the issue, telling Politico that no one from Sanders’ campaign reached out.

Weaver later told Politico that Sanders did not have any firsthand knowledge that that happened.

A spokesperson for Sanders did not respond to Fox News’ request for comment.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/26/bernie-sanders-struggles-to-address-russian-support-after-mueller-indictment.html

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #438 on: February 26, 2018, 01:51:47 PM »
Whisky Tango Foxtrot.  Make up your mind already.  lol 


Do you never wonder why some things happen?

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #439 on: February 26, 2018, 01:55:29 PM »
Do you never wonder why some things happen?

You said you watched youtube videos, found her irritating, and after watching the videos understand why gets death threats. 

When I pointed out what you said, you denied saying it. 

When I posted your own words, you agreed you said them. 

Maybe you don't realize you're contradicting yourself?

In any event, I know why she is getting death threats.  It's the same reason conservatives get threatened, beaten, censored, etc.:  because many liberals cannot tolerate someone who thinks differently than they do.   


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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #440 on: February 26, 2018, 02:52:17 PM »
You said you watched youtube videos, found her irritating, and after watching the videos understand why gets death threats. 

When I pointed out what you said, you denied saying it. 

When I posted your own words, you agreed you said them. 

Maybe you don't realize you're contradicting yourself?

In any event, I know why she is getting death threats.  It's the same reason conservatives get threatened, beaten, censored, etc.:  because many liberals cannot tolerate someone who thinks differently than they do.   



I do not recall denying what I said. If you could find where I posted this for me, that would be great.

Political Violence and Prejudice

"In the real world, since the end of the Vietnam era, the overwhelming majority of serious political violence—not counting vandalism or punches thrown at protests, but violence with lethal intent—has come from the fringes of the right. Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project says that “if you go back to the 1960s, you see all kinds of left-wing terrorism, but since then it’s been exceedingly rare.” She notes that eco- and animal-rights extremists caused extensive property damage in the 1990s, but didn’t target people."

....findings confirm that conservatives, liberals, the religious and the nonreligious are each prejudiced against those with opposing views. But surprisingly, each group is about equally prejudiced. While liberals might like to think of themselves as more open-minded, they are no more tolerant of people unlike them than their conservative counterparts are.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114

"FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says."

https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #441 on: February 26, 2018, 03:07:20 PM »
I do not recall denying what I said. If you could find where I posted this for me, that would be great.

Political Violence and Prejudice

"In the real world, since the end of the Vietnam era, the overwhelming majority of serious political violence—not counting vandalism or punches thrown at protests, but violence with lethal intent—has come from the fringes of the right. Heidi Beirich, director of the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Intelligence Project says that “if you go back to the 1960s, you see all kinds of left-wing terrorism, but since then it’s been exceedingly rare.” She notes that eco- and animal-rights extremists caused extensive property damage in the 1990s, but didn’t target people."

....findings confirm that conservatives, liberals, the religious and the nonreligious are each prejudiced against those with opposing views. But surprisingly, each group is about equally prejudiced. While liberals might like to think of themselves as more open-minded, they are no more tolerant of people unlike them than their conservative counterparts are.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/09/why-liberals-arent-as-tolerant-as-they-think-215114

"FACT CHECK: Is Left-Wing Violence Rising?

"In the past 10 years when you look at murders committed by domestic extremists in the United States of all types, right-wing extremists are responsible for about 74 percent of those murders," Pitcavage says."

https://www.npr.org/2017/06/16/533255619/fact-check-is-left-wing-violence-rising


Right here:

Do you enjoy twisting my words? I did not say that she got death treats because she's irritating. She's irritating to me because IMO her voice is shrill and because she speaks over people. In one video I watched but did not post, Dana harasses a woman she wants to interview trying to get her to submit to the interview after the woman made it clear she was not interested.

Regarding violent liberal fascists, you'll need to come with a much better source than the Southern Poverty Law Center, the same people who identify organizations like the Family Research Council and others that support traditional marriage as hate groups.  The same people who put Dr. Ben Carson on their list. 

If you haven't seen the violence on the left you haven't been paying attention.   

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« Reply #442 on: February 26, 2018, 04:02:11 PM »
Haven't seen the violence on the left? Apparently you don't know that I live in a suburb of Portland, OR. Think Antifa.
http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/antifa-demonstrators-rally-march-in-downtown-portland/283-488957603

I personally witnessed a "parade" in Lake Oswego where the left were on one side of the street and the right on the other. Both side were protesting vigorously. Most disconcerting to me was the number of folks who brought their young children.http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/03/march_4_trump_lake_oswego.html

There are many sources which discuss liberal vrs conservative violence statistics. Liberals (so called hippies) were known for anti-establishment often times violent demonstrations. Times change. "Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism."

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« Reply #443 on: February 26, 2018, 04:20:50 PM »
Haven't seen the violence on the left? Apparently you don't know that I live in a suburb of Portland, OR. Think Antifa.
http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/antifa-demonstrators-rally-march-in-downtown-portland/283-488957603

I personally witnessed a "parade" in Lake Oswego where the left were on one side of the street and the right on the other. Both side were protesting vigorously. Most disconcerting to me was the number of folks who brought their young children.http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/03/march_4_trump_lake_oswego.html

There are many sources which discuss liberal vrs conservative violence statistics. Liberals (so called hippies) were known for anti-establishment often times violent demonstrations. Times change. "Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism."

Ok.  I take that back if you've seen Antifa in action. 

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« Reply #445 on: February 26, 2018, 04:43:59 PM »
Haven't seen the violence on the left? Apparently you don't know that I live in a suburb of Portland, OR. Think Antifa.
http://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/antifa-demonstrators-rally-march-in-downtown-portland/283-488957603

I personally witnessed a "parade" in Lake Oswego where the left were on one side of the street and the right on the other. Both side were protesting vigorously. Most disconcerting to me was the number of folks who brought their young children.http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/2017/03/march_4_trump_lake_oswego.html

There are many sources which discuss liberal vrs conservative violence statistics. Liberals (so called hippies) were known for anti-establishment often times violent demonstrations. Times change. "Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism."

And this is the kind of thing I was talking about regarding fascist liberals trying to shut down free speech:

Ann Coulter vows to speak at Berkeley after event called off
Published April 20, 2017
FoxNews.com

Ann Coulter told Fox News the decision to nix her planned speaking event next week at the University of California, Berkeley, wouldn’t keep her from showing up.

"What are they going to do? Arrest me?" she asked Tucker Carlson on Wednesday night. "No, I am definitely giving the speech."

PENN MOVING TO INCREASE MONITORING OF UNDERGROUND FRATS

Earlier in the day, the conservative commentator tweeted, "I WILL BE SPEAKING NEXT THURSDAY," calling the move to cancel her planned event on April 27 a ban on free speech. Campus Republicans had invited Coulter to speak at Berkeley on the subject of illegal immigration.

The cancellation marked the latest skirmish in a free-speech fight involving conservative voices on college campuses across the country, including at Berkeley. In February, masked rioters at the school smashed windows, set fires and shut down an appearance by former Breitbart News editor Milo Yiannopoulos. Last week, the Berkeley College Republicans said threats of violence forced them to cancel a speech by writer David Horowitz. Writer Charles Murray's appearance at Middlebury saw riots last month, and Heather Mac Donald's speech at Claremont McKenna College was streamed online earlier this month after protesters blocked the door to the venue.

. . . .


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/20/ann-coulter-vows-to-speak-at-berkeley-after-event-called-off.html

A lot of other examples in this thread:  http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=625779.0

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #446 on: February 28, 2018, 07:07:29 PM »
The Democrat memo:

https://www.npr.org/2018/02/26/584585889/fact-check-read-the-democratic-memo-from-the-house-intel-committee

Republicans Refute ‘Point by Point’ Democratic Memo on Dossier
Nunes: the FBI used political dirt paid for by the Democratic Party to spy on an American
Sara Carter    February 25, 2018
https://saraacarter.com/republicans-refute-point-point-democratic-memo-dossier/

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« Reply #447 on: March 02, 2018, 05:24:46 AM »
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #448 on: March 02, 2018, 02:14:15 PM »
The Whitehouse


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« Reply #449 on: March 02, 2018, 03:06:29 PM »
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lol.  You folks keep trying to speak bad things into existence.  It isn't working.