Author Topic: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory (aka The Big Lie)  (Read 224621 times)

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #725 on: June 22, 2018, 08:52:46 AM »
Go to the 17:00 min. mark... absolutely disgusting...

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #726 on: June 22, 2018, 04:47:58 PM »
Funny that the media didn't report on this. Part of Gowdy's questioning yesterday.



Tell me again all about "fake news". 

Suggested? They outright said it.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #727 on: June 22, 2018, 05:28:51 PM »
Tell me again all about "fake news". 

Suggested? They outright said it.

How do you think Flynn feels right about now? These people WERE on the Mueller staff at the beginning of the investigation. Justice is supposed to be blind, not a rabid pit bull
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #728 on: June 23, 2018, 03:10:31 PM »
How do you think Flynn feels right about now? These people WERE on the Mueller staff at the beginning of the investigation. Justice is supposed to be blind, not a rabid pit bull

No matter how unprofessional their behavior was, it is not unique. People gossip and express personal opinions to one another, regardless of their profession, including investigators and law enforcement personnel. Sure, it is wrong, it shows poor work ethics and personal bias when there should be neutrality.

I have no idea how Flynn feels right now. He made a plea deal and he'll just have to live with it for better or for worse. Justice is rarely blind, regardless of what it is supposed to be. If you've ever served on jury duty, been arrested or charged, you already know that there is almost no such thing as blind justice.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #729 on: June 27, 2018, 03:40:45 PM »
No matter how unprofessional their behavior was, it is not unique. People gossip and express personal opinions to one another, regardless of their profession, including investigators and law enforcement personnel. Sure, it is wrong, it shows poor work ethics and personal bias when there should be neutrality.

I have no idea how Flynn feels right now. He made a plea deal and he'll just have to live with it for better or for worse. Justice is rarely blind, regardless of what it is supposed to be. If you've ever served on jury duty, been arrested or charged, you already know that there is almost no such thing as blind justice.
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #730 on: June 28, 2018, 09:46:52 AM »


Aren't you getting tired of all the speculation regarding the Russian conspiracy? I know that I am. Whether pro or con Trump, what he's presently doing should be more newsworthy than what may or may not have happened during the election.

Another issue that doesn't justify the media coverage it's getting is the Stormy Daniels nonsense. Trump's a scoundrel, we knew that before he was elected President and yet people still voted for him and the electoral college sealed the deal. Clearly his "base" isn't interested in Trump's scandals.  

From all appearances, Supreme Court Judges are either conservative or liberal when they should maintain neutrality, ruling on each case based on it's merits. Stacking the Supreme Court with conservative judges is not right. Unfortunately, once we lose fair justice, it will be very difficult to restore it.

Trump playing games with illegal immigrant families' and particularly the children's lives by using them as pawns in order to get your his with Congress is despicable, IMO. It appears that neither side of the illegal immigration problem is really interested in finding solutions.

Personally, I'm very concerned about his attempts to circumvent the Constitution in order to move his agenda which will destroy our democracy. He acts like a dictator. There is no freedom of anything under dictator's rule. Why doesn't the media focus on this issue?  
 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #731 on: June 28, 2018, 09:59:49 AM »
Congressman Jim Jordan is killing Rod Rosenstein on his testimony right now.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #732 on: June 28, 2018, 10:05:31 AM »
Congressman Jim Jordan is killing Rod Rosenstein on his testimony right now.

Future Speaker of the House, Jim Jordan??

Wouldn't that be interesting.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #733 on: July 06, 2018, 12:53:14 PM »
Memos detail FBI’s ‘Hurry the F up pressure’ to probe Trump campaign

http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/395776-memos-detail-fbis-hurry-the-f-up-pressure-to-probe-trump-campaign

Memos the FBI is now producing to the Department of Justice (DOJ) inspector general and multiple Senate and House committees offer what sources involved in the production, review or investigation describe to me as “damning” or “troubling” evidence.

They show Strzok and his counterintelligence team rushing in the fall of 2016 to find “derogatory” information from informants or a “pretext” to accelerate the probe and get a surveillance warrant on figures tied to the future president.

One of those figures was Carter Page, an academic and an energy consultant from New York; he was briefly a volunteer foreign policy adviser for the GOP nominee’s campaign and visited Moscow the summer before the election.

The memos show Strzok, Lisa Page and others in counterintelligence monitored news articles in September 2016 that quoted a law enforcement source as saying the FBI was investigating Carter Page’s travel to Moscow.

The FBI team pounced on what it saw as an opportunity as soon as Page wrote a letter to then-FBI Director James Comey complaining about the “completely false” leak.

“At a minimum, the letter provides us a pretext to interview,” Strzok wrote to Lisa Page on Sept. 26, 2016.

Within weeks, that “pretext” — often a synonym for an excuse — had been upsized to a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court warrant, giving the FBI the ability to use some of its most awesome powers to monitor Carter Page and his activities.

To date, the former Trump adviser has been accused of no wrongdoing despite being subjected to nearly a year of surveillance.

Some internal memos detail the pressure being applied by the FBI to DOJ prosecutors to get the warrant on Carter Page buttoned up before Election Day.

In one email exchange with the subject line “Crossfire FISA,” Strzok and Lisa Page discussed talking points to get then-FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe to persuade a high-ranking DOJ official to sign off on the warrant.

“Crossfire Hurricane” was one of the code names for four separate investigations the FBI conducted related to Russia matters in the 2016 election.

“At a minimum, that keeps the hurry the F up pressure on him,” Strzok emailed Page on Oct. 14, 2016, less than four weeks before Election Day.

Four days later the same team was emailing about rushing to get approval for another FISA warrant for another Russia-related investigation code-named “Dragon.”

“Still an expedite?” one of the emails beckoned, as the FBI tried to meet the requirements of a process known as a Woods review before a FISA warrant can be approved by the courts.

“Any idea what time he can have it woods-ed by?” Strzok asked Page. “I know it’s not going to matter because DOJ is going to take the time DOJ wants to take. I just don’t want this waiting on us at all.”

Until all the interviews are completed by Congress and DOJ’s inspector general later this year, we won’t know why counterintelligence agents who normally take a methodical approach to investigation felt so much pressure days before the election on this case.

Were they concerned about losing a chance to gather evidence at a critical moment? Or maybe, as some Republicans long have suspected, they wanted to impact the election?

The agents got the Carter Page warrant in October and, within two weeks, Democrats in Congress such as then-Sen. Harry Reid (Nev.) and some media members were raising questions about the FBI withholding word of a probe that could hurt Trump. FBI agents monitored those reports, too.

The day after Trump’s surprising win on Nov. 9, 2016, the FBI counterintelligence team engaged in a new mission, bluntly described in another string of emails prompted by another news leak.

“We need ALL of their names to scrub, and we should give them ours for the same purpose,” Strzok emailed Page on Nov. 10, 2016, citing a Daily Beast article about some of former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort’s allegedly unsavory ties overseas.

“Andy didn’t get any others,” Page wrote back, apparently indicating McCabe didn’t have names to add to the “scrub.”

“That’s what Bill said,” Strzok wrote back, apparently referring to then-FBI chief of counterintelligence William Priestap. “I suggested we need to exchange our entire lists as we each have potential derogatory CI info the other doesn’t.” CI is short for confidential informants.

It’s an extraordinary exchange, if for no other reason than this: The very day after Trump wins the presidency, some top FBI officials are involved in the sort of gum-shoeing normally reserved for field agents, and their goal is to find derogatory information about someone who had worked for the president-elect.

As the president-elect geared up to take over, the FBI made another move that has captured investigators’ attention: It named an executive with expertise in the FBI’s most sensitive surveillance equipment to be a liaison to the Trump transition.

On its face, that seems odd; technical surveillance nerds aren’t normally the first picks for plum political assignments. Even odder, the FBI counterintelligence team running the Russia-Trump collusion probe seemed to have an interest in the appointment.

These and other documents are still being disseminated to various oversight bodies in Congress, and more revelations are certain to occur.

Yet, now, irrefutable proof exists that agents sought to create pressure to get “derogatory” information and a “pretext” to interview people close to a future president they didn’t like.

Clear evidence also exists that an investigation into still-unproven collusion between a foreign power and a U.S. presidential candidate was driven less by secret information from Moscow and more by politically tainted media leaks.

And that means the dots between expressions of political bias and official actions just got a little more connected.
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #734 on: July 11, 2018, 03:41:32 AM »
Unlikely, but possible... These people are deranged/unhinged
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #735 on: July 11, 2018, 02:17:15 PM »
Unlikely, but possible... These people are deranged/unhinged

Unless it can be 100% disproved, it is possible.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #736 on: July 11, 2018, 02:30:45 PM »
Unlikely, but possible... These people are deranged/unhinged

Bunch of screwballs.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #737 on: July 11, 2018, 07:13:46 PM »
Unless it can be 100% disproved, it is possible.
Lol

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #738 on: July 19, 2018, 05:27:05 PM »
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #739 on: July 20, 2018, 08:49:11 AM »

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #740 on: July 20, 2018, 03:27:38 PM »


As if Trump has actually achieved these talking points.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #741 on: July 20, 2018, 06:14:49 PM »
As if Trump has actually achieved these talking points.

6+ years left, give it time. 8)
Liar!!!!Filt!!!!

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #742 on: July 22, 2018, 05:38:33 PM »
drip, drip, drip
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #743 on: July 23, 2018, 12:25:50 PM »
Will the 12 Tapes prove collusion?! Or will it prove that a married man had consensual sex with another woman before the election?
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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #744 on: July 23, 2018, 12:36:43 PM »
https://spectator.org/confirmed-john-brennan-colluded-with-foreign-spies-to-defeat-trump


The only conspiracy here is by FAGGETBAMA and the rest of that worthless admn

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #745 on: July 23, 2018, 12:39:11 PM »
Will the 12 Tapes prove collusion?! Or will it prove that a married man had consensual sex with another woman before the election?

If this involved a Democrat, we would have already seen a letter or op ed signed by numerous "legal scholars" talking about how creepy it is for this guy to be recording his clients. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #746 on: July 23, 2018, 12:48:55 PM »

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #747 on: July 23, 2018, 01:17:24 PM »
If this involved a Democrat, we would have already seen a letter or op ed signed by numerous "legal scholars" talking about how creepy it is for this guy to be recording his clients. 

Actually it is extremely unethical for someone's attorney to do this without their clients permission. My guess is anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows to protect themselves when dealing with Trump because he'll turn on them in an instant.

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #748 on: July 23, 2018, 02:32:20 PM »
Actually it is extremely unethical for someone's attorney to do this without their clients permission. My guess is anyone with an ounce of intelligence knows to protect themselves when dealing with Trump because he'll turn on them in an instant.

BS.  Then don't represent him in the first place.  I doubt Trump is the only person he recorded. 

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Re: The Trump-Russia Conspiracy Theory
« Reply #749 on: July 23, 2018, 02:40:10 PM »
The GOP memo was accurate.  Amazing how Democrats are just lockstep lying about this thing.  Bunch of nuts. 

FISA warrant application supports Nunes memo
by Byron York
July 22, 2018
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fisa-warrant-application-supports-nunes-memo