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Re: "Zimmerman Medical Report Shows Broken Nose, Lacerations"
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2012, 10:50:39 PM »
Hey, someone else that gets it.

Uh, what country is this again?

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« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2012, 03:45:19 AM »
LOL you also know that zimmerman was on his way back to his truck...

that is unless you believe him and its clear you do as your using his words to bolster your supposition

He was on the phone with 911, said he was at his truck.

3 minutes later he was screaming his head off and pulling trigger.

Now getbiggers say "he wasn't running".   In that case, he powerwalks like usain bolt.  Goes OVER 3 blocks in admitted pursuit, give up, then inexplicably the kid who was running away decides to change course.  It's just not likely.  Way more likely trayvon got around corner and kept chatting (as GF claims) and zimm cut thru yards to intercept his ass.

The prosecutor is rolling with this theory as well.  Up to the jury to decide.

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« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2012, 05:18:57 AM »
One less ghetto thug off the street and we care why? 


You would care if it was your brother or your father or someone that was in your life.  Obviously, you've never seen a person die....I've watched 4 people die in my life and there's nothing great about it no matter who it is
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« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2012, 06:16:57 AM »
have they came out with evidence on who started the altercation yet?

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« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2012, 07:00:57 AM »
it was trayvon who first addressed zimmerman wasnt it?
the whole point is to think guilty/not guilty you dip shit...

again innocent until proven guilty, and supposition doesnt count as evidence...

you keep saying that all zimmerman has is his word, well what do you have?


who knows?

do you?

the only think we know for sure is Martin was walking home, unarmed and committing no crime and we also know that Zimmerman thought he looked suspicious and was following him

we also know that Martin ended up dead and Zimmerman had minor injuries that didn't require so much as a band aid

other than  that we don't know ANYTHING ELSE

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« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2012, 07:03:55 AM »
who knows?
do you?
the only think we know for sure is Martin was walking home, unarmed and committing no crime and we also know that Zimmerman thought he looked suspicious and was following him
we also know that Martin ended up dead and Zimmerman had minor injuries that didn't require so much as a band aid
other than  that we don't know ANYTHING ELSE
We do know that Zimmerman decided against going to the hospital as per his "Family Doctors" medical report...

Nothin to see here... move along

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« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2012, 07:07:42 AM »
We do know that Zimmerman decided against going to the hospital as per his "Family Doctors" medical report...

Nothin to see here... move along


and the EMT's didn't think the cut on his head was even serious enough for a band aid and also after allegedly having his head slammed on the concrete multiple times they didn't even think he needed an ice pack for the non-existent swelling

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« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2012, 08:56:32 AM »
have they came out with evidence on who started the altercation yet?

There is ZERO evidence of which man started the fight.

Plenty showing which one pursued two blocks with a gun in the night.
Plenty showing which one was running away "He's running away".   Oh geez his goose be cooked.

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« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2012, 12:49:41 PM »
autopsy says that Martin was shot at an "intermediate range" whatever that means and that besides the gunshut wound Martins only other injury was described as

 
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"The official report, prepared by the medical examiner in Volusia County, Fla., also found that the 17-year-old Martin had one other fresh injury – a small abrasion, no more than a quarter-inch  in size –  on his left ring finger below the knuckle"

Both documents are part of a mountain of evidence – up to 300 pages and 67 CDs of witness statements, surveillance videos and other material-- expected to be made public soon in connection with the second-degree murder case against Zimmerman
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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/16/11736208-trayvon-martin-killed-by-single-gunshot-fired-from-intermediate-range-autopsy-shows?lite

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« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2012, 12:58:59 PM »
so trayvon punched him in the nose once after he was chased for two blocks by a man wiht a gun.

man gets a busted nose and falls down.

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« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2012, 03:37:42 PM »
autopsy says that Martin was shot at an "intermediate range" whatever that means and that besides the gunshut wound Martins only other injury was described as

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http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/16/11736208-trayvon-martin-killed-by-single-gunshot-fired-from-intermediate-range-autopsy-shows?lite


intermediate range means that he shoot from from around 10 feet.  The way to determine that is if Trayvon had any gunpowder residue on him.  Apparantly he didn't which basically contradicts Zimmerman's story about shooting him while in a struggle


But there's another site saying he was shot from 1 inch to 18 inches away....that's close range....what a mess
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« Reply #86 on: May 17, 2012, 03:43:10 PM »

intermediate range means that he shoot from from around 10 feet.  The way to determine that is if Trayvon had any gunpowder residue on him.  Apparantly he didn't which basically contradicts Zimmerman's story about shooting him while in a struggle

yeah, I was wondering about the powder residue or burn marks or something that I assume (I don't know) would be the case if he was shot within a few inches to a foot or so.

Zimmerman story could start to completely fall apart as some very basic facts come out

The one tiny appraision on on finger is not exactly consistent with Zimmermans story either and we haven't heard anything yet from EMTs




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« Reply #87 on: May 17, 2012, 03:43:56 PM »

intermediate range means that he shoot from from around 10 feet.  The way to determine that is if Trayvon had any gunpowder residue on him.  Apparantly he didn't which basically contradicts Zimmerman's story about shooting him while in a struggle


But there's another site saying he was shot from 1 inch to 18 inches away....that's close range....what a mess

Uh . . . .


Dr. Michael Baden, the former New York City medical examiner, said "intermediate" in such cases is defined as the muzzle of the gun being one to 18 inches away from the entry point when fired.

"If the muzzle is right against the skin, that’s a contact wound," Baden said. Anything beyond 18 inches is considered "distant" range in coroner's parlance, Baden said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/autopsy-reportedly-shows-trayvon-martin-died-from-single-gunshot-wound-fired-at/

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« Reply #88 on: May 17, 2012, 03:52:25 PM »
Uh . . . .


Dr. Michael Baden, the former New York City medical examiner, said "intermediate" in such cases is defined as the muzzle of the gun being one to 18 inches away from the entry point when fired.

"If the muzzle is right against the skin, that’s a contact wound," Baden said. Anything beyond 18 inches is considered "distant" range in coroner's parlance, Baden said.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/17/autopsy-reportedly-shows-trayvon-martin-died-from-single-gunshot-wound-fired-at/


Yea...I consider that close range.....still a fucking mess
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« Reply #89 on: May 17, 2012, 04:07:50 PM »
Cops, Witnesses Back Up George Zimmerman's Version of Trayvon Martin Shooting

George Zimmerman is shown with lacerations to his face and the back of his head on Feb 27, 2012. (Florida State District Attorney's Office)


By MATT GUTMAN (@mattgutmanABC) , SENI TIENABESO (@senijr_abc) and COLLEEN CURRY

May 17, 2012





 Two police reports written the night that George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin said that Zimmerman had a bloody face and nose, according to police reports made public today.
 
The reports also note that two witness accounts appear to back up Zimmerman's version of what happened when they describe a man on his back with another person wearing a hoodie straddling him and throwing punches.
 
In addition, Trayvon Martin's father told an investigator after listening to 911 tapes that captured a man's voice frantically callling for help that it was not his son calling for help.
 
The new information is part of a trove of documents released by the Florida State Attorney today in the case against Zimmerman, who is charged with second degree murder for the Feb. 26 killing of Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old African American male.
 
Zimmerman, 28, is a multi-racial Hispanic man who volunteered for the neighborhood watch committee who claimed that he shot Martin in self-defense after the 6-foot tall, 160 pound teenager knocked him to the ground, banged his head against the ground and went for Zimmerman's gun.
 
Two police officers reported that when they arrived at the scene of the shooting, Zimmerman seemed to have a broken nose and bloodied face. One wrote that his "facial area was bloodied," and the back of his clothing was soiled with wet grass.
 
























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 "Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of his head," Officer Ricardo Ayala wrote.
 
Another officer wrote, "I saw that Zimmerman's face was bloodied and it appeared to me that his nose was broken."
 
Witnesses, whose names were redacted from the report, also lent support to Zimmerman's version of what happened.
 
"He witnesses a black male, wearing a dark colored 'hoodie' on top of a white or Hispanic male and throwing punches 'MMA (mixed martial arts) style," the police report of the witness said. "He then heard a pop. He stated that after hearing the pop, he observed the person he had previously observed on top of the other person (the male wearing the hoodie) laid out on the grass."
 
A second witness described a person on the ground with another straddling him and throwing punches. The man on the bottom was yelling for help, the witness told police.
 
The documents state that Zimmerman can be heard yelling for help 14 times on a 911 call recorded during the fight.
 
The lead investigator on the case, Officer Christopher Serino, wrote that Zimmerman could be heard "yelling for help as he was being battered by Trayvon Martin."
 
Martin's death sparked public outrage after police released Zimmerman without any criminal charges for the killing. Zimmerman was later charged with second-degree murder, and the killing provoked widespread debate about racial profiling.
 
The autopsy also shows that Zimmerman shot Martin from a distance of between 1 inch and 18 inches away, bolstering Zimmerman's claim that he shot Martin during a close struggle.
 
Martin's autopsy report also revealed that there was a quarter-inch by half-inch abrasion on the left fourth finger of Martin, another indication of a possible struggle. The teen, who lived in Miami, was in Sanford while serving a suspension for a bag of marijuana being discovered in his possession.
 

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« Reply #90 on: May 17, 2012, 04:22:15 PM »
Zimmerman yelled for help 14 times and was getting beat down "MMA style."  How the heck did they charge him with murder?? 

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« Reply #91 on: May 17, 2012, 04:30:07 PM »
Zimmerman yelled for help 14 times and was getting beat down "MMA style."   How the heck did they charge him with murder?? 

you're joking ....right

I've seen kids who have fallen off their trycycle with worse injuries

these injuries are the proof of life that his life was in danger ?

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« Reply #92 on: May 17, 2012, 04:31:18 PM »
Zimmerman yelled for help 14 times and was getting beat down "MMA style."  How the heck did they charge him with murder?? 
Because group-think took over amongst Black people and guilt ridden liberals.

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« Reply #93 on: May 17, 2012, 04:32:41 PM »
you're joking ....right

I've seen kids who have fallen off their trycycle with worse injuries

these injuries are the proof of life that his life was in danger ?
Stupid argument because you could fall off your bike, not have any visible injuries, yet die a few hours later.

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« Reply #94 on: May 17, 2012, 04:37:11 PM »
Stupid argument because you could fall off your bike, not have any visible injuries, yet die a few hours later.

another reason you'd think the EMT would have taken him to the hospital or at least given him an ice pack for his head

and of course his injuries clearly weren't life threatening because he is perfectly fine

we as a society via our judicial system have the right and obligation to determine whether the use of deadly force was justified


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« Reply #95 on: May 17, 2012, 04:47:26 PM »
another reason you'd think the EMT would have taken him to the hospital or at least given him an ice pack for his head

and of course his injuries clearly weren't life threatening because he is perfectly fine

we as a society via our judicial system have the right and obligation to determine whether the use of deadly force was justified


The EMT can`t force anyone to go to the hospital.  Furthermore, injuries do not HAVE to be life threatening in order for you to defend yourself with deadly force.  So what you are in fact advocating is that Zimmerman should have been beat worse, a short distance from death and THEN he would be justified in using his gun?

Or are you saying that Trayvon should have had a free for all worthy of WorldStarHipHop.com ?

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« Reply #96 on: May 17, 2012, 05:06:56 PM »
another reason you'd think the EMT would have taken him to the hospital or at least given him an ice pack for his head

and of course his injuries clearly weren't life threatening because he is perfectly fine

we as a society via our judicial system have the right and obligation to determine whether the use of deadly force was justified


EMT doesnt have to take anyone that doesnt want to go.
Youve been told this over a dozen times broseph.

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« Reply #97 on: May 17, 2012, 05:07:35 PM »
The EMT can`t force anyone to go to the hospital.  Furthermore, injuries do not HAVE to be life threatening in order for you to defend yourself with deadly force.  So what you are in fact advocating is that Zimmerman should have been beat worse, a short distance from death and THEN he would be justified in using his gun?

Or are you saying that Trayvon should have had a free for all worthy of WorldStarHipHop.com ?

Sure, but that's for a person to decide in the heat of the moment and for the judicial system to decide after the fact..... as has happened countless times in the past

Maybe "stand your ground" will give him an out

As I've said more than once, time will tell


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« Reply #98 on: May 17, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »
EMT doesnt have to take anyone that doesnt want to go.
Youve been told this over a dozen times broseph.

I know and I also said you'd think they would have at least given him a band aid or an ice pack

did he refuse ALL TREATMENT of any kind

Do you have any knowledge of what the EMT's said, suggested, etc...

If so please share

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« Reply #99 on: May 17, 2012, 05:13:44 PM »
I know and I also said you'd think they would have at least given him a band aid or an ice pack

did he refuse ALL TREATMENT of any kind

Do you have any knowledge of what the EMT's said, suggested, etc...

If so please share
"A paramedic report says Zimmerman had a 1-inch laceration on his head and forehead abrasion.

"Bleeding tenderness to his nose, and a small laceration to the back of his head. All injuries have minor bleeding," paramedic Michael Brandy wrote about Zimmerman's injuries in the report."

http://news.yahoo.com/autopsy-evidence-marijuana-martins-blood-215533578.html

with THC in trayvons system as well