Both questions are related. I started training in 1950 at 16 years old and testostorone was already available in the USA and UK. ALL the top names such as Reg Park, Bill Pearl and Reeves were aware of it. By the late 50's EVERYONE was taking testostorone or Dianaboll. My kidneys started to fail back in 1995 so I switched to natural shows.
Ask me specific names and I will tell you what I know about them. To type all the weirdos would take months.
I never competed in IFBB but one of my best friends was Paul Grant who revealed plenty of detail about the 75 Olympia including the attempted buggery of little Danny. Watch the footage, Danny is talking to Arnold about the show in South Africa but only in the audience. Why is that ? Because he wouldn't wear the schoolboy uniform at the party the night before!!!
Ask me specific questions about individuals and I will give my opinion. But ask yourself this, how come so many guys who do not look like they even work out have such high places within NABBA ot the IFBB? The Weiders? Oscar State? Ivan Dunbar? What is it that attracts them to bodybuilding when they don't have a physique themselves?It is because they have a FETISH for muscle and/or they are as GAY as a Freddy Mercurys chest hair.
But ask yourself this, how come so many guys who do not look like they even work out have such high places within NABBA ot the IFBB? The Weiders? Oscar State? Ivan Dunbar? What is it that attracts them to bodybuilding when they don't have a physique themselves?
Hey Jimmy...
What are 'hot salascious mountians of Ebony muscle' and what do short midget men love them so much?
I've asked this question here before. Most just look the other way, or deny it.
Then again, it all goes back to semi nude men, posing on stage, oiled up and "pumped up" for a mostly male audience.
Many here deny there's anyhting "gay" or "schmo-ish" about it. They're in total denial.
exactly.....competitions are totally boring..its the training aspect of bodybuilding that is fun in my opinion. so its just about schmoeconomics.
this whole thread = lol
Both questions are related. I started training in 1950 at 16 years old and testostorone was already available in the USA and UK. ALL the top names such as Reg Park, Bill Pearl and Reeves were aware of it. By the late 50's EVERYONE was taking testostorone or Dianaboll. My kidneys started to fail back in 1995 so I switched to natural shows.Strong controversial statement!!!
He probably got bored with a pillow biting troll like 'gordiano' ruining the thread. I was looking forwad to his answers as well - a real insight into the iron age!
My girlfriend loves to finger my ass when shes giving me a blow job. God i love it, it literally DOUBLES the pleasure when i cum :o. I have to admit i'm now intrigued by the thought of her using something bigger. She really wants to; she loves treating me like a nasty slut, ha ha ha. Has anyone tried it? Whats it like?hahahaha.
Ask me specific names and I will tell you what I know about them. To type all the weirdos would take months.
I've asked this question here before. Most just look the other way, or deny it.
Then again, it all goes back to semi nude men, posing on stage, oiled up and "pumped up" for a mostly male audience.
Many here deny there's anyhting "gay" or "schmo-ish" about it. They're in total denial.
And I love you........ when you make me laugh! ;D
hahahaha.
Now, stay on the fcuking topic puhleze.
Trolling and internet feuding, take that shyte to the Y Board.
Now, stay on the fcuking topic puhleze.
Which is Jimmy Thomson airing the dirty laundry of bodybuilding, and in details hopefully. 8)
Everything off-topic will be deleted.
-Hedge
Yes I have seen men with large overcoats with their hands permanently in their pockets during a show. They were obviously masturbating.um now YOU sound perverted :)
I don't remember seeing seeing any fights between competitors although they do happen and I remember someone being killed at a show once after a disputed result.
The funniest,saddest and most embarrassing thing all rolled into one was the time back around 1975 at an open regional show in North England when an untrained bodybuilder with no apparent muscular development "competed" and sported an erection the entire time. As we completed the posedown at the end of the show I swear he reached orgasm. Theses guys just love to be around the "musclemen" and to be actually competing was his ultimate fantacy. Has anyone else noticed untrained but over exited competitors at shows?
The only thing I know for a fact is that Arnold enjoyed posing for Weider and friends while they sat masturbating. Jimmy Saville the famous gay British TV star and former NABBA president claimed that he had slept with Arnold but I don't know for sure.
arnold posing for the weiders while they masterbated come on now, how the hell do you know that? and if you watch pumping iron you can clearly see that arnold was the best man on stage and that waller easily won his class
I know a lot of things too, but that is thier problems. The only thing I did not like is when Weider told everybody that I did a porno film, when it was not, as everybody knows I did 25 movies, in one of them I acted to make love to a very good looking girl, no penetration, just acting, and I was surprise that Weider was so made, so it is only after that I new about all those homosexual activity. But in my autobiographic book I will tell an history about Weider in France going out with a transvesty, I did not want to tell that before, because I loved too much bodybuilding, but after what weider did to me and still doing I don't even care anymore.
Serge
The Weiders were surrounded by various high profile homosexuals and would introduce them to up and coming bodybuilders who the homosexuals would then sponsor. This carried on up until at least the 1990's. One of them was a doctor who used to boast that he had put implants into Arnold's calves, pecs and biceps in the 70's and would tell the young bodybuilders that in return for gay activities they too could have implants like Arnolds. Of course the only place they received any implants was in their buttock region.
This story was raised recently on another board by former Mr Universe Joe Meeko who said the implants for sex thing had happened to him and Mike Quinn (not clear if either took him up on the offer) but the message was deleted.
As far as the Weiders being homosexual is concerned, all I can say is we used to refer to them as Joe Weirdo and Ben Doon but then I was a NABBA man for 30 years and there were no puffs in the NABBA.
I will not reveal his name but he is short and white and judging by his name could be related to a spaghetti manufacturer. He is in the start of the film then again half way through where he states something to Arnold. He is not a competitor in the Universe or Olympia that year.
The more I think about it the more I believe I should maybe write a book too. I could expose the world of bestiality, wife sharing, filmed group homosexual activities (especially at the post Mr Universe and Mr America parties) and other deviancies which went on within the organisation of the IFBB. You would not believe how many "macho heroes" would do such nancy activities. No wonder so many ex bodybuilders are now preachers, ministers or born again christians, they certainly have plenty to be ashamed about.
man i wish BGM would get in on this and spill a few beans...
he claims to have slept with some top level bbers...
You want someone to show you how to do it? You should go to a priest and ask for the holy water special. Get the homosexuality out of your mind!
its good gossip..what the f**k else am i supposed to talk about after training in the gym?
compare stacks...pfft ::)
Stop being such a pansy!
Stop being such a pansy!
alexxx, would you have taken it up the hershey highway for 1st place like your idol did?
he was on the matt "dying of aids" t stack.Lyle Azado? ???
There was a party in Pretoria where the competitors were invited to a couple of nights before the Universe and Olympia. Everyone know that the performance of the guys would result in the placings. Several guys didn't go including Lou, Robbie, Danny, Paul and Mike Katz. They are the ones who did not place as high as they should. The reason for Ken Waller grinning before being announced the winner of the heavy class (and overall over Robbie Robinson and Wilf Sylvester) is because he knew he had earned the title a couple of nights before. And he still had the sore arse to proove it ;)
Whats all this shite on my thread ? I was about to give you some real scoop but now I'll just go off to the pub for a game of dominos :(
I train at the 3 council run gyms in East Kilbride. Until recently I was the bodybuilding coach at Duncanrig sports centre. In the past I have been East Kilbride sports personality of the year alongside Ally McCoist. Where are you from?
Most recently Mike Quinn probably got the most return on his placings from performing for the officials in the AAU, NABBA and IFBB. I know that Oscar Heidenstam particularly liked his "bad boy" leather image. There is a famous picture of Mike posing with a couple of Rottweilers but I know for a fact that there are more pictures from that shoot where Mike (and the dogs) are naked. Old Oscar had copies of these pictures and there are many more in the hands of collectors. In the 60's Paul Wynter was Oscar's plaything much to the annoyance of Rick Wayne who could never understand why Paul kept beating him. Oscar called him his "little black Sambo" and would get him to polish his shoes naked.
Has anyone heard the claims that the Weiders publishing empire was subsidised in the early days by also producing pornographic images of children? I have never seem any evidence of this but it was a rife rumour going back to the 50's.
but paul was married with two children at the time
Lyle Azado? ???
Jimmy, thanks for this thread, some great stuff to read. It is not obvious to everyone but there is a gay side to bodybuilding but it is more than simply being GAY. These guys like Weider are into rituals, sort of that "Eyes Wide Shut" type parties. Even today most of these bodybuilders and female bodybuilders are just into sex. Lots of swinger parties and stuff. If you ever see a bodybuilder with a hot girlfriend that you want to have sex with just ask. There is a 90% chance they are swingers and the guy wouldn't mind. You have to understand that some of these guys are so jacked up with juice that they cannot get hard. They know to keep these girls that they allow them to screw other guys.
Nothing in this world is more homosexual than watching oiled up buff men on stage. This is pure HEDONISM. It gets Weiders rocks off watching this stuff. It is a power trip for him knowing that he owns these guys. Why do you think the IFBB is so tough on having people compete in other factions? It is a power trip. He wants to feel that he owns them.
If anyone doesn't think that guys like Gunter is not giving into to anal sex is an idot. How does anyone belive that he ever made top 5 olympia on his own. Did you notice that this year he got engaged to Kim and all of a sudden he is out of the top ten. His stock went down once he stopped his homo way.
There is a prison mentality that builds up with some of these bodybuilders. They are ready at the drop of a hat to pose for any guy anywhere and they are fine with you grabbing their muscles and touching them all over. They spend all their time with guys int he gym, guys backstage, these expos that are filled with gay men.
Look at Chris Cormier. This guy should have easily won a boar load of contests but he never did. He was a straight up dude who partied, screwed chicks and never gave into the homo-stuff.
Its a sick world that goes on behind these scenes. If you ever get the chance to go to a bodybuilding after party in a hotel room or a house you have to go. It is basically one giant swingers party with everyone having sex with everyone. Sure you can have sex with one of the hotest fitness girls but you better be ready to let some guy ride you like a bronco.
Jimmy, tell us about the drug use, not steroids but things like cocaine, heroine, weed etc... I bet Arnold did a lot more than simply smoke weed.
Yes Lyle Alzado was gay. He did not die of Aids, he had a brain tumor. But what is the big deal. There are gay men in all walks of life and even in very hyper-masculine professions. It is wrong is that they have to hide it in order to keep working. But the numbers are smaller than what Jimmy wants you to believe.
wonder why so many of you come in here and say "great thread!" just when you read a few full pages about homosexuality and get your jerk-off material... i guess if homosexuality is so common, that would reflect the people posting on this board too.
talking about gay acts probably turns you on as much as participating in them yourself.
Did Derek ask you to post this?
no..its just good gossip!
you're a lets comnpare suppliment stacks kinda dood after ya train aintcha? ;D
yeah good gossip, right ::) i bet you're the type of guy that would suck peoples dicks and let them cum in your mouth and then you would share the "gossip" with your male friends by kissing them
gay as a thread by jimmy thomson!
you posted more in this thread than anyone. asking for DETAILS about homosexual acts, wondering and worrying that "mr thompson, sir!" hasn't responded in a day or two! because you got a hard on allready and you'd hate for it to go to waste!
of everything you can ask a man that's been around for 50+ years in the business, all you care about is gay acts. what the f**k does that make you?
I just feel vindicated.
I have been saying this for a while. I love bbing, the eating the training, et cetera. But comp. bbing, is a joke. An excuse for gay men to see semi-nude men. Yet so many here don't realize it, or are in denial about it. They think bbing is a sport, which couldn't be further from the truth. Are teh Chippendale's athletes? Is stripping a sport?
and i bet you want to hear more and would be upset if i were away for a day or two and would start to post "hey are you gonna answer our questions?!?!?"
a good posted always knows when he's been beaten..
otherwise we could drag this one and ruin a perfectly good thread..
the end...
this isnt a perfectly good thread. this is 5 pages of closet homosexuals that want to take the opportunity of getting to hear "juicy details" about homosexuals, transexuals, groupsex, bodybuilders dressing up in schooluniforms etc etc and when the details aint getting here fast enough, they spend another couple of threads asking what's going on?!
well if i consider so n so bber in high regard for soo many yrs i certainly wanna know if he's EVER taken it up the pooper...for $ growth or juice..
if he's been cheating on his wife?
when you GOOGLE Jimmy Thomson bodybuilder/Jimmy Thomson NABBA etc....Ya gotta go back into the archives to the heiroglyphics.
nothing turns up - is this because he competed pre-internet days
and they did not keep records then
Only my first wife but I replaced her with a 38 year old when I was 58.
This post sums everything up perfectly. It's not about specific gay incidents but rather the fact that all the bodybuilding federations are controlled like a gay version of the Maisons. Rituals dedicated to the body beautiful and power over it's deciples by the power wielding few (many of whome are Jewish such as the Weiders and Joe Gold). So many born again types such as Bob Birdsong (biggest gay prostitute of all) who became a minister, Larry Scott who became a very devout Mormon after his time as Mr Olympia under the gay nutritionist Reo Blair, Denis Tinnerino becoming a minister, etc etc. All trying to cleanse themselves of the shame they feel after being part of the world of ritualistic institutionalised homosexuality which is the Weider world of the IFBB.
If you know a Christian (especially born again) bodybuilder (there may be some on this site) then you know a bodybuilder who has experienced the rituals. Look at Lee Haney and that big daft fellow Ronnie Coleman. Both very religious and I believe Ronnie even came on stage dressed as Moses at the last Olympia. He was probably wearing that same costume the night before to titilate the jewish bodyworship leaders.
hmmm true...some more born again "christians": sean ray, kenneth wheeler, melvin anthony etc ;D
I'm not sure what I've answered and what I've not because of all the weird posts clogging up my thread. I'll read through everything carefully and make sure everything is answered later. I know a lot more than I have currently posted but have been holding back due to some strange e-mails I have received to my personnal e-mail account which I thought only family and friends knew. Some people are getting uncomfortable it seems. Especially in California.
I'm not sure what I've answered and what I've not because of all the weird posts clogging up my thread. I'll read through everything carefully and make sure everything is answered later. I know a lot more than I have currently posted but have been holding back due to some strange e-mails I have received to my personnal e-mail account which I thought only family and friends knew. Some people are getting uncomfortable it seems. Especially in California.
1. You keep mentioning Weider and Joe Gold being Jewish, what's that got to do with anything?
2. Being religious, thanking God etc is common practice in pretty much any sport, does that mean all these people are homosexual?
Back in the 60's and 70's my stack was the typical stack of taking 20mg of Methandrostenolone (4 * 5mg tabs) per day plus a 400mg shot of Nandrolone every 10 days. For the last month before a contest the Nandrolone would stop and be relaced by 50m of Winstrol per day. This would last for 5 months on and then we would take 1 month off completely. Generally in the earlier days I would compete in the Mr Scotland in the October and the Mr Britain in May so things could be timed quite well.Good thread Jimmy, a few questions I have (not interested in what bber is butt slaming what judge - but it's very entertaining though) 1. When you were taking the dianabol at that doses what sides did you get? and how much muscle did you keep after coming off? 2. As you got older (45-present age) did you find it harder to train with intensity and recover? 3. Did your training make any dramatic changes over the years - meaning did your training evolve with the ever new training routines - like going from the high volume style (2-3hr day workouts with 8 or more sets each body part 2X a week) to something like MaxOT (heavy weight low reps short workouts each body part 1X a week)? thanx for the feed back.
Remember that Methandrostenolone was marketed as Dianabol as early as 1956. It was legal, fairly safe, gave dramatic initial results and indeed was looked upon similarly to Creatine today. On that basis why would any serious bodybuilder NOT take it. I have to laugh at people who say Reg Park and the others were natural . Why would they be ? It would be like a modern bodybuilder not taking Creatine in case it became illlegal and taboo in the distant future.
Competed 88 times- that's incredible!
Have you ever seen people masturbating in the audience?
relax bluto..dont try to stop the spread of the free word. regarding question number 2...what jimmy says is true alot of the born again christians do it cuz they feel guilt and are ashamed of what they have done..not everyone of course but most of the bodybuilders (and people in general) who shout the loudest that they are christian etc..are often the biggest hypocrites.
I'm not, I ask because the truth in his stories might be affected by his views:
"Hey, Big Al, I think the Weiders should be gassed for their behaviour, but de-loused prior.
The dirty Juden bassas."
"I was a bouncer for 32 years and the only rule I followed was that if the guy was a Catholic or Protestant. If Catholic I would proudly kick him to death."
"I just like kicking catholics to death because they tend to be ugly smelly folks. They are kind of like the Muslims of the west with their filthy odour."
::)
look, its always that way...different people can interpret things in 100s of different ways. thats nothing new. there is no 100% truth.
keep the info coming jimmy !
nobody dies from AIDS, the immune system gets compromised and fails. in his case it was cancer of the brain and the cancer won.nobody with HIV or AIDS gets brain cancer dude.
No it's not always that way. When someone is a bitter homohating nazi, that's gonna cloud his judgement and exaggerations or down right lies will follow. But by all means, keep the stories coming so "slaveboy" can get some "juicy details", hell maybe he even have some s&m stories to share!
No it's not always that way. When someone is a bitter homohating nazi, that's gonna cloud his judgement and exaggerations or down right lies will follow. But by all means, keep the stories coming so "slaveboy" can get some "juicy details", hell maybe he even have some s&m stories to share!
why you so pissed of dude? your acting like old and sour bitch.... ;D
jimmy your doing a great job
Why are you always going on about people hating homos and sticking up for homos...well its actually pretty obvious.
Listen where jimmy is from protestant vs catholic is just the way it is, the catholics would do the same to protestant and the other way round, my whole family is from glasgow so i know the deal, my uncle used to go on orange marches in northern ireland and hes got a tattoo of the pope on the sole of his foot so that every time he puts down his foot hes stamping on the pope, thats just the way it is and itll never change, and it work both ways.
why you so pissed of dude? your acting like old and sour bitch.... ;D
jimmy your doing a great job
Yes that's some sad shit.
I'm not. I'm just pointing out that surely that would affect his judgement and his views. He just doesn't come off as very believable now when we know he's a bitter old racist, nazi and homo hater.
But if you believe in faery tales, by all means continue.
yes i will, and who says i believe everything. go and harrass pumpster and ill come and help you.
For that I need no help, I was owning him long before you was a member here ;D
lol you dont know how long i been on here bluto...;) maybe i was here when ron started his "bulletin board" back in 98.
I hope not, that would be sad :-\ That's nearly 10 years.
its been a journey alrite..was away a couple of years tho..but i met alot of schmoes to perform on via webcam
anyway this is jimmys thread: so i will shut the f**k up now.
This post sums everything up perfectly. It's not about specific gay incidents but rather the fact that all the bodybuilding federations are controlled like a gay version of the Maisons. Rituals dedicated to the body beautiful and power over it's deciples by the power wielding few (many of whome are Jewish such as the Weiders and Joe Gold). So many born again types such as Bob Birdsong (biggest gay prostitute of all) who became a minister, Larry Scott who became a very devout Mormon after his time as Mr Olympia under the gay nutritionist Reo Blair, Denis Tinnerino becoming a minister, etc etc. All trying to cleanse themselves of the shame they feel after being part of the world of ritualistic institutionalised homosexuality which is the Weider world of the IFBB.Haha priceless post! I hope this isn't deleted. :P
If you know a Christian (especially born again) bodybuilder (there may be some on this site) then you know a bodybuilder who has experienced the rituals. Look at Lee Haney and that big daft fellow Ronnie Coleman. Both very religious and I believe Ronnie even came on stage dressed as Moses at the last Olympia. He was probably wearing that same costume the night before to titilate the jewish bodyworship leaders.
Haha priceless post! I hope this isn't deleted. :P
Mr.Guy aka "jimmy thompson" why make this thread so gay about masturbating, homosexuals and pedophiles over 40yrs old? Wtf is this guy
I think hes just telling the truth, everyone knows this stuff happens, why do some find it so hard to accept, like he says why do men who have never worked out in there life get involved with bodybuilding, seems pretty obvious.
Just work out, get big, lift weights, dont even think about trying to become pro because 90% of the time youve got to suck a dick to make it, and tbh why would you want to get on stage oiled up in a thong for all those freaks in trenchcoats anyway.
Just lift weights and eat healthy, fvck competition, too wierd.
Which men are you talking about?
Half the fucking ifbb judges and suits bluto you fucking gay pride poster boy, get out of my face before i get dave palumbo to hire a boxing ring for me to kick you fruity head in.be careful yorkshire, you know that bluto claims to be a "black belt" don't you? ::)
be careful yorkshire, you know that bluto claims to be a "black belt" don't you? ::)
Lol what a queer, any time anyone says anything about gays he goes mental,monster sticking up for his crew.hahahahahaha, how can people walking around that peter puffer not be laughing their asses off?
Heres a picture of bluto.
hahahahahaha, how can people walking around that peter puffer not be laughing their asses off?
Half the fucking ifbb judges and suits bluto you fucking gay pride poster boy, get out of my face before i get dave palumbo to hire a boxing ring for me to kick you fruity head in.
be careful yorkshire, you know that bluto claims to be a "black belt" don't you? ::)
I competed in and WON a couple international bb shows, national shows, and lived in venice, ca for the last ten years....I think its interesting when people claim they knew what reeves, or ken waller, or arnold did, because to be honest when it comes to steroid cycles, or past girlfriends, etc, my wife barely knows these things that I did....so how does this guy know anything intimate about the names hes dropping? Ive spent time with weider, and with many pros....are there swingers, gays, etc.....?....yes, maybe a little more than other sports, but not the huge conspiracy this guy is claiming....hes promoting RUMORS.......
usually told by someone bitter and on the OUTSIDE.......
Great example is Ed Connors of Golds fame.....every perverted Ed story is told by some one who barely knows ed, or a story they heard about Ed, but youll never find anyone who will first person say that YES>>>ED CAME ON TO ME!!! or worse....bottom line, Eds a great guy, a little eccentric maybe, but never someone to do anything improper....but youll have Bodybuilders who are bitter and jealous whom ed never helped (or he doesnt even know) who will say spiteful shit about him!
The perverts and weirdos are out there, like they are everywhere, but it wont become an issue unless YOU want it to! (whether you want to be Mr Olympia or Mr South East Iowa)
this guy smacks of someone whio is bitter, who had a lifetime of existing in the periphery of the sport, probably repeating the rumors HE heard from someone else 30 years ago...
SAD
there's no black belt in what i train
What m.a. do you do?
You do your Mamma? Judging by that pic of you in the shorts you you would rather do your Dadda.
Jimmy...
Would you say, based on your expierence and knowledge, that the girls who want to place HIGH or 'make it' in this industry and WIN an Arnold Classic or Olympia crown...would you say THEY have to pay dues like the men have to with the homos?
Do they have it easier or harder? Is the pressure on them less than the guys to take part in the hedonistic subculture?
I'm not. I'm just pointing out that surely that would affect his judgement and his views. He just doesn't come off as very believable now when we know he's a bitter old racist, nazi and homo hater.
But if you believe in faery tales, by all means continue.
Lol what a queer, any time anyone says anything about gays he goes mental,monster sticking up for his crew.
Heres a picture of bluto.
As opposed to you, the homo lover?
Why are you part of this thread, if you don't care for it?
what are you doing on this site? you claim youre into the training part of it, yet you dont post a lot on the training board, or the nutriton board, rather you hang out on the bodybuilding gossip board where people spend a lot of time doing what you consider to be "gay", why is that?
it makes no sense, unless of course you're homosexual yourself.
i cant think of any other explanation. if you can let me hear it.
I'm here just like most people. For the entertainment. This place is addictive.
It's fun seeing people meltdown left and right, over practically nothing.
Hell, look at you, why are you taking this shit so personally? Why do you have such a problem with this thread? The truth eventually comes out..........so why not enjoy this thread instead of hating on it?
so of all sites on the net, you spend 3 years on the bodybuilding gossip where pretty much every other thread is about, what you despise, bodybuilders, oiled up, thongs etc etc and you claim "it's entertainment" ?
yeah right. ::)
God, you can't be this stupid.
This is the MOST honest bbing site on the net. I was once a bbing fan. Now I just bbuild.
There are tons of boards here. G & O is the most fun, IMO. This is where most of the action happens.
You believe what you want. I'm here to laugh.......
Chick, Shawn, Milos and any other pro reading any of this, care to comment on any of this. I would like to hear your opinions on these rumors, is any of this true?Lee? Did you hear this guy? I know you're reading...do you care to comment instead of hoping we "think" you may have just simply "missed" this thread because maybe you are busy running errands or dont have time to check the boards. Thats what other pros think...that we notice they shy away from certain topics simply because...they just didnt see it. Hahahahahahahaha!
Im going to assume that since you're all 'employed' by or somehow affiliated with these people that you'll be smart and not say a word. Says a lot about 'saying whats on your mind', 'being outspoken', 'telling it like it is'. IF any of this is true, it would be smart to keep your mouth shut, just dont talk about how you always 'tell it like it is'.
you were once a bb fan, now you're not because you all of a sudden came to the conclusion that only fags watch bb (and only fags participate in it) not to mention the judges are fags too (and the audience are full of closet fags in raincoats masturbating)
? still with this hot info, you cant help to stick around?
you're on weird dude.
Lee? Did you hear this guy? I know you're reading...do you care to comment instead of hoping we "think" you may have just simply "missed" this thread because maybe you are busy running errands or dont have time to check the boards.
See how YOU turn everything into gayness?
I'm not saying everyone involved with/in bbing is gay. I'm saying that there's lots of gay overtones to it. Some are very obvious. I'm saying that being a pro bber does not make you an athlete, and bbing itself is not a sport.
We can continue this later. I gotta go train legs!
So you are saying that if you want to become Mr Olympia or Mr South East Iowa there matters WILL become an issue? Thats what I have been saying.
Ok Mr International Champion why don't you tell us your name.
I even know a recent USA champ who claimed that he placed second in his class last year BECAUSE HE WAS GAY
This is why this poor gay dude got shafted. And not shafted where he is used to being shafted.
This is exactly what I am saying but too many people are not understanding the detail. The leaders of the IFBB are driven by the need for power over the straight Christian bodybuilders. Bob Paris, Chris Dickerson etc never experienced this because they are out. They IFBB get their kicks from making the big muscle men do things they don't want to. Just like the rapists. It's not about sex.
This is why this poor gay dude got shafted. And not shafted where he is used to being shafted.
nobody with HIV or AIDS gets brain cancer dude.::)
I checked a list of the people on the IFBB board and judges, and there's no way in hell 95% on that list are gay... a lot of them have solid backgrounds not only in bodybuilding, but also strongman, power lifting etc, some of them competed themselves, others are personal trainers etc.Bluto would know, he's gay and he can tell when someone else is gay.
Jimmy and yorkshire terrier has been smoking the same shit.
I will ask everyone one question. Of anyone questioning the claims, have any of you ever competed? I competed at the regional and state level for about 4 years. Of all the different judges I ever met, they almost universally fit in categories:
1: Effim males; one judge invited me to New Orleans to teach me "posing." :-X
2. Effim male's "spouses." Once again, :-X.
3. Former or current competitors (BB/figure) who genuinely seem to love the art.
4. The occasional relatively acting normal guy who just seems to enjoy bodybuilding.
Bluto would know, he's gay and he can tell when someone else is gay.
I checked a list of the people on the IFBB board and judges, and there's no way in hell 95% on that list are gay... a lot of them have solid backgrounds not only in bodybuilding, but also strongman, power lifting etc, some of them competed themselves, others are personal trainers etc.
Then they're in category 3 or 4. All I can tell you is that at any given show that I ever competed in, there were at least 2-3 extremely effiminate men on the panel.
Maybe it's just you that bring that behaviour out of them ;)
the dude poses/strips for gay men, straight dudes dont do that. hope this helps
I'm pretty sure straight men do that. Why wouldn't they?becasue its queer, plain and simple.
there's no black belt in what i train
YOU ARE gay my child but don't worry its not as bad as it seems! Its easy to get cock easier than pussy! Living with your pappa and Brothers makes it all the more easy for you!!
ta ta
You do your Mamma? Judging by that pic of you in the shorts you you would rather do your Dadda.
As we all know the way women's bodybuilding has gone over the past 20 years has been for the women to put on more and more muscle by taking more and more male hormone drugs to the extent that the drugs they fill themselves with have made them hermaphraditic. Remember they have become more masculine and massive because the judges have rewarded this over the years. Remember that the people in charge of the federations are gay men and gay men love transsexuals and drag queens. Have you ever seen the Birdcage? These freaky female bodybuilders pander to their desires as much as perverting the straight christian men do. I don't think they have to perform sexual favours though, the straight christian men are the ones who do that.
This is exactly what I am saying but too many people are not understanding the detail. The leaders of the IFBB are driven by the need for power over the straight Christian bodybuilders. Bob Paris, Chris Dickerson etc never experienced this because they are out. They IFBB get their kicks from making the big muscle men do things they don't want to. Just like the rapists. It's not about sex.
This is why this poor gay dude got shafted. And not shafted where he is used to being shafted.
becasue its queer, plain and simple.
YOU ARE gay my child but don't worry its not as bad as it seems! Its easy to get cock easier than pussy! Living with your pappa and Brothers makes it all the more easy for you!!
ta ta
The idiot doesnt understand people arent saying this stuff because they are trying to insult them for being gay, were saying it because its wrong that if you want to do well in competition and get good scores from certain judges you have to do gay things for them, its called sexual harrassment and bluto supports it.
The gay bastard. :)
Bodybuilding is not as clean as most wish it was, but it's not as dirty as some claim it is.
Gordiano and Bluto, get your own thread you pair of cvnts!! you're messing this one up!! >:(
I checked a list of the people on the IFBB board and judges, and there's no way in hell 95% on that list are gay... a lot of them have solid backgrounds not only in bodybuilding, but also strongman, power lifting etc, some of them competed themselves, others are personal trainers etc.
I don't know why so many people feel so threatened by this thread. Guess what people? You're in the section of the forums called "GOSSIP & OPINIONS". People talk; it's human nature. If you don't like what you're reading, then go elsewhere. I can promise you that marching around on a one-man crusade to stop people from "degrading the precious sport of bodybuilding" isn't going to stop the rumors.
I'm not arguing that any of this is truth. A lot of this thread probably is BS. I'm just as bothered by the comments about Arnold as anybody, the guy is like a hero to me (maybe not to the degree that he is to Alexxx, but...). That said, are some of you so naive to believe that none of this kind of stuff goes on, ever? Hell, this stuff probably goes on in every major sport to a small degree. Bodybuilding is probably more greatly affected because of the nature of the event, but I digress...
Here's the real, and better, question. Does it even matter? Are the majority of people here ever going to compete anyway? Is it really ever going to affect you?
For the majority of us here, probably not...
You know, this thread disturbs me. Basically he is saying, dorian, ronnie, jay, markus ruhl et al are taking it in the ass behind the scenes, its quite common everyone does it etc., the weiders, who created this entire industry, are just homo perverts who managed to get rich abusing male christians sexually, it sounds strongly like bs from a wrinkled old man with nothing left to live for. You've lost your mind old man, I sincerely hope you have money for a lawyer when you get sued, which I hope happens. You cannot state as fact all this bullshit without someone taking notice and getting pissed off.
I salute anyone with the gumption to tell the truth about what he knows re bodybuilders. What is the test of truth of what Jimmy is telling us? If he had first hand information then that would suffice. I dare say most of his stuff is heresay but that doesn't mean what he said is all false.
If we want to see an insider organization then we need look no further than the old AAU Mr America committee. They used to have an athletic requirement plus an interview so the opinion of the judges was very important because personality was being assessed. Some guys missed out because they were black.That persisted until about 1970 when Chris Dickerson won.
I have written some of my stories about a few bodybuilders that I got to know. I am very careful to post only statements that I can prove or that I personally know happened. We do have to be careful when we post that we are not slandering anyone.
Some of the stuff Jimmy has posted is funny, indeed. I am not so sure those mentioned in his posts would agree!
I salute anyone with the gumption to tell the truth about what he knows re bodybuilders. What is the test of truth of what Jimmy is telling us? If he had first hand information then that would suffice. I dare say most of his stuff is heresay but that doesn't mean what he said is all false.you bsound frustrated because someone has the balls to put it out there for everyone to know how their beloved sport really laid it's gropunds...If it were for me i'd read jimmy thompson and gh15 all day long...i could this way get an ideea about how thing really are.
If we want to see an insider organization then we need look no further than the old AAU Mr America committee. They used to have an athletic requirement plus an interview so the opinion of the judges was very important because personality was being assessed. Some guys missed out because they were black.That persisted until about 1970 when Chris Dickerson won.
I have written some of my stories about a few bodybuilders that I got to know. I am very careful to post only statements that I can prove or that I personally know happened. We do have to be careful when we post that we are not slandering anyone.
Some of the stuff Jimmy has posted is funny, indeed. I am not so sure those mentioned in his posts would agree!
you bsound frustrated because someone has the balls to put it out there for everyone to know how their beloved sport really laid it's gropunds...If it were for me i'd read jimmy thompson and gh15 all day long...i could this way get an ideea about how thing really are.
Gentlemen I have not commented much over the last few days because a lot of posts were made which were off topic and became gay bashing. I have known plenty of gay collegues and have nothing against them.
I started this thread as a response to some comments made in Serge Nubret's thread.
Serge is there any truth in The Weiders being homosexual\bisexual rumor?
I heard that too. I am speaking about that in my second booK.
Serge
I then commented :
The Weiders were surrounded by various high profile homosexuals and would introduce them to up and coming bodybuilders who the homosexuals would then sponsor. This carried on up until at least the 1990's. One of them was a doctor who used to boast that he had put implants into Arnold's calves, pecs and biceps in the 70's and would tell the young bodybuilders that in return for gay activities they too could have implants like Arnolds. Of course the only place they received any implants was in their buttock region.
This story was raised recently on another board by former Mr Universe Joe Meeko who said the implants for sex thing had happened to him and Mike Quinn (not clear if either took him up on the offer) but the message was deleted.
As far as the Weiders being homosexual is concerned, all I can say is we used to refer to them as Joe Weirdo and Ben Doon but then I was a NABBA man for 30 years and there were no puffs in the NABBA.[/i]
Serge came back with
I know a lot of things too, but that is thier problems. The only thing I did not like is when Weider told everybody that I did a porno film, when it was not, as everybody knows I did 25 movies, in one of them I acted to make love to a very good looking girl, no penetration, just acting, and I was surprise that Weider was so made, so it is only after that I new about all those homosexual activity. But in my autobiographic book I will tell an history about Weider in France going out with a transvesty, I did not want to tell that before, because I loved too much bodybuilding, but after what weider did to me and still doing I don't even care anymore.
Serge
And I decided to start this thread.
I have since received several messages including one from an Ironage member who sent me the following post from the 70's competitor Richard Baldwin. See what Richard said on Ironage :
I was in California training at Gold's in the late 70s and found out a lot more than I've seen on any of the threads on this site. I know things about some of the top bodybuilders that I won't share, including more than one Mr. Olympia, even though an NPC official has encouraged me to write a book.
Rumors abound out there in L.A., some true, some not true. I not only saw things and heard conversations that people didn't know I heard that were shocking, I was friends with Bill Reynolds (the first editor of Flex) who told me more than I wanted to know. I got so disgusted, in fact, that I left L.A. after 3 1/2 months. I just didn't feel comfortable in that scene.
OK I've given the matter some thought and later I will be posting the answers to some of the questions posed within this thread. I will also post some personal experiences including an interesting conversation I had with Oscar Heidenstam.
You'll find that most threads here deteriorate into some form of chest-beating, testosterone laced bashing and thrown completely off topic. It helps to ignore it and continue on.You say that like it's a bad thing. 8)
I competed in and WON a couple international bb shows, national shows, and lived in venice, ca for the last ten years....I think its interesting when people claim they knew what reeves, or ken waller, or arnold did, because to be honest when it comes to steroid cycles, or past girlfriends, etc, my wife barely knows these things that I did....so how does this guy know anything intimate about the names hes dropping? Ive spent time with weider, and with many pros....are there swingers, gays, etc.....?....yes, maybe a little more than other sports, but not the huge conspiracy this guy is claiming....hes promoting RUMORS.......
usually told by someone bitter and on the OUTSIDE.......
Great example is Ed Connors of Golds fame.....every perverted Ed story is told by some one who barely knows ed, or a story they heard about Ed, but youll never find anyone who will first person say that YES>>>ED CAME ON TO ME!!! or worse....bottom line, Eds a great guy, a little eccentric maybe, but never someone to do anything improper....but youll have Bodybuilders who are bitter and jealous whom ed never helped (or he doesnt even know) who will say spiteful shit about him!
The perverts and weirdos are out there, like they are everywhere, but it wont become an issue unless YOU want it to! (whether you want to be Mr Olympia or Mr South East Iowa)
this guy smacks of someone whio is bitter, who had a lifetime of existing in the periphery of the sport, probably repeating the rumors HE heard from someone else 30 years ago...
SAD
Funny how "Jimmy" seems to think he has no power of the big strong evil homosexual. Have you guys ever heard of standing up for yourselves. You mean to tell me all those big strong macho straight guys were all controlled by a gay guy?
Why is it "depraved homosexuals" but not depraved straight guys who will do anything for money or power?
Why is it that you guys see something so wrong in sexual favors in the bodybuilding world but when it comes to Hollywood or Las Vegas the centers of heterosexual depravity, where jobs and sex are intertwined, you all have nothing to say.
This thread may have some true "rumours" to it, especially about Arnold hustling, But trying to paint a conspiracy of Jewish homosexuals trying to get Christians to submit to homosexual sex sounds like a paranoid Nazi rant. Sounds like "Jimmy" lets fear and paranoia control his thoughts.
"Jimmy", I don't mind hearing your rumours, but why not put the blame for them squarely on both parties and stop trying to demonize gay men. You probably have some interesting things to say about rich powerful women as well? Are they all evil and out to destroy straight men?
Theres nothing wrong with being gay but building an entire federation around it and lying to people is whats wrong, the young guy who goes out to california to pursue his dream and finds out the only way to get by is doing sexual favours for people, thats whats wrong, and youve got to admit it is all a bit fucked up isnt it.
There will be bb's that dont participate in things like this but it seems obvious that they would find things much more easy if they are "yes men"
good thing this is just something you dreamed up then
Whats your problem? why is it whenever anything is mentioned in any thread on getbig about gay things happening in bodybuilding, you pop up and start crying and saying it cant be true, i know what i think the reason is and so probably does the majority of getbigs members apart from the ones with something to hide.
Notice how i said i dont think every single bodybuilder has to do this but i definitely think it would help them, are you really that delusional that you dont think this happens bluto?
so within minutes you went from "building an entire federation around it" and "young guy who goes out to california to pursue his dream and finds out the only way to get by is doing sexual favours for people" to "it happens" ?
why dont you start to name how many ifbb pros you think performed sexual favors for this NAMED judges and people of the ifbb (that you previously claimed dont know shit about bodybuilding and dont train themselves and are gay, when the truth is a lot of them have competed, are personal trainers, some are women etc.)
You must be one of those crazy bodybuilding fans that idolizes bodybuilders that much you cant comprehend any of your heroes doing these sorts of things, you sgould find some other people to worship because you come across as being a really sad individual and i actually feel sorry for you.
Funny how "Jimmy" seems to think he has no power of the big strong evil homosexual. Have you guys ever heard of standing up for yourselves. You mean to tell me all those big strong macho straight guys were all controlled by a gay guy?
Why is it "depraved homosexuals" but not depraved straight guys who will do anything for money or power?
Why is it that you guys see something so wrong in sexual favors in the bodybuilding world but when it comes to Hollywood or Las Vegas the centers of heterosexual depravity, where jobs and sex are intertwined, you all have nothing to say.
This thread may have some true "rumours" to it, especially about Arnold hustling, But trying to paint a conspiracy of Jewish homosexuals trying to get Christians to submit to homosexual sex sounds like a paranoid Nazi rant. Sounds like "Jimmy" lets fear and paranoia control his thoughts.
"Jimmy", I don't mind hearing your rumours, but why not put the blame for them squarely on both parties and stop trying to demonize gay men. You probably have some interesting things to say about rich powerful women as well? Are they all evil and out to destroy straight men?
Where are the inconsistencies in my posts? why does me saying i think something happens contradict my previous post saying what i believe to happen? How can i name people? i live in england and ive got no interest at all in competitive bodybuilding, especially not the npc and ifbb, the evidence is so overwhelming and has been posted so much by lots of different people, serge nubret being one of them, that the truth is blatantly staring you in the face, but you choose not to accept it.
You must be one of those crazy bodybuilding fans that idolizes bodybuilders that much you cant comprehend any of your heroes doing these sorts of things, you sgould find some other people to worship because you come across as being a really sad individual and i actually feel sorry for you.
This is the same person who thinks there's no way people with "solid backgrounds" such as strongmen, powerlifters, former competitors, and personal trainers could be gay...
Jimmy,
I laugh every time people try to cover up the industry. God forbid somebody exposes the truth about LA queens sitting around circle jerking whilst the newest pro-builder poses naked. Funny how people rarely ever put it all together (money for gear, this guy for contract, how does he afford not to work, etc...).
If I know the mods won't delete threads (deleted my last industry post), I'll give the inside scoop on East Coast muscle worship.
farm boy - yiddish
This is the same person who thinks there's no way people with "solid backgrounds" such as strongmen, powerlifters, former competitors, and personal trainers could be gay...
So where's this overwhelming evidence you keep talking about? I checked the list of people in the IFBB that you claim never work out etc, it turned out you were bullshitting and just made that up.
Who's trying to "cover anything up"?
Who really cares? Are there gay people in BB? Sure are. Have some guys resorted to "gay for pay" and all the other bullshit we hear about? I'm sure they have.
Bottom line is, there are plenty of us who have never done anything remotely involved in Gay for pay...and have worked plenty hard to get to the pro level working for a living and being able to hold ourselves with respect and dignity.
I know this type of stuff goes on...but it is the exception, not the rule...or the norm.
Who's trying to "cover anything up"?
Who really cares? Are there gay people in BB? Sure are. Have some guys resorted to "gay for pay" and all the other bullshit we hear about? I'm sure they have.
Bottom line is, there are plenty of us who have never done anything remotely involved in Gay for pay...and have worked plenty hard to get to the pro level working for a living and being able to hold ourselves with respect and dignity.
I know this type of stuff goes on...but it is the exception, not the rule...or the norm.
Some of the people Jimmy mention in this thread and claims being shady arranged and/or participated in powerlifting, strongmen etc as well ;)
The evidence is in jimmys posts, serge nubrets posts, many many ironagers and people around the industry who post on various websites the type of things that went on, jeez dont you think its a little odd that a man started an empire based around oiled up men in thongs in the 1940's, it seems obvious (to me anyway) that no one would do something like that especially in that era unless they were seriously intoi these oiled up men.
Im not the one making the claims, im the one who reds both sides of the story makes up my own mind and posts it on a message board, why do you feel so threatened by this thread?
You're completely missing the point; the one I made, at least. In your original post that I replied to, you implied that there was just no way some of these judges who have "solid backgrounds" in powerlifting, strongman, competing, and personal training could be gay. That's a ridiculous assumption. Who are you to say whether someone is/isn't gay just because they participated in any one or more of those?
That's not what I would call overwhelming evidence. That's just rumours from a few bitter old men. And those who agree with them share their homophobic views which is the real base for their anger and hatred. Homosexuality being the key issue here, any other wrongful things that might've happen none of you give a shit about. You're just obsessed with the gay part.
Like Chick and many others in this thread said (and yes, some of them been around that era as well, but you don't acknowledge them because their posts don't support your gay bashing) I'm sure it happens, but not as much as you claim it does.
No offence bob but you are bound to say that as you work for the people being accused here, im making sure i say i dont think that all bb's are doing this so it doesnt come across that i think every single pro is involved in gay activities. Ive got a few questions though if youve got time to answer them and feel comfartable doing so.
Would it benefit an individual bb in his career if he did favours for certain people in power?
Have you heard all the rumours about joe weider and his "preferences" and do you think theres any truth in them.
- gay & deal to enable those to place/exposure. In turn, whore themselves out with bullshit supplement endorsements (99.999%) to half-truth the public into buying.
The industry is just a grown man's muscle pageant decided on subjective criteria. Nothing more, nothing less.
You mean like everybody else in the advertise industry? Don't tell me I don't get as full of energy as Britney Spears when I drink Pepsi, or get more womens attention than Ben Affleck when I wear AXE?
You suggest there should be an OBJECTIVE critiera instead? ::)
pro tan - pro man
That's not what I would call overwhelming evidence. That's just rumours from a few bitter old men. And those who agree with them share their homophobic views which is the real base for their anger and hatred. Homosexuality being the key issue here, any other wrongful things that might've happen none of you give a shit about. You're just obsessed with the gay part.
Like Chick and many others in this thread said (and yes, some of them been around that era as well, but you don't acknowledge them because their posts don't support your gay bashing) I'm sure it happens, but not as much as you claim it does.
It's sad to imagine bodybuilding's greatest icon gogging on a dick, or bent on four knees taking it up the ass.
So how many do you think are doing it? 1 in 100? 10 in 100? according to you and your overwhelming eviendece and your little sob stories of young men who get abused by old men when they come to california, you make it sound like it's 99 outta 100.
Actually the original claim was that homosexuals were only into bodybuilding. But the truth is, the very same people that are suppose to be involved in arranging bodybuilding contests because they're gay, spent as much time, or more arranging all kinds of other sports (powerlifting, strongmen) etc. so they obviously have an interest in other things than "oiled up men in thongs"
Bluto are you gay? Is this why gaybashing offends you? I dont think gaybashing is what im doing, i am saying its wrong to be a sexual predator and if these things are true (which i believe they are) then it should be outed as the crap it is. Why do you support predatory sexual behaviour? Its coming across as if your defending it because you think its ok and something you participate in.
Thats my opinion if im wrong then i apologise. But it does seem to make sense now as for most of your posts you are defending being gay or gayness and any gay jokes are jumped on by you.
Oh so that's what this is, you're standing up against sexual predators ::)
Ive got no idea how many but it seems like a lot of the people who do well are doing it, the story of the guy going to california was an example of what could happen and probably does.
Its obvious your a middle aged man who sees himself in the jokes that get posted here, thats why you go after gordiano because he points out the obvious gay undertones of the industry you love and its now even more obvious why you love it.
Oh so that's what this is, you're standing up against sexual predators ::)
I said this a page or 2 ago, why do you doubt this?
Why did you ignore my question?
hahaa, yea thats it. What a tool. yorkshire terrier is just fear mongoring. This kind of demonizing of gay people has been going on for 2000 years. It never sticks though but guys like yorkshire terrier sure get satisfaaction from it. Maybe he should really do something about sexual predators and protect women and children. Instead he is decided to champion the cause of the poor helpess bodybuilder against the evil all powerful homossexual...hhahahahha hah...give me a break
nycbull i can see why you get pissed off at this as i remeber when you first became a member here you admitted to being gay, like i said ive nothing against gays just people who sexually harrass people offering them money,drugs,placings or whatever, you and bluto make a lovely couple.
what was the question? i dont belive you stand up against sexual predators. its always the GAY question. if this was about women getting harassed by men you wouldnt be posting. it's far too late in the game for you to claim to hold some high moral standards
No you retard my question was are you gay but youve cleared that one up for me so it doesnt matter now, why is it too late in the game, does not nearly everyone who ridicules bodybuilding ridicule it because of the gay 4 pay and people doing favours for placings etc, yet again your argument holds no water.
Your not very good at this are you bluto.
i've seen zero evidence that favours for placings exists. the whole judging system is from what i understand constructed so one or more, rotten apples as judges cannot change the placing order.
as for gay for pay, i dont know what this is and why that would mean anything. you seem to know a lot more about this than i do, please explain
that's some monster calves :-\
Neither have i, i just go on what i read, theres even been articles in mags such as musclemag warning people from going to california to follow there dreams because more often than not the only thing they find is some schmoe trying to take advantage of them.
As for not knowing what gay4pay is, come on bluto give it up everyone knows what your about now buddy.
Whats shocking is how many people on this board are obsessd with Gay for pay, muscle worshiping, who did what to who, who's gay, etc, etc....
How does this affect any one of you? Do you REALLY care about any of this?
I've never given a second thought to it as it has NOTHING to do with me, the sport itself, or any of the other aspects of my everyday life.
I've been given many offers over the years from gay guys...offers to pose, take pics, show up at a party, sponsor me, etc....a simple "thanks, but no thanks...not my thing"...always seemed to do the trick.
Why this is of interest to any of you is beyond me....
Neither have i, i just go on what i read, theres even been articles in mags such as musclemag warning people from going to California to follow there dreams because more often than not the only thing they find is some schmoe trying to take advantage of them.
As for not knowing what gay4pay is, come on bluto give it up everyone knows what your about now buddy.
Please...no one gets "coerced" of "forced" into any type of this activity...the reason so many fools find themselves in the unique predicament of "gay for pay" etc....is that they had no business coming out to L.A. to begin with.
No job, no means of support, no money saved, no place to stay other than their car...just a "dream" of being discovered and the next big thing in the BB world.
These guys end up wherethey do (nowhere) by choice, not circumstance.
haha. so what? people try to take advantage of others all day long. who gives a shit. but there's a big difference in that and fixed competitions that you claim happens on a regular bases, which might not even be POSSIBLE, if you check the judging system, yet you claim it as a fact.
you have no case. give it a rest.
Having said that I do belive that the Jews do think themselves to be the superior race and the fact that the gay jewish IFBB forces Christian straight men to take part in their rituals makes them even more pleased with themselves. Straight and non Jewish but servicing the depraved homosexual and bestial needs of the Jewish hierarchy, that is what it's all about for these guys.
Must hit the gym now.
How does this affect any one of you?
Hahaha i cant believe you dont think any type of politics comes into the final decision of a competition, poor bluto, you know wwe wrestling isnt real aswell, and theres no such thing as father christmas.
Lol your so easy to put in your place its silly, i like it when your around bluto, please continue to spend your entire day and night on getbig so i can kick you around whenever i log on 8)
All you guys are OWNING yourselves in epic proportions. Basicly you saying for the world to see tthat we homosexuals have complete power of you????.
The Muslims thing their superior too, and so do evangelical Christians, and oh yea the Mormons thing they are the chosen people. What exactly does that have to do with sex between consenting adults. This should go down as GetBigs most moronic post ever.
And, Jimmy how exactly does anyone force a 250lb testosterone fueled muscled heterosexual man into a "depraved homosexual ritual"? Sounds like all the drugs you did in your life time have gotten to your head. If these things that you claim occurred they occured between mature intelligent consenting adults. I find it hard to believe anyone can force a grown man into doing something they don't want to do, unless they put a gun to their head. Is that what you will be claiming next? oh brother
All you guys in this thread going along with Jimmy are OWNING yourselves in epic proportions. Basicly you saying for the world to see tthat we homosexuals have complete power of you?. Well at least you finally admitted it and on GETBIG of all places. Now on with our agenda of corrupting the world and turning all of you into interior decorators.
you damn homosexuals with your rituals !!! you're ruining the sport of bodybuilding !!!
Stop trying to make out your not gay, just come out and be done with it, youll feel better.
Even with the name youve chosen for yourself its obvious your either into or are a hairy gay man with a beard.
"Bluto" lol, bluto the musclebear :)
there you go with your gaybashing, you claim to have nothing against homosexuals yet you take any chance you get and try to insult or make fun out of people and their sexuality.
you just own yourself and end up in the same gang as that bitter nazi Jimmy who started this thread.
I always thought you were a homophobe and now you proved to be one.
you damn homosexuals with your rituals !!! you're ruining the sport of bodybuilding !!!
Yea yorkshire terrier must walk around so scared of a 100 lb limp wristed hair dresser pulling him into a pink flowered van and making him lisp the Star Spangled Banner...ahahaha. What can he weigh if he is so afraid of being abducted?
He and "jimmy" should form a militia and stop the spread of jewish hairdressers. hahahaha oh brother what two scared little men.
Yea yorkshire terrier must walk around so scared of a 100 lb limp wristed hair dresser pulling him into a pink flowered van and making him lisp the Star Spangled Banner...ahahaha. What can he weigh if he is so afraid of being abducted?
He and "jimmy" should form a militia and stop the spread of jewish hairdressers. hahahaha oh brother what two scared little men.
Im glad ive found you nycbull, were soulmates, do you like hairy men with beards who look like bluto from popeye, :-*
:o
good one doggie, you're getting so desperate you need to fabricate messages now. thats selfowning 101
:)
Until you can admit your sexuality i own you and you know it.
You seeth with disgust at what you are and the fact your so ahamed of it.
I know your type.
:D
im not ashamed of being homosexual. we are what we are, we don't pick it anymore than we can pick our parents. there can be no shame, when there can be no choice.
hope this helps.
Who said i was scared id never get on an ifbb stage to be masturbated over by the likes of you, your ashamed of your sexuality because as i remember after you admitted to being gay when you first registered you later removed the post and pretended you werent, i feel sorry for you aswell.
The only people ho are scared here are the like of you and bewtwo who dont want there seedy world to be outed, sad :-[
what??, dude, dont' lie...I have been out since day one, and I have never pretended otherwise. Flat out lie.
Seedy side, yea there is a seedy side, thank God. And you guys don't, what is Las Vegas exactly? Your sounding more and more puritanicle by the post. Are you a Mormon by any chance?
BTW interesting study about homophobes....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8772014
Adams HE, Wright LW Jr, Lohr BA.
Department of Psychology, University of Georgia, Athens 30602-3013, USA.
The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.
Who's trying to "cover anything up"?
Who really cares? Are there gay people in BB? Sure are. Have some guys resorted to "gay for pay" and all the other bullshit we hear about? I'm sure they have.
Bottom line is, there are plenty of us who have never done anything remotely involved in Gay for pay...and have worked plenty hard to get to the pro level working for a living and being able to hold ourselves with respect and dignity.
I know this type of stuff goes on...but it is the exception, not the rule...or the norm.
Please...no one gets "coerced" of "forced" into any type of this activity...the reason so many fools find themselves in the unique predicament of "gay for pay" etc....is that they had no business coming out to L.A. to begin with.
No job, no means of support, no money saved, no place to stay other than their car...just a "dream" of being discovered and the next big thing in the BB world.
These guys end up wherethey do (nowhere) by choice, not circumstance.
Whats shocking is how many people on this board are obsessd with Gay for pay, muscle worshiping, who did what to who, who's gay, etc, etc....
How does this affect any one of you? Do you REALLY care about any of this?
I've never given a second thought to it as it has NOTHING to do with me, the sport itself, or any of the other aspects of my everyday life.
I've been given many offers over the years from gay guys...offers to pose, take pics, show up at a party, sponsor me, etc....a simple "thanks, but no thanks...not my thing"...always seemed to do the trick.
Why this is of interest to any of you is beyond me....
is "jimmy" scared off of his own thread.........?
Whats shocking is how many people on this board are obsessd with Gay for pay, muscle worshiping, who did what to who, who's gay, etc, etc....why is there mags like the national enquier? because people care more about the dirt then the actual show!
How does this affect any one of you? Do you REALLY care about any of this?
I've never given a second thought to it as it has NOTHING to do with me, the sport itself, or any of the other aspects of my everyday life.
I've been given many offers over the years from gay guys...offers to pose, take pics, show up at a party, sponsor me, etc....a simple "thanks, but no thanks...not my thing"...always seemed to do the trick.
Why this is of interest to any of you is beyond me....
why is there mags like the national enquier? because people care more about the dirt then the actual show!
why was this site flooded when the titus shit went down, people dont care much about bodybuilding, most of us want the dirt!
Dirt is one thing...obsessing of the "gay" aspect and making virtually every post about it is whats alarming to me...the "Gordiano's" of the world that make some kind of gay reference in every post, whether it be about gay subject matter or not is very telling, and weird.
Gayer than a pink bath house.Gayer than avoiding bench press to "play it safe".
Dirt is one thing...obsessing of the "gay" aspect and making virtually every post about it is whats alarming to me...the "Gordiano's" of the world that make some kind of gay reference in every post, whether it be about gay subject matter or not is very telling, and weird.
If I have a view about homosexuality as being unnatural why do I get put down?
I have a my morals, values and opinions why not respect that.
If I have a view about homosexuality as being unnatural why do I get put down?
I do think its unnatural and for somebody to tell me that I'm ignorant, a hater and to get with the 21st century, I think thats bullshit. I dont hate gays, I dont cause violence or any kind of vulgar behaviour towards them. I make the occasional gay joke and I say my opinion about gays adopting children, marriage etc. In a few years lets say sex with animals becomes some kind of norm, and everybody in that century is saying that you are ignorant, a hater and to get with the times, what would you say to that? I have a my morals, values and opinions why not respect that.
How is it unnatural
"Please...no one gets "coerced" of "forced" into any type of this activity...the reason so many fools find themselves in the unique predicament of "gay for pay" etc....is that they had no business coming out to L.A. to begin with.
No job, no means of support, no money saved, no place to stay other than their car...just a "dream" of being discovered and the next big thing in the BB world.
These guys end up wherethey do (nowhere) by choice, not circumstance."
I drove to Los Angeles in October 1968 with $200 in my pocket and a Shell credit card. I slept in my car for a week or more. Joe Gold asked me how long I was going to be in LA and I said a few weeks. He didn't charge me to train at his Golds Gym. I did offer to do cleaning at the gym but he didn't want any help. That was nice of Joe. I met a few guys there including Dave Draper, Zabo, and Arnold. I became mates with a cynical guy from Chicago named Chip Wilson. He is in the photo I took of Arnold, Chuck Fautz, Zabo and Chip that was published in MTI back in 69. When Chip found out I was sleeping in my car he invited me to sleep on the sofa in his flat and gave me keys to his place that he shared with his mate from Chicago. No, they were definitely not queer.
I lasted a month in LA. I had a social security card but didn't feel right trying to get a job in LA because Canadians could be deported for illegally working there and I didn't want anything bad on my record in case I tried to emigrate there. I see Arnold is still in California while I live in Sydney.
In the old days a few guys like Larry Scott appeared in mags that were aimed at gays. Bodybuilders and models wore g-strings and we all wondered if appearing in those magazines affected their placing in AAU Mr America contests. Well, Larry Scott never enterred the AAU Mr America but did win the IFBB Mr America. We all thought that Joe and Ben were giving us pure bodybuilding contests that didn't have interviews and athletic points. We suspected that the AAU people were too controlling of who won their contests. Bob Hoffman was behind the AAU bodybuilding and weightlifting scene. I heard plenty of his stories first hand when I visited York in 1965. He seemed very heterosexual to me but he delighted in relating tales of his sexual prowess to those of us using his gym that summer.
Ray Mentzer and his gal, Kathy, stayed at my place for months in 1987-8. He used to tell me how the AAU had meetings of the officials in two different hotels. I asked why then needed two different hotels and he didn't know but I think he supposed something clandestine was occurring. He accused Joe of influencing who won the Mr America contest because he said whoever Joe picked to go to the judges meeting with won the show. He said that Joe took him to the judges meeting in 1979 but didn't think that was suspicious! I laughed and told him that Joe had picked him to win and he did win. Naturally, Ray was adamant that he deserved to win and Joe had nothing to do with it! I had to smile at the obliviousness of Ray. Anyone who met Ray knew he was an intense guy who saw lots of unsavoury things going on. Ray was intelligent and just wanted to be left alone because he didn't bother anyone. Ray and I got along just fine. I even introduced him to Pam who he eventually married but divorced many years later. I stayed with Pam and Ray in April 1991. He told me he was preparing for a big show but got sick when he approached 300 pounds. He said several of the other big guys were getting sick when they got huge, too. He never said what he suffered from but we all know his kidneys were shot and he died a tragic death related to needing to be on dialysis a few times every week. When his brother, Mike, died in 2001 Ray must have been shocked because Mike was his last hope of a kidney transplant. The sad thing is Mike was in really bad health and probably could not have donated his kidney to Ray. I doubt Ray wanted to live the rest of his life hooked up to some machine.
I can appreciate your stories...but what did it have to do with what I said that you quoted?
I agree...there is no credability in his posts. Just sad that people take it as gospel instead of what it is...one's man's view and and speculation.
I agree...there is no credability in his posts. Just sad that people take it as gospel instead of what it is...one's man's view and and speculation.he is a sad little pathetic bitch of an old man isn't he? he must have had a shitty life to be so bitter.
I did hear a story about some gay rich guy offering to give Arnold $1000 to do oral sex on Arnold after an Olympia in the old days. Arnold apparently turned the guy down but another guy in the contest said he would do it for that much money! We never heard if that short guy actually did anything or if it was said as a joke.
dont try to stop the flow of free info bob
relax slaveboy, im sure jimmy thomson got some juicy stories left if you PM him!
sure hope so, eventho you totally tried to f**k up this tread with posts that you could have sent via pm to gordiano.
jimmy keep the info coming bro!
;D
How is it unnatural?
Goes against reproduction, going against nature.
I agree...there is no credability in his posts. Just sad that people take it as gospel instead of what it is...one's man's view and and speculation.jeeee , he has just as much cred or more then you... the guys been on the scene before you were shit out!
Making statements about guys who have more than 100 million dollars is foolish if those statements are slanderous. Those people will be aware of what Jimmy is posting.the guy is in his 70's like hes real worried jeeeez!
I train in holytown or if im struggling i train in livingwell that is attatched to the hilton in bellshill. what about you?^^in my moms basement!
in my moms basement!
we have coal bunkers...lol! i might try that gym out MC, trained at the jjb in easterhouse for a coupla months, was far to clean and prettyboy for me. i dont like having to get dressed up to go train...lol!
oralsex goes against reproduction as well. so i hope you dont let a girl blow you, how would you be able to handle such an UNNATURAL act!
Im talking about reproduction, not pleasureable acts. Oral sex does not go against reproduction, it has nothing to do with reproduction, neither does masturbation, getting high, working out, etc.n You missed the point.
If I have a view about homosexuality as being unnatural why do I get put down?
I do think its unnatural and for somebody to tell me that I'm ignorant, a hater and to get with the 21st century, I think thats bullshit. I dont hate gays, I dont cause violence or any kind of vulgar behaviour towards them. I make the occasional gay joke and I say my opinion about gays adopting children, marriage etc. In a few years lets say sex with animals becomes some kind of norm, and everybody in that century is saying that you are ignorant, a hater and to get with the times, what would you say to that? I have a my morals, values and opinions why not respect that.
well why would reproduction mean anything? homosexuality exists in nature, in humans and in animals. so in that sense it IS natural. but yeah, two women having sex wont reproduce. and two men having sex wont either. so what.
Vienno, thanks for comparing sex with animals to sex between consenting adults. Great logic you have there.
Also, you natural argument is about 2000 years old. If you were to devalue anything that isn't natural you would have to include your computer, medicine, artificial limbs and even steroids.
As far as it being unnatural to reproduction I suppose you want to be the one to tell the millions of steril couples in the world that they are unnatural and should have their marriage licenses revolked? Are you going to go into every couples bedroom that doesn plan on procreating and telling them that they can't have sex because it would be unnatural? Give me a break
Vienio "Getbigs very own Sex Cop", Invading bedrooms everywhere.
Dude take a course in logic and ethics before you start spouting off your mouth on a message board.
well why would reproduction mean anything? homosexuality exists in nature, in humans and in animals. so in that sense it IS natural. but yeah, two women having sex wont reproduce. and two men having sex wont either. so what.
OK I'm back from my monthly trip to London. I sit on the board of a Plc as non executive Director once a month. Nice location in Knighsbridge next door to Harrods. I also advise to the board of Scottish Enterprise and have non exec roles in 2 other businesses. This is what happens when you apply yourself to your studies and career in your 30's and 40's and only do bodybuilding as a hobby. These non exec positions only take up 4 days a month and boy do they top up the old pension nicely.
I'm going to wait until the hysteria dies down before continuing my posts. Funny that Vince mentions the richest guy in the world. He is talking about John Paul Getty who was a staunch bodybuilding supporter. Getty, the Weiders , Heidenstam and Saville were the force behind the cult. I will detail more soon but please everyone stop the hysteria and homophobia.
By the way Vince, there is no law of liable in Scotland. ;)
Making statements about guys who have more than 100 million dollars is foolish if those statements are slanderous. Those people will be aware of what Jimmy is posting.
Its only slander if not true. Jimmy has been around even longer than you Vince. You are getting like Chic now. What motive does he have to lie. The IFBB has been crooked since its inception. Anything can happen and more than likely has. I lean towards believing what Jimmy says has happened than when Chic says it doesn't happen.
Its only slander if not true. Jimmy has been around even longer than you Vince. You are getting like Chic now. What motive does he have to lie. The IFBB has been crooked since its inception. Anything can happen and more than likely has. I lean towards believing what Jimmy says has happened than when Chic says it doesn't happen.
Christ there really coming in now, here is a message from a post by well known bodybuilding writer Bill Mortimer :
I saw Kal go to the mic during the evening show of I believe the AAU Mr. So Cal mid-early 80s. He went on an amazing rant about Weider. I wish I could remember the details. I do remember him saying something like..."Joe, I know some of your people are here tonight...if anything I just said is not true sue me". He got a standing ovation.
Rumors were hot during that time that an expose was comming out about the bisexuality of the Weiders and what it really took to make it to the top in their camp.
Of course I'm just a lying pathetic jealous old man who would trade his successfull family and professional life for some more Tin trophies am I not ? ;)
Yeah homosexuality exits, doest mean its natural, I BELEIVE that it exists because of some genetic deficiency.
The comparison between humans and animal sex was used to argue the arguement peopel use "to get with the 21st century". Its so accepted now that if you go against it you, are ignorant and old fashonied. My point was that if something is not accepted now and will be accepted in 50 years, lets see what this generation will think. YOu can use any argument-that was just an example.
My argument is 2000 years old?
and.....? Sounds like a good one if it has lasted that long.
Dude, you should be more like Bluto.
Lol bluto is only agreeing with you nycbull because all he does is sit in front of his pc on this site and opens various threads and disagrees with people in it, hes just a saddo who sadly has just got nothing better to do.
That and the fact he thinks he might have a chance of getting a bit of action from you. Do you like men who dress in leathers and look like bluto from popeye?
you should be thankful to masculine gay culture. In fact they are the leaders in preserving what is left of 20th century masculinity after being decimated and castrated by feminists. Funny how you think being and looking masculine is wrong. Man up dude. Let me guess you shave your chest, pluck your eyebrows and wear Axe body spray.... :-X :-X
What on earth is axe bodyspray? if its some homo type of spray then your probably better off asking bluto.
Actually in all seriousness i dont think theres anything worse than a bloke who plucks his eyebrows it looks absolutely ridiculous.
I've just received another e-mail from an Ironage member. This time it is a post by Jon Meade. Is he a member on this site ?
It's too bad I left Muscle Digest when I did, as I was ready
to expose a story within the bodybuilding community that
would have made the Titus tale just about tame (tho in
all respect, it didn't involve death, although could have).
And for those times and 1981, it would have blown the
lid off the b.b. community and industry. There's not another
story like it, before or since.
Wonder what he is talking about ;)
But of course I'm only a sad old man spreading made up stories am I not ? ;)
Chick, Did you ever get propositioned for homo sex? Did you ever see anything like this. You have been around BB for a long time, you must have some insight.
It took you 20 years to get your pro card. Wonder if you gave in to some behind action if you would have gotten it sooner. I commend you for your persistence and hard work, but honestly, do you not find it at all homosexual being in a room with a bunch of guys wearing speedos gettign oiled up with people gawking at you.
Tell me this. Do you get freaked out when guys want to touch your muscles?
I knew this one guy who competed and I swear it was wierd, I saw him at a supplement store and at the drop of a hat pulled off his shirt and dropped his pants to show us his physique days out from a show. I kind of felt uncomfortable, but he had no issues.
Jimmy. Don't let some of these haters get to you.
Yes, I've already stated I've been propositioned 100's of times...so have most pro's. Easy to just ignore the email, not respond, or simply say "No thanks" if they're in person...after you've been in te biz for a while, I think they know who's not interested, as the propositions and inquiries get fewer and less frequent.
No, Honestly I don't find it homosexual to be involved in BB...why would I? I'm not homosexual...I'm at a show to compete and compare my physique level to other pro BB....Would you find playing Rugby "gay" or "homosexual"? Groping, touching, sweating with a bunch of guys while wearing skimpy shorts....or wrestling? rolling around with another guy trying to "pin" him in a submissive position?
You can see where I'm going with this...you can put a "gay" spin on just about anything if that's what you perceive....the only people that look at it as gay, are those who wish to look at it as gay...for whatever reasons thy choose....thy'r gay themselves, they're fighting their own inner demons, they have a chip on their shoulder, etc...
Yes, I've already stated I've been propositioned 100's of times...so have most pro's. Easy to just ignore the email, not respond, or simply say "No thanks" if they're in person...after you've been in te biz for a while, I think they know who's not interested, as the propositions and inquiries get fewer and less frequent.
No, Honestly I don't find it homosexual to be involved in BB...why would I? I'm not homosexual...I'm at a show to compete and compare my physique level to other pro BB....Would you find playing Rugby "gay" or "homosexual"? Groping, touching, sweating with a bunch of guys while wearing skimpy shorts....or wrestling? rolling around with another guy trying to "pin" him in a submissive position?
You can see where I'm going with this...you can put a "gay" spin on just about anything if that's what you perceive....the only people that look at it as gay, are those who wish to look at it as gay...for whatever reasons thy choose....thy'r gay themselves, they're fighting their own inner demons, they have a chip on their shoulder, etc...
Jimmy-how about answering the question regarding competing in a lifetime natural federation when you are a self confessed drug user ie cheating.Do you think this was rife at the time?
maybe next month. In the meantime he's busy fabricating more bullshit lies.
Ask me specific questions about individuals and I will give my opinion. But ask yourself this, how come so many guys who do not look like they even work out have such high places within NABBA ot the IFBB? The Weiders? Oscar State? Ivan Dunbar? What is it that attracts them to bodybuilding when they don't have a physique themselves?they're faggits
What on earth is axe bodyspray? if its some homo type of spray then your probably better off asking bluto.
Actually in all seriousness i dont think theres anything worse than a bloke who plucks his eyebrows it looks absolutely ridiculous.
Actually I use AXE. I smells great. It seems like everytime I wear it at least one or more girls will say how nice I smell. And I am the farthest you can get from being gay.
I dont think we have axe over here.
They have really funny commercials. I have a small can of it I keep in my car. Just spray it on.
The reason i believe jimmys posts is because people like you and lots of other respected people in this scene seem to think hes not making it up, the only people who dont believe it are the people you would expect no to for obvious reasons.
This is why the rest of getbig will believe it aswell, and everyone in this industry reads getbig.
I believe that if someone is going to lie and blantly says things that possibly could be slanderous or damaging and potentially have negative ramifications against them personally, then their must be a powerful motive. Enough of a motive to risk EVERYTHING. I see Jimmy as a person who has competed, has lived the lifestyle and experienced things first hand. He is not ruled or controlled by the Weiders or others and can say what he wants cause they can't do anything to affetc his life. Others like Chic can only say positive things. He is under their control. They control his life and future. I will always beleive a person who has been there and done that before a person who just reads and hears things at the gym or from others who have no actual experince. Just like Serge. He can say what he wants cause the powers to be have no influence on him or can do anything to him.
I respect the elders on here. They have stories and opinions that have substance. They lived it. They were there. Most of the people on here have never met any of the people they talk about. I take actual experience over heresay and reading about it in a magazine anyday.
Well, I don't know about you, guys, but when you see two top caliber pro bodybuilders engaging in this type of joke (calm down tiger, they're just joking around.&NR ) , it's very sad and it says a lot about the sport. Having said that, I tend to give a lot of credit to what Jimmy's been airing here, on this thread. It's very sad because you do change the way you view the sport and the athletes. It leaves some kinda sour taste when you whatch a training DVD or read a muscle magazine after reading such awful things. Try putting pumping iron in your DVD right now and see what I mean.... :-[
calm down tiger, they're just joking around.
I know they are fooling around, piece of thurd, read my post AGAIN. But it's precisely this type of behaviour that gives bb a bad name and helps to add insult to injury, or gasoline to the fire. Would you fool around with your friends in this exact type of joke?? Well, I may be asking this to the wrong person, look at you ::)....but I can asure you I would never lean into this type of joke with my friends, and I guess every normal guy would pic and choose every kinda joke in the book but this one. :-[...For instance, why didn't Rockel scratch the 'tip of the rubber penis' at his lady friend's face, instead of giving it to Markus to mimmic a blow job? That's what I am talking about....
I know they are fooling around, piece of thurd, read my post AGAIN. But it's precisely this type of behaviour that gives bb a bad name and helps to add insult to injury, or gasoline to the fire. Would you fool around with your friends in this exact type of joke?? Well, I may be asking this to the wrong person, look at you ::)....but I can asure you I would never lean into this type of joke with my friends, and I guess every normal guy would pic and choose every kinda joke in the book but this one. :-[...For instance, why didn't Rockel scratch the 'tip of the rubber penis' at his lady friend's face, instead of giving it to Markus to mimmic a blow job? That's what I am talking about....
I know they are fooling around, piece of thurd, read my post AGAIN. But it's precisely this type of behaviour that gives bb a bad name and helps to add insult to injury, or gasoline to the fire. Would you fool around with your friends in this exact type of joke?? Well, I may be asking this to the wrong person, look at you ::)....but I can asure you I would never lean into this type of joke with my friends, and I guess every normal guy would pic and choose every kinda joke in the book but this one. :-[...For instance, why didn't Rockel scratch the 'tip of the rubber penis' at his lady friend's face, instead of giving it to Markus to mimmic a blow job? That's what I am talking about....
Agreed dude, but not sure why Jimmy has to filter his experience through his fears. A gay jewish cult perfoming homosexual rituals over innocent straight bodybuilders? give me a break. Any adult who consents to any kind of sexual favor is fully responsible for their actions and knows perfectly well what they are doing. Leave the hate and fear mongering out of it.
And Axe body spray? you? well there goes another big macho dude? ;D
After seeing those commercials with all the girls I figured I need as much help as possible nowadays.
men dont need any perfume, maybe a light after shave and thats it If the guy is clean he will smell best naturallly especially a bearded guy, no perfume , no scented deodorant. and as the days go on the girls will not be ablt to resist whiffs of you testosterone fueled jet scents. YOu'll have the girls swoon once you tuck thum under your manly smellin armpit...and their all yours for the night..ggrrrrrrrrrrBearded? fuk that shit,beards are for hom0s ;D
go for it onlyme, your the only real man around here.
Bearded? f**k that shit,beards are for hom0s ;D
translation: im not old enough to shave yet
dude what is your problem, they were having a fun time. IT would not have been funny if he tipped it to his girl friend it would have been rude. He was making a joke. You are coming across as the biggest phobe by not getting a simple joke.
Lol, dont diss beards in front of bluto, his entire musclebear image is based on the character bluto from popeye.
Hows the pretend MMA your into going :D
got that right.
mma is going well. now for my 10th year :)
Serious question, you say youve been practicing mma for 10 years yet havent got any martial arts belts or have yet to have an actual fight...hmmm, something doesnt ring true here.
Ill let people make up there own minds. ;)
there's no belts in mma
hope this helps
Yes but as the name suggests its mixed martial arts and apart from wrestling and muay thai you would think someone who claims to have been doing it 10 years would have some knowledge of the traditional martial arts.
Besides for the last 3 years or whatever youve spent 20 plus hours a day on here, are you telling fibs to make friends blutes?
i've got plenty of knowledge of traditional martial arts. whats that gotta do with anything? you're the idiot claiming i should have a belt, in martial arts that dont have belts ::)
Your the one lying about doing MMA.
Everyones a cage fighter.
why would i be lying about that? i dont see mma any different than if people were doing football, or bowling
you're the one that is so obsessed with guys training mma. i didnt bring that shit up, you did
i guess deep inside you know that i could beat the shit out of you and that scares you, relax
Deep down i know you spend the day in your pants with a box of cereal and large bottle of milk sat in front of the pc on getbig all day :D
try work getting paid while posting on the net sport
not that a welfare case like you would know anything about that, after all you're here everytime i am
these lame attempts to insult me doesnt work, been on here for TOO long bring your game up or stop posting
dude what is your problem, they were having a fun time. IT would not have been funny if he tipped it to his girl friend it would have been rude. He was making a joke. You are coming across as the biggest phobe by not getting a simple joke.exactly, sounds like "MR. Michael Moore" is a bit too touchy on the gay sex issue.
exactly, sounds like "MR. Michael Moore" is a bit too touchy on the gay sex issue.
Same could be said about you.does your sister shave her pusssy?
does your sister shave her pusssy?
translation: im not old enough to shave yetOnly my nuts ;D
why would i be lying about that? i dont see mma any different than if people were doing football, or bowlingi'm sure he's terrified. ::)
you're the one that is so obsessed with guys training mma. i didnt bring that shit up, you did
i guess deep inside you know that i could beat the shit out of you and that scares you, relax
i'm sure he's terrified. ::)
bluto is still in this thread the little hercule poirot ;D
jimmy where are you?
Read the other thread. Apparantely this was never the real Jimmy who posted. So not only dit it sound like a lot of bullshit, turns out it wasn't even the real person who posted.
lol..well it was still alot of fun. ;D...what thread?
there was a post made saying it was all fake etc and the real guy didnt post here, the age wasnt the same and so on
look for it
Stop trying to make out your not gay, just come out and be done with it, youll feel better.
Even with the name youve chosen for yourself its obvious your either into or are a hairy gay man with a beard.
"Bluto" lol, bluto the musclebear :)
What a wanker you are!
You know what they say about those who cry out the loudest...
I rest my case
What a wanker you are!
You know what they say about those who cry out the loudest...
I rest my case
Hey Lee:)
Would it not be cool if Michael Moore himself would make an investigative documentary on the IFBB, kind of like Fahrenheit 911?
Damn those guys have graveyards in their closets....
Joe Weider is a bisexual paederast. He plays "daddy" to the I.F.B.B pros. It wouldn't surprise me at all if several bodybuilders took part in orgies with Weider and his buddies back in the day. Arnold gagging on Joe's dick would be the ultimate idol-destroying scene. :-\ :-X
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Dude... I just ate breakfast...
Jimmy have you heard the rumor that Kamali is Bi and likes young boys?You mean like Shawn Ray :o
Hmm seems kinda funny that what i say pisses you off so much when it seems that here you are in another thread saying exactly the same thing.
I guess that means your owned, bluto id delete this gimmick account and start a new one its lamer than your buto handle.
Hello? It`s your gay bashing I am refering too... Not the Ifbb.Oi if its ok for men to fuk men then its ok to fuk sheep , Lay off the wooly love muscle warmers ok. :P :-*
Your gay comments have a lot in common with the KKK propaganda those retarded sheepfuckers, spew out.
Your constant bashing is ridiculous...
Why do men scare you that much?
A persons sexuality can be quite scary for some people, you know...
Oi if its ok for men to f**k men then its ok to f**k sheep , Lay off the wooly love muscle warmers ok. :P :-*
Haven`t you been taking your inbred pills lately?Im not related to the sheep ,sheesh what do you think I am sick or somthing ::)
Hello? It`s your gay bashing I am refering too... Not the Ifbb.
Your gay comments have a lot in common with the KKK propaganda those retarded sheepfuckers, spew out.
Your constant bashing is ridiculous...
Why do men scare you that much?
A persons sexuality can be quite scary for some people, you know...
nycbull
Where is your evidence that its not a genetic deficiency?
There is evidence for both sides, I know this, in my opinion my argument has more value, in your opinion your argument has more value. I can present evidence from studies and theories and you can present evidence that go against my evidence, the point is there is no SOLID evidence and that’s why there are different theories. It’s a matter of what makes sense to you.
Your ‘genetic advantage ‘argument has nothing to do with genetic deficiency. (You are of topic because it sounds like you don’t know what a genetic deficiency is). Just cause someone has a genetic deficiency doesn’t mean that they are ‘weaker’ in society, they can be ‘stronger’. Where did I say that its bad to be gay???
I never implied that unnatural things have no value, I cant believe you would say something like this. Unnatural human innovations? Why are you bringing this up, whos talking about innovations? Rape? Man seriously, what are you talking about, so off topic.
You are not staying on topic and you are trying to put me down, I cant talk to people like you.
Have your own opinion, I’ll have mine and if you want to argue about something, avoid making assumptions like you did, stay on topic and know what you’re talking about.
I'm straight, but the fact is gayness is natural. It occurs in nature.I wonder if the first thing thats crosses your mind when being held at knife point is to ask him/her if they are gay haha.
Why does anyone give a shit?
I've never been attacked with a knife by a gay guy before.
Haha agree,Hering the kinky goings on of the IFBB is funny stuff,Ben Weider in drag ahahaha what a site :D
Bring back Jimmy Thompson!Bump for J.T..Who removed most of his replys from this thread?
Bluto ruined this whole thread
bluto is a #### >:(
and a schmoe, they should rename getbig to getbent in honor of Bluto the puffer ;D
yes !
if this thread taught us anything, its that bluto loves penis :-X
i wonder if old Bent Weirder got to bum Dex before died ;D