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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Matt C on May 12, 2006, 03:20:26 PM
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Head like a hole.
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nah, most natural guys at my gym look that good. What's he been training, 6 months? 9 months?
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nah, most natural guys at my gym look that good. What's he been training, 6 months? 9 months?
u asshole..
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Who's that, Layne Norton?
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He looks big in that pic
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Speaking of winning, Layne recently got his natural pro card at the 2006 OCB Great Lakes Championships
Sami al Haddad is a natural, and he looks way bigger.
Layne must not work hard enough.
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looks solid
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I think he looks great! Outstanding conditioning and hardness! Word is that he is also working toward a Ph.D. A great example of someone who breaks the meathead stereotype.
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I'll tell you one thing - few pros would be anywhere near his size if they had the patience to train naturally. It pisses me off anytime some pro says that juice is a small factor in bodybuilding. I'd like them to try training naturally for a few months and then tell me how difficult and trying it is. Layne has taken it very far as a natural, it's nothing short of amazing. His bench must be pushing 405 at this point.
I agree. The guy handles heavy weights and is very dedicated. He also does his best to learn everything there is to know about bodybuilidng. Many people would have resorted to juice years ago if they were in his shoes.
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I'll tell you one thing - few pros would be anywhere near his size if they had the patience to train naturally. It pisses me off anytime some pro says that juice is a small factor in bodybuilding. I'd like them to try training naturally for a few months and then tell me how difficult and trying it is. Layne has taken it very far as a natural, it's nothing short of amazing. His bench must be pushing 405 at this point.
I'm inclined to agree with you. The haters will probably chime in any minute now, but IF he's natural, and I have no reason to believe he isn't, then getting into that kind of condition is quite a feat. It certainly takes more work (and smarts) when you factor drugs out of the equation.
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Quadless prick.. He won't go far
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Quadless prick.. He won't go far
He doesn't have the best quads, but natural bodybuilders rarely have the cartoon-like quads of steroid users.
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Quadless prick.. He won't go far
He's already gone far (natural pro status) so I'd have to say you're a little late in that prediction!
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Quadless prick.. He won't go far
seriously, is there a certain kind of pleasure that comes with putting people down? Lay off the hate bro, the guy works extremely hard!
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I have to admit, Layne looks pretty good. On the thread over at MM there are some pretty decent shots of him.
Yeah exactly.
How is it any different than winning an IFBB pro card? The contests attract the best naturals around just as pro contests attract the best juicers around. The playing field is level either way.
With no disrespect to anyone it is considerably easier to win pro status in a natural fed then the IFBB. Again, no disrespect intended.
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He's already gone far (natural pro status) so I'd have to say you're a little late in that prediction!
Great post! The haters have lost again ;D
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Speak on this.
Okay nugga ;D
For one..there are a variety of natty feds....IFPA, WNBF, NGA, PNBA to name a few. If all the natty orgs were consolidated and there was one governing body than it would be a different story. Right now, with so many natty feds the talent pool is spread thin. Just look at the numbers in a natty pro-q compared to the NPC nationals. By sheer virtue of numbers alone, the IFBB is more competitive. Also, I am just speaking from my own personal experience having competed in both natty and IFBB proqualifiers.
Not trying to negate the accomplishment of Layne or anyone else mind you, as it is far from easy to attain a natural pro card.
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Okay nugga ;D
For one..there are a variety of natty feds....IFPA, WNBF, NGA, PNBA to name a few. If all the natty orgs were consolidated and there was one governing body than it would be a different story. Right now, with so many natty feds the talent pool is spread thin. Just look at the numbers in a natty pro-q compared to the NPC nationals. By sheer virtue of numbers alone, the IFBB is more competitive. Also, I am just speaking from my own personal experience having competed in both natty and IFBB proqualifiers.
Not trying to negate the accomplishment of Layne or anyone else mind you, as it is far from easy to attain a natural pro card.
Green is not a pretty color on you, honey ;D
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what type of drug testing goes on in this "natural" federation? Also, what's on the banned list? AAS? GH? Insulin? Prohormones? Diuretics?
BTW - in that pic, he looks better than I've ever seen him, but his quads SUCK! Why are they so shitty?
Now that he's a pro, how long before he's playing butt-bongo-webcam-fiesta with schmoes?
He's on his way to getting a Ph.d. He's not going to get involved in that nonsense. ::) His quads aren't great because of genetics, the same reason yours were so impressive.
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never been a fan of his physque, but hes an animal in the gym, and hes the most dedicated person there is.
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never been a fan of his physque, but hes an animal in the gym, and hes the most dedicated person there is.
Great post! His dedication to the sport is no less than Dorian Yates's was.
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Great post! His dedication to the sport is no less than Dorian Yates's was.
seeing his lifts, shows what can be achieved naturally,
plus he pwned bob a couple of years back on bodybuidling.com!
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if theres one guy that id say was natural, its layne lorton.
strongest natural bodybuidler ive ever seen.
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polygraph!? Whopty fucking doo!!! You've got to be shitting me ::)
So the reason his upper body looks good, has nothing to do with how hard he's trained it? It's just his genetics ::)
Unless I see four independent blood/urine tests, taken randomly throughout the year from a reputable lab, I'm going to go ahead and say that Laim Norton is another juice monkey who looks subpar, so he claims to be natural...
...and no Luscius, I'm not jealous...I DWARF him! Ha ha!
Of course he has better upper body genetics, but he trains everything hard and smart so you can see that his lower body genetics aren't as good. I think I can see who you really are. You are upset that he is going to be more educated than you and he is still going to compete and be healthy, things that you could never do. :-\
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think mindspins is being a "hater" here. :-\
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think mindspins is being a "hater" here. :-\
He says it's not jealousy, but I don't believe him. :'(
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Green is not a pretty color on you, honey ;D
All I did was state my case of the difference between obtaining natty/IFBB pro status.
So.....are you insinuating I am jealous?
If so, what am I jealous of?
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All I did was state my case of the difference between obtaining natty/IFBB pro status.
So.....are you insinuating I am jealous?
If so, what am I jealous of?
I am just kidding. ;D You know me.
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I am just kidding. ;D You know me.
I will grace you with my forgiveness in that case :-*
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Mindspin has a awsome physique but even I see you are hating here bro.... You think you would be bigger than Norton if you competed clean when you where like 199 on the sauce?
That kid is just as ripped as you there apparently clean. I am a huge fan of Yemenis physique but if he natty(which is totally believable) calling him shitty is plain absurd.
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layne is really impressive in these pics. he looks like he kept some muscle mass for once, he s what a very knowledgeable natural bber should be.
I respect his physique and him far more than any "ifbb pro bber".
At least layne masters how to build muscle, while these homos masters how to juice.
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Mindspin has a awsome physique but even I see you are hating here bro.... You think you would be bigger than Norton if you competed clean when you where like 199 on the sauce?
That kid is just as ripped as you there apparently clean. I am a huge fan of Yemenis physique but if he natty(which is totally believable) calling him shitty is plain absurd.
Why did Mindspin succumb to hatred? :-\
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We have a winner. ;)
Speaking of winning, Layne recently won his natural pro card at the 2006 OCB Great Lakes Championships
His conditioning is as good as anyone's.
not natural! but CLEAN. i also doubt the clean i suspect use of gh (cant and wont be tested in the near future) and short half life tab form anabolics (winstrol most likely or anything else at the 8-12hr range half life) beside that he is pretty much natural.
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So anytime that I offer critizism or a negative opinion I'm jealous? Oh brother...
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So anytime that I offer critizism or a negative opinion I'm jealous? Oh brother...
Green is not a pretty color on you :-\
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Layne's hard work is amazing. He's a beast in the gym, definitely someone completely dedicated. Major props for that.
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not natural! but CLEAN. i also doubt the clean i suspect use of gh (cant and wont be tested in the near future) and short half life tab form anabolics (winstrol most likely or anything else at the 8-12hr range half life) beside that he is pretty much natural.
Another guy who thinks it's St. Patrick's Day :-\
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One thing this guy has never touched............a squat rack! Legs are very subpar even for natural show. Numerous "clean" athletes with much better symmetry. Excellent conditioning though, the guy obviously diets hard.
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One thing this guy has never touched............a squat rack! Legs are very subpar even for natural show. Numerous "clean" athletes with much better symmetry. Excellent conditioning though, the guy obviously diets hard.
He starts dieting 22 weeks out I believe.
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One thing this guy has never touched............a squat rack! Legs are very subpar even for natural show. Numerous "clean" athletes with much better symmetry. Excellent conditioning though, the guy obviously diets hard.
What's with the quotation marks around clean? Are you a hater, too? :-\
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not every guy who uses gh get huge out of it. not every guy who uses gh get abdominal space from it...its depends on your genetics disposition. many guys only get shredded/ripped on gh at low dose since it makes it easier for them to get their bf% down to where it needs to be....then 2-4 weeks pre stage time they will eliminate the gh out of the equation. i would say this guy used/use gh at low doses! im 100% sure he uses anabolic form tabs such as winstrol.
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Not a "hater", just a "realist".
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Two more haters that hate to see a smart young man get his Ph.d. while also competing naturally :-\
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Two more haters that hate to see a smart young man get his Ph.d. while also competing naturally :-\
They can hate all they want, but Layne is as smart as they come. Definitely a positive influence among bodybuilders!
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They can hate all they want, but Layne is as smart as they come. Definitely a positive influence among bodybuilders!
You're right, as usual. Lane is an excellent role model!
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You're right, as usual.
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You asked us to critique his physiquel, not his SAT score. He is in excellent shape and may be a bright lad. I come from a time when natural meant tuna and chicken breasts, and the only supplement around was milk'n egg powder. In my books, none of these lads are truly natural. Supplements,creatine, nitrox, thermos, etc is not a form of chemical enhancement? Clean or not, the boy needs some legs. Period. Amen.
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You asked us to critique his physiquel, not his SAT score. He is in excellent shape and may be a bright lad. I come from a time when natural meant tuna and chicken breasts, and the only supplement around was milk'n egg powder. In my books, none of these lads are truly natural. Supplements,creatine, nitrox, thermos, etc is not a form of chemical enhancement? Clean or not, the boy needs some legs. Period. Amen.
Why are you trying to act like an old man? What are you, 30? 40? ::)
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Why are you trying to act like an old man? What are you, 30? 40? ::)
I had a kid about 15 years old the other day come into this store I work in at school and ask about creatine. First question was: "Hey, what is creatine? Is it like a steroid?" It's something that I get a lot, the other is some fat lady asking me "Now, is this diet pill gonna work?" ::)
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Fantastic shape/conditioning.
Its hard to tell from the pic, but his leg might look a little slender..maybe hes just tall?
Who knows if he takes anything, what does it matter, he looks great..but I think thats attainable def naturally. Doesnt have the mass to really say hes on the gear.
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Definitly natural. Tank top bodybuilder tho. Gonna need "ass to the grass" squats and pulling trucks, uphill, on weekends. To hell with the genetics, thatll get them quads growin. ;D
Good to see he has some balance in his life tho
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I had a kid about 15 years old the other day come into this store I work in at school and ask about creatine. First question was: "Hey, what is creatine? Is it like a steroid?" It's something that I get a lot, the other is some fat lady asking me "Now, is this diet pill gonna work?" ::)
I'm tempted to think the kid was being sarcastic, but something tells me he was not ;D
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Definitly natural. Tank top bodybuilder tho. Gonna need "ass to the grass" squats and pulling trucks, uphill, on weekends. To hell with the genetics, thatll get them quads growin. ;D
Good to see he has some balance in his life tho
Are you saying that he just can't bring himself to train legs? ;D
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So anytime that I offer critizism or a negative opinion I'm jealous? Oh brother...
Mindspin you have a vendetta for lane. Anyone who has been posting here for awhile knows that. You bash the shit out of the kid at any chance given. Like I said you have an incredible physique but the post you put up before was clearly hater motivated. A man of you're intelligence and previous competion experience would not call that physique shit. That is one hell of a physique for a natural weak legs or not. Not a flame boss just opinion.
You praised mesomorph when he posted those vids and Lane is bigger than that dude.
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not natural! but CLEAN. i also doubt the clean i suspect use of gh (cant and wont be tested in the near future) and short half life tab form anabolics (winstrol most likely or anything else at the 8-12hr range half life) beside that he is pretty much natural.
Yep, that's what I was thinking. I've seen pictures of him looking a little too bloated to be natural all the time. His conditioning is good, I'll give him that.
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Mindspin you have a vendetta for lane. Anyone who has been posting here for awhile knows that. You bash the shit out of the kid at any chance given. Like I said you have an incredible physique but the post you put up before was clearly hater motivated. A man of you're intelligence and previous competion experience would not call that physique shit. That is one hell of a physique for a natural weak legs or not. Not a flame boss just opinion.
I just don't know why he is jealous. I think it may be because Lane is getting a Ph.d.
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I just don't know why he is jealous. I think it may be because Lane is getting a Ph.d.
I dont think he is jealous as Yemeni has poss-ed a first rate physique before. Just more of a general dislike of him because he can be irritating.
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Yep, that's what I was thinking. I've seen pictures of him looking a little too bloated to be natural all the time. His conditioning is good, I'll give him that.
Ding, some of us nattys are bloated in the offseason. Shit i have thick skin and acne all year round. My testosterone has been tested twice and its stupid high. But a high test level also comes with estrogen which causes some of those effects. Hes not nearly big enuff to be a juicer even part time.
He did say that he has to diet 22 weeks so hes cant be to lean naturally. Some of us are not natural "Ab-shooters" LOL. ;D
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Ding, some of us nattys are bloated in the offseason. Shit i have thick skin and acne all year round. My testosterone has been tested twice and its stupid high. But a high test level also comes with estrogen which causes some of those effects. Hes not nearly big enuff to be a juicer even part time.
He did say that he has to diet 22 weeks so hes cant be to lean naturally. Some of us are not natural "Ab-shooters" LOL. ;D
Ok bro, I see your point, and for the most part I'm sure he is natural. But, have you ever seen pictures of him when he's not cut? It looks more like water retention than fat, reminds me of someone who just got on something like dbol. I won't say he's not natural, he may very well be, I just personally think he hits a few of the goodies that clear your system within a day, and possibly some GH for leanness.
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Ok bro, I see your point, and for the most part I'm sure he is natural. But, have you ever seen pictures of him when he's not cut? It looks more like water retention than fat, reminds me of someone who just got on something like dbol. I won't say he's not natural, he may very well be, I just personally think he hits a few of the goodies that clear your system within a day.
Jealous?
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Jealous?
Nope, just realistic.
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Nope, just realistic.
What next. Are you going to say that Skip LaCour juices?
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What next. Are you going to say that Skip LaCour juices?
Nope, I believe Skip is 100% natural and has always been
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Nope, I believe Skip is 100% natural and has always been
I've misjudged you. You're obviously not a hater :-\
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I've misjudged you. You're obviously not a hater :-\
Ding is kool. And im a waterbag without steroids. :'( But Im Hellish Huge. ;D
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Ding is kool. And im a waterbag without steroids. :'( But Im Hellish Huge. ;D
I guess there is no such thing as a free lunch ;D
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Ding is kool. And im a waterbag without steroids. :'( But Im Hellish Huge. ;D
Thanks bro. You've got a massive natural build, no need for roids. As for the water, you can drop that with a good diet.
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Thanks bro. You've got a massive natural build, no need for roids. As for the water, you can drop that with a good diet.
Im on it my friend. Next pics will be quite a difference. Down to 232 this A.M. Have dropped 10lbs of water and 10 lbs of fat since the last pic.
Fox....Amen to that!!!
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Im on it my friend. Next pics will be quite a difference. Down to 232 this A.M. Have dropped 10lbs of water and 10 lbs of fat since the last pic.
Fox....Amen to that!!!
Good job my man, look forward to seeing your progress.
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Im on it my friend. Next pics will be quite a difference. Down to 232 this A.M. Have dropped 10lbs of water and 10 lbs of fat since the last pic.
Fox....Amen to that!!!
Is your face looking any different yet?
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Yes Nugga
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Is your face looking any different yet?
Girls are asking me out again. :-\ Im so happily married, its not even a thought. ;D
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Really. What the hell???
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seriously, is there a certain kind of pleasure that comes with putting people down? Lay off the hate bro, the guy works extremely hard!
Yes Paki.. The pipe tastes good. ;D ;D
He'll do well in PDI than IFBB
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Girls are asking me out again. :-\ Im so happily married, its not even a thought. ;D
What are her rules for what constitutes cheating? ;D
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What are her rules for what constitutes cheating? ;D
If you have to ask, it's cheating!
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Its weird.....my wife and daughter are everything to me. Im flattered ......but am not even tempted. 8)
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Its weird.....my wife and daughter are everything to me. Im flattered ......but am not even tempted. 8)
i hear ya. and all that energy you used to use to chase ass... suddenly it's being used for good, not evil, right?
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I think Layne looks better than 240.
What do you guys think?
Although 240 has a better Zangief patch.
I own Layne when it comes to that.
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Dwarfed him you mean. These days he would make you his bitch. ;D
Now as long as he makes the squat rack his bitch he should do just fine. :)
Yem posted a current pic and he looks better than lane by a mile.
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Mindspin you have a vendetta for lane. Anyone who has been posting here for awhile knows that. You bash the shit out of the kid at any chance given. Like I said you have an incredible physique but the post you put up before was clearly hater motivated. A man of you're intelligence and previous competion experience would not call that physique shit. That is one hell of a physique for a natural weak legs or not. Not a flame boss just opinion.
You praised mesomorph when he posted those vids and Lane is bigger than that dude.
I can't be bothered to check the entire thread but I believe what he said was that layne's quads are shitty, which is true. His upper body makes his quads look small.
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Yem posted a current pic and he looks better than lane by a mile.
Really? Oh, I thought he was done juicing.
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what type of drug testing goes on in this "natural" federation? Also, what's on the banned list? AAS? GH? Insulin? Prohormones? Diuretics?
BTW - in that pic, he looks better than I've ever seen him, but his quads SUCK! Why are they so shitty?
Now that he's a pro, how long before he's playing butt-bongo-webcam-fiesta with schmoes?
why do you hate on this guy everytime his pics are posted?
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Really? Oh, I thought he was done juicing.
he posted a pic of his 16 inch arm, with a tshirt on, he looked like samuel powers with some tredny glasses on. ::)
LAYNE PWNS him.
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He looks very, very good. He is big and cut. Keeping as much muscle as he has and being cut and being a natural is tough. If everyone trained and competed naturally the men would be seperated from the boys.
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not natural! but CLEAN. i also doubt the clean i suspect use of gh (cant and wont be tested in the near future) and short half life tab form anabolics (winstrol most likely or anything else at the 8-12hr range half life) beside that he is pretty much natural.
How can you supspect GH use when he doesn't look it?
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he posted a pic of his 16 inch arm, with a tshirt on, he looked like samuel powers with some tredny glasses on. ::)
LAYNE PWNS him.
If his peaked biceps are 16"...............Then your are 12 1/2" in your cormier thread. ::)
Ill admit it suprised me when mindspin reacted this way........Why? Spin could kill this guy on stage without drugs.
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We have a winner. ;)
Speaking of winning, Layne recently won his natural pro card at the 2006 OCB Great Lakes Championships
His conditioning is as good as anyone's.
Great physique and prrof one can be shreeded without drugs if they diet and come in right ,etc.
Saddly the natural pro card is a bit of a sham. On the positive side , he won't have to spend his money and squander his health on absurd levels of drugs just to be a pro.
Howard
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I've misjudged you. You're obviously not a hater :-\
Why do you have to judge people at all? It just amounts to you judging those who judge others.
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where is Yemeni's explanation for the hate?
i'm guessing layne banned him from bb.com :)
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I have nothing against Layne, but I do think he is overrated for sure.
These pics were taken 2 weeks out from an OCB contest this year.
Goes to show you how lighting,tan and proper photographer can make a huge difference.
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I have nothing against Layne, but I do think he is overrated for sure.
These pics were taken 2 weeks out from an OCB contest this year.
Definitely overrated. He looks awful in those pics. No legs, shallow chest, high lats, non-existent triceps, bizarre structure... All he's got is a giant ribcage and small-but-peaked biceps. If that's what a 'natural pro' looks like, thank God for steroids!
Goudy crushes him, BTW. ;)
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He is overated I just called on that hate since I saw Yemeni praising mesomorph yet bashing Layne to shit when they are about the same size.
In natural shape Yemni obv has the better genetics. As of right now Layne is bigger tho.....
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That kid looks pretty ripped! Whats the strory?
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In natural shape Yemni obv has the better genetics.
has yemeni posted drug free pics in posing trunks?
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Not to my knowledge.... Jus the ones from when he was on and some recents fully clothed. Biceps split was impressive but he was obv clean. Not anywhere as large as before. But on structure and genetics alone Yemeni is far ahead of Layne based on genetics for shape sweep etc but to say he sucks is ludacris.
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This guy is a great poser. ::)
What's with his most muscular? Stop doing that!
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This guy is a great poser. ::)
What's with his most muscular? Stop doing that!
O man that routine makes it hard for me to stick up for this kid lol! The most muscular is a rip off from that amature black dude in Mike Katz section of the movie Pumping Iron....
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Yeah the costume was pretty much pointless. I mean , seriously, he came out in a mask and straight-jacket. Twenty seconds later he's down to his trunks. What's the fuckin' point? Stupid.
Here's another video I found. I could only take so much of this schmo's yelling.
More: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3419848615516816460&q=layne+norton
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-957051424085311992&q=layne+norton
If I walked in his gym I would say he's a basketball player, not a bodybuilder.
Ok. I'm done melting down now! ;D
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Layne's posing does need work. He goes from pose after pose quickly and it makes it look like he has something to hide when he does not.
He needs to slow it down a little.
His posing is a weakpoint along with his legs. Other than that he has an excellent physique.
Very helpful on the boards but at the same time very condenscending. It can get get annoying.
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Layne's posing does need work. He goes from pose after pose quickly and it makes it look like he has something to hide when he does not.
He needs to slow it down a little.
His posing is a weakpoint along with his legs. Other than that he has an excellent physique.
Yes, I agree that he needs to slow down when posing.
I don't like his physique whatsoever. But I do like his conditioning. I'll give the benefit of the doubt and say he's natural. With that said, he obviously diets hard and hits the cardio just as hard. That is to be commended.
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Its funny how some of you are reacting to mindspin's hate.
Fact of the matter is mindspin is just keeping it real, we had the grudge on Layne back on the day and its not going to be given up.
I still remember when his nutjockey friend skippy podar let me know he was going to "breed me".
Awesome idea!
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I still remember when his nutjockey friend skippy podar let me know he was going to "breed me".
I recall that well :-\
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Is mindspin still benching 385 like Layne though? Just curious.
Layne benchese 385 ??? I call bull last I saw he waas only using the 140s for bench. :-\
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blocky with terrible tie-ins and weak legs has some good size though
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Its funny how some of you are reacting to mindspin's hate.
Fact of the matter is mindspin is just keeping it real, we had the grudge on Layne back on the day and its not going to be given up.
I still remember when his nutjockey friend skippy podar let me know he was going to "breed me".
Awesome idea!
it's shocking to hear you support a fellow hater ::)
just curious because mindspin doesn't hate that often but when layne's pics are posted he drinks the haterade
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Is mindspin still benching 385 like Layne though? Just curious.
is that all he benches?
I would think he could do more because I remember seeing a video of him like a year ago repping the 150lb dumbells
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is that all he benches?
I would think he could do more because I remember seeing a video of him like a year ago repping the 150lb dumbells
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Thats weak! If he can bench 380 he should be able to do the 180s for reps!
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Thats weak! If he can bench 380 he should be able to do the 180s for reps!
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Earl whEn do you End you mEsagEs with and E? Does E stand for EngagE into LEvronE?
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Earl whEn do you End you mEsagEs with and E? Does E stand for EngagE into LEvronE?
yeah you got me ::)
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yeah you got me ::)
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Are you proud to be the e in levronE? I choose the one in the end for you. ;)
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Are you proud to be the e in levronE? I choose the one in the end for you. ;)
yEah ::)
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it's shocking to hear you support a fellow hater ::)
just curious because mindspin doesn't hate that often but when layne's pics are posted he drinks the haterade
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Earl I only support haters that come with a decent angle or some creativity.
Give mindspin more credit. He was the originator of the one and only single greatest anti manface thread that ever was on getbig.
He's just all covert now because his milli vanilli days are over and now he's a corporate cowboy with 2? kids.
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Ha ha ha! Oh brother...let's just get some basic facts straight:
1. I don't know Norton...have never interacted with him...never even seen him post here. So, I have nothing against the guy on a persona level.
2. I didn't say he looked like shit. In fact, if anyone cares to read my 1st post on this thread, you'll see that I said he looks better than ever, but that his legs still suck.
3. I still think he is over hyped and I'm not the slightest bit impressed with his physique. Although he has put on some size, and he is able to get in great condition, he has a ugly hideous look...zero aesthetics, no legs, no back thickness and a weird oversized rib-cage.
4. I suspect he is not clean, not because he is "huge" or because he is "shredded". There are lots of naturals out there who are much bigger and just as diced. He, however, has that "androgen" look that comes only from gear. It's hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. Meso, for example, has more muscle and is just as lean as Norton, but he does not have the "androgen" look. I do believe Meso is clean...and looks waaaaaay better.
5. Someone made a comment that Norton "dwarfs" me or that he looks way better. You know what? The guy is in his prime and has been consistently competing/training for the last few years. I, on the other hand, have been done with this for over ten years, during which time I have trained sporadically, eaten like shit, been totally clean and intentionally tried to lose muscle to compete in endurance type of events. I would hope Norton looks better, but he doesn’t! I still DAWRF his ass today. Ha ha! Life is good ;D
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Ha ha ha! Oh brother...let's just get some basic facts straight:
1. I don't know Norton...have never interacted with him...never even seen him post here. So, I have nothing against the guy on a persona level.
2. I didn't say he looked like shit. In fact, if anyone cares to read my 1st post on this thread, you'll see that I said he looks better than ever, but that his legs still suck.
3. I still think he is over hyped and I'm not the slightest bit impressed with his physique. Although he has put on some size, and he is able to get in great condition, he has a ugly hideous look...zero aesthetics, no legs, no back thickness and a weird oversized rib-cage.
4. I suspect he is not clean, not because he is "huge" or because he is "shredded". There are lots of naturals out there who are much bigger and just as diced. He, however, has that "androgen" look that comes only from gear. It's hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. Meso, for example, has more muscle and is just as lean as Norton, but he does not have the "androgen" look. I do believe Meso is clean...and looks waaaaaay better.
5. Someone made a comment that Norton "dwarfs" me or that he looks way better. You know what? The guy is in his prime and has been consistently competing/training for the last few years. I, on the other hand, have been done with this for over ten years, during which time I have trained sporadically, eaten like shit, been totally clean and intentionally tried to lose muscle to compete in endurance type of events. I would hope Norton looks better, but he doesn’t! I still DAWRF his ass today. Ha ha! Life is good ;D
An "androgen" look ::) Yeah, he certainly looks like he has been hitting the test ::) He dwarfs you, just accept it and move on. :-\
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An "androgen" look ::) Yeah, he certainly looks like he has been hitting the test ::) He dwarfs you, just accept it and move on. :-\
How would you know what the "androgen" look is? I competed both on and off gear. I've seen hundreds of bodybuilders up-close both clean and on gear. What's your base of experience ?
By the way, how would you know he dwarfs me? Have you seen what I look like now?
Do you always arrive at conclusions with little or no information?
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How would you know what the "androgen" look is? I competed both on and off gear. I've seen hundreds of bodybuilders up-close both clean and on gear. What's your base of experience ?
By the way, how would you know he dwarfs me? Have you seen what I look like now?
Do you always arrive at conclusions with little or no information?
And how did you know when a supposedly natural guy was using gear besides this "look" ::) You need to have independent confirmation, not to mention that you can't always just tell by looking. I've seen a recent pic of you and I can tell that Layne makes you look like a middle-aged man :-\
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And how did you know when a supposedly natural guy was using gear besides this "look" ::) You need to have independent confirmation, not to mention that you can't always just tell by looking. I've seen a recent pic of you and I can tell that Layne makes you look like a middle-aged man :-\
lol middle aged man ;D
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33 is middle aged ??? Ha ha ha! Here is the most recent of me...216lbs, 17.5" arms, 33" waist, 18.5" calves. again, keep in mind...I don't compete anymore. As shitty as my genetics are, I would hold my own against Norton. What does that say about his genetics? Dude's in the wrong sport. Fortunatelly he has some sort of education to fall back on...
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33 is middle aged ??? Ha ha ha! Here is the most recent of me...216lbs, 17.5" arms, 33" waist, 18.5" calves. again, keep in mind...I don't compete anymore. As shitty as my genetics are, I would hold my own against Norton. What does that say about his genetics? Dude's in the wrong sport. Fortunatelly he has some sort of education to fall back on...
When was the last time you worked out consistently? :-\ Your arms look good, but the fact that you are hiding the rest and apparently have a gh belly kind of scares me :-\
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When was the last time you worked out consistently? :-\ Your arms look good, but the fact that you are hiding the rest and apparently have a gh belly kind of scares me :-\
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Its obvious that even with the cardio routines Spin is doing, hes got lane beat by a mile.
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33 is middle aged ??? Ha ha ha! Here is the most recent of me...216lbs, 17.5" arms, 33" waist, 18.5" calves. again, keep in mind...I don't compete anymore. As shitty as my genetics are, I would hold my own against Norton. What does that say about his genetics? Dude's in the wrong sport. Fortunatelly he has some sort of education to fall back on...
You got some great arms for having some small as wrists. Describe what exactly the "androgen" look is? Do your facial features change?
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Its obvious that even with the cardio routines Spin is doing, hes got lane beat by a mile.
Layne can get into condition in a way than MindSpin could never dream of. It would be similar to Zane's victory over a young Arnold.
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When was the last time you worked out consistently? :-\ Your arms look good, but the fact that you are hiding the rest and apparently have a gh belly kind of scares me :-\
I've actually been consistenly in the gym for the last 10-12 weeks, however, my diet has been eating anything I pretty much want, which often consists of pizza...Ha ha! In four week, I start endurance training again, which means I'll be going back down to 185...
But, I'm not hiding anything. I don't run around in posing trunks all day taking pics of myself. That pic was taken by my assistant. I'm not about to drop my pants and have her take pics of me in my underwear ::) Maybe I will...if it will shut you up :-X
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I've actually been consistenly in the gym for the last 10-12 weeks, however, my diet has been eating anything I pretty much want, which often consists of pizza...Ha ha! In four week, I start endurance training again, which means I'll be going back down to 185...
But, I'm not hiding anything. I don't run around in posing trunks all day taking pics of myself. That pic was taken by my assistant. I'm not about to drop my pants and have her take pics of me in my underwear ::) Maybe I will...if it will shut you up :-X
Your arms look great, but you are obviously hiding your midsection. :-\ It can't be that bad, can it? :-\ Let me guess, you are going to take pictures after you have gone down to 185 to hide how fat you got? ::) :-\
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WTF are you smoking? Condition is what allowed me to beat guys who outweighed me by 30lbs. Here is me at 185 without one oce of fat on me and dry...
That was years ago, you will never get into that condition again ::) Stop living in the past ::) You were the past, but Layne is the future. Just accept it and move on :-\
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Your arms look great, but you are obviously hiding your midsection. :-\ It can't be that bad, can it? :-\ Let me guess, you are going to take pictures after you have gone down to 185 to hide how fat you got? ::) :-\
I'll tell you what Luscious, you post a pic of yourself tomorrow and I'll do the same...no shirt.
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That was years ago, you will never get into that condition again ::) Stop living in the past ::) You were the past, but Layne is the future. Just accept it and move on :-\
I have moved on, which is why I am no longer competing ::)
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Layne can get into condition in a way than MindSpin could never dream of. It would be similar to Zane's victory over a young Arnold.
LOL. Foxy havent you seen his comp pics in the pic gallery?? He kills poor layne. I know your being defiant cuz Spin has come off a little arrogant, but hes just telling the truth. Layne has crappy legs, a weird ribcage, and decent arms.
I disagree that laynes used steroids tho...........its obvious hed be better than that, if he had.
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I disagree that laynes used steroids tho...........its obvious hed be better than that, if he had.
You'd be surprised. I've seen guys on HEAVY gear that look far worse than Norton. Sad but true...
Okay, I'm done for today. Time to go back to real life. Luscious, have fun in your never ending "on-line life" :-\
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LOL. Foxy havent you seen his comp pics in the pic gallery?? He kills poor layne. I know your being defiant cuz Spin has come off a little arrogant, but hes just telling the truth. Layne has crappy legs, a weird ribcage, and decent arms.
I disagree that laynes used steroids tho...........its obvious hed be better than that, if he had.
Obviously MindSpin has better genetics and at his peak would have made Layne look like a Hurricane Katrina victim, but I am saying that right now, Layne would beat him in a contest. After all, Mindspin is retired and enjoying his middle age life. He is obviously very intelligent and a risk-taker and he deserves to settle down and enjoy life. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.
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You'd be surprised. I've seen guys on HEAVY gear that look far worse than Norton. Sad but true...
Okay, I'm done for today. Time to go back to real life. Luscious, have fun in your never ending "on-line life" :-\
Nice try, but I have a life ;D. If you want to trade shirtless pictures, that is fine, but you have to agree to a future Greco-Roman wrestling match. >:(
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mindspin im curious.....you're 33 and have been 'retired' for 10 years....that means you stopped AAS and serious training at 23. at what age did you start?
23 seems to be the minimum age someone should consider starting AAS, IMO, not the age at which they quit.
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mindspin im curious.....you're 33 and have been 'retired' for 10 years....that means you stopped AAS and serious training at 23. at what age did you start?
23 seems to be the minimum age someone should consider starting AAS, IMO, not the age at which they quit.
Maybe he only juiced for a few years.
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yemeni were you natural in the 185 pic?
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Yemeni why do you keep saying you're genetics suck!!!!! 216 with those peaks, natural with a full time job and 2 kids..
I hope my genetics suck like that when I am 33 lol!!!
PS wasn't trying to flame you I respect you and you're physique but you hate this Norten kid lol.
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Yemeni why do you keep saying you're genetics suck!!!!! 216 with those peaks, natural with a full time job and 2 kids..
I hope my genetics suck like that when I am 33 lol!!!
PS wasn't trying to flame you I respect you and you're physique but you hate this Norten kid lol.
Did Norton bang his wife? :-\
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yemeni were you natural in the 185 pic?
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No. I did my first show, the NPC Amateur Grand Prix Teen division clean. I was 18 and competed at a brutally huge 170. I took 2nd to a 19 year old who was juiced to the gills. In fact, I was the only natural guy in the show.
mindspin im curious.....you're 33 and have been 'retired' for 10 years....that means you stopped AAS and serious training at 23. at what age did you start?
23 seems to be the minimum age someone should consider starting AAS, IMO, not the age at which they quit.
I started at 20 yrs old and stopped at 23. I was on and off for three years.
Yemeni why do you keep saying you're genetics suck!!!!! 216 with those peaks, natural with a full time job and 2 kids..
I hope my genetics suck like that when I am 33 lol!!!
PS wasn't trying to flame you I respect you and you're physique but you hate this Norten kid lol.
Well, like I said, I’ve been hitting it pretty hard for the last 3 months and muscle seems to have very good memory. If I slack in my training, I very quickly go down to about 190-195 with about 14% BF.
I say my genetics suck because I have a very hard time putting on muscle, and I have fragile joints. It’s a bad combo because if I train hard and heavy for more than a few weeks everything starts hurting. Add to that slow recovery capabilities and weak response to gear. So, even if I had stuck with it, I would have never become a 270lb monster…
And no, I don’t hate Norton…don’t even know the guy. But, while he has improved, he does suck and I’m willing to bet he is not totally clean. Anyone have pics of him in the off season?
Nice try, but I have a life ;D. If you want to trade shirtless pictures, that is fine, but you have to agree to a future Greco-Roman wrestling match. >:(
Sorry “luscious”, but I don’t swing that way.
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I knew you would back down from a manly test of fortitude, MindSpin, you West coast liberals are known to be cowardly ;D
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I like the transitions in GetBig - from a Layne Norton Thread to a Mindspin thread. Its like shape shifting.
As far as Yemeni's physiques goes, its in the top 1% of all Americans. Couple that with running a business, having a family and whatever else he does in his spare time, and I have one word to describe people like him - "balanced".
Good job Mindspin.
As for Layne Norton, maybe more in the quads but heck, I don't think the guy is all that bad...
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I knew you would back down from a manly test of fortitude, MindSpin, you West coast liberals are known to be cowardly ;D
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Here is somthing for you to beat-off to anyway...
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Here is somthing for you to beat-off to anyway...
When was that taken mindspin? Oh, and BTW - You won by posting your pic.
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When was that taken mindspin? Oh, and BTW - You won by posting your pic.
10 minutes ago...
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Here is somthing for you to beat-off to anyway...
You could use a little more size on your arms, delts and chest other than that looking pretty jacked! 8)
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10 minutes ago...
No shit? Damn, if I ate like you claim I would look like shit. Although your physical genetics aren't so great(prone to injury as stated by you), you have excellent visual genetics.
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You could use a little more size on your arms, delts and chest other than that looking pretty jacked! 8)
Thanks - Keep in mind I have not done any overhead pressing in 10 years (shoulder are fooked) and I have not trained biceps (other than indirect work from back) in five months thanks to another weird injury in my left biceps...
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No shit? Damn, if I ate like you claim I would look like shit. Although your physical genetics aren't so great(prone to injury as stated by you), you have excellent visual genetics.
Keep in mind that just a few months ago I was weighing a relatively lean 185, becasue I ran a marathon. If I don't train and continue to eat like shit...I look like total shit.
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Keep in mind that just a few months ago I was weighing a relatively lean 185, becasue I ran a marathon. If I don't train and continue to eat like shit...I look like total shit.
Ok, well that makes me feel a little better then :)
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Here is somthing for you to beat-off to anyway...
Looking great, MindSpin! Most middle aged men could never dream of looking like that! :o
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What was your marathon time? ???
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yemeni when you were younger did you have thoughts of becoming a pro?
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yemeni when you were younger did you have thoughts of becoming a pro?
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Not once. You have to remember that I came up in an enviroment sorrounded by the top pros and amatures of the 90's. Even from the getgo I knew there was no way in hell that I could ever reach their level. I also got to see the ugly side of the sport and wanted no part in it. Had I won the last show I did (1996 NPC LA), I would have tried for the CA and regardless of my placing I would have stoped. As it was I got smoked at the LA and chose to move on. After that show, I did not set foot inside a gym for three years :o I've been training of and on since...
as for my marathon time 3:58:03...a personal best even though it was pouring rain. The average time for men was 4:32:08.
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Looking great, MindSpin! Most middle aged men could never dream of looking like that! :o
I don't think 33 is quite middle age.
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Your arms look somewhat short for your height (5'10 and 15/16).
Are you any relation to Bob Paris?
I'm 5'11" and I actually have long arms. What does 15/16 mean?
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damn I hate you mindspin. Poor genetic ......... >:(
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Mindspin and Layne both look good. They both have a good ability to gain muscle size and get shredded. Mindspin beats Layne for genetic shape and structure, but Layne has him in conditioning from what I can see. Also, Layne's most muscular pose is out of sight. Mindspin has better legs but I do wonder what Layne's leg measurements are. I think the problem with Layne's legs has more to do with shape and not size. If he had the sweep that Mindspin has they would look bigger. Layne's legs are kind of square looking.
Layne looks great but him vs mindspin isn't even comparable.
put Mindspin in contest shape and he own Layne really bad
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Layne looks great but him vs mindspin isn't even comparable.
put Mindspin in contest shape and he own Layne really bad
Keep in mind that Layne is "natural" (more natural than a full blown juicer anyway) and Mindspring isn't those contest pics. Not a fair judgement. But I will say I still think Mindspring could have taken him if he stayed natural, just better genetics. I will also give props to Layne, the guy really appears to bust his ass. It's a shame he doesn't have better genetics but he's making the best of what he's got.
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Layne is 100 percent natural.
He stays at around 6 percent bodyfat in the offseason.
I still think he is overreated
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Layne is 100 percent natural.
He stays at around 6 percent bodyfat in the offseason.
I still think he is overreated
Great post! Good to see naturals sticking up for each other!
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That does it, I'm natural too. Seems like the cool thing to do.
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I don't think 33 is quite middle age.
Whatever age MindSpin tells you he is, you must add 7 years to get the correct age ;D
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That does it, I'm natural too. Seems like the cool thing to do.
LOL. That was teh funny. Spin is a freak. with that shape he didnt need the drugs back then. And he looks 10% in the pic. Its mostly water hiding the rest.
Props to ya Spin, Good luck on the hike!!
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LOL. That was teh funny. Spin is a freak. with that shape he didnt need the drugs back then. And he looks 10% in the pic. Its mostly water hiding the rest.
Props to ya Spin, Good luck on the hike!!
Where is he going hiking? ???
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Grand Canyon...tip to tip. Did Yosemite last year and climbed to the top of Halfdome (the little dots in the background are people).
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Thats crazy. They look like ants!! :o
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Layne is 100 percent natural.
He stays at around 6 percent bodyfat in the offseason.
I still think he is overreated
6%?
More like 10%, which is still extremely lean.
A lot of BB pros compete at around 4-5 % BF.
Maybe you meant that he was @ around 9 %. Since 2-3% is generally the absolute minumum BF (some people call it zero percent bodyfat for some reason), and 3+6 = 9%.
YIP
Zack
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Grand Canyon...tip to tip. Did Yosemite last year and climbed to the top of Halfdome (the little dots in the background are people).
That looks brutal! Stay safe!
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The brutal part was that final climb. There is no safety gear. Just you, a cliff and a rope. All upper body strength for a solid 45 minutes. If you let go...you're dead. But, all worth it when you get the the top. The view is indescribable!!!
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The brutal part was that final climb. There is no safety gear. Just you, a cliff and a rope. All upper body strength for a solid 45 minutes. If you let go...you're dead. But, all worth it when you get the the top. The view is indescribable!!!
Why no safety gear? That doesn't sound like a good idea :-\
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Why no safety gear? That doesn't sound like a good idea :-\
Well, it's a brutal day-long hike to quarter-dome, where the pic above was taken. Everyone I went with was looking forward to the climax of the hike, which is the very top of half-dome. However, when we got there, we realized the poles that hold up the steel cables that allow for a relatively safe trek up the final stretch, where down! They get taken down during the wet season to discourage climbers from going up while it's slippery. However, as you can see from the pic it was a dry/sunny day. So, I decided to do it anyway...it's why I was there. It was physically grueling, specially after hiking all day. But the real hard part was overcoming the fear of being up so high with nothing to hold on to except a steel cable. It was even worse coming down.
Here is a view from the top...
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The brutal part was that final climb. There is no safety gear. Just you, a cliff and a rope. All upper body strength for a solid 45 minutes. If you let go...you're dead. But, all worth it when you get the the top. The view is indescribable!!!
you say you want to live as long as possible for your daughters yet you do this
that sounds more dangerous and stupid (no offense) than anything bodybuilders do
all for a fricken view :o
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You asked us to critique his physiquel, not his SAT score. He is in excellent shape and may be a bright lad. I come from a time when natural meant tuna and chicken breasts, and the only supplement around was milk'n egg powder. In my books, none of these lads are truly natural. Supplements,creatine, nitrox, thermos, etc is not a form of chemical enhancement? Clean or not, the boy needs some legs. Period. Amen.
why bother even asking for comments if your just going to go of your head when someone has a diffrent opinion and is game enough to say that. old school gav his props he just pointed out an obvious floor get over it.
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I knew this question was coming. You guys are too predictable ::) The pic from above shows the 180 degree angle of Halfdome. That's not where I climbed. Only an experienced rock climber with safety gear would be able to do that. Even then, someone seems to die every year attempting it. The side I climbed on, could be hiked if the poles are up. It's at about a 45 degree angle. Without the poles, you are able to stand on the clif and pull yourself up with the cables. So, if you do let go, you will fall. However, I knew my condition at the time was superb and I had no doubt I would make it...I did. Here are some pics so you can get a better idea of what I am talking baout. Imagine the poles holding up the cables not bein there.
BTW, I would not go sky diving, bungi jumping or anything else of the sort that takes my life out of my hands and puts it in danger.
(http://www.yosemitevacation.com/images/hdcab2.jpg)
(http://www.yosemitevacation.com/images/hdcable2.jpg)
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That seems like a great trip. Who's in?
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awesome pics Mindspin, looks like you had a great time !
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It was awesome. I'm looking forward to doing the Grand Canyon later this year. If anyone wants to do Yosemite, let me know. We can have the whole GetBig wack-pack out there for a race to the top. Ha ha ha! Now that would be funny :)
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I knew this question was coming. You guys are too predictable ::) The pic from above shows the 180 degree angle of Halfdome. That's not where I climbed. Only an experienced rock climber with safety gear would be able to do that. Even then, someone seems to die every year attempting it. The side I climbed on, could be hiked if the poles are up. It's at about a 45 degree angle. Without the poles, you are able to stand on the clif and pull yourself up with the cables. So, if you do let go, you will fall. However, I knew my condition at the time was superb and I had no doubt I would make it...I did. Here are some pics so you can get a better idea of what I am talking baout. Imagine the poles holding up the cables not bein there.
BTW, I would not go sky diving, bungi jumping or anything else of the sort that takes my life out of my hands and puts it in danger.
(http://www.yosemitevacation.com/images/hdcab2.jpg)
(http://www.yosemitevacation.com/images/hdcable2.jpg)
Would you slide down quickly if you fell? Could you grab onto something?
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Would you slide down quickly if you fell? Could you grab onto something?
Grab on to the other persons leg.
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Grab on to the other persons leg.
Hahahahahahaha.....event ually everyone on the climb will fall down and die because of you ;D
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It was awesome. I'm looking forward to doing the Grand Canyon later this year. If anyone wants to do Yosemite, let me know. We can have the whole GetBig wack-pack out there for a race to the top. Ha ha ha! Now that would be funny :)
I would own you all at racing and everything else. ;D
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Layne is 100 percent natural.
He stays at around 6 percent bodyfat in the offseason.
I still think he is overreated
No shit. There are guys larger than Layne in every gym in the US. I really don't see what all the fuss is about... Honestly, the guy's got the worst structure for bodybuilding I've ever seen. (If Mike Katz were thrown into Auchwitz and starved for 5 years, he might look something like Layne.) He wouldn't place in the "Mr. Ethiopia" contest, let alone any respectable NPC show...
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No shit. There are guys larger than Layne in every gym in the US. I really don't see what all the fuss is about... Honestly, the guy's got the worst structure for bodybuilding I've ever seen. (If Mike Katz were thrown into Auchwitz and starved for 5 years, he might look something like Layne.) He wouldn't place in the "Mr. Ethiopia" contest, let alone any respectable NPC show...
Post your pics ::) Layne makes you look like Ross Perot ::)
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Post your pics ::) Layne makes you look like Ross Perot ::)
Ross Perot was awesome! He shoulda been president >:(
Anywho, back to the thread. Mindspins turn to endurance events is interesting. Most B/builders get so attached to their mass that it becomes their Identity of themselves. If they look good that day, theyre the King......if they look bad, theyre angry. Thats a rough way to live. As you get older most guys learn to put into perspective.
Kal Kczlak (sic) is doing long distance bike racing in california.... and looks as happy as ever, no doubt muh healthiar too.
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Ross Perot was awesome! He shoulda been president >:(
Anywho, back to the thread. Mindspins turn to endurance events is interesting. Most B/builders get so attached to their mass that it becomes their Identity of themselves. If they look good that day, theyre the King......if they look bad, theyre angry. Thats a rough way to live. As you get older most guys learn to put into perspective.
Kal Kczlak (sic) is doing long distance bike racing in california.... and looks as happy as ever, no doubt muh healthiar too.
Yeah, it reminds me of the time Tom Prince said, "What's the point of being alive if you can't be huge?" He knows now how stupid that mindset is. Good to see Kzkalak staying active and healthy!
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Yeah, it reminds me of the time Tom Prince said, "What's the point of being alive if you can't be huge?" He knows now how stupid that mindset is. Good to see Kzkalak staying active and healthy!
Wow Prince said that? Thats the definition of Irony! :-[
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Wow Prince said that? Thats the definition of Irony! :-[
He said it on Mayhem a few years back and you could tell he was at least half-serious about it :-\
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Even at my biggest (230 at under 10%BF) I knew not to let that be the definition of who I am. I was juiced, training/eating/sleeping bodybuilding. I knew sustaining that for a lifetime would not fulfill me. After my last show, I did not set foot inside a gym for years. Needless to say I shrunk...big time. People who saw me thought I was sick and felt "bad". However, I walked around with as much confidence as ever. I remember a friend pulling me aside once and asking me "how do you do it? You were huge and now you're not yet it does not seem to faze you". I had simply moved on to a new goal and was working just as hard toward achieving it. I drew self esteem from constant self improvement....
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Grab on to the other persons leg.
Are you saying that Lusius would have no problem grabbing another guys' leg?
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Would you slide down quickly if you fell? Could you grab onto something?
There is nothing to grap onto. Half way up there is a ledge about 10" deep where you can stand with your back to the cliff. I did that and nearly froze because you are looking straight down. It was freaking scary! And yes, if someone falls, they'll probably take down everyone behind them. If the poles are up, it's a lot easier. You can use more leg power and there is more to hold on to...
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Even at my biggest (230 at under 10%BF) I knew not to let that be the definition of who I am. I was juiced, training/eating/sleeping bodybuilding. I knew sustaining that for a lifetime would not fulfill me. After my last show, I did not set foot inside a gym for years. Needless to say I shrunk...big time. People who saw me thought I was sick and felt "bad". However, I walked around with as much confidence as ever. I remember a friend pulling me aside once and asking me "how do you do it? You were huge and now you're not yet it does not seem to faze you". I had simply moved on to a new goal and was working just as hard toward achieving it. I drew self esteem from constant self improvement....
Great post! Maybe you should provide counseling for Tom Prince ;D
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Are you saying that Lusius would have no problem grabbing another guys' leg?
perhaps the "third" leg...ha ha ha!
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Even at my biggest (230 at under 10%BF) I knew not to let that be the definition of who I am. I was juiced, training/eating/sleeping bodybuilding. I knew sustaining that for a lifetime would not fulfill me. After my last show, I did not set foot inside a gym for years. Needless to say I shrunk...big time. People who saw me thought I was sick and felt "bad". However, I walked around with as much confidence as ever. I remember a friend pulling me aside once and asking me "how do you do it? You were huge and now you're not yet it does not seem to faze you". I had simply moved on to a new goal and was working just as hard toward achieving it. I drew self esteem from constant self improvement....
Props to you Mindspin, you impressed me with that post.
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Are you saying that Lusius would have no problem grabbing another guys' leg?
It should be "another guy's leg" ;D Would you let yourself fall down or would you grab someone else? Let's face it, we'd all take the rest down with us ;D
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perhaps the "third" leg...ha ha ha!
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perhaps the "third" leg...ha ha ha!
Foxy would beat everyone to the top with his third leg. The "tripod trot" would be incredible. ;D
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What does that show? I said that I didn't do it myself ::)
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What does that show? I said that I didn't do it myself ::)
240 is rambling again.
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240 is rambling again.
I think I put an idea into 240's head that his wife is not going to like ;D
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no offence bro, but your slipping.
Are you here 24 hours a day?
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Yeah come on man puttin a brother of faith at stake here? Tsk Tsk Tsk
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240 should be ashamed of himself :-\
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Ha ha ha! Oh brother...let's just get some basic facts straight:
1. I don't know Norton...have never interacted with him...never even seen him post here. So, I have nothing against the guy on a persona level.
2. I didn't say he looked like shit. In fact, if anyone cares to read my 1st post on this thread, you'll see that I said he looks better than ever, but that his legs still suck.
3. I still think he is over hyped and I'm not the slightest bit impressed with his physique. Although he has put on some size, and he is able to get in great condition, he has a ugly hideous look...zero aesthetics, no legs, no back thickness and a weird oversized rib-cage.
4. I suspect he is not clean, not because he is "huge" or because he is "shredded". There are lots of naturals out there who are much bigger and just as diced. He, however, has that "androgen" look that comes only from gear. It's hard to describe, but you know it when you see it. Meso, for example, has more muscle and is just as lean as Norton, but he does not have the "androgen" look. I do believe Meso is clean...and looks waaaaaay better.
5. Someone made a comment that Norton "dwarfs" me or that he looks way better. You know what? The guy is in his prime and has been consistently competing/training for the last few years. I, on the other hand, have been done with this for over ten years, during which time I have trained sporadically, eaten like shit, been totally clean and intentionally tried to lose muscle to compete in endurance type of events. I would hope Norton looks better, but he doesn’t! I still DAWRF his ass today. Ha ha! Life is good ;D
Mindspin, I don't know this guy either, but I totally agree with you. He seems like a good guy who trains hard, but he does not stand out in bodybuilding. He is not very aesthetically pleasing as you pointed out. He is not someone who has good genetics and then can build from there(like Meso), he is someone who is bodybuilding despite his genetics, which is fine. I do not think he looks much better then me, and I AM a basketball player, and I eat whatever I want as well. He seems to be a good ambassador for the sport, which is great, but he is not going to be a great bodybuilder. Ok, I am done now ;D
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Mindspin, I don't know this guy either, but I totally agree with you. He seems like a good guy who trains hard, but he does not stand out in bodybuilding. He is not very aesthetically pleasing as you pointed out. He is not someone who has good genetics and then can build from there(like Meso), he is someone who is bodybuilding despite his genetics, which is fine. I do not think he looks much better then me, and I AM a basketball player, and I eat whatever I want as well. He seems to be a good ambassador for the sport, which is great, but he is not going to be a great bodybuilder. Ok, I am done now ;D
Good Post. :)
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Good Post. :)
Good reply ;D
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Good reply ;D
Good Reply and thankful of good post, post. :D
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Mindspin, I don't know this guy either, but I totally agree with you. He seems like a good guy who trains hard, but he does not stand out in bodybuilding. He is not very aesthetically pleasing as you pointed out. He is not someone who has good genetics and then can build from there(like Meso), he is someone who is bodybuilding despite his genetics, which is fine. I do not think he looks much better then me, and I AM a basketball player, and I eat whatever I want as well. He seems to be a good ambassador for the sport, which is great, but he is not going to be a great bodybuilder. Ok, I am done now ;D
Post your pic ::)
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Post your pic ::)
Check the Avatar
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Check the Avatar
Its a little guy waving Hi. :D
May need to zoom in.
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He looks like a monkey. ;D