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« Reply #275 on: May 04, 2006, 08:24:21 PM » |
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Who cares if you admit to it? You think it's a big deal to admit you use gear?
Using it isnt the issue...whether you get tested and caught, is the issue.
The point was, when you sign the dotted line, and step on the PDI staage you WILL be violating the rules and you will be suspended, without question.
No Bob it just comes down to being honest.I always answer it honestly that and all questions asked of me.So it isn't a big deal no.But honesty in a whole is. |
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« Reply #276 on: May 04, 2006, 08:26:41 PM » |
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Your missing the point going by their rules (THE IFBB) the majority of pros are guilty is some way or another so if i am to be suspended then others must also be.It's pretty clear cut.
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« Reply #277 on: May 04, 2006, 08:27:01 PM » |
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No Bob it just comes down to being honest.I always answer it honestly that and all questions asked of me.So it isn't a big deal no.But honesty in a whole is.
Great, you're a honest guy, Lee...thats why I like you. Whats that got to do with the issues at hand? |
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« Reply #278 on: May 04, 2006, 08:28:17 PM » |
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Lee I have to say I admire your honesty on this board. I do not understand however, why the athlete's rep is not trying to smooth things over instead of thg fighting that is going on. You have an issue, you are an athlete, and instead of treating you like an important person, it almost seems as though you are in the way. If I am misunderstanding what is happening I am sorry, I'm from Canada eh, so they think we're slow  |
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« Reply #279 on: May 04, 2006, 08:28:23 PM » |
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THIS SHOW HOW INMATURE AND IGNORANT LEE IS ACTING. LEE, JUST GO TO THE PDI AND BE HAPPY, WHY CAUSE ALL THIS DRAMA. YOU ARE ACTING LIKE A DRAMA QUEEN  . WHO IS STOPING FOR GOING TO THE PDI? WHY MAKING ALL THIS NOISE? IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN BE HEARD? OH THANK YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT FOR YOUR INPUT.I WILL FILE THT IN THE WHO GIVES A SHIT ON YOUR COMMENT SECTION  BUT I LOVE YOU SO KEEP POSTING. |
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« Reply #280 on: May 04, 2006, 08:30:36 PM » |
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Great, you're a honest guy, Lee...thats why I like you.
Whats that got to do with the issues at hand?
THE ISSUE IS THE RULES BOB.THEY JUST CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHO TO FINE AND SUSPEND WHEN OTHER ATHLETES ARE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE RULES.FINE I GO PDI I GET SUSPENDED THEN OTHERS FOR BREAKING THE RULES SHOULD ALSO RECIEVE THE SAME PUNISHMENT.READ THE RULES ALL OF THEM AND NOW HOW MANY PROS DO YOU KNOW WHO FIT IN SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS(MALE AND FEMALE)? |
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« Reply #281 on: May 04, 2006, 08:31:52 PM » |
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Your missing the point going by their rules (THE IFBB) the majority of pros are guilty is some way or another so if i am to be suspended then others must also be.It's pretty clear cut.
I'll be glad to explain the difference. Were not talking about COLLECTIVELY being in violation of a rule. Were talking about an INDIVIDUAL blatantly breaking the rules. If were to assume that ALL IFBB pro's use gear, and it's in direct violation of thee rules...fine. They have the right to test us and suspend those in violation. As I stated, If anyone chooses to compete elsewhere, it's a blatant infraction of the rules as they've been in place for 50 years, and suspension is imminent. |
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« Reply #282 on: May 04, 2006, 08:34:18 PM » |
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I'll be glad to explain the difference.
Were not talking about COLLECTIVELY being in violation of a rule. Were talking about an INDIVIDUAL blatantly breaking the rules.
If were to assume that ALL IFBB pro's use gear, and it's in direct violation of thee rules...fine. They have the right to test us and suspend those in violation.
As I stated, If anyone chooses to compete elsewhere, it's a blatant infraction of the rules as they've been in place for 50 years, and suspension is imminent.
Bob there are other rules apart from the drug one.Pornographic material mmmm i see no suspension with male and female on that one.And the list goes on. |
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« Reply #283 on: May 04, 2006, 08:38:43 PM » |
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Lee makes a good point about the porn thing. Everyone knows its gone unchecked among many of the female athletes in the IFBB for too long. For the men they just seem to be ignored on stage rather than officially supended - now that is drama
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« Reply #284 on: May 04, 2006, 08:39:57 PM » |
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THE ISSUE IS THE RULES BOB.THEY JUST CAN'T PICK AND CHOOSE WHO TO FINE AND SUSPEND WHEN OTHER ATHLETES ARE DOING OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE RULES.FINE I GO PDI I GET SUSPENDED THEN OTHERS FOR BREAKING THE RULES SHOULD ALSO RECIEVE THE SAME PUNISHMENT.READ THE RULES ALL OF THEM AND NOW HOW MANY PROS DO YOU KNOW WHO FIT IN SOME OF THOSE SECTIONS(MALE AND FEMALE)?
ALL of the athletes are COLLECTIVELY breaking SOME rule that is written. Whats the IFBB going to do? Suspend everyone? Do I agree with some of these rules....NO. As you know, these are some of the changes I've been trying to initiate...I think they're bullshit as much as you do. There are rules which they CHOOSE to enforce, however, and competing for rival federation is one of them. ENFORCE is the key word here. There are plenty of rules all around us everyday, that everone breaks... Jaywalking is a offense and technically, you can issued a ticket for it....do they enforce it even though it's a LAW? Obviously not since they would be writing tickets to just about everyone in the state. THATS the difference. |
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« Reply #285 on: May 04, 2006, 08:40:12 PM » |
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I THINK LEE PRIEST IS ABOUT TO COME THE MOST HATER PERSON AMONG THE IFBB ATHLETES!!! LEE, YOU ARE A DRAMA QUEEN. QUIT CRYING, GO TO THE PDI AND BE HAPPY.
This post is an example of why there should be a minimum I.Q. (at least room temperature) to post at GetBig. |
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« Reply #286 on: May 04, 2006, 08:42:57 PM » |
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Lee will be ranked #1 in the PDI.. Who will beat him?
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« Reply #287 on: May 04, 2006, 08:43:55 PM » |
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I don't know but to my knowledge Lee is the only pro on here who has at least admitted to using gear. Many pros will not admit to that, nor their involvement in porn, or any other violation. Lee's practically daring to get tested, so what is the big deal? I'd love to hear some more honesty out of other pros in much the same way.
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« Reply #288 on: May 04, 2006, 08:45:36 PM » |
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ALL of the athletes are COLLECTIVELY breaking SOME rule that is written. Whats the IFBB going to do? Suspend everyone?
Do I agree with some of these rules....NO. As you know, these are some of the changes I've been trying to initiate...I think they're bullshit as much as you do.
There are rules which they CHOOSE to enforce, however, and competing for rival federation is one of them.
ENFORCE is the key word here. There are plenty of rules all around us everyday, that everone breaks... Jaywalking is a offense and technically, you can issued a ticket for it....do they enforce it even though it's a LAW? Obviously not since they would be writing tickets to just about everyone in the state.
THATS the difference.
I understand all that Bob.But don't you think if i was to be suspended a good lawyer would take them to court and ask why others have not been.You could just bring in pornographic photos of IFBB athletes and ask what was done to these ifbb pro card carrying pros? .And the list would only go on. |
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« Reply #289 on: May 04, 2006, 08:46:56 PM » |
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HRDCOR WILL BEAT LEE  And if he does great.We are great friends and roomates so the trophy will be coming home anyway |
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« Reply #290 on: May 04, 2006, 08:47:29 PM » |
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I don't know but to my knowledge Lee is the only pro on here who has at least admitted to using gear. Many pros will not admit to that, nor their involvement in porn, or any other violation. Lee's practically daring to get tested, so what is the big deal? I'd love to hear some more honesty out of other pros in much the same way.
the problem with all pros coming "clean" would be the exposure of the sport - we don't need to wave signs that our athletes use - otherwise the gov will shut us down permanent-like. not everyone can be a Lee Priest |
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« Reply #291 on: May 04, 2006, 08:49:09 PM » |
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Bob this is a serious question. What would be the harm in athletes competing in both? i realize it is against the rules but would amending the rules hurt anything?
No harm to the athlete...in a perfect world we would all be able to compete where we wish, etc. But when you sign the contract to be a part of the IFBB, you sign away your rights to compete in other federations...it's called exclusivity and it's very common in sports and business. I have an exclusive contract with BB.com that prohibits me from signing with similiar companies. Granted, I'm compensated for that...but it's along the title of "job". As a sport, the IFBB isn't compensating anyone, but allows it's "members" to compete in their organization and sanctioned shows. If you ndon't like it...no one has a gun to your head to join the iFBB...you can seek other opportunities all you wish, but you can't do both. It's no different than joining an exclusive golf club...there are rules that must be followed if you want to be a member...you pay to be a member, you don't get paid by the club, and there are times you can golf and times you cant. |
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« Reply #292 on: May 04, 2006, 08:51:13 PM » |
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No harm to the athlete...in a perfect world we would all be able to compete where we wish, etc.
But when you sign the contract to be a part of the IFBB, you sign away your rights to compete in other federations...it's called exclusivity and it's very common in sports and business.
I have an exclusive contract with BB.com that prohibits me from signing with similiar companies. Granted, I'm compensated for that...but it's along the title of "job".
As a sport, the IFBB isn't compensating anyone, but allows it's "members" to compete in their organization and sanctioned shows. If you ndon't like it...no one has a gun to your head to join the iFBB...you can seek other opportunities all you wish, but you can't do both.
It's no different than joining an exclusive golf club...there are rules that must be followed if you want to be a member...you pay to be a member, you don't get paid by the club, and there are times you can golf and times you cant.
Yeah but you can also go and play at other clubs. |
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« Reply #293 on: May 04, 2006, 08:52:12 PM » |
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I KNOW, quit with the drama queen crusade already if you would have been on here longer you'd know where Lee is coming from
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« Reply #294 on: May 04, 2006, 08:52:39 PM » |
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ALL of the athletes are COLLECTIVELY breaking SOME rule that is written. Whats the IFBB going to do? Suspend everyone?
Bob, this logic seems to work well for you when you're trying to suspend Lee. Why not use it to get some better benefits and prize money for the athletes? Suppose you were to get EVERY athlete to refuse to compete until prize monies are raised? In your own words, "Whats the IFBB going to do? Suspend everyone?" Of course, it sounds like you're just using the IFBB rulebook when it benefits the IFBB. Not the athletes. |
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« Reply #295 on: May 04, 2006, 08:52:53 PM » |
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THAT WHAT YOU SAY NOW!!! YOU WILL BE CRYING LIKE A DRAMA QUEEN ROOMMATES  Yeah i will cry in happiness for him.We have been friends for over 16 years so try harder and keep digging for crap. |
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« Reply #296 on: May 04, 2006, 08:53:11 PM » |
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I understand all that Bob.But don't you think if i was to be suspended a good lawyer would take them to court and ask why others have not been.You could just bring in pornographic photos of IFBB athletes and ask what was done to these ifbb pro card carrying pros?
.And the list would only go on.
I happen to have a background in law...and no, a good lawyer would not use that as the suspentions of others would be irrelevant to YOUR case. They would look to see if any other athletes that joined the PDI were allowed to still compete in the IFBB, where you were singled out for the same violation. |
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« Reply #297 on: May 04, 2006, 08:53:56 PM » |
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It's almost like marriage.. you can't screw other women..
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« Reply #298 on: May 04, 2006, 08:56:17 PM » |
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Yeah but you can also go and play at other clubs.
Yes you can, as the contract you sign at the club does not preclude you from doing so...YOUR contract does. |
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« Reply #299 on: May 04, 2006, 08:57:10 PM » |
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Chick, I don't always agree with 240, but it looks like this to me too.
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