Steroids only add 5-10%. They are a finishing touch, nothing more.
hormones are not only "FINISHING TOUCH". we train natural up to 190-200 pounds@ 8-10% anything over that is hormones. now! before BOB chic is coming and getting his fat ass into what im saying....it is 5'9" 5'10" 190-200 8-10%!! every inch = 7 pounds! so for a 6'1 it will be 220lb @ 8-10% before he turns to hormones.
NOW there is no need to argue with me! i know everything when it comes to bodybuilding and the people involved in it from the local gym rat to the beggining pro to the old timer apperson kinda pro. we sell and import the products. we, unlike few claims i see around here, really make 400-500k/ year.
the real "in the know" will never try to argue with me. eventhough they dont always know who i am they simply wont. the ones who try to argue with me are doing it out of boredom and lack of knowledge.