I've read the posts in this thread, particularly the last few on this page, and none of you know what the hell you're talking about.
It has nothing to do with being shameless and faking it until you make it. If you're doing it that way, you were never in the game. While you're being punked out and laughed at by the girls you thought you were making headway with while your back's turned for 5 minutes, other guys are already making inroads in those same women with none of the effort. It goes without saying that if you're relying on money (bribery), you've failed to garner their respect in the first place, like the owner of a dog who allows it to live on a diet of dog treats since it refuses normal food because it sees no reason to stick its face in the bowl for half the flavor, pisses and craps where it wants, and eventually runs away. Playing the languishing troubadour (the 'sensitive' artistic guy) is a novelty that won't last more than a month, if that, since there's thirty other guys who can strum a guitar or sing poetry as well, and they're probably on her social media and snapchat app. Relying on your body without having anything remarkable to add beyond lifting your shirt or tensing your arms has the obvious limitation of what the hell are they going to do with your biceps, rub their piss-flaps with them? As soon as a bigger or more cut guy with a better face comes along, you're sunk. Even unattractive women openly admit getting 20, 30, even 40 messages a day at times on the free dating sites and don't open half of them.
If you want to know how it's done, just read this thread. If anyone had it down to a science, it was the maestro of Montenegro. Sure, he had the physique, but that's it. No money to throw around, no sports car parked outside, no wingmen to fake-introduce him around, ESL, average in height (and in the face, honestly) yet he killed it every time he went out. Why? Because there's not twenty ways of doing this. You either get it or you don't.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=517382.0As for this thread, it's a carbon copy of 50 other threads discussing the same tired subject (seems to come up every 3 months) including a longer & better one with more epic posters and funnier replies by a factor of 20:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=479865.0