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Title: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 12:22:49 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 12:31:41 AM

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Nobody owned that land. And the land that was owned (like Manhattan) was bought fair and square.
Please dont accuse the great U.S.A. for wrongdoings when there been none.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 12:34:31 AM
U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Nobody owned that land. And the land that was owned (like Manhattan) was bought fair and square.Please dont accuse the great U.S.A. for wrongdoings when there been none.


How can you buy something from someone who doesnt own it in the first place.
You can never own land, you just have sole use of it at a price.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 12:37:55 AM
How can you buy something from someone who doesnt own it in the first place.
You can never own land, you just have sole use of it at a price.

If I go out in the desert and start my little factory out there in nowhere that is mine, the rest isnt. I guess the indians were doing shit on manhattan and because of it a deal could be made, if they didnt then it would cost nothing.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: theredeemer on July 29, 2014, 12:37:59 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);


Your ignorance is painful.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 29, 2014, 12:48:00 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);


Another text from Leopold's Jehovah priest ,  ;)
Say something about King Leopold & his hand chopping sport in "Belgian" Kongo  :P
Or Che Guevara killing of prisoners (a U still Cuban ?).

 ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 12:59:26 AM
If I go out in the desert and start my little factory out there in nowhere that is mine, the rest isnt. I guess the indians were doing shit on manhattan and because of it a deal could be made, if they didnt then it would cost nothing.
Wrong, you could go and stake a claim to it, but it doesnt belong to you as in you own it.
It depends what a court decides should someone else say it belongs to them.
In the UK you dont technically own land even if you think you do, the crown owns the land and can take it from you at any time.

Who "owns" the land is the person with the biggest stick.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 01:06:15 AM
Wrong, you could go and stake a calim to it, but it doesnt belong to you as in you own it.
It depends what a court decides should someone else say it belongs to them.
In the UK you dont technically own land even if you think you do, the crown owns the land and can take it from you at any time.

Who "owns" the land is the person with the biggest stick.

Im talking about a time before courts. Indians settling down on a few places doesnt mean they own the whole continent.
Bottom line is indians aint owned shit and nothing was stolen.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 01:09:44 AM
Im talking about a time before courts. Indians settling down on a few places doesnt mean they own the whole continent.
Bottom line is indians aint owned shit and nothing was stolen.

If they didnt own it then it wasnt theirs to sell then was it?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: bigmc on July 29, 2014, 01:11:51 AM
Wrong, you could go and stake a claim to it, but it doesnt belong to you as in you own it.
It depends what a court decides should someone else say it belongs to them.
In the UK you dont technically own land even if you think you do, the crown owns the land and can take it from you at any time.

Who "owns" the land is the person with the biggest stick.

you also cant do anything about historic rights of way etc

you will find in a lot of places people could legally drive their live stock through there

or walk through your garden without you being able to do shit
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Skorp1o on July 29, 2014, 01:16:11 AM
If they didnt own it then it wasnt theirs to sell then was it?

Good point

Sounds contradictory what he says, Indians were there when we got here, but its not theirs its ours now yet we just got here.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 01:21:05 AM
of course it wasnt indian land, they didnt had papers for it.. ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 01:21:28 AM
If they didnt own it then it wasnt theirs to sell then was it?

If they were using it they own it, if they didnt they didnt.

You get to a new continent, you settle and that part is yours, the rest isnt since you aint settle there.

Its the indians who claim ownership of land that either they didnt use or land that some indians took from other indians.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 01:23:54 AM
Im talking about a time before courts. Indians settling down on a few places doesnt mean they own the whole continent.
Bottom line is indians aint owned shit and nothing was stolen.



so i have a 5 rooms house . If i havent entered one of them in the last 5 years does that mean that it isnt mine and everybody could move in?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 29, 2014, 01:25:24 AM
maybe the native Indians did not need ownership consciousness as to them the Earth was Mother Earth. The right to ownership based on money and status is like a disease on the planet.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: SF1900 on July 29, 2014, 01:33:16 AM
All this does not matter because we are all half reptilian/half human.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 01:37:40 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Bevo on July 29, 2014, 01:38:20 AM
Now illegal Hispanics are entering the US cause they have the same mentality that they belong here cause the land was stolen from the Indians by the white man ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 01:40:58 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);

Terrorist Thread reported!

Land is owned by those who posses enough force to retain it.  Hope this helps.  You don't like the way nature works, that their are predators and prey, the strong and the weak, take it up with the Universe because no-one gives a shit about a miserable, backwards archaic people who love to play the victim because they are too stupid, unwilling or unable to create a decent life for themselves.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 01:47:50 AM
maybe the native Indians did not need ownership consciousness as to them the Earth was Mother Earth. The right to ownership based on money and status is like a disease on the planet.


Blah, Blah, Blah,that time has passed, what worked back then won't work now.  News flash, there are over 7 billion people on the planet, we can't simply allow a nomadic lifestyle where people live of the land.  Nice idyllic romantic fantasy, but that's all it is.  What are needed is systems, and that's what the West has and third world shitholes and some arab states lack.  They have allowed religion and ignorance to thwart their progress and we keep helping them try to wake the fuck up but the only thing they seem to respond to, and in Islam's case, seem to welcome us dropping bombs on their turbans.  Islam followers want to die and we like to grant their wish.  Match made in heaven, pardon the pun.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 29, 2014, 02:02:26 AM
Bleh, Bleh, Bleh,that time has passed, what worked back then won't work now.  News flash, there are over 7 billion people on the planet, we can't simply allow a nomadic lifestyle where people live of the land.  Nice idyllic romantic fantasy, but that's all it is.  What are needed is systems, and that's what the West has and third world shitholes and some arab states lack.  They have allowed religion and ignorance to thwart their progress and we keep helping them try to wake the fuck up but the only thing they seem to respond to, and in Islam's case, seem to welcome us dropping bombs on their turbans.  Islam followers want to die and we like to grant their wish.  Match made in heaven, pardon the pun.

Is that the sound of the sheep your fucking?



Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 03:25:36 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah,that time has passed, what worked back then won't work now.  News flash, there are over 7 billion people on the planet, we can't simply allow a nomadic lifestyle where people live of the land.  Nice idyllic romantic fantasy, but that's all it is.  What are needed is systems, and that's what the West has and third world shitholes and some arab states lack.  They have allowed religion and ignorance to thwart their progress and we keep helping them try to wake the fuck up but the only thing they seem to respond to, and in Islam's case, seem to welcome us dropping bombs on their turbans.  Islam followers want to die and we like to grant their wish.  Match made in heaven, pardon the pun.
define progress.. i think that native americans had the perfect life style , debate that
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 03:31:50 AM
Terrorist Thread reported!

Land is owned by those who posses enough force to retain it.  Hope this helps.  You don't like the way nature works, that their are predators and prey, the strong and the weak, take it up with the Universe because no-one gives a shit about a miserable, backwards archaic people who love to play the victim because they are too stupid, unwilling or unable to create a decent life for themselves.

This is a Satanic believe that does not differentiate animals from humans. It seems that the majority of the population wants to stay in low level of conciseness in order to justify cruelty.

Fact is that U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) come from Europe and did nothing more than kill the native population, steal the riches of the land and create a generation consumers who can't find Paris on the map.

Stealing from other, killing their children and labor, forcing them to adopt a different lifestyle is a crime and you can't find a logical way to justify it other than some social Darwinism based on eugenics.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 03:50:33 AM
This is a Satanic believe that does not differentiate animals from humans. It seems that the majority of the population wants to stay in low level of conciseness in order to justify cruelty.

Fact is that U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) come from Europe and did nothing more than kill the native population, steal the riches of the land and create a generation consumers who can't find Paris on the map.

Stealing from other, killing their children and labor, forcing them to adopt a different lifestyle is a crime and you can't find a logical way to justify it other than some social Darwinism based on eugenics.

They didnt kill the population, population died of disease.
They created the riches, they didnt steal it as there none to steal.
And americans might not find Paris on the map but french would have equal difficulty finding Washington.
As far as the noble savage native americans enslaved eachother, wared with eachother and some even had cannibal rituals.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 03:56:50 AM
This is a Satanic believe that does not differentiate animals from humans. It seems that the majority of the population wants to stay in low level of conciseness in order to justify cruelty.

Fact is that U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) come from Europe and did nothing more than kill the native population, steal the riches of the land and create a generation consumers who can't find Paris on the map.

Stealing from other, killing their children and labor, forcing them to adopt a different lifestyle is a crime and you can't find a logical way to justify it other than some social Darwinism based on eugenics.
Humans are animals.  Hope this helps.  Stop idealizing humanity, you seem to have absurd unrealistic expectations of humans.  They have always been and more than likely will always be savages. You seem to hate the colonisers (white men) who made it possible for you to lived comfortably while being a whiny self hating bitch.  Do you really think indigenous cultures would act any more nobly.  The fact is, Indians were also savages, who warred amongst themselves and weren't beyond cruelty, they used to chase families of buffaloes of cliffs amongst other sick, twisted practises.  It is only the deluded revisionists who have romanticized the Indian way of life.  It was a horrible existence and not one you would wish on your worst enemy.  I always think freedom and democracy is wasted on people like you, who are destined to hate themselves and take for granted every privilege you benefit from on a daily basis.  

And people are tired of all this conspiracy nonsense and labelling people as dwelling in a low level of consciousness blah blah blah.  We get it, you think you are onto something that everyone else is blind too.  Fact is, we know the world is a ball of shit, we just learned to accept it and get on with it long ago, you can choose to cry into your bowl of cereal every morning, the rest of us will just accept reality on it's own terms.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 03:58:13 AM
I blame it on kevin costner. >:(
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 04:01:38 AM
If they were using it they own it, if they didnt they didnt.

You get to a new continent, you settle and that part is yours, the rest isnt since you aint settle there.

Its the indians who claim ownership of land that either they didnt use or land that some indians took from other indians.

Lol, now you are just making stuff up
I use a payphone on the street, is it now mine?
I use weights in the gym, can I take them home with me?

Use has absolutly nothing to do with ownership.
I own an old garden bench I never use, but its still mine .
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Ropo on July 29, 2014, 04:04:33 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);


Dear potato head, learn your history: google land of Judea and the Hebrew Kingdome.  They both are more than 1500 years older than any muslim in the history of the world, so who really have the rights to Palestine? Ragheads who take the land from the jews, or jews who take it back?  
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 04:06:40 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 04:06:49 AM
define progress.. i think that native americans had the perfect life style , debate that
Are you fucking serious, they had a horrible existence you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.  They warred amongst each other, lived in harsh unforgiving conditions and barely eked out an existence.  You have been watching too many movies, the life of an American indian wasn't like living on some tropical Island.  Imagine living in a third world refugee camp and then times that by 1000, then you will begin to get an idea of what the life of an American Indian was like.  It short, it sucked.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 04:12:31 AM
Are you fucking serious, they had a horrible existence you wouldn't wish on your worst enemy.  They warred amongst each other, lived in harsh unforgiving conditions and barely eked out an existence.  You have been watching too many movies, the life of an American indian wasn't like living on some tropical Island.  Imagine living in a third world refugee camp and then times that by 1000, then you will begin to get an idea of what the life of an American Indian was like.  It short, it sucked.
well, in this case i guess it s ok that theyve been massacred (although i dont think their existence was much worse than that of people from sovereign country of serbia while they we re bombed in their homes against Un resolutions , or napalm frendly ingestion of cambodgians  etc)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 04:13:03 AM
Dear potato head, learn your history: google land of Judea and the Hebrew Kingdome.  They both are more than 1500 years older than any muslim in the history of the world, so who really have the rights to Palestine? Ragheads who take the land from the jews, or jews who take it back?  

Rights are simply things other people allow you to have.
inalienable/unalienable rights
Lol, give me a break
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Valley on July 29, 2014, 04:16:54 AM
There's never been an Arab country/state called Palestine, historically the Jews have lived there longer than the Arabs now trying to claim it, the area was a barren wilderness until recently, the Jews built the area up now the Muslims want to lay claim to it all, typical fckn muslims
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 04:20:02 AM
There's never been an Arab country/state called Palestine, historically the Jews have lived there longer than the Arabs now trying to claim it, the area was a barren wilderness until recently, the Jews built the area up now the Muslims want to lay claim to it all, typical fckn muslims
There's never been an US country/state called US, historically the natives americans have lived there longer than the european begger now trying to claim it, the area was a barren wilderness until recently, the natives built the area up now the european scum want to lay claim to it all, typical fckn americuans
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: thegamechanger on July 29, 2014, 04:23:48 AM
There's never been an US country/state called US, historically the natives americans have lived there longer than the european begger now trying to claim it, the area was a barren wilderness until recently, the natives built the area up now the european scum want to lay claim to it all, typical fckn americuans

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 04:25:33 AM
When did Westerners start to hate themselves so much.  People used to be proud of their ability to survive and thrive and overcome the odds and their enemies.  Now we are surrounded by whiny, self hating, imbeciles that want to suck the dick of people who hate and despise them and if they could would kill them.

Me, I'm grateful I'm on the winning side, for all those who pity the losers, fuck off and join them, you will find they hate you just as much as you hate yourself.
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Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2014, 04:33:04 AM
There's never been an Arab country/state called Palestine, historically the Jews have lived there longer than the Arabs now trying to claim it, the area was a barren wilderness until recently, the Jews built the area up now the Muslims want to lay claim to it all, typical fckn muslims
Wrong.
The issue is the Jews (zionists)that were given land there after ww2 by the British/Allies who have since stolen and taken by force peoples homes along with ethnic cleansing,
but people like you are brainwashed by the zionist mainstream media.

Palestinians and Jews there used to get along until the above.

Listen to the clip



And listen to this one, none of this is anti semite but it exposes the disgusting
behavior of money and power hungry Zionists



Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 04:38:57 AM
When did Westerners start to hate themselves so much.  People used to be proud of their ability to survive and thrive and overcome the odds and their enemies.  Now we are surrounded by whiny, self hating, imbeciles that want to suck the dick of people who hate and despise them and if they could would kill them.

Me, I'm grateful I'm on the winning side, for all those who pity the losers, fuck off and join them, you will find they hate you just as much as you hate yourself.
u re just creating a precedent that will justifiy your doom , its only a matter of time (maybe here are some native expressing their opinions, not only european beggers)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 29, 2014, 04:44:35 AM
Humans are animals.  Hope this helps.  Stop idealizing humanity, you seem to have absurd unrealistic expectations of humans.  They have always been and more than likely will always be savages. You seem to hate the colonisers (white men) who made it possible for you to lived comfortably while being a whiny self hating bitch.  Do you really think indigenous cultures would act any more nobly.  The fact is, Indians were also savages, who warred amongst themselves and weren't beyond cruelty, they used to chase families of buffaloes of cliffs amongst other sick, twisted practises.  It is only the deluded revisionists who have romanticized the Indian way of life.  It was a horrible existence and not one you would wish on your worst enemy.  I always think freedom and democracy is wasted on people like you, who are destined to hate themselves and take for granted every privilege you benefit from on a daily basis.  

And people are tired of all this conspiracy nonsense and labelling people as dwelling in a low level of consciousness blah blah blah.  We get it, you think you are onto something that everyone else is blind too.  Fact is, we know the world is a ball of shit, we just learned to accept it and get on with it long ago, you can choose to cry into your bowl of cereal every morning, the rest of us will just accept reality on it's own terms.  Hope this helps.

poor sheep getting brutally raped at your Aussie wanking party
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 05:02:50 AM
Humans are animals.  Hope this helps.  Stop idealizing humanity, you seem to have absurd unrealistic expectations of humans.  They have always been and more than likely will always be savages. You seem to hate the colonisers (white men) who made it possible for you to lived comfortably while being a whiny self hating bitch.  Do you really think indigenous cultures would act any more nobly.  The fact is, Indians were also savages, who warred amongst themselves and weren't beyond cruelty, they used to chase families of buffaloes of cliffs amongst other sick, twisted practises.  It is only the deluded revisionists who have romanticized the Indian way of life.  It was a horrible existence and not one you would wish on your worst enemy.  I always think freedom and democracy is wasted on people like you, who are destined to hate themselves and take for granted every privilege you benefit from on a daily basis.  

And people are tired of all this conspiracy nonsense and labelling people as dwelling in a low level of consciousness blah blah blah.  We get it, you think you are onto something that everyone else is blind too.  Fact is, we know the world is a ball of shit, we just learned to accept it and get on with it long ago, you can choose to cry into your bowl of cereal every morning, the rest of us will just accept reality on it's own terms.  Hope this helps.
after they killed the savages or before?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 05:15:14 AM
Wrong.
The issue is the Jews (zionists)that were given land there after ww2 by the British/Allies who have since stolen and taken by force peoples homes along with ethnic cleansing,
but people like you are brainwashed by the zionist mainstream media.

Palestinians and Jews there used to get along until the above.

Listen to the clip



And listen to this one, none of this is anti semite but it exposes the disgusting
behavior of money and power hungry Zionists





Finally someone who gets it. Thanks for the support.
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Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 05:49:50 AM
after they killed the savages or before?
Why the fuck are you crying over some dead savages?  Did you think the world was going to stay in a static state and the strong were going to acquiesce to the weak.  The way you libtards speak is retarded, it's like you are mad at a lion for killing an antelope.  Like I said, you can either accept nature or continue being a whiny bitch.  Strangely enough, I know which option you are going to choose.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 05:54:59 AM
Wrong.
The issue is the Jews (zionists)that were given land there after ww2 by the British/Allies who have since stolen and taken by force peoples homes along with ethnic cleansing,
but people like you are brainwashed by the zionist mainstream media.

Palestinians and Jews there used to get along until the above.

They used to get along until the ARABS realised they were starting to be outnumbered, their racist worldview then kicked into overdrive and they have been trying to make the Jews are minority again ever since.  If Hitler didn't try to exterminate the Jews this shit would have never happened.  ANd the Arabs sided with Hitler, so they have nobody but themselves to blame.  And regardless of the history, that doesn't give these twisted towelheads any right to use terrorism in their efforts to seek justice.  Fuck Palestine and it's  pedo worshipping camel jockey terrorist sympathising supporters.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: T-REX007 on July 29, 2014, 05:59:21 AM
NOBODY has given to the world what the USA has, if you think differently you are simply jealous, and like the rest of the world secretly WISH YOU LIVED HERE !
The USA saved the WORLD TWICE from enslavement, stopped communism, sends billions EVERYWHERE in humanitarian aid, gave the world on a mass scale electricity, automobiles, airplanes, telephone, internet,  advances in science, literature, REBUILT the world when we could have CONQUERED it, developed much of Africa and Latin America

The majority of the world should be kissin' our a-- for what we have done for them across the board big picture

The Jews have developed THEIR land, look at the rest of the ME compared to what they enjoy, they don't go around blowing innocent people up with terrorist suicide bombers, blowing up millennium old temples and shrines, treating women like animals, they want to be treated equally and fairly but don't ALLOW it to others do they ?

The Jews and the USA are very much alike you are correct - BOTH ARE SUCCESS STORIES !
 ;)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: TEH boob on July 29, 2014, 06:01:04 AM
NOBODY has given to the world what the USA has, if you think differently you are simply jealous, and like the rest of the world secretly WISH YOU LIVED HERE !
The USA saved the WORLD TWICE from enslavement, stopped communism, sends billions EVERYWHERE in humanitarian aid, gave the world on a mass scale electricity, automobiles, airplanes, telephone, internet,  advances in science, literature, REBUILT the world when we could have CONQUERED it, developed much of Africa and Latin America

The majority of the world should be kissin' our a-- for what we have done for them across the board big picture

The Jews have developed THEIR land, look at the rest of the ME compared to what they enjoy, they don't go around blowing innocent people up with terrorist suicide bombers, blowing up millennium old temples and shrines, treating women like animals, they want to be treated equally and fairly but don't ALLOW it to others do they ?

The Jews and the USA are very much alike you are correct - BOTH ARE SUCCESS STORIES !
 ;)

Umm....you realize that both Israelis and Palestinians are terrorists

The difference is that Israel has money while Palestinians don't
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: oldtimer1 on July 29, 2014, 06:03:40 AM
The Jews were given a hell hole of a place. They created Israel out of it with buildings and a striving economy. They produce doctors, engineers, lawyers, top shelf military, produce goods, quality education and have employment in so many fields. In Palestine they produce nothing. They live off the charity of Israel and they hate them. They see what the Jews have created and think if only they could have it. If they did it would be ruined in 6 months.

 Now there is talk of the US giving Palestine millions in assistance. Think they will use it to make their people's lot in life better? Then I have a bridge to sell you.

They don't value the lives of their own people and children using their homes to hide and launch weapons. When Israel tracks the origin of a rocket launch and destroys the house, the Palestinians parade their dead children in propaganda that this new liberal United States news providers eat up. They see death and destruction as an Holy obligation. In their schools they teach hate and death to the Jews.

The Jews are surrounded by countries that want their complete destruction. The only thing their enemies know is force. No words of negotiation is truly honored. The Jews always retaliate. Rightfully so.
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Post by: Your Average GymRat on July 29, 2014, 06:05:16 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);

You are going to Time Out.
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Post by: T-REX007 on July 29, 2014, 06:08:19 AM
EXACTLY my point !

The Jews have $ because they are a PROGRESSIVE PEOPLE !

THANKS for agreeing with me

 ;)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: DroppingPlates on July 29, 2014, 06:14:03 AM
Both countries apply various types of terrorist activities, and the same goes for Russia & China.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 06:15:21 AM
Umm....you realize that both Israelis and Palestinians are terrorists

The difference is that Israel has money while Palestinians don't
Fuck Off, we all know who the terrorists are !!! Standing up to terrorism IS NOT TERRORISM. If israel stopped fighting there would be a second holocaust on an unprecedented scale.  If the Palestinians stop fighting there will be peace.  

This blog by Intellectual Sam harris sums it up perfectly.  

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/why-dont-i-criticize-israel/ (http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/why-dont-i-criticize-israel/)

Podcast https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/160522369&color=ff5500 (https://w.soundcloud.com/player/?url=https%3A//api.soundcloud.com/tracks/160522369&color=ff5500)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: ProudVirgin69 on July 29, 2014, 06:19:42 AM
The Jews were given a hell hole of a place. They created Israel out of it with buildings and a striving economy. They produce doctors, engineers, lawyers, top shelf military, produce goods, quality education and have employment in so many fields. In Palestine they produce nothing. They live off the charity of Israel and they hate them. They see what the Jews have created and think if only they could have it. If they did it would be ruined in 6 months.

Israel also enjoyed billions of dollars in aid, I suspect that makes a difference
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 06:24:17 AM
Israel also enjoyed billions of dollars in aid, I suspect that makes a difference
I don't think so, look what happens with the billions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians, they remain in poverty, uneducated, they build terror tunnels and rocket launch sites and use their funds in their goal of eradicating Jews from the planet.  See the difference, one uses their money wisely (even builds bomb shelters and missile defence to protect their citizens), the other are ignorant, uneducated, religious zealots incapable of creating prosperity so therefore hate those that can.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Thin Lizzy on July 29, 2014, 06:29:27 AM
I don't think so, look what happens with the billions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians, they remain in poverty, uneducated, they build terror tunnels and rocket launch sites and use their funds in their goal of eradicating Jews from the planet.  See the difference, one uses their money wisely (even builds bomb shelters and missile defence to protect their citizens), the other are ignorant, uneducated, religious zealots incapable of creating prosperity so therefore hate those that can.

Well said.

Look at Hong Kong and Singapore, very little land and resources, yet they thrive despite the Great Satan.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2014, 06:37:35 AM
I don't think so, look what happens with the billions of dollars in aid to the Palestinians, they remain in poverty, uneducated, they build terror tunnels and rocket launch sites and use their funds in their goal of eradicating Jews from the planet.  See the difference, one uses their money wisely (even builds bomb shelters and missile defence to protect their citizens), the other are ignorant, uneducated, religious zealots incapable of creating prosperity so therefore hate those that can.
Listen to the first link in my post, it is long at just over an hour but it talks of the things you mention
here , you will surprisingly see you are wrong on all counts and the people talking are not "muslim scum" but Scottish , English,Australian and American.

Two with first hand experience in Israel and Palestine , they have seen it with there own eyes and not parroting what you say here which is zionist propaganda.

You don't have to put aside your hatred for Muslims here, but listen and be educated by truth , not smoke screens and lies  :)

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 06:57:13 AM
Why the fuck are you crying over some dead savages?  Did you think the world was going to stay in a static state and the strong were going to acquiesce to the weak.  The way you libtards speak is retarded, it's like you are mad at a lion for killing an antelope.  Like I said, you can either accept nature or continue being a whiny bitch.  Strangely enough, I know which option you are going to choose.
Whit that argument there s a lot of people who would say the same thing about 9/11, us soldiers in vietnam war , in siria, libia, irak etc. U say its normal for the strong to kill the weak yet u re outraged when  terrorists blow people up -isnt the same thing?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 07:01:01 AM
Whit that argument there s a lot of people who would say the same thing about 9/11, us soldiers in vietnam war , in siria, libia, irak etc. U say its normal for the strong to kill the weak yet u re outraged when  terrorists blow people up -isnt the same thing?
Who said I was crying for anybody.  I am simply pointing out that the Palestinians are terrorists and to cry for them and treat them as if they are victims is ludicrous.  Who cries for a bully when they get their arse kicked by their victims.  HAMAS has made no secret of their desire to perform genocide if they ever get the chance, yet crazy liberals still back them.  My only issue is that Israel doesn't do enough, wipe those dirty fucking arabs of the map I say.  I am sure it will happen eventually first we just need to win the PR war, which will eventually happen because a Muhammad is bringing a terrorist act to a suburb near you very soon.  Don't you worry about that.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 07:04:14 AM
Who said I was crying for anybody.  I am simply pointing out that the Palestinians are terrorists and to cry for them and treat them as if they are victims is ludicrous.  Who cries for a bully when they get their arse kicked by their victims.  HAMAS has made no secret of their desire to perform genocide if they ever get the chance, yet crazy liberals still back them.  My only issue is that Israel doesn't do enough, wipe those dirty fucking arabs of the map I say.  I am sure it will happen eventually first we just need to win the PR war, which will eventually happen because a Muhammad is bringing a terrorist act to a suburb near you very soon.  Don't you worry about that.
so why are u suporting israel and not arabs? whats the diference?  Hamas kills people because, as u say, the stronger kill the weaker.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 07:21:12 AM
so why are u suporting israel and not arabs? whats the diference?  Hamas kills people because, as u say, the stronger kill the weaker.
The difference being in this case is that  the strong (ISRAEL) actually want to use their force wisely, minimise casualties and the suffering of the innocent. The weak in this case care nothing for human life, will willingly sacrifice men, women and children for the cause, commit atrocities and evil acts all to fulfill some sick ideology that encourages them to commit genocidal acts against a race of people. 

And my issue isn't with the strong killing the weak, it is in the way it is portrayed and the willingness of naive and gullible Westerners to buy into the lies of mad, terrorist Muslims.  Hamas actually want their children to be killed for the cause, they proudly put them in harms way knowing when they are harmed or killed moron liberals everywhere will eat it up for breakfast and blame Israel rather than their crazy selves.  These Muslims may be dumb, but not so dumb that they don;t know how to use libers as useful idiots. 

But HAMAS is just the tip of the iceberg, other Muslim groups blow themselves up, and then send a terrorist to blown people up at the hospital they are sent too, they fly planes into building, bomb public railways, hijack planes, blow up nightclubs etc etc. This is not the side any decent human being should find themselves on.  If these are the types of people you support, you really need to have a good look in the mirror.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 07:23:53 AM
The difference being in this case is that  the strong (ISRAEL) actually want to use their force wisely, minimise casualties and the suffering of the innocent. The weak in this case care nothing for human life, will willingly sacrifice men, women and children for the cause, commit atrocities and evil acts all to fulfill some sick ideology that encourages them to commit genocidal acts against a race of people. 

And my issue isn't with the strong killing the weak, it is in the way it is portrayed and the willingness of naive and gullible Westerners to buy into the lies of mad, terrorist Muslims.  Hamas actually want their children to be killed for the cause, they proudly put them in harms way knowing when they are harmed or killed moron liberals everywhere will eat it up for breakfast and blame Israel rather than their crazy selves.  These Muslims may be dumb, but not so dumb that they don;t know how to use libers as useful idiots. 

But HAMAS is just the tip of the iceberg, other Muslim groups blow themselves up, and then send a terrorist to blown people up at the hospital they are sent too, they fly planes into building, bomb public railways, hijack planes, blow up nightclubs etc etc. This is not the side any decent human being should find themselves on.  If these are the types of people you support, you really need to have a good look in the mirror.
so u are ok with the strong (colonist) killing the weak (natives) , but u not approve the killings made by the weak (hamas, arabs) against the strong (israel) ? Well i think . objectively, that u are subjective (taking strong side) or there its something else?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 07:26:40 AM
Listen to the first link in my post, it is long at just over an hour but it talks of the things you mention
here , you will surprisingly see you are wrong on all counts and the people talking are not "muslim scum" but Scottish , English,Australian and American.

Two with first hand experience in Israel and Palestine , they have seen it with there own eyes and not parroting what you say here which is zionist propaganda.

You don't have to put aside your hatred for Muslims here, but listen and be educated by truth , not smoke screens and lies  :)


Oh, that's right, it's all the JOO's fault.  ::)  Why is it Jews can create an oasis out of a desert, a prosperous, functioning democracy all the while 1 billion JEWS want to kill them and their very neighbours terrorise and harass the population at every opportunity.  Yet the Palestinians, and many other Islamic shitholes can't do the same, with billions of dollars in aid and the support of libtards everywhere.  This sounds like the classic case of those that have failed look to cast blame everywhere else but where it belongs.  With themselves.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 07:29:24 AM
so why are u suporting israel and not arabs? whats the diference?  Hamas kills people because, as u say, the stronger kill the weaker.

If you accept that the stronger kills the weaker, you are degrading the human race to nothing more than another animal. Sorry, we have unique qualities that make us different than any other animal on this planet.

Also, there are very few animals that actually kill for pleasure - if there are any at all.

Are Jews somehow going to starve to death, if they finally get the fuck out of the land? No. They will be just fine controlling the Federal Reserve, the media and the brains of the masses. They just love wars because there is nothing more beneficial to a banker than wars. They want to justify billions of YOUR MONEY spent on military equipment.

You seem to be thinking like a Satanist which is a religion meant to worship the human ego and is also based on eugenics - the idea that the weak should die so that the 'strong' can rise to the top and lead humanity into glory.

This is wrong thinking because people are no Gods and you don't have the right to decide the destiny of other people. Nobody gives you rights to steal and kill other people. You can only have the right to do so if your own live is in danger. They speculate with that and created terrorism for the very same reason - to make people angry at the Muslims. Most of you are not even Americans. You are European immigrants who live on the bones of other nations.

It's easy to justify what is happening by just saying - they are terrorist who deserve it. Are they all good - no! But what about the Palestinian children who lose their parents, brothers, mothers, fathers, legs, arms, eyes in the war? The Zionists made all of this happen and prior to the end of the war Jews were living fine in Palestine.

How would you feel if somehow the Indians resurrect and start raping your mother, daughters, sons, killing them, exploding their heads, because they want their land back?

Until the military people finally educate themselves and start bending over like idiots nothing will happen. Until the soldiers start quitting their jobs realizing what they are doing - nothing will happen.

If you go back in time and ask Germans whether they approve the behavior of Hitler, most will say 'YES' because people are stupid and when you live just fine it's easy to stay and do nothing because it's not your fault.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 07:30:01 AM
so u are ok with the strong (colonist) killing the weak (natives) , but u not approve the killings made by the weak (hamas, arabs) against the strong (israel) ? Well i think . objectively, that u are subjective (taking strong side) or there its something else?
You don't even read my posts do you.  Crazy Muslims can terrorize the JEWS all they like(and I actually encourage them to do so), every time they kill a JEW, hundreds of mad muslims are done away with.  The more the terrorists persist the sooner we can bring about their demise.  Even libtards can support terrorism for so long before they realise their disease has got the better of them once more and their good intentions have killed far more people than had they done nothing.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: SuperTed on July 29, 2014, 07:38:40 AM
Why is everyone assuming that the only Palestinians that fight for the liberation of their country are Muslim fundamentalists?
Many are Arab moderates and secularists too. The PFLP was founded by a Christian Palestinian while even groups such as the Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade and Tanzim had prominent non-Muslim members.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: T-REX007 on July 29, 2014, 07:41:11 AM
Jews ALLOW AND WANT ALL THEIR PEOPLE to reach their full potential, Jews give the world so much - look at all the Nobel Prize winners, you NEVER see an unemployed Jew sucking off the system or on welfare, they do great in school, advance society and their communities, don't BLOW UP others with a different religious view, don't mutilate women, blow up schools for girls or kidnap them, again they PROMOTE PROGRESS JUST LIKE THE USA

Isn't a Democracy with POWER TO THE PEOPLE  a hallmark of a civilized society ? the ONLY DEMOCRATIC country in the Middle EAST is ...................... and it's DEVELOPED, PROSPEROUS, GOOD TO ALL IT'S CITIZENS, HMMMMMMMMMMMM WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 07:59:23 AM
If you accept that the stronger kills the weaker, you are degrading the human race to nothing more than another animal. Sorry, we have unique qualities that make us different than any other animal on this planet.
Your ego is astounding, we are simply animals, your desire for it to be otherwise is irrelevant.  And em, all animals are unique, that's what separates them, their uniqueness.  

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Also, there are very few animals that actually kill for pleasure - if there are any at all.

My cat kills things for pleasure all the time, and human beings aren't killing for pleasure, it's over resources dickhead.

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Are Jews somehow going to starve to death, if they finally get the fuck out of the land? No. They will be just fine controlling the Federal Reserve, the media and the brains of the masses. They just love wars because there is nothing more beneficial to a banker than wars. They want to justify billions of YOUR MONEY spent on military equipment.
 Where do you propose they go?  Nobody loves war moron, it's just part and parcel of existence. The JEWS just understand this and make the best of it

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You seem to be thinking like a Satanist which is a religion meant to worship the human ego and is also based on eugenics - the idea that the weak should die so that the 'strong' can rise to the top and lead humanity into glory.
 There is no GOD and there certainly is NO SATAN.  ANd you're EGO is so massive you think yourself and humanity is somehow special and higher than other animals.  The strong dominating the WEAK is simply a feature of nature.  I don't necessarily approve of it, it's just the way the world works.  You can either accept reality or not.  Your choice.

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This is wrong thinking because people are no Gods and you don't have the right to decide the destiny of other people.
Of Course we do.
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Nobody gives you rights to steal and kill other people.
Permission is not required.
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You can only have the right to do so if your own live is in danger.
Israel is in constant danger.  HAMAS has made it clear it wants to KILL ALL JEWS.
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They speculate with that and created terrorism for the very same reason - to make people angry at the Muslims.
Muslims don't need anyone else to convince us to hate them, they do a perfectly good job on their own.  Their practise of constant terrorism is enough for any decent human being to want to eliminate the ideology that encourages them to behave so.
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Most of you are not even Americans. You are European immigrants who live on the bones of other nations.
Quit crying you little bitch and grow the fuck up.

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It's easy to justify what is happening by just saying - they are terrorist who deserve it.
They are terrorists and they do deserve it.

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Are they all good - no! But what about the Palestinian children who lose their parents, brothers, mothers, fathers, legs, arms, eyes in the war?
What type of life is it for children to be raised by terrorists, taught to hate, taught to commit terrorist acts, used as human shields, refused an education and to live in a warzone.  They are better of dead.  Are you so cruel you want to see children raised under such conditions.

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The Zionists made all of this happen and prior to the end of the war Jews were living fine in Palestine.
They only got along while the Jews were a minority, the moment their population increased enough to make the Arabs uncomfortable they went to war with them.  This is all because the ARABS are not into multiculturalism, they think they are special and don't want to share.  If you observe closely there attitude is one of a spoilt child, demanding, selfish, rude, do anything to get there own way and when the adults refuse them their selfish desires they throw tantrums and terrorise the Adults.

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How would you feel if somehow the Indians resurrect and start raping your mother, daughters, sons, killing them, exploding their heads, because they want their land back?
 I would do exactly what the Israelis are dong but far worse.  I would support the utter annihilation of them and support any action in that direction.

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Until the military people finally educate themselves and start bending over like idiots nothing will happen. Until the soldiers start quitting their jobs realizing what they are doing - nothing will happen.
Holy fuck, I had no idea you were THIS naive.  If Israelis stop fighting the MUSLIMS will do far worse things to them than you could ever Imagine.  Basically what you just said was you support the genocide and eradication of every Jewish man, women and child in the middle east.  What a sick twisted human being you are, here you are arguing against innocent people being killed and then in the next breath you call for their annihilation.

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If you go back in time and ask Germans whether they approve the behavior of Hitler, most will say 'YES' because people are stupid and when you live just fine it's easy to stay and do nothing because it's not your fault.
Modern Germany doesn't support Hitler, they even banned NAZISM as it is a fascist ideology like ISLAM is.  The irony is the ARAB world supported HITLER and still do.  ISLAMIC ideology is no different than NAZI ideology, both call for the destruction of the Jewish people.  The saddest part of all of this is you have no idea the very arguments you are putting forward, like protecting innocents, how Hitler was wrong etc etc, is the opposite to what you support.  You support a regime that wants a second holocaust and has openly said they will do it if they have a chance.  You support a regime that if given a chance would install a fascist dictatorship that removes freedom of expression and speech, oppresses women, abhors human rights, abuses children, practises terrorism and hates you and the whole of the Western World.  
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SUPPORT SUCH EVIL????
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 08:08:20 AM
You don't even read my posts do you.  Crazy Muslims can terrorize the JEWS all they like(and I actually encourage them to do so), every time they kill a JEW, hundreds of mad muslims are done away with.  The more the terrorists persist the sooner we can bring about their demise.  Even libtards can support terrorism for so long before they realise their disease has got the better of them once more and their good intentions have killed far more people than had they done nothing.
its a never ending war.. what u re talking about? Judging your rationament i dont understand why u dont support terorism? what do u really want? Why do u take side of a killer and not of the other, its all random or what?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 08:10:51 AM
Your ego is astounding, we are simply animals, your desire for it to be otherwise is irrelevant.  And em, all animals are unique, that's what separates them, their uniqueness.  
 
My cat kills things for pleasure all the time, and human beings aren't killing for pleasure, it's over resources dickhead.
  Where do you propose they go?  Nobody loves war moron, it's just part and parcel of existence. The JEWS just understand this and make the best of it
  There is no GOD and there certainly is NO SATAN.  ANd you're EGO is so massive you think yourself and humanity is somehow special and higher than other animals.  The strong dominating the WEAK is simply a feature of nature.  I don't necessarily approve of it, it's just the way the world works.  You can either accept reality or not.  Your choice.
 Of Course we do. Permission is not required. Israel is in constant danger.  HAMAS has made it clear it wants to KILL ALL JEWS.Muslims don't need anyone else to convince us to hate them, they do a perfectly good job on their own.  Their practise of constant terrorism is enough for any decent human being to want to eliminate the ideology that encourages them to behave so.Quit crying you little bitch and grow the fuck up.
 They are terrorists and they do deserve it.
 What type of life is it for children to be raised by terrorists, taught to hate, taught to commit terrorist acts, used as human shields, refused an education and to live in a warzone.  They are better of dead.  Are you so cruel you want to see children raised under such conditions.
They only got along while the Jews were a minority, the moment their population increased enough to make the Arabs uncomfortable they went to war with them.  This is all because the ARABS are not into multiculturalism, they think they are special and don't want to share.  If you observe closely there attitude is one of a spoilt child, demanding, selfish, rude, do anything to get there own way and when the adults refuse them their selfish desires they throw tantrums and terrorise the Adults.
  I would do exactly what the Israelis are dong but far worse.  I would support the utter annihilation of them and support any action in that direction.
Holy fuck, I had no idea you were THIS naive.  If Israelis stop fighting the MUSLIMS will do far worse things to them than you could ever Imagine.  Basically what you just said was you support the genocide and eradication of every Jewish man, women and child in the middle east.  What a sick twisted human being you are, here you are arguing against innocent people being killed and then in the next breath you call for their annihilation.
Modern Germany doesn't support Hitler, they even banned NAZISM as it is a fascist ideology like ISLAM is.  The irony is the ARAB world supported HITLER and still do.  ISLAMIC ideology is no different than NAZI ideology, both call for the destruction of the Jewish people.  The saddest part of all of this is you have no idea the very arguments you are putting forward, like protecting innocents, how Hitler was wrong etc etc, is the opposite to what you support.  You support a regime that wants a second holocaust and has openly said they will do it if they have a chance.  You support a regime that if given a chance would install a fascist dictatorship that removes freedom of expression and speech, oppresses women, abhors human rights, abuses children, practises terrorism and hates you and the whole of the Western World.  
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SUPPORT SUCH EVIL????

but americana (nato ) bombed a sovereign country against UN resolution- doesnt that make it a terrorist state? How do u propose a weaker party fight a stronger one if not by terrorism? Should all just surrender or what?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 08:32:36 AM
but americana (nato ) bombed a sovereign country against UN resolution- doesnt that make it a terrorist state? How do u propose a weaker party fight a stronger one if not by terrorism? Should all just surrender or what?
What can they do, does the deer have any choice after the Lion has selected it for it's next meal.  It can try to evade and baulk, but if it can't flee the attack, then it must accept it's fate.  It's a cold world we live in.  The other alternative is for the weak to ally with the strong or become stronger itself.  Crying in the corner does nothing to change the situation.

I'm Australian by the way, but as a weaker Country we were smart enough to ally with the Americans.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 08:37:10 AM
its a never ending war.. what u re talking about? Judging your rationament i dont understand why u dont support terorism? what do u really want? Why do u take side of a killer and not of the other, its all random or what?
It's only never ending because the Israelis are TOO COMPASSIONATE.  Had they the mindset of the Palestinians they would simply eradicate the other of the map altogether.  ISRAEL could easily kill every man, women and child Palestinian but it's moral compass prevents it from doing so.  The same could never be said of the other side, who actually wrote A charter OUTLINING THEIR DESIRE TO KILL EVERY JEW ON THE PLANET.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: T-REX007 on July 29, 2014, 08:59:25 AM
Somebody should conduct a poll of European nations asking them who THEY want for neighbors and who THEY would WANT to emigrate to their countries - Americans and Jews or Arabs - I wonder how the average European would respond ?

Ask the average European or ANYBODY IN THE WORLD who they would rather have for neighbors - millions of Jews or Arabs ?  ;D

We all KNOW what the answer would be, don't we ?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: da_vinci on July 29, 2014, 09:01:05 AM
Fuckin' arab.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 09:24:01 AM
Somebody should conduct a poll of European nations asking them who THEY want for neighbors and who THEY would WANT to emigrate to their countries - Americans and Jews or Arabs - I wonder how the average European would respond ?

Ask the average European or ANYBODY IN THE WORLD who they would rather have for neighbors - millions of Jews or Arabs ?  ;D

We all KNOW what the answer would be, don't we ?
yeah, ask the germans in 33
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: loco on July 29, 2014, 09:32:18 AM
U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

U.S. killed Patel and Gupta, and took their lands?  I thought that was the British Empire.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 09:48:26 AM
U.S. killed Patel and Gupta, and took their lands?  I thought that was the British Empire.
us killed almost anything theyve been in contact with. But they didnt kille patel and gupta, the british empire did. The confusion its made because native americans are also called indians because Columbus searched an alternative route to india and mistakenly found America instead, from here erroneusly naming the native americans - indians. Now fuck off
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Post by: Simple Simon on July 29, 2014, 09:52:12 AM
e-kul will be 3rd place in the 'weekly mates wank tally' this week due to his increased posting frequency in this thread
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: loco on July 29, 2014, 09:53:08 AM
us killed almost anything theyve been in contact with. But they didnt kille patel and gupta, the british empire did. The confusion its made because native americans are also called indians because Columbus searched an alternative route to india and mistakenly found America instead, from here erroneusly naming the native americans - indians. Now fuck off

They are Native Americans, not Indians.  God bless you too!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: polychronopolous on July 29, 2014, 10:07:04 AM
They are Native Americans, not Indians.  God bless you too!

There is no concrete answer.

Some prefer Native American. Some prefer Indian. Then you can literally get several hundred different responses as others prefer their Tribal or Nation name.

I've driven through several reservations and typically when I see a school I see "Indian" in front of it so for many I suppose they can't find that term too offensive.

(http://api.ning.com/files/E0fKCJFuh9U9p6S4HsMaYxVPc6WgLT2AspPXyfdxVrKubobRB83ukfsf18d4XUzzmS4L83L5TMQ9BqqdMAcuA34viIP3ol46/ChemawaIndianSchool003.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: MCWAY on July 29, 2014, 10:10:05 AM
Dear potato head, learn your history: google land of Judea and the Hebrew Kingdome.  They both are more than 1500 years older than any muslim in the history of the world, so who really have the rights to Palestine? Ragheads who take the land from the jews, or jews who take it back?  

I wish Israel would just end it and blast Palestine and Hamas into oblivion. They want holy war; they want Jihad? GIVE IT TO THEM!!

It's the same old crap. Palestinians and Hamas  start popping off at the mouth about holy war and the Jews' blood, flowing through the streets, while firing rockets into their cities

Yet when Israel has had it and starts beating their @$$&$, they cry like sissies and run to the UN.

It's like someone, going to gym, calling a 300-lb monster a homo and slapping him in the face, only to act surprised when he pounds you into the floor and sends you to the hospital.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: DanielPaul on July 29, 2014, 10:15:26 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);

this^
We have a tattered history for sure , there is no denying that.  The problem with you and your people , I'm assuming your Muslim or of Arabic descent , is anytime your given an inch you feel the need to sacrifice all you have just to take a mile.  My heart goes out to those people who are needlessly put in the middle of this by people they trust, I pray for them and I pray that all this comes to a peaceful end.  As for you, I'll bet it burns your ass to know that this big melting pot of ideas and understanding and respect for each other that we have developed here in the US could at any point if we choose destroy everything you had you have or ever will have in the blink of an eye.  We could take every piece of evidence that you , your Arab people your Muslim god have left on this earth and wipe it away and be home in time to watch Sunday night football.  But we choose not to because we believe no matter how retarded you beliefs are you have just as much right to exist as we do.  But don't push your fucking luck.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 10:29:45 AM
I wish Israel would just end it and blast Palestine and Hamas into oblivion. They want holy war; they want Jihad? GIVE IT TO THEM!!

It's the same old crap. Palestinians and Hamas  start popping off at the mouth about holy war and the Jews' blood, flowing through the streets, while firing rockets into their cities

Yet when Israel has had it and starts beating their @$$&$, they cry like sissies and run to the UN.

It's like someone, going to gym, calling a 300-lb monster a homo and slapping him in the face, only to act surprised when he pounds you into the floor and sends you to the hospital.
x2
Many people resent power because they themselves don't possess it and hate themselves because of it.  The libtards and Palestinian supporters are the types to resent a lion for killing a deer.  They don't see wonderful nature at work, they resent the lion's power and identify with the weakness of it's prey.  Muslims make me laugh, they rave on like they are all powerful and kings of the world, and the moment they are challenged they get their arses kicked from pillar to post.  They are an embarrassment to themselves, completely incapable of recognising their overt weakness that the rest of the world sees as clear as day.  The entire Islamic world could be considered connected to a mass delusion.  These are a people deeply disconnected from reality.

I find it hilarious how they all rave on about how they love death more than the jew loves life, so when the jews give them what they want they all cry like little bitches.  There is no pleasing some people, they beg for death, and when you give them what they want, they still aren't happy.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 10:59:52 AM
x2
Many people resent power because they themselves don't possess it and hate themselves because of it.  The libtards and Palestinian supporters are the types to resent a lion for killing a deer.  They don't see wonderful nature at work, they resent the lion's power and identify with the weakness of it's prey.  Muslims make me laugh, they rave on like they are all powerful and kings of the world, and the moment they are challenged they get their arses kicked from pillar to post.  They are an embarrassment to themselves, completely incapable of recognising their overt weakness that the rest of the world sees as clear as day.  The entire Islamic world could be considered connected to a mass delusion.  These are a people deeply disconnected from reality.

I find it hilarious how they all rave on about how they love death more than the jew loves life, so when the jews give them what they want they all cry like little bitches.  There is no pleasing some people, they beg for death, and when you give them what they want, they still aren't happy.

You my friend are some of the lowest scum on Earth. Enjoy your miserable little insect life.

And I hope you get to see the torture done on those people happen to you. You will be talking completely different.

In the meanwhile enjoy your easy life where you try to justify your inactivity while eating and doing muscle worship.

You are just looking for ways to justify the fact that you are a selfish egoistical brain dead materialist. If it was WW2 you would be probably one of those guys who tortured people in gas chambers because 'you enjoy your power'.

Seriously with the exception of a few people this forum seems to be practically taken over by low level of consciousness scum which has too much time.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 11:02:12 AM
You my friend and one of the lowest scum on Earth. Enjoy your miserable little insect life.
You and I are not friends.  And I am especially enjoying Israel's utter domination of Muslims, owning their minds the world over.  Good for them.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
You and I are not friends.  And I am especially enjoying Israel's utter domination of Muslims, owning their minds the world over.  Good for them.

Read my post again. I added more about you, little insect.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 11:14:48 AM
Read my post again. I added more about you, little insect.
;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 11:15:52 AM
(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/auth-hamas.png)

(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hamas_cartoon.jpg)

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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-S84UKlGc08E/Uqdyx_cAK5I/AAAAAAAAP3s/IwXtyB5P7Pg/s640/islam.jpg)

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: _bruce_ on July 29, 2014, 11:22:42 AM
It's basically a problem between sandmonkoids and the west has been towed into it thanks to some chooish supremacists.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
(http://progressivecynic.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/584c1-differencebetweenisraelandhamas.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: _bruce_ on July 29, 2014, 11:35:56 AM
Btw, AnusRa. E Kul is not so far off the truth. I hope Israel grinds these insects with the boot of technology.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: SuperTed on July 29, 2014, 11:40:40 AM
x2
Many people resent power because they themselves don't possess it and hate themselves because of it.  The libtards and Palestinian supporters are the types to resent a lion for killing a deer.  They don't see wonderful nature at work, they resent the lion's power and identify with the weakness of it's prey. 

So I imagine you view the holocaust in a similar way? The powerful lion (the Nazi's) sinking his teeth into the weaker deer (the Jews).
Nature at work.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 11:45:14 AM
Btw, AnusRa. E Kul is not so far off the truth. I hope Israel grinds these insects with the boot of technology.

so at one point in history israelits were the strongest in the region and was normal (natural) to kill everybody else. Then at some other point in history the arabs were the mightiest and was normal to kill everybode  else. Now israel is back again the strongest force in the region and is normal that they are killing the insects , but if the insect are tryng to fight back (via terrorism as they dont have money= tanks) its outrageous. How do explain this syllogism from a sane mind perspective?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 29, 2014, 11:47:00 AM
So I imagine you view the holocaust in a similar way? The powerful lion (the Nazi's) sinking his teeth into the weaker deer (the Jews).
Nature at work.
yup.. and if the deer was tryng to fight back (probably by bombing up concentration camps aka terrorism) they  ve would been bashed in the media by open minds like e kunt..what a piece of shit trol it is
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Post by: _bruce_ on July 29, 2014, 11:51:37 AM
so at one point in history israelits were the strongest in the region and was normal (natural) to kill everybody else. Then at some other point in history the arabs were the mightiest and was normal to kill everybode  else. Now israel is back again the strongest force in the region and is normal that they are killing the insects , but if the insect are tryng to fight back (via terrorism as they dont have money= tanks) its outrageous. How do explain this syllogism from a sane mind perspective?

It's not outrageous if Hamabusa attack - they should fight as much as they can, but I do not feel obliged to be on their team. From my perspective I rather see the Israelis kill off these people. Having been around them and knowing their stories and attitudes I side with the choobaccas(the brown ones not the eastern Europe choos). Do I want any of this - no. Here in Eurabia you have constant pressure from official media and fellow leftist machinery that the Israelis are the murderers and the people from Jordan are the victims.
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Post by: Wiggs on July 29, 2014, 11:51:39 AM
AmonRa,

I like your work. Keep it up.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on July 29, 2014, 12:14:58 PM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);

You my friend, are misinformed and delusional.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 12:25:07 PM
AmonRa,

I like your work. Keep it up.

Thank you for the support.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 12:27:07 PM
If I was 10 years younger I would probably get real mad now and post a 5 page post about how you are all wrong but I won't because I know better.

I know that there will be a few people that will read the thread and see who's right and who's wrong. There are always a few people who see through. Some of them will not even post and probably don't even have accounts here. However, those are the ones it's worth writing for.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: loco on July 29, 2014, 01:03:53 PM
There is no concrete answer.

Some prefer Native American. Some prefer Indian. Then you can literally get several hundred different responses as others prefer their Tribal or Nation name.

I've driven through several reservations and typically when I see a school I see "Indian" in front of it so for many I suppose they can't find that term too offensive.

Are Indians form India offended by this?
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Post by: headhuntersix on July 29, 2014, 01:06:10 PM
 ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on July 29, 2014, 01:08:12 PM
If I was 10 years younger I would probably get real mad now and post a 5 page post about how you are all wrong but I won't because I know better.

I know that there will be a few people that will read the thread and see who's right and who's wrong. There are always a few people who see through. Some of them will not even post and probably don't even have accounts here. However, those are the ones it's worth writing for.
shut the fuck up then you little K.unt.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: MikMaq on July 29, 2014, 01:19:43 PM
In Israel they say america runs everything.

In American they say the jews run everything.

In Palestine they say the americans always favor the jews.

In canada they say its cold for six months of the year.

In Iran they say homosexuals are awsome.

Which of these is false ???

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: liquid_c on July 29, 2014, 01:22:23 PM
This shit has been going on for as long as I can remember.  It always is pretty much the same thing:

1. Hamas keeps shooting rockets/suicide bombing Israel.  
2. Israel finally gets tired of it and sends their army in.
3. Hamas like always gets its ass kicked and cries for a cease fire.
4. Israel backs off, Hamas rebuilds and the process starts over again.

This will not end until one of two things happens:
Israel goes in and "it will be brutal" blows Hamas into oblivion to the point where it will be very difficult or impossible to rebuild.  This would involve pretty much wiping out most if not all of Palestine.  
Israel decides to kill itself or completely leave the region.  
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on July 29, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
This shit has been going on for as long as I can remember.  It always is pretty much the same thing:

1. Hamas keeps shooting rockets/suicide bombing Israel.  
2. Israel finally gets tired of it and sends their army in.
3. Hamas like always gets its ass kicked and cries for a cease fire.
4. Israel backs off, Hamas rebuilds and the process starts over again.

This will not end until one of two things happens:
Israel goes in and "it will be brutal" blows Hamas into oblivion to the point where it will be very difficult or impossible to rebuild.  This would involve pretty much wiping out most if not all of Palestine.  
Israel decides to kill itself or completely leave the region.  
or, one day, muslims use a dirty bomb, or muslim countries militaries attack isrqel again only to see their asses kicked....again.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: polychronopolous on July 29, 2014, 01:37:11 PM
Are Indians form India offended by this?

I have no idea, never been to India.

I do have family on my fathers side from Oklahoma so I had Indian friends(that's what they called themselves) growing up.

My cousin even married one and has his Indian last name now. He told me he could go back to Oklahoma and live pretty much for free but basically doesn't want much to do with anybody up there except for visiting on the Holidays and stuff like that.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Conker on July 29, 2014, 01:40:33 PM
i remember when obama first came to office he was talking big, publicly stating that there would have to be 2 state solution based on 1967 borders, netanyhu basically told him he was an idiot and didn't understand the situation. i think obama must have got a dressing down from his handlers because he has never dared to mention anything like that ever again.
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Post by: SuperTed on July 29, 2014, 01:43:21 PM
::)

Not sure what relevance that pic has in this topic.
Pretty sure the Crusaders hated Jews.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 29, 2014, 01:47:25 PM
Not sure what relevance that pic has in this topic.
Pretty sure the Crusaders hated Jews.

He's an American soldier.

Forgive him.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: SuperTed on July 29, 2014, 01:49:30 PM
He's an American soldier.

Forgive him.

 :D ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 29, 2014, 02:30:56 PM
Ha! No one mentions the seven year blockade.  Shelves are bare, no medical supplies. people living in a ghetto and you wonder why they elected Hamas? The jews took a page from  the Nazis.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 29, 2014, 02:42:43 PM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 29, 2014, 02:44:54 PM
Ha! No one mentions the seven year blockade.  Shelves are bare, no medical supplies. people living in a ghetto and you wonder why they elected Hamas? The jews took a page from  the Nazis.

Epic understanding of the situation. Peace for who?

Its the people in Gaza who live under siege, with basic provisions being prevented from entering the area...ultimately dying a slow death. The Jews are acting like Nazi's. 

It was Israel that broke the ceasefire in November 2012, you can check the U.N figures. For 3 months, not one rocket left Gaza...yet Israel bombed Gaza several times.

;)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 29, 2014, 02:47:02 PM
AmonRa,

I like your work. Keep it up.

Hey Wiggs would U bang his 'baby mama'  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Voice of Doom on July 29, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
without private property there can be no liberty.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The Scott on July 29, 2014, 04:04:00 PM
The guilt of centuries rests on land.  It needs burying.

As for the Jews and the land they now own/occupy?  They have actually done good with it whereas if it were in the stewardship of certain others it would be naught but a blight upon itself because some people are too ignorant to better themselves let alone their surroundings.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 06:19:14 PM
So I imagine you view the holocaust in a similar way? The powerful lion (the Nazi's) sinking his teeth into the weaker deer (the Jews).
Nature at work.
Yes, exactly.  And like I said, you can do one of four things.

1) Accept your fate (which many of the Jews did at the time),
2) Ally with the stronger party (Hitler would have never allowed such a thing)
3) Become stronger yourself
4) Ally with a stronger force than your enemy (which is what the Jews did and they chose the winning side, the victory came a little late, but better late than never, they survived)  

Israel (The Jews) chose the third and forth option and they did a pretty good job of it.  Props to them
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 06:30:18 PM
Ha! No one mentions the seven year blockade.  Shelves are bare, no medical supplies. people living in a ghetto and you wonder why they elected Hamas? The jews took a page from  the Nazis.
Yeah, because Hamas was going to supply those essentials.   ::).  They elected HAMAS because they are a delusional people, they want to eradicate the Jews and they are stupid enough to believe a bunch of illiterate camel jockeys can get the job done.  Comparing the jews to the Nazis is the most insane and offensive proposition, especially since HAMAS has made no secret of their desire to bring on the second holocaust if they are given the chance, they actually wrote it in their charter.  SO even when a group openly declares it's desire to kill all Jews, to create a second holocaust, the Jews get labelled the NAZIS.  WTF???  Anti-semitism runs so deep that even when 1 billion muslims declare their desire to kill all Jews, the Jew is still somehow at fault.  What a sick worldview the libtard has.
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Post by: tu_holmes on July 29, 2014, 06:32:21 PM
The difference... You're welcome.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 06:32:28 PM
Ha! No one mentions the seven year blockade.  Shelves are bare, no medical supplies. people living in a ghetto and you wonder why they elected Hamas? The jews took a page from  the Nazis.
Yeah because the Jews should feed, clothe and finance the people trying to desperately kill, terrorise and eradicate them.   ::)  OH Brother, give me a break.  

And how anyone can compare the Jews to the Nazis is the most absurd and ridiculous suggestion, especially since it is the ARABS who supported Hitler, and HAMAS even wrote in their charter that they plan on committing the second holocaust if they are able and exterminate every last jewish man, woman and child.  Even when the Muslim world tells everyone they desire a second holocaust, the jews get called the NAZIS.  Go figure, but who can understand the libtard mindset.

I can only wish the JEWS would take a leaf out of the HITLER handbook and exterminate Palestine for good.  Then we might finally get some peace around here.  Because we all know the terrorist palestinians aren't going to stop being terrorists, aren't going to stop trying to exterminate the Jewish race,so the Jews may as well get this shit over with and let libtards everywhere call them HITLER.
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Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 29, 2014, 07:08:31 PM
A lot of very fine weaponry in Jewish possession.  :(
Hamas will end up like PLO, cornered by Jews.  :P
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 29, 2014, 07:55:50 PM
Yeah because the Jews should feed, clothe and finance the people trying to desperately kill, terrorise and eradicate them.   ::)  OH Brother, give me a break.  

And how anyone can compare the Jews to the Nazis is the most absurd and ridiculous suggestion, especially since it is the ARABS who supported Hitler, and HAMAS even wrote in their charter that they plan on committing the second holocaust if they are able and exterminate every last jewish man, woman and child.  Even when the Muslim world tells everyone they desire a second holocaust, the jews get called the NAZIS.  Go figure, but who can understand the libtard mindset.

I can only wish the JEWS would take a leaf out of the HITLER handbook and exterminate Palestine for good.  Then we might finally get some peace around here.  Because we all know the terrorist palestinians aren't going to stop being terrorists, aren't going to stop trying to exterminate the Jewish race,so the Jews may as well get this shit over with and let libtards everywhere call them HITLER.


Your arguments don't hold any water.   Why the blockade??  To prevent weapons from getting into Gaza, well that's just working out great isn't it.  Hamas isn't going to run out of rockets any time soon.  the only people suffering are the Palestinians, ordinary folks just trying to get by, so why keep the blockade up?  Because this is how you crush a people.  You wall up a city, restrict movement, cut off supplies, force people to live in squalid conditions, put an economic stranglehold on it... Let me try and think who did that recently... Oh wait it was the Nazis!  everybody is falling over themselves not to offend the poor jew because of the holocaust so they get a free pass on this shit.  Palestine is an occupied territory  Would you kiss the hand of your occupiers?? (maybe you would).

Remember the ships that were sent by some organizations filled with simple every day items like canned foods, medical supplies, clothing and blankets?  The Isrealis could easily have search those ships for weapons if they wanted to but they decided to be Kunts and turned it back.  Letting them through would mean the blockade had no validity.  If the blockade ends all this nonsense ends.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: catracho on July 29, 2014, 08:37:36 PM
Ha! No one mentions the seven year blockade.  Shelves are bare, no medical supplies. people living in a ghetto and you wonder why they elected Hamas? The jews took a page from  the Nazis.
Doesn't egypt also have a blockade against Hamas?  Aren't they Muslims?  I guess they are now Nazis also.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 29, 2014, 09:32:44 PM

Your arguments don't hold any water.   Why the blockade??  To prevent weapons from getting into Gaza, well that's just working out great isn't it.  Hamas isn't going to run out of rockets any time soon.  the only people suffering are the Palestinians, ordinary folks just trying to get by, so why keep the blockade up?  Because this is how you crush a people.  You wall up a city, restrict movement, cut off supplies, force people to live in squalid conditions, put an economic stranglehold on it... Let me try and think who did that recently... Oh wait it was the Nazis!  everybody is falling over themselves not to offend the poor jew because of the holocaust so they get a free pass on this shit.  Palestine is an occupied territory  Would you kiss the hand of your occupiers?? (maybe you would).

Remember the ships that were sent by some organizations filled with simple every day items like canned foods, medical supplies, clothing and blankets?  The Israelis could easily have search those ships for weapons if they wanted to but they decided to be Kunts and turned it back.  Letting them through would mean the blockade had no validity.  If the blockade ends all this nonsense ends.
What a load of absolute rubbish.  First of, Palestine isn't an occupied territory.  Let's say the indigenous population of my country decided they could start terrorizing the population based on some wild claim we are occupying their land.  Do you think we are going to stand for it, do you think we are going to clothe, house, cure these people?  No we are going to crush the absolute shit out of them like they deserve.  

The Nazis didn't do what israel did, without provocation they forced the JEWS into concentration camps and eventually killed them en masse, one can only hope israel will eventually do this to the Palestinians, as it is probably the best solution.    
 
And WTF? If the blockade end all this nonsense ends.  You must be the most naive person on the planet to think that.  HAMAS has a charter to wipe out the JEWS, Palestine has constantly rejected GOOD deals in favor of pursuing their final solution, to eradicate all JEWS from the planet.  Let's see who last tried to do that, oh that's right, it was HITLER.

And if need to ask "WHY the blockade?", then you're an idiot.  Only a fool would help his enemy amass enough power to carry out the threat of the total annihilation of his entire race.  The whole things ends when Muslims stop terrorising the whole world to meet their ridiculous demands with the support of Western Libtards everywhere.

I don't know who we should build Gulags for first, the Palestinians or the crazy libtards that support them.

Imagine the Israelis actually decide to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, it would make their current actions look like they are throwing a tea party for Palestine.  Personally, I hope they do, the attempted genocide of the jews by Hitler was seen as an unprovoked act.  No decent, reasonable human being could blame Israel for wiping out the palestinian people.  They have tolerated over half a century of terrorism and their attempted extermination.  I say the time is right to end this thing once and for all.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: daddy8ball on July 29, 2014, 09:50:08 PM
Stolen land?

 :D

History Rule #1: Land belongs to those who can keep it.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2014, 11:17:01 PM
What a load of absolute rubbish.  First of, Palestine isn't an occupied territory.  Let's say the indigenous population of my country decided they could start terrorizing the population based on some wild claim we are occupying their land.  Do you think we are going to stand for it, do you think we are going to clothe, house, cure these people?  No we are going to crush the absolute shit out of them like they deserve.  

The Nazis didn't do what israel did, without provocation they forced the JEWS into concentration camps and eventually killed them en masse, one can only hope israel will eventually do this to the Palestinians, as it is probably the best solution.    
 
And WTF? If the blockade end all this nonsense ends.  You must be the most naive person on the planet to think that.  HAMAS has a charter to wipe out the JEWS, Palestine has constantly rejected GOOD deals in favor of pursuing their final solution, to eradicate all JEWS from the planet.  Let's see who last tried to do that, oh that's right, it was HITLER.

And if need to ask "WHY the blockade?", then you're an idiot.  Only a fool would help his enemy amass enough power to carry out the threat of the total annihilation of his entire race.  The whole things ends when Muslims stop terrorising the whole world to meet their ridiculous demands with the support of Western Libtards everywhere.

I don't know who we should build Gulags for first, the Palestinians or the crazy libtards that support them.

Imagine the Israelis actually decide to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, it would make their current actions look like they are throwing a tea party for Palestine.  Personally, I hope they do, the attempted genocide of the jews by Hitler was seen as an unprovoked act.  No decent, reasonable human being could blame Israel for wiping out the palestinian people.  They have tolerated over half a century of terrorism and their attempted extermination.  I say the time is right to end this thing once and for all.

Dude you are so far wrong it's becoming embarrassing - you are parroting the exact bullshit the Zionist propaganda
machine has fed you - all your facts are WRONG!!!

Watch these vids and educate yourself, please.

Funny you should mention the holocaust , you do know Zionist Jews were behind that right ? of course you wont because your facts are wrong , not one thing you have typed is fact , just what you have been told by a very shrewd propaganda machine.

Again watch these vids and learn and then you will see just how far from the point you really are.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 29, 2014, 11:21:33 PM


Great video of actual FACT..

Really you guys spouting off absolute bullshit need to educate yourselfs .

Watch,listen and learn or shut the fuck up with this puppet crap.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Novena on July 30, 2014, 12:21:02 AM
What's the difference between the US and Israel?

I have some thoughts on this.  I relate them below in two postings.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Novena on July 30, 2014, 12:23:05 AM
I may have strayed on the last two.  Sorry.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 01:13:04 AM
Dude you are so far wrong it's becoming embarrassing - you are parroting the exact bullshit the Zionist propaganda
machine has fed you - all your facts are WRONG!!!

Watch these vids and educate yourself, please.

Funny you should mention the holocaust , you do know Zionist Jews were behind that right ? of course you wont because your facts are wrong , not one thing you have typed is fact , just what you have been told by a very shrewd propaganda machine.

Again watch these vids and learn and then you will see just how far from the point you really are.
Oh, it's me spitting propaganda, Oh Brother  ::)  And nobodies told me anything dickhead, I don't even watch mainstream broadcast TV, I don't have any means of capturing the TV signal.   I have simply researched both sides and clearly determined the morality level of the two based on their actions and the Muslims lose hundred times over, with their suicide bombings, use of human shields, launching attacks from civilian sites, the brainwashing of their children and teaching them how to launch rockets and to embrace dying for their shit cause, their goal of eliminating JEWS etc etc.

Personally I think ISLAM itself and it's encouragement of TERRORISM is more than enough reason to wipe out MUSLIM shitholes starting with Palestine.  I think we should teach these jihadists fools and their so called moderate supporters what real terror looks like.

And I never started mentioning the holocaust, Palestinian supporters do, once again making absolute fools of themselves. As the side you support ACTUALLY PUT IT IN WRITING THEIR INTENT TO KILL EVER LAST JEWISH MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.  Even when these terrorists tell you the intent to commit genocide and the second holocaust you are still too stupid to get it.

Here is a tip for you, only the morally deranged would support a terrorist regime like HAMAS.  And that explains it, as Palestinians and LIBTARDS are morally deranged.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 30, 2014, 01:33:22 AM
Great video of actual FACT..

Really you guys spouting off absolute bullshit need to educate yourselfs .

Watch,listen and learn or shut the fuck up with this puppet crap.




Yes I listened to it, very good. I suggest Anus Kul and Ubergay listen then try and argue some more.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 30, 2014, 02:21:33 AM
Oh, it's me spitting propaganda, Oh Brother  ::)  And nobodies told me anything dickhead, I don't even watch mainstream broadcast TV, I don't have any means of capturing the TV signal.   I have simply researched both sides and clearly determined the morality level of the two based on their actions and the Muslims lose hundred times over, with their suicide bombings, use of human shields, launching attacks from civilian sites, the brainwashing of their children and teaching them how to launch rockets and to embrace dying for their shit cause, their goal of eliminating JEWS etc etc.

Personally I think ISLAM itself and it's encouragement of TERRORISM is more than enough reason to wipe out MUSLIM shitholes starting with Palestine.  I think we should teach these jihadists fools and their so called moderate supporters what real terror looks like.

And I never started mentioning the holocaust, Palestinian supporters do, once again making absolute fools of themselves. As the side you support ACTUALLY PUT IT IN WRITING THEIR INTENT TO KILL EVER LAST JEWISH MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.  Even when these terrorists tell you the intent to commit genocide and the second holocaust you are still too stupid to get it.

Here is a tip for you, only the morally deranged would support a terrorist regime like HAMAS.  And that explains it, as Palestinians and LIBTARDS are morally deranged.
But us its supporting islam (in afgahnistan 80. in northern africa in 2010s.. )http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/02/04/after-helping-arm-al-qaeda-in-syria-us-government-says-al-qaeda-in-syria-a-threat-to-us/
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 30, 2014, 02:23:34 AM
We all knew this day would come. Despite decades of pratfalls in the Middle East that have left tens of thousands of Americans dead and racked up trillions of dollars of debt, President Obama decided to once again stick America’s nose into a raging and volatile conflict in the region. The Syrian Civil War is the epitome of a conflict that has no US national interest involved – neither side is allied with the United States nor is likely to ever be nor is there any vital security or even economic interest at stake.

But despite this total lack of relevance to the American people and country, the Obama Administration tried to enter the war. First there was an attempt to pretend the Assad government was a threat to the United States because it had chemical weapons, but then Assad agreed to remove the weapons. So then President Obama bypassed an American law to prevent arming terrorists to arm the “moderate” rebels within Syria.

Not long after Obama dodged the anti-terrorist law, the Al Qaeda faction of the Syrian rebels was in possession of the weapons Obama sent to Syria. So yes, after refusing to follow a law that was supposed to prevent arming terrorists, Obama ended up arming terrorists. Abysmally stupid does not even begin to describe this policy.

And now, after this latest series of screw ups, Secretary Kerry is telling members of Congress that America needs to get more involved in the Syrian Civil War because US armed Al Qaeda is a threat. Seriously.

Two prominent Republican senators say that U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry told them — along with 13 other members of a bipartisan congressional delegation — that President Barack Obama’s administration is in need of a new, more assertive, Syria policy; that al-Qaeda-affiliated groups in Syria pose a direct terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland… and that, in Kerry’s view, it may be time to consider more dramatic arming of moderate Syrian rebel factions.

Some define insanity as doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. That definition of insanity surely fits here.

The Obama Administration, after empowering Al Qaeda by sending arms into Syria, wants to send more and better weapons to Syria – in hopes of weakening Al Qaeda.  We truly are exceptional. --- lol, long live the peace
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 30, 2014, 02:38:46 AM
Oh, it's me spitting propaganda, Oh Brother  ::)  And nobodies told me anything dickhead, I don't even watch mainstream broadcast TV, I don't have any means of capturing the TV signal.   I have simply researched both sides and clearly determined the morality level of the two based on their actions and the Muslims lose hundred times over, with their suicide bombings, use of human shields, launching attacks from civilian sites, the brainwashing of their children and teaching them how to launch rockets and to embrace dying for their shit cause, their goal of eliminating JEWS etc etc.

Personally I think ISLAM itself and it's encouragement of TERRORISM is more than enough reason to wipe out MUSLIM shitholes starting with Palestine.  I think we should teach these jihadists fools and their so called moderate supporters what real terror looks like.

And I never started mentioning the holocaust, Palestinian supporters do, once again making absolute fools of themselves. As the side you support ACTUALLY PUT IT IN WRITING THEIR INTENT TO KILL EVER LAST JEWISH MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD.  Even when these terrorists tell you the intent to commit genocide and the second holocaust you are still too stupid to get it.

Here is a tip for you, only the morally deranged would support a terrorist regime like HAMAS.  And that explains it, as Palestinians and LIBTARDS are morally deranged.
It's pretty obvious you have not researched both sides or you would not be posting the nonsense you do.

It's pretty easy to watch these vids and see the real truth but you carry on spurting out utter bullshit.

This is not about Muslim terrorism you nonce , ffs get your head out your ass , This is about war crimes, ethnic cleansing and atrocities being committed against innocent
people you fucking moron.This is about people being forced from there homes on there fucking land and no the Jews here hold no fucking relation to ancient pre bible
Hebrews , see if you had researched this you would know that.

This isnt an us vs them conflict, christ you are dumb.

Seeming you are educated on this matter did you know Israel fire rockets into Palestine and then tell the media that it was actually Palestine firing rockets into Israel
and that's why they "react" so they use media to say it's rockets being fired on them when it's there rockets landing in Palestine . Thats Zionist Propaganda that idiots like you take as gospel.
But you know that cos you research it  ::)

The type of "rockets" Hammas have are bits of pipe with fertilizer in them that would only do damage if they hit you , now I don't support Hammas , its the innocent Palestine and
Israeli people I support.

Israel are the aggressors here not the other way round , they are the terrorists yet cos you see "Arab" you jump on your band wagon like the angry dwarf you are and peddle off
utter shit.

The USA  held peace talks with Israel and Palestine but it was not peace talks, Clinton came out and said that Israel wanted peace and Palestine said no but thats not what happened.
Arafat was told to give up the remaining land and then his people would get peace but he said , we have given you or had taken 80%  of our land already , the remaining 20% being west bank
and gaza strip will remain in our hands yet it was reported that Palestine did not want peace because they wanted to keep there remaining land , see how fucked the reporting is that you listen
to and believe , of course you know this as you have researched both sides - utter bullshit you have , you are an anti muslim asshole who supports the aggressor in this instance.

Do you know the average muslim person in the street is nothing like the shit you spit ? just like the average jew in Israel is nothing like the zionist scum that unfortunatly control that area and
are supported by fucked up governments around the world.


There's so much nasty shit I could type up here that these pricks have done and do and how they control your thought process , but you are weak and won't do real research to discover the
real truth.
So there's no need to waste anymore energy on you , carry on with your hate fueled rants, you clearly are ignorant and pig headed.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 30, 2014, 02:41:54 AM
Yes I listened to it, very good. I suggest Anus Kul and Ubergay listen then try and argue some more.
There anger blinds them, they wont listen as they will see they are wrong but they are to stubborn
to ever admit it , sad really.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: SuperTed on July 30, 2014, 03:07:25 AM
It's pretty obvious you have not researched both sides or you would not be posting the nonsense you do.

It's pretty easy to watch these vids and see the real truth but you carry on spurting out utter bullshit.

This is not about Muslim terrorism you nonce , ffs get your head out your ass , This is about war crimes, ethnic cleansing and atrocities being committed against innocent
people you fucking moron.This is about people being forced from there homes on there fucking land and no the Jews here hold no fucking relation to ancient pre bible
Hebrews , see if you had researched this you would know that.

This isnt an us vs them conflict, christ you are dumb.

Seeming you are educated on this matter did you know Israel fire rockets into Palestine and then tell the media that it was actually Palestine firing rockets into Israel
and that's why they "react" so they use media to say it's rockets being fired on them when it's there rockets landing in Palestine . Thats Zionist Propaganda that idiots like you take as gospel.
But you know that cos you research it  ::)

The type of "rockets" Hammas have are bits of pipe with fertilizer in them that would only do damage if they hit you , now I don't support Hammas , its the innocent Palestine and
Israeli people I support.

Israel are the aggressors here not the other way round , they are the terrorists yet cos you see "Arab" you jump on your band wagon like the angry dwarf you are and peddle off
utter shit.

The USA  held peace talks with Israel and Palestine but it was not peace talks, Clinton came out and said that Israel wanted peace and Palestine said no but thats not what happened.
Arafat was told to give up the remaining land and then his people would get peace but he said , we have given you or had taken 80%  of our land already , the remaining 20% being west bank
and gaza strip will remain in our hands yet it was reported that Palestine did not want peace because they wanted to keep there remaining land , see how fucked the reporting is that you listen
to and believe , of course you know this as you have researched both sides - utter bullshit you have , you are an anti muslim asshole who supports the aggressor in this instance.

Do you know the average muslim person in the street is nothing like the shit you spit ? just like the average jew in Israel is nothing like the zionist scum that unfortunatly control that area and
are supported by fucked up governments around the world.


There's so much nasty shit I could type up here that these pricks have done and do and how they control your thought process , but you are weak and won't do real research to discover the
real truth.
So there's no need to waste anymore energy on you , carry on with your hate fueled rants, you clearly are ignorant and pig headed.

You’re just going to get another long winded response from E-Kul which could be summarized into one sentence:

“I fucking hate Muslims and therefore support anyone who fights against them!”

 :D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 30, 2014, 03:09:19 AM
Is there something happening in Israel?
I dont watch TV news.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 03:30:30 AM
It's pretty obvious you have not researched both sides or you would not be posting the nonsense you do.

It's pretty easy to watch these vids and see the real truth but you carry on spurting out utter bullshit.

This is not about Muslim terrorism you nonce , ffs get your head out your ass , This is about war crimes, ethnic cleansing and atrocities being committed against innocent
people you fucking moron.This is about people being forced from there homes on there fucking land and no the Jews here hold no fucking relation to ancient pre bible
Hebrews , see if you had researched this you would know that.

This isnt an us vs them conflict, christ you are dumb.

Seeming you are educated on this matter did you know Israel fire rockets into Palestine and then tell the media that it was actually Palestine firing rockets into Israel
and that's why they "react" so they use media to say it's rockets being fired on them when it's there rockets landing in Palestine . Thats Zionist Propaganda that idiots like you take as gospel.
But you know that cos you research it  ::)

The type of "rockets" Hammas have are bits of pipe with fertilizer in them that would only do damage if they hit you , now I don't support Hammas , its the innocent Palestine and
Israeli people I support.

Israel are the aggressors here not the other way round , they are the terrorists yet cos you see "Arab" you jump on your band wagon like the angry dwarf you are and peddle off
utter shit.

The USA  held peace talks with Israel and Palestine but it was not peace talks, Clinton came out and said that Israel wanted peace and Palestine said no but thats not what happened.
Arafat was told to give up the remaining land and then his people would get peace but he said , we have given you or had taken 80%  of our land already , the remaining 20% being west bank
and gaza strip will remain in our hands yet it was reported that Palestine did not want peace because they wanted to keep there remaining land , see how fucked the reporting is that you listen
to and believe , of course you know this as you have researched both sides - utter bullshit you have , you are an anti muslim asshole who supports the aggressor in this instance.

Do you know the average muslim person in the street is nothing like the shit you spit ? just like the average jew in Israel is nothing like the zionist scum that unfortunatly control that area and
are supported by fucked up governments around the world.


There's so much nasty shit I could type up here that these pricks have done and do and how they control your thought process , but you are weak and won't do real research to discover the
real truth.
So there's no need to waste anymore energy on you , carry on with your hate fueled rants, you clearly are ignorant and pig headed.
You are clearly a delusional brainwashed moron who laps up the lies of jihadists.  Good luck with that!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 30, 2014, 04:17:45 AM
You are clearly a delusional brainwashed moron who laps up the lies of jihadists.  Good luck with that!
no, you are clearly a delusional brainwashed moron who laps up the lies of zionists.Good luck with that!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 30, 2014, 04:31:43 AM
no, you are clearly a delusional brainwashed moron who laps up the lies of zionists.Good luck with that!
This.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 04:37:21 AM
This.


Oh well, I can still enjoy waking every morning to see how many more terrorists in Palestine have been killed.   :-*
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 30, 2014, 04:48:47 AM
you enjoy waking every morning to see children slaughtered by the dozen? sick fuck.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on July 30, 2014, 04:52:37 AM
you enjoy waking every morning to see children slaughtered by the dozen? sick fuck.
He supports Zionists , These sickos have pedophile cults set up around the world
so of course he will get off on seeing kids tortured.


The Whole Story Of Zionist Conspiracy [The Filthy History Of Pedophilia,Murder & Bigotry]


I see it fitting posting the above seeming as E - Kul has a weird obsession with pedophilia and Muslim history
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 04:53:05 AM
you enjoy waking every morning to see children slaughtered by the dozen? sick fuck.
They are better of dead.  And who is responsible for them being put in harms way?  Oh right, their own parents, their own people,  But we all know libtards worship terrorists.  In a libtards eyes, a terrorist can do no wrong, to a libtard any act of terrorism committed must be justified.  And you prefer palestinian children to be raised by terrorists, kept ignorant, taught to hate and how to fire rockets, taught to worship a pedophile and practise terrorism and used as human shields  You sick fuck, who would wish such a life on innocent children, oh that'rs right, libtards everywhere wish such a thing.  What a sick sick worldview.  And if Palestine gathers power and support they will kill far more children than israel ever would.  Who would wish such a thing, oh right, the sick ant-semitic libtards desire nothing more than to see the Jews eradicated.  They can never get enough Jewish blood, they always scream for more, more, more...

I don't know what is more satisfying, the killing of terrorists and the people who support them or watching the libtards squirm and writhe in that homo rageful way that they do, as if they are holier than thou and the only decent people left on the planet.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 30, 2014, 04:56:33 AM
perhaps if they were given adequate land and freedom to govern themselves they could live a proper life. Did you watch that video fuckface?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 05:00:32 AM
perhaps if they were given adequate land and freedom to govern themselves they could live a proper life. Did you watch that video fuckface?
I have watched countless videos and commentaries on the subject, I am well aware of the Islamic propaganda that gets around.  With 1 billion Muslims all baying for Jewish blood, and the fact they make no secret of lying compulsively to achieve their final solution of eradicating the Jew, I am surprised so many can actually see the truth.  Thank God there are just enough reasonable people to understand the difference in morality between the two sides.  

They have been offered land, freedom and opportunity countless times, they always reject it, they don't want that because they want to eradicate the Jewish people.  Besides, they are such dysfunctional people they could never create a prosperous civilised society if they were given the entire Country.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on July 30, 2014, 05:08:57 AM
a job awaits you as a Isreali ambassador some of the shit you come out with. Offered land freedom and opportunity? Fucking lol. Sorry to be taking your time here I know you've lots of circumsized penis to be blowing.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 05:14:21 AM
Why Don’t I Criticize Israel? - Sam Harris
Sam Harris is an American author, philosopher, and neuroscientist. He is the co-founder and chief executive of Project Reason
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4b/Sam_Harris_01.jpg/245px-Sam_Harris_01.jpg)

I was going to do a podcast on a series of questions, but I got so many questions on the same topic that I think I’m just going to do a single response here, and we’ll do an #AskMeAnything podcast next time.

The question I’ve now received in many forms goes something like this: Why is it that you never criticize Israel? Why is it that you never criticize Judaism? Why is it that you always take the side of the Israelis over that of the Palestinians?

Now, this is an incredibly boring and depressing question for a variety of reasons. The first, is that I have criticized both Israel and Judaism. What seems to have upset many people is that I’ve kept some sense of proportion. There are something like 15 million Jews on earth at this moment; there are a hundred times as many Muslims.  I’ve debated rabbis who, when I have assumed that they believe in a God that can hear our prayers, they stop me mid-sentence and say, “Why would you think that I believe in a God who can hear prayers?” So there are rabbis—conservative rabbis—who believe in a God so elastic as to exclude every concrete claim about Him—and therefore, nearly every concrete demand upon human behavior. And there are millions of Jews, literally millions among the few million who exist, for whom Judaism is very important, and yet they are atheists. They don’t believe in God at all. This is actually a position you can hold in Judaism, but it’s a total non sequitur in Islam or Christianity.

So, when we’re talking about the consequences of irrational beliefs based on scripture, the Jews are the least of the least offenders. But I have said many critical things about Judaism. Let me remind you that parts of Hebrew Bible—books like Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy—are the most repellent, the most sickeningly unethical documents to be found in any religion. They’re worse than the Koran. They’re worse than any part of the New Testament. But the truth is, most Jews recognize this and don’t take these texts seriously. It’s simply a fact that most Jews and most Israelis are not guided by scripture—and that’s a very good thing.

Of course, there are some who are. There are religious extremists among Jews. Now, I consider these people to be truly dangerous, and their religious beliefs are as divisive and as unwarranted as the beliefs of devout Muslims. But there are far fewer such people.

For those of you who worry that I never say anything critical about Israel:  My position on Israel is somewhat paradoxical. There are questions about which I’m genuinely undecided. And there’s something in my position, I think, to offend everyone. So, acknowledging how reckless it is to say anything on this topic, I’m nevertheless going to think out loud about it for a few minutes.

I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state. I think it is obscene, irrational and unjustifiable to have a state organized around a religion. So I don’t celebrate the idea that there’s a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. I certainly don’t support any Jewish claims to real estate based on the Bible.

Though I just said that I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state, the justification for such a state is rather easy to find. We need look no further than the fact that the rest of the world has shown itself eager to murder the Jews at almost every opportunity. So, if there were going to be a state organized around protecting members of a single religion, it certainly should be a Jewish state. Now, friends of Israel might consider this a rather tepid defense, but it’s the strongest one I’ve got. I think the idea of a religious state is ultimately untenable. [Note: It is worth observing, however, that Israel isn’t “Jewish” in the sense that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are “Muslim.” As my friend Jerry Coyne points out, Israel is actually less religious than the U.S., and it guarantees freedom of religion to its citizens. Israel is not a theocracy, and one could easily argue that its Jewish identity is more cultural than religious. However, if we ask why the Jews wouldn’t move to British Columbia if offered a home there, we can see the role that religion still plays in their thinking.]

Needless to say, in defending its territory as a Jewish state, the Israeli government and Israelis themselves have had to do terrible things. They have, as they are now, fought wars against the Palestinians that have caused massive losses of innocent life. More civilians have been killed in Gaza in the last few weeks than militants. That’s not a surprise because Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Occupying it, fighting wars in it, is guaranteed to get woman and children and other noncombatants killed. And there’s probably little question over the course of fighting multiple wars that the Israelis have done things that amount to war crimes. They have been brutalized by this process—that is, made brutal by it. But that is largely the due to the character of their enemies. [Note: I was not giving Israel a pass to commit war crimes. I was making a point about the realities of living under the continuous threat of terrorism and of fighting multiple wars in a confined space.]

Whatever terrible things the Israelis have done, it is also true to say that they have used more restraint in their fighting against the Palestinians than we—the Americans, or Western Europeans—have used in any of our wars. They have endured more worldwide public scrutiny than any other society has ever had to while defending itself against aggressors. The Israelis simply are held to a different standard. And the condemnation leveled at them by the rest of the world is completely out of proportion to what they have actually done. [Note: I was not saying that because they are more careful than we have been at our most careless, the Israelis are above criticism. War crimes are war crimes.]

It is clear that Israel is losing the PR war and has been for years now.  One of the most galling things for outside observers about the current war in Gaza is the disproportionate loss of life on the Palestinian side. This doesn’t make a lot of moral sense. Israel built bomb shelters to protect its citizens. The Palestinians built tunnels through which they could carry out terror attacks and kidnap Israelis. Should Israel be blamed for successfully protecting its population in a defensive war? I don’t think so. [Note: I was not suggesting that the deaths of Palestinian noncombatants are anything less than tragic. But if retaliating against Hamas is bound to get innocents killed, and the Israelis manage to protect their own civilians in the meantime, the loss of innocent life on the Palestinian side is guaranteed to be disproportionate.]

But there is no way to look at the images coming out Gaza—especially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnel—and think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.]

The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]

The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews.

And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.  [Note: The word “so” in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn’t mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not to kill Palestinian children.]

Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn’t the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they’re not doing it.

What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere. [Note: Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible.]

The truth is that everything you need to know about the moral imbalance between Israel and her enemies can be understood on the topic of human shields. Who uses human shields? Well, Hamas certainly does. They shoot their rockets from residential neighborhoods, from beside schools, and hospitals, and mosques. Muslims in other recent conflicts, in Iraq and elsewhere, have also used human shields. They have laid their rifles on the shoulders of their own children and shot from behind their bodies.

Consider the moral difference between using human shields and being deterred by them. That is the difference we’re talking about. The Israelis and other Western powers are deterred, however imperfectly, by the Muslim use of human shields in these conflicts, as we should be. It is morally abhorrent to kill noncombatants if you can avoid it. It’s certainly abhorrent to shoot through the bodies of children to get at your adversary. But take a moment to reflect on how contemptible this behavior is. And understand how cynical it is. The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don’t want to kill Muslim noncombatants. [Note: The term “Muslims” in this paragraph means “Muslim combatants” of the sort that Western forces have encountered in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. The term “jihadists” would have been too narrow, but I was not suggesting that all Muslims support the use of human shields or are anti-Semitic, at war with the West, etc.]

Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they’ve advanced into dangerous areas. That’s not the use of human shields we’re talking about. It’s egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit.

If you’re going to talk about the conflict in the Middle East, you have to acknowledge this difference. I don’t think there’s any ethical disparity to be found anywhere that is more shocking or consequential than this.

And the truth is, this isn’t even the worst that jihadists do. Hamas is practically a moderate organization, compared to other jihadist groups. There are Muslims who have blown themselves up in crowds of children—again, Muslim children—just to get at the American soldiers who were handing out candy to them. They have committed suicide bombings, only to send another bomber to the hospital to await the casualities—where they then blow up all the injured along with the doctors and nurses trying to save their lives.

Every day that you could read about an Israeli rocket gone astray or Israeli soldiers beating up an innocent teenager, you could have read about ISIS in Iraq crucifying people on the side of the road, Christians and Muslims. Where is the outrage in the Muslim world and on the Left over these crimes? Where are the demonstrations, 10,000 or 100,000 deep, in the capitals of Europe against ISIS?  If Israel kills a dozen Palestinians by accident, the entire Muslim world is inflamed. God forbid you burn a Koran, or write a novel vaguely critical of the faith. And yet Muslims can destroy their own societies—and seek to destroy the West—and you don’t hear a peep. [Note: Of course, I’m aware that many Muslims condemn groups like ISIS. My point is that we don’t see massive protests against global jihadism—even though it targets Muslims more than anyone else—and we do see such protests over things like the Danish cartoons.]

So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There’s no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas.  That doesn’t mean you can’t condemn specific actions on the part of the Israelis. And, of course, acknowledging the moral disparity between Israel and her enemies doesn’t give us any solution to the problem of Israel’s existence in the Middle East. [Note: I was not suggesting that Israel’s actions are above criticism or that their recent incursion into Gaza was necessarily justified. Nor was I saying that the status quo, wherein the Palestinians remain stateless, should be maintained. And I certainly wasn’t expressing support for the building of settlements on contested land (as I made clear below). By “siding with Israel,” I am simply recognizing that they are not the primary aggressors in this conflict. They are, rather, responding to aggression—and at a terrible cost.] 

Again, granted, there’s some percentage of Jews who are animated by their own religious hysteria and their own prophesies. Some are awaiting the Messiah on contested land. Yes, these people are willing to sacrifice the blood of their own children for the glory of God. But, for the most part, they are not representative of the current state of Judaism or the actions of the Israeli government. And it is how Israel deals with these people—their own religious lunatics—that will determine whether they can truly hold the moral high ground. And Israel can do a lot more than it has to disempower them. It can cease to subsidize the delusions of the Ultra-Orthodox, and it can stop building settlements on contested land.  [Note: Read that again. And, yes, I understand that not all settlers are Ultra-Orthodox.]

These incompatible religious attachments to this land have made it impossible for Muslims and Jews to negotiate like rational human beings, and they have made it impossible for them to live in peace. But the onus is still more on the side of the Muslims here. Even on their worst day, the Israelis act with greater care and compassion and self-criticism than Muslim combatants have anywhere, ever.

And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive. [Note: Some might argue that they would do more than this—e.g. steal more Palestinian land. But apart from the influence of Jewish extremism (which I condemn), Israel’s continued appropriation of land has more than a little to do with her security concerns. Absent Palestinian terrorism and Muslim anti-Semitism, we could be talking about a “one-state solution,” and the settlements would be moot.]

What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way.

This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don’t want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It’s just that some of us haven’t realized it yet.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 30, 2014, 06:56:58 AM
They are better of dead.

And this is where everyone should stop engaging this cunt of a 'human' - hope you have no children.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 30, 2014, 08:03:15 AM
What a load of absolute rubbish.  First of, Palestine isn't an occupied territory.  Let's say the indigenous population of my country decided they could start terrorizing the population based on some wild claim we are occupying their land.  Do you think we are going to stand for it, do you think we are going to clothe, house, cure these people?  No we are going to crush the absolute shit out of them like they deserve.  

The Nazis didn't do what israel did, without provocation they forced the JEWS into concentration camps and eventually killed them en masse, one can only hope israel will eventually do this to the Palestinians, as it is probably the best solution.    
 
And WTF? If the blockade end all this nonsense ends.  You must be the most naive person on the planet to think that.  HAMAS has a charter to wipe out the JEWS, Palestine has constantly rejected GOOD deals in favor of pursuing their final solution, to eradicate all JEWS from the planet.  Let's see who last tried to do that, oh that's right, it was HITLER.

And if need to ask "WHY the blockade?", then you're an idiot.  Only a fool would help his enemy amass enough power to carry out the threat of the total annihilation of his entire race.  The whole things ends when Muslims stop terrorising the whole world to meet their ridiculous demands with the support of Western Libtards everywhere.

I don't know who we should build Gulags for first, the Palestinians or the crazy libtards that support them.

Imagine the Israelis actually decide to commit genocide on the Palestinian people, it would make their current actions look like they are throwing a tea party for Palestine.  Personally, I hope they do, the attempted genocide of the jews by Hitler was seen as an unprovoked act.  No decent, reasonable human being could blame Israel for wiping out the palestinian people.  They have tolerated over half a century of terrorism and their attempted extermination.  I say the time is right to end this thing once and for all.

Okay I take it your Jewish, well that explains your one sided view.  By the way I hate Muslims just as much as the next guy, with their stupid laws against women and praying every five times a day,  Allah this, allah that, give me a break, but when you bomb schools and hospitals you've lost all credibility

Israel controls all roads into Gaza, they control the airspace, they control the water around it. they control what goes in and what goes out.  When one country does this to another, you are in fact occupied.  Sorry your advanced intelligence cant grasp that concept.

And what are these great terms that Israel is offering Hamas?  Does any of them involve allowing free movement of goods?  No, that would mean ending the blockade.

Yeah I call a spade a spade, don't care if it offends you, if that makes me a liberal then I guess I'm a liberal,  Haha, conservatives on a bodybuilding site, Give me a fucken break! Excuse me but I've got to get my test levels up for a squat workout.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:00:50 AM
but when you launch rocket attacks from schools and hospitals you've lost all credibility


Fixed. 

Only a fool would think it prudent to help your enemy destroy you.  That's why Israel controls gaza.  When the Palestinians prove themselves and stop the terrorist attacks and show some initiative towards being a civilised society and lose the terrorist governance, then they might earn the right to be self determined.  Until that time they are simply terrorists,who in my opinion should be eliminated once and for all.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:02:30 AM
And this is where everyone should stop engaging this cunt of a 'human' - hope you have no children.
Says the man who prefers children to be trained to be terrorists, to hate, to be used as human shields.  UUggh, what a disgusting human being, what type of sick fuck wants that for a child.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: tu_holmes on July 30, 2014, 09:04:20 AM
Fixed.  

Only a fool would think it prudent to help your enemy destroy you.  That's why Israel controls gaza.  When the Palestinians prove themselves and stop the terrorist attacks and show some initiative towards being a civilised society and lose the terrorist governance, then they might earn the right to be self determined.  Until that time they are simply terrorists,who in my opinion should be eliminated once and for all.

Some would say that everyone has an inherent right to govern themselves no matter what, just as long as they don't hurt you.

Now granted, I don't know what would happen should there become a palestinian state, but then, no one knew what would happen before there became a Jewish state in Israel.

Now we know.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 30, 2014, 09:05:46 AM
Oh well, I can still enjoy wanking every morning to see how many more terrorists in Palestine have been killed.   :-*

fixed
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:09:14 AM
Some would say that everyone has an inherent right to govern themselves no matter what, just as long as they don't hurt you.

Now granted, I don't know what would happen should there become a palestinian state, but then, no one knew what would happen before there became a Jewish state in Israel.

Now we know.
Agreed, But Palestine has made it clear, they put it in writing, they want to eradicate every last Jewish man, woman and child and they make every possible attempt they can to do it.  They have killed many Israelis in the last 60 odd years and they will kill many more.  When someone says they want to kill you, you better listen, and you better be on guard.  The Israelis are doing a fantastic job so far of minimising casualties and eliminating HAMAS.  I applaud them.  

In Syria, in the past two weeks alone over 2000 muslims have been murdered by other muslims, you don't hear a peep out of the anti-semites, libtards and Palestinian supporters.  They are putting the killed soldiers heads on sticks for christ sake and posting the video on youtube.  The silence over this alone is enough to know that the criticism directed at israel is purely racism, anti-semitism at it's finest.  People love to hate the Jews and to see their blood spilled, it riles them to see them do so well defending itself and it's people.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:14:15 AM
fixed
Better than crying like a bitch and playing the victim eternally. Hey, that actually sums up the entire life of a libtard.

And if these libtard protests are really against barbarism, then where is the outrage over the Muslims who this month had their heads hacked off by Islamic State militants in Syria’s Raqqa and impaled on a fence? If these protests are against crimes against children, then where are the marches against the Boko Haram terrorists who cut the throats of schoolboys and enslaved nearly 300 schoolgirls in April?

If these protests are about alleged “apartheid” policies, then where are the petitions denouncing the Islamic State for destroying Mosul’s ancient Christian community this month by demanding Christians convert, flee or die? And where are the protests against Muslims slaughtering Muslims in Pakistan, Libya, Somalia, Afghanistan and Iraq, where 5500 civilians have been killed this year?

Or is killing a Muslim only an international outrage when a Jew does it in self-defence?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Palpatine Q on July 30, 2014, 09:39:15 AM
If Aliens dropped out of the sky with advanced weapons and technology, and took the whole planet, did they steal it from the human race ?

Is there a deed somewhere saying we "own" it ? 

Did the indians "steal" America from the fucking squirrels and rabbits ?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:40:11 AM
Italian Reporter Confirms Deaths In Al-Shati Result Of Hamas Misfire, Not Israeli Missile
Reporter could not confirm until away from potential Hamas retaliation.

On Monday, reports rocketed around the globe of a humanitarian disaster at the Al-Shati refugee camp in Gaza. Eyewitness reports were shared on social media and in news articles and reports of the horrific civilian casualties. Many a finger was pointed at Israel. NBC reported it as a "strike" carried out by an "Israeli drone," stating that it struck in an area full of children.

Israel claimed in response that the incident was the result of a Hamas rocket misfire, rather than an Israeli strike, a claim met with skepticism by many. This morning, an Italian reporter who was in Gaza until today has bolstered Israel's claim, apparently confirming on Twitter that the explosion was indeed the result of a Hamas rocket.

The reporter makes a point that he had to wait until he was safely away from potential Hamas retaliation for reporting this. Other reporters in Gaza, perhaps even NBC reporters, may surely be under similar pressure to watch what they say.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 30, 2014, 09:45:49 AM
If Aliens dropped out of the sky with advanced weapons and technology, and took the whole planet, did they steal it from the human race ?

Is there a deed somewhere saying we "own" it ? 

Did the indians "steal" America from the fucking squirrels and rabbits ?
ECAXTLY.  This conflict is nothing more than JEW hatred by a contemptible people who can't get along with each other let alone anyone else.  The irony is, had they left the Jews alone and chosen peace they would have had their lifestyle elevated to no end, but these people seem to prefer to be victims, to live in slums as ignorant terrorists who worship death.  What can you do?  We have the same issue here in Australia with the ABorigines, who rather than enjoy the benefits of our modern civilised society they choose to live on the fringes, hating the white man and spending their days drinking and fighting.  To their credit though, they aren't terrorists.  They white man has given them everything of late, huge handouts, land, favoritism in the employment and education sector you name it, we have given it to them, even apologized for stealing their land.  They still hate us and always will and probably never be integrated or enjoy the elevated lifestyle the average Australian does.  Like the palestinians they seem to enjoy their victim status.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
There is no difference because we all fight against GLOBAL Terrorism. i fully Support any Action against Islamic terrorists. Fuck Islam.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on July 30, 2014, 09:57:30 AM
ECAXTLY.  This conflict is nothing more than JEW hatred by a contemptible people who can't get along with each other let alone anyone else.  The irony is, had they left the Jews alone and chosen peace they would have had their lifestyle elevated to no end, but these people seem to prefer to be victims, to live in slums as ignorant terrorists who worship death.  What can you do?  We have the same issue here in Australia with the ABorigines, who rather than enjoy the benefits of our modern civilised society they choose to live on the fringes, hating the white man and spending their days drinking and fighting.  To their credit though, they aren't terrorists.  They white man has given them everything of late, huge handouts, land, favoritism in the employment and education sector you name it, we have given it to them, even apologized for stealing their land.  They still hate us always will and probably never be integrated or enjoy the elevated lifestyle the average Australian does.  Like the palestinians they seem to enjoy their victim status.

there is no good or evil per se, just winners and losers.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on July 30, 2014, 10:10:26 AM
History is written by the winners.
If Germany had won the war there would be no Holocaust.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 30, 2014, 10:37:06 AM
So its wrong to be a terrorist? If the us troops in afgahnistan rebelled againt their comanders would they be terrorists? Had the founding fathers been terrorists?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The Scott on July 30, 2014, 10:47:06 AM
Liberals in bed with Hamas.   Let's call 'em Hamas and Eggs cuz libtards are nothing if not egghead morons that know what's best for the world.  Screw Islam and any that support it's agenda of submission.

I have begun to think there's only two races on this planet.  Smart and stooooopid.  The litter known as Hamas is definitely from the latter of the two.

God bless the USA and her allies, especially so His people Israel. 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: drmarkp on July 30, 2014, 10:58:08 AM
Liberals in bed with Hamas.   Let's call 'em Hamas and Eggs cuz libtards are nothing if not egghead morons that know what's best for the world.  Screw Islam and any that support it's agenda of submission.

I have begun to think there's only two races on this planet.  Smart and stooooopid.  The litter known as Hamas is definitely from the latter of the two.

God bless the USA and her allies, especially so His people Israel. 

X2... Spot on great post!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: loco on July 30, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
Why Don’t I Criticize Israel? - Sam Harris
Sam Harris is an American author, philosopher, and neuroscientist. He is the co-founder and chief executive of Project Reason
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I was going to do a podcast on a series of questions, but I got so many questions on the same topic that I think I’m just going to do a single response here, and we’ll do an #AskMeAnything podcast next time.

The question I’ve now received in many forms goes something like this: Why is it that you never criticize Israel? Why is it that you never criticize Judaism? Why is it that you always take the side of the Israelis over that of the Palestinians?

Now, this is an incredibly boring and depressing question for a variety of reasons. The first, is that I have criticized both Israel and Judaism. What seems to have upset many people is that I’ve kept some sense of proportion. There are something like 15 million Jews on earth at this moment; there are a hundred times as many Muslims.  I’ve debated rabbis who, when I have assumed that they believe in a God that can hear our prayers, they stop me mid-sentence and say, “Why would you think that I believe in a God who can hear prayers?” So there are rabbis—conservative rabbis—who believe in a God so elastic as to exclude every concrete claim about Him—and therefore, nearly every concrete demand upon human behavior. And there are millions of Jews, literally millions among the few million who exist, for whom Judaism is very important, and yet they are atheists. They don’t believe in God at all. This is actually a position you can hold in Judaism, but it’s a total non sequitur in Islam or Christianity.

So, when we’re talking about the consequences of irrational beliefs based on scripture, the Jews are the least of the least offenders. But I have said many critical things about Judaism. Let me remind you that parts of Hebrew Bible—books like Leviticus and Exodus and Deuteronomy—are the most repellent, the most sickeningly unethical documents to be found in any religion. They’re worse than the Koran. They’re worse than any part of the New Testament. But the truth is, most Jews recognize this and don’t take these texts seriously. It’s simply a fact that most Jews and most Israelis are not guided by scripture—and that’s a very good thing.

Of course, there are some who are. There are religious extremists among Jews. Now, I consider these people to be truly dangerous, and their religious beliefs are as divisive and as unwarranted as the beliefs of devout Muslims. But there are far fewer such people.

For those of you who worry that I never say anything critical about Israel:  My position on Israel is somewhat paradoxical. There are questions about which I’m genuinely undecided. And there’s something in my position, I think, to offend everyone. So, acknowledging how reckless it is to say anything on this topic, I’m nevertheless going to think out loud about it for a few minutes.

I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state. I think it is obscene, irrational and unjustifiable to have a state organized around a religion. So I don’t celebrate the idea that there’s a Jewish homeland in the Middle East. I certainly don’t support any Jewish claims to real estate based on the Bible.

Though I just said that I don’t think Israel should exist as a Jewish state, the justification for such a state is rather easy to find. We need look no further than the fact that the rest of the world has shown itself eager to murder the Jews at almost every opportunity. So, if there were going to be a state organized around protecting members of a single religion, it certainly should be a Jewish state. Now, friends of Israel might consider this a rather tepid defense, but it’s the strongest one I’ve got. I think the idea of a religious state is ultimately untenable. [Note: It is worth observing, however, that Israel isn’t “Jewish” in the sense that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are “Muslim.” As my friend Jerry Coyne points out, Israel is actually less religious than the U.S., and it guarantees freedom of religion to its citizens. Israel is not a theocracy, and one could easily argue that its Jewish identity is more cultural than religious. However, if we ask why the Jews wouldn’t move to British Columbia if offered a home there, we can see the role that religion still plays in their thinking.]

Needless to say, in defending its territory as a Jewish state, the Israeli government and Israelis themselves have had to do terrible things. They have, as they are now, fought wars against the Palestinians that have caused massive losses of innocent life. More civilians have been killed in Gaza in the last few weeks than militants. That’s not a surprise because Gaza is one of the most densely populated places on Earth. Occupying it, fighting wars in it, is guaranteed to get woman and children and other noncombatants killed. And there’s probably little question over the course of fighting multiple wars that the Israelis have done things that amount to war crimes. They have been brutalized by this process—that is, made brutal by it. But that is largely the due to the character of their enemies. [Note: I was not giving Israel a pass to commit war crimes. I was making a point about the realities of living under the continuous threat of terrorism and of fighting multiple wars in a confined space.]

Whatever terrible things the Israelis have done, it is also true to say that they have used more restraint in their fighting against the Palestinians than we—the Americans, or Western Europeans—have used in any of our wars. They have endured more worldwide public scrutiny than any other society has ever had to while defending itself against aggressors. The Israelis simply are held to a different standard. And the condemnation leveled at them by the rest of the world is completely out of proportion to what they have actually done. [Note: I was not saying that because they are more careful than we have been at our most careless, the Israelis are above criticism. War crimes are war crimes.]

It is clear that Israel is losing the PR war and has been for years now.  One of the most galling things for outside observers about the current war in Gaza is the disproportionate loss of life on the Palestinian side. This doesn’t make a lot of moral sense. Israel built bomb shelters to protect its citizens. The Palestinians built tunnels through which they could carry out terror attacks and kidnap Israelis. Should Israel be blamed for successfully protecting its population in a defensive war? I don’t think so. [Note: I was not suggesting that the deaths of Palestinian noncombatants are anything less than tragic. But if retaliating against Hamas is bound to get innocents killed, and the Israelis manage to protect their own civilians in the meantime, the loss of innocent life on the Palestinian side is guaranteed to be disproportionate.]

But there is no way to look at the images coming out Gaza—especially of infants and toddlers riddled by shrapnel—and think that this is anything other than a monstrous evil. Insofar as the Israelis are the agents of this evil, it seems impossible to support them. And there is no question that the Palestinians have suffered terribly for decades under the occupation. This is where most critics of Israel appear to be stuck. They see these images, and they blame Israel for killing and maiming babies. They see the occupation, and they blame Israel for making Gaza a prison camp. I would argue that this is a kind of moral illusion, borne of a failure to look at the actual causes of this conflict, as well as of a failure to understand the intentions of the people on either side of it. [Note: I was not saying that the horror of slain children is a moral illusion; nor was I minimizing the suffering of the Palestinians under the occupation. I was claiming that Israel is not primarily to blame for all this suffering.]

The truth is that there is an obvious, undeniable, and hugely consequential moral difference between Israel and her enemies. The Israelis are surrounded by people who have explicitly genocidal intentions towards them. The charter of Hamas is explicitly genocidal. It looks forward to a time, based on Koranic prophesy, when the earth itself will cry out for Jewish blood, where the trees and the stones will say “O Muslim, there’s a Jew hiding behind me. Come and kill him.” This is a political document. We are talking about a government that was voted into power by a majority of Palestinians. [Note: Yes, I know that not every Palestinian supports Hamas, but enough do to have brought them to power. Hamas is not a fringe group.]

The discourse in the Muslim world about Jews is utterly shocking. Not only is there Holocaust denial—there’s Holocaust denial that then asserts that we will do it for real if given the chance. The only thing more obnoxious than denying the Holocaust is to say that it should have happened; it didn’t happen, but if we get the chance, we will accomplish it. There are children’s shows in the Palestinian territories and elsewhere that teach five-year-olds about the glories of martyrdom and about the necessity of killing Jews.

And this gets to the heart of the moral difference between Israel and her enemies. And this is something I discussed in The End of Faith. To see this moral difference, you have to ask what each side would do if they had the power to do it.

What would the Jews do to the Palestinians if they could do anything they wanted? Well, we know the answer to that question, because they can do more or less anything they want. The Israeli army could kill everyone in Gaza tomorrow. So what does that mean? Well, it means that, when they drop a bomb on a beach and kill four Palestinian children, as happened last week, this is almost certainly an accident. They’re not targeting children. They could target as many children as they want. Every time a Palestinian child dies, Israel edges ever closer to becoming an international pariah. So the Israelis take great pains not to kill children and other noncombatants.  [Note: The word “so” in the previous sentence was regrettable and misleading. I didn’t mean to suggest that safeguarding its reputation abroad would be the only (or even primary) reason for Israel to avoid killing children. However, the point stands: Even if you want to attribute the basest motives to Israel, it is clearly in her self-interest not to kill Palestinian children.]

Now, is it possible that some Israeli soldiers go berserk under pressure and wind up shooting into crowds of rock-throwing children? Of course. You will always find some soldiers acting this way in the middle of a war. But we know that this isn’t the general intent of Israel. We know the Israelis do not want to kill non-combatants, because they could kill as many as they want, and they’re not doing it.

What do we know of the Palestinians? What would the Palestinians do to the Jews in Israel if the power imbalance were reversed? Well, they have told us what they would do. For some reason, Israel’s critics just don’t want to believe the worst about a group like Hamas, even when it declares the worst of itself. We’ve already had a Holocaust and several other genocides in the 20th century. People are capable of committing genocide. When they tell us they intend to commit genocide, we should listen. There is every reason to believe that the Palestinians would kill all the Jews in Israel if they could. Would every Palestinian support genocide? Of course not. But vast numbers of them—and of Muslims throughout the world—would. Needless to say, the Palestinians in general, not just Hamas, have a history of targeting innocent noncombatants in the most shocking ways possible. They’ve blown themselves up on buses and in restaurants. They’ve massacred teenagers. They’ve murdered Olympic athletes. They now shoot rockets indiscriminately into civilian areas. And again, the charter of their government in Gaza explicitly tells us that they want to annihilate the Jews—not just in Israel but everywhere. [Note: Again, I realize that not all Palestinians support Hamas. Nor am I discounting the degree to which the occupation, along with collateral damage suffered in war, has fueled Palestinian rage. But Palestinian terrorism (and Muslim anti-Semitism) is what has made peaceful coexistence thus far impossible.]

The truth is that everything you need to know about the moral imbalance between Israel and her enemies can be understood on the topic of human shields. Who uses human shields? Well, Hamas certainly does. They shoot their rockets from residential neighborhoods, from beside schools, and hospitals, and mosques. Muslims in other recent conflicts, in Iraq and elsewhere, have also used human shields. They have laid their rifles on the shoulders of their own children and shot from behind their bodies.

Consider the moral difference between using human shields and being deterred by them. That is the difference we’re talking about. The Israelis and other Western powers are deterred, however imperfectly, by the Muslim use of human shields in these conflicts, as we should be. It is morally abhorrent to kill noncombatants if you can avoid it. It’s certainly abhorrent to shoot through the bodies of children to get at your adversary. But take a moment to reflect on how contemptible this behavior is. And understand how cynical it is. The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don’t want to kill Muslim noncombatants. [Note: The term “Muslims” in this paragraph means “Muslim combatants” of the sort that Western forces have encountered in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere. The term “jihadists” would have been too narrow, but I was not suggesting that all Muslims support the use of human shields or are anti-Semitic, at war with the West, etc.]

Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they’ve advanced into dangerous areas. That’s not the use of human shields we’re talking about. It’s egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit.

If you’re going to talk about the conflict in the Middle East, you have to acknowledge this difference. I don’t think there’s any ethical disparity to be found anywhere that is more shocking or consequential than this.

And the truth is, this isn’t even the worst that jihadists do. Hamas is practically a moderate organization, compared to other jihadist groups. There are Muslims who have blown themselves up in crowds of children—again, Muslim children—just to get at the American soldiers who were handing out candy to them. They have committed suicide bombings, only to send another bomber to the hospital to await the casualities—where they then blow up all the injured along with the doctors and nurses trying to save their lives.

Every day that you could read about an Israeli rocket gone astray or Israeli soldiers beating up an innocent teenager, you could have read about ISIS in Iraq crucifying people on the side of the road, Christians and Muslims. Where is the outrage in the Muslim world and on the Left over these crimes? Where are the demonstrations, 10,000 or 100,000 deep, in the capitals of Europe against ISIS?  If Israel kills a dozen Palestinians by accident, the entire Muslim world is inflamed. God forbid you burn a Koran, or write a novel vaguely critical of the faith. And yet Muslims can destroy their own societies—and seek to destroy the West—and you don’t hear a peep. [Note: Of course, I’m aware that many Muslims condemn groups like ISIS. My point is that we don’t see massive protests against global jihadism—even though it targets Muslims more than anyone else—and we do see such protests over things like the Danish cartoons.]

So, it seems to me, that you have to side with Israel here. You have one side which if it really could accomplish its aims would simply live peacefully with its neighbors, and you have another side which is seeking to implement a seventh century theocracy in the Holy Land. There’s no peace to be found between those incompatible ideas.  That doesn’t mean you can’t condemn specific actions on the part of the Israelis. And, of course, acknowledging the moral disparity between Israel and her enemies doesn’t give us any solution to the problem of Israel’s existence in the Middle East. [Note: I was not suggesting that Israel’s actions are above criticism or that their recent incursion into Gaza was necessarily justified. Nor was I saying that the status quo, wherein the Palestinians remain stateless, should be maintained. And I certainly wasn’t expressing support for the building of settlements on contested land (as I made clear below). By “siding with Israel,” I am simply recognizing that they are not the primary aggressors in this conflict. They are, rather, responding to aggression—and at a terrible cost.] 

Again, granted, there’s some percentage of Jews who are animated by their own religious hysteria and their own prophesies. Some are awaiting the Messiah on contested land. Yes, these people are willing to sacrifice the blood of their own children for the glory of God. But, for the most part, they are not representative of the current state of Judaism or the actions of the Israeli government. And it is how Israel deals with these people—their own religious lunatics—that will determine whether they can truly hold the moral high ground. And Israel can do a lot more than it has to disempower them. It can cease to subsidize the delusions of the Ultra-Orthodox, and it can stop building settlements on contested land.  [Note: Read that again. And, yes, I understand that not all settlers are Ultra-Orthodox.]

These incompatible religious attachments to this land have made it impossible for Muslims and Jews to negotiate like rational human beings, and they have made it impossible for them to live in peace. But the onus is still more on the side of the Muslims here. Even on their worst day, the Israelis act with greater care and compassion and self-criticism than Muslim combatants have anywhere, ever.

And again, you have to ask yourself, what do these groups want? What would they accomplish if they could accomplish anything? What would the Israelis do if they could do what they want? They would live in peace with their neighbors, if they had neighbors who would live in peace with them. They would simply continue to build out their high tech sector and thrive. [Note: Some might argue that they would do more than this—e.g. steal more Palestinian land. But apart from the influence of Jewish extremism (which I condemn), Israel’s continued appropriation of land has more than a little to do with her security concerns. Absent Palestinian terrorism and Muslim anti-Semitism, we could be talking about a “one-state solution,” and the settlements would be moot.]

What do groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda and even Hamas want? They want to impose their religious views on the rest of humanity. They want stifle every freedom that decent, educated, secular people care about. This is not a trivial difference. And yet judging from the level of condemnation that Israel now receives, you would think the difference ran the other way.

This kind of confusion puts all of us in danger. This is the great story of our time. For the rest of our lives, and the lives of our children, we are going to be confronted by people who don’t want to live peacefully in a secular, pluralistic world, because they are desperate to get to Paradise, and they are willing to destroy the very possibility of human happiness along the way. The truth is, we are all living in Israel. It’s just that some of us haven’t realized it yet.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: loco on July 30, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Amos 9:15
New International Version (NIV)

15 I will plant Israel in their own land,
    never again to be uprooted
    from the land I have given them,”
says the Lord your God.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 30, 2014, 02:43:18 PM
Liberals in bed with Hamas.   Let's call 'em Hamas and Eggs cuz libtards are nothing if not egghead morons that know what's best for the world.  Screw Islam and any that support it's agenda of submission.

I have begun to think there's only two races on this planet.  Smart and stooooopid.  The litter known as Hamas is definitely from the latter of the two.

God bless the USA and her allies, especially so His people Israel. 

Why would god choose one race, creed or colour over another?  Are you saying he is racist?  I think you are. 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Conker on July 30, 2014, 04:24:15 PM
just watched this vid on sky news, shows israeli protesters gloating over dead kids in gaza. they would never usually show anything on normal UK news showing israelis acting like this. there definitely seems to be a shifting in bias against israel in the UK msm over last week or so.

Translated by HuffPost, they sing: "There's no school in Gaza, there are no more kids left". The video, posted two days ago, concludes with the crowd shouting "Gaza is a cemetery".



Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The Scott on July 30, 2014, 04:45:11 PM
Why would god choose one race, creed or colour over another?  Are you saying he is racist?  I think you are. 

Surely you jest?  Nay... I think you kid not.

There is but one race and that being human.  Every so-called difference is nothing but a variation on the theme of humanity.  We can and do, have children with one another.  If this were possible with humans and animals then the Arab world would be turgid with kids and by "kids" I mean goatboy and goatgirl kids.  Hmmm... I suspect "Llama-Mama" would be the hot catch phrase among the turbaned zoophiliacs.

It is when someone behaves in an inhuman(e) fashion that any rational being makes a choice and if we as human beings are capable of rational thought and reason how much more so the author of all we see?  My statement about there actually being only two races, smart and stooooopid, was made in jest but also to make a point.  Humans have so much more in common than the differences that so often separate us and yet some people, mostly libtards bent on subjugation via welfare, desire only to celebrate those minor differences.

Cretins like Hamas go a step further.  They want to kill those different from them.  Libtards don't seem to mind this at all and in all honesty I suspect that the only way these zeitgeist of the moment juveniles would ever condemn Hamas and  others of their ilk would  be if they were as white as Michael Jackson in a dream about unicorns,  Diana Ross and Pepsi.  Whitey is eeevile, dontcha know.  It's okay to hate Whitey.

Evil and for that matter stupid, comes in many colors.   

I have no idea if this has helped you or not, but it should.

Be well.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Donny on July 30, 2014, 11:41:10 PM
just watched this vid on sky news, shows israeli protesters gloating over dead kids in gaza. they would never usually show anything on normal UK news showing israelis acting like this. there definitely seems to be a shifting in bias against israel in the UK msm over last week or so.

Translated by HuffPost, they sing: "There's no school in Gaza, there are no more kids left". The video, posted two days ago, concludes with the crowd shouting "Gaza is a cemetery".




i agree with the scott and what he wrote but i think it´s just terrible to see children suffer like this. i just wish they could find a solution and learn to accept each other. Hamas Needs to be rooted out and cut out like the evil cancer it is.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 12:08:18 AM
If Aliens dropped out of the sky with advanced weapons and technology, and took the whole planet, did they steal it from the human race ?

Is there a deed somewhere saying we "own" it ? 

Did the indians "steal" America from the fucking squirrels and rabbits ?
Nope, the indians lived in harmony with nature - a perfect equilibrium predator -prey , they ve been pure.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 12:12:42 AM
Wats the difference between
 1 : me living in my home and somebody walking in and saying with a gun in his hands that all my backyard is his because i dont go there often
 2 indians living from thousand of years on their land and some colonist killing them because actually its their land now, because they have papers.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: catracho on July 31, 2014, 12:17:52 AM
Wats the difference between
 1 : me living in my home and somebody walking in and saying with a gun in his hands that all my backyard is his because i dont go there often
 2 indians living from thousand of years on their land and some colonist killing them because actually its their land now, because they have papers.
But in your case, you HAD papers to your backyard right?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 12:25:05 AM
But in your case, you HAD papers to your backyard right?
yup. Its all about papers, aint it?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: catracho on July 31, 2014, 12:26:59 AM
yup. Its all about papers, aint it?
Na, your example was just not a good one in this case.  But I get your meaning, unfortunately.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 12:31:57 AM
Na, your example was just not a good one in this case.  But I get your meaning, unfortunately.
The idea is that the indians (aborigens, north africans etc) didnt need papers until the colonist arrived. What if tommorow russia ocupies all ucraine and say well, this land is mine, u dont have blue papers for this land?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: catracho on July 31, 2014, 12:55:03 AM
The idea is that the indians (aborigens, north africans etc) didnt need papers until the colonist arrived. What if tommorow russia ocupies all ucraine and say well, this land is mine, u dont have blue papers for this land?
He just might!  The world will pass more "sanctions"! lol.  It is a double standard to say the least.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on July 31, 2014, 03:24:10 AM
The idea is that the indians (aborigens, north africans etc) didnt need papers until the colonist arrived. What if tommorow russia ocupies all ucraine and say well, this land is mine, u dont have blue papers for this land?

It's Ukraine not ucraine.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 04:34:21 AM
It's Ukraine not ucraine.
maybe, but it just might be russia in the next months
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 31, 2014, 06:31:00 AM
Surely you jest?  Nay... I think you kid not.

There is but one race and that being human.  Every so-called difference is nothing but a variation on the theme of humanity.  We can and do, have children with one another.  If this were possible with humans and animals then the Arab world would be turgid with kids and by "kids" I mean goatboy and goatgirl kids.  Hmmm... I suspect "Llama-Mama" would be the hot catch phrase among the turbaned zoophiliacs.

It is when someone behaves in an inhuman(e) fashion that any rational being makes a choice and if we as human beings are capable of rational thought and reason how much more so the author of all we see?  My statement about there actually being only two races, smart and stooooopid, was made in jest but also to make a point.  Humans have so much more in common than the differences that so often separate us and yet some people, mostly libtards bent on subjugation via welfare, desire only to celebrate those minor differences.

Cretins like Hamas go a step further.  They want to kill those different from them.  Libtards don't seem to mind this at all and in all honesty I suspect that the only way these zeitgeist of the moment juveniles would ever condemn Hamas and  others of their ilk would  be if they were as white as Michael Jackson in a dream about unicorns,  Diana Ross and Pepsi.  Whitey is eeevile, dontcha know.  It's okay to hate Whitey.

Evil and for that matter stupid, comes in many colors.   

I have no idea if this has helped you or not, but it should.

Be well.


No, your post did not help at all, nice two step, you should go into politics.   If the Israelites are the chosen people as they seem to think they are and many Christians believe that too , then why does god favor one group over another?  Seems to me a kind of racism.  (If there is one race, the human race, then the Arabs, goat fuckers as you call them are your brothers)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Complex Carbs on July 31, 2014, 06:55:30 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);

Hey you retarded son of a bitch.

The difference between the USA and Israel?

One is in america, the other is in the middle east.

You want to make a change?
Go sign up with Hamas if you support their cause and ways so much.

Or run for congress and make some political change.

Posting dumb propaganda on the internet?
HAHA
I crap on your shit posts and thoughts, go fuck yourself, lol, send a letter with your concerns to Netanyahu.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 08:48:30 AM
Hey you retarded son of a bitch.

The difference between the USA and Israel?

One is in america, the other is in the middle east.

You want to make a change?
Go sign up with Hamas if you support their cause and ways so much.

Or run for congress and make some political change.

Posting dumb propaganda on the internet?
HAHA
I crap on your shit posts and thoughts, go fuck yourself, lol, send a letter with your concerns to Netanyahu.


I would sign for native americans hamas, but you ve killed them all. GG
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: forillagorilla on July 31, 2014, 08:53:08 AM
Some retarded Zionists want to take over Palestine because they believe it's now their land. Well, there have been people living their long before you including Jews who were in good relations with Palestinians. However, the Zionists coming mainly from Europe want wars and other bullshit so that they can sponsor both ends and make a profit.

Since this forum is full of U.S. citizens (notice how I don't say Americans) it makes one wonder what is the difference between the U.S. and Israel?

Both countries benefit on wars. BOTH COUNTRIES LIVE ON STOLEN LAND.

U.S. ancestors killed the Indians and took their lands so that they can make their own bullshit there.

Zionist want to take down Palestine (actually some don't - they want the war to continue - remember: chaos out of order);


Just call us Americans - anyone that has been to Mexico or Canada knows that the only country that counts is US!!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 09:07:06 AM
Just call us Americans - anyone that has been to Mexico or Canada knows that the only country that counts is US!!!
counts on killing inocents. yup. Us is no 1 in that!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on July 31, 2014, 09:16:19 AM

No, your post did not help at all, nice two step, you should go into politics.   If the Israelites are the chosen people as they seem to think they are and many Christians believe that too , then why does god favor one group over another?  Seems to me a kind of racism.  (If there is one race, the human race, then the Arabs, goat fuckers as you call them are your brothers)
God favors those who follow his words? are you dumb or smthg.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 31, 2014, 09:53:00 AM
Is this satire or an actual news broadcast? No wonder so many Americans are dense as fuck  ;D

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on July 31, 2014, 09:55:09 AM
Is this satire or an actual news broadcast? No wonder so many Americans are dense as fuck  ;D


the only purpose of russell's video is to show poorer people where he lives and get a kick out of it. Has nothing to do with israel, palestine or the US.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 31, 2014, 10:04:07 AM
the only purpose of russell's video is to show poorer people where he lives and get a kick out of it. Has nothing to do with israel, palestine or the US.

That's what you took out of the video?

Brilliant.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 31, 2014, 10:18:27 AM
Is this satire or an actual news broadcast? No wonder so many Americans are dense as fuck  ;D


Had to stop watching when he said terror is just language and he then went on to compare 60 years of terrorism, suicide bombers and rocket attacks as comparable to a man fighting with a needle against a man with a variety of weapons.  He suggested such acts of terror should be just shrugged of as an annoyance. What a fucking moron.  Way to minimise terrorism.  Imagine how this douchebag describes the 9/11 attacks.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on July 31, 2014, 10:38:21 AM
Had to stop watching when he said terror is just language and he then went on to compare 60 years of terrorism, suicide bombers and rocket attacks as comparable to a man fighting with a needle against a man with a variety of weapons.  He suggested such acts of terror should be just shrugged of as an annoyance. What a fucking moron.  Way to minimise terrorism.  Imagine how this douchebag describes the 9/11 attacks.

False. The critique of language is pretty sound.

American drone wipes out a whole wedding in rural Pakistan = Fog of war.

Relatives of said guests drives a truck of explosives into an American check point = Terrorism.

The analogy of the Palestinians fighting with a needle is fairly accurate, considering the might of the Israeli army. A nuclear power. Hamas fires rockets, how effective are they? How many Israeli's have died as a result?

Show me the minute mark where he suggests 'shrugging of terrorism as an annoyance' haha - you've just made that up.

To conclude, not sure why I'm engaging with someone who has already declared he is happy to see Palestinian children die, but there you go.
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Post by: Radical Plato on July 31, 2014, 10:54:50 AM
False. The critique of language is pretty sound.

American drone wipes out a whole wedding in rural Pakistan = Fog of war.

Relatives of said guests drives a truck of explosives into an American check point = Terrorism.

The analogy of the Palestinians fighting with a needle is fairly accurate, considering the might of the Israeli army. A nuclear power. Hamas fires rockets, how effective are they? How many Israeli's have died as a result?

Show me the minute mark where he suggests 'shrugging of terrorism as an annoyance' haha - you've just made that up.

To conclude, not sure why I'm engaging with someone who has already declared he is happy to see Palestinian children die, but there you go.
You are comparing accidents to deliberate acts, typical of terrorist sympathisers, they love to justify and rationalise terrorism.  So suicide bombers blowing up children is Israel is akin to nothing more than a man fighting with a needle.  Where the fuck do you people get this shit from.  I swear to GOD being a libtard needs to be classified as a disease.  There isn't any indecent act a libtard couldn't excuse, rationalise or justify.

It sounds like what you really resent is strength and Israels ability to defend itself.  Why on earth should they apologize for being strong.  But like attracts like, and the weak identify with the weak.  

A total of 1,194 Israelis and foreigners were killed and 7,000 wounded between September 2000 and August 2010 by Palestinian terror attacks.  This is why they build bomb shelters and missile defense systems, because they actually want to protect their civilians, unlike HAMAS who waste the billions in aid to build terror tunnels and rockets and simply see the population as cannon fodder in the heat of battle.  The sad part is how the Muslim world see you as a useful idiot, someone willing to believe a terrorist religious group who hate and despise you over the word of your own people. HAMAS must be amazed by the gullibility of libtards and their willingness to believe anything they say.  To watch Muslims take such advantage of naive Westerners is indeed a sad state of affairs.

This is why they willingly use children as shields, knowing that libtards everywhere will equate a disproportionate loss of life with immorality, knowing that libtards are incapable of seeing the big picture, that Israel built bomb shelters and missile defence systems to protect its citizens. The Palestinians built tunnels through which they could carry out terror attacks and kidnap Israelis. Should Israel be blamed for successfully protecting its population in a defensive war? I don’t think so.  But if retaliating against Hamas is bound to get innocents killed, and the Israelis manage to protect their own civilians in the meantime, the loss of innocent life on the Palestinian side is guaranteed to be disproportionate.

If anything, libtards support of terrorist tactics like using civilians as shields only encourages terrorist groups like HAMAS to continue doing so.  In effect, the blood of these civilians is on the hands of libtards everywhere.  Shame on you for encouraging such an act.

And by comparing terrorism to something minor and trivial thing like a man attacking you with a pin while you had several weapons is to suggest that terrorism is no big deal, something to be shrugged off.

To conclude, I don't know how comfortable I am debating with someone who encourages adults to raise children as terrorists who have no hesitation to use them as human shields and teach them to be suicide bombers.  Only a libtard could want that for a child.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The Scott on July 31, 2014, 11:01:12 AM

No, your post did not help at all, nice two step, you should go into politics.   If the Israelites are the chosen people as they seem to think they are and many Christians believe that too , then why does god favor one group over another?  Seems to me a kind of racism.  (If there is one race, the human race, then the Arabs, goat fuckers as you call them are your brothers)

If they're my brothers then how come I've never seen 'em at my mom's for Thanksgiving?  It's not like we're having just pork roast.   ;D  We've also got a Honey Baked Ham!

So what we have here is not a failure to communicate but two people that will just have to agree to disagree.  I've been more than agreeable and suggest you try harder because the reality of all this is that this ain't the Matrix and neither of us is "Neo". 

I need to stop using metaphors, don't I?  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on July 31, 2014, 01:23:27 PM
God favors those who follow his words? are you dumb or smthg.

Then your up shit creek without a paddle.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on July 31, 2014, 02:39:24 PM
maybe, but it just might be russia in the next months

Yeah right, Putin is now in deep shit from Russian oligarch's ........
Russian English TV news is ;D ;D ;D , regarding to them fascists army is attacking 'Donetsk Republic' .........


Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: manuelsonn on July 31, 2014, 10:03:41 PM
Yeah right, Putin is now in deep shit from Russian oligarch's ........
Russian English TV news is ;D ;D ;D , regarding to them fascists army is attacking 'Donetsk Republic' .........



i dont know if u re german, but u sound like one. Whats your opinion about your securyty service who spies u togheter with americans? Where is your gold?

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on July 31, 2014, 10:05:12 PM
We have the right to defend ourselves.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Mr. MB on August 01, 2014, 09:25:12 AM
There are only 6,100,000 Jews living in Israel. Smaller than Los Angeles County. They are surrounded by the sea to the west and 100+ million Arabs on their borders.

If Hamas and Hezbollah killed 1,000 Jews in the past 10 years (factoid) that would be the same as the USA having 50,000 Americans killed by Canada and Mexico in 10 years.  We just might get somewhat nervous and a little pissed. Ya think?

So when you hear 50 Jews died in the Hezbollah shelling a few years back THAT IS THE SAME AS OUR LOSS IN THE TWIN TOWERS!!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 01, 2014, 03:27:48 PM
i dont know if u re german, but u sound like one. Whats your opinion about your securyty service who spies u togheter with americans? Where is your gold?



I am on the beach at this moment & "spying " on slim blond pussy  :D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 03:09:39 AM
 :o
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 03:16:24 AM
pathetic excuse for their ethnic cleansing
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 03:43:52 AM
pathetic excuse for their ethnic cleansing
Fuck off drama queen.    No one is being ethnically cleansed. And coming from someone who excuses extreme terrorism and supports a group who are desperately trying to ethnically cleanse an entire race of people, you really are a piece of work.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Lustral on August 02, 2014, 04:23:46 AM
Had to stop watching when he said terror is just language and he then went on to compare 60 years of terrorism, suicide bombers and rocket attacks as comparable to a man fighting with a needle against a man with a variety of weapons.  He suggested such acts of terror should be just shrugged of as an annoyance. What a fucking moron.  Way to minimise terrorism.  Imagine how this douchebag describes the 9/11 attacks.

If I saw Russel Brand in a pub this is how it would go down:

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 04:58:13 AM
Fuck off drama queen.    No one is being ethnically cleansed. And coming from someone who excuses extreme terrorism and supports a group who are desperately trying to ethnically cleanse an entire race of people, you really are a piece of work.

Drama queen, coming from the 'man' who writes walls and walls of pure anger. You are certainly the most hateful piece of work on getbig. You are without 'heart' bereft of compassion, if anyone needs ethnically cleansed its people like you. I have many Jewish friends so don't worry I am not an anti-semite.

If the Palestinians are trying to ethnically cleanse Israelis they are not doing a good job at it, and surely know they lack the power to do so anyway, on the other hand Isreal is wiping out entire neighbourhoods, flattening peoples homes to the ground for what? you know well whats going on but you will not admit it.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 02, 2014, 05:21:12 AM
There are only 6,100,000 Jews living in Israel. Smaller than Los Angeles County. They are surrounded by the sea to the west and 100+ million Arabs on their borders.

If Hamas and Hezbollah killed 1,000 Jews in the past 10 years (factoid) that would be the same as the USA having 50,000 Americans killed by Canada and Mexico in 10 years.  We just might get somewhat nervous and a little pissed. Ya think?

So when you hear 50 Jews died in the Hezbollah shelling a few years back THAT IS THE SAME AS OUR LOSS IN THE TWIN TOWERS!!!

1000 Jews in ten years vs 1600 Palestinians in two weeks. Hmmmm.    ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 05:27:00 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 05:36:16 AM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Tapeworm on August 02, 2014, 06:04:13 AM
It's Ukraine.

Not anymore.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 06:06:31 AM
Only morons support Palestine.


I ask you morons, what good has any Palestinian ever done for the world, for humanity?

I will just leave this here.
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 06:19:08 AM
Drama queen, coming from the 'man' who writes walls and walls of pure anger. You are certainly the most hateful piece of work on getbig. You are without 'heart' bereft of compassion, if anyone needs ethnically cleansed its people like you. I have many Jewish friends so don't worry I am not an anti-semite.

If the Palestinians are trying to ethnically cleanse Israelis they are not doing a good job at it, and surely know they lack the power to do so anyway, on the other hand Isreal is wiping out entire neighbourhoods, flattening peoples homes to the ground for what? you know well whats going on but you will not admit it.

If the Palestinians had nuclear weapons, they would use them on Israel immediately.  They do not hide this tenet, its even found in political literature distributed by Hamas and the "official" Palestinian "government".   And if Israel wanted to take out whole communities in Gaza, or the whole Gaza strip, they could do so in about 30 minutes, but they don`t.

Ever stop to wonder why that is?  One side is full of rational secularists who continue to benefit humanity and have a moral compass.  The other side only has one goal, total destruction in the name of allah. 

I guess the hardcore Islamic rhetoric appeals to the simple brain like yours Big Ro.  When will you be moving to Gaza to help the fight?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 06:42:20 AM
And if Israel wanted to take out whole communities in Gaza, or the whole Gaza strip, they could do so in about 30 minutes, but they don`t.

Oh yeah, they're showing real restraint...just the 1,886 Palestinian children  ::)

Hamas are the elected government, not sure why you're presenting them as two separate entity's - brutal knowledge  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 06:43:48 AM
Radical islam as a whole, is destroying the world.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 06:46:10 AM
Radical islam as a whole, is destroying the world.

Isn't alcoholism and capitalism more of a threat to you?

Don't get distracted now 'Shizzo' - that's what they want.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 06:50:03 AM
Oh yeah, they're showing real restraint...just the 1,886 Palestinian children  ::)

Hamas are the elected government, not sure why you're presenting them as two separate entity's - brutal knowledge  ;D
Hamas will always exist apart from whatever happens to Palestine and their origin predate any "government" involvement in Gaza.  They are a splinter of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.  It is a separate terrorist entity.


The Palestinians are to blame for the deaths of their children.  They started the war, they hide behind their women and children, they continually break any cease fire agreements.  They are useless to the world and to humanity.

Again, what good are they to the rest of the world?  
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 06:55:34 AM
Hamas will always exist apart from whatever happens to Palestine and their origin predate any "government" involvement in Gaza.  They are a splinter of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood.  It is a separate terrorist entity.


The Palestinians are to blame for the deaths of their children.  They started the war, they hide behind their women and children, they continually break any cease fire agreements.  They are useless to the world and to humanity.

Again, what good are they to the rest of the world?  

Throw the word 'terrorist' around, most of the world thinks America is a terrorist state.

Epic attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians, pretty sure that's what the Germans did with the Jews to justify their barbaric actions.

(http://archive.4chon.net/new/2210486/src_1341609576817.jpg)
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Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 06:59:09 AM
Throw the word 'terrorist' around, most of the world thinks America is a terrorist state.

Epic attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians, pretty sure that's what the Germans did with the Jews to justify their barbaric actions.

(http://archive.4chon.net/new/2210486/src_1341609576817.jpg)
Are you Muslim noc?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 07:07:23 AM
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Hamas official, Ismail Radwan, praises Palestinians in Gaza for sacrificing woman, children and elderly. He congratulates them for "re-drawing the map of the homeland with your blood and body parts".



This is the type of scum Israel has to deal with.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 07:12:22 AM
Are you Muslim noc?

No - atheist.

Shalom.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 07:15:03 AM
No - atheist.

Shalom.
I dont have a religion either. Why do you seem so one sided on this conflict?

Where do you live?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 07:15:10 AM
Throw the word 'terrorist' around, most of the world thinks America is a terrorist state.

Epic attempt to dehumanise the Palestinians, pretty sure that's what the Germans did with the Jews to justify their barbaric actions.

(http://archive.4chon.net/new/2210486/src_1341609576817.jpg)
Are you joking?  Serious, you do now they are called terrorists because they regularly commit acts of terrorism.  You do know that the Arabs supported Hitler?  You do know that the Palestinians dehumanise the Jews constantly and with the support of over 1 billion Muslims is probably the reason you are supporting the terrorists and not the minority (The Jews).  You do know that the Palestinian Government (Hamas), who the people voluntarily voted in wrote a charter highlighting that they wont stop until the have eradicated the Jew from the Planet?  You do realise this is the same agenda as Hitler had?  You do realise the absurdity of comparing a terrorist organization committed to eradicating the Jews as akin to the Jews Plight in Nazi Germany?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 07:19:10 AM
Are you joking?  Serious, you do now they are called terrorists because they regularly commit acts of terrorism.  You do know that the Arabs supported Hitler?  You do know that the Palestinians dehumanise the Jews constantly and with the support of over 1 billion Muslims is probably the reason you are supporting the terrorists and not the minority (The Jews).  You do now that the Palestinian Government (Hamas), who the people voluntarily voted in wrote a charter highlighting that they wont stop until the have eradicated the Jew from the Planet?  You do realise this is the same agenda as Hitler had?  You do realise the absurdity of comparing a terrorist organization committed to eradicating the Jews as akin to the Jews Plight in Nazi Germany?
noc is a moron and sides with terrorists and the creation of an Islamic state based on Sharia Law.  Somehow he sees this as progress for humanity.  Perhaps its the subjugation of women he likes.  Who knows?  ???
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 07:22:46 AM
Drama queen, coming from the 'man' who writes walls and walls of pure anger. You are certainly the most hateful piece of work on getbig. You are without 'heart' bereft of compassion, if anyone needs ethnically cleansed its people like you. I have many Jewish friends so don't worry I am not an anti-semite.

If the Palestinians are trying to ethnically cleanse Israelis they are not doing a good job at it, and surely know they lack the power to do so anyway, on the other hand Isreal is wiping out entire neighbourhoods, flattening peoples homes to the ground for what? you know well whats going on but you will not admit it.

lol, gotta love it when people claim to be compassionate and then in the next sentence call for genocide.  You are proof of the unconscious EVIL that every Libtard carries around in their heart, thinking they are a good guy, but supporting causes that cause untold suffering to humanity.

Sadly, you have no idea who you are, you can't support a terrorist organization dedicated to the eradication of the jews and NOT be an anti-semite.  And you are right, the palestinians are shithouse at fulfilling their goal, they are a pathetic people.  But with IRAN supporting them and on the brink of developing nuclear bombs, the world is on the brink of World War 3 THANKS TO LIBTARDS LIKE YOU.

And flattening peoples homes to the ground for what?  To kill the terrorists dickhead, why the fuck else would they do it.  Many Palestinians volunteer to be human shields, others volunteer their homes to connect to underground tunnels or store rockets, those that don't go along are punished by HAMAS.  Sadly, you are too stupid or naive, not sure which to understand the mindset of such people, they are fueled by HATRED programmed into them from birth.  I have ZERO sympathy for a people that vote in a terrorist group as their government whose motto is "We love death more than the Jew loves life"
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 07:24:26 AM
noc is a moron and sides with terrorists and the creation of an Islamic state based on Sharia Law.  Somehow he sees this as progress for humanity.  Perhaps its the subjugation of women he likes.  Who knows?  ???
I think it's the lure of multiple child brides that wins him over to Islam.  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 07:28:59 AM
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Hamas official, Ismail Radwan, praises Palestinians in Gaza for sacrificing woman, children and elderly. He congratulates them for "re-drawing the map of the homeland with your blood and body parts".



This is the type of scum Israel has to deal with.
WTF? How can any rational, reasonable individual side with such overt evil.  Libtards and Muslims are equally dangerous to the future of humanity.  I think if humanity ceases to exist, you can rest assured the Libtards caused it because they felt sorry for Evil.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 02, 2014, 07:30:42 AM
every Jewish person I know, is educated, cultured, accomplished and wealthy.

Jewish people are a  major asset to humanity. yes, they take care of their own...what race, nationality etc doesnt ?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 07:32:31 AM
Ron gave us the utopia we call Getbig.

Ron is jewish.

End of thread.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 07:50:12 AM
every Jewish person I know, is educated, cultured, accomplished and wealthy.

Jewish people are a  major asset to humanity. yes, they take care of their own...what race, nationality etc doesnt ?
Palestinians.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 08:33:57 AM
If the Palestinians had nuclear weapons, they would use them on Israel immediately.  They do not hide this tenet, its even found in political literature distributed by Hamas and the "official" Palestinian "government".   And if Israel wanted to take out whole communities in Gaza, or the whole Gaza strip, they could do so in about 30 minutes, but they don`t.

Ever stop to wonder why that is?  One side is full of rational secularists who continue to benefit humanity and have a moral compass.  The other side only has one goal, total destruction in the name of allah. 

I guess the hardcore Islamic rhetoric appeals to the simple brain like yours Big Ro.  When will you be moving to Gaza to help the fight?

you can take your secular rational helping humanity bullshit and shove it up your arse. Fact is Palestine does not possess nuclear weapons or anything close to that. I think hard line Islam is delusional but a people have a right to fight for their rights and also receive international intervention when big brother is decimating them indiscriminately, I have seen enough evidence that they couldn't be less precise with how they are taking out there beloved Hamas rocket men.

Just because I am built like a shit house and believe rather know God exists don't take me for a fool you atheist asshole.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 08:38:00 AM
you can take your secular rational helping humanity bullshit and shove it up your arse. Fact is Palestine does not possess nuclear weapons or anything close to that. I think hard line Islam is delusional but a people have a right to fight for their rights and also receive international intervention when big brother is decimating them indiscriminately, I have seen enough evidence that they couldn't be less precise with how they are taking out there beloved Hamas rocket men.

Just because I am built like a shit house and believe rather know God exists don't take me for a fool you atheist asshole.


You are nothing but all drugs.  Without them, you are a non-entity.

Furthermore, the moron Palestinians would have more rights living in Israel than they would with their own shit hole Hamas "government" and Sharia Law.  They are in effect fighting for the right to brutalize their own people with Sharia Law.

Only morons with no brains, such as yourself, think this ideology is a good one to foster and spread.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 08:41:46 AM
Adonis laying a beatdown on BigRo of biblical proportions.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 02, 2014, 08:42:04 AM
In Israel they say america runs everything.

In American they say the jews run everything.

In Palestine they say the americans always favor the jews.

In canada they say its cold for six months of the year.

In Iran they say homosexuals are awsome.

Which of these is false ???


:) Best post in the thread.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 08:54:17 AM
you can take your secular rational helping humanity bullshit and shove it up your arse. Fact is Palestine does not possess nuclear weapons or anything close to that. I think hard line Islam is delusional but a people have a right to fight for their rights (EXCEPT THE JEWS) and also receive international intervention when big brother is decimating them indiscriminately, I have seen enough evidence that they couldn't be less precise with how they are taking out there beloved Hamas rocket men.

^^^^ Epic Roid Rage Meltdown
And you conveniently left out that you believe people have a right to fight for their rights EXCEPT THE JEWS.  To be a libtard must take a lot of energy, internal conflict and be a very confusing state to find yourself in.
Quote
Just because I am built like ashit house and believe rather know God exists don't take me for a fool you atheist asshole.

Fixed
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 08:57:21 AM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-rockets-exploding-in-gaza-strip/

More than a third of the 140 rockets fired by Hamas at Israel yesterday fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip
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Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 09:00:15 AM
(http://ivarfjeld.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/hamassuicidebombercartoon.jpg)

(http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/0/0/2/7/0/2/1/2/1/libtard-99641909378.jpeg)
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Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 02, 2014, 09:04:29 AM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-rockets-exploding-in-gaza-strip/

More than a third of the 140 rockets fired by Hamas at Israel yesterday fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip
Radical, terrorist moron scum. Destroy them all at any cost.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 09:22:47 AM
http://freebeacon.com/national-security/hamas-rockets-exploding-in-gaza-strip/

More than a third of the 140 rockets fired by Hamas at Israel yesterday fell short and exploded inside the Gaza Strip

...according to the Israeli Army spokesman’s office
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 09:27:32 AM
...according to the Israeli Army spokesman’s office
So you believe the word of Islamic fundamentalists who hate Western Society and who run a terrorist dictatorial government and use children and civilians as human shields over the word of a democratic, civilised and prosperous society.

Alrighty then, now we are starting to see the depth of your depraved worldview.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 09:28:37 AM
Sorry, but I am pro Israel. Israel has the balls that the U.S. doesn't.

Terrorism needs to be dealt with.

Look to the movie Swordfish for proper explanation.

You hit terrorists twice as hard as they hit you.

Israel knows how to defend itself.

Radical muslims are the only ones that are butthurt.

Innocents getting killed in Palestine, are on the heads of Hamas.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 09:36:21 AM
 :o
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Tapeworm on August 02, 2014, 10:03:47 AM
Sure there is.

That part of the world is full of batshit crazy zealots.  If you weren't a zealot you'd say fuck this, it's not worth my life, and move elsewhere.  You'd be hard pressed to find an American with that depth of belief in anything.  We're too practical for that, as a rule.  We'd rather eat nachos than die for a cause, which makes good sense to me.

And the US population has never sustained a single war for a lifetime, nevermind generation after generation back through the mists of fucking time.  We like a little halftime break - dog 'n a beer - before the next one kicks off.  We need to see an objective achieved, or at least some punctuation between our wars.  That's how we think of war.  It starts, gets fought, and then it ends.  That's not what they have over there.  I have trouble wrapping my American mind around what the hell it is.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 10:07:20 AM
Alrighty then, now we are starting to see the depth of your depraved worldview.

Depraved haha, coming from the person who has stated he's HAPPY to see children dying.

Sorry, but I am pro Israel.

Thank fuck for that  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 10:12:49 AM
Depraved haha, coming from the person who has stated he's HAPPY to see children dying.

Yes, I would prefer to see such children put out of their misery.  If we are unable to intervene and prevent them experiencing their entire childhood being abused,being brainwashed, taught to hate, taught to be a terrorist, used as a human shield, kept ignorant, used as a pawn for terrorists.  Yes, I truly think they are better of dead.  To be OK with the way such children are being raised in an obviously deeply abusive fashion isn't something I could in good conscience be OK with.  Not to mention the odds that quite a large number of these kids will grow up to be terrorists and potentially kill more kids. 

If their was another way to intervene and remove these children or prevent them having them in the first place, I would accept that option in a heartbeat.  It's a little bit like the issue of parents learning they are going to give birth to a disabled or handicapped child, sometimes they are better off dead.  Personally, I don't believe such people should be able to have children.

The difference between you and I, you prefer to see children suffer generation after generation indefinitely, and I wish to see an end to that suffering.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Yes, I would prefer to see such children put out of their misery.  If we are unable to intervene and prevent them experiencing their entire childhood being abused,being brainwashed, taught to hate, taught to be a terrorist, used as a human shield, kept ignorant, used as a pawn for terrorists.  Yes, I truly think they are better of dead.  To be OK with the way such children are being raised in an obviously deeply abusive fashion isn't something I could in good conscience be OK with.  Not to mention the odds that quite a large number of these kids will grow up to be terrorists and potentially kill more kids. 

If their was another way to intervene and remove these children or prevent them having them in the first place, I would accept that option in a heartbeat.  It's a little bit like the issue of parents learning they are going to give birth to a disabled or handicapped child, sometimes they are better off dead.  Personally, I don't believe such people should be able to have children.

The difference between you and I, you prefer to see children suffer generation after generation indefinitely, and I wish to see an end to that suffering.

Out of curiosity, has there been a string of unsolved murders involving prostitutes in your area?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 10:53:08 AM
You are nothing but all drugs.  Without them, you are a non-entity.

Furthermore, the moron Palestinians would have more rights living in Israel than they would with their own shit hole Hamas "government" and Sharia Law.  They are in effect fighting for the right to brutalize their own people with Sharia Law.

Only morons with no brains, such as yourself, think this ideology is a good one to foster and spread.



lol I trained many years naturally, know how to build muscle naturally and never pretend to be better than others because of my physique. When I have had enough with competitive bodybuilding I will 'slim down'  no doubt and may not get the attention I get now but being a non-entity is not something I am afraid of, infact its the greatest source of Joy to be no-body. You however seem afraid of being nothing by the fact that you presented it to me as a negative, very proud of your natural status and very prideful of your scientific brain.

Where did I say I agreed with Sharia law? my argument is about the slaughter of innocent civilians something you and your bro Anus Kul seem to have no problem with supporting.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 10:56:06 AM
Out of curiosity, has there been a string of unsolved murders involving prostitutes in your area?
Why, has your MUM gone missing?

See, here you go again with your libtard nonsense, it is you who is immoral, who sponsors terrorism, who causes innocent children to be killed, abused, used as shields.  You openly support all this and think in some bizarro backwards arse universe that is the moral thing to do.  It is you who is EVIL, you are just unconscious to it and project it onto others.  Hope this helps.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 10:58:53 AM
lol I trained many years naturally, know how to build muscle naturally and never pretend to be better than others because of my physique. When I have had enough with competitive bodybuilding I will 'slim down'  no doubt and may not get the attention I get now but being a non-entity is not something I am afraid of, infact its the greatest source of Joy to be no-body. You however seem afraid of being nothing by the fact that you presented it to me as a negative, very proud of your natural status and very prideful of your scientific brain.

Where did I say I agreed with Sharia law? my argument is about the slaughter of innocent civilians  something you and your bro Anus Kul seem to have no problem with supporting.
That is happening on both sides. Both Israel and palestine live too close not to have collateral damage.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 11:00:51 AM
lol I trained many years naturally, know how to build muscle naturally and never pretend to be better than others because of my physique. When I have had enough with competitive bodybuilding I will 'slim down'  no doubt and my not get the attention I get now but being a non-entity is not something I am afraid of, infact its the greatest source of Joy to be no-body. You however seem afraid of being nothing by the fact that you presented it to me as a negative, very proud of your natural status and very prideful of your scientific brain.

Where did I say I agreed with Sharia law? my argument is about the slaughter of innocent civilians something you and your bro Anus Kul seem to have no problem with supporting.
But yet you have no problem with Jews being killed and support a group dedicated to the eradication of their entire race.  HHMMM, so what you are saying is you don't want innocent civilians killed unless they are JEWS.  Anti-semite much.

So you resent the Jews because they do a good job of protecting their civilians because they care enough too and you support HAMAS because they don't give a fuck about civilians or whether they live or die and refuse to protect them.  If you are so concerned about Palestinian children being unjustly killed, why do you not blame those responsible? -->HAMAS.

The irony of your libtard views is if tomorrow IRAN in support of HAMAS dropped a nuclear bomb on Israel eradicating the entire Country you will be then asking why didn't the JEWS do something to prevent it or they deserved what they got.  No matter what the JEWS do, libtards always find a way to blame them.  First they were too passive and let the NAZIS walk them into the Gas Chambers, now there to aggressive because they won't allow a fascist regime try and do it a second time.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 11:02:15 AM
lol I trained many years naturally, know how to build muscle naturally and never pretend to be better than others because of my physique. When I have had enough with competitive bodybuilding I will 'slim down'  no doubt and may not get the attention I get now but being a non-entity is not something I am afraid of, infact its the greatest source of Joy to be no-body. You however seem afraid of being nothing by the fact that you presented it to me as a negative, very proud of your natural status and very prideful of your scientific brain.

Where did I say I agreed with Sharia law? my argument is about the slaughter of innocent civilians something you and your bro Anus Kul seem to have no problem with supporting.
Yes, we know that you trained many years naturally and that you know how to build a great natural physique.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/190432_193364224030415_7229759_n.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 11:02:20 AM
See, here you go again with your libtard nonsense, it is you who is immoral, who sponsors terrorism, who causes innocent children to be killed, abused, used as shields.  You openly support all this and think in some bizarro backwards arse universe that is the moral thing to do.  It is you who is EVIL, you are just unconscious to it and project it onto others.  Hope this helps.

I'm going to take that as yes, were you 'saving' them?

Did you collect trophies?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Palpatine Q on August 02, 2014, 11:05:32 AM
Sure there is.

That part of the world is full of batshit crazy zealots.  If you weren't a zealot you'd say fuck this, it's not worth my life, and move elsewhere.  You'd be hard pressed to find an American with that depth of belief in anything.  We're too practical for that, as a rule.  We'd rather eat nachos than die for a cause, which makes good sense to me.

And the US population has never sustained a single war for a lifetime, nevermind generation after generation back through the mists of fucking time.  We like a little halftime break - dog 'n a beer - before the next one kicks off.  We need to see an objective achieved, or at least some punctuation between our wars.  That's how we think of war.  It starts, gets fought, and then it ends.  That's not what they have over there.  I have trouble wrapping my American mind around what the hell it is.

this. they hate you because their father hated you, and their father's father hated you.

I would actually admire their cultural and familial convictions, if they weren't so fucking backwards and barbaric
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 11:07:57 AM
Yes, we know that you trained many years naturally and that you know how to build a great natural physique.

(https://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t1.0-9/190432_193364224030415_7229759_n.jpg)

I hadn't touched a weight in years here.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 11:09:08 AM
That is happening on both sides. Both Israel and palestine live too close not to have collateral damage.

Vastly disproportionate.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 11:13:11 AM
But yet you have no problem with Jews being killed and support a group dedicated to the eradication of their entire race.  HHMMM, so what you are saying is you don't want innocent civilians killed unless they are JEWS.  Anti-semite much.

So you resent the Jews because they do a good job of protecting their civilians because they care enough too and you support HAMAS because they don't give a fuck about civilians or whether they live or die and refuse to protect them.  If you are so concerned about Palestinian children being unjustly killed, why do you not blame those responsible? -->HAMAS.

The irony of your libtard views is if tomorrow IRAN in support of HAMAS dropped a nuclear bomb on Israel eradicating the entire Country you will be then asking why didn't the JEWS do something to prevent it or they deserved what they got.  No matter what the JEWS do, libtards always find a way to blame them.  First they were too passive and let the NAZIS walk them into the Gas Chambers, now there to aggressive because they won't allow a fascist regime try and do it a second time.

Your putting words in my mouth. I dont want to see Jews being killed nor do I want to see Sharia law spread at all. You know what my concern is so stop with the childishness especially calling everyone with a working moral compass a libtard. You must go to bed exhausted at night the amount of energy you invest in working for the Israeli government.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 11:13:48 AM
Vastly disproportionate.
::)
Yes, because Jewish terrorism is a threat to democracies and civilization all around the world.  

You really are one of the dumber ones on this site.  Its pathetic really.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 11:17:25 AM
Vastly disproportionate.
Did you ever stop to ask yourself why that is?  You fail to realise that by supporting the people responsible for this disproportion (HAMAS), you are in effect also responsible for these civilian deaths.  When HAMAS fails to protect it's citizens and uses them as cannon fodder and libtards support them, it emboldens them so they do it more.  Libtards like yourself point the finger all over the place when it should be pointing at you, yes, people like you are responsible for this disproportionate innocent loss of life, you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.  I am convinced that Muslims must laugh at useful idiots like yourself who aren't able to see their EVIL ways and actually blame the other side who overtly tries to avoid collateral damage.  When was the last time HAMAS warned Israeli citizens of an incoming rocket?  Who uses suicide bombers?  Who punishes civilians if they refuse to be a human shield?

You are obviously to proud and stupid to acknowledge that you support such evil and will probably continue doing so, but hey who cares if countless innocent people die because of your wicked ideology, as long as you feel good about yourself right, that's all that matters.

Quote from Sam harris:

"The Muslims are acting on the assumption—the knowledge, in fact—that the infidels with whom they fight, the very people whom their religion does nothing but vilify, will be deterred by their use of Muslim human shields. They consider the Jews the spawn of apes and pigs—and yet they rely on the fact that they don’t want to kill Muslim noncombatants.

Now imagine reversing the roles here. Imagine how fatuous—indeed comical it would be—for the Israelis to attempt to use human shields to deter the Palestinians. Some claim that they have already done this. There are reports that Israeli soldiers have occasionally put Palestinian civilians in front of them as they’ve advanced into dangerous areas. That’s not the use of human shields we’re talking about. It’s egregious behavior. No doubt it constitutes a war crime. But Imagine the Israelis holding up their own women and children as human shields. Of course, that would be ridiculous. The Palestinians are trying to kill everyone. Killing women and children is part of the plan. Reversing the roles here produces a grotesque Monty Python skit."
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
Your putting words in my mouth. I dont want to see Jews being killed nor do I want to see Sharia law spread at all. You know what my concern is so stop with the childishness especially calling everyone with a working moral compass a libtard. You must go to bed exhausted at night the amount of energy you invest in working for the Israeli government.
How many chances has Hamas had to abide by a cease fire, yet they break it?  The one on Friday lasted 90 minutes.  They have already said they will never stop until every Jew is killed.  Israel bends over backwards for these atrocious people and they really don't have to do so according to International Law, yet they do.

What has Palestine brought to the table other than breaking cease fires, Sharia Law, the promise to kill every Jew, human shields, suicide bombers, the subjugation of women and children and a way of life and ideology straight from the 7th century.

Only one side wants peace and its not Palestine.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 11:25:41 AM
How many chances has Hamas had to abide by a cease fire, yet they break it?  The one on Friday lasted 90 minutes.  They have already said they will never stop until every Jew is killed.  Israel bends over backwards for these atrocious people and they really don't have to do so according to International Law, yet they do.

What has Palestine brought to the table other than breaking cease fires, Sharia Law, the promise to kill every Jew, human shields, suicide bombers, the subjugation of women and children and a way of life and ideology straight from the 7th century.

Only one side wants peace and its not Palestine.


True Adonis killing it in this thread. Radical muslims live in the stone age.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 11:25:45 AM
Your putting words in my mouth. I dont want to see Jews being killed nor do I want to see Sharia law spread at all. You know what my concern is so stop with the childishness especially calling everyone with a working moral compass a libtard. You must go to bed exhausted at night the amount of energy you invest in working for the Israeli government.
The issue is your naivety, when someone hates you and wants you and your children dead and will take any opportunity to do so, even sacrificing their own children by using them as a shield, you can't reason with such people.  Do you try and kill them even though they hide amongst innocent civilians, including children, or do you just let them succeed with their plans and kill your children.  I know what I would do ten times out of ten.  In such a scenario someones kids are going to be killed, the question is, do you let it be your children or theirs?

Here is the difference.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8yBmwXW4XEM/S9oEeGF8Z5I/AAAAAAAAGPg/G1lrV8stRGA/s400/A+AAHamas_Israel_Gaza_hiding_behind_babies.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 11:27:57 AM
How many chances has Hamas had to abide by a cease fire, yet they break it?  The one on Friday lasted 90 minutes.  They have already said they will never stop until every Jew is killed.  Israel bends over backwards for these atrocious people and they really don't have to do so according to International Law, yet they do.

What has Palestine brought to the table other than breaking cease fires, Sharia Law, the promise to kill every Jew, human shields, suicide bombers, the subjugation of women and children and a way of life and ideology straight from the 7th century.

Only one side wants peace and its not Palestine.



The ceasefire on friday was broken by Israel.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 02, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
The ceasefire on friday was broken by Israel.
Hamas is not innocent BigRo. In fact, they are the reason that innocent Palestinians are getting killed.

Stupid, radical muslims, are exactly the same as stupid, radical christians. The only difference, is that stupid, radical muslims far outnumber all other religious zealots.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 11:32:59 AM
The ceasefire on friday was broken by Israel.
You are one dumb midgetheaded sonofabitch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/02/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict.html


Palestinian militants sprang from the ground and confronted Israeli soldiers Friday morning, as they have repeatedly in recent days. This time, Israeli officials said, one exploded a suicide belt while another unleashed machine-gun fire. This time, two Israeli soldiers were killed and the militants apparently escaped with a third.

The attack, at the start of what was supposed to be a 72-hour pause in the fighting, escalated the deadly 25-day battle between Israel and Hamas, the Islamist faction that dominates the Gaza Strip.

Israel said the attack, from under a house near the southern border town of Rafah, took place at 9:20 a.m., soon after the 8 a.m. onset of the temporary truce secured by the Obama administration and the United Nations, whose leaders squarely blamed the breakdown on Hamas
.


    

Hamas’s account was confused. One leader was quoted claiming responsibility for the soldier’s capture, then backtracked. Others contended that the clash unfolded at 7 a.m., before the cease-fire, although Palestinian reports of fighting near Rafah came three hours later. And one said that in any case, the Hamas gunmen acted only to counter “Zionist incursions.”
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 11:46:26 AM

Broke a 72 hour pause haha. 72 hours till they get bombed to fuck again.

What about the ceasefire in November 2012? U.N figures state that for a whole 3 months, not one rocket left Gaza. Meanwhile, Israel bombed Gaza multiple times.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 11:56:43 AM

Broke a 72 hour pause haha. 72 hours till they get bombed to fuck again.

What about the ceasefire in November 2012? U.N figures state that for a whole 3 months, not one rocket left Gaza. Meanwhile, Israel bombed Gaza multiple times.

What planet do you live on exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2012

Month    Missiles launched    Effect of missiles    Retaliation by Israel
   Rockets    Mortars    Killed    Injured    Killed    Injured
January    9    7             
February    36    1          1    1
March    173    19       14    26    
April    10                
May    3                
June    83    11       1       
July    18    9       1       
August    21    3       1       
September    17    8       7       
October    116    55          8    2
November    1734    83    6    45    6    51
December    1                
Total    2,221    196    6    69    41    54
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 12:00:10 PM

Broke a 72 hour pause haha. 72 hours till they get bombed to fuck again.

What about the ceasefire in November 2012? U.N figures state that for a whole 3 months, not one rocket left Gaza. Meanwhile, Israel bombed Gaza multiple times.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Simple Simon on August 02, 2014, 12:01:54 PM
(http://www.idfblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/graph-640x640.jpg)
Stats supplied by?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 02, 2014, 12:02:45 PM
What planet do you live on exactly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2012

Month    Missiles launched    Effect of missiles    Retaliation by Israel
   Rockets    Mortars    Killed    Injured    Killed    Injured
January    9    7             
February    36    1          1    1
March    173    19       14    26    
April    10                
May    3                
June    83    11       1       
July    18    9       1       
August    21    3       1       
September    17    8       7       
October    116    55          8    2
November    1734    83    6    45    6    51
December    1                
Total    2,221    196    6    69    41    54

Source: Israeli Security Agency haha
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 12:10:13 PM
Source: Israeli Security Agency haha
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/xrMike/guns/SnipersHideHottie.png)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israels-propaganda-machine-is-finally-starting-to-misfire-9636417.html
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 02, 2014, 02:34:24 PM
The ceasefire on friday was broken by Israel.

 ::) reported on Al Jazeera  ::)

How was ramadan diet Ro ?

 :D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 03:02:47 PM
good I feasted on barbied Jew at night with some steamed asparagus and chianti
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Zillotch on August 02, 2014, 03:11:15 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v84/xrMike/guns/SnipersHideHottie.png)

Sexy bitch.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 02, 2014, 03:33:10 PM
good I feasted on barbied Jew at night with some steamed asparagus and chianti

  ??? But Arabs love sweets  ;D
  Why is almost every Gaza pussy so chubby  ::) traditional Arab laziness or ....
 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 05:24:45 PM
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/israels-propaganda-machine-is-finally-starting-to-misfire-9636417.html
Your continual reliance on opinion pieces in lieu of facts is starting to misfire. 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 02, 2014, 08:52:08 PM
your cock misfires.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 09:43:59 PM
You are one dumb midgetheaded sonofabitch.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/02/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-conflict.html


Palestinian militants sprang from the ground and confronted Israeli soldiers Friday morning, as they have repeatedly in recent days. This time, Israeli officials said, one exploded a suicide belt while another unleashed machine-gun fire. This time, two Israeli soldiers were killed and the militants apparently escaped with a third.

The attack, at the start of what was supposed to be a 72-hour pause in the fighting, escalated the deadly 25-day battle between Israel and Hamas, the Islamist faction that dominates the Gaza Strip.

Israel said the attack, from under a house near the southern border town of Rafah, took place at 9:20 a.m., soon after the 8 a.m. onset of the temporary truce secured by the Obama administration and the United Nations, whose leaders squarely blamed the breakdown on Hamas
.


    

Hamas’s account was confused. One leader was quoted claiming responsibility for the soldier’s capture, then backtracked. Others contended that the clash unfolded at 7 a.m., before the cease-fire, although Palestinian reports of fighting near Rafah came three hours later. And one said that in any case, the Hamas gunmen acted only to counter “Zionist incursions.”
And you believe this ? Fuck you are stupid.. All your information comes from Zionist sources .

You are going on about Palestine and Terrorism - Israel are the culprits and please show me what threat Palestine
"Terrorists" have on Democracies ? Certainly not there own as they don't live in one Because Israel wont let them.

Nothing in that area is equal and The Palestinians are treated like the "Poor Jews" were in the Holocaust as second rate
citizens yet moronic shit bags like you think this is ok .Yet if someone is constantly beaten apon turns around and hits back in your eyes they are in the wrong.

Have you watched this vid ?


This is FACT unlike the rubbish you trifle off , watch this vid then come back on here and try and present
your argument again after seeing and hearing what really happens there from the mouth of an Israeli Jew
with ties to the Israeli Army , real first hand experience unlike the propaganda ridden nonsense you spew
forth.

 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 09:48:06 PM
And you believe this ? Fuck you are stupid.. All your information comes from Zionist sources .

You are going on about Palestine and Terrorism - Israel are the culprits and please show me what threat Palestine
"Terrorists" have on Democracies ? Certainly not there own as they don't live in one Because Israel wont let them.

Nothing in that area is equal and The Palestinians are treated like the "Poor Jews" were in the Holocaust as second rate
citizens yet moronic shit bags like you think this is ok .

Have you watched this vid ?


This is FACT unlike the rubbish you trifle off , watch this vid then come back on here and try and present
your argument again after seeing and hearing what really happens there from the mouth of an Israeli Jew
with ties to the Israeli Army , real first hand experience unlike the propaganda ridden nonsense you spew
forth.

 
And your source comes from "Muslims and the World" on Youtube.

Not going to bother to watch the video as I don`t believe giving another view to Muslims and their Radical ideology is beneficial to anyone.

Go ahead and side with the Radical Islamists.  You have a lot in common with them, specifically your overwhelming ignorance.

When are you going on Jihad with them you terrorist sympathizer?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Ronnie Rep on August 02, 2014, 09:52:31 PM
The issue is your naivety, when someone hates you and wants you and your children dead and will take any opportunity to do so, even sacrificing their own children by using them as a shield, you can't reason with such people.  Do you try and kill them even though they hide amongst innocent civilians, including children, or do you just let them succeed with their plans and kill your children.  I know what I would do ten times out of ten.  In such a scenario someones kids are going to be killed, the question is, do you let it be your children or theirs?

Here is the difference.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8yBmwXW4XEM/S9oEeGF8Z5I/AAAAAAAAGPg/G1lrV8stRGA/s400/A+AAHamas_Israel_Gaza_hiding_behind_babies.jpg)
Perfect.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
And your source comes from "Muslims and the World" on Youtube.

Not going to bother to watch the video as I don`t believe giving another view to Muslims and their Radical ideology is beneficial to anyone.

Go ahead and side with the Radical Islamists.  You have a lot in common with them, specifically your overwhelming ignorance.

When are you going on Jihad with them you terrorist sympathizer?
And this is where you are wrong, most people of Palestine are not Muslim extremists - Just like
a large percentage of Israelis despise what there Zionist Governments are doing to innocent Palestinions
so in your eyes those Israeli Jews are Jihadists also because they know and say it's wrong.

You twist it around and say I support Jihadists ? The Jihadists are on the same level as the Zionists that
are inflicting all this terror in this region, pure scum

Because the channel has muslim in the title you automatically wont listen or watch lol you try to be smart
but this is plain ignorant.
So the guy talking on that clip must be a muslim jihadist also using your POV right ?
Even though hes a staunch Israeli jew that has ties to the Israeli army and been on the receiving
end of attacks from irate palestines.

He spends time in Palestine and see's the truth and whats really going on yet that scares you right  ::)

Here's the write up of that clip , by not watching it you remain clueless to the truth and will keep being ignorant plus look stupid.


Quote
Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Lustral on August 02, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
every Jewish person I know, is educated, cultured, accomplished and wealthy.

Jewish people are a  major asset to humanity. yes, they take care of their own...what race, nationality etc doesnt ?

A bit off topic but discussing this issue with my dad the other day he reckons Jews are the most intelligent race/ethnicity. I obviously consider myself the smartest person ever but I feel it is more down to their valuing education and appreciating intelligence. Interesting conversation.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 10:07:02 PM
And this is where you are wrong, most people of Palestine are not Muslim extremists - Just like
a large percentage of Israelis despise what there Zionist Governments are doing to innocent Palestinions
so in your eyes those Israeli Jews are Jihadists also because they know and say it's wrong.

You twist it around and say I support Jihadists ? The Jihadists are on the same level as the Zionists that
are inflicting all this terror in this region, pure scum

Because the channel has muslim in the title you automatically wont listen or watch lol you try to be smart
but this is plain ignorant.
So the guy talking on that clip must be a muslim jihadist also using your POV right ?
Even though hes a staunch Israeli jew that has ties to the Israeli army and been on the receiving
end of attacks from irate palestines.

He spends time in Palestine and see's the truth and whats really going on yet that scares you right  ::)

Here's the write up of that clip , by not watching it you remain clueless to the truth and will keep being ignorant plus look stupid.


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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 10:12:43 PM
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Remains ill informed, clueless, ignorant and not overly smart.

I must say TA you do the above very well , the most Ironic thing here is you mouthing off about Terrorists but
you are supporting the real Terrorists here - it's not Palestinions or Jews that are the problem here it's
Zionists, HAMAS and blind fools such as you.

Here we go , don't cry now because hey you really are just scared to question and accept what really goes
on over there..

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Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Lustral on August 02, 2014, 10:14:02 PM
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Irish media in a nutshell. Once 72 hour ceasefire was broken they said "it was probably israel, but it doesn't matter"...  ::)  

When it emerged hamas were shooting from tunnels and captured one soldier killing two others the woman in question reverted to type regardless. Israel over reacts but Hamas provokes it deliberately to gain better pr for want of a better phrase. They boobie trap houses of palestinians then hide there. Scum.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 02, 2014, 10:17:01 PM
Irish media in a nutshell. Once 72 hour ceasefire was broken they said "it was probably israel, but it doesn't matter"...  ::)  

When it emerged hamas were shooting from tunnels and captured one soldier killing two others the woman in question reverted to type regardless. Israel over reacts but Hamas provokes it deliberately to gain better pr for want of a better phrase. They boobie trap houses of palestinians then hide there. Scum.
Sympathizing with Radical Islam is a very real and dangerous thing, especially in Europe.  Europe is becoming a hotbed for jihadi recruitment.  WillGrant is not even immune and is ready to sign up for the cause.

Its ridiculous how bad it has gotten.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: G_Thang on August 02, 2014, 10:18:04 PM


not much to say on israel other than, the arabs would have turned them into refugees if they didn't have access to the usa's military and 20B a year in freebies.  

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 10:19:16 PM
Oh yeah HAMAS rockets are pipes with fertilizer stuffed in them , are you smart enough
to stop and think that something doesn't add up here ?


 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 10:22:01 PM
Sympathizing with Radical Islam is a very real and dangerous thing, especially in Europe.  Europe is becoming a hotbed for jihadi recruitment.  WillGrant is not even immune and is ready to sign up for the cause.

Its ridiculous how bad it has gotten.
LOL I'm convinced now you are just trolling , you are not a stupid guy but your argument is so
weak - I guess you are just stubborn so will continue to argue instead .

Epic Trolling 101   :D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 10:28:24 PM
And this is where you are wrong, most people of Palestine are not Muslim extremists - Just like
a large percentage of Israelis despise what there Zionist Governments are doing to innocent Palestinions
so in your eyes those Israeli Jews are Jihadists also because they know and say it's wrong.

You twist it around and say I support Jihadists ? The Jihadists are on the same level as the Zionists that
are inflicting all this terror in this region, pure scum

Because the channel has muslim in the title you automatically wont listen or watch lol you try to be smart
but this is plain ignorant.
So the guy talking on that clip must be a muslim jihadist also using your POV right ?
Even though hes a staunch Israeli jew that has ties to the Israeli army and been on the receiving
end of attacks from irate palestines.

He spends time in Palestine and see's the truth and whats really going on yet that scares you right  ::)

Here's the write up of that clip , by not watching it you remain clueless to the truth and will keep being ignorant plus look stupid.


Another brainwashed moron.  You do realise the Palestinian people voted in HAMAS, meaning they have majority support.  You do realise over 90% of the Israelis have supported the current Offensive against Palestine.  Jihadists and zionists are not the same, Zionists aren't sending suicide bombers into Palestine, they aren't firing rockets unprovoked into Gaza, they don't have a charter calling for the eradication of every Palestinian man, woman and child, they don't use children for human shields, they don't raise their kids to become suicide bombers.  I don't know where you libtards get off making such overt false claims.  This is a battle against ignorance, naivety and gullibility as much as it is a battle against terrorism and immorality.  And then to top it all off you direct people to such overt propaganda videos expecting everybody to be as naive and gullible as you are.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 10:30:18 PM
Another brainwashed moron.  You do realise the Palestinian people voted in HAMAS, meaning they have majority support.  You do realise over 90% of the Israelis have supported the current Offensive against Palestine.  Jihadists and zionists are not the same, Zionists aren't sending suicide bombers into Palestine, they aren't firing rockets unprovoked into Gaza, they don't have a charter calling for the eradication of every Palestinian man, woman and child.  I don't know where you libtards get off making such overt false claims.  This is a battle against ignorance, naivety and gullibility as much as it is a battle against terrorism and immorality.  And then to top it all off you direct people to such overt propaganda videos expecting everybody to be as naive and gullible as you are.

You need to learn, your "facts" are floored.

From someone that lives there and see's what really goes on.
Quote
Miko Peled was born in Jersusalem into a famous and influential Israeli Zionist family. His father was a famous General in the Israeli Army, of which Miko also served his time. When Miko's niece was killed by Palestinian suicide bombers, you may have expected the family to put Palestinians at fault, but surprisingly they blamed the state of Israel, and their violent torturing and persecution for driving people to such sadness that they would take their own lives.

Through his father's deep knowledge of the Israeli war of terror, together with his own research, Miko Peled ruins the myths surrounding the Israel and Palestine situation, and delivers a truth so damning that many Jews and Israel supporters will not be able to bear it. He reveals facts such as the original expelled Jews are not the ones returning, and they are not their descendants either, covers the double standards regarding the right of return, which doesn't apply to Palestinians, and dispels the myth that there has been a conflict for ages by producing proof that it was peaceful up until 1947 when Israel launched their illegal attacks.

Miko is just one of the many modern day Jews against Zionism and the state of Israel, and with the information he delivers in this astounding talk, it is not difficult to see why more and more Jews are rejecting Zionism and calling for the dismantling of Israel. It is a true eye-opener for anyone who has for too long been blinded by the fake misinformation given by the mainstream media, and the truths come straight from the heartland where he has spent many years documenting the real story.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 10:34:17 PM
You need to learn, your "facts" are floored.

From someone that lives there and see's what really goes on.


It is obvious Miko Peled isn't an unbiased observer. He carries guilt over the death of his niece at the hands of terrorists and blames himself (A Jew).  Sadly, had he held responsible the terrorists who killed his niece and rallied against them, he would have no need to feel guilty, but by taking the stance he has , he has become part of the problem and now has his nieces blood on his hands and good reason to feel guilty over her senseless death. People who excuse terrorism are just as responsible for it.  Obviously his initial grief pushed him to become a desperate hatemonger.  He is pissed off because his traitorous ways have been pointed out by his own people and he has been arrested before for it. He was a terrible soldier and even worse citizen. Miko truly is a tragic figure.

In every population there will always be traitors. He is the son of a traitor and it shouldn't come as a surprise that he became one. He is the poster boy for self hating libtard's everywhere who feel so guilty they encourage their enemies to destroy them.  His suggestion to lift the blockade which will lead to many more Israeli casualties is proof of his desire to avenge those who he believes mistreated him (his own people whom he betrayed and continues to do so)

To take the word of an obvious traitor over that of an entire population from a civilised democratic society shows how skewed your worldview is.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 11:02:54 PM
Another brainwashed moron.  
You do realise the Palestinian people voted in HAMAS.Hamas were created around the late 80's , ask yourself why ?
Do you think being evicted from ones home, raped tortured and killed would not cause people to say enough is enough , get your facts straight before you even try to raise the issue of HAMAS
::)


  You do realise over 90% of the Israelis have supported the current Offensive against Palestine. Your INTEL or info comes from where ?, A lot of Modern JEWs in Israel want nothing to do with what there Goverment does, your facts are infactual



 Jihadists and zionists are not the same, Zionists aren't sending suicide bombers into Palestine, they aren't firing rockets unprovoked into Gaza, they don't have a charter calling for the eradication of every Palestinian man, woman and child, Again wrong, Zionists  want to eradicate Palestine and make it Israel , this is FACT!! and the major cause of the issues in this region, in that vid he presents this with proof as his father was a General in the Israeli army given the task to complete this.
They don't need to send suicide bombers into the area they send hundreds of tonne of air explosives - why the need for suicide bombing ? because they do not have the military might - Your sister gets raped and killed in front of you by Israeli troops and you are shocked, your mum gets killed again shock and sadness the same with your father who has innocently inquired why he must walk on the other side of the road , bang a bullet to the head again so sad.. then his uncle is killed and he doesn't feel anything any more so he straps on a bomb to give the oppressors what they have given him, but idiots like you say he is a Muslim fundamentalist kill em all
 ::)


they don't use children for human shields, they don't raise their kids to become suicide bombers.  I don't know where you libtards get off making such overt false claims

the only tard here is you, you have no facts , everything I say is and can be backed by truth , not twisted news reports that only a downer would believe.  

This is a battle against ignorance, naivety and gullibility you clearly are not seeing this is you


 as much as it is a battle against terrorism and immorality.  And then to top it all off you direct people to such overt propaganda videos expecting everybody to be as naive and gullible as you are.

Watch the video and learn the truth as if you don't then you will continue to be ignorant,naive and gullible as everything you say has no fact

On women and children, at 11.25 every week day children are let out of there schools , they cross the streets to attend other classes or have lunch.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ordered over 100 tonne of explosives to be dropped on the area where the schols are at exactly 11.25am.
1 tonne will wipe out a whole block yet they used 100.On fucking children.
There was no aggravation for this attack , none at all yet this drove home to a lot of Israelis just how evil there Zionist
led government are - the problem is if you make to much noise you disappear.

So EKUL explain this and  then dear utter people using children as human shields which Palestinians do not by the way.

Explain why Israel send rockets into gaza then put on TV that it's HAMAS rockets coming toward Israel when they don't fucking have rockets like this.

If you can not look at the two examples above and not stop and think hold on something doesn't add up here
then you are truly fucked .

You seem to have a major racist issue and come across as really hateful.. Why ?

There's taking the piss but you my friend have some major issues



Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 11:05:26 PM
It is obvious Miko Peled isn't an unbiased observer. He carries guilt over the death of his niece at the hands of terrorists and blames himself (A Jew).  Sadly, had he held responsible the terrorists who killed his niece and rallied against them, he would have no need to feel guilty, but by taking the stance he has , he has become part of the problem and now has his nieces blood on his hands and good reason to feel guilty over her senseless death. People who excuse terrorism are just as responsible for it.  Obviously his initial grief pushed him to become a desperate hatemonger.  He is pissed off because his traitorous ways have been pointed out by his own people and he has been arrested before for it. He was a terrible soldier and even worse citizen. Miko truly is a tragic figure.

In every population there will always be traitors. He is the son of a traitor and it shouldn't come as a surprise that he became one. He is the poster boy for self hating libtard's everywhere who feel so guilty they encourage their enemies to destroy them.  His suggestion to lift the blockade which will lead to many more Israeli casualties is proof of his desire to avenge those who he believes mistreated him (his own people whom he betrayed and continues to do so)

To take the word of an obvious traitor over that of an entire population from a civilised democratic society shows how skewed your worldview is.
Nope. Watch and learn , he saw what is really going on..
You try and spin things around to suit your argument when it's clear you are wrong.

Watch it and then type an answer - if you can't or wont then remain blind and constantly typing mistruths and things
that have no fact to support them.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 02, 2014, 11:08:07 PM
Nope. Watch and learn , he saw what is really going on..
You try and spin things around to suit your argument when it's clear you are wrong.

Watch it and then type an answer - if you can't or wont then remain blind and constantly typing mistruths and things
that have no fact to support them.
What the fuck are you talking about.  I have watched plenty of Miko Peled videos, I know all about his lies and deceit and his agenda based revisionist history.  Miko must be the most naive man on the planet, and anyone who believes his nonsense is equally naive.  Of course a man disowned by his own people for being a traitor is going to do whatever it takes to try and punish them.  Miko truly is a disgusting human being.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: WillGrant on August 02, 2014, 11:13:23 PM
What the fuck are you talking about.  I have watched plenty of Miko Peled videos, I know all about his lies and deceit and his agenda based revionist history.  Miko must be the most naive man on the planet, and anyone who believes his nonsense is equally naive.
You have proof of this ? he presents plenty in his vids  from government documents that show agendas
and atrocities that the Israeli Army are ordered to do.

Where does he get this from ? His late Father who was a General in this war machine and oversaw alot of this nasty shit.

Shell I wait for you to provide evidence or just strike you off as the hate fueled anti muslim ranting calling all
the innocent people (Jew and Palestine) that die Muslim fundamentalists and they deserve it as you currently do.

You do realize that because someone is a Muslim it does not make them a terrorist right ? That's like
saying all Catholics/Christians are pedos , pretty narrow minded and foolish don't you think ?

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 12:30:08 AM


You do realize that because someone is a Muslim it does not make them a terrorist right ?


That made me lol.  With the exception of a tiny minority, Muslims are either terrorists or terrorist sympathisers, either way they are part of the problem of Islamic terrorism.  They don't seem to say much about their radical brothers committing terrorist acts in the name of Allah.  What I do know if an act of religiously inspired terrorism is committed it is unlikely to be someone from the Amish community.

And nobody said fighting terrorists was easy, but Miko is too naive to realise what it takes to succeed at such an unwanted situation.  The man is pissed for being outed and disowned by his own people and is obviously looking for some type of twisted retribution.  Democracy is wasted on such people as Miko, as it is on yourself.  People such as this deserve to live under a fascist islamic caliphate.

And if someone had written a document stating their goal was to eradicate myself and my people, they wouldn't even have to act on it, just the threat alone would be enough, let alone constant terrorist attacks.  Under such circumstances I would do far worse than the Israelis, what you call atrocities, I see as moderate and conservative.  Come knock on my door, tell me how much you hate me and my family and threaten to kill them and see what atrocities I perform on you.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 04:13:06 AM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Lustral on August 03, 2014, 04:48:26 AM
Sympathizing with Radical Islam is a very real and dangerous thing, especially in Europe.  Europe is becoming a hotbed for jihadi recruitment.  WillGrant is not even immune and is ready to sign up for the cause.

Its ridiculous how bad it has gotten.

Hamas and Palestinians are different entities. Problem is if you want to attack Hamas they will sacrifice their own people willingly.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 03, 2014, 05:05:41 AM
IDF are not even trying to be clinical, if Hamas is imbedded under all these homes and UN buildings they are destroying why not send in the military on foot to take them out and minimize civilian causality. Truth is they don't give a fuck and they are committing war crimes while all the world can do is watch.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:07:10 AM
IDF are not even trying to be clinical, if Hamas is imbedded under all these homes and UN buildings they are destroying why not send in the military on foot to take them out and minimize civilian causality. Truth is they don't give a fuck and they are committing war crimes while all the world can do is watch.
They are doing just that you bearded moron.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:09:11 AM
Another for the low IQ Bearded Jihadi Moron aka Big Ro

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:10:03 AM
Whats this Bearded Moron?

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 03, 2014, 05:11:16 AM
and that has what to do with destroying entire neighborhoods with shells and missiles and killing and maiming hundreds of children?
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:11:50 AM
And the hits keep coming.

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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 03, 2014, 05:14:36 AM
hits? so they are finding legitimate 'tunnels of terror' great this is justifiable military activity.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:17:26 AM
Big Ro is just angry that any IDF woman would destroy him in two seconds.



Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:30:42 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:46:14 AM
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Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:47:58 AM
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Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:50:34 AM
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Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 05:59:51 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 06:02:05 AM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 06:08:44 AM
ANOTHER UN school is hit by Israeli air strikes - this time killing 10 refugees including women and children as they queued for food handouts

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714575/Israeli-soldier-23-feared-kidnapped-Hamas-declared-dead-Netanyahu-vows-make-Gaza-militants-pay-intolerable-price-attacks.html
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 06:17:38 AM
'The military will prepare for continuing action in according to our security needs. We promised to return the quiet to Israel and that is what we will do.
'We will continue to act until that goal is reached, however long it will take and with as much force needed. Hamas needs to understand that it will pay an intolerable price as far as it is concerned for continuing to fire.'
- Netanyahu
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: visualizeperfection on August 03, 2014, 06:20:46 AM
Good.


Fuck Hamas.

Fuck Muzzies.

Team Isreal no matter what.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 06:28:03 AM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:28:30 AM
IDF are not even trying to be clinical, if Hamas is imbedded under all these homes and UN buildings they are destroying why not send in the military on foot to take them out and minimize civilian causality. Truth is they don't give a fuck and they are committing war crimes while all the world can do is watch.
 That's right military genius, sacrifice more of your own people to spare your enemy.  Where the fuck do you libtards get this stuff? Seriously.  You are moronic, You want Israel to be some type of cosmic buddhist soldiers that love their enemy and are willing to die for them.   It is Palestine that continually commits war grimes and this is never mentioned by the libtards who openly support and encourage it.  Quite sickening stuff, Meanwhile Israel does all it can to warn and prevent civilian casualties.  And the way you blatantly lie and embellish things for your agenda is telling, if israel was being indiscriminate in it's attack and just launching rockets in willy nilly or blitz bombing (American style) they could flatten Palestine in a few days and kill nearly every man, woman and child.  If that was the case maybe then you could say they weren't being clinical.

ISRAEL FOR THE WIN.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 06:31:37 AM
Jewish Rabbis Have Now Infected 14 Babies With Herpes After Sucking Their Penis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERPES-ritual-oral-blood-sucking-circumcision-New-York-City.html
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:37:45 AM
Jewish Rabbis Have Now Infected 14 Babies With Herpes After Sucking Their Penis

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2304793/Two-babies-stricken-HERPES-ritual-oral-blood-sucking-circumcision-New-York-City.html
U.S. Army admits to widespread cultural pedophilia in Afghanistan

http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-army-admits-to-widespread-cultural-s-s-a-pedophilia-afghanistan (http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-army-admits-to-widespread-cultural-s-s-a-pedophilia-afghanistan)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Tapeworm on August 03, 2014, 06:43:01 AM
Thread degenerates into pointless turd slinging contest as tensions rise.  "Their retarted" proclaims participants.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 06:44:21 AM
U.S. Army admits to widespread cultural pedophilia in Afghanistan

http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-army-admits-to-widespread-cultural-s-s-a-pedophilia-afghanistan (http://www.examiner.com/article/u-s-army-admits-to-widespread-cultural-s-s-a-pedophilia-afghanistan)

Comparing old men in New York sucking off babies to a barbaric, 3rd world country?  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:52:07 AM


Great Man and Leader
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 06:52:16 AM
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:55:56 AM
Comparing old men in New York sucking off babies to a barbaric, 3rd world country?  ;D
Actually Pedophilia is rampant throughout the Islamic world as is the practice of female genital mutilation.  We all know who the real barbarians are, you aren't proving anything by cherry picking a story about extremely isolated incidents.  Muslims actually worship a pedophile, can't get much more disturbed than that. 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 07:02:26 AM
If this was actually the plan Hamas had formulated, and had been able to executed, imagine the shit storm this would have caused. I'm sure the "Pal's" had no idea any of this was going on  ::)

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Israeli security sources, citing information acquired in interrogations of captured brigands, described a scenario under which hundreds of heavily armed Hamas fighters would have spilled out into Israel in the dead of night and within 10 minutes been positioned to infiltrate essentially all Israeli communities surrounding the Gaza Strip. Waiting then in hiding until schools and kindergartens were occupied, the terrorists would then attempt to kill the children first, and then kill and kidnap as many Israelis as possible. The plot was set to take place during Jewish New Year, on September 24.

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Israeli military officials reported that the tunnels are stocked with tranquilizers, handcuffs, syringes, ropes and other materials used for subduing abductees, civilians and soldiers. The tunnels also had fantastic quantities of explosives and additional military materiel meant to be used in the up-coming mega attack. Much of these explosives had already been placed underneath Israeli kindergartens.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-tunnels-used-to-target-israels-kindergartens/?utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FgfhiduoxVz (http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/stories-from-the-battlefield-hamas-tunnels-used-to-target-israels-kindergartens/?utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FgfhiduoxVz)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 07:12:55 AM
Actually Pedophilia is rampant throughout the Islamic world as is the practice of female genital mutilation.  We all know who the real barbarians are, you aren't proving anything by cherry picking a story about extremely isolated incidents.  Muslims actually worship a pedophile, can't get much more disturbed than that. 

I think all religions are backwards, who would of thought sexually repressing men would have consequences?

Islam has issues you mention.
Catholic priests fondle little boys.
Jews suck off babies.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 07:19:35 AM
I think all religions are backwards,

We agree on something at least.

Although some religions are more backward than others, ISLAM being the worst of them.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 03, 2014, 07:23:12 AM
Why, has your MUM gone missing?

See, here you go again with your libtard nonsense, it is you who is immoral, who sponsors terrorism, who causes innocent children to be killed, abused, used as shields.  You openly support all this and think in some bizarro backwards arse universe that is the moral thing to do.  It is you who is EVIL, you are just unconscious to it and project it onto others.  Hope this helps.

Dude! That's like saying if bank robbers take a bunch of hostages it's okay for the cops to throw a grenade into the place.  Well that is exactly what the jews  are doing.  They are leveling everything, they even hit a poor guys chicken farm for fucks sake.  Yeah the Israelis say they are hiding in schools and such but that is what they are always saying and we have no proof otherwise.  were are the bodies of hamas?  All you can see are the bodies of little children.  the self defense argument goes out the window when you start slaughtering kids. Let the Israeli army go into the streets and take it block by block,  no indiscriminate bombings for fucks sake!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 07:32:52 AM
Dude! That's like saying if bank robbers take a bunch of hostages it's okay for the cops to throw a grenade into the place.  Well that is exactly what the jews  are doing.  They are leveling everything, they even hit a poor guys chicken farm for fucks sake.  Yeah the Israelis say they are hiding in schools and such but that is what they are always saying and we have no proof otherwise.  were are the bodies of hamas?  All you can see are the bodies of little children.  the self defense argument goes out the window when you start slaughtering kids. Let the Israeli army go into the streets and take it block by block,  no indiscriminate bombings for fucks sake!

Why? What reason is there to put Israeli soldiers in a house to house clearing operation, other than more IDF casualties?
Would that make you guys feel better?
And how exactly to do you identify a member of Hamas? They don't wear uniforms.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Rascal full on August 03, 2014, 07:45:28 AM
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 07:46:31 AM
Dude! That's like saying if bank robbers take a bunch of hostages it's okay for the cops to throw a grenade into the place.  Well that is exactly what the jews  are doing.  They are leveling everything, they even hit a poor guys chicken farm for fucks sake.  Yeah the Israelis say they are hiding in schools and such but that is what they are always saying and we have no proof otherwise.  were are the bodies of hamas?  All you can see are the bodies of little children.  the self defense argument goes out the window when you start slaughtering kids. Let the Israeli army go into the streets and take it block by block,  no indiscriminate bombings for fucks sake!
You are so naive.  Do you have any concept of war?  Do you know how many Japanese children America killed during WW2?  The Americans even locked up American japanese citizens, stole their possessions and put them in concentration camps.  None of that is happening in Israel, Palestinian Israeli citizens aren't being rounded up, their possessions taken and placed in concentration camps.  And HAMAS's tactics of jeopardising civilians and storing munitions in civilian areas such as hospitals and the like is well documented and accepted by the world community, there is tons of proof of this.  This is old news, and only the most naive of observers doubts this.  It isn't uncommon for Palestinians to voluntarily use themselves as shields.  Tose that refuse risk punishment from HAMAS.

And this absurd comparison to a bank robbery but I'll play along, under certain circumstances it would be OK to throw a grenade in the place if you thought it was the lesser of two evils.  If you believe the bank robbers intended to kill every last one of the hostages and by doing nothing they will all die but you can spare some civilian lives by sacrificing some civilians as collateral damage, then what would you prefer, all the civilians die or only some of them.

This is war, and civilians die, in historical terms, Israel has been far more prudent and succeeded in minimizing civilian casualties compared to other conflicts.  In terms of children being killed, hard questions need to be answered,like do you risk your own children's lives and see them killed or do you take out the enemy even though they use children as shields.  The difference in this conflict is one side (Israel) is trying to protect it's children and the others side (HAMAS) is sacrificing it's children.  It's all well and good to be upset over children being killed,but point the finger at those responsible (HAMAS), to do otherwise is to simply have blood on your hands, as your support encourages those who commit evil acts like the use of children as human shields.

And your naive assessment suggesting Israel go in their block by block is ridiculous, you do realise they aren't fighting a defenceless people and such an act will result in far greater Israeli casualties (something that libtards lust after).  Unlike HAMAS, Israel is trying to minimise Israeli casualties, something that doesn't occur to libtards when considering the disproportionate death rate.   This makes sense, as HAMAS doesn't value life, they are quoted as saying 'They love death more than the JEWS love life".  How any decent person can support such an obviously EVIL regime is beyond me.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 03, 2014, 07:46:41 AM
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 03, 2014, 08:05:10 AM
Why? What reason is there to put Israeli soldiers in a house to house clearing operation, other than more IDF casualties?
Would that make you guys feel better?
And how exactly to do you identify a member of Hamas? They don't wear uniforms.


If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 08:06:42 AM
If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back

Holy shit who would have thought it was so easy  ::)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 08:09:49 AM
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.

So let get this right, Israel needs to wait until they are attacked to take any action?

And how exactly can you tell the difference between a civilian and a Hamas member?

The "Pals" elected and allow Hamas to operate in their territory, they are not innocent, they are only to fucking stupid to realize they are pawns, propaganda tools.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 08:18:53 AM
If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back
Palestinians aren't innocent, they voluntarily voted in a terrorist group and openly support them, even volunteering to act as human shields under certain circumstances.  You have no idea the scope of the situation and what Israel is dealing with.

The naivety people show around this issue is astounding.  Libtards must be the must dangerous threat to humanity that ever existed.  Their inability to understand the enemy, to even recognise the enemy is truly amazing.  They are like some poor insect casually walking across a spiders web oblivious to the impending danger and waving at the spider saying "Howdy Friend"

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 03, 2014, 08:24:20 AM
Holy shit who would have thought it was so easy  ::)

No, it's easier from the air.  Why get your hands dirty.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 08:28:19 AM
Mosab Hassan Yousef (Son of Hamas Founder) reveals the truth about how Hamas Terror group aims to kill civilians and uses Palestinian Children as human shields.

Even when the son of a HAMAS founder tells you that HAMAS wants maximum civilian casualties the LIBTARDS still refuse to believe it.





Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 08:29:56 AM
No, it's easier from the air.  Why get your hands dirty.

So your real issue is that it's not "fair" because Hamas doesn't have jets to bomb Israel?

If people like you were running things during WWII, the US would either be speaking German or Japanese
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 03, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
So your real issue is that it's not "fair" because Hamas doesn't have jets to bomb Israel?

If people like you were running things during WWII, the US would either be speaking German or Japanese

How the fuck did you connect those dots??  Never mind, carry on.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 12:59:50 PM
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli HAMAS mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of their own civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.
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Amazing how libtards fail to see that HAMAS is responsible for the disproportionate deaths caused to civilians.  There support of a group that willingly sacrifices it's own people and deliberately fails to protect them is nothing short of disgusting.

I think the biggest reason libtards behave in this reprehensible manner is they are so self absorbed and insular and unable to see beyond themselves they assume everyone thinks the way they do.  They falsely believe that human nature is good and that everyone has the same values they do.  So they project this onto even terrorists, people who hate their values and definitely don't share them.  People who don't value life, don't value honesty and don't value morality, people who have no hesitation to sacrifice even there own child for religious and ideological fanaticism.

(https://scontent-a-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10485645_687649997978007_4015146037328369114_n.jpg?oh=2f8879da747bd4de31bc5e0ddabe244a&oe=544D517D)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Rascal full on August 03, 2014, 02:50:00 PM
So let get this right, Israel needs to wait until they are attacked to take any action?

And how exactly can you tell the difference between a civilian and a Hamas member?

The "Pals" elected and allow Hamas to operate in their territory, they are not innocent, they are only to fucking stupid to realize they are pawns, propaganda tools.



I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 03, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
In Syria over 170 000 deads, Muslims kill Muslims & nobody give a fuck  :P
Isis kills fuck knows how many other Arabs in Iraq ::)
Ancient city of Mosul is now totally empty of Christan Arabs, thanks to Isis  :P
Hamas should be building kindergartens or schools, not tunnels & rockets ..... :o
Why should Jews tolerate Hamas rockets  ::)
Now another Arabs shit in Libya .........

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 03:12:23 PM
In Syria over 170 000 deads, Muslims kill Muslims & nobody give a fuck  :P
Isis kills fuck knows how many other Arabs in Iraq ::)
Ancient city of Mosul is now totally empty of Christan Arabs, thanks to Isis  :P
Hamas should be building kindergartens or schools, not tunnels & rockets ..... :o
Why should Jews tolerate Hamas rockets  ::)
Now another Arabs shit in Libya .........



People do give a fuck, it was on the news for over a year. Hope that helps.

People 'care' more about Gaza because Israel is supported by the West. Hope that helps.

Your English is awful and use of  :) ;) :D ;D >:( is not required. Doubt that will help.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 03, 2014, 03:12:56 PM
E-Kul is a pedo.

His daughter starred in Dance Moms, this must be a spin off show.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Kazan on August 03, 2014, 03:15:50 PM
I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.


I can justify anything I want, I really don't give a shit about the pals or the jews, let them fucking get it over with, winner take all. This conflict has been going on for over 50 years, its big business for arms makers and foreign aid black hole for the UN.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Teutonic Knight on August 03, 2014, 03:17:07 PM
People do give a fuck, it was on the news for over a year. Hope that helps.

People 'care' more about Gaza because Israel is supported by the West. Hope that helps.

Your English is awful and use of  :) ;) :D ;D >:( is not required. Doubt that will help.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 03, 2014, 05:31:11 PM
I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.


Israel bombed another school today, accidentally of course.  Even the U.S. has condemned it today along with the UN.  But of course the getbigger contingent is much wiser and experienced in world affairs.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:53:17 PM
E-Kul is a pedo.

That's Shawn Rays Daughter, Asia.  You sick fuck.  That was posted in a thread about Shawn Ray and his family and their new TV reality show.  Asia is a TV personality and happens to be a great dancer.  Your post is very telling, I see a young girl living her passion, you see a sex object and a wife.  You should be ashamed, no wonder you have no issue supporting a pedophilic religion.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 06:55:59 PM

Israel bombed another school HAMAS ROCKET LAUNCH SITE today, accidentally of course.  Even the U.S. has condemned it today along with the UN.  But of course the getbigger contingent is much wiser and experienced in world affairs.
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 03, 2014, 06:56:41 PM
They are doing just that you bearded moron.

ROFL  ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 03, 2014, 07:04:08 PM
Good.


Fuck Hamas.

Fuck Muzzies.

Team Isreal no matter what.

X2

Hamas is bringing this on themselves and the people of Palestine.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 03, 2014, 07:04:44 PM
Thread degenerates into pointless turd slinging contest as tensions rise.  "Their retarted" proclaims participants.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAH!!!!!!!!!! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AbrahamG on August 03, 2014, 07:05:28 PM
Mosab Hassan Yousef (Son of Hamas Founder) reveals the truth about how Hamas Terror group aims to kill civilians and uses Palestinian Children as human shields.

Even when the son of a HAMAS founder tells you that HAMAS wants maximum civilian casualties the LIBTARDS still refuse to believe it.







He is a piece of shit who sold his soul to the Israeli's.  I never put any stock in any man who sells out his family.  In this case, his heroic father.  May he rest in peace.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 07:10:26 PM
Here is a glimpse into the mindset of a Palestinian.  This Palestinian woman seeks medical help for her son in Israel, where her and her son are treated very well. She then explains how she has no value for life and hopes one day her sons still grows up to sacrifice his life for the cause and kill Jews.

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=773517276004867 (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=773517276004867)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 07:11:41 PM
He is a piece of shit who sold his soul to the Israeli's.  I never put any stock in any man who sells out terrorists his family. . In this case, his heroic terrorist father.  May he burn in hell rest in peace.
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Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 03, 2014, 07:12:02 PM
I think the biggest reason libtards behave in this reprehensible manner is they are so self absorbed and insular and unable to see beyond themselves they assume everyone thinks the way they do.  They falsely believe that human nature is good and that everyone has the same values they do.  So they project this onto even terrorists, people who hate their values and definitely don't share them.  People who don't value life, don't value honesty and don't value morality, people who have no hesitation to sacrifice even there own child for religious and ideological fanaticism.

I like this side of E-Kul! Great post!! MODERN Liberalism is clearly an illness.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 03, 2014, 07:14:11 PM
In Syria over 170 000 deads, Muslims kill Muslims & nobody give a fuck  :P
Isis kills fuck knows how many other Arabs in Iraq ::)
Ancient city of Mosul is now totally empty of Christan Arabs, thanks to Isis  :P
Hamas should be building kindergartens or schools, not tunnels & rockets ..... :o
Why should Jews tolerate Hamas rockets  ::)
Now another Arabs shit in Libya .........



haha!!! Excellent point!!

Muslims kill each other = No one cares
Muslims rape and murder innocent people in Europe = No one cares
Israel defends itself against Muslim attackers = GLOBAL OUTRAGE!!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 07:23:43 PM
I like this side of E-Kul! Great post!! MODERN Liberalism is clearly an illness.
Thanks Roger, I think I have pretty clear insight into liberalism because I used to be a liberal.  Used to believe in some utopian ideals and peace on Earth and the inherent goodness of humanity.  I think if anyone is maturing or attempting to, Liberalism should be a phase that you go through (preferably when younger), only to come out the other side and see the world for what it really is.  I even changed my minds on guns, I understand the issue a lot more now (Thanks to getbig).
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AbrahamG on August 03, 2014, 08:35:49 PM
FIXED.

You are very clever.  How is that working out for you?  Being clever that is.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 03, 2014, 09:15:41 PM
You are very clever.  How is that working out for you?  Being clever that is.
Great.  Thanks for asking.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 04, 2014, 06:40:26 AM
That's Shawn Rays Daughter, Asia.  You sick fuck.  That was posted in a thread about Shawn Ray and his family and their new TV reality show.  Asia is a TV personality and happens to be a great dancer.  Your post is very telling, I see a young girl living her passion, you see a sex object and a wife.  You should be ashamed, no wonder you have no issue supporting a pedophilic religion.

You not only watch the shows on TV, you search out clips on the Internet in your spare time.

Little children, dancing provocatively and wearing revealing clothing.

Sick fuck.  
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: orion on August 04, 2014, 06:52:23 AM
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It was actually a UN school and there were UN witnesses, but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your rants.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 07:53:10 AM
You not only watch the shows on TV, you search out clips on the Internet in your spare time.

Little children, dancing provocatively and wearing revealing clothing.

Sick fuck.  
You see a child and you feel sexually provoked and consider a standard dancing leotard as revealing.  You sick fucks better stop posting because you are making public your sexual attraction towards children.  Normal people see children dancing and enjoying themselves, pedos feel sexually provoked and project adult concepts like 'sexually revealing' onto children who have nothing to reveal.  Shame on you for feeling sexually provoked by a young girl dancing, when I made that post, no such thoughts ever crossed my mind, I thought the kid had great talent, but trust some sick fucks on getbig to feel turned on by it.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 07:56:35 AM
It was actually a UN school and there were UN witnesses, but hey don't let the facts get in the way of your rants.
ANyway, Israel has won the war and are slowly retreating.  Let's all take the time to applaud Israel's handling of the situation and how it drastically minimized civilian casualties.  I admire deeply the lengths Israel went to to avoid killing civilians all the while HAMAS went to great lengths to endanger and kill their own civilians.

(http://www.mematic.com/_/gifs/applause/applause-gif-tumblr-47_original.gif)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 04, 2014, 08:07:54 AM
You see a child and you feel sexually provoked and consider a standard dancing leotard as revealing.  You sick fucks better stop posting because you are making public your sexual attraction towards children.  Normal people see children dancing and enjoying themselves, pedos feel sexually provoked and project adult concepts like 'sexually revealing' onto children who have nothing to reveal.  Shame on you for feeling sexually provoked by a young girl dancing, when I made that post, no such thoughts ever crossed my mind, I thought the kid had great talent, but trust some sick fucks on getbig to feel turned on by it.

Don't try justify your actions, searching this shit out, you're disgusting.

Okay Pedobear  ::)

Call me old fashioned but little girls doing provocative dancing and wearing revealing clothing is over the top for me.

Yeah that's a bit much for 8. I wish Shawn's family the best as well, but shows like these gotta be a pedo's dream

It's a shame they are pimping their daughter out. Two failures as parents trying to love vicariously through their child. My daughter wasn't allow to wear make-up until she was 16 never mind 8  :-\

This is creepy not to say pedophilic..............

Are all these people wrong too?

You make me sick.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 08:16:45 AM
Don't try justify your actions, searching this shit out, you're disgusting.

Are all these people wrong too?

You make me sick.
Yes, those people are wrong, not to mention possibly pedophiles who are unaware by making those posts they are projecting how they see children as sexual.   You are sick for seeing dancing girls as sexual objects, I can only hope you don't have prepubescent daughters.  Girls love to dance and wear outfits and costumes, the last thing they need is perverts like you seeing them as sex objects.  Narcissistic deity was so afraid he would want to fuck his own daughter he refused her to wear make-up.  Poor girl.

And I am glad I make you sick, the last person I want to like me is a pedobear such as yourself.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 04, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
Yes, those people are wrong, not to mention possibly pedophiles who are unaware by making those posts they are projecting how they see children as sexual.   You are sick for seeing dancing girls as sexual objects, I can only hope you don't have prepubescent daughters.  Girls love to dance and wear outfits and costumes, the last thing they need is perverts like you seeing them as sex objects.  Narcissistic deity was so afraid he would want to fuck his own daughter he refused her to wear make-up.  Poor girl.

And I am glad I make you sick, the last person I want to like me is a pedobear such as yourself.

You don't think that picture above is inappropriate?

E-Pedo
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: King Shizzo on August 04, 2014, 08:30:04 AM
You guys fail to comprehend what war is, in the modern world.

This isn't pitched battles, between archers, and swordsmen.

Modern wars are fought within city limits. It is guerilla warfare, and there will be collaterall damage.

Thats the way it is. Wars are ugly.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 08:37:58 AM
You don't think that picture above is inappropriate?

noc-Pedo

No I don't think the picture is inappropriate, girls since time immemorial have loved to dress up and perform. It appears you have sexualised the girl, and rather than the problem lie with the girls outfit, the problem lies in your sick mind that sees a girl in a costume and thinks about her in a sexual way.

And nice attempt to derail the thread, this will be my last response to you, as you obviously have a serious issue with sexualising children and projecting it onto others.  No offence, but debating with pedos isn't something I aspire to do.  Good luck overcoming your inappropriate desires.  If you aren't yet a Muslim,it might be time to convert, they accept men who sexualise children.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 04, 2014, 09:21:58 AM
No I don't think the picture is inappropriate, girls since time immemorial have loved to dress up and perform. It appears you have sexualised the girl, and rather than the problem lie with the girls outfit, the problem lies in your sick mind that sees a girl in a costume and thinks about her in a sexual way.

And nice attempt to derail the thread, this will be my last response to you, as you obviously have a serious issue with sexualising children and projecting it onto others.  No offence, but debating with pedos isn't something I aspire to do.  Good luck overcoming your inappropriate desires.  If you aren't yet a Muslim,it might be time to convert, they accept men who sexualise children.

She's 8 years old for fuck sake.

You're worse than a Muslim pedo - at least we'll see them coming with the suicide belt and big beard.

You hide amongst us.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: HonestBob on August 04, 2014, 09:28:27 AM
She's 8 years old for fuck sake.

You're worse than a Muslim pedo - at least we'll see them coming with the suicide belt and big beard.

You hide amongst us.

If someone dressed up my 8yr old daughter like that I would bitch slap them into a pulp.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The Scott on August 04, 2014, 09:32:33 AM
Ummm...Israel is great. The US is even greater.  Islam sucks.

Back on track, lads!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 09:35:50 AM
If someone dressed up my 8yr old daughter like that I would bitch slap them into a pulp.
Yeah, because God forbid your daughter enjoy herself and have fun.  ::) Another girl who is going to grow up with major issues because Daddy was afraid of being turned on by his daughter.  No wonder the American porn industry has an unlimited supply of woman prepared to perform.  Earth to dysfunctional Fathers, girls like to dress up, they like to wear make-up, they like to be girls.  They are not sex objects, if you see them as such you have issues.  See a psychiatrist, a child under no circumstances is a sexual object, not if she dresses up, not if she wears make up and not even when she is naked.  STOP SEXUALISING YOUR DAUGHTERS.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 09:36:56 AM
But back on track, ISRAEL WON THE WAR, WOOHOO !!!!!
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: noc on August 04, 2014, 09:48:02 AM
If someone dressed up my 8yr old daughter like that I would bitch slap them into a pulp.

E-Pedo goes out of his way to Youtube them  :-\
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: AmonRa on August 04, 2014, 09:50:02 AM
E-kul you are wrong because:

Zionists rule mainstream media and you don't have access to the truth.

You are a satanic little insect which wants to justify it's existence by pretending to be born as something more compared to the rest. You are nothing more than a spoiled materialistic little bitch.

Very disappointed to see that only a few people on this forum know the truth, but even that's something.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 04, 2014, 10:00:51 AM
Zionists rule mainstream media and you don't have access to the truth.

This is the part I don't understand, almost all the media is Jewish owned and operated (fact). Yet all the media is being extremely critical of Israel, even mainstream US channels.

The only station that isn't destroying Israel is Fox and it seems to be the only station that isn't under Jewish ownership/management.

WTF?

???
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 10:00:52 AM
E-kul you are wrong because:

Zionists rule mainstream media and you don't have access to the truth.

You are a satanic little insect which wants to justify it's existence by pretending to be born as something more compared to the rest. You are nothing more than a spoiled materialistic little bitch.

Very disappointed to see that only a few people on this forum know the truth, but even that's something.


Mainstream media.  What's that? There have been alternate information sources for quite a while now.  Ever heard of the Internet?  And stop it with your Islamic conspiracy theories, we have heard it all before.  The Zionists plan to rule the world and even though their race is a miniscule minority they plan to take everything over, blah, blah, blah.  My judgement is based on Islams self admitted use of terrorism to reach their goals.  They actually put it in writing how they desire the second holocaust and won't stop until they reach that goal.  You only need to witness the way the Palestinians think, act and behave to know who is in the wrong.  The irony of your post is the Jewish narrative is the minority one, the majority voices come from the over 1 billion Muslims who mostly support Palestine.  With over a billion people baying for the blood of a minority race like the Jews who comprise about 13-14 million people, it doesn't surprise me that you jumped on the anti-semitic band wagon.  1 billion against 13 million, not very good odds if you are trying to win a PR war.  Sadly you probably fail to realise this is why you believe as you do, you have been sucked in by a creed that values death, lying, cheating and terrorism above all else.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Natural Man on August 04, 2014, 10:02:37 AM
Jews=quality
muslims=quantity
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 10:11:50 AM
This is the part I don't understand, almost all the media is Jewish owned and operated (fact). Yet all the media is being extremely critical of Israel, even mainstream US channels.

The only station that isn't destroying Israel is Fox and it seems to be the only station that isn't under Jewish ownership/management.

WTF?

???
The truth is, more and more prominent Muslims have emigrated to Western Countries and have a much greater political as well as media influence.  The West is now juggling the difficult situation. They risk Muslims rioting in the street and creating social discord and unrest if the media is too critical of the terrorism that HAMAS commits.  Typical left wingers, trying to appease both sides only to be despised by both of them.  They know they can criticise the Jews until the cows come home, because they won't try and blow people up and riot in the streets.  You can't risk the same with the unstable Muslim population, who won't think twice about blowing up innocent civilians over a cartoon.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 10:15:44 AM
UN criticism 'a travesty'

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Roger Bacon on August 04, 2014, 10:35:38 AM
The truth is, more and more prominent Muslims have emigrated to Western Countries and have a much greater political as well as media influence.  The West is now juggling the difficult situation. They risk Muslims rioting in the street and creating social discord and unrest if the media is too critical of the terrorism that HAMAS commits.  Typical left wingers, trying to appease both sides only to be despised by both of them.  They know they can criticise the Jews until the cows come home, because they won't try and blow people up and riot in the streets.  You can't risk the same with the unstable Muslim population, who won't think twice about blowing up innocent civilians over a cartoon.

Scary and sad... Reminds me of the situation with the Muhammad cartoons where we blamed the artists instead of the violent savage Muslims.

I don't understand any of this....................  :-X :-\ :-[ :P ;D
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: D.O.A. on August 04, 2014, 10:40:33 AM
That's what you took out of the video?

Brilliant.
Russel is the same kind of idiot then you. That's why you understand him so well ::) ::). Its obvious, mister knowitall.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 04, 2014, 06:57:14 PM
lol @ China supporting Palestine.  Talk about fucking hypocrites.  China currently occupies Tibet and they would have the same situation on their hands if the Tibetans and their leader (Dalai Lama) were terrorists.  The Chinese have slowly been committing a genocide against the Tibetan people.  China must think the world is so ignorant they forgot about their little occupation.  It also goes to show you how ignorant HAMAS is to the Worlds state of affairs.

Hamas hails China's proposal on ceasefire in Gaza
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-08/04/c_133531303.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-08/04/c_133531303.htm)
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: tommywishbone on August 04, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
I think Hamas would do better it they changed their fucking name. Every time I hear about "Hamas" I think about a tasty Mediterranean side dish suitable for dipping, and I think... "Hummus, who gives a fuck about hummus?"
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: wolfrittner on August 05, 2014, 01:56:09 AM
I think Hamas would do better it they changed their fucking name. Every time I hear about "Hamas" I think about a tasty Mediterranean side dish suitable for dipping, and I think... "Hummus, who gives a fuck about hummus?"
Hahahaha! Hummus is good!  20 people 8 hummus today all of them died .
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 05, 2014, 02:29:49 AM
lol @ China supporting Palestine.  Talk about fucking hypocrites.  China currently occupies Tibet and they would have the same situation on their hands if the Tibetans and their leader (Dalai Lama) were terrorists.  The Chinese have slowly been committing a genocide against the Tibetan people.  China must think the world is so ignorant they forgot about their little occupation.  It also goes to show you how ignorant HAMAS is to the Worlds state of affairs.

Hamas hails China's proposal on ceasefire in Gaza
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-08/04/c_133531303.htm (http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2014-08/04/c_133531303.htm)

oh ho ho we see you are admitting now that Palestine is occupied.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 05, 2014, 03:09:48 AM
oh ho ho we see you are admitting now that Palestine is occupied.
Occupation is nether here nor there to me.  If Palestine has been unlawfully occupied then that is up to the world community to deal with it in a civilised manner.  My objection is Palestine's use of terrorism and a charter calling for genocide.  I live in Australia, you could say I am an invader occupying ABoriginal Land, but trust me, if the aborigines form a terror group and kill white people, our People would react just as does Israel, I dare say a lot worse.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: BigRo on August 05, 2014, 04:09:47 AM
Senator David Norris: 
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 05, 2014, 08:10:32 AM
Senator David Norris: 

You see beards and nothing else.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 05, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
Senator David Norris:  

Homo of Peace !

But seriously, the man is a deluded idiot, he raged about Israel's use of force and the Palestinian losses and then at the end called for the international community to use force against the Jews, which will obviously only dramatically increase the destruction of palestine and its people.  These nutters never think anything through, he essentially said the use of force solves nothing but anyway let's use force against those who use force.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Griffith on August 07, 2014, 02:04:56 PM
Israel is like how Apartheid South Africa could have been today.


Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 07, 2014, 07:06:09 PM
Good to see Israel standing up to Libtards everywhere.

Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Griffith on August 08, 2014, 03:02:24 AM
Looks like Israel are considering taking over the entire Gaza strip.

This is probably the only way to completely crush Hamas.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Radical Plato on August 08, 2014, 03:35:41 AM
Looks like Israel are considering taking over the entire Gaza strip.

This is probably the only way to completely crush Hamas.
It's a pity Hitler gave genocide a bad name, their are instances when it could be justified.  Who could blame the jews for wiping out Palestine and it's inhabitants?  :o
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: _bruce_ on August 08, 2014, 03:52:44 AM
The tumbling US will abandon Israel - they will have to go their own way.
I hope Is Ra El flattens the territories around them and deports the Pestinians into Jordan, which will gladly deport them back into the desert.
I agree with E Kul on some conspiracy theories having Islamic influence - I remember many pretty well made videos on youtube which had red flags in them and when you read the fine print it was a Muslim-Inside(R) video.
Nonetheless the west should never forget that it was politically corrects progressives and jewish supremacists who paved the way for western demise.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: The True Adonis on August 08, 2014, 04:05:29 AM
The tumbling US will abandon Israel - they will have to go their own way.
I hope Is Ra El flattens the territories around them and deports the Pestinians into Jordan, which will gladly deport them back into the desert.
I agree with E Kul on some conspiracy theories having Islamic influence - I remember many pretty well made videos on youtube which had red flags in them and when you read the fine print it was a Muslim-Inside(R) video.
Nonetheless the west should never forget that it was politically corrects progressives and jewish supremacists who paved the way for western demise.

::)

Moron conspiracy theorist.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: _bruce_ on August 08, 2014, 04:28:24 AM
::)

Moron conspiracy theorist.


But Sura 112 states this for at least 225 times Mr. Edgy.
Title: Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
Post by: Griffith on August 11, 2014, 12:44:08 AM
"But television doesn’t show this bigger picture; images can’t elucidate ideas. It shows mighty Israel crushing bedraggled Gaza. Western TV screens never show Hamas – not a gunman, or a rocket launched at Tel Aviv, not a fighter shelling a nearby kibbutz. In these past few weeks, it has seemed as if Israel’s F-16s and Merkava tanks and 155mm artillery have been fighting only wailing mothers, mangled children, run-down concrete slums. Not Hamasniks. Not the 3,000 rockets reaching out for Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Beersheba. Not mortar bombs crashing into kibbutz dining halls. Not rockets fired at Israel from Gaza hospitals and schools, designed to provoke Israeli counterfire that could then be screened as an atrocity."

"In the shambles of this war, a few basic facts about the contenders have been lost: Israel is a Western liberal democracy, where Arabs have the vote and, like Jews, are not detained in the middle of the night for what they think or say. While there is a violent, Right-wing fringe, Israelis remains basically tolerant, even in wartime, even under terrorist provocation. Their country is a scientific, technological and artistic powerhouse, in large measure because it is an open society. On the other side are a range of fanatical Muslim organisations that are totalitarian. Hamas holds Gaza’s population as a hostage in an iron grip and is intolerant of all “others” – Jews, homosexuals, socialists. How many Christians have remained in Gaza since the violent 2007 Hamas takeover?"

"The Palestinians have been treated badly, there is no doubt about that. Britain, America, fellow Arabs, Zionists – all are to blame. But so are they, having rejected two-state compromises offered in 1937, 1947, 2000 and 2008. They should have a state of their own, in the West Bank, East Jerusalem and Gaza. This is fair, this would constitute a modicum of justice. But this is not what Hamas wants. Like Isis in Iraq and Syria, like al Qaeda, the Shabab in Somalia and Boko Haram in Nigeria, it seeks to destroy Western neighbours. And the Nick Cleggs of this world, who call on Britain to suspend arms sales to Israel, are their accomplices. It’s as if they really don’t understand the world they live in, like those liberals in Britain and France who called for disarmament and pro-German treaty revision in the Thirties. But the message is clear. The barbarians truly are at the gates."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11024978/When-did-Britain-lose-faith-in-Israel.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/11024978/When-did-Britain-lose-faith-in-Israel.html)