Trump: KKK, White Supremacists 'Repugnant to Everything We Hold Dear'

[Soul Crusher]

That's not true at all. You see what you want to see. Nothing more.

False - show me  examples.   

[TuHolmes]

False - show me  examples.   

No need. You make a blanket generalization and it speaks to its own falsity

Just like it's impossible for anyone to show ALL of anything.

[Soul Crusher]

No need. You make a blanket generalization and it speaks to its own falsity

Just like it's impossible for anyone to show ALL of anything.

False - the liberal movement of today = collectivization of resources and policies, 

[TuHolmes]

False - the liberal movement of today = collectivization of resources and policies, 

No. It's not. Any side has multiple facets. That's like me saying that the conservative movement of today is focus resources on white positive policies while ignoring all of the other intricacies that are policy for conservatives.

Your statement is completely false. As I said before. You see what you want to see.

[Soul Crusher]

No. It's not. Any side has multiple facets. That's like me saying that the conservative movement of today is focus resources on white positive policies while ignoring all of the other intricacies that are policy for conservatives.

Your statement is completely false. As I said before. You see what you want to see.

nonsense - the liberal goal right now is single payer health care right?  Yes or no

[TuHolmes]

nonsense - the liberal goal right now is single payer health care right?  Yes or no

No. The liberal agenda according to liberals is civil liberty, mixed economy, social justice, and equality.

Some believe that a single payer health care system is a step towards that.

You picking one piece and calling it the "agenda" is pretty simplistic.

What do you think the conservative agenda is?

[Soul Crusher]

No. The liberal agenda according to liberals is civil liberty, mixed economy, social justice, and equality.

Some believe that a single payer health care system is a step towards that.

You picking one piece and calling it the "agenda" is pretty simplistic.

What do you think the conservative agenda is?

You are trolling now

[TuHolmes]

You are trolling now

I'm not. I'm giving you a response. Do you choose to answer my question?

[Dos Equis]

How are these folks engaging in peaceful protests?  Now that I've seen these clips, I think Trump is right that there was blame on all sides.  That doesn't change the fact one bit that what any racist stands for is wrong.  Or that if the driver intentionally ran over people he should spend the rest of his life in jail. 

I think we are emboldening leftist fascists to continue to use violence to silence opposing viewpoints.  And as we have seen in Berkeley and other places around the country, they don't simply try and silence bigots.   

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[Coach is Back!]

No. The liberal agenda according to liberals is civil liberty, mixed economy, social justice, and equality.

Some believe that a single payer health care system is a step towards that.

You picking one piece and calling it the "agenda" is pretty simplistic.

What do you think the conservative agenda is?

You really believe this?

[TuHolmes]

You really believe this?

Why wouldn't I? I also believe the conservative agenda as it's written. Don't you? Are you saying that a fringe group may get all the press even if that's not the actual agenda?

Surely not.

[Coach is Back!]

Why wouldn't I? I also believe the conservative agenda as it's written. Don't you? Are you saying that a fringe group may get all the press even if that's not the actual agenda?

Surely not.

Because it's not as simple as Liberal or Republican anymore. I see as breaking down like this.

Democrat =  A little left of center but willing to work with Republicans and Conservatives on certain issues like job creation through capitalism, Military, tax reform and the rest of the issues on board

Liberalism = Socialist at the very least with Marxism/Communism a close second. They are the complete polar opposite of what they claim to represent on almost every issue. Will do ANYTHING for power and little to help America or the people unless you think forcing people to rely on Government subsidies and "free" hand outs is actually benefiting them in some way when in reality it makes them lazy with zero to little incentive to get a job or create wealth to at least for God's have some dignity. Throughout History, it's never worked and never will. Not socialism, not Marxism and sure as hell not communism.

Republican - Like the Democrat, is just right of center

Progressive Republican - The fucktards of the GOP borderline liberal as seen during the last administration when they gave into all of Obama's whims and now fighting Trump on damn near every issue.

Conservative - Not very many left. As much as a populist Trump is, he holds (for the most part) conservative values  

[TuHolmes]

Because it's not as simple as Liberal or Republican anymore. I see as breaking down like this.

Democrat =  A little left of center but willing to work with Republicans and Conservatives on certain issues like job creation through capitalism, Military, tax reform and the rest of the issues on board

Liberalism = Socialist at the very least with Marxism/Communism a close second. They are the complete polar opposite of what they claim to represent on almost every issue. Will do ANYTHING for power and little to help America or the people unless you think forcing people to rely on Government subsidies and "free" hand outs is actually benefiting them in some way when in reality it makes them lazy with zero to little incentive to get a job or create wealth to at least for God's have some dignity. Throughout History, it's never worked and never will. Not socialism, not Marxism and sure as hell not communism.

Republican - Like the Democrat, is just right of center

Progressive Republican - The fucktards of the GOP borderline liberal as seen during the last administration when they gave into all of Obama's whims and now fighting Trump on damn near every issue.

Conservative - Not very many left. As much as a populist Trump is, he holds (for the most part) conservative values  

Can you specify these values?

[Soul Crusher]

Is Mr Trump promoting free markets and laizee faire ideology?

No - Trump is not a conservative at all.  He was attacking amazon today.   Ridiculous. 

[TuHolmes]

No - Trump is not a conservative at all.  He was attacking amazon today.   Ridiculous. 

Exactly.

Anyone who hired Trump because of his "conservative values" got conned and they need to just fess up.

[Soul Crusher]

Exactly.

Anyone who hired Trump because of his "conservative values" got conned and they need to just fess up.

I call it like I see it.  

[Las Vegas]

The Laissez-Faire ways of thinking, against the shit-ton of trouble in this world, has led to America being gutted and turned to rust.  And to overflowing landfills of junk.

So "congratulations" to the greedy and/or careless and/or stupid mothrfckers who allowed for it.  This is on YOU.

[Soul Crusher]

The Laissez-Faire ways of thinking, against the shit-ton of trouble in this world, has led to America being gutted and turned to rust.  And to overflowing landfills of junk.

So "congratulations" to the greedy and/or careless and/or stupid mothrfckers who allowed for it.  This is on YOU.

we have nothing remotely related a free market in naything other than the internet

[Primemuscle]

Since the election I have been avoiding politics.

I am not fan of Trump.  What news i have been unable to avoid has him looking pretty unpresidential at times IMO.

But this latest thing  has been pretty disappointing to me.  It shows just how far news has twisted shit (its just reversed itself since OB).  I saw a headline on cnn.com this weekend that was something like,  "SILENCE from the white house or trump or something."

Suggesting to the casual reader, like myself, that he didn't denounce anything at all.  

Of course that didn't make any sense. So i looked on foxnews.com knowing that if he did say something it would be on there.

Did he not say something to the effect:  "We condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides – on many sides"?

Now, i will concede that he could have had made a better statement.  But FFS.  

Why do we have trudge through mountains of shit all the time?

Can't we just report the dam news without trying to sway public opinion with propaganda all the time?

I've made it no secret that I don't like Trump, either as a person or even more so as President of the U.S. However, I agree that there was fault on both sides of the Charlottesville demonstration. It's not possible to have a contentious and violent riot with only one perspective in play. It is like having a fist fight with yourself....pretty hard to do.

Intentionally driving one's car into a crowd is nuts. There is no way to excuse this person's actions which does seem like domestic terrorism.

Normally I believe honesty is the best policy. Trump's comments are likely his honest opinion. Unfortunately, any President's comments are held to a different standard. Trump would do himself a huge favor if he'd stick to the script. Every time he's gone off-script, he'd dug himself deeper into a hole. At some point, which may already be the case, he won't be able to crawl out of said hole.

The media is vigilantly looking for anything about Trump that they can make newsworthy...a nugget which will fill the broadcasts until the next one comes along.

If we are to believe the media and the leaks, Trump is losing the support he needs from Congress to get anything accomplished with his promised agenda. In the long run, the unfulfilled campaign promises will ruin him. Even his die-hard base will eventually abandon him.    

[Primemuscle]

I just want them (MSM) to STFU and quit pretending to be a Free Press already.  Just come out and admit they have an agenda and maybe we can work forward from there.

What's going on in the media by definition is free press.  The media having an agenda or bias is allowable, but not necessarily ethical. Trump likely wants more control of the media, which is the opposite of free press.

free press

noun
1. a body of book publishers, news media, etc., not controlled or restricted by government censorship in political or ideological matters.

[Primemuscle]

Libfag commies are just as bad as nazis if not worse

Explain....

[Primemuscle]

Because it's not as simple as Liberal or Republican anymore. I see as breaking down like this.

Democrat =  A little left of center but willing to work with Republicans and Conservatives on certain issues like job creation through capitalism, Military, tax reform and the rest of the issues on board

Liberalism = Socialist at the very least with Marxism/Communism a close second. They are the complete polar opposite of what they claim to represent on almost every issue. Will do ANYTHING for power and little to help America or the people unless you think forcing people to rely on Government subsidies and "free" hand outs is actually benefiting them in some way when in reality it makes them lazy with zero to little incentive to get a job or create wealth to at least for God's have some dignity. Throughout History, it's never worked and never will. Not socialism, not Marxism and sure as hell not communism.

Republican - Like the Democrat, is just right of center

Progressive Republican - The fucktards of the GOP borderline liberal as seen during the last administration when they gave into all of Obama's whims and now fighting Trump on damn near every issue.

Conservative - Not very many left. As much as a populist Trump is, he holds (for the most part) conservative values  

Thanks for qualifying these definitions as being your opinion. Everyone is allowed an opinion. It's when opinions are stated as facts that things go awry.

Trump's comments speak for themselves. They don't need to be interpreted ad nauseam by the media. This is my opinion, particularly regarding current events.

[Las Vegas]

What's going on in the media by definition is free press.  The media having an agenda or bias is allowable, but not necessarily ethical. Trump likely wants more control of the media, which is the opposite of free press.

free press

noun
1. a body of book publishers, news media, etc., not controlled or restricted by government censorship in political or ideological matters.

...in pursuit of seeking truth, Prime?  Is that fair to say, in your judgment?

[Las Vegas]

we have nothing remotely related a free market in naything other than the internet

What were we pursuing when we turned into a Made-In-China sorta gal?  A rusted, crime-ridden, unemployed midwest?  County dumps full of refuse?

Exactly WHAT was it that we were after, when everything went to hell?

[TuHolmes]

What were we pursuing when we turned into a Made-In-China sorta gal?  A rusted, crime-ridden, unemployed midwest?  County dumps full of refuse?

Exactly WHAT was it that we were after, when everything went to hell?

Maximum corporate profits and cheap goods.

Just remember, no one forced Americans to buy cheap Chinese shit. We did it all on our own.