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SF 49ers' OG apparently recently benched 635:
"On top of that is a solid stable of running backs and a formidable offensive line led by new acquisition Larry Allen. Allen awed his teammates in the weight room recently by bench pressing a bar-bending 635 pounds."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/17/SPG2EJFNBG1.DTL
Not bad for a fat guy. :) He has always been one of the strongest men in the NFL.
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SF 49ers' OG apparently recently benched 635:
"On top of that is a solid stable of running backs and a formidable offensive line led by new acquisition Larry Allen. Allen awed his teammates in the weight room recently by bench pressing a bar-bending 635 pounds."
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2006/06/17/SPG2EJFNBG1.DTL
Not bad for a fat guy. :) He has always been one of the strongest men in the NFL.
Fake plates ::)
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49ers they still have a team left ;D
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I'm pretty sure he has put up 700 before.
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You're thinking of jazzmaster Duke Ellison. Common mistake.
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No, 240. You're thinking of former Washington Bullet, Pervis Ellison.
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He did 700 when he was here in dallas. He also did a squat of 900 plus years ago when he in his prime.
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he is widely known as the strongest man in the NFL. He did 225 for 43 in Hawaii during the pro bowl week.(says he could have done more, though)
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he is widely known as the strongest man in the NFL. He did 225 for 43 in Hawaii during the pro bowl week.(says he could have done more, though)
I saw a video of his "700 lb bench," and he had like 5 guys holding the bar. Someone with a 700 bench should be able to do a lot more than 40 reps with 225. Even a 500 lb bencher could probably come close to that.
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I saw a video of his "700 lb bench," and he had like 5 guys holding the bar. Someone with a 700 bench should be able to do a lot more than 40 reps with 225. Even a 500 lb bencher could probably come close to that.
agreed. anyone who is very strong and does pushups to go along with their bench training should be able to rep with 225 for 100 or so. Case in point, my max is probably 345 or so. I can easily do 100 pushups, and rep with 225 for 22 the last time I tried. It seems if someone can max at 600, they should be able to rep out 225 for 80 at least. I never see it happen though.
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I saw a video of his "700 lb bench," and he had like 5 guys holding the bar. Someone with a 700 bench should be able to do a lot more than 40 reps with 225. Even a 500 lb bencher could probably come close to that.
i agree with you here, my max is 385 and the last time i did a rep with 225 set i got 22 reps so someone who supposedly benches 700 should be able to do at least 80 if not more, Ronnie supposedly did 78 with 225 and he only maxes at around 550.
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Not necessarily. I don't think 1RM and muscle endurance are synonymous. I don't lift heavy and don't know what my 1RM max is, but I doubt it's 385. I never go heavier than 3 plates. I do most of my working sets with 225, anywhere from 20 to 30 rep sets every week. That means I can press 225 more than many guys who would leave me in the dust with their 1RM.
I'd like to know what powerlifters generally do with 225.
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slap another 2 plates on it. ;D
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slap another 2 plates on it. ;D
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powerlifters warm up with 225 :-\ Christ didnt Mendleson do 405 for a cool 20 no prob
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powerlifters warm up with 225 :-\ Christ didnt Mendleson do 405 for a cool 20 no prob
most people warm up with 225.
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most people warm up with 225.
"Most people?" What world do you live in?
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most people warm up with 225.
Haha ok Bobby ::)
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powerlifters warm up with 225 :-\ Christ didnt Mendleson do 405 for a cool 20 no prob
yeah but Mendelson is the strongest bencher in the world right now and probably of all time.
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I would not make racial jokes near Larry Allen.
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yeah but Mendelson is the strongest bencher in the world right now and probably of all time.
Ya that is a good point. Kinda like comparing average basketball stats with Micheal Jordan's.
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"Most people?" What world do you live in?
You must work out at Bally's ::)
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Haha ok Bobby ::)
It seems like most people do a few reps with 135, then proceed to 225 for warming up before going heavy. No reason to bite my head off.
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You must work out at Bally's ::)
I have a lifetime membership at Bally's but I choose a smaller gym(mainly cuz my high school friend owns it).
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I have a lifetime membership at Bally's but I choose a smaller gym(mainly cuz my high school friend owns it).
I'm glad to see another honest person on the boards ;D
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I'm glad to see another honest person on the boards ;D
nothing wrong with Bally's, 9 dollars a month for life(after the first three years anyway) is tough to beat. I just prefer my friends gym for now.
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635 is an awesome bench................... .if you're a powerlifter but it's absolutly useless in football!!
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635 is an awesome bench................... .if you're a powerlifter but it's absolutly useless in football!!
not as important as leverage for sure, but those O linemen are pushing off some pretty strong dudes, coming at them with a lot of momentum. I think it helps them to be able to push around alot of weight(bench),just my two cents.
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not as important as leverage for sure, but those O linemen are pushing off some pretty strong dudes, coming at them with a lot of momentum. I think it helps them to be able to push around alot of weight(bench),just my two cents.
225 bench test is basically a test of muscular endurance and explosive power that one if the reasons why they have that test instead of a 1RM, personally I think they should incorporate the same test for in the squat.
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225 bench test is basically a test of muscular endurance and explosive power that one if the reasons why they have that test instead of a 1RM, personally I think they should incorporate the same test for in the squat.
no one at the combine ever impresses me with their 225 reps. I can do more than alot of them and I obviously have nowhere near their functional strength.
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no one at the combine ever impresses me with their 225 reps. I can do more than alot of them and I obviously have nowhere near their functional strength.
Beside's me you're I think only one who's mentioned funtional strength!
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Beside's me you're I think only one who's mentioned funtional strength!
I would imagine many people like to see how much they can lift just to regurgitate it on the boards and to tell their friends. Personally, I find that as long as I don't get bulky it really helps with my MA(and my self image, I admit). Obviously fb players need to be strong to be competetive. But weight room strength doesn't always equal functional strength, but it probably helps.
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reggie bush claims a 450 bench and he only did 225 for 24 reps
wouldn't somebody that can do 450 be able to do more?
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reggie bush claims a 450 bench and he only did 225 for 24 reps
wouldn't somebody that can do 450 be able to do more?
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No not necessarly....there is a big difference between "muscular strength" and "muscular endurance".
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No not necessarly....there is a big difference between "muscular strength" and "muscular endurance".
your an expert on athletes ::)
wouldn't an all world athlete like Bush have the muscular endurance to get more with 225?
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your an expert on athletes ::)
wouldn't an all world athlete like Bush have the muscular endurance to get more with 225?
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Depends on the position the player plays.....and yes smartass...thats what I do for a living....train athletes, amoung others but mostly athletes!!
Let me know if you need help losing that 40!!
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Depends on the position the player plays.....and yes smartass...thats what I do for a living....train athletes, amoung others but mostly athletes!!
Let me know if you need help losing that 40!!
he a running back which means he would need great endurance
I can cut the 40 myself just fine 8)
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he a running back which means he would need great endurance
I can cut the 40 myself just fine 8)
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He would actually need running endurance,and explosion off the line, which is a little different. However, if Houston really only gives him the 15 touches they are talking about giving him, who knows how much he'll need at all.
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He would actually running endurance,and explosion off the line, which is a little different. However, if Houston really only gives him the 15 touches they are talking about giving him, who knows how much he'll need at all.
Off topic but...
LMAO at the Texans only giving Bush 15 TOUCHES a game...? He should get at LEAST that many runs and damn near that many passes
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Off topic but...
LMAO at the Texans only giving Bush 15 TOUCHES a game...? He should get at LEAST that many runs and damn near that many passes
agreed. He is a total freak of nature. quickness, strength, speed, and elusiveness. I do get the impression that The Texans took him mainly to put asses in the seats, however. But, If he does pan out as a player, he is going to be one the great ones, for sure.
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What the hell are you guys talking about????
Reggie Bush was drafted #2 by the Saints.
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What the hell are you guys talking about????
Reggie Bush was drafted #2 by the Saints.
holy shit you are right, totally forget about that. It's Monday, I plead stupidity ???
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Relating to Bush playing for the Saints, I just read that Deuce Mccallister became a reserve police officer over here in Pontiac, Michigan. Maybe he is loooking for a backup job now that Bush is going to steal his position?
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Relating to Bush playing for the Saints, I just read that Deuce Mccallister became a reserve police officer over here in Pontiac, Michigan. Maybe he is loooking for a backup job now that Bush is going to steal his position?
The Saints have to trade him ASAP before he rotts on the bench and loses value...Deuce playing backup to Kevin Jones in Detroit? He would start IMO.
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The Saints have to trade him ASAP before he rotts on the bench and loses value...Deuce playing backup to Kevin Jones in Detroit? He would start IMO.
never heard about Deuce signing with the lions. He just joined the reserve police(pontiac) force cuz his cousin is an officer.
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Dear Friends
Kind regards
I would much prefer to fight a guy who benches 600lbs then a guy who can do 225 for 40+ reps.
The 1st guy would throw to power punches and have nothing left.
The 2nd guy would keep pounding your face with 225lbs power all day
Yours thankfully
John
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Dear Friends
Kind regards
I would much prefer to fight a guy who benches 600lbs then a guy who can do 225 for 40+ reps.
The 1st guy would throw to power punches and have nothing left.
The 2nd guy would keep pounding your face with 225lbs power all day
Yours thankfully
John
agreed ;D
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reggie bush couldnt squat or deadlift 450, let alone bench. what the players do is something for like 3 or 6 times and then the strength coaches grossly overexagerate what they could do for a max.
like if you can do 295 for 3, then the coaches would say you can do 365. surrreee.
i doubt larry allen could bench 635. how many pro bbers and pwlers, who do nothing but lift can do that raw, and some old football player (a great one, who will be a 1st ballot hall of famer) can do that? doubt it.
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Dear Friends
Kind regards
I would much prefer to fight a guy who benches 600lbs then a guy who can do 225 for 40+ reps.
The 1st guy would throw to power punches and have nothing left.
The 2nd guy would keep pounding your face with 225lbs power all day
Yours thankfully
John
yeah but all it takes is that one punch from the 600lb. bencher to literally kill you if placed correctly, i had a friend who benched 640 in a meet who used to beat on people for fun and trust me it wasn't pretty.
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i had a friend who benched 640 in a meet who used to beat on people for fun and trust me it wasn't pretty.
haha so it isn't a gimmick, you really hang with guys that brutalize tiny tits?
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yeah but all it takes is that one punch from the 600lb. bencher to literally kill you if placed correctly, i had a friend who benched 640 in a meet who used to beat on people for fun and trust me it wasn't pretty.
Benching 640 doesn't make someone a tough fighter ::)
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reggie bush couldnt squat or deadlift 450, let alone bench. what the players do is something for like 3 or 6 times and then the strength coaches grossly overexagerate what they could do for a max.
like if you can do 295 for 3, then the coaches would say you can do 365. surrreee.
i doubt larry allen could bench 635. how many pro bbers and pwlers, who do nothing but lift can do that raw, and some old football player (a great one, who will be a 1st ballot hall of famer) can do that? doubt it.
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whatever, dude. you think people who win the genetic lottery feel compelled to prove themselves as powerlifters? Reggie Bush can't deadlift 450 . . . is this part of your comedy routine or something?
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yeah but all it takes is that one punch from the 600lb. bencher to literally kill you if placed correctly, i had a friend who benched 640 in a meet who used to beat on people for fun and trust me it wasn't pretty.
Chuck Liddell probably can't bench 250, but I am sure he hits harder than your juiced up buddy. Much harder actually.
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Dear Friends
Kind regards
Strength can definately help with punching power.
But only if coupled with technique and speed.
Yours thankfully
John
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yeah but all it takes is that one punch from the 600lb. bencher to literally kill you if placed correctly, i had a friend who benched 640 in a meet who used to beat on people for fun and trust me it wasn't pretty.
why would you befriend someone who beats up people for fun? You must be a tool if you can't find any normal people to hang with.
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why would you befriend someone who beats up people for fun? You must be a tool if you can't find any normal people to hang with.
I guess you haven't seen the squad :)
take a trip down to the y board, if you dare....
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I guess you haven't seen the squad :)
take a trip down to the y board, if you dare....
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No thanks, Sarcasm is a tool.
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hahahaha, you "guys" are so easy.
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hahahaha, you "guys" are so easy.
If I beat up people for fun, can I be your friend, Sarcasm?
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Reggie Bush cant push 450lbs, he's max out at 405.
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Reggie Bush cant push 450lbs, he's max out at 405.
I never trained with him, its not much of a stretch though. Didn't Jerry Rice put up over 400?
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If I beat up people for fun, can I be your friend, Sarcasm?
you can't beat anyone up you only weigh 175lbs.
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you can't beat anyone up you only weigh 175lbs.
178 dickhead, and I beg to differ.
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178 dickhead, and I beg to differ.
3 lbs., huge difference. ::)
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3 lbs., huge difference. ::)
If I got my bf up to 10% and weighed over 200 and looked like a fatass would that make me tough?
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If I got my bf up to 10% and weighed over 200 and looked like a fatass would that make me tough?
10 percent bodyfat is a "fatass"?
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Big bench....
actually...
enormous bench...
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10 percent bodyfat is a "fatass"?
yes, we are not camels dude. We have no reason to carry extra fat. Do you see a famine coming? I sure as hell don't. I know some guys on here idolize these fatfuck pros who let themselves go every year just to gain a few pounds of muscle. I just think they are lazy and undisciplined. Whats the point of looking good two weeks a year. I stay lean year round. I wouldn't even take my shirt off if my bf crept up to the 6-7%range. I wouldn't want people to think I was a lazy piece of undisciplined shit. Just my opinion.
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yes, we are not camels dude. We have no reason to carry extra fat. Do you see a famine coming? I sure as hell don't. I know some guys on here idolize these fatfuck pros who let themselves go every year just to gain a few pounds of muscle. I just think they are lazy and undisciplined. Whats the point of looking good two weeks a year. I stay lean year round. I wouldn't even take my shirt off if my bf crept up to the 6-7%range. I wouldn't want people to think I was a lazy piece of undisciplined shit. Just my opinion.
you've got some serious issues with big dudes, my guess is that either you had a girlfriend who you thought was THE ONE who fucked a big bodybuilder or you constantly got beat up in high school by big dudes, either way you need to let it go and heal your wounds.
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you've got some serious issues with big dudes, my guess is that either you had a girlfriend who you thought was THE ONE who fucked a big bodybuilder or you constantly got beat up in high school by big dudes, either way you need to let it go and heal your wounds.
Funny thing is I appear big. Obviously I wouldn't to people on this site or bbers, but the average person thinks I spend all my time in the gym or something. I just happen to be extremely ripped and strong. As far as getting beat up in high school, not too many people fuck with a kid who lives and breathes martial arts, I was and still am a bad guy. And although I respect a lot of people on this board who have been cool to me, lets face it: Do you really think ANY girl would choose a Meatheads body over a lean, muscular dude? Keep looking at People magazine, maybe Ronnie or Jay will be voted most beautiful one day. Damn, you are stupid.
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Funny thing is I appear big. Obviously I wouldn't to people on this site or bbers, but the average person thinks I spend all my time in the gym or something. I just happen to be extremely ripped and strong. As far as getting beat up in high school, not too many people f**k with a kid who lives and breathes martial arts, I was and still am a bad f**cker. And although I respect a lot of people on this board who have been cool to me, lets face it: Do you really think ANY girl would choose a Meatheads body over a lean, muscular dude? Keep looking at People magazine, maybe Ronnie or Jay will be voted most beautiful one day. Damn, you are stupid.
ok, "bad f**cker", don't beat me up, ok?
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ok, "bad f**cker", don't beat me up, ok?
I wouldn't ever want to beat you up, you are fun to "fight" with. If we ever fought for real, you wouldn't be able to type anymore. :-[
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I wouldn't ever want to beat you up, you are fun to "fight" with. If we ever fought for real, you wouldn't be able to type anymore. :-[
damn man you sound so scary. :o
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damn man you sound so scary. :o
not scary, just a great fighter. You have something you are good at, don't you. And don't say grammar, I'll piss myself.
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not scary, just a great fighter. You have something you are good at, don't you. And don't say grammar, I'll piss myself.
will you be my bodyguard? ::)
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no, I got a job. Out of curiosity, what is your bf%? just want to gauge your level of gluttony.
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no, I got a job. Out of curiosity, what is your bf%? just want to gauge your level of gluttony.
48%.
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48%.
seriously, I have read on a number of occasions that you have a weight problem. That must suck, not only being a pussy, but a fat pussy to boot. :-[
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seriously, I have read on a number of occasions that you have a weight problem. That must suck, not only being a pussy, but a fat pussy to boot. :-[
hahahaha, i know, i suck, but hey, at least i'm not 178 at 5'11".
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hahahaha, i know, i suck, but hey, at least i'm not 178 at 5'11".
I am only 5'10 actually. How about some of your stats, chubby?
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come on Sarcasm, I just want to know your height, weight, and bf. You call me puny like 3 times a day, why so yellow?
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whatever, dude. you think people who win the genetic lottery feel compelled to prove themselves as powerlifters? Reggie Bush can't deadlift 450 . . . is this part of your comedy routine or something?
you thinking bush can deadlift 450, is that part of your comedy routine. i'd be suprised if he could. just bc he is a great athlete, fast, quick, and good at football doestn mean he is strong; and vice versa.
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yes, we are not camels dude. We have no reason to carry extra fat. Do you see a famine coming? I sure as hell don't. I know some guys on here idolize these fatfuck pros who let themselves go every year just to gain a few pounds of muscle. I just think they are lazy and undisciplined. Whats the point of looking good two weeks a year. I stay lean year round. I wouldn't even take my shirt off if my bf crept up to the 6-7%range. I wouldn't want people to think I was a lazy piece of undisciplined shit. Just my opinion.
This statement really makes me question your "opinion"
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way to kill a good thread you skinny-fat fucks >:(
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you thinking bush can deadlift 450, is that part of your comedy routine. i'd be suprised if he could. just bc he is a great athlete, fast, quick, and good at football doestn mean he is strong; and vice versa.
originality isn't your strong suit, is it? and let me guess, you've never played any kind of organized sport, have you?
A 200 lb. athlete with half bush's explosiveness could deadlift 450 easy w/o ever having trained that lift specifically. Do yourself a favor: go in and watch some good (forget top) college football players train before you come around here spouting your nonsense.
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way to kill a good thread you skinny-fat fucks >:(
Hahahahahaha....! ;D
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originality isn't your strong suit, is it? and let me guess, you've never played any kind of organized sport, have you?
A 200 lb. athlete with half bush's explosiveness could deadlift 450 easy w/o ever having trained that lift specifically. Do yourself a favor: go in and watch some good (forget top) college football players train before you come around here spouting your nonsense.
Football players exaggerate their lifts all the time. Some of them are incredibly strong, but they are in a minority. The combine record on the bench press is around 40 reps, which is roughtly equivalent to a low 500's max bench. It isn't even that impressive when you consider that the record holder weighs over 300 lb, and that they don't even have to do full reps.
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This statement really makes me question your "opinion"
I understand why it would. While it is my opinion, and I believe it to be true, I was just digging in at Sarcasm cuz everyone on here knows he's fat. Didn't want to offend anyone else.
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I understand why it would. While it is my opinion, and I believe it to be true, I was just diging in at Sarcasm cuz everyone on here knows he's fat. Didn't want to offend anyone else.
you did not offend me bro. but a 10% bodyfat is pretty lean, at that % I have visible abs, good vascularity.and the attention from girls is of course a fantastic bonus ;)
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you did not offend me bro. but a 10% bodyfat is pretty lean, at that % I have visible abs, good vascularity.and the attention from girls is of course a fantastic bonus ;)
My metabolism is extremely high, My doc always tells me to eat more and put on fat, but I am happy with my appearance. Anyway, I was just trying to get under Sarcasms skin. You can tell he is one of those guys that has a hard time getting lean. Didn't mean to come off as a dick. Everyones built different and has their own idea of what "looks" good.
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Football players exaggerate their lifts all the time. Some of them are incredibly strong, but they are in a minority. The combine record on the bench press is around 40 reps, which is roughtly equivalent to a low 500's max bench. It isn't even that impressive when you consider that the record holder weighs over 300 lb, and that they don't even have to do full reps.
Mike Kudla defensive lineman from ohio State (who my steelers were smart enough to sign as a free agent ;D) just tied the record at the combine with 45 reps
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Sarcasm, oh my God Bro did you just back away from a fight? Haha, come one Fatass fight back,LOL!!! You could be 48% and I still bet I got you beat. I'm the one and only true Fatass on this board so dont think about taking my title!!!!
Ohh for the record Kudla is a BADASS!!!!!
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Sarcasm, oh my God Bro did you just back away from a fight? Haha, come one Fatass fight back,LOL!!! You could be 48% and I still bet I got you beat. I'm the one and only true Fatass on this board so dont think about taking my title!!!!
Ohh for the record Kudla is a BADASS!!!!!
Kudla is a BADASS and a neanderthal. So, BBWolfe, what do you think of our board luminaries' claims that someone with Bush's explosiveness (he weighs 210 ripped) cannot DL 450?
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I dont know much about Reggie Bush, but if he is as explosive as it sounds he should be able to do that and more I would hope.
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Sarcasm, oh my God Bro did you just back away from a fight? Haha, come one Fatass fight back,LOL!!! You could be 48% and I still bet I got you beat. I'm the one and only true Fatass on this board so dont think about taking my title!!!!
Ohh for the record Kudla is a BADASS!!!!!
after admiting that he is 5'11" 232 pounds and over 15%bf, what kind of argument could he possibly win?
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Bobby, i was just giving him a hard time. He gave me so much shit when I came her casue I truly am a fatass. He needed to make sure I knew it, so I just think it is funny that some one is giving him hell for being fat. Please dont tell me I'm fat, I know it and readily admit it :) Keep up the good work and go eat something!! Just messing HAHA!!!! Wolfy!!!!
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I dont know much about Reggie Bush, but if he is as explosive as it sounds he should be able to do that and more I would hope.
thank you, hopefully the word of an 800 lb. bencher counts for something around here.
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Bobby, i was just giving him a hard time. He gave me so much shit when I came her casue I truly am a fatass. He needed to make sure I knew it, so I just think it is funny that some one is giving him hell for being fat. Please dont tell me I'm fat, I know it and readily admit it :) Keep up the good work and go eat something!! Just messing HAHA!!!! Wolfy!!!!
Funny thing is, I had no idea about his "weight" problem, I took a guess and he brokedown and was like "yeah, I admit, I am 15% bf, 232, etc." He seems like a good guy though, as do you. good luck bro.
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Not in a benchshirt it dont, I get more respect for my contest raw 600 around here.
Wolfy!!!
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Not in a benchshirt it dont, I get more respect for my contest raw 600 around here.
Wolfy!!!
i think we're coming to terms w gear around here. ;D
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Funny thing is, I had no idea about his "weight" problem, I took a guess and he brokedown and was like "yeah, I admit, I am 15% bf, 232, etc." He seems like a good guy though, as do you. good luck bro.
nobody but an anorexic looking concentration camp survivor would ever look at me and think i look fat, i gaurantee that.
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nobody but an anorexic looking concentration camp survivor would ever look at me and think i look fat, i gaurantee that.
just messin with you bro.
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just messin with you bro.
i know but i'm saying that 15 percent may be fat compared to a pro bodybuilder but it's fairly lean compared to normal people.
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Now that is the Sarcasm I love!!!! "Anorexic concentration camp survivor" Good Stuff, Ok Bobby your turn!!!!!
Wolfy!!!!!
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i know but i'm saying that 15 percent may be fat compared to a pro bodybuilder but it's fairly lean compared to normal people.
Maybe, but thats just because America is so fat in general, nowadays. I thought 15 was average for a woman actually, but I am no expert.
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Body fat Percentage
Guidance on measuring body fat percentage. ... The average man has 15 to 17% body fat, while the average woman is between 18 and 22%. ...
www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/fatcent.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
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originality isn't your strong suit, is it? and let me guess, you've never played any kind of organized sport, have you?
A 200 lb. athlete with half bush's explosiveness could deadlift 450 easy w/o ever having trained that lift specifically. Do yourself a favor: go in and watch some good (forget top) college football players train before you come around here spouting your nonsense.
yes, i've played and i have seen many college football players workout, al beit, not in bush's league, but d1 players, and you'd be suprised how weak they are. meaning, as big and as much as they weight, you'd think they could lift a lot more.
just bc some is fast and explosive, or running through a hole that offensive lineman make, doesnt mean he could lift anything. you are a fucking idiot.
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Body fat Percentage
Guidance on measuring body fat percentage. ... The average man has 15 to 17% body fat, while the average woman is between 18 and 22%. ...
www.brianmac.demon.co.uk/fatcent.htm - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
ok Sarcasm you are average, you should strive for better. btw, thats the first time I linked something, I feel like I am learning something. ;D
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lets put it like this, at 233 and 15 percent bf i'm carrying 34 lbs. of bf that means my lean bodyweight is just a shade under 200 lbs., you're 178 at 5 percent bf that means you're carrying 9lbs. of bf bringing your lean bodyweight down to 169-170 that means i'm carrying 30lbs. more muscle than you.
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lets put it like this, at 233 and 15 percent bf i'm carrying 34 lbs. of bf that means my lean bodyweight is just a shade under 200 lbs., you're 178 at 5 percent bf that means you're carrying 9lbs. of bf bringing your lean bodyweight down to 169-170 that means i'm carrying 30lbs. more muscle than you.
true, but if I gained 25 pounds of fat, then I would weigh 203 with 15 % bf and you wouldn't call me small all the time. Numbers might be a little off.
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yes, i've played and i have seen many college football players workout, al beit, not in bush's league, but d1 players, and you'd be suprised how weak they are. meaning, as big and as much as they weight, you'd think they could lift a lot more.
just bc some is fast and explosive, or running through a hole that offensive lineman make, doesnt mean he could lift anything. you are a fucking idiot.
yeah, sure.
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yeah, sure.
I trained with Mark Spindler in the 90's, he was a pretty good defensive lineman for the lions and he couldn't get up 285 on the flat press. He had impressive leg press numbers, though.
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I trained with Mark Spindler in the 90's, he was a pretty good defensive lineman for the lions and he couldn't get up 285 on the flat press. He had impressive leg press numbers, though.
well, some jackass claimed that Reggie bush couldn't dl 450 . . . here's a few things to remember:
1. He put up 24 (IIRC) reps of 225 at the combine . . . which means that on a day when he did a whole bunch of other shit, he still demonstrated that he's put his hours in lifting weights.
2. He's a 200+ lber at 7-9% bf . . . again indicating that he's put his hours in at the gym.
3. He's probably done a few power cleans at USC.
4. He's one of the most explosive athletes on the planet . . . red "fast twitch" muscle fiber is more conducive to high maxes than it is to endurance (see no. 1).
5. Yes, I've seen "weak" d-linemen before, but they were always strong on stuff like power cleans and squats.
I'm curious, did Mark Spindler care about his flat bench? or did he just throw in a set now and again . . . indicating that w/o seriously training he could still bench around 285.
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well, some jackass claimed that Reggie bush couldn't dl 450 . . . here's a few things to remember:
1. He put up 24 (IIRC) reps of 225 at the combine . . . which means that on a day when he did a whole bunch of other shit, he still demonstrated that he's put his hours in lifting weights.
2. He's a 200+ lber at 7-9% bf . . . again indicating that he's put his hours in at the gym.
3. He's probably done a few power cleans at USC.
4. He's one of the most explosive athletes on the planet . . . red "fast twitch" muscle fiber is more conducive to high maxes than it is to endurance (see no. 1).
5. Yes, I've seen "weak" d-linemen before, but they were always strong on stuff like power cleans and squats.
I'm curious, did Mark Spindler care about his flat bench? or did he just throw in a set now and again . . . indicating that w/o seriously training he could still bench around 285.
He probably wasn't that into flat benching, but he did do it quite often. I don't recall ever seeing him do dbs. I just remember pulling it off him and then repping with it myself. I smirked a little, then he said something to the effect of want to compare W-2's? Humbled me in a hurry.
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He probably wasn't that into flat benching, but he did do it quite often. I don't recall ever seeing him do dbs. I just remember pulling it off him and then repping with it myself. I smirked a little, then he said something to the effect of want to compare W-2's? Humbled me in a hurry.
not trying to cut him any slack, but wasn't he a pretty long-armed, tall drink of water?
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not trying to cut him any slack, but wasn't he a pretty long-armed, tall drink of water?
yeah, totally bottom heavy too. huge ass and legs. I am not saying he wasn't strong, just not at the bench press.
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Bobby no offense but you act like it is hard to have a low body fat at 178. I was like 170 at 7 percent body fat eating mcdonalds and candy going to the gym one time a week when I was like 17.
Hope this helps
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Bobby no offense but you act like it is hard to have a low body fat at 178. I was like 170 at 7 percent body fat eating mcdonalds and candy going to the gym one time a week when I was like 17.
Hope this helps
no, I said it was easy for me to keep bf low, everyone else is calling bs.
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Sorry my mistake. I also have a fast metabolism. Having your bf percentage at your weight with the amount of exercise you say you do is def possible. I believe it
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Sorry my mistake. I also have a fast metabolism. Having your bf percentage at your weight with the amount of exercise you say you do is def possible. I believe it
no prob