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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #325 on: November 16, 2023, 09:07:20 AM »
Here's is the BOTTOM line....

Despite 50 years of the theory, HIT theory has failed to produce the promised results. HIT was tried by almost every gym rat in the 70s-80s because, lets face it, who doesn't want the same or better results with less time in the gym? Only problem is..it didn't work well for people.

Look at how the modern bodybuilders who are winning contests train...is it like HIT? or...higher volume? HVT only exists as an ex post facto..meaning, no ones goal is to train "high volume". That is simply what the optimal routine looks like for most people after the routine is planned out. I don't know one person who says "I'm going to do high volume just because..."

Effective routines just happen to look like "HVT" when all is said and done. Volume rules.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #326 on: November 16, 2023, 09:19:34 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #327 on: November 16, 2023, 09:20:13 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #328 on: November 16, 2023, 09:22:45 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #329 on: November 16, 2023, 09:40:18 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #330 on: November 16, 2023, 09:41:13 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #331 on: November 16, 2023, 09:45:58 AM »
methzer at 49 years old. Fat, spaced out, talking like a stroke victim, can barely move, looks like shit.

Vince Taylor at 50 entering the masters at the Olympia looking fantastic. Just goes to show. methzer, like his HIT gimmick, was a dismal failure.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #332 on: November 16, 2023, 10:02:03 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #333 on: November 16, 2023, 10:03:21 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #334 on: November 16, 2023, 10:11:20 AM »
Here's is the BOTTOM line....

Despite 50 years of the theory, HIT theory has failed to produce the promised results. HIT was tried by almost every gym rat in the 70s-80s because, lets face it, who doesn't want the same or better results with less time in the gym? Only problem is..it didn't work well for people.

Look at how the modern bodybuilders who are winning contests train...is it like HIT? or...higher volume?
HVT only exists as an ex post facto..meaning, no ones goal is to train "high volume". That is simply what the optimal routine looks like for most people after the routine is planned out. I don't know one person who says "I'm going to do high volume just because..."

Effective routines just happen to look like "HVT" when all is said and done. Volume rules.

I would describe Hunter Lebrada's training as HIT.


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #335 on: November 16, 2023, 10:13:18 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #336 on: November 16, 2023, 10:15:09 AM »
I would describe Hunter Lebrada's training as HIT.

Nope. Muliple sets. High frequency. Multiply exercises. Nothing like hit.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #337 on: November 16, 2023, 10:16:47 AM »
The real methzer, out of shape fat bastard. Gross.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #338 on: November 16, 2023, 10:21:27 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #339 on: November 16, 2023, 10:22:00 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #340 on: November 16, 2023, 10:34:39 AM »
methzer trying hard, and failing, to get back into former shape. He never did. 🤣


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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #341 on: November 16, 2023, 11:12:38 AM »
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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #342 on: November 16, 2023, 12:33:07 PM »
Two broken old men. Looks like hit did them no favours 🤣

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #343 on: November 16, 2023, 12:37:41 PM »
Two broken old men. Looks like hit did them no favours 🤣

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That video was taken during Ronnie’s reign. They had been retired roughly 20 years at that point.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #344 on: November 16, 2023, 02:51:01 PM »
That video was taken during Ronnie’s reign. They had been retired roughly 20 years at that point.

And look like crap.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #345 on: November 16, 2023, 06:15:57 PM »
Damn didn’t realize Mentzer was only 49 years old when he died.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #346 on: November 17, 2023, 12:27:53 AM »
methzer at 49 years old. Fat, spaced out, talking like a stroke victim, can barely move, looks like shit.

Vince Taylor at 50 entering the masters at the Olympia looking fantastic. Just goes to show. methzer, like his HIT gimmick, was a dismal failure.
If Taylor trained (s)HIT he would have been out of bodybuilding from injury in the early 90's.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #347 on: November 17, 2023, 12:39:17 AM »
Two broken old men. Looks like hit did them no favours 🤣

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Hit-tites

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The Hittites (/ˈhɪtaɪts/) were an Anatolian Indo-European people who formed one of the first major civilizations of Bronze Age West Asia. Possibly originating from beyond the Black Sea,[2] they settled in modern day Turkey in the early 2nd millennium BC. The Hittites formed a series of polities in north-central Anatolia, including the kingdom of Kussara (before 1750 BC), the Kanesh or Nesha kingdom (c. 1750–1650 BC), and an empire centered on Hattusa (around 1650 BC).[3][4] Known in modern times as the Hittite Empire, it reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Šuppiluliuma I, when it encompassed most of Anatolia and parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia.

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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #348 on: November 17, 2023, 04:09:31 AM »
Hit-tites

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hittites

The Hittites (/ˈhɪtaɪts/) were an Anatolian Indo-European people who formed one of the first major civilizations of Bronze Age West Asia. Possibly originating from beyond the Black Sea,[2] they settled in modern day Turkey in the early 2nd millennium BC. The Hittites formed a series of polities in north-central Anatolia, including the kingdom of Kussara (before 1750 BC), the Kanesh or Nesha kingdom (c. 1750–1650 BC), and an empire centered on Hattusa (around 1650 BC).[3][4] Known in modern times as the Hittite Empire, it reached its height during the mid-14th century BC under Šuppiluliuma I, when it encompassed most of Anatolia and parts of the northern Levant and Upper Mesopotamia.



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Re: Mike Mentzer was a genius
« Reply #349 on: November 17, 2023, 05:02:54 AM »
methzer at 49 years old. Fat, spaced out, talking like a stroke victim, can barely move, looks like shit.

Vince Taylor at 50 entering the masters at the Olympia looking fantastic. Just goes to show. methzer, like his HIT gimmick, was a dismal failure.
please post up your physique pictures..back it up stud.