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Need a reliable link. Anyone?
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One of the cool benefits of belonging to a UFC Gym is you get to watch all of the fights for free.
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Tonight?
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One of the cool benefits of belonging to a UFC Gym is you get to watch all of the fights for free.
Not helpful coach.
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That was a brutal heel hook
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hdsports.me
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Need a reliable link. Anyone?
god will destroy all that is more reliable
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One of the cool benefits of belonging to a UFC Gym is you get to watch all of the fights for free.
Where? At the gym?
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no links?
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https://old.reddit.com/r/MMAStreams/comments/aapdwx/event_thread_ufc_232_jones_vs_gustafsson_2_1000pm/
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Cyborg knocked the fuck out by Nunes.
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Cyborg knocked the fuck out by Nunes.
Sooooo bummed about this :'(
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the dyke king
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great white hope had no hope
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the dyke king
Who?
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great white hope had no hope
Gustafsson looked like he was sleep walking.
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Piece of cake for Jonny Jones. DC can now get his fat fucking head kicked in for the 3rd time. Jon Jones = GOAT!!!
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Piece of cake for Jonny Jones. DC can now get his fat fucking head kicked in for the 3rd time. Jon Jones = GOAT!!!
DC should retire. Near 40 and no chance against the druggie.
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DC should retire. Near 40 and no chance against the druggie.
DC said he planned to retire in March
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Who?
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Michael Chiesa looked much better at 170 than 155. Carlos Condit is done. The game has passed him by and his skills haven't evolved.
I love Cyborg and Nunez. Was hoping for a 5 round war where they both are elevated. Cyborg was too amped up and wreckless. I think she can and will do better in a rematch but I will stop short of predicting a win for her. Could be a case of Cain and JDS. Hopefully, we'll find out. One thing that is for sure is that Amanda Nunez deserves to be the main event for now on. She's earned it.
Jon Jones? For fuck sakes is he good. He is the Sugar Ray Robinson of MMA. Watching the fight, my 1st observation was that he looked much better in round 1 of the rematch. Halfway through round 2, I thought Gus may have been getting into it a little but then Jon flipped the switch and dominated him the last 90 seconds. I said to a co worker before the 3rd that he's going to punish him in the 3rd and stop him in the 4th. Guess I was wrong. LOL. Gus is going to end up being the best UFC light heavyweight to never win the belt. Too bad for him he came around in the Jones/DC era.
Back to Jones. He is so talented. So genetically blessed. So athletic. So damn smart. DC doesn't need any more of Jon Jones. It will only get worse. I am convinced that Jon Jones could have been an NBA point guard or an NFL tight end or safety. He is truly special.
I've been a boxing fan my whole life and only started with the UFC in about 2011. It was actually Jon Jones fight that drew me to the sport. I think it was when he choked out Machida whilst standing up. Boxing has a richer history and all that but in 2019, it takes a backseat to MMA and unfortunately probably for the foreseeable future.
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Jones smart.. ::)
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Jones smart.. ::)
Yes, his fighting IQ is unrivaled.
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Michael Chiesa looked much better at 170 than 155. Carlos Condit is done. The game has passed him by and his skills haven't evolved.
lol what does that even mean is it because condit doesnt propel kicks off the cage?
I love Cyborg and Nunez. Was hoping for a 5 round war where they both are elevated. Cyborg was too amped up and wreckless. I think she can and will do better in a rematch but I will stop short of predicting a win for her. Could be a case of Cain and JDS. Hopefully, we'll find out. One thing that is for sure is that Amanda Nunez deserves to be the main event for now on. She's earned it.
not with that accent
Back to Jones. He is so talented. So genetically blessed. So athletic. So damn smart. DC doesn't need any more of Jon Jones. It will only get worse. I am convinced that Jon Jones could have been an NBA point guard or an NFL tight end or safety. He is truly special.
apples & grapefruits
I've been a boxing fan my whole life and only started with the UFC in about 2011. It was actually Jon Jones fight that drew me to the sport. I think it was when he choked out Machida whilst standing up. Boxing has a richer history and all that but in 2019, it takes a backseat to MMA and unfortunately probably for the foreseeable future.
boxing popularity has always been cyclical as a fan you would know that,boxing takes a backseat to the ufc if conor regains the title, brock becomes champ and jones gets his nevada licensing
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UFC 232 was disappointing.
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B.J. Penn, please retire. :-\
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Michael Chiesa looked much better at 170 than 155. Carlos Condit is done. The game has passed him by and his skills haven't evolved.
I love Cyborg and Nunez. Was hoping for a 5 round war where they both are elevated. Cyborg was too amped up and wreckless. I think she can and will do better in a rematch but I will stop short of predicting a win for her. Could be a case of Cain and JDS. Hopefully, we'll find out. One thing that is for sure is that Amanda Nunez deserves to be the main event for now on. She's earned it.
Jon Jones? For fuck sakes is he good. He is the Sugar Ray Robinson of MMA. Watching the fight, my 1st observation was that he looked much better in round 1 of the rematch. Halfway through round 2, I thought Gus may have been getting into it a little but then Jon flipped the switch and dominated him the last 90 seconds. I said to a co worker before the 3rd that he's going to punish him in the 3rd and stop him in the 4th. Guess I was wrong. LOL. Gus is going to end up being the best UFC light heavyweight to never win the belt. Too bad for him he came around in the Jones/DC era.
Back to Jones. He is so talented. So genetically blessed. So athletic. So damn smart. DC doesn't need any more of Jon Jones. It will only get worse. I am convinced that Jon Jones could have been an NBA point guard or an NFL tight end or safety. He is truly special.
I've been a boxing fan my whole life and only started with the UFC in about 2011. It was actually Jon Jones fight that drew me to the sport. I think it was when he choked out Machida whilst standing up. Boxing has a richer history and all that but in 2019, it takes a backseat to MMA and unfortunately probably for the foreseeable future.
Great post and yes, JON JONES = THE BEST MMA FIGHTER OF ALL TIME. He can adjust to anything midfight. He adaptability is insane. Not to sure what's worth it in heavyweight outside of DC. Lesnar is a joke.
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Jones is right up there with Canelo as far as drug cheats go. Hate to get the combat goddess get knocked out like that by a man.
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Imagine when Martyn Ford gets hold of Jones!!
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Imagine when Martyn Ford gets hold of Jones!!
Jones will never fight Martyn Ford. He would take one look at that dangerous tatted up bad boy bodybuilder and retire. 5% for life!!!
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Jones is right up there with Canelo as far as drug cheats go. Hate to get the combat goddess get knocked out like that by a man.
it not cheating when everybody is doing it, theyre terrible at cycling not cheating
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Jones is scary because he is a wrestler.... who will first kick the shit out of your legs... before he takes you down.
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I garantee a decent size rugby or football guy would run through jones. Gustaffasen looks to have been in concentration camp
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Where? At the gym?
Yes. One of the best gyms I’ve ever belonged too.
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B.J. Penn, please retire. :-\
A good betting strategy in MMA is to bet against the veteran. They to get too much respect in the betting pools. Three of them went down last night, Penn, Condit and Mendes. Arlovski won but it was a controversial decision.
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I thought the pit bull arloviski lost..
Amanda is annoying..
Bummed cyborg didn't knock the shit out of her.
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Brutal ;D
Quote from Sherdog
Thread started by this guy w/criticism:
“Gus sat out for 2 years for a title shot and that’s all he had?? SMH. He really sat around and did nothing and thought he was gonna give Jones a war”
Response:
“OK fatboy. Curious what have you accomplished in the past 2 years? LOL. Don't answer, we know. You posted on Sherdog”
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Cyborg knocked the fuck out by Nunes.
It’s BS. She’s the best but it’s ridiculous that she has to drop 35 lbs. to fight in a class. Guaranteed if she didn’t have to kill her self for a week before the fights to make weight she would have won easily.
They need to let her fight without forcing her to drop that kind of weight. Dana needs to do his ducking job.
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Damn I watched the first fight on youtube. ;D Just watched the rematch. I was telling everyone how I thought Jones lost.
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It’s BS. She’s the best but it’s ridiculous that she has to drop 35 lbs. to fight in a class. Guaranteed if she didn’t have to kill her self for a week before the fights to make weight she would have won easily.
They need to let her fight without forcing her to drop that kind of weight. Dana needs to do his ducking job.
she got destroyed . when she realized nunes hit harder than her it was over, cyborg got beat at her own game, she couldnt bully amanda and paid the price. nunes is a terminator, that whore ronda found out just like cyborg , if you go toe to toe with amanda you lose.
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Piece of cake for Jonny Jones. DC can now get his fat fucking head kicked in for the 3rd time. Jon Jones = GOAT!!!
Lol guys only fought 1 competitor his own size = bully who eye pokes and needs steroids to fight guys 6 inches shorter than him.
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Lol guys only fought 1 competitor his own size = bully who eye pokes and needs steroids to fight guys 6 inches shorter than him.
How's that his fault? It's weight limit, not height limit. Mike Tyson at 5'11.5 had no problems routinely beating peoplease several inches taller than him.
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How's that his fault? It's weight limit, not height limit. Mike Tyson at 5'11.5 had no problems routinely beating peoplease several inches taller than him.
Pretty sure he knows he's on steroids and I know he realizes it when he sticks his fingers in other fighters eyes.
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nunes would kill jones.
he's lucky mixed martial arts isnt mixed.
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How's that his fault? It's weight limit, not height limit. Mike Tyson at 5'11.5 had no problems routinely beating peoplease several inches taller than him.
I’ve heard that Tyson was listed at 5’11.5”, but his true height may have been closer to 5’9”. I’m sure that Darren Avery can confirm his accurate height
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I’ve heard that Tyson was listed at 5’11.5”, but his true height may have been closer to 5’9”. I’m sure that Darren Avery MattC can confirm his accurate height
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jones is a boring fighter to watch. i dont care how good he is.
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im impressed by Douglas Silva de Andrade.
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Pretty sure he knows he's on steroids and I know he realizes it when he sticks his fingers in other fighters eyes.
That's your opinion and on both accounts.
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That's your opinion and on both accounts.
the eye poking is pretty apparent on all jones fights
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the eye poking is pretty apparent on all jones fights
That is an gross exaggeration. Second, if the ref felt they were blatant, he'd be called on it. Finally, he wins his fights because he has the best fight IQ I've ever seen in MMA. He can adapt, he knows tendencies, etc. His height and reach and his arsenal. Eye pokes, no you and others just don't like him. Same with PEDs, it's just and excuse because people don't like him. The reason his alleged intentional PED use is harped on is because he's the best all time and people are trying to discredit it. ::)
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That is an gross exaggeration. Second, if the ref felt they were blatant, he'd be called on it. Finally, he wins his fights because he has the best fight IQ I've ever seen in MMA. He can adapt, he knows tendencies, etc. His height and reach and his arsenal. Eye pokes, no you and others just don't like him. Same with PEDs, it's just and excuse because people don't like him. The reason his alleged intentional PED use is harped on is because he's the best all time and people are trying to discredit it. ::)
Lol get real dude, he continuously gets caught doing stupid shit. PED's being one of them, that is why many don't like this guy
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That is an gross exaggeration. Second, if the ref felt they were blatant, he'd be called on it. Finally, he wins his fights because he has the best fight IQ I've ever seen in MMA. He can adapt, he knows tendencies, etc. His height and reach and his arsenal. Eye pokes, no you and others just don't like him. Same with PEDs, it's just and excuse because people don't like him. The reason his alleged intentional PED use is harped on is because he's the best all time and people are trying to discredit it. ::)
He might just be the best ever but his repeated busts for drugs taint his credibility and there's plenty of videos of his eye pokes. Maybe he needs a new "nutritionist" that knows when to stop using so he doesn't get caught.
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That is an gross exaggeration. Second, if the ref felt they were blatant, he'd be called on it. Finally, he wins his fights because he has the best fight IQ I've ever seen in MMA. He can adapt, he knows tendencies, etc. His height and reach and his arsenal. Eye pokes, no you and others just don't like him. Same with PEDs, it's just and excuse because people don't like him. The reason his alleged intentional PED use is harped on is because he's the best all time and people are trying to discredit it. ::)
I don't discredit jones, because he does win, and I do see him being the GOAT, but he does have some taint to this god image of him that you guys (not meaning blacks, fans) spew out! if you have actually seen a jones fight you would know what i'm talking about, not just some highlight because you became his fans like 1-2 fights ago lol
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I don't discredit jones, because he does win, and I do see him being the GOAT, but he does have some taint to this god image of him that you guys (not meaning blacks, fans) spew out! if you have actually seen a jones fight you would know what i'm talking about, not just some highlight because you became his fans like 1-2 fights ago lol
Who are you to have to prove my credibility how much I watch or know about fighting? Lol!!! You don't know how much I've watched, what fights I've went to, nothing. You may want to check people's post history before making assumptions unless you don't care about looking foolish.
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Lol get real dude, he continuously gets caught doing stupid shit. PED's being one of them, that is why many don't like this guy
I don't need a guy to be a boyscott to be considered the best. That shit's for TV and squares. Can he fight and can he win? Yes and yes. Outside of DC and a handful of others, I believe what Nate Diaz said, EVERYONE is on them.
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He might just be the best ever but his repeated busts for drugs taint his credibility and there's plenty of videos of his eye pokes. Maybe he needs a new "nutritionist" that knows when to stop using so he doesn't get caught.
Again, the refs deem the eye pokes unintentional. Coke? I don't care. PEDs, passed a polygraph. Furthermore, the amount metabolites found in his system, laughable. Dude has been winning since the day he stepped foot in UFC and making legends look ordinary. Whose as did he kick that hurt your feelings? Lol
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Straight from big mouth.
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I’ve heard that Tyson was listed at 5’11.5”, but his true height may have been closer to 5’9”. I’m sure that Darren Avery Danimal77 can confirm his accurate height
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It’s BS. She’s the best but it’s ridiculous that she has to drop 35 lbs. to fight in a class. Guaranteed if she didn’t have to kill her self for a week before the fights to make weight she would have won easily.
They need to let her fight without forcing her to drop that kind of weight. Dana needs to do his ducking job.
What are you talking about? Dana doesn't force anybody to fight at any weight unless you hold two titles simultaneously as Amanda just did. As it stands now, she's the Bantam-weight and Featherweight champion. If you want to challenge her for those titles you have to make that weight. It's not his job to have any fighter compete at that weight.
I'm sure Cyborg would love to just compete at Welter-weight but there are no women worth fighting at that weight that anybody wants to watch.
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jones is a boring fighter to watch. i dont care how good he is.
That's because you know nothing about MMA. Jones skill level is unworldly. When I first saw him fight Stephan Bonner back in 1999 I was blown away by his performance. Displaying moves never seen before and tweaking traditional techniques to make it work for him. Nobody can seem to match his stand up and, true, his height plays a huge role in this, but I think he's even better on the ground and no one in his weight class is near his level in that respect. When you can't be beat standing and can't be beaten on the ground, you can't be beaten. He's currently the best MMA fighter the UFC has ever had. And by a pretty good margin.
Boring fighter? That says more about you than Jones. He's one of the biggest draws and cash cows that the UFC has right now which is why they will do all that hand waving, winks and nods, envelop-passing, and lie and cheat to make sure he stays on the card.
I've always defended the UFC regarding corruption but under this new regime and this latest episode, it's obvious that some are going to be treated more "fairly" than others. This was bullshit but it's over. People already forgot and they will be there for the next show with dollars in hand as well as waiting with bated breath for the next Jon Jones fight.
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I don't discredit jones, because he does win, and I do see him being the GOAT, but he does have some taint to this god image of him that you guys (not meaning blacks, fans) spew out! if you have actually seen a jones fight you would know what i'm talking about, not just some highlight because you became his fans like 1-2 fights ago lol
You don't think Wiggs, or any of us, has "actually seen a jones fight"? Please be more specific. Obviously, you are far more knowledgeable than we are. I am sure you can find that he is not perfect and doesn't perform perfectly 100% of the time but the question is not that we don't "know what you are talking about" but what are you talking about compared to whom?
And for the record, I am not a Jones's fan and hoped he would have gotten buried last Saturday. I think he's a narcissistic, self-absorbed, selfish low life. I was so surprise that nobody seem to care or make an issue when during the last seconds of his second fight with D.C. he raised his arms in victory prior to the bell while both were in a clinch making D.C. think the fight was over and stopped with his hands on his side and then Jones turned to give him a last-second punch to the face.
What a scum-bag.
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Straight from big mouth.
I've never watched or heard any of Brendan's commentary other than the two vids posted on this thread.
That guy just nails it.
I have to pay attention to him more.
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That's because you know nothing about MMA. Jones skill level is unworldly. "
Boring fighter? That says more about you than Jones. He's one of the biggest draws and cash cows that the UFC
not only boring but over rated... its easy to look good depending on who you fight.
against bonner... 3 round decision win, bonner went on and lost 2 in a row aftwards, shows you how good he was at the time ::)
against jake o brian... jake was thrown out of ufc afterwards, thats telling me he wasnt at the top of his game otherwise ufc wouldve kept him.
against brandon vera... who afterwards had 1 no contest, 1 win, 2 losses and was thrown out of the ufc...
against vladimir... 2 minute fight, cant remember
against ryan bader... bader was boring as hell to watch at this time, slightly less boring now.
against shogun, shogun was losing every other fight at this time, way past his prime...
against rampage... no comment. rampage hasnt been good for a decade
against machida... machida had 2 outta 3 losses leading up to jones... closing in at 3 losses in 4 fights in the year 2010-2011... thats a close to get cut record...
against rashad... good matchup i suppose but i cant imagine 3 round decision being that entertaining between these two.
against senior citizen belfort... ok fight i suppose
against senior citizen chael sonnen... hardly fun to watch.
against alex gustafson... finally a fight worth watching! and he almost lost.
against senior citizen glover... couldnt finish him in 5 rounds
against senior citizen dc... ok fight
against OSP... boring.
against senior citizen dc again...
against alex again...
yeah greatest of all time and all of that... and what a bunch of ENTERTAINING fights! ::)
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not only boring but over rated... its easy to look good depending on who you fight.
against bonner... 3 round decision win, bonner went on and lost 2 in a row aftwards, shows you how good he was at the time ::)
against jake o brian... jake was thrown out of ufc afterwards, thats telling me he wasnt at the top of his game otherwise ufc wouldve kept him.
against brandon vera... who afterwards had 1 no contest, 1 win, 2 losses and was thrown out of the ufc...
against vladimir... 2 minute fight, cant remember
against ryan bader... bader was boring as hell to watch at this time, slightly less boring now.
against shogun, shogun was losing every other fight at this time, way past his prime...
against rampage... no comment. rampage hasnt been good for a decade
against machida... machida had 2 outta 3 losses leading up to jones... closing in at 3 losses in 4 fights in the year 2010-2011... thats a close to get cut record...
against rashad... good matchup i suppose but i cant imagine 3 round decision being that entertaining between these two.
against senior citizen belfort... ok fight i suppose
against senior citizen chael sonnen... hardly fun to watch.
against alex gustafson... finally a fight worth watching! and he almost lost.
against senior citizen glover... couldnt finish him in 5 rounds
against senior citizen dc... ok fight
against OSP... boring.
against senior citizen dc again...
against alex again...
yeah greatest of all time and all of that... and what a bunch of ENTERTAINING fights! ::)
Jones has beaten everybody in his division and all you have to say is that all his opponents suck. DC beat everyone at light heavy and just won the HW title and has only lost to Jones but he sucks too because you think he's too old. You can criticize him all you want but compared to whom? He's beaten everybody. You're essentially saying all the fighters suck. Well then, where are all the good LWH fighters in the world?
Nobody becomes as popular as Jones by being boring. He's an exciting fighter that's inspiring to watch because of his unmatched talent and skill. All the fighters, whether they like him or hate him, will attest to that. You simply lack the sophistication and trained eye to appreciate him.
Perhaps you should take some BJJ and MMA classes so that you can better understand and appreciate the discipline and speak more knowledgeably about the subject.
The notion that all those that actually train and compete in the sport are wrong about Jones' extraordinary talent and you know better is beyond laughable.
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I watched the highlight of "Nunes" vs "Cyborg" and was pretty baffled at how the former beat up the latter. I was rooting for Cyborg but the broad shouldered/long armed beast seems to have been made for lethal striking... kinda like Chuck Liddell who didn't look too impressive but had great leverage.
Word is that Jones may soon present his own Poke-mon which easily destroys all others.... lots of children will being lethally blind sided. >:(
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Jones has beaten everybody in his division and all you have to say is that all his opponents suck. DC beat everyone at light heavy and just won the HW title and has only lost to Jones but he sucks too because you think he's too old.
not all of them, most of them.
as for dc, well the dude is almost 40. surely thats a factor when he's facing jones who is nearly 10 years younger.
You can criticize him all you want but compared to whom? He's beaten everybody. You're essentially saying all the fighters suck. Well then, where are all the good LWH fighters in the world?
there's no secret that some divisions are worse than others, LWH being one of them.
Nobody becomes as popular as Jones by being boring. He's an exciting fighter that's inspiring to watch because of his unmatched talent and skill. All the fighters, whether they like him or hate him, will attest to that. You simply lack the sophistication and trained eye to appreciate him.
i dont think neither his talent or skill is unmatched. there's plenty of talent and skill in many other weight classes and in many fighters. how is jones elbows or kicks to the knees any bigger skill than rose namajunas flying armbar? but let's for a minute say he's unmatched, maybe thats one of the reasons that make him boring to watch? his most entertaining fight was against gustafsson the first time, and the reason being that he WAS NOT unmatched. where's the entertainment in watching somebody you know's gonna win before hand?
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He might just be the best ever but his repeated busts for drugs taint his credibility and there's plenty of videos of his eye pokes. Maybe he needs a new "nutritionist" that knows when to stop using so he doesn't get caught.
chaos i agree john Jones is an all around piece of shit and a narcassist that being said he has never lost of fight. i would love for him to fight Cain Velasquez though , i wonder if that fight would ever happen, there are not any big fights for Jones at lhw now, and no good contenders as well
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chaos i agree john Jones is an all around piece of shit and a narcassist that being said he has never lost of fight. i would love for him to fight Cain Velasquez though , i wonder if that fight would ever happen, there are not any big fights for Jones at lhw now, and no good contenders as well
Fuck no. Cain is much too big and he has the cardio to all 5 rounds. Jon is my favorite but Cain is too big for him. I'd love to see the fight though.
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I’ve heard that Tyson was listed at 5’11.5”, but his true height may have been closer to 5’9”. I’m sure that Darren Avery can confirm his accurate height
No he really is about 6 feet. I used to see him the barbershop often in Vegas. I used to post about it occasionally. He has a ginormous head.
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Fuck no. Cain is much too big and he has the cardio to all 5 rounds. Jon is my favorite but Cain is too big for him. I'd love to see the fight though.
i would to it would sell huge, i dont see anyone right now beating him at lhw, hell i cant even think of a young guy coming up that is even impressive, jones staying at lhw will hurt his drawing power, hw at this moment are were the huge fights are for him.
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hw division is as shitty as the lhw division.
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No he really is about 6 feet. I used to see him the barbershop often in Vegas. I used to post about it occasionally. He has a ginormous head.
Mike Tyson IS NOT 6 feet tall!! My friend who is a legit 6 foot has a photo with him ,Tyson is AT LEAST 2 inches shorter. Ill see if I can find the pic on FB
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not all of them, most of them.
as for dc, well the dude is almost 40. surely thats a factor when he's facing jones who is nearly 10 years younger.
Didn't seem to be a factor when DC beat everybody else.
there's no secret that some divisions are worse than others, LWH being one of them.
Fall back excuse when one person dominates a division.
i dont think neither his talent or skill is unmatched. there's plenty of talent and skill in many other weight classes and in many fighters. how is jones elbows or kicks to the knees any bigger skill than rose namajunas flying armbar? but let's for a minute say he's unmatched, maybe thats one of the reasons that make him boring to watch? his most entertaining fight was against gustafsson the first time, and the reason being that he WAS NOT unmatched. where's the entertainment in watching somebody you know's gonna win before hand?
It's pointless to compare different weight classes. Effortlessly choking out Machida or taking DC repeated when he has never been taken down in his entire professional career beats any arm Rose does to another woman.
And as far a watching someone slaughter another person as entertaining. That's subjective. Most people like that. That's what Tyson so popular in his prime. He just destroyed his opponents.
And I much rather trust the assessments by the experts, both actual fighters and those that make their living in this sport, than yours who have never been anywhere near an Octagon or BJJ mat.
Hopefully, with time, as you continue to watch these events, your perspective will mature and you will be able to see the subtleties in MMA. It's similar to bbing. When I first saw PI they all looked the same to me. Just guys with huge muscles and I couldn't tell who was better than the other. As I became more sophisticated over the years I then could see the difference between an Arnold and a Lou and why Arnold was so much better than everybody else.
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Didn't seem to be a factor when DC beat everybody else.
how will jones do when he turns 40? guess we'll found out, apparantely age isnt a factor... and i assume neither is steroids. imagine that, two fighters, one of them being almost a decade older, and the younger fighter is the one who juices...
Fall back excuse when one person dominates a division.
theres 3 fighters on the pound for pound list, all from the same division. there's only one from the LHW division. that should tell you something.
It's pointless to compare different weight classes. Effortlessly choking out Machida or taking DC repeated when he has never been taken down in his entire professional career beats any arm Rose does to another woman.
that was just an example, surely you must know that there's a ton of fighters who submitted or taken down people who previously havent been submitted, or been taken down, other than jones?
And as far a watching someone slaughter another person as entertaining. That's subjective. Most people like that. That's what Tyson so popular in his prime. He just destroyed his opponents.
and yet most fights considered the best are the ones that been close, not onesided. like tj dillashaw - coby. like jones-gustafson, you know fights that are actually A FIGHT. otherwise, we can all agree on that ronda rousey was the most entertaining because how far ahead of the pack she was at one time, dominating her opponents, but was she, really that entertaining to watch?
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No he really is about 6 feet. I used to see him the barbershop often in Vegas. I used to post about it occasionally. He has a ginormous COCK.
What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?
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What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?
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not only boring but over rated... its easy to look good depending on who you fight.
against bonner... 3 round decision win, bonner went on and lost 2 in a row aftwards, shows you how good he was at the time ::)
against jake o brian... jake was thrown out of ufc afterwards, thats telling me he wasnt at the top of his game otherwise ufc wouldve kept him.
against brandon vera... who afterwards had 1 no contest, 1 win, 2 losses and was thrown out of the ufc...
against vladimir... 2 minute fight, cant remember
against ryan bader... bader was boring as hell to watch at this time, slightly less boring now.
against shogun, shogun was losing every other fight at this time, way past his prime...
against rampage... no comment. rampage hasnt been good for a decade
against machida... machida had 2 outta 3 losses leading up to jones... closing in at 3 losses in 4 fights in the year 2010-2011... thats a close to get cut record...
against rashad... good matchup i suppose but i cant imagine 3 round decision being that entertaining between these two.
against senior citizen belfort... ok fight i suppose
against senior citizen chael sonnen... hardly fun to watch.
against alex gustafson... finally a fight worth watching! and he almost lost.
against senior citizen glover... couldnt finish him in 5 rounds
against senior citizen dc... ok fight
against OSP... boring.
against senior citizen dc again...
against alex again...
yeah greatest of all time and all of that... and what a bunch of ENTERTAINING fights! ::)
LOL this is hilarious.
Who's he fought, everyone and they all suck.
Well done.
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how will jones do when he turns 40? guess we'll found out, apparantely age isnt a factor... and i assume neither is steroids. imagine that, two fighters, one of them being almost a decade older, and the younger fighter is the one who juices...
theres 3 fighters on the pound for pound list, all from the same division. there's only one from the LHW division. that should tell you something.
that was just an example, surely you must know that there's a ton of fighters who submitted or taken down people who previously havent been submitted, or been taken down, other than jones?
and yet most fights considered the best are the ones that been close, not onesided. like tj dillashaw - coby. like jones-gustafson, you know fights that are actually A FIGHT. otherwise, we can all agree on that ronda rousey was the most entertaining because how far ahead of the pack she was at one time, dominating her opponents, but was she, really that entertaining to watch?
Why don't you get a job at the UFC since you are so much more knowledgeable than everybody else? The actual fighters, trainers, coaches, writers, and commentators all who freely admit that Jones is on a level never seen before.
Oh, I know. They all suck too.
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Why don't you get a job at the UFC since you are so much more knowledgeable than everybody else? The actual fighters, trainers, coaches, writers, and commentators all who freely admit that Jones is on a level never seen before.
Oh, I know. They all suck too.
i dont have to since they agree with me, the top 15 fights in ufc history has jones-gustafson on #7 (and that happens to be, as ive said before, an actual fight and thus exciting to watch)
or why dont we take a look at 'fight of the night'
nate diaz 8 times.
joe lauzon 7 times.
frankie edgar 7 times.
diego sanchez 7 times.
chris lytle 6 times.
clay guida 6 times.
jim miller 6 times.
barboza 6 times.
sam stout 6 times.
jeremy stephens 5 times.
dustin poirier 5 times.
carlos condit 5 times.
wanderlei silva 5 times.
cub swanson 5 times.
michael bisping 5 times.
jon jones 4 times. (along with anderson silva, tony ferguson, shogun, gsp, hendo, romero, tavares, whittaker)
how about performance of the night? that should tell us something about how exciting a fighter is to watch.
"The Performance of the Night bonuses are awarded to the athletes who put on the best and most exciting individual performances."
jones only been awarded that one time, which makes him #24 on that list.
if we look at fighters with most awards (combining fight of the night, ko of the night, sub of the night and performance of the night
jones is #18 on that list.
so by looking at the facts and the stats, your precious jon jones isnt doing so well.
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Again, the refs deem the eye pokes unintentional. Coke? I don't care. PEDs, passed a polygraph. Furthermore, the amount metabolites found in his system, laughable. Dude has been winning since the day he stepped foot in UFC and making legends look ordinary. Whose as did he kick that hurt your feelings? Lol
Settle down Wigglet, I enjoy watching Jones fight and think he's a great fighter, but there will always be a stain on his reputation for being a drug addicted steroid abuser.
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i dont have to since they agree with me, the top 15 fights in ufc history has jones-gustafson on #7 (and that happens to be, as ive said before, an actual fight and thus exciting to watch)
or why dont we take a look at 'fight of the night'
nate diaz 8 times.
joe lauzon 7 times.
frankie edgar 7 times.
diego sanchez 7 times.
chris lytle 6 times.
clay guida 6 times.
jim miller 6 times.
barboza 6 times.
sam stout 6 times.
jeremy stephens 5 times.
dustin poirier 5 times.
carlos condit 5 times.
wanderlei silva 5 times.
cub swanson 5 times.
michael bisping 5 times.
jon jones 4 times. (along with anderson silva, tony ferguson, shogun, gsp, hendo, romero, tavares, whittaker)
how about performance of the night? that should tell us something about how exciting a fighter is to watch.
"The Performance of the Night bonuses are awarded to the athletes who put on the best and most exciting individual performances."
jones only been awarded that one time, which makes him #24 on that list.
if we look at fighters with most awards (combining fight of the night, ko of the night, sub of the night and performance of the night
jones is #18 on that list.
so by looking at the facts and the stats, your precious jon jones isnt doing so well.
What? You are talking about two different things. Exciting fights and "exciting" fighters is not the same as skilled fighters. And fights of the night is dependant on the other fights which may have been boring. So Joe Lauzon and Sam Stout had more "fight of the night" awards than Jones. That says nothing about skill level.
Damn, you are really reaching now. The experts don't agree with you. They state plainly that Jones is the GOAT. They didn't comment on his entertainment value or exciting fights, though ticket sales and having the UFC bend over backwards determine that.
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What? You are talking about two different things. Exciting fights and "exciting" fighters is not the same as skilled fighters. And fights of the night is dependant on the other fights which may have been boring. So Joe Lauzon and Sam Stout had more "fight of the night" awards than Jones. That says nothing about skill level.
Damn, you are really reaching now. The experts don't agree with you. They state plainly that Jones is the GOAT. They didn't comment on his entertainment value or exciting fights, though ticket sales and having the UFC bend over backwards determine that.
never said he wasnt skilled, why dont you look up my first post i said i find him BORING
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What kind of barbershop is this Wiggs?
Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza. Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude.
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Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza. Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude.
After years of going there, they turned you into a 4. :D
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After years of going there, they turned you into a 4. :D
Damn it, you guys don't miss a thing. Lol
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Hair Unlimited On MLK and Bonanza. Owned by Mac. I've gone there since I was a 7. I've seen Mike and spoken with Mike on several occasions. Full blown conversations. He's been coming there for several decades. It's one of his places of solitude.
You ever see mayweather?
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You ever see mayweather?
No, he's family though. Not that that's something to brag about outside of his boxing record. I'll leave it at that.
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everyone is family in the black community.
yeah im going to a funeral.. its my cousins cousins cousins cousin etc etc
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No, he's family though. Not that that's something to brag about outside of his boxing record. I'll leave it at that.
Are you related to the Mayweathers?
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Are you related to the Mayweathers?
I said they were family Kwon. So yes. But I'm leaving it at that.
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related as in all people originate from africa
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related as in all people originate from africa
Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.
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Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.
You should get him to join Getbig. Half the people on here would troll the hell out of him but I'm sure he would give it right back.
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Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.
I don’t always agree with you wiggs
Only good on you for having some morals & Principles
Respect.
He maybe a good boxer
He’s Not a Good Person.
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he does a lot for the car salesman
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Related as in cousin. I've said this before. But the dude hits women, exploits women, and everything else we know about him. I'm try to live a righteous lifestyle so what's so good about what he does to me? NOTHING. Furthermore, I don't need him if I want to make a name for myself. Great boxer though. One of the greats.
Chronic liars don’t live “righteous lifestyles”.
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Chronic liars don’t live “righteous lifestyles”.
Can one of my fine Caucasian brethren come get Methany, she got out of her cage again. Thanks in advance. :)
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So my son texts me today saying that Jones will be at his jiu jitsu tournament at the Fit Expo at the end of the month. Wondering what kind of reception he’ll get.
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never said he wasnt skilled, why dont you look up my first post i said i find him BORING
nunes would kill jones.
he's lucky mixed martial arts isnt mixed.
not only boring but over rated... its easy to look good depending on who you fight.
not all of them, most of them.
as for dc, well the dude is almost 40. surely thats a factor when he's facing jones who is nearly 10 years younger.
there's no secret that some divisions are worse than others, LWH being one of them.
i dont think neither his talent or skill is unmatched.
At the end of the day, whether you think he is boring and over rated, he will continue to win and continue to be one of the biggest draws for the UFC and the organization will do everything they can to keep him in the cage fighting.
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How's that his fault? It's weight limit, not height limit. Mike Tyson at 5'11.5 had no problems routinely beating peoplease several inches taller than him.
Because being bigger than all of your opponents and avoiding heavyweight because your ego is too big does not equal being the greatest of all time. Thats fucking ridiculous.
Not to mention still having to use gear and eye pokes to do it. Again, fucking ridiculous.
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Because being bigger than all of your opponents and avoiding heavyweight because your ego is too big does not equal being the greatest of all time. Thats fucking ridiculous.
Not to mention still having to use gear and eye pokes to do it. Again, fucking ridiculous.
I'm guessing you didn't graduate top of your class.
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I'm guessing you didn't graduate top of your class.
I see what you did there ::)
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Because being bigger than all of your opponents and avoiding heavyweight because your ego is too big does not equal being the greatest of all time. Thats fucking ridiculous.
Not to mention still having to use gear and eye pokes to do it. Again, fucking ridiculous.
Indeed.
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Because being bigger than all of your opponents and avoiding heavyweight because your ego is too big does not equal being the greatest of all time. Thats fucking ridiculous.
Not to mention still having to use gear and eye pokes to do it. Again, fucking ridiculous.
With the exception of heavyweights, don't all MMA fighters, boxers, wrestlers, all sports where being bigger than your opponent is an advantage, do this? In professional sports where winning is all that matters, I would think you'd want to take advantage of anything that would increase your chances of success.
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At the end of the day, whether you think he is boring and over rated, he will continue to win and continue to be one of the biggest draws for the UFC and the organization will do everything they can to keep him in the cage fighting.
yet lets not ever talk about someone who's winning, because what could possibly be gained from it?
let's just agree that jones is the best ever, and never mention him ever again on this msg board.
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With the exception of heavyweights, don't all MMA fighters, boxers, wrestlers, all sports where being bigger than your opponent is an advantage, do this? In professional sports where winning is all that matters, I would think you'd want to take advantage of anything that would increase your chances of success.
Sure, but in this sport being bigger than your opponent is a MASSIVE advantage and does not equal greatness. UFC is great at creating the 'hype machine' and having their loyal brand name casual fans believing anything they tell them.
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Sure, but in this sport being bigger than your opponent is a MASSIVE advantage and does not equal greatness. UFC is great at creating the 'hype machine' and having their loyal brand name casual fans believing anything they tell them.
To be honest, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You seem to be implying that Jones, and other fighters, are kind of cheating or gaming the system by cutting weight.
When I first met GSP, who was competing in the 2005 Abu Dhabi, I was struck by how big he was in person. He told me he weighed in at 192 lbs. Keep in mind that he was competing in the most prestigious submission wrestling tournament in the world so it's not like he was out of shape.
He competed in the 170 lbs class and I doubt he got any smaller as the years went on in his career. Meaning, he probably routinely had to drop 25, even 30 lbs to make weight during his reign.
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To be honest, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You seem to be implying that Jones, and other fighters, are kind of cheating or gaming the system by cutting weight.
When I first met GSP, who was competing in the 2005 Abu Dhabi, I was struck by how big he was in person. He told me he weighed in at 192 lbs. Keep in mind that he was competing in the most prestigious submission wrestling tournament in the world so it's not like he was out of shape.
He competed in the 170 lbs class and I doubt he got any smaller as the years went on in his career. Meaning, he probably routinely had to drop 25, even 30 lbs to make weight during his reign.
Personally I think in every sport with weight categories the weigh in should be just before the event takes place & Put a stop to all this nonsense of being 10/15/20lbs + over the supposed weight limits.
It just makes a mockery of having weight classes.
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Personally I think in every sport with weight categories the weigh in should be just before the event takes place & Put a stop to all this nonsense of being 10/15/20lbs + over the supposed weight limits.
It just makes a mockery of having weight classes.
This and also have fewer weight classes. A person should fight at a more natural weight instead of starving themselves to get down to a specific number. If there were only 3 weight classes you would eliminate the danger of dehydration and starvation diets.
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Personally I think in every sport with weight categories the weigh in should be just before the event takes place & Put a stop to all this nonsense of being 10/15/20lbs + over the supposed weight limits.
It just makes a mockery of having weight classes.
Agree 100%
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This and also have fewer weight classes. A person should fight at a more natural weight instead of starving themselves to get down to a specific number. If there were only 3 weight classes you would eliminate the danger of dehydration and starvation diets.
Yeah, that makes sense, haha WTF
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This and also have fewer weight classes. A person should fight at a more natural weight instead of starving themselves to get down to a specific number. If there were only 3 weight classes you would eliminate the danger of dehydration and starvation diets.
This has nothing to do with the UFC, this has everything to do with stupid cutting. Hope Mike Dolce is reading this.
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This has nothing to do with the UFC, this has everything to do with stupid cutting. Hope Mike Dolce is reading this.
Stupid cutting is done by boxers, wrestlers and mma guys.
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Stupid cutting is done by boxers, wrestlers and mma guys.
We are talking about MMA, right? I’ve never had to have a fighter dehydrate or starve.
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We are talking about MMA, right? I’ve never had to have a fighter dehydrate or starve.
They cut weight like everyone else who competes in weight classes. Do mma guys cut weight differently?
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They cut weight like everyone else who competes in weight classes. Do mma guys cut weight differently?
No, and that’s my point. Hard cuts make no sense if they know well enough in advance when the event is. Boxer, wrestler, MMA or otherwise. It’s an antiquated methodology to make weight.
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No, and that’s my point. Hard cuts make no sense if they know well enough in advance when the event is. Boxer, wrestler, MMA or otherwise. It’s an antiquated methodology to make weight.
If you are correct then there is no reason they shouldn’t have the weigh in just before the Event.
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If you are correct then there is no reason they shouldn’t have the weigh in just before the Event.
Agreed. The guys weigh in a day before and then go to the buffet and gain several pounds for the fight. They aren't even close to the weight limit when the fight starts the next day.
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If you are correct then there is no reason they shouldn’t have the weigh in just before the Event.
Examples of weighing in the day of a tournament would be wrestling and Jiu Jitsu, still broken up into weight classes, still have to make weight (below heavyweight). In high school wrestling, at least in California, hydrate testing is required.
One of the reasons why Rampage stopped doing his prep with Dolce years back, was because He got fat as shit and didn’t train in his off-season (not Dolces fault) but when he came time to diet, he would have him start his cuts at 8 weeks then 2 weeks before he’d (Dolce) would have him drop 40.
The thing is, stupid crap like this is common and there’s no need for it as long as the fighter complies.
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I competed in two Jiu-Jitsu tournaments that had same day weigh ins. Both were a disaster. It really held things up and what usually ends at 9:00 pm dragged on until after 11:00 pm. Also, those that didn't make weight couldn't be rescheduled to another weight class because it's already been set. They wanted their entrance fee back because there was no clause that they forfeit their fee if they don't make weight. Also, there were tons of cheating especially by Brasilians favoring other Brasilian competitors. There was no overseeing authority.
And it wasn't any safer for the competitors because they would actually be competing in a dehydrated and starved state since they had no time to carb back up. The body count being dragged out of there easily quadrupled.
With pro shows like the UFC I believe there's money to be made because they charge to be present at the weigh in, which is now ceremonial. Also, imagine if someone doesn't make weight on the night of the show? Really throws a monkey wrench in the whole thing and no time to figue out the best alternative: cancel? fine? let it go anyway.
And I still don't think it will be safer for the fighters as they will just be more likely to fight physically compromised.
No matter what the rules, as long as it applies to everybody equally then it's fair. It's very unlikely to change. Fighters are going to fight at a weight they think they can win. T.J. Dillashaw is cutting to 124 lbs when he was almost 150 lbs when he fought Cody.
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I competed in two Jiu-Jitsu tournaments that had same day weigh ins. Both were a disaster. It really held things up and what usually ends at 9:00 pm dragged on until after 11:00 pm. Also, those that didn't make weight couldn't be rescheduled to another weight class because it's already been set. They wanted their entrance fee back because there was no clause that they forfeit their fee if they don't make weight. Also, there were tons of cheating especially by Brasilians favoring other Brasilian competitors. There was no overseeing authority.
And it wasn't any safer for the competitors because they would actually be competing in a dehydrated and starved state since they had no time to carb back up. The body count being dragged out of there easily quadrupled.
With pro shows like the UFC I believe there's money to be made because they charge to be present at the weigh in, which is now ceremonial. Also, imagine if someone doesn't make weight on the night of the show? Really throws a monkey wrench in the whole thing and no time to figue out the best alternative: cancel? fine? let it go anyway.
And I still don't think it will be safer for the fighters as they will just be more likely to fight physically compromised.
No matter what the rules, as long as it applies to everybody equally then it's fair. It's very unlikely to change. Fighters are going to fight at a weight they think they can win. T.J. Dillashaw is cutting to 124 lbs when he was almost 150 lbs when he fought Cody.
Competitors sometimes don't make weight now. They still fight but not for title or official result, it's like an exhibition match. You are correct about being carb depleted and not having time to carb up. I hadn't considered that.
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To be honest, I'm not sure what point you are trying to make. You seem to be implying that Jones, and other fighters, are kind of cheating or gaming the system by cutting weight.
When I first met GSP, who was competing in the 2005 Abu Dhabi, I was struck by how big he was in person. He told me he weighed in at 192 lbs. Keep in mind that he was competing in the most prestigious submission wrestling tournament in the world so it's not like he was out of shape.
He competed in the 170 lbs class and I doubt he got any smaller as the years went on in his career. Meaning, he probably routinely had to drop 25, even 30 lbs to make weight during his reign.
Eye pokes, being bigger fighter = not candidate for greatest of all time. Pure UFC hype machine.
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Piece of cake for Jonny Jones. DC can now get his fat fucking head kicked in for the 3rd time. Jon Jones = GOAT!!!
It was a piece of cake. The punishment this time was way severe then last. If DC is smart he can see the pattern Bones has in his rematches :o! Jones= GOAT!
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I competed in two Jiu-Jitsu tournaments that had same day weigh ins. Both were a disaster. It really held things up and what usually ends at 9:00 pm dragged on until after 11:00 pm. Also, those that didn't make weight couldn't be rescheduled to another weight class because it's already been set. They wanted their entrance fee back because there was no clause that they forfeit their fee if they don't make weight. Also, there were tons of cheating especially by Brasilians favoring other Brasilian competitors. There was no overseeing authority.
And it wasn't any safer for the competitors because they would actually be competing in a dehydrated and starved state since they had no time to carb back up. The body count being dragged out of there easily quadrupled.
With pro shows like the UFC I believe there's money to be made because they charge to be present at the weigh in, which is now ceremonial. Also, imagine if someone doesn't make weight on the night of the show? Really throws a monkey wrench in the whole thing and no time to figue out the best alternative: cancel? fine? let it go anyway.
And I still don't think it will be safer for the fighters as they will just be more likely to fight physically compromised.
No matter what the rules, as long as it applies to everybody equally then it's fair. It's very unlikely to change. Fighters are going to fight at a weight they think they can win. T.J. Dillashaw is cutting to 124 lbs when he was almost 150 lbs when he fought Cody.
In the case of them not making weight in the UFC, a percentage of the fighters purse that didn't make weight will go to the opposing the fighter. If the fighter that didn't make weight but is close (not sure what the weight difference might be) they can opt for a catch weight as long as the other camp agrees. Needless to say it's kinda disrespectful to the fighter that busted his ass to make weight.
In the case of TJ, I don't train him but have got to know him fairly well over the last few months because he's training where Kongo and Rampage train here in HB. He started dieting for this fight (this weekend) at 12 weeks out, and as of yesterday still has about 6-8lbs to go. If you seem him now, he probably has the lowers BF percentage I've ever seen on anyone. But IMO, this is a dangerous cut but it's ultimately his decision to drop to flyweight (124) but he has a great cut coach and if he pulls this off with no health problems I'm hitting up his coach to see exactly what he did to keep him healthy in the in the last part of that cut.
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It’s interesting to see that Alexander Gustafsson and Jon Jones were very friendly and respectful after their 2 fights (pre-fight shoving & trash talking were just for show). Alexander Gustafsson didn’t really seem to care if Jones was on PED’s or not. They both had genuine smiles on their faces post-fight.
The same cannot be said about Jones & Daniel Cormier. Cormier seems to have that damaged “Mike Mentzer” mindset. The 1980 Olympia broke Mentzer’s heart. He let Arnold’s success mentally destroy him. Jones in this case is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Don’t be surprised if 10 years from now, DC is still bitching about Jones.
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It’s interesting to see that Alexander Gustafsson and Jon Jones were very friendly and respectful after their 2 fights (pre-fight shoving & trash talking were just for show). Alexander Gustafsson didn’t really seem to care if Jones was on PED’s or not. They both had genuine smiles on their faces post-fight.
The same cannot be said about Jones & Daniel Cormier. Cormier seems to have that damaged “Mike Mentzer” mindset. The 1980 Olympia broke Mentzer’s heart. He let Arnold’s success mentally destroy him. Jones in this case is Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Don’t be surprised if 10 years from now, DC is still bitching about Jones.
I wouldn’t count on the UFC even being around in 10 (or shorter) years at this rate.
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I wouldn’t count on the UFC even being around in 10 (or shorter) years at this rate.
I would count on it. But I'm curious as to why you think this?
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In the case of them not making weight in the UFC, a percentage of the fighters purse that didn't make weight will go to the opposing the fighter. If the fighter that didn't make weight but is close (not sure what the weight difference might be) they can opt for a catch weight as long as the other camp agrees. Needless to say it's kinda disrespectful to the fighter that busted his ass to make weight.
In the case of TJ, I don't train him but have got to know him fairly well over the last few months because he's training where Kongo and Rampage train here in HB. He started dieting for this fight (this weekend) at 12 weeks out, and as of yesterday still has about 6-8lbs to go. If you seem him now, he probably has the lowers BF percentage I've ever seen on anyone. But IMO, this is a dangerous cut but it's ultimately his decision to drop to flyweight (124) but he has a great cut coach and if he pulls this off with no health problems I'm hitting up his coach to see exactly what he did to keep him healthy in the in the last part of that cut.
Sevastase has gotten guys way skinnier than that in a lot less time on his training program
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I would count on it. But I'm curious as to why you think this?
Honestly man, when you weigh out how many fighters dislike Dana White then you add in the controversies, the circus acts (Ex; Mayweather vs. McGregor, Lesnar vs. Ford) the way the fighters are migrating to other organizations after their contracts are up, reading the comments from on the boards on MMA sites, FB, Sherdog, etc...people are just fed up. Even when you listen to former UFC fighters podcasts, they’re just shitting all over Dana and UFC. People will still watch, don’t get me wrong, but I see it fading.
Bellator on the other hand, treats their fighters well (although Kongo is a little pissed at not getting a title shot after 7 wins in a row with a few first round KO’s) but he’s still treated well along with the other fighters.
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Honestly man, when you weigh out how many fighters dislike Dana White then you add in the controversies, the circus acts (Ex; Mayweather vs. McGregor, Lesnar vs. Ford) the way the fighters are migrating to other organizations after their contracts are up, reading the comments from on the boards on MMA sites, FB, Sherdog, etc...people are just fed up. Even when you listen to former UFC fighters podcasts, they’re just shitting all over Dana and UFC. People will still watch, done get me wrong, but I see it fading.
Bellator on the other hand, treats their fighters well (although Kongo is a little pissed at not getting a title shot after 7 wins in a row with a few first round KO’s) but he’s still treated well along with the other fighters.
dana doesnt realize you need good fighters to sell out ppv
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dana doesnt realize you need good fighters to sell out ppv
He still has great fighters, they’ll soon realize after getting shit on.
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dana doesnt realize you need good fighters to sell out ppv
This is grown up talk. Go back to posting pics of your cock.
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Honestly man, when you weigh out how many fighters dislike Dana White then you add in the controversies, the circus acts (Ex; Mayweather vs. McGregor, Lesnar vs. Ford) the way the fighters are migrating to other organizations after their contracts are up, reading the comments from on the boards on MMA sites, FB, Sherdog, etc...people are just fed up. Even when you listen to former UFC fighters podcasts, they’re just shitting all over Dana and UFC. People will still watch, don’t get me wrong, but I see it fading.
Bellator on the other hand, treats their fighters well (although Kongo is a little pissed at not getting a title shot after 7 wins in a row with a few first round KO’s) but he’s still treated well along with the other fighters.
I'm with you on this. I really pull for Bellator to succeed. I think they can keep the UFC honest. I would like to see a couple of UFC champs leave and go to Bellator. Tyrone Woodley for sure should do it. He's been treated so disrespectfully by the UFC and Dana White. That would fuck up the UFC's Welterweight situation. Bellator would then have the best welterweight in the world as well as one of the top 3-5 p4p fighters.
If I'm Stipe, as soon as I win back the UFC title, I bolt as well.
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Competitors sometimes don't make weight now. They still fight but not for title or official result, it's like an exhibition match. You are correct about being carb depleted and not having time to carb up. I hadn't considered that.
Yes, you are right. My point was more that it will be more of a hassle and won't really change anything. A pro athlete will do anything they can, even if it endangers their health, to win.
It's more convenient for the promoter to do it a day before and it's a good marketing show. And I think, at least with the UFC, they charge for the weigh-ins so they make money as well. People seem to love a good stare down and a possible scuffle.
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Yes, you are right. My point was more that it will be more of a hassle and won't really change anything. A pro athlete will do anything they can, even if it endangers their health, to win.
It's more convenient for the promoter to do it a day before and it's a good marketing show. And I think, at least with the UFC, they charge for the weigh-ins so they make money as well. People seem to love a good stare down and a possible scuffle.
Yeah, the stare down doesn't have the same effect if they are going to be in the octagon 15 min later.
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It was a piece of cake. The punishment this time was way severe then last. If DC is smart he can see the pattern Bones has in his rematches :o! Jones= GOAT!
Greatest eyepoker and 6' 5" bully avoiding heavyweight of all time yes
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Just another reason why the UFC won’t last
http://combatnations.com/video-dana-whites-mother-tells-all-hes-banging-all-the-ring-card-girls/
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Just another reason why the UFC won’t last
http://combatnations.com/video-dana-whites-mother-tells-all-hes-banging-all-the-ring-card-girls/
I can't blame him That last girl he's pictured with is HOT!!!!! :P
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Diana looks more like a gay best friend
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Just another reason why the UFC won’t last
http://combatnations.com/video-dana-whites-mother-tells-all-hes-banging-all-the-ring-card-girls/
What is the FTC investigating for? Other than the monopoly part, any specific business practices?
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I don't understand why the fighters don't form a union. Two top boxers will get 20, 30 40 million and a lot more for a top fight. Most of the guys you watch fight in the UFC are getting chump change while the executives are lining their pockets. It's only a matter of time before the fighters flee to other organizations. The ranking system is a complete joke. One thing for sure. A MMA fighter's career is a short one. They take a savage beatings and they don't last. How many of these top champs are fighting twice a year and still have to retire?
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I don't understand why the fighters don't form a union. Two top boxers will get 20, 30 40 million and a lot more for a top fight. Most of the guys you watch fight in the UFC are getting chump change while the executives are lining their pockets. It's only a matter of time before the fighters flee to other organizations. The ranking system is a complete joke. One thing for sure. A MMA fighter's career is a short one. They take a savage beatings and they don't last. How many of these top champs are fighting twice a year and still have to retire?
Most of them aren't smart enough to realize they are getting screwed until they've gotten screwed. It's like the music industry where singers will sign horrible contracts just to get a record deal and then years later are broke even after millions of albums sold.