Mandalay Bay Shooting - Las Vegas 10/02/17

[Voice of Doom]

I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident. 

Just my $0.02

[Top Poodle]

It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value

Nigga i did too

[cross-of-iron]

Why in Gods name would this guy go to so much trouble to kill 50 people? Seems like he went about it the hard way. All he had to do was rent a large truck and drive it into a large crowd like the one that was shot at and he could have easily taken out 100 people and injured many more. There is no fucking way this guy did this. After all that has come out this whole thing reeks of gun control.

He was a psychopath, his brother is a sociopath. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree...

[delta9mda]

Any and all of the laws that will come as a result of this tragedy are going to be stupid, useless knee-jerk emotional reactions.  I'm pretty sure murder is already against the law.  But that didn't seem to stop this Paddock guy.  It's all just pointless legislative posturing to try and appease the masses that our leaders and lawmakers are getting things done.

you can't legislate morality

[cross-of-iron]

I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident.  

Just my $0.02

Just stop...that theory is absolutely ridiculous and doesn't explain shootings at other casinos. He also didn't have 40 guns in his room.

[Disgusted]

No one knows why.

I hear you but not good enough. By that reasoning anyone on the planet could do this and that sir is what the good old Government wants us to believe.

[Top Poodle]

I think it was an arms deal gone bad.  Nobody has 40 guns and thousands of rounds of ammo with them in one place unless they're doing business.  He was an informant for the FBI (hence the cameras in the room) maybe by choice or maybe by force.  The deal either was known to be bad from the buyers going in or went bad in the process.  The buyers (maybe some Muslim group) decided to turn the tables, killed the guy, smashed a few windows and opened fire to create a diversion/settle score/make political statement.  The FBI had prior knowledge.  The 60 minute time frame between end of shooting and cops coming in was for the FBI to grab the memory sticks from the cameras, arrange the body to look like a suicide, clean up their traces and hastily arrange "evidence".

This is why he had more guns and ammo in his trunk.  Probably to sweeten the deal if needed.  The shooting was clearing a military grade automatic regardless of what was "found" in the room".  The girl who warned people was a hooker that had been staying with him and either got out early or was told to leave.   The Philippines has been a center for American intelligence agencies to move drugs and guns for decades. The GF in the Philippines is that local contact.

That's where he made his real money, why he was always on the move and why he had two small planes.  Also explains why they can't pin a political/religious motive on this and "magically" none of the cameras in the room recorded the incident. 

Just my $0.02

Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly

[Agnostic007]

It is funny how several pages back myself as one of a few called bullshit on what was being reported by all media, the feds the local cops etc and was called out on it yet now this is exactly what is going on

Now people can understand why I dont take any of this bullshit at face value

anytime there is a large incident such as this, it's ok to take the initial info with a grain of salt. Not because it's bullshit , it is because the first days or weeks officials are scrambling to piece together what happened.  They are torn between waiting until the investigation is complete and every I is dotted and every t is crossed, with getting the info out to the public, The key is not creating some stupid theory of conspiracy because of it   

[chaos]

Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

[Agnostic007]

Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

64 Is the new 54

[cross-of-iron]

Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly

   you're terrible.

[Disgusted]

Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

Saw video of him from 2011 walking in a casino where he took a fall. He's no speedy Gonzales.  

[Agnostic007]

Just stop...that theory is absolutely ridiculous and doesn't explain shootings at other casinos. He also didn't have 40 guns in his room.

thanks

[Agnostic007]

Great post.

Also remember the Israeli cache of weapons that went missing from military a few months back

They match the weapons found on screen exactly

You probably just need to go away quietly

[tommywishbone]

LOL!  Saw that too. Boy sure wasn't planning a career with Cirque du Soleil.

[cross-of-iron]

They left out steve's sandwich.

[Agnostic007]

They left out steve's sandwich.

If you're going to condemn Steve for being a high stakes gambler..... no...we are just a tad upset with him killing 58 people

[tommywishbone]

Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

[Agnostic007]

Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

I'm not ready to discount 58 dead and 500+ as a failed attempt. The suicide bomber who takes out 3.. yeah.. but the leading mass murder with a gun.. sucked? Not sure I can get on board with that

[LittleJ]

Pretty amazing for a 64 yo man

Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate

[LittleJ]

Let's not forget how badly this murderer actually sucked.

He had 20,000 people fenced in, shoulder-to-shoulder, many of them had been drinking for hours, none of them were shooting back... and the lame worthless fuck only managed to kill 58. He sucked. Don't pretend he was superman. He was a demented insane prick.

His kind is known to do this. Just another day at the office.

[Agnostic007]

Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate

I don't think he hit 500, a stampede is sometimes worse than the threat itself

[rangerwil]

I too heave hears there are quite a few of NON shooting victims...
Still..

[cross-of-iron]

Yes amazing that he hit over 500 people. Lets celebrate

That wasn't what he was implying you spergburger.

[Top Poodle]

  you're terrible.

Thank you dear bro