Vince Basile?

[bailey]

Well Maybe you can have the camera ready for Mike when he gets home....

[TheGoldenPrince]

What is the Lord's position on hypertrophy? 

Why don't you pray and ask Him to guide your misgiuided soul; He created the entire friggin' concept of hypertrophy/anabolism after all. BBers merely uncovered what the Lord Jesus Christ created for us to enjoy in the 1st place.

[pumpster]

I sense a rather unholy vibe from the golden one..godspeed in your unclean thoughts, my prayers are with you.

[bic_staedtler]

Women's competitive bodybuilding might not be as profound as men's, but it's out there.  And those that want breasts along with greater muscle mass will usually go for the implants.

...sorry to go off point, Vince, but this topic of boobs makes me add two cents...just today I was thumbing through the 2 books that Raquel McLish (sic) and DAMN she was awesome.  And those 2 books have her in all sorts of sexy (although ridiculous) pics of her exercise technique....

..one of them is her doing some crossovers...and you can plainly see her fake titties on her fit little body.  And they blamed Cory Everson for starting the fake tits look in womens bbing?  Anyhow, these women looked great.

I know of one ex of mine that dieted for a figure show....AND a bb'ing show, and her tits went to nothing.  She had some nice C's to start and they just dried up and went away...and, to her dismay, she didn't like the fact that if she was to be dieted down, she'd be stuck with what she called her "floppers"...empty breasts!  She told me if she had the funds she'd get fake boobs easily to make up for the loss.

So I don't mind fake ones on competitor women.....or any women for that fact. 

[Vince B]

What we like in women shouldn't impact on bodybuilding. Because you and most other people want to see 'feminine' women they allowed women to use implants. I agree that severe dieting causes the fatty tissue in the beasts to disappear leaving granny boobs behind. No woman wants that. However, because implants are allowed it has led to overuse of steroids that have masculinized women and make them freaks. My apologies to the few natural muscular women out there.

You cannot have it both ways. You would think the IFBB would be severe on testing for the women. However, if they test the women and not the men then they could be charged with sexual discrimination. All this drug use is allowed because Ben and Joe fear competitors deserting for the other federation. They should know. They were the underdogs for decades so they are hardly going to let their hard won status evaporate. You would think they would want to do the right thing now but I guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

[bic_staedtler]

Vince, you're blaming the current state of female bodybuilding and the steroid use involved on FAKE TITTIES???


...yep, you are.  Wow.  I have to say that I much prefer the physiques of Cory E and Rachel M with their fake boobs than the legions that followed.  Granny boobs are not an option, and if they were, then perhaps the UNfeminine attribute of putting 'shredded' female muscle on display is to blame.

The loss of breasts at the expense of shredded beef?  Ok, we're opening a can of worms on this but the fact is V, the 'allowance' of fake boobs on female bb'ers has NOTHING to do and is NOT related to the current state of affairs in female bb'ing.  My opinion of course.

You can't be dieted down without losing your boobs if you're a woman.  That's NOT feminine, but neither is a Ms Olympia physique.  Now I understand your equality of goals between men and women, but in arguing that angle Vince you jeopardize your other valid statements of the state of MEN'S bodybuilding.  Women and men are different, and perhaps the big faux pas fair dinkum was in placing the SAME values in judging women's bbing.  Ok, so they nixed the front lat spread...boy, that did a lot to stop the behemoths of today...shit, let em have the front lat spread, PLEASE, just take away the Giant Clitoris and Bulging Adam's Apple!

[benchmstr]

a lot actually................ ....it turned me into a man
i grew up a lot
gained a ton of respect for bodybuilders!
it changed me totally
it was the toughest thing i have ever gone thru (and i have been thru a lot,alcohol/drug addiction,deaths of many loved ones)
i grew up fast during my contest prep.....went from a boy to a man
it will change you and change your life
try it.................

really it sounds like it just turned you into a cock sucking asshole who thinks he is a tough guy now.

what happend you used to be cool

[Vince B]

Women's bodybuilding has always been controversial. Men are hopeless at being impartial because they let their testosterone get in the way. For some curious reason most men bodybuilders do not fancy women with large muscles. I guess that can be explained by most being just average guys as far as education goes. They have the same attitudes to women bodybuilders as the rest of the public do. Or just about the same attitude.

Anyway, we have a problem because some women are naturally muscular and don't take any drugs. I taught high school with a PE teacher like that. Cuts galore and she never trained. These women could be good bodybuilders. Perhaps they have more testosterone in their bodies compared to average women. When average women lift weights they usually don't build up much muscle. They can do okay in their legs but arms and shoulders respond slowly for them. Then when they diet they look too skinny and unimpressive. So, I guess if you are going to compete for muscles the temptation is too great for steroids, etc. When you allow fake tits you allow them to use steroids and then they can get cut up and still have breasts. It is all a sham and I am against those additions. It spoils the sport. Even the fitness models have those operations. It is almost universal.

As far as I am concerned women bodybuilders should present on stage topless like the men do. That would bring in the crowds. However, in America you elect sheriffs and that sucks because there is always some fanatic who is going to clean up the place. So they lock up prostitutes and arrest nude bathers. What a conservative place America is. Nothing has changed since the 1950s.

You have to start testing both sexes for doping. The IFBB pay lipservice to this but do almost nothing at the professional level. It has killed a great sport. Sure I am amazed at the size some guys get. Heck, some of the women are huge, too. Very impressive. What disappoints is the fake boobs that are obvious, the aged look of the face and the gynocomastia in the men. Gone is the healthy look that bodybuilding used to be associated with. I well remember the crowds going to see Hercules and Hercules Unchained back around 59-60. There was Steve Reeves looking godlike and I must say he inspired me and plenty of other people to try to look better. Guys like Arnold got so big that they put more people off training than not because they looked like cartoon characters.

[pumpster]

A big problem is a number of factors that contribute to an unnatural appearance: the leathery look as mentioned, especially as it applies to the face, the very fake tans, the horse-like appearance of the muscles, the fake boobs and the dried-out looking hair. The entire appearance now looks overly worked on and contrived.

Nothing natural or healthy looking about it vs. the the look that was in vogue until some time in the 80s.

Topeless posing might work as would total nudity. 

[gatrainer]

Topeless posing might work as would total       . 

thats a scary thought....can you imagine some of these women with their hatchet wounds and a big bag of meat hanging down?

[Fury]

Hahahaha, chalk up another thread started by Arvilla that blows up in his face. Even better is the fact that the dumb twunt Cheri came into defend him as usual and they still accomplished nothing.

[michael arvilla]

Hahahaha, chalk up another thread started by Arvilla that blows up in his face. Even better is the fact that the dumb twunt Cheri came into defend him as usual and they still accomplished nothing.

BLOWS UP IN MY FACE!!?!???!

a) it proves vince baslie is an old wind bag who rambles on and on about nothing
b) it also proves you are extremely jealous of me and my girl (hence you follow us from thread to thread like a dog in heat)
c) you are a frustrated wannabe bodybuilder who can't stand it that i actually competed and did well (it eats you up inside)
d)your a puss because you hide and hurl insults from the safety of ur moms bedroom computer
hope this helps..................

[TheGoldenPrince]

BLOWS UP IN MY FACE!!?!???!

a) it proves vince baslie is an old wind bag who rambles on and on about nothing
b) it also proves you are extremely jealous of me and my girl (hence you follow us from thread to thread like a dog in heat)
c) you are a frustrated wannabe bodybuilder who can't stand it that i actually competed and did well (it eats you up inside)
d)your a puss because you hide and hurl insults from the safety of ur moms bedroom computer
hope this helps..................

C'mon Mike, once all that fat came off, you were tall, small and like a beanpole..and you were juiced-up! Even a genetic turd like Goodrum would blow you away after a year-long bulking cycle, along with rest, training and eating under my supervision. You're talkin' outta yer fat ass as if you are my old pal John Defendis. Basile's a weird old fella but at least he' s a weirdo who won a national title while yer a Mexican dipshit who won nuthin'.

[TheGoldenPrince]

I sense a rather unholy vibe from the golden one..godspeed in your unclean thoughts, my prayers are with you.

Sad misguided kid; go clean yer lil' eyes, get a copy of the Bible and start cleanin' yer soul up. Your prayers to Hell will land you in deep crap once you exit this planet and I would hate that to happen to kid like ya.

[michael arvilla]

C'mon Mike, once all that fat came off, you were tall, small and like a beanpole..and you were juiced-up! Even a genetic turd like Goodrum would blow you away after a year-long bulking cycle, along with rest, training and eating under my supervision. You're talkin' outta yer fat ass as if you are my old pal John Defendis. Basile's a weird old fella but at least he' s a weirdo who won a national title while yer a Mexican dipshit who won nuthin'.

  um ok...................... ................

[Dr. Shock]

Photoshopped 

[pumpster]

it also proves you are extremely jealous of me and my girl (

No offense but what's with the constant harping on the girl? I guess i'm not as impressed.

[pumpster]

Sad misguided kid; go clean yer lil' eyes, get a copy of the Bible and start cleanin' yer soul up. Your prayers to Hell will land you in deep crap once you exit this planet and I would hate that to happen to kid like ya.

Thanks that sounds very friendly. God be with you.

[TheGoldenPrince]

  um ok...................... ................

Damn, who's that mutt? An Oriental monkey face only a mother could love (no, I'm not kidding!)...now how's John doing? I haven't heard from him in a few years now. He ok?

[TheGoldenPrince]

Thanks that sounds very friendly. God be with you.

Good boy; I'm being serious now. What people don't realise due to their sin & shortsightedness when they surf porn, bang hookers or do other immoral shit is that that stuf rot their brain...the mind and spirit control sthe body, which eventually crumbles.

[TheGoldenPrince]

  um ok...................... ................

Epic lats...

[pumpster]

Good boy; I'm being serious now. What people don't realise due to their sin & shortsightedness when they surf porn, bang hookers or do other immoral shit is that that stuf rot their brain...the mind and spirit control sthe body, which eventually crumbles.

I'm perfectly willing to entertain your dogmas...as long as you promise to climb down off your soap box and STFU. 

[michael arvilla]

Epic lats...

 http://media.putfile.com/WEST-PALM-SHOW

   

[xpac2]

  um ok...................... ................

Monster chest and gyno

[michael arvilla]

Monster chest and gyno

feel free to post your pics for comparison.............. .....