Everyday training?

[Lugar]

When on, is it detremental to train 7x a week?  I have a very hard time staying out of the gym....if I feel good and have sat in an office all day, is it truly detremental to do SOMETHING daily?

[Overload]

I'm a true believer in rest and letting everything heal as best as possible so i only train with wieghts 4 days a week.

on the weekends i might play basketball or do some swimming out in the sun...

to answer your question i don't think it's a good idea to train hard with weights more than 5 days a week but doing "something" like cardio or just any physical activity probably won't hinder gains too much, if at all.

my problem is if i'm too physical during the week my shoulders and knees start to ache, that is one reason why i usually never do anything physical on sunday or wendsday, i just let everything rest. if i'm cutting weight i'll do some light cardio on those days.

[Lugar]

I am trying to put on lean mass....stay as lean as possible, but gain some mass.....alot of mass, hell I'm 6'1 and about 165....wet......but 7-8% bf....prob is I sit all day and I did 25 mins of light cardio this am with abs.....I am afraid that since i didnt train, I limit my carb intake in the pm and tomorrow Ill be even weaker.....

[wes mantooth]

I am trying to put on lean mass....stay as lean as possible, but gain some mass.....alot of mass, hell I'm 6'1 and about 165....wet......but 7-8% bf....prob is I sit all day and I did 25 mins of light cardio this am with abs.....I am afraid that since i didnt train, I limit my carb intake in the pm and tomorrow Ill be even weaker.....

six one...165 wet....i wouldnt worry about staying lean...id worry about falling through the drain when you take a shower!!!!!!

seriously, if youre on and training intensely, dont worry about getting fat. it sounds like your metabolism is heated anyway. food is #1, training is a close second, then rest, then drugs. dont limit your carb intake like a crazy man, YOU NEED THE CARBS AT  165!!!!!

train on a 3 on, 1 off, and for gods sake....dont eat like a bodybuilder!

[udeluz]

I go to the gym just about everyday, even if its just to run for 20-30 minutes, I can't stay away!!!!

[Arnold jr]

and for gods sake....dont eat like a bodybuilder!

Why not? Doesn't he need the calories if he's only 165, especially at his height? Explain your comment.

[wes mantooth]

Why not? Doesn't he need the calories if he's only 165, especially at his height? Explain your comment.

absolutely......he needs calories....but he doesnt need to kill himself with chicken breasts and yams for the next 12 weeks. he needs to EAT. he can afford to get a little dirty with the diet.....hes a bean pole (not in a bad way lugar...im not making fun of you...merely commenting)

[udeluz]

Hey Alexxx that mayhem, meltdown homo shot does not work here, try all you want

Now who is the clown?

Loser

[Luv2Hurt]

I think he means dont eat the typical brown rice, brocoli and chicken or fish diet.  This cat needs some calorie dense food I would say potatos, beef, peunut butter, avacados, beans etc.  that kind of stuff.  I think Lugar has some issues.  Worried about getting fat all the time, when he is soooo skinny.  I have not weighed 165 since jr high and im 5'7" Alright I was a "husky" kid LOL

[ZEEK]

Im lucky if I can get in the gym twice a week i have been working and i got a baby on the way. I need to find more time. how do i stop the CLOCK?

[Arnold jr]

how do i stop the CLOCK?

there has to be a drug out there for that too

[Lugar]

this is what I have going on right now and I am having a really rough time getting it all in......thoughts?      700AM
3/4 CUP  OATS
6 whites
.25 liq whites
1SCOOP WHEY
1/2 CUP SKIM/COFFEE

10AM
1 CUP OATS
6OZ CHX


NOON
 6OZ CHX
8 OZ YAM
LARGE SALAD, VEGIES---


3PM
2 SCOOPS CASEIN
1TB PB
 

TRAIN5-630

3 SERVINGS GATORADE
1 SCOOP WHEY

6:30
1 SCOOP WHEY
2 SERVINGS CREAM OF RICE
 


730
4OZ CHICKEN, 4OZ SALMON
1 CUP OATS


915
6 oz COTTAGE CHEESE
2tb pb

[mem]

Lugar we have kind of been
over this at times before,
we are all here to help
each other . . .

BUT some people ask for advice and
GO AHEAD and keep doing the same
mistaken things, what about you?

Classic OVERTRAINING appears to be the case
with your program dude. Also EASY to do TOO much
cardio, IF one IS TRYING to bulk man . . .

(NO flame intended)

Sorry to say this . . .
Its NO wonder you cannot put
on size and your hormones
are seemingly unstable.

Increasing caloric density
and greater amounts
of inactivity or rest
needed to grow . . .
(drugs or not)

Optimum Sports Nutrition
a must read for someone
who asks the questions
that you do . . .

http://www.amazon.com/Optimum-Sports-Nutrition-Your-Competitive/dp/0962484059

I have struggled with many aspects
of your diet and training routines
(as expressed in threads)
sorry to say that.

Your posts have all held a similar
slant to them, I never have felt
like I could help you that much.

Buy this book IT would be the best
$$ that you'll spend to help you
tailor you program better . . .

Good Luck !!!

[Overload]

i remember this guy now...we've tried to help time and time again.

he just doesn't understand...


 

[wes mantooth]

this is what I have going on right now and I am having a really rough time getting it all in......thoughts?      700AM
3/4 CUP  OATS
6 whites
.25 liq whites
1SCOOP WHEY
1/2 CUP SKIM/COFFEE

10AM
1 CUP OATS
6OZ CHX


NOON
 6OZ CHX
8 OZ YAM
LARGE SALAD, VEGIES---


3PM
2 SCOOPS CASEIN
1TB PB
 

TRAIN5-630

3 SERVINGS GATORADE
1 SCOOP WHEY

6:30
1 SCOOP WHEY
2 SERVINGS CREAM OF RICE
 


730
4OZ CHICKEN, 4OZ SALMON
1 CUP OATS


915
6 oz COTTAGE CHEESE
2tb pb

couple of eggs, a little piece of chicken, and a little piece of salmon.......and a SHITLOAD of nada!!!

see what i mean? youre trying to eat like a contest diet bodybuilder....why? with overtraining and undereating all you will gain is motivation loss....


do you eat steak/ red meat?
can you eat more chicken?
baked potatoes....with butter?
a pancake every once in a while?

eat like a real person....make gains...then adjust accordingly. fuck 87 scoops of protein a day....you barely evan chew any of the meals you listed!!!!!!!  cut your powders down to breakfast and post workout and EAT THE REST OF YOUR CALORIES!

[Princess L]

i remember this guy now...we've tried to help time and time again.

he just doesn't understand...


 

He understands just fine but refuses to ACCEPT the fact that he has a problem.  He knows he can't "fix it" alone, yet he won't seek professional help.


http://onhealth.webmd.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56673

[mem]

Holy Sh!t
Good call
Princess L

there appear to be
a number of things
at play here . . .

[sportingsteroids]

When on, is it detremental to train 7x a week?  I have a very hard time staying out of the gym....if I feel good and have sat in an office all day, is it truly detremental to do SOMETHING daily?

i train 3 to 4 days a week... and feel good...

[Overload]

He understands just fine but refuses to ACCEPT the fact that he has a problem.  He knows he can't "fix it" alone, yet he won't seek professional help.


http://onhealth.webmd.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=56673

You're right...it's just that he never uses our advice. He asks the same questions over and over again.

[Lugar]

I realize everyday is DUMB and I apologixe for that post....2 days off a week for me is adequate


As for the diet?  How can it be slammed as a diet or cutting diet?  It's 4200+ cals and I am up 12lbs in 4 weeks.....does it need to get dirtier?

[Lugar]

Oh and I allow myself two fat cheat days on the weekend..usually its a huge out to dinner meal and then a huge desert from the icr cream joint.....I've switched my preworkout formula to 4 oz lean beef and 4oz chicken.....or 8oz chicken 2tb of flax

[sportingsteroids]

i like beef,,

[ignorance]

there has to be a drug out there for that too

Lol

Now I hate TA for this but you might want to try his gay diet just for a week. Then back to your regular food.

As for your cals try this for a breakfast meal, just once to see if you like it.

3x30g of oatmeal [grounded]
2 scoops of whey [est. 21g protien]
hand full of raisins
and teaspoon of Cinnamon

The Breakdown:

87g of complex carbs
15g simple carbs
42g of protein
Nice taste, alittle chunky but good.

How to make, add the oatmeal and whey together, add water [not alot just enough] throw in the raisins and the Cinnamon , then microwave for one minute. Stir and nuke again for 30 seconds.

[Lugar]

6:30am - 1cup Oats + 1scp whey + 1tbsn flax + BCAA/Glutamine + 25 g of protein from liquid egg whites 
1 CUP OATS
1TB FLAX
EGG WHITES
1/2 SCOOP
BCAAS


Prot(50) - Carbs(50) - Fat(10g)

9:00am – 6-8oz chicken breast + 1tb of pb +1cup oats.
Prot(60) - Carbs(50) - Fat(15)

6OZ CHICKEN
1 CUP OATS



12:00p - 6oz Turkey or lean beef + 8ozSweetpotato + Veggies
Prot(60) - Carbs(75) - Fat(approx. 5g max)
6OZ CHICK/TUNA/TURKEY
8OZ YAM


3pmp – 6oz tuna steak or lean beef + 1tb of olive oil.
Prot(60) - Carbs(minimal) - Fat(14)
6OZ TUNA/CHICK/TURKY/LEAN BEEF
1 TB OLIVE OIL

4:45p (Train)
BCAA's <5g>
L-Glutamine + peptide <5g>
CEE (Creatine Ethyl Ester) <5g>
.



6:00p PWO - 2scp protein blend + ½ cups oats, 6-10 rice cakes
Prot(50) - Carbs(75) - Fat(0)
1 CUP RICE KRISPIES
1/4 CUP OATS
1 CUP OTHER WHEAT
2 SCOOPS BLEND
2 RICE CAKES W/ JELLY


7:15p PPWO - 6ozChicken or Turkey/1scp whey + 1 cup oats + 1cup Veg
Prot(50) - Carbs(50) - Fat(0) 
6-8OZ CHX/BEEF
1 CUP OATS


900p Shake – 6-8oz chicken/lean beef, 1tb of flax
Prot(50) - Carbs(2) - Fat(15) b
1TB FLAX

915 - BED

12:30a –If I wake up
Fish,chiecken or beef or a protein blend.
Prot(50) - Fat(10)

~Total Macros~
Prot: 400-450g
Carbs: 350-400g
Fat: 100-110g
Total calories (approx) = 4000 =


up 15lbs on my new cutting diet fellas............thanks for all the help...........

[Arnold jr]

up 15lbs on my new cutting diet fellas............thanks for all the help...........

You're up 15lbs on a cutting diet