Serious advice: apprentice as a electrician or a plumber. Those fucking guys make bank.
Since you have zero income. Begged getbig for money to buy a pickup. date only supermodels 10 and above, Any career choice for you is a good career choice.
Wait, what?
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
You're rarely taken seriously in the business world while in your 20s.
Take AJ's advice, a solid trade is the way to go.
How many 40+ year old personal trainers do you see?
Not a Career. A stepping stone job, and a good way to spend your youth while determining what type of career you do want to pursue. You can make a decent living as long as you have no dependents.
Not true in anyway, shape or form.
You're an exception. The rule is that it's a transitional job.
And, as a rule, this baby will make you more money than any exercise machine.
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I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 21...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 21 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 21-21..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
He won't take my advice because he's already imagining himself as a big CEO yelling at his employees and making the "dimes" wet. He's already mentally picking out his Italian suits.
You are rushing into making a decision, give it ten years until you are 21.
Time is a curious thing.
He said he's 23 now.....somehow he jumped from 19 to 23 and managed skip 20,21, and 22!
No shit. Thought he had that cushy exec job all lined up, with company ownership in the near future.
He said he's 23 now.....somehow he jumped from 19 to 23 and managed skip 20,21, and 22!
ve toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
If you parents have money try becoming a pilot. I have friends who dropped out of college making the same as brain surgeons.
If you parents have money try becoming a pilot. I have friends who dropped out of college making the same as brain surgeons.
I've thought about this actually. I think for 70k you can become one in two yearsmy friend was trying to be one, he had to stop because he can't afford the hours.
If you parents have money try becoming a pilot. I have friends who dropped out of college making the same as brain surgeons.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=565661.0
Not his proudest moment. :-\
personal training is good when your young and full of energy. but when you get older and life gets serious constantly hustling for more clients gets old. Its not a long term stable career. also when you get old, who would want to hire you? you can only rely on your looks and body for so long. think about it that way.
A pilot for what? Because the airline's pilots union makes sure that the new guys don't make shit. Hell, I knew a 777 pilot that made about $100k and that's close to the top.
A pilot for what? Because the airline's pilots union makes sure that the new guys don't make shit. Hell, I knew a 777 pilot that made about $100k and that's close to the top.
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
Seriously, do you want someone like Flinestones operating a plane? Just sit back and let that sink in for a moment. :-\ :-\ :-\
Dosent seem dumb to me, I'd fucking love to get paid to hang out in a gym all day training people
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.You are too proud to ask your parents for money yet you begged getbig the members for money to buy a car. You're the biggest liar in the world. I want the mods to change your user name to 'Billy Bullshit'
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
You are too proud to ask your parents for money yet you begged getbig the members for money to buy a car. You're the biggest liar in the world. I want the mods to change your user name to 'Billy Bullshit'
Lmao
Not really, but if he gets serious about it I guess he (and the passengers) will be fine.
You are too proud to ask your parents for money yet you begged getbig the members for money to buy a car. You're the biggest liar in the world. I want the mods to change your user name to 'Billy Bullshit'
That all holds true if you are the stereotypical trainer, which most are, sadly. I've made a career out of it for 21 years as well as owning a gym for the past 9. It's knowledge and the implementation, and application of that knowledge to the particular clients which is what will set you apart. Anyone can count 3 sets of 10 reps, discuss their personal problems, ask for money, and model their physiques for "clients", but that's not what the job is when you do it on any kind of advanced level, which is the only way to have a sustainable, as well as interesting career.
I train several doctors, a host of athletes, pros and hopefuls, a lot of phys therapy clients, as well as some decently known entertainment industry people. I don't say this in an effort to impress anyone whatsoever, for even a minute, but simply to point out, that if you apply yourself as a student of the craft, learn anatomy, physiology, kinisiology, movement, nutrition, etc,, etc, and are able to apply all of it to every INDIVIDUAL client, you'll be on to something.
A client/friend of mine is a captain at Southwest and he makes @ $300k/year. He was a first officer for 10 years and has been in the left seat for just over 2. He has 18,000 hours on the books total, including military. Newbies get paid less, naturally, but the regional airlines pay virtually nothing, even to the captains he said.
True. When someone here's the word "personal trainer" they just assume you're a rep counter and because this is technically a bodybuilding forum most do see training beyond that.
I am calling bullshit on this. Southwest only flies 737s and the UNION pay scale is based on the curb weight of the equipment with the 747-400 being the most lucrative. You friend is blowing smoke up your ass. A captain on Southwest is LUCKY to be making 6 figures.
A personal trainer isn't a career. Get into a skilled trade.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
Well, it all depends.
If your goal is to start your own personal training business/center, and you have a good business sense, a personal training job may be a good stepping-stone to this possible future career.
If your goal is to just be a personal trainer your whole life without opening up your own business, then I would not do it.
Conclusion: since you're not smart enough and too immature to ever start your own business, I'd advise against it. Pick a different career.
I am sort of in the process of looking at personal training certificates. I will probably go with NASM, if I decide to take the next step. This would not be my main career-it would be more because I enjoy doing it.
Yes, we realize that a Trainer also needs to master the inspirational phrases like, "C'mon!" and "Don't Quit!" 8)
Consider a trade.
personal training is good when your young and full of energy. but when you get older and life gets serious constantly hustling for more clients gets old. Its not a long term stable career. also when you get old, who would want to hire you? you can only rely on your looks and body for so long. think about it that way.
Why NASM? Just curious. I'm interested in getting a cert too just don't know which organization is best.
what is a lineman ?
training motivated people is probably fun but majority of your clients will be anything but that...
and hustling 24/7 for new clients seems like a pain in the ass.
+ shit pay
that said if you're kind of a one-dimensional person and training/fitness is the only thing you like to do then go ahead
$30 per hour and not guaranteed 40 or $150-250 per hr guaranteed?
Someone charging the higher rate is running their business well and has developed great clientele.
I get that a great personal trainer isn't a rep-counter/cheerleader but that's probably what most people want. A friend struggled getting his training business off the ground despite having a masters in kinesiology.
Someone charging the higher rate is running their business well and has developed great clientele.
I get that a great personal trainer isn't a rep-counter/cheerleader but that's probably what most people want. A friend struggled getting his training business off the ground despite having a masters in kinesiology.
if you hustle hgh/aas you can make good buck while personal training. :)
The gyms/clubs want Certificates for insurance purposes, but, the clients generally don't care. So, if you want to get certified, I would contact gyms in the area and see what they recognize.
Well, yeah, most clients don't know anything about certificates, etc. Its all for liability, in case the gym gets sued. But, if you can help people reach their fitness goals, that is all they care about.
I think the issue becomes when you train someone long enough, they reach their fitness goals, and learn enough to train on their own. They then no longer need a personal trainer. Thus, you're assuming that there will be a revolving door of people.
I think its also better for a gym to have sales people that recruit potential clients for the personal trainers, instead of having the PT's do it themselves.
I am calling bullshit on this. Southwest only flies 737s and the UNION pay scale is based on the curb weight of the equipment with the 747-400 being the most lucrative. You friend is blowing smoke up your ass. A captain on Southwest is LUCKY to be making 6 figures.
I am thinking about getting a NASM cert because fuck it. The class would be fun.
One of the gyms I used to train at does this, and take a 50% cut of what they charge.
Union scale is not based upon curb weight. I've seen his pay stubs and how they structure his pay. Every airline has it's own deal. Some companies pay more than others. It's like any field.
FYI, the 777 guys are typically the highest paid, not the 747 he said.
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One of the gyms I used to train at does this, and take a 50% cut of what they charge.
The problem with personal training is that almost every gym will not allow you to free lance in their gym. If you work for chain gym most will pay you chump change and expect quotas on how many you get to sign up for personal training.
If you train people at your house and they get hurt they can sue your home owners insurance and if they win the home owner's insurance will sue you because the house was never insured for commercial purposes and it could violate town zoning laws.
Training one person at a time require too much time. It seems the ones making money train a group. Two personal trainers operate at a park by me. They have groups of people waiting on them. I really can't figure out why these dopey clients pay these trainers? One has them run about 200 yards then stop and do their pushups. Next 200 yards on the trail they stop for mountain climbers and so on. The other sets up cones like a football training does and have them sprint the cones. It seems he is doing drills from football training.
Unless you live in a high end area where people will throw money at you for personal training it's a tough way to make a livable income. I know one female that is making insane money but she works in Manhattan with high end clients. I think she pays the gym to let her work her clients out there.
LOL 1:02.....
To anyone wanting to get into PT'ing, better enjoy putting people through routines like described above.
Depends on your training philosophy.
Indeed. It's not mine, but mine would repel most. People are now officially scared to get "too big" it seems now.
Why not just have them subb for some moving company, have them move people' sshit, have them pay to do it, and make money from them having moved people's stuff.
Society is stupid enough to fall for that now I think!
As far as our general clientele we mix it up and write the program to fit their desired results, it's just not one sided training. If they want to bodybuid, compete in fitness or figure I place them with a trainer that specializes in just that, general fitness/weight loss another trainer that specializes in that and strength, conditioning, speed work usually it's me.
I am thinking about getting a NASM cert because fuck it. The class would be fun.
As far as our general clientele we mix it up and write the program to fit their desired results, it's just not one sided training. If they want to bodybuid, compete in fitness or figure I place them with a trainer that specializes in just that, general fitness/weight loss another trainer that specializes in that and strength, conditioning, speed work usually it's me.
You should hire Flintstones. Problem solved.
$30 per hour and not guaranteed 40 or $150-250 per hr guaranteed?More lies. Your website lists 8 1 on 1 sessions for $320, so $40 per session. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that sessions are 30 min, I'm sure no human being could stomach your presence for more than 1/2 hour, so that's $80 per hour. Now, after costs, a plumber makes more than you, as he should.
if you hustle hgh/aas you can make good buck while personal training. :)
I've been told that this is a dumb long term career choice although I do get clients easily. The thing is my parents offered to help me out so I want to take advantage of it while I can, I'm 23...not too old to turn my life around but by the time Im 25 I will be. I would like a respectable career by the time I'm 25-26..or at least on my way to one. My parents do quite well but I have a huge issue with asking them for money.
Right now All I do is pretty much travel and workout. Hey I can't complain, the problem is when people ask "what do you do?" I just don't get any satisfaction telling people Im a personal trainer while all my friends are becoming doctors, lawyers, joining the military, etc. I feel like it also effects my relationships with the women I date, not so much in the beginning but as time goes on the lack of depth in my life is obvious.
Should I go back to school and get a degree or would I be better off learning a trade at this point? Im open to any suggestions. I like manual labor type shit......Ive toyed with the idea of becoming a lineman, my buddy is one and making 100k a year biggest idiot I know haha.
any advice appreciated
Serious advice: apprentice as a electrician or a plumber. Those fucking guys make bank.
Add, when they work. Working is the trades is not always steady work. It can be feast or famine for trades people.
Whenever I call a plumber or an electrician, he's booked into the next century.
Problem is they make shit money per hour, so they have to work 14 hour days.
Whenever I call a plumber or an electrician, he's booked into the next century.
Problem is they make shit money per hour, so they have to work 14 hour days.
just get a job stripin' on the side. The women love the whole "carpenter/construction guy" gimmick, never gets old.
More lies. Your website lists 8 1 on 1 sessions for $320, so $40 per session. Giving you the benefit of the doubt that sessions are 30 min, I'm sure no human being could stomach your presence for more than 1/2 hour, so that's $80 per hour. Now, after costs, a plumber makes more than you, as he should.
This is true right now because there is a housing shortage. Builders cannot keep up with the demand. People are fixing up the homes they already have, which also puts trades people to work. I was quoted $70,000 to remodel my kitchen. Builders and contractors can charge whatever they want and still get plenty of work.
Throughout history though, working in the trades (especially if you are a contractor or working for one) has its boom times and its bust times too. My stepdad was a contractor, when the work was plentiful, he made tons of money. When the work wasn't there, he barely got by.
Many trainers are just a front to their drug dealing business. That's why you always see them at the gym, not doing much.
What to you call shit money?
"Master Plumber Salary - Pay Scale
www.payscale.com/research/US/Job=Master_Plumber/Hourly_Rate
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At career start (within the first five years), average income sits near $49K, and the average for folks who have worked for five to 10 years is only slightly higher at $51K. Master Plumbers see a median salary of $54K after reaching one to two decades on the job."
While this isn't big money, it's a decent income. I believe these are the figures in 2012. They are likely somewhat higher today.
Problem is they make shit money per hour, so they have to work 14 hour days.
Problem is they make shit money per hour, so they have to work 14 hour days.
Lol at Coach trying so hard to convince us he's making tons of money.
You come off as the least intelligent poster on this place (and that says a lot!). I really doubt you're making as much as you claim. But honestly, I don't really care and I hope you're doing fine. But you're acting like Goodrum when he tries to convince us he's doing great. :\
I couldn't careless what you think. Not trying to convince anyone of what I make. You morons put blanket statement out how "personal trainers" are portrayed and that more money is made in the trades, I'll make that comparison all day long. Don't hate because I created a decent business of it. I don't need to convince anyone. I'm 53 and on track to retire (if i want) within 5 years. But since I don't believe in retirement it really doesn't matter.
The problem is most (like 99% of the people on this board) think that either going to work in a suit and tie or going under a house to fix a leak is more of "real" job than personal training.
I couldn't careless what you think. Not trying to convince anyone of what I make. You morons put blanket statement out how "personal trainers" are portrayed and that more money is made in the trades, I'll make that comparison all day long. Don't hate because I created a decent business of it. I don't need to convince anyone. I'm 53 and on track to retire (if i want) within 5 years. But since I don't believe in retirement it really doesn't matter.
The problem is most (like 99% of the people on this board) think that either going to work in a suit and tie or going under a house to fix a leak is more of "real" job than personal training.
This is very true. Most people, even here, are classing a steady income with no risks as success.
Fuck that shit life would be boring. I took some risks, had problems, but in how it worked out I never would make what I make now working for someone else. As for steady income vs what's possible working for yourself, steady income jobs would max out at a level, working for yourself could be limitless. You could make more in a year than some in a steady job makes in 5-6.
So if the average salary is 50k you're saying a pt can make about 250k/year?
Get the fuck outta here with that shit....
So if the average salary is 50k you're saying a pt can make about 250k/year?
Get the fuck outta here with that shit....
$65hr @ 3 days per week = $780 per month x 25 clients = $19,500 per month x 12 = $234,000 yr
X2. The average personal trainer at LA Fitness or Equinox is not making 250K a year, UNLESS they also have their own business on the side.
Thus, it ALL depends what you do with it. Again, the average trainer who works in a gym (in which he does not own) is definitely not making 250K a year. If they are, its EXTREMELY rare. If you have your own business, of course you can make a killing.
$65hr @ 3 days per week = $780 per month x 25 clients = $19,500 per month x 12 = $234,000 yr
I don't know this for a fact, but it wouldn't surprise me if the big chains have no-compete clauses in their employment contracts.
As far as trainers making 250k, maybe a few "celebrity" trainers. The real question is what the median trainer makes and the benefits they receive. That's what makes Training a bad career choice: having to be an exception to make a good living.
When I did training, in the late 1980's, I worked in one of the biggest, most well known health clubs in Manhattan. The club charged the clients $30hr and gave us hard working trainers $8hr. :'( Some of the other trainers cut cash deals with clients on the down low, but, sneaking around isn't my style. So, I moved on.
$65hr @ 3 days per week = $780 per month x 25 clients = $19,500 per month x 12 = $234,000 yr
Dude that math doesn't work. At $65/hour, you'd need to work 70 billable hours a week, 52 weeks out of the year to clear $234k. That means no lunch, no dinner and no vacation.
Dude that math doesn't work. At $65/hour, you'd need to work 70 billable hours a week, 52 weeks out of the year to clear $234k. That means no lunch, no dinner and no vacation.
$65hr @ 3 days per week = $780 per month x 25 clients = $19,500 per month x 12 = $234,000 yr
That the defenders of Training being a good career have to go to such lengths to make their case is evidence that it's not a good career. The reality for most is that it's a transitional job, a way to make money until you find something better.
And bang MILFs.
This is true. I nailed my first older women as a Trainer.
That the defenders of Training being a good career have to go to such lengths to make their case is evidence that it's not a good career. The reality for most is that it's a transitional job, a way to make money until you find something better.
When I did the job, I was 23 and proud to tell people I was a trainer. Now, @50, I'd be embarrassed.
It can also be used as a hobby or side income. If you love working out and helping people, nothing wrong with doing it on the side.
I plan on getting certified. I may make the plunge in the next few months and do it. But I have to get CPR certified first.
$65hr @ 3 days per week = $780 per month x 25 clients = $19,500 per month x 12 = $234,000 yr
You goddamn retard, you can't even multiply.
It's so easy to see through your BS, you're not doing as good as you claim.
My wife is a PT and a group fitness instructor and does it because she a.) likes working out and b.) likes helping people that want to work (fat and lazy people earn heaps of scorn tho), and trust me, it ain't a living. As I was getting all of our tax shit ready for my accountant, I had 8 separate 1099s and W-2s just for her stuff and it probably added up to <$20k. Now, she doesn't need to do it and isn't out there hustling work, I get that. But most places don't really pay shit.
Doing it as a second job for a few extra bucks isn't a bad idea. The real busy times for health clubs is 5-9pm. So, it's possible to make Training work with another job.
I'm not trying to be discouraging. I don't regret my time as a Trainer. I just don't believe it's a job that ages well. I did some bartending, back in the day, too. I made money and met women, but, I don't consider bartending a good career choice.
Dude that math doesn't work. At $65/hour, you'd need to work 70 billable hours a week, 52 weeks out of the year to clear $234k. That means no lunch, no dinner and no vacation.
Exactly. You really have to be able to separate yourself from everyone else. All those fags marketing themselves all over Facebook instagram.
I did it for 18 months. A gym opened up in my little hometown. Offered personally training I was certified and I have a degree in health physical education. It cost 100 an hour to work with me. I had a couple ckients. A few gay guys and one or two moms. I didn't make shit. I wasn't any good at marketing myself this is before the facebook generation. You need your own studio or small set up and you have to be able to get your name out their. Flin is a gymrat. He knows he to train for size and strength. Most guys who are looking from that aren't going to pay.
A woman i am good friends with is a personal trainer and she asked me to take an outdoors class for her in the local park one evening. I really didn't want to but it was actually a lot of fun. It was just 16 women, quite a few of them hot and i just thrashed them around a park for an hour and had a laugh with them. It would be one of those jobs where you'd be drowning in fanny all the time.
Where the fuck do you live to charge that much? I'm calling absolute BULLSHIT on this. Funny guy you are man...
It's not bullshit. You live in Canada. Plenty of upscale gyms in Manhattan that charge well over $100.00 for one training session. They target very wealthy people.
$780mo per client x 25 clients = $19,500mo.
You goddamn retard, you can't even multiply.
It's so easy to see through your BS, you're not doing as good as you claim.
Your janky math can't escape the 70 hours/week x 52 weeks to get to that gross number. That's not doable in any way/shape/form as nobody can structure EVERY day so that they are engaged with a client 10 straight hours a day SEVEN days a week. It's just not possible.
Sorry.
Where the fuck do you live to charge that much? I'm calling absolute BULLSHIT on this. Funny guy you are man...
Equinox charges 3 grand for a ten week thing. There are plenty of people who play hundred dollars an hour easily.
Hahahaha, ok. 25 clients at $780mo is $19,500. What's the problem here?
Unless coach is claiming that he does small group fitness at $65/hour/client. If he's training 3-4 at a time, the math might add up. I was basing my math on 1:1 PT.
Makes no sense to walk away from a job that pays that much.
$100 for one training session, fucking morons to pay that, wtf?
A lot of them are upscale women who are married to VERY wealthy men. What's a $100 training session to someone who is worth $50 million? Drop in the bucket for them.
Not an enormous pool of clients with that kind of scratch.
Where the fuck do you live to charge that much? I'm calling absolute BULLSHIT on this. Funny guy you are man...
Hahahaha, ok. 25 clients at $780mo is $19,500. What's the problem here?
Your clients are paying $195 per week??
I said I was a personal trainer years ago. I work in a hospital now and I'm back at school. He long did it take you talk dig all that up.2 minutes
personal training is good when your young and full of energy. but when you get older and life gets serious constantly hustling for more clients gets old. Its not a long term stable career. also when you get old, who would want to hire you? you can only rely on your looks and body for so long. think about it that way.>:(
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Im amazed that you walked away from a lucrative career charging $100 an hour.
Your clients are paying $195 per week??
Well, it comes with the "NFL Advanced Stack" and a prep coach.
Having worked as both a trainer and as a Plumber's assistant, the latter is easily the more stable source of a solid income. Hell, even at 50, I could probably get back into the game in short order. But, be warned, Plumbing is literally a shitty business. If you can handle that reality, there's definitely money to be made pumping this kind of iron:
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The personal training industry suffers because of the justifiable stigma of lack of value as provided for by 95% of its participants.
The low barriers to entry set the tone for most who just see it as a temporary gig and not a career to be nurtured.
It's still an industry in its infancy, when/if some multi million dollar PT companies come along they will give trainers genuine career paths and thinks will look up for the higher echelon and ambitious younger trainers.
There are a lot of PT companies that offer exactly that, a career path. There are so many opportunities in this industry that people don't realize.
The personal training industry suffers because of the justifiable stigma of lack of value as provided for by 95% of its participants.
The low barriers to entry set the tone for most who just see it as a temporary gig and not a career to be nurtured.
It's still an industry in its infancy, when/if some multi million dollar PT companies come along they will give trainers genuine career paths and thinks will look up for the higher echelon and ambitious younger trainers.
Where are these companies? Serious question.
Just about everywhere. At least either close to or in major cities. What city are you close to or in. Of course you don't have to give specifics. lolcare to name any in your area?
The plumber that my company uses is definitely a millionaire, granted he busted his ass in his 20's-30's but he's 48 now and just cruises. House in South Carolina and a Benz. I'm a contractor and still think plumber/electrician is the way to go. I would choose electric over plumbing personally.
I got 50 the gym got 50. I only had a few appointments a week and a shitty base pay. Flintstones is given 7 page of good advice and he's worried about bitches hitting his phone up lol.
I travel all over so pick anywhere you think there's a PT business substantial enough to allow trainers to build a real career path.
They are few and far between as they don't have the scale.
Take Peak in NY, there's no career path there as the place has never turned a profit. Rising up the ranks by making a few extra bucks an hour isn't an authentic career path with true longevity.
LA is all boutique studios and as far as I know the PT operations are owner operated spaces where the PT career isn't a whole lot different than working at Equinox.
But I am open to be educated. I'm genuinely curious, a lifetime in the gym and in business means I pay attention to this.
Electric is the cleaner, less hard labor intensive of the two, but there more work for Plumbers.
I recently replaced a light switch and an old Radiator Valve at my girl's apartment. The former was a piece of cake; the latter almost separated my shoulder.
Personally, I'd rather run wires than deal with pipes, but, if it were all about a sure fire way of making money, I'd go Plumbing.
The personal training industry suffers because of the justifiable stigma of lack of value as provided for by 95% of its participants.
The low barriers to entry set the tone for most who just see it as a temporary gig and not a career to be nurtured.
It's still an industry in its infancy, when/if some multi million dollar PT companies come along they will give trainers genuine career paths and thinks will look up for the higher echelon and ambitious younger trainers.
Funny you mentioned Peak. Dowdell has been in business since at lease the mid 2000's. I don't think he would still be in business if he were not turning a profit. I don't what commercial leasing is in Manhatten but I would have to guess at least what? $6 sqft + triple net?
These multimillion companies exist, they are the chain gyms like Lifetime, Equinox, etc. PT -> PT/Fitness Manager -> General Manager -> Regional Manager is the career path for successful trainers in these companies
If/when health insurance begins to cover personal training sessions, THAT'S when it'll really take off
That's not the career path serious trainers aspire to, you're just referring to a (usually shitty) and low paid (PTs often make more) fitness career progression.
I was referring to multimillion dollar PT businesses, if they exist.
We are talking about Flint here...
That's not the career path serious trainers aspire to, you're just referring to a (usually shitty) and low paid (PTs often make more) fitness career progression.
I was referring to multimillion dollar PT businesses, if they exist.
I'm a little confused here. Is deciding to become an Entrepeneur not a career path? If someone (especially now a days) decided they wanted to start out as a PT then open their own studio, gym or performance center then finish their days out in that particular industry either having an out (selling their business) and going on to other paths within the fitness industry (like any other business) is that not a path? I know I won't own a facility forever but I do have other goals within this industry when I decide to sell.
Being a successful entrepreneur, buying yourself more than a job but actually owning a real business, is very hard and rare. If that is the expected career path of the PT then the vast majority have no chance.
My comments are not aimed at me being negative towards your own situation, I just wanted to know where the multi million dollar PT companies are that will be needed to bring stability/longevity/career development to most within the PT industry. If being "successful" within the world of PT means being able to hustle and wanting to own your own business, then that's massively limited for all those trainers out there with other things to offer.
Exos, FQ10, Mike Boyle Strength and Conditioning, Results Fitness (Alwyn Cosgrove), Unbreakable (Jay Glazer) just to name a few. The most successful out of this list would be Exos (formerly Athletes Performance) and a lot more around this country.
The only thing that would be limiting PT's from moving on to their own facility would be themselves and nothing else. Not sure why you would say they would be massively limited.
Btw, I could also name people that either still have facilities or have moved on from facilities to go on to PT business development that have made millions within the industry. They all started out as PT's.
These are not examples of multi million dollar businesses that offer real career progression. None of them are remotely big enough for that. Scale is needed for the right proportion of chiefs to indians.
You are blinded by your bias. I am not being derogatory to PTs, I think it is a tremendously hard job to do well and most people will never appreciate that, but you've not shown me a single business here that could offer long term career progression for a group of ambitious young men as they develop within their profession.
Other industries take their young talent and nurture it, allowing room to grow whilst still using many of the skills and insights picked up along the way. That's very rare in PT because the business is still too much every man for himself and / or small businesses. I do think it will happen, but it needs the right sort of businesses in it in order to offer the right long term opportunities.
No offense here, but I think you're a little lost here or not keeping up with what the industry offers..
http://www.athletesperformance.com
Also, I'll be at Tempe facility at the end of March then a day later to UofA for their Pro-day. If you're out that way during that time. You're really underestimating the opportunities here.
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!are you the moron that lied about his age, begged for us to buy you a truck, then posted a video of you doing shoulder presses with your dumb hood on your face covering your eyes?
are you the moron that lied about his age, begged for us to buy you a truck, then posted a video of you doing shoulder presses with your dumb hood on your face covering your eyes?
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!pic of car with an upside down cup on the bonnet.
Your posts warm my heart. You crack me up. :Dhello friend
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!
flinstone, u can change your life at ANY time. i know alot of guys who dropped everything and went back to school in late 20s, early 30s, or were still just floating around life even in 30s. do what interests you. i was lucky and got into bizness shit early with just an undergrad. in some ways i regret the early jump into success, and wish i traveled, did the peace corp, joined the military, or went to college later in life instead of 18. if training and gym interests you, then Do it. i dont like my job as its not fulfilling at all. i make a good living, but no personal satisfaction. its a trade off. oh and about women....who cares. life is about making it what u want
pic of car with an upside down cup on the bonnet.
like that term - bonnet !
My favourite Britishism is 'cufflink time-johnny' for a watch.
My favourite Britishism is 'cufflink time-johnny' for a watch.
sweet fuck all is pretty cool too
I BET YOU GET THAT A LOT WHEN YOU ASK PEOPLE "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?"
Why Guvna', I think someone might be yankin' your chain cos I ain't never 'eard that one noes I ain't.
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to give an update. I took the plunge as a pt and began working at a big chain gym. Obviously I made shit money for a while there were a lot of long days with shit pay working 50 sessions a week but I busted my ass and became friendly with as many faces as possible. Once I left and went private that was the major turning point in my life. I'm about to get a $60,000 car in the next month or so. I never thought I had the potential to be a good salesman but I truly found my niche. At one point my family had literally given up on me ever being successful haha. It's really not hard to make a lot of money as a pt, charge enough money and target the right clientele...i live in a rich old area so money isn't an issue for people. ...Having a personal trainer is really a "status" thing for rich people. Lol. Thanks for everyone's advice here, it's truly appreciated. Your boy turned out ok!
As long as you do it right you'll make a great living while changing people's lives. Don't just do it for the money and just don't be a "rep counter". Keep learning and keep growing.Not everyone gets into coaching to schmoe soapy studs, like you though buh...
I still don't understand why Goodrum didn't follow through with it. Not being sarcastic.
Not everyone gets into coaching to schmoe soapy studs, like you though buh...
Is that what you call yourold ass balls? Eww and no, bad schmoe coach! Youre a very bad schmoe!! >:( :-X
You sound butt hurt. Would you like some play doh?
Eww and no, bad schmoe coach! Youre a very bad schmoe!! >:( :-X
As long as you do it right you'll make a great living while changing people's lives. Don't just do it for the money and just don't be a "rep counter". Keep learning and keep growing.
I still don't understand why Goodrum didn't follow through with it. Not being sarcastic.
For those who think Personal training is dumb....well, read this from my friend Jeremy "The Tall Trainer"
http://www.talltrainer.com/about-us/
Never. If I saw you near my neighbors house I would be calling the police to report a home invasion.
It just wasn't in the stars in Sylva as there was not a hot enough market of people with disposable income and honestly, I wanted to get away from the place as quick as possible and get back. Since I'm back in Greenville, I can still go out to Thornblade and do some in-home training for 150.00 an hour easy. However, my present job keeps my very busy as well as my remaining ecommerce sites.
Of course, if something ever happens, I'll definitely go back to training people. The great thing about Greenville is that people have a lot of disposable income and a lot of obesity....the perfect storm for trainers. That's why people like Trey Hodges, Charles Dixon, etc stay put.
I believe Jeremy is in our Mastermind group.So, let me get this straight. You are part of a 'mastermind group'?
So, let me get this straight. You are part of a 'mastermind group'?
It just wasn't in the stars in Sylva as there was not a hot enough market of people with disposable income and honestly, I wanted to get away from the place as quick as possible and get back. Since I'm back in Greenville, I can still go out to Thornblade and do some in-home training for 150.00 an hour easy. However, my present job keeps my very busy as well as my remaining ecommerce sites.
Of course, if something ever happens, I'll definitely go back to training people. The great thing about Greenville is that people have a lot of disposable income and a lot of obesity....the perfect storm for trainers. That's why people like Trey Hodges, Charles Dixon, etc stay put.
Vince, why does your present job keep you so busy? Do you take work home with you?
Yes, I do take work home on occasion although I work very hard to get all of it done by Friday so my weekends are free. I've also been placed in charge of a few things as well and I've taken on a couple of projects as well. The good thing is that I'm back to being financially secure, and I'm back in the middle class where I deserve to be. I can go out, eat a nice meal, watch a movie, and sit out on my patio and enjoy life
Yes. Is this a problem?
It is for your 'mastermind' group.
You sound like a chick. Shut up and grow a nut that way you'll at least have one. Man up, sissy.So you're saying you like putting nuts in your mouth, and see if you can make them grow?:-X
Thanks for your input Mega-masturbater