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in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?
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Please tell me there isn't a picture of Dugdale inclining 495 :-\
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in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?
Light weight Baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Please tell me there isn't a picture of Dugdale inclining 495 :-\
yes it was in Flex an issue or two back.
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I thought the idea of fake weights was that bodybuilders should use amounts that they could actually lift ::)
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I thought the idea of fake weights was that bodybuilders should use amounts that they could actually lift ::)
you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions. ::)
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yes i have that issue..... and i thought.. well if dudgale can incline 495 why is coleman havin such a hard time benching it...
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yes i have that issue..... and i thought.. well if dudgale can incline 495 why is coleman havin such a hard time benching it...
as a matter of fact Cormier said, "that picture is hard to believe especially watching Ronnie have a hard time with 405 inclines in his video".
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in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?
Lil' Mirzy.....
I think Cormier is a jealous biznatch.....
I also think Duggy can press 495 on incline (minus 120lbs).
DIV
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you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions. ::)
It would be funny if these guys tried these lifts and lost their balance and fell out of the chair ;D
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Whats the big deal?? Some guys are leveraged to be better at some moves than others. Maybe hes a bencher, but not a good squater.
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you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions. ::)
thats nothing....
ernie taylor in on issue of flex was doin 405..
when called out about it by a fan.. he said he did it for real
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Lil' Mirzy.....
I think Cormier is a jealous biznatch.....
I also think Duggy can press 495 on incline (minus 120lbs).
DIV
i would say that an offseason Dugdale could prolly incline a tough 365 or so and maybe get 315 for 7 or 8 which is still damn good.
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Yeah Cormier is a big strong tough guy, he can punch a 5'4" scandinavian girl in the mouth no problem!
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thats nothing....
ernie taylor in on issue of flex was doin 405..
when called out about it by a fan.. he said he did it for real
hahahahahahahaha, can you imagine someone actually trying a seated 405 extension? they'd be picking his bloody elbows up off the gym floor.
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you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions. ::)
it wasnt 315, but it was 3 plates a side on an ez curl bar. and he DID do it.
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it wasnt 315, but it was 3 plates a side on an ez curl bar. and he DID do it.
were you there? did you load the weight yourself?
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Yeah Cormier is a big strong tough guy, he can punch a 5'4" scandinavian girl in the mouth no problem!
Ahmo Hight?
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when i have time this week im gonna borrow my friends scanner.. and post pics of all these unbelievable lifts ive seen in flex....
but that ernie taylor doin seated extensions with 4 plates on each side stands out in my mind... also a pic of milos spotting atwood doung 6 plates a side incline
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i would say that an offseason Dugdale could prolly incline a tough 365 or so and maybe get 315 for 7 or 8 which is still damn good.
Yeah, that's why I said minus 120lbs.
Duggy is not a genetic freak, nor a powerlifter.
360-370lbs max on incline, that's it.
Yeah Cormier is a big strong tough guy, he can punch a 5'4" scandinavian girl in the mouth no problem!
Who's the latest ragdoll he's with?
Does he beat all his women or what?
Eventually one of these white chicks is going to have a boyfriend larger or with more balls than Cormier, and that will be it.
Bodybuilders don't come back from broken necks.
DIV
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when i have time this week im gonna borrow my friends scanner.. and post pics of all these unbelievable lifts ive seen in flex....
but that ernie taylor doin seated extensions with 4 plates on each side stands out in my mind... also a pic of milos spotting atwood doung 6 plates a side incline
they also had an issue awhile back with a guy named Gundersson who was doing some crazy lifts like seated db presses with 190's.
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ahahahahahaha Dugdale pressing what? YEAH RIGHT!
That's one of the main reasons i don't read FLEX any more. they fake everything. including the Olympia doing well. ::)
FAKE WEIGHTS!
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yes.. apparently he's strong.. also.. gunter pressing 405 on inclines....
mmm not quite as strong on video..matter as fact for his size gunter is weak from what i've seen....
and jay inlinin 495.. also claude groulx doin 5 plates a side...
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yes.. apparently he's strong.. also.. gunter pressing 405 on inclines....
mmm not quite as strong on video..matter as fact for his size gunter is weak from what i've seen....
and jay inlinin 495.. also claude groulx doin 5 plates a side...
on Cutler's video he inclines 405 with his wife's hands on the bar on every rep, don't know how much she takes off the bar but prolly not a whole lot, it's hard to tell how strong Schlierkamp is but i wouldn't put a 365-385 incline past him, supposedly that Gundersson dude was some freak but they never had him in there again that i know of, and i met Groulx in person here at a local show a few years ago when he was at his biggest and there is NO WAY that he could bench 500 from looking at him, he was like 5'6" 235 or so.
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I know for a fact that Dugdale subscribes to the Dorian Yates/somewhat Mike Mentzer style of training. This guy doesn't train for reps, so I wouldn't exactly put it past him.
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but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever
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ahahahahahaha Dugdale pressing what? YEAH RIGHT!
That's one of the main reasons i don't read FLEX any more. they fake everything. including the Olympia doing well. ::)
FAKE WEIGHTS!
No shit. The articles, ghostwritten. The photos, faked. Drugs in the sport...... non existent in Flex.
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Ahmo Hight?
Yeah, he close fisted decked in the face.
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but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever
i agree, the only relatively impressive thing i've seen him do was on BFTO '04 he did lying extensions with like 175-185 for like 8 reps or so with pretty good form.
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but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever
Gunther is more suited for mass than strength.
That's not shocking.
DIV
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extensions with 185... is not impressive.... in the slightest.. heck on a good arm dayi crank that out
actually for a 300lb man... since everybody goes by weiht.. thats weak
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I know for a fact that Dugdale subscribes to the Dorian Yates/somewhat Mike Mentzer style of training. This guy doesn't train for reps, so I wouldn't exactly put it past him.
Come on, man.
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you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions. ::)
NO WAY! REALLY? I never saw that one..NOW THATS ABSURD, I dont care how STRONG ROnnie is...Its just physically as far as kinesiology, and stress points IMPOSSIBLE..lol.. that would tear your elbows into bits!
Whcih mag was this in? These mags are getting pretty insulting to knowledgeable readers like ourselves..Wtf are they thinking..
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i do triceps extensions with 314.5 so i would not put 315 past ronnie.
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i do triceps extensions with 314.5 so i would not put 315 past ronnie.
These are OVERHEAD TRICEP Ext..do you know what that is? NOT FLAT...
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if you notice in the mags, everyone is benching with 5 plates, everyone can deadlift 6 plates, and almost everyone is squatting the same. according to flex there are no weak or strong pros because everyone's lifting the same exact amounts.
double funny because the dumbbells are apparently harder to get in a non-weighted variety, so the same guys tend to be curling 35s and doing shrugs with 100s.
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I don't understand why it's of any importance to Cormier either way.
Regarding the photos, I'm sure all that you would have to do is go to Mark's site and email him inquiring about the legitimacy of them. I see no reason why you would not receive an honest answer.
Are you saying that you believe Mark completed the lift? ::)
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I'm not saying either way. What I am saying is that in order to know the details reagarding the photos, you would need to ask someone who was actually there. Mark's pretty much as straight up of a guy you're gonna get... if anyone is that concerned about it, ask him.
Wow...you are so far gone it's not even funny :-\
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These are OVERHEAD TRICEP Ext..do you know what that is? NOT FLAT...
baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....
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I wasn't impressed too much by Gunter. Now I won't go and say I can keep up with him during a workout, but given his size I would expect more.
Maybe he is just one to get incredibly weak when closing in on a show? Moreso than other pros perhaps. It doesn't seem to me that his flat bench one rep max would be much more than four plates.
Being 6'1 he might have a height disadvantage though.
Matthew,
It's a bit hard to look good criticizing a pro's strength, even if he is weak for his size.
baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....
^Stop trying to steal my flow, PicklePet....
I call people "baby", that's my thing.
DIV
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Matthew,
It's a bit hard to look good criticizing a pro's strength, even if he is weak for his size.
^Stop trying to steal my flow, PicklePet....
I call people "baby", that's my thing.
DIV
i could not resist, div
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baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....
My fault..I apologize! Doh!
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i could not resist, div
PicklePet,
Explain why I'd be dissapointed in CQ.
What about her is not attractive?
DIV
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Cormier probably didn't really say that. In one of his videos he's pissed when he reads what he supposedly "wrote" in his MD column, and he says he's never written it. None of those guys "write" any of those. MD just makes up crap to be "shocking." Do you honestly think Cormier sits down at his computer and types out a column every month? ::) No one can even find him to talk to him for most of the year.
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I think ive seen him do 4 plates a side on incline, so that would be 405.
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in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?
was that in the issue with Lee and David on the cover? It might be possible - Branch Warren is about the same height and can inlcine 4 or 5 plates. Then again, the picture could be of him doing partial reps. A couple months ago Art Atwood had a feature in flex about "Fear-Factor Partials" and he had 6 or 7 plates on incline. I dunno - i think Cormier is right on this one
(http://www.bodybuilderstellensichvor.de/markdugdale/Mark01.jpg)
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Cormier probably didn't really say that. In one of his videos he's pissed when he reads what he supposedly "wrote" in his MD column, and he says he's never written it. None of those guys "write" any of those. MD just makes up crap to be "shocking." Do you honestly think Cormier sits down at his computer and types out a column every month? ::) No one can even find him to talk to him for most of the year.
I just got a mental picture of Cormier sliding up to his computer with a pair of glasses and a cup of coffee, preparing to write his column ;D
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PicklePet,
Explain why I'd be dissapointed in CQ.
What about her is not attractive?
DIV
my comment was with regard to cheri. did i misread you?
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These idiot bodybuilders aren't nearly as strong as people think. I would be surprised if he did 405 on flat bench.
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These idiot bodybuilders aren't nearly as strong as people think. I would be surprised if he did 405 on flat bench.
Lee Haney did 405 flat bench for 6 reps in his Olympia workout video - I doubt Dugdale is stronger than Haney
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These idiot bodybuilders aren't nearly as strong as people think. I would be surprised if he did 405 on flat bench.
I agree. Flex is starting to push the barriers as far as weight goes. What's next, Ronnie inclining 6 plates? :-[
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yea theres a pic of mark doing 495 incline bb press. in the Flex with Dennis Wolf on the cover. also in the meg with Kris Dim incline 495. have you guys seen how strong mark is?? he can sqaut 675lbs. he does that Dorian Yates style. I read alot of articles that Mark aims to push the heavy stuff 'I go too heavy and errrrrrr throught it then going too light"
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my comment was with regard to cheri. did i misread you?
Eh.....
I thought you commented that you'd see CQ's pics?
Nevermind then. I've seen alot of Laura's body. She's not bad, considering she's had kids. Too tan though....
DIV
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Maybe memory doesn't serve too well but I seem to recall an episode of some bodybuilding show maybe on ESPN some years back where Mike Matarazzo (sp?) said he did lying tricep extensions up to 300 pounds (Ezi bar inclusive).
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Cormier probably didn't really say that. In one of his videos he's pissed when he reads what he supposedly "wrote" in his MD column, and he says he's never written it. None of those guys "write" any of those. MD just makes up crap to be "shocking." Do you honestly think Cormier sits down at his computer and types out a column every month? ::) No one can even find him to talk to him for most of the year.
yeah for sure dipshit.....Lee Priest doesn't write any of his columns either.....why don't you PM him and ask him? The thing is, his columns tend to sound a lot like his posts on here--direct, to the point, no bullshit. Lee Priest has sold out to nobody so far as I can tell, that's one column you can mark in the books as legit.
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yea theres a pic of mark doing 495 incline bb press. in the Flex with Dennis Wolf on the cover. also in the meg with Kris Dim incline 495. have you guys seen how strong mark is?? he can sqaut 675lbs. he does that Dorian Yates style. I read alot of articles that Mark aims to push the heavy stuff 'I go too heavy and errrrrrr throught it then going too light"
that's because everyone in flex inclines 495. they also all shoulder press 405, squat and deadlift 675, and curl with at least 2 45s on the bar. oh and lets not forget ronnie squatting 855 without so much as knee wraps when in cost of redemption he had wraps and a squat suit for 800. ::)
i love how people are acting like the weights in the picture are real. it's so damn easy to see that they aren't. just look at the plates, some of them are obviously fake. they put on 135 or 225 so the guy struggles enough for the picture and then they load wood plates to make it look bigger.
what proof do you have mark squats 675? a picture in a magazine? same magazine that said erik bui was squatting 700 raw under 200 pounds?
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yea theres a pic of mark doing 495 incline bb press. in the Flex with Dennis Wolf on the cover. also in the meg with Kris Dim incline 495. have you guys seen how strong mark is?? he can sqaut 675lbs. he does that Dorian Yates style. I read alot of articles that Mark aims to push the heavy stuff 'I go too heavy and errrrrrr throught it then going too light"
Dead on. Like I said before, that's the type of training Dugdale subscribes to---a combination of what Yates did and the teachings of Mentzer. This guy DOES NOT AIM FOR REPS IN HIS TRAINING. Coleman has been known to go to 15 reps during his workouts. Obviously he's not going to be using the same weight.
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To be honest, I would prefer that they portray professionals lifting too much weight as opposed to too little. There are some old Ronnie Coleman photoshoots where they have him curling 40lb dumbbells and 30lb side laterals. ::)
My personal favorite:
Jason Marcovici (who?), IFBB pro with a torn biceps muscle, curling 315lbs in a Cell-Tech advertisement.
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what proof do you have mark squats 675? a picture in a magazine? same magazine that said erik bui was squatting 700 raw under 200 pounds?
I'm pretty sure the Bui segment was legitimate. It was similar to the recent Coleman and Cutler articles Flex has run: black and white photos in their normal gym setting during a real training session. If Bui's plates were fake, then they must have been made exclusively for that shoot, and the bar is bending so I don't know how I would account for that either. The fake shots are pretty easy to spot because they all look to be shot in Fullerton and they have the pros dress in that ridiculous name-brand, brightly colored workout gear, not their usual threads.
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I'm pretty sure the Bui segment was legitimate. It was similar to the recent Coleman and Cutler articles Flex has run: black and white photos in their normal gym setting during a real training session. If Bui's plates were fake, then they must have been made exclusively for that shoot, and the bar is bending so I don't know how I would account for that either. The fake shots are pretty easy to spot because they all look to be shot in Fullerton and they have the pros dress in that ridiculous name-brand, brightly colored workout gear, not their usual threads.
do you descend from the knights templar?
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I'm pretty sure the Bui segment was legitimate. It was similar to the recent Coleman and Cutler articles Flex has run: black and white photos in their normal gym setting during a real training session. .
You are 100% correct.
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You are 100% correct.
^Less photospreads of fitness chicks during competition, more layouts of them off-season sans tan.
When you do this, the world will be a better place.
DIV
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I agree about the weights in Flex.They surely have to use fakes a lot of the time.But remember a few years ago when Jean Pier Fux tore both quads during a photoshoot for flex.They published those pics and there was nothing fake about them.I don't remember how much weight he had on the bar but I can't see that being faked.
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I agree about the weights in Flex.They surely have to use fakes a lot of the time.But remember a few years ago when Jean Pier Fux tore both quads during a photoshoot for flex.They published those pics and there was nothing fake about them.I don't remember how much weight he had on the bar but I can't see that being faked.
^That incident is why they use fake weights now.
It stained the bodybuilding world forever....
People are still scared of that.
DIV
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Yep those were some nasty pics....you could just see the horrible pain on his face.
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Yep those were some nasty pics....you could just see the horrible pain on his face.
He still hasn't recovered........even with the AAS.
The damage that did is something that will stay with him 'till his dying day.
DIV
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A couple months ago Art Atwood had a feature in flex about "Fear-Factor Partials" and he had 6 or 7 plates on incline.
it was 6 plates on each side and it was featured in the july issue of Flex
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^That incident is why they use fake weights now.
It stained the bodybuilding world forever....
People are still scared of that.
DIV
Not true.
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Not true.
How so? Not true about the fake weights or what?Please explain.
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Not true.
Very True.
You are one of the photogs, so what else are you going to say?
What you say doesn't matter much being that you are biased.
Remember, it was the photographers who stood there taking shots of the shit while he was getting crushed.
Those are your people......
DIV
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Never thought about that part of it...I have the mag somewhere but yeah come to think of it they took photos of him all the way to the floor....wow.
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ahahahahahaha Dugdale pressing what? YEAH RIGHT!
That's one of the main reasons i don't read FLEX any more. they fake everything. including the Olympia doing well. ::)
FAKE WEIGHTS!
:)
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Yeah i agree its unlikely that someone that light cud bench that but its not impossible i mean some power lifter with a lot less bulk press more than that everyones got there strong point and he does have a good chest. I think he carrys quite a bit of muscle he just has a really small frame to hang it on.
I'm not saying its real just that its worth concidering rather than being so sceptical
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Very True.
You are one of the photogs, so what else are you going to say?
What you say doesn't matter much being that you are biased.
Remember, it was the photographers who stood there taking shots of the shit while he was getting crushed.
Those are your people......
DIV
I've never used fake weights in any shoot. Never will.
Why is that so frigging diffucult for you to believe?
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I agree about the weights in Flex.They surely have to use fakes a lot of the time.But remember a few years ago when Jean Pier Fux tore both quads during a photoshoot for flex.They published those pics and there was nothing fake about them.I don't remember how much weight he had on the bar but I can't see that being faked.
Didn't the same happen to Orville Burke about a month after this inccedent? If I remeber righty he was doing a tricep workout photo shoot and tore the tendon, then while undergoing the op to re-attach it he slipped into a coma :(
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Didn't the same happen to Orville Burke about a month after this inccedent? If I remeber righty he was doing a tricep workout photo shoot and tore the tendon, then while undergoing the op to re-attach it he slipped into a coma :(
And there was jean fux's quad tear that was pretty sick he got crushed by 800lds on the squat!!! while doing a flex shoot
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And there was jean fux's quad tear that was pretty sick he got crushed by 800lds on the squat!!! while doing a flex shoot
wasn't sure how much weight it was...only that it was a sh*tload
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Eh.....
I thought you commented that you'd see CQ's pics?
Nevermind then. I've seen alot of Laura's body. She's not bad, considering she's had kids. Too tan though....
DIV
Where are these comments coming from? Left field? They seem to have nothing to do with the rest of the thread.
Now I want to see pics of CQ and get to read the now deleted/censored thread about " the real story of cheri lane" .
I do like " try to be able to differentiate seriousness from sarcasm" though.
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^That incident is why they use fake weights now.
It stained the bodybuilding world forever....
People are still scared of that.
DIV
they have been using fake wood weights for years. World gym fake 45's. Ask worldgold gym guy. There is a photo for Crazee Wear or NPC active wear with Mike Christian holding three of these fake 45' plates in his hand much like a waiter would be doing. This fake shit has been going on for at least 33 years and probably long before that.
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they have been using fake wood weights for years. World gym fake 45's. Ask worldgold gym guy. There is a photo for Crazee Wear or NPC active wear with Mike Christian holding three of these fake 45' plates in his hand much like a waiter would be doing. This fake shit has been going on for at least 27 years and probably long before that.
well I don't know much about photography(ok nothing) and I doubt they use quite as much weight as some of the pics...but what is wrong with using fake weights as long as they keep the poundages legit..Maybe some photos take several trys to get a good shot...maybe they need to be able to shoot for long periods of time to get a complete set of quality pictures.It would be difficult for them to work with max poundages for long periods of time during the shoot without risking injury(such as FUX)...I don't know just a thought.
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I've never used fake weights in any shoot. Never will.
Why is that so frigging diffucult for you to believe?
ok fair enough.....
question... what poundages were used in your shoots?
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ok fair enough.....
question... what poundages were used in your shoots?
You'd have to read the articles for the exact weights.
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I've never used fake weights in any shoot. Never will.
Why is that so frigging diffucult for you to believe?
^You photog sluts are all the same.
Fine, believe your own bullshit.
At least photograph more off-season fitness chicks.....the ones we want to see. ::)
Where are these comments coming from? Left field? They seem to have nothing to do with the rest of the thread.
Now I want to see pics of CQ and get to read the now deleted/censored thread about " the real story of cheri lane" .
I do like " try to be able to differentiate seriousness from sarcasm" though.
The comments are carried over from another thread which was erased.
CQ was getting jealous of Laura's potential competitor status, the stars bullshit and people called her on it.
She never posted pics and I asked her about it, she claims they are floating around.
I said that I wasn't evern convinced the CQ is a woman.
I'm still not sure. With so many gimmick accounts on here, there have been guys posing as women.
DIV
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Don Youngblood got torn up in a photoshoot after his Masters "win". Too much weight . . .
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^You photog sluts are all the same.
Fine, believe your own bullshit.
At least photograph more off-season fitness chicks.....the ones we want to see. ::)
The comments are carried over from another thread which was erased.
CQ was getting jealous of Laura's potential competitor status, the stars bullshit and people called her on it.
She never posted pics and I asked her about it, she claims they are floating around. I said that I wasn't evern convinced the CQ is a woman.
I'm still not sure. With so many gimmick accounts on here, there have been guys posing as women.
DIV
Not a single person called me on it.. Even Laura has told you twice it is untrue.For the 3rd time I will tell you that someone with my competition resume would have no need to be jealous of a beginner doing her first show. I wish Laura all the best and we are totally cool - as she has told you twice ::)
Numerous people have confirmed who I am/seen my pics/seen me in person including Flower, 240, Mindspin, Jodi, Jimmy, Sean etc. You are the only one who keeps insisting I am a guy which have been doing since last year.
Your have posted about me close to 20 times since last night...and all off base with yourself too.Your insistence in talking about me is really *creepy*
Seriously. People are pm'ing me asking what is wrong with you. I will just concede that I am jealous, a black girl, a white girl, a man, a gimmick etc...all the things you have said in the last few hours. Okay? So now you should be happy.
Shortfatugly - check your pms ;)
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cq is anything BUT a man... :o
and has nothin to be jealous of any female i have seen on these boards
believe that...
fo shizzle..
word is bond...
rep ur hood...
etc etc and all that rap talk
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You'd have to read the articles for the exact weights.
are you being evasive...
its a simple question.. im sure you must have some idea of poundages used specially if impressive...
again i ask...
what poundages have you seen moved at your shoots
simple question
im genuinlly curious
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it sounds possible - i just finished rewatching Pure Resistance and a "natural" Flex Wheeler inclined 405 for 8 solid reps with full ROM.
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it sounds possible - i just finished rewatching Pure Resistance and a "natural" Flex Wheeler inclined 405 for 8 solid reps with full ROM.
Also Mark is one of the few pros who still has a strong upper pec line when doing front double biceps!
(http://www.fitplus.cz/allpic/mf/f_224.jpg)
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I talked to CQ in the past about some contests she attended, and worked with her a bit. She's legit. I have her pic, which I won't post, but I can tell yall... I state my rep on the fact she's a top competitor (national level), and she is pretty hot lol...
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i concur
i have seen a lil pic of her...
very hot...
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video proof - find out who's lying
http://www3.youtube.com/watch?v=f6UrVR05_1Q&search=dugdale
course this is during contest prep, so who knows . . .
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Dugdale carries a lot of good,balanced muscle on his frame despite what people say about strength claims,any body would take that build anyday 8)
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in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?
I'd believe 405, but 495 in contest condition is a little hard, to conceive, but then again there are those 120lb guys whoe bench 600lb.
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Dugdale carries a lot of good,balanced muscle on his frame despite what people say about strength claims,any body would take that build anyday 8)
Excellent point
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I've never used fake weights in any shoot. Never will.
Why is that so frigging diffucult for you to believe?
Kevin "hardcore" horton (btw- what is it exactly that you are hardcore about?)
Question - why havn't you commented on the original topic of this thread?
MArk Dugdales 495lb incline press?
answer - you know that fake plates were used for that shoot
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Kevin "hardcore" horton (btw- what is it exactly that you are hardcore about?)
Question - why havn't you commented on the original topic of this thread?
MArk Dugdales 495lb incline press?
answer - you know that fake plates were used for that shoot
The hardcore reference must remain a secret I'm afraid. Just knowing the reason could put lives in danger.
I doubt Chris Lund uses fake weights because every bodybuilder who works with him tells me how hard they work.
I'm sure that if any pro has, they'd come forward and say something?
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answer - you know that fake plates were used for that shoot
LOL @ horton saying "Buy the issue of FLEX and find out"
weak, man. weak.
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LOL @ horton saying "Buy the issue of FLEX and find out"
weak, man. weak.
How many copies of FLEX did you buy when your picture appeared in it?
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How many copies of FLEX did you buy when your picture appeared in it?
two.
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I'm sure that if any pro has, they'd come forward and say something?
ok, Kevin.
a pro is going to admit to being a pussy and using fake weights.
glad, that you are not paid for your powers of reasoning.
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Guys I can't speak for all but I have been at a few pro shoots [they were for MD not Flex mind you] and they were real weights. If that helps any. If not ignore me :)
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Yeah, he close fisted decked in the face.
Why did he do this?
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go to www.markdugdale.com and click on comments i saw this on duggies website
Location: Bothell, WA USA
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 19:46:32
Comments:
Great website. Now when people ask who my lifting partner is, I can just refer them to that. Most of my friends think I'm making it up. By the way, in case anyone wants to know, he benches 475 lbs on the incline bench, and squatted 635 for 2 reps last week. He's not just for show. See you in the gym Mark. Seth
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It would be funny if these guys tried these lifts and lost their balance and fell out of the chair ;D
Haha, I've almost done that on a couple of occasions. ;D
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if you notice in the mags, everyone is benching with 5 plates, everyone can deadlift 6 plates, and almost everyone is squatting the same. according to flex there are no weak or strong pros because everyone's lifting the same exact amounts.
double funny because the dumbbells are apparently harder to get in a non-weighted variety, so the same guys tend to be curling 35s and doing shrugs with 100s.
And having 22" arms are dime a dozen in the IFBB.
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go to www.markdugdale.com and click on comments i saw this on duggies website
Location: Bothell, WA USA
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 at 19:46:32
Comments:
Great website. Now when people ask who my lifting partner is, I can just refer them to that. Most of my friends think I'm making it up. By the way, in case anyone wants to know, he benches 475 lbs on the incline bench, and squatted 635 for 2 reps last week. He's not just for show. See you in the gym Mark. Seth
I'm sure he does ;D
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Mark put up pics of him doing a 675 squat in his gym with his own camera about a month before he won the USA`s
As per Flex well all the mags have fake bullshit photos. This has been going on for years
PS when there is more than 400lbs on a barbell they tend to be bent a bit in the photos
so if you see someone lifting any exercise over that amount and there absolutely no bend in the bar well draw your own conclusions
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Dugdale just doesn't look big enough to lift that much. How much does he weigh?
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Goes to show how much Chris Loves his fans...
In an article published somewhere, Dugdale was asked if what Bodybuilder he is a fan of and he states .... "I have always been the biggest Chris Cormier fan, his physique is one i am trying to emulate the most..."
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Goes to show how much Chris Loves his fans...
In an article published somewhere, Dugdale was asked if what Bodybuilder he is a fan of and he states .... "I have always been the biggest Chris Cormier fan, his physique is one i am trying to emulate the most..."
BS, dugdlae likes Dexs physiqe he has never said anything about chris c. if you are so sur eof yourself post the mag and page.
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Anybody got that picture of Peter McGough incline 5 plates while lying down on his chair in the office?
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;D ;D ;D
i'll check my flex collection
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I doubt Chris Lund uses fake weights because every bodybuilder who works with him tells me how hard they work.
I'm sure that if any pro has, they'd come forward and say something?
well then it's funny that they always seem train heavier for flex photo shoots than in any videos of them. you'd think that a nearly offseason ronnie would be stronger in cost of redemption than he was for his flex shoots, but there he is squatting 9 plates on those glossy pages. and without knee wraps or the suit he needed when doing 55 pounds less in his video. amazing.
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Some guys, like Neveaux, has always been using fake plates. Obviously the best way to make a good photoshoot, better safety, and also allows for holding doing slower reps et al.
The photographer has to make sure the BB isn't loading up the BB with too much weight, making the picture look ridiculous.
The photographer who did the shoot with Mark Dugdale could easily verify or nullify the lift.
Personally, I'm with Cormier's ghostwriter this time.
No way Dugdale inclined 495 lbs.
YIP
Zack
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The hardcore reference must remain a secret I'm afraid. Just knowing the reason could put lives in danger.
I doubt Chris Lund uses fake weights because every bodybuilder who works with him tells me how hard they work.
I'm sure that if any pro has, they'd come forward and say something?
From what I understand, he's started to use fake weights after the JP incident.
Perhaps not to the same extent as Neveaux, but some fake weights nevertheless.
Don't take my word for it though.
I'm sure Perine or some other guy could verify it.
YIP
Zack
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;D ;D ;D
i'll check my flex collection
I don't think it was real cause he wasn't even sweating but if it is... wow that flab filled man most have the strengh juice extracted from a bufallo and drink it every day after an intense interview session!
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Mark put up pics of him doing a 675 squat in his gym with his own camera about a month before he won the USA`s
As per Flex well all the mags have fake bullshit photos. This has been going on for years
PS when there is more than 400lbs on a barbell they tend to be bent a bit in the photos
so if you see someone lifting any exercise over that amount and there absolutely no bend in the bar well draw your own conclusions
go back to mayhem suck ass.
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Anybody got that picture of Peter McGough incline 5 plates while lying down on his chair in the office?
That was way too realistic ;D
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Dennis James says in the current FLEX mag that he knows he is strong, and is capable of lifting 405 for several reps on the incline bench. I guess he didn't realize Dugdale blows him away on the incline. ::)
Personally, I don't believe Mark is capable of lifting 495 on the inclines. I've seen him in the gym, and he is a thick dude. But 495 for reps sounds like too much for him. I'll take him at his word if Mark himself comes on the boards and states that he has done this.
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Few points....
#1 everyone has their strong lifts. Im a shoulder guy myself. Duggy must be a pusher.
#2 Iv have a video of Cormier doin 405x12 reps on the incline. He slaps on the plates and they clank, you know they are real. Id almost guarantee Cormier could hit 495x2-3
#3 Who forgot hes like 5'6? Arch your chest, dont touch your chest (which is proper form), shoulders back.... and you got yourself maybe 5-6 inches range of motion. If hes powerful on incline like i assume he is by lookin at him, i believe 495x1-2 on a good day.
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Dennis James says in the current FLEX mag that he knows he is strong, and is capable of lifting 405 for several reps on the incline bench. I guess he didn't realize Dugdale blows him away on the incline. ::)
Personally, I don't believe Mark is capable of lifting 495 on the inclines. I've seen him in the gym, and he is a thick dude. But 495 for reps sounds like too much for him. I'll take him at his word if Mark himself comes on the boards and states that he has done this.
Dennis has a picture showing him doing 595 * 3 on the incline. Something doesn't add up ???
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So what.............it's a photo shoot. Maybe he's doing heavy negatives? Mark trains a lot like Dorian...........heavy assisted movements.
His squat is his strongest lift..........have seen him push 500x10, ass to the floor....no assist. Some of you should back off the negative comments.........as many of you couldn't lift his wallet.
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So what.............it's a photo shoot. Maybe he's doing heavy negatives? Mark trains a lot like Dorian...........heavy assisted movements.
His squat is his strongest lift..........have seen him push 500x10, ass to the floor....no assist. Some of you should back off the negative comments.........as many of you couldn't lift his wallet.
Dorian never advocated negative only sets. He would incorporate negatives only after he had reached failure with a weight he could manage. In addition, Dorian never used negatives on free weight, compound movements like the incline bench press. Forced reps, sure, but never negatives because it is dangerous. He did use negatives frequently on the Hammer Strength incline press however.
Don't mistake doubt/skepticism as negativity.
We're to readily assume he can bench press 495 because he can squat 500 for repetitions? What sort of logic is that?Your example is irrelevant. Lastly, you urge us to "back off the negative comments", yet you conclude with a negative comment!
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Dennis has a picture showing him doing 595 * 3 on the incline. Something doesn't add up ???
he's on video doing 455 for two or three. i think it's in a bfto tape, so that was right outside a contest. so 405 for a few on incline isn't a challenge for him.
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he's on video doing 455 for two or three. i think it's in a bfto tape, so that was right outside a contest. so 405 for a few on incline isn't a challenge for him.
What can he do off-season?
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Few points....
#1 everyone has their strong lifts. Im a shoulder guy myself. Duggy must be a pusher.
#2 Iv have a video of Cormier doin 405x12 reps on the incline. He slaps on the plates and they clank, you know they are real. Id almost guarantee Cormier could hit 495x2-3
#3 Who forgot hes like 5'6? Arch your chest, dont touch your chest (which is proper form), shoulders back.... and you got yourself maybe 5-6 inches range of motion. If hes powerful on incline like i assume he is by lookin at him, i believe 495x1-2 on a good day.
ive sen a vid of cormier reppin 405 on inclines... and on bench
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go back to mayhem suck ass.
nobody is sucking ass but I bet you love the cock just the same
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nobody is sucking ass but I bet you love the cock just the same
that's not what your mom says.
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His mom likes it rough with cumcumbers.
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OMG sarcasm posted this last minute and mars is already behind him. Do they have a buddy system or something?
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that's not what your mom says.
Maybe but you were the load your dad should have not spit but swallowed
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His mom likes it rough with cumcumbers.
your mom has a taste for only cocks she is related to
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OMG sarcasm posted this last minute and mars is already behind him. Do they have a buddy system or something?
The buddy system has kept them both safe ;D
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What can he do off-season?
supposedly 585 for three. in the picture its debateable how much the spotter is helping, but it doesn't look like much, so at worst he's pushing in the low 500s. it's pretty likely that he's one of those guys who can't do any more flat than they do incline. strongerthanall, the guy on bolex with the 540 incline, raw benches roughly the same, so guys with shitloads of shoulders seem to be like that.
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Darrem Charles was doing seated military with 3 plates free-weight for a flex shoot just looking at the camera as if to say "what". Darrem's cool . . .
(http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/2004/orlando04p4big.jpg)
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The buddy system has kept them both safe ;D
Are you saying that sarcasm and mars like to spoon at night in bed that way they feel protected by the bed sheets and certain cheeks.
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Are you saying that sarcasm and mars like to spoon at night in bed that way they feel protected by the bed sheets and certain cheeks.
LOL. I guess having their manhood nestled in a pair of hairy cheeks gives them all the shelter they need.
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LOL. I guess having their manhood nestled in a pair of hairy cheeks gives them all the shelter they need.
So this must be the reason why sarcasm started this thread:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=68179.0
I think they are looking for a third party.
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supposedly 585 for three. in the picture its debateable how much the spotter is helping, but it doesn't look like much, so at worst he's pushing in the low 500s. it's pretty likely that he's one of those guys who can't do any more flat than they do incline. strongerthanall, the guy on bolex with the 540 incline, raw benches roughly the same, so guys with shitloads of shoulders seem to be like that.
It looks like he really is doing it, but with that amount of weight, I don't know :-\