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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: Disgusted on May 14, 2007, 06:18:26 PM
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I told you guys that I would bring King back to his old 2001 condition and I did and then some. Not bad for training 13 weeks after a 4 months layoff. So, for those of you who think that he looked better in Atlantic City or that he still has a big waist or that he should retire and whatever else blah blah blah stick this in your pipe and smoke it. ;D PS Anyone who has any 2001 pics bring them on!! I would love to see the comparisons.
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He improved, but he cannot be saved as his genes are absolute shit.
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Are you serious?
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One more. ;D
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Disgusted, I respect you.......but what about the oil in his arms?
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haha Disguted
I thought you was serious. You sure are a funny guy ;D
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Jim.... whatever you're smoking......
...pass...the...pipe...
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Disguted when tamali did smith machine squats which spotter was you?
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why is chick eating naked with sherri?
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Never once did I ever make a top 5 prediction. In fact, King was never supposed to compete till Sept. as we were going to concentrate on building some much needed mass, but unfortunatley that was not a possibility due to the circumstances that he HAD to compete early, so the best I could hope to do was to bring him in tight and about the same weight as his 2001 condition. These pictures speak for themselves. Like I said, bring on the 2001 pics and prove me wrong.
PS I have the cure for Palumboism. ;D
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Never once did I ever make a top 5 prediction. In fact, King was never supposed to compete till Sept. as we were going to concentrate on building some much needed mass, but unfortunatley that was not a possibility due to the circumstances that he HAD to compete early, so the best I could hope to do was to bring him in tight and about the same weight as his 2001 condition. These pictures speak for themselves. Like I said, bring on the 2001 pics and prove me wrong.
PS I have the cure for Palumboism. ;D
please wise one enlighten us.
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PS I have the cure for Palumboism. ;D
you can mask the symptoms . . . but there is no cure. :-\
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One more. ;D
no calves, no sweep, and oil bag arms.....nice color.
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PS I have the cure for Palumboism. ;D
You do...... Thats all i wanted to see and you proved right.
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If palumboism was truly caused by visceral fat, staying lean should be the cure....but this is not the case
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I can see the big difference in his gut. His calves look as shitty as mine though.
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you can mask the symptoms . . . but there is no cure. :-\
Yeah yeah yeah, blah blah blah, you guys are fun. ;D His waist is TIGHT! and you guys are having a hard time swallowing the bitter pill you created once you have been proven wrong. I love it!! ;D
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you are turning to the dark side(the delusional one ;D)
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No 2001 pics anyone? ::) Someone find a 2001 pic of King's side relaxed and prove me wrong!!! Can't be done as he looks almost exactly the same only sharper.
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BOOM!!!
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Thought King looked fantastic, just needed more mass. Heres an 01 pic. Good job Magnum tell King he has some fans on GetBig and to answer his emails!!!!!!!!!
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king looks good there.
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disgusted, Magnum.... whoever....
9th Place at 2nd Tier Pro show is sad... I don't give a damn if he took a year off, with the drugs he uses getting in shape is not a problem. I applaud you for trying to "fix" King. You cannot fix the structural flaws he has, I.E. now sweep, oil filled arms, and overgrown obliques... unless he has cosmetic surgery of the cutting edge these things cannot be fixed. you would have surgical remove 2 " of muscle of his obliques to bring his waist " down".
My prediction is he will start losing sponsors if he does not start pacing higher, Muzzeltech is not going to keep him around just because of his posing antics. Which are not that great anyways, he gets applause is NY because thats his hometown. now that you have guys like Kai Green getting condioned better King will be lucky if places higher than 10th in any show, for gods sake he got outplaced by a guy 5' 3"....
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Thanks getfast for the pics! Nice comparison.
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why is chick eating naked with sherri?
It's the IFBB way of relaxing after sex. Like some smoke cigarettes, others sleep, pros eat naked
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he looks good in those pics but certainly not the MD pics! Very odd...
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disgusted, Magnum.... whoever....
9th Place at 2nd Tier Pro show is sad... I don't give a damn if he took a year off, with the drugs he uses getting in shape is not a problem. I applaud you for trying to "fix" King. You cannot fix the structural flaws he has, I.E. now sweep, oil filled arms, and overgrown obliques... unless he has cosmetic surgery of the cutting edge these things cannot be fixed. you would have surgical remove 2 " of muscle of his obliques to bring his waist " down".
My prediction is he will start losing sponsors if he does not start pacing higher, Muzzeltech is not going to keep him around just because of his posing antics. Which are not that great anyways, he gets applause is NY because thats his hometown. now that you have guys like Kai Green getting condioned better King will be lucky if places higher than 10th in any show, for gods sake he got outplaced by a guy 5' 3"....
Um yeah ok. ::)
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I also would like to know how much King spent on "prep" for 9th place at ta 2nd Tier Pro show.... ::)
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he looks good in those pics but certainly not the MD pics! Very odd...
Of course not, cause he is not flexed all the way in any of them. I noticed that right off.
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ray charles called and said he could see how he has gotten worse every year... a quick search under king kamali 2001 brings up some good photos...look at his arms and there is your answer...sherri used to have biceps
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Um yeah ok. ::)
Magnum... I say again I applaud you but don't act like a "guru" I know a lot of guys on Promuscle think your some kind of God or something, but King has known for 3 years what he needs to do. I personally think "guru's" are just Pharmacuetical Salespeople anyways.... Like stated above you cannot "fix" his structual flaws it's not possible...
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Thanks getfast for the pics! Nice comparison.
here ya go Jim!
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Magnum... I say again I applaud you but don't act like a "guru" I know a lot of guys on Promuscle think your some kind of God or something, but King has known for 3 years what he needs to do. I personally think "guru's" are just Pharmacuetical Salespeople anyways.... Like stated above you cannot "fix" his structual flaws it's not possible...
I think you're confusing him with The Chad. Disgusted DID improve Kamali last year from a tub of shit to looking decent (for Kamali)in the Montreal.
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Jim, good job on the condition
you did an awesome freaking job as King was ripped
here is some suggestion tho: The way he does his front relax makes his waist look WIDE, his shoulders non-existant and arms smaller
tell him to drop the arms a little bit and he will look A LOT better in that shot
what do you think ?
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Interesting in those photos to compare the biceps and triceps. The biceps is migrating to the elbow on the left arm but receding to the shoulder on the same triceps. Something interesting occurring there. He might be the first man to change the shape of his biceps.
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want to see how bad sherri has gotten? do a search and look at his websiite
http://www.kingkamali.com/gallery/3_days_b4_ironman.asp
comparing his side relaxed pose is his best shot and ridiculous...let's talk about how his arms are the worst oil spill since the valdez...WHERE DID HIS CALVES GO OVE THE YEARS?
magnum your repuatation is ruined try telling us he looks better than in 2001 now!!!!!!!!!
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here ya go Jim!
Midsection looks a bit bigger. For most pros I would believe thats normal anyway with the added size and constant dieting and what not. Conditioning is awesome though. Just needs some added mass.
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Triumphantly in 9th place?
we've got the king of oxymorons here . . .
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I think you're confusing him with The Chad. Disgusted DID improve Kamali last year from a tub of shit to looking decent (for Kamali)in the Montreal.
Thanks.
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Jim know his shit in the condition departement, that's for sure
King's biggest problem is the way he does his poses
he has a good back yet the way he does the lat spread he looks thin compared to the other guys
and he squat down wich make his legs look smaller too
posing is the biggest problem
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Jim, what was King's weight in 2001 vs 2007?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165404;image)
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here ya go Jim!
pwned
heres another one from around that time
(http://www.kulturistika.com/gallery/1114111711_1068.jpg)
now speak about the oil disgusted...you can't deny there's something funky going on in those arms (possibly delts too)
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what did you do to his calves disgusted???????????????????? 99% of the people of teh people on here have better calves than he showed in new york
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what did you do to his calves disgusted????????????????????
time to put oil in those babies..just like the arms
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what did you do to his calves disgusted???????????????????? 99% of the people of teh people on here have better calves than he showed in new york
them's some TRIUMPHANT calves.
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I doubt very much that disgusted can totally change King's physique in less than a year. But he has done an incredible job.
This is obviously a 12-18 month project because before disgusted was doing his prep, King looked totally fucked (i.e europa and new york last year)
So this is a vast improvement from before.
Good job disgusted .
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Interesting in those photos to compare the biceps and triceps. The biceps is migrating to the elbow on the left arm but receding to the shoulder on the same triceps. Something interesting occurring there. He might be the first man to change the shape of his biceps.
His new sponsor is ExxonMobil. ;D
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I doubt very much that disgusted can totally change King's physique in less than a year. But he has done an incredible job.
This is obviously a 12-18 month project because before disgusted was doing his prep, King looked totally fucked (i.e europa and new york last year)
So this is a vast improvement from before.
Good job disgusted .
Thanks bro, you are correct. We planned on doing just that, but never had the chance. Not only did I have to contend with only having 13 weeks after 4 months off, but I had to bring his waist down too. I never claimed like some people think that I was bringing him in bigger. King is absolutley thrilled at how he looked under the circumstances. People are missing the point or they just don't like to admit being wrong, but I brought King in looking better than he did in 2001 and with a small waist. And they said it couldn't be done. ;D
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One thing I agree with Disgusted about is the way the rags use their photos to justify someone's placing. King looked far better than he appears in most photos posted on MD and Flex. Likewise, Branch was not that impressive standing relaxed or in the majority of the poses, but most of the posted photos of him are hitting his muscularity shots or him in full, blood-pressure bursting shots. As Disgusted demonstrated, the best photos of King from this show are nowhere to be found on MD and Flex.
King got rid of his gut, trimmed down his obliques, beat most guys in poses from the rear, and brought a much better package to the stage than he has in recent years. Most importantly, he brought a quiet humility to the stage that showed that he has matured.
While neither King nor Disgusted can do much about the bicep factor, I think coming in 5% sharper with shredded glutes could be the difference between a Mr. O qualification and 6th place.
Special "Observer" Ed
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but I brought King in looking better than he did in 2001 and with a small waist. And they said it couldn't be done. ;D
fauck you need a new eye doctor jimmy crack corn but I don't care; do you really think he looked better in nyc than he does here?
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Magnum... I say again I applaud you but don't act like a "guru" I know a lot of guys on Promuscle think your some kind of God or something, but King has known for 3 years what he needs to do. I personally think "guru's" are just Pharmacuetical Salespeople anyways.... Like stated above you cannot "fix" his structual flaws it's not possible...
I'm no Guru or a Pharmacuetical Salesrep but..................I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once. ;)
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fauck you need a new eye doctor jimmy crack corn but I don't care; do you really think he looked better in nyc than he does here?
And you were the one who used to complain about me posting hotel pics. ::) ;D Sorry I don't have any to compare this time. Give it up bro you are making yourself look desparate. :-[
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fauck you need a new eye doctor jimmy crack corn but I don't care; do you really think he looked better in nyc than he does here?
Thats a damn good shot of King
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In the past King looked like a pile of shit, now he still looks like a pile of shot, just with less flies
Disgusted what is -50 plus 25...still a negative number, just less so
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And you were the once who used to complain about me posting hotel pics. ::) ;D Sorry I don't have any to compare this time. Give it up bro you are making yourself look desparate. :-[
admit he looks nothing like he did in 2001...that pic proves it...how do you answer the valdez spread in his arms? know you're not responsible for it but don't be like chickerillo and not admit the obvious he looked far better in 2001 one than he does now THAT'S A FACT
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admit he looks nothing like he did in 2001...that pic proves it...how do you answer the valdez spread in his arms? know you're not responsible for it but don't be like chickerillo and not admit the obvious he looked far better in 2001 one than he does now THAT'S A FACT
You are obviously taking this way too serious. ;D Someone is going to need a valium to go beddy byes tonight. Hahahahahaha
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Disgusted you are King's nutritionist? If so I didn't know and he really did look on point in NY.
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You are obviously taking this way too serious. ;D Someone is going to need a valium to go beddy byes tonight. Hahahahahaha
;D
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Disgusted you are King's nutritionist? If so I didn't know and he really did look on point in NY.
Yes and thanks. You know how guys here like to say all drugs? This was all diet. ;D
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;D
F*ck calves, you can count on 1 hand how many IFBB pros actually have an exceptional pair. 2 hands for all of IFBB bb history
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He looked better than he has the last few years, but not as good as in 2001.
Disgusted keeps on harping how small his waist is ??? Compared to what? Maybe compared to Paco...but he must sport one of the bigger waistlines in that lineup! His obliques hang over ridiculously!
Stavios mentioned his biggest problem is posing - I disagree. His biggest problem is his structure which is a bitch to change.
Props to King for improving his conditioning over showings the last few years. But arms, calves, legs are weak points (for a pro).
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You are obviously taking this way too serious. ;D Someone is going to need a valium to go beddy byes tonight. Hahahahahaha
LOL
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Disgusted, please get King a pedicure.
hahaha classic
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Epic dodging of the obvious synthol use
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brutal
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Disgusted, please get King a pedicure.
And I thought I scutinized King a lot in pics. ::) Dude has a foot fetish for King Kamali. GROSS
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As an objective viewer, with no opinion on King either way (yes it's possible), I will say he did look very good @NY but those biceps need to be explained.....
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Thanks getfast for the pics! Nice comparison.
Digusted, I'm gonna call em like I see em...
King has WORSE legs than he did in 2001 and his arms are SMALLER.
Let's face the facts here:
You want to compare 2001 to 2007???????? What damn ROCK HAVE YOU BEEN HIDING UNDER? This douche-bag has been running his mouth for years and has contracts through a couple major supplement companies (i.e. RIP OFF ARTISTS). Disgusted, his arms are WORSE, mainly due to Synthol. His QUADS (mainly) are a step below the 2001 pics posted.
If you want to look at the REST OF HIS BODY, his chest, shoulders and back are BEHIND his 2001 conditioning that you, as a DUMBASS, rave about. In SIX YEARS this clown looks the same or WORSE in his upper-body. His lower-body is the same, also, with only a few weak pictures from YOU to back him up.
In short:
1. Kamali looks like SHIT overall and should retire
2. You defending his physique on here says a lot about you as a trainer/nutritionist/person.
3. You embracing Synthol use tells EVERYONE what they need to know regarding your training "business"....
4. A few pics 10 feel from the stage, morphed for a message board, can't hide the fact that Kamali looks like SHIT.
Hope this helps, Disgusted.
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Did King inject something into his biceps for the 2007 New York pro?
YES or NO?
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technically no. disgusted did the injections so king did not inject anything by himself.
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fauck you need a new eye doctor jimmy crack corn but I don't care; do you really think he looked better in nyc than he does here?
That's the kamali I remember. Disgusted you did a damn good job getting him in shape, amazing actually. Just tell him to get his IT bands worked on so his outer quads can actually contract and look decent and work his calves/arms harder and he'll be back onstage at the olympia.
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That's the kamali I remember. Disgusted you did a damn good job getting him in shape, amazing actually. Just tell him to get his IT bands worked on so his outer quads can actually contract and look decent and work his calves/arms harder and he'll be back onstage at the olympia.
ok "methyl mike" I'm sure he'll get right on that.
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Digusted, I'm gonna call em like I see em...
Let's face the facts here:
Hope this helps, Disgusted.
Just because you "call em like you see em" ::) doesn't mean you're right. You need to go to the dictionary and find out what the difference between a fact and an opinion is. Hope this helps! ::) Whata fucktard. ;D
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so what about the biceps? Injected with synthol or not?
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so what about the biceps? Injected with synthol or not?
Do you guys really think Disgusted is gonna tell you if King injected something???? He might not even know... ;) The one that has the answer for sure is The King......but don't expect he'll tell you anything anytime soon... ;D ;D
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By disgusted avoiding the question so blatantly, he is giving all the confirmation necessary that King used synthol. I dont think that is even a question anymore. Oh and BTW, if you guys cant see it, it's also in his tri's pretty heavily-
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No - no synthol in his arms. Get real already. Point blank, he looked better than he did last year, and that is that. Does he look better than he did in 2001. No, he does not. But he did improve over last year.
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No - no synthol in his arms. Get real already. Point blank, he looked better than he did last year, and that is that. Does he look better than he did in 2001. No, he does not. But he did improve over last year.
Seriously Ron? I thought you were a pretty straight up guy.. Why play King's game for him?
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No - no synthol in his arms.
agree. it's just nolotil.
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No - no synthol
no no = yes? ;D
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No - no synthol in his arms. Get real already. Point blank, he looked better than he did last year, and that is that. Does he look better than he did in 2001. No, he does not. But he did improve over last year.
I agree he looked better than last year, however those arms are suspect and Disgusted is taking credit for Kings condition, so we're trying to get him to dispell any doubts about Kings arms. One way or the other. He seems to respond to all other inquiries, but won't touch the synthol/arms issue. Why do you think his arms look different Ron? Very similar to Milos' arms when he went overboard, don't you think?
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No - no synthol in his arms. Get real already. Point blank, he looked better than he did last year, and that is that. Does he look better than he did in 2001. No, he does not. But he did improve over last year.
I totally disagree with you on this one Ron. He does look better and his waist is NOT an issue like you said it would be.
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I totally disagree with you on this one Ron. He does look better and his waist is NOT an issue like you said it would be.
see above post(s) and please answer, you're losing credibility by avoiding direct questions.
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No - no synthol in his arms. Get real already. Point blank, he looked better than he did last year, and that is that. Does he look better than he did in 2001. No, he does not. But he did improve over last year.
I totally disagree with you on this one Ron. He does look better and his waist is NOT an issue like you said it would be.
;D
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By no means am I knocking your work, Jim. I just think that you're not seeing the picture clearly...
No offence taken. OK, from the front relaxed and the side chest we can make a comaprison with the other pics I have posted, but the other shots are very close up and we have none to go by. Also, you know as well as anyone that the lighting for the Ironman have always been one of if not the best ever. So, let's just compare apples to apples. So when you say I am not seeing the picture clearly.... ;D You're right. ;)
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;D
;D Good one.
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Disgusted, by your silence on the subject, are we to assume you know of the synthol use and are avoiding it to avoid making yourself look like a fool?
Could it be that you failed to bring Kings arms up to par and resorted to injecting synthol into the biceps and triceps?
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Just another comment Sean. King was way down in size when we started as I have stated. My goals were to bring his waist down and bring him in with great conditioning. Now, if I would have had a year to work with him things would most certainly be different.
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Disgusted, by your silence on the subject, are we to assume you know of the synthol use and are avoiding it to avoid making yourself look like a fool?
Could it be that you failed to bring Kings arms up to par and resorted to injecting synthol into the biceps and triceps?
Me not answering you is bugging the Hell out you you isn't it? ;D
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Me not answering you is bugging the Hell out you you isn't it? ;D
yes :(
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Like I said, I wasn't taking jabs or knocking you whatsoever, just expressing my opinion. I also feel that last year he was his biggest, and had he been dried out completely, he might have been close to if not his all time best. The show I'm referring to is the Europa. Well, let me say the Europa prejudging before he went and ate the steakhouse that we went to out of business. ;D
I know and I love a good debate so by all means keep it comin. I think that King was huge at the Europa "compared to the NY Pro" and looked great in certain ways, but he still was not big enough or dry and ripped enough to win that show.
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(http://i3.tinypic.com/4tgj80n.jpg)
2001 on left, 2007 on right
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King was leaner when Joe trained him? Doesn't look like it? We can argue the water thing all night, but King had no problem drying out with me. I have no idea what he did for the other two shows. You need to go back and look at the photos I posted. Here are two for comparison. Now, he looks leaner to me at the NY Pro than the Ironman size aside. I wonder what he would have looked like given the same lighting as the Ironman?
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Again, in no way am I knocking your work because you did a great job.
Thanks again. Do you have any pics from last years NY Pro?
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If you compare NY Pro pics from this year to last year, you will see far more detail in last year's pics, as he was leaner and drier. Granted, his waist was wide as all outside in '06, which by his own admission was because he hadn't changed his training up one bit. As for the Europa, his trainer at that time wanted to "complete" the drying out process, but King was adamant about not going any further in fear of flattening out (which would not have happened).
I'm not sure what you mean by Kings training affecting his waist? Diet is what I used to correct the waist issue. Why in your opinion was his waist still big if he was so lean?
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bodybuilders sure look like crap!
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I'm not sure what you mean by Kings training affecting his waist? Diet is what I used to correct the waist issue. Why in your opinion was his waist still big if he was so lean?
His powerlifting style of training thickened up his midsection.
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If you compare NY Pro pics from this year to last year, you will see far more detail in last year's pics, as he was leaner and drier.
By all means put more pics up Sean this is just one. Leaner, drier and far more detail? in 2006?
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His gut looks better. Will be interesting to see how much he improves over the next 6 to 12 months and if he can keep the gut down.
Disgusted, can you post his pre comp diet?
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His gut looks better. Will be interesting to see how much he improves over the next 6 to 12 months and if he can keep the gut down.
Disgusted, can you post his pre comp diet?
Wouldn't do you any good as I had to do things with him that I would not normally do. Ideally I would like a full year to work with King and I always like to start a comp diet at 16 weeks out. King would have had 20 pounds more muscle with an off season and leaner, but I did not have enough time to get him as lean as I would have liked for this show. I can tell you that I favor a very low carb diet with carb meals every week or so. Been doing this for years and it has worked for everyone. There is more than one way to get lean. Some guys favor a high carb and that's OK. As long as it works to get you lean.
The main problem these guys have is the dry out. I do not use diuretics! Plus I do not carb up so there is no risk of spilling although I have found that on rare occasions some guys will be a bit too dry when they wake up in the morning this is easily remedied on the spot if it does happen to occur. So many guys have to go to bed wondering if they are going to spill or be flat when they wake up. This is not an issue the way I do things. Just remember that it is conditioing that will win a show. It is better to come in drier and a tad flat than to spill at all.
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Jim, I've been around for a long time, damn near longer than anyone who has posted in this thread and you can take my advise for what it's worth..........he has looked better in the NY Pro than any other show in a while, but if you truly want to bring him back to his 2001 condition, you need to unravel everything that Chad did to King to fuck him up..........and again, for what it's worth, you need to tell this guy to take a COMPLETE year off from anykind of gear unless he's to the point of HRT and then start over again by keeping him lean all year and to quit the powerlifting bullshit and start working on his symmetry..........dammit, go back to old school volume training and take another year to prepare for the next qualifier..........gear won't change genetics or structure but it will put on muscle in all the wrong places if you don't train right.
Jim, I respect you more than just about anyone else on this board so please don't take offence to what I said. King wants to play the size game and he just doesn't have the structure for it and by thinking that he did, he sacrificed his symmetry, he'll never win or place high on size, but he absolutly has the structure to place high on symmetry and conditioning, he has as much mass as he'll ever need, he needs two complete years off to get it right..........he's young enough!
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One more. ;D
His left elbow is looking very suspicious..
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I told you guys that I would bring King back to his old 2001 condition and I did and then some. Not bad for training 13 weeks after a 4 months layoff. So, for those of you who think that he looked better in Atlantic City or that he still has a big waist or that he should retire and whatever else blah blah blah stick this in your pipe and smoke it. ;D PS Anyone who has any 2001 pics bring them on!! I would love to see the comparisons.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165382;image)
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/Queen_wiki_avp.jpg)
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(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/Queen_wiki_avp.jpg)
LMAO
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hahaha ;D
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Disgusted, he is not dry, he is holding water, he does have a waist problem. You are losing credibility by the post, and if you don't legitimately reply to the posts asking about the oil in the arms, you will be regarded as another Adonis around here. So here is your chance.............come clean with the real truth about the fake looking arms................
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(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j51/realkarateblackbelt/Queen_wiki_avp.jpg)
Even the Queen Alien looked more ripped and symmetrical than Tamali
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His powerlifting style of training thickened up his midsection.
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Jim, I've been around for a long time, damn near longer than anyone who has posted in this thread and you can take my advise for what it's worth..........he has looked better in the NY Pro than any other show in a while, but if you truly want to bring him back to his 2001 condition, you need to unravel everything that Chad did to King to fuck him up..........and again, for what it's worth, you need to tell this guy to take a COMPLETE year off from anykind of gear unless he's to the point of HRT and then start over again by keeping him lean all year and to quit the powerlifting bullshit and start working on his symmetry..........dammit, go back to old school volume training and take another year to prepare for the next qualifier..........gear won't change genetics or structure but it will put on muscle in all the wrong places if you don't train right.
Jim, I respect you more than just about anyone else on this board so please don't take offence to what I said. King wants to play the size game and he just doesn't have the structure for it and by thinking that he did, he sacrificed his symmetry, he'll never win or place high on size, but he absolutly has the structure to place high on symmetry and conditioning, he has as much mass as he'll ever need, he needs two complete years off to get it right..........he's young enough!
Good "advices".
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Yes he looked much better then he has in the past few years condition wise but now he has even less calves/legs then before while clearly injecting something into his arms. If there is nothing in his arms then I would love to know your secret to changing muscle insertions and shape, you could makes millions with that kind of knowledge.
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Regarding the Synthol, Disgusted has given his endorsement to Syntherol on promuscle - so that's what it is most likely. It's funny how guys over there will swear it will look 100% natural "if you follow the proper protocol" yet I haven't seen one single example where it looked natural. King's left bicep looked damn near as bad as Milos' did when he tried to fix his arms with oil.
IMO King needs more fullness more than anything. Conditioning is important too but the smaller he gets the more obvious the genetic flaws. He has short muscle bellies in his arms, no sweep in his thighs etc.
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This thread is worthless without Kamali melting down in it.
Disgusted, get him to post here and speak on the synthol. ;D
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By disgusted avoiding the question so blatantly, he is giving all the confirmation necessary that King used synthol. I dont think that is even a question anymore. Oh and BTW, if you guys cant see it, it's also in his tri's pretty heavily-
You're a dumbass, disgusted. Period.
You can lay down threads on here claiming this or that, the bottom-damn-line is that Barbara's boy looked like SHIT at the NY Pro...with your help.
Period.
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This thread is worthless without Kamali melting down in it.
Disgusted, get him to post here and speak on the synthol. ;D
It's actually more funny when he saves it up and melts down in public and threatens to sue everyone! ;D
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mr intenseone made some really good points....i think King needs a Complete lay off, like i told many times...Pull off a 'levrone' and go off EVERYTHING for a year...dont train, dont eat too much, dont take drugs...just give his body a vacation...
and yes, change the training ...go oposite, try high volume, more definition exercises...King has good mass, his problem is his simetry...
He doesnt show a big 'gut' rigth now, but his waist is very big...for what it seems is forever....
the synthol (or whatever he did to his arms) are not looking good too...But on a good note, he really was better than any of his competitions for the last years, and as always he had the best tan...
Oh, and still has a good back and traps...But legs are laggin to much now too
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mr intenseone made some really good points....i think King needs a Complete lay off, like i told many times...Pull off a 'levrone' and go off EVERYTHING for a year...dont train, dont eat too much, dont take drugs...just give his body a vacation...
and yes, change the training ...go oposite, try high volume, more definition exercises...King has good mass, his problem is his simetry...
He doesnt show a big 'gut' rigth now, but his waist is very big...for what it seems is forever....
the synthol (or whatever he did to his arms) are not looking good too...But on a good note, he really was better than any of his competitions for the last years, and as always he had the best tan...
Oh, and still has a good back and traps...But legs are laggin to much now too
...... And I think you need to take an English class ;D
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Looks good in those pics.
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Disgusted,
what was your reaction when you saw Kamali's arms up on stage?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165409;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165410;image)
-Hedge
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I told you guys that I would bring King back to his old 2001 condition and I did and then some. Not bad for training 13 weeks after a 4 months layoff. So, for those of you who think that he looked better in Atlantic City or that he still has a big waist or that he should retire and whatever else blah blah blah stick this in your pipe and smoke it. ;D PS Anyone who has any 2001 pics bring them on!! I would love to see the comparisons.
after King's poor showing you are officially the biggest bullshitter on this site and that's the truth, even in the "better" shots that you posted King shows a total lack of arm size and total lack of any quad sweep whatsoever.
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Disgusted,
what was your reaction when you saw Kamali's arms up on stage?
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165409;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=148595.0;attach=165410;image)
-Hedge
Synthol?
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...... And I think you need to take an English class ;D
sorry, im still a little drunk from yesterday and my english is even worse than usual today.... ;)
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sorry, im still a little drunk from yesterday and my english is even worse than usual today.... ;)
Same here, my head hurts a little and I have almost no appetite but luckily my English is still working. ;D
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I think the only people who ever will say the phrase 'King's Triumphant return" are those who work at the local Dennys..... they will be happy for sure :-*
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Same here, my head hurts a little and I have almost no appetite but luckily my English is still working. ;D
My English wasn't working yesterday, so I had to take it to the shop to be repaired.
The fucckers gave me this piece of shit Spanish as a rental! >:(
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My English wasn't working yesterday, so I had to take it to the shop to be repaired.
The fucckers gave me this piece of shit Spanish as a rental! >:(
HAHAHAHA Atleast you didn't have to use Spanglish otherwise landscapers would be trying to hire you...
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Where was TEAM KAMALI with their "Back with a vengence" T-Shirts this year.
He should have made some new one for 2007....."KING KAMALI...BACK WITH AN OIL CHANGE"
Nice full and ROUND triceps....so brutally obvious.
A tricep should look like a HORSESHOE not a small balloon!!!!!
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He probably didn't thought we would see it.
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mr intenseone made some really good points....i think King needs a Complete lay off, like i told many times...Pull off a 'levrone' and go off EVERYTHING for a year...dont train, dont eat too much, dont take drugs...just give his body a vacation...
and yes, change the training ...go oposite, try high volume, more definition exercises...King has good mass, his problem is his simetry...
He doesnt show a big 'gut' rigth now, but his waist is very big...for what it seems is forever....
the synthol (or whatever he did to his arms) are not looking good too...But on a good note, he really was better than any of his competitions for the last years, and as always he had the best tan...
Oh, and still has a good back and traps...But legs are laggin to much now too
I didn't say not train, he needs to train, just not the powerlifting BS!
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You're a dumbass, disgusted. Period.
You can lay down threads on here claiming this or that, the bottom-damn-line is that Barbara's boy looked like SHIT at the NY Pro...with your help.
Period.
You sound like such an angry little boy. ;) Time for little boy boo boo lip to get in the corner. :'( ps, you have gyno. ;D
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You sound like such an angry little boy. ;) Time for little boy boo boo lip to get in the corner. :'( ps, you have gyno. ;D
HAHAHAAH classic!! ;D ;D
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(http://i3.tinypic.com/4tgj80n.jpg)
2001 on left, 2007 on right
Guy use to have quite wide back in those days, but now? Where it have gone? Love that color, it make him look just like someone has use some blowtorch to him...Not a bad idea, after all...
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Disgusted is totally delusional saying KK looked as good as he looked in 2001 when he made a promising pro debut at the IronMan followed by the Arnold Classic 2 weeks later. The muscle fullness, detail, crispness, young & healthy & vibrant look to Kamali's 2001 muscles are gone.... gone forever. His body is beat up and it is over for him.
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Jim, I've been around for a long time, damn near longer than anyone who has posted in this thread and you can take my advise for what it's worth..........he has looked better in the NY Pro than any other show in a while, but if you truly want to bring him back to his 2001 condition, you need to unravel everything that Chad did to King to fuck him up..........and again, for what it's worth, you need to tell this guy to take a COMPLETE year off from anykind of gear unless he's to the point of HRT and then start over again by keeping him lean all year and to quit the powerlifting bullshit and start working on his symmetry..........dammit, go back to old school volume training and take another year to prepare for the next qualifier..........gear won't change genetics or structure but it will put on muscle in all the wrong places if you don't train right.
Jim, I respect you more than just about anyone else on this board so please don't take offence to what I said. King wants to play the size game and he just doesn't have the structure for it and by thinking that he did, he sacrificed his symmetry, he'll never win or place high on size, but he absolutly has the structure to place high on symmetry and conditioning, he has as much mass as he'll ever need, he needs two complete years off to get it right..........he's young enough!
Joe, I absolutley agree with you. Reread my first post. King had NO intentions of competing this early. The plan was to wait a whole year and go into the Montreal again. King was certainly down in size since he had not lifted in 4 months. He was not eating much and although he was not fat he had little in the way of muscle tone. Certainly the worst case scenario I had to deal with. The only realistic goals that could possibley be reached was to bring him in as ripped as possible and hopefully get rid of the waist. I NEVER expected him to get any bigger while dieting down for this show although he did gain back some size that he already had to begin with. There was just no way to cram 6 months of off season mass building into 13 weeks of contest prep. :'(
You also have to keep in mind that all the other photos on here are of King when he has had at least a solid year of prep work for a show. King trained straight for over a year for the NY Pro in 2006 an the Europa. I would feel confident in saying that no one else would have taken on King to train him given the circumstances that I had to deal with. Neither King nor I made any type of claims leading up to the show cause to be honest I was doubting whether I could get him into shape in time. I also agree with you regarding King playing the size game. At the same time there is plenty of room for him to grow and without him going back to such a blocky appearance.
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Kamali should have never talk bad about Dorian's biceps. Obviously, Kamali's biceps are substandard. I don't care what improvements he still plans on making, this past weekend showed that he aint gonna get any gifts from the judges anytime soon
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Joe, I absolutley agree with you. Reread my first post. King had NO intentions of competing this early. The plan was to wait a whole year and go into the Montreal again. King was certainly down in size since he had not lifted in 4 months. He was not eating much and although he was not fat he had little in the way of muscle tone. Certainly the worst case scenario I had to deal with. The only realistic goals that could possibley be reached was to bring him in as ripped as possible and hopefully get rid of the waist. I NEVER expected him to get any bigger while dieting down for this show although he did gain back some size that he already had to begin with. There was just no way to cram 6 months of off season mass building into 13 weeks of contest prep. :'(
You also have to keep in mind that all the other photos on here are of King when he has had at least a solid year of prep work for a show. King trained straight for over a year for the NY Pro in 2006 an the Europa. I would feel confident in saying that no one else would have taken on King to train him given the circumstances that I had to deal with. Neither King nor I made any type of claims leading up to the show cause to be honest I was doubting whether I could get him into shape in time. I also agree with you regarding King playing the size game. At the same time there is plenty of room for him to grow and without him going back to such a blocky appearance.
dude... kamali got it right in spring 2001... since then it is nothing but excuses... it was a one time hit for him and ever since then its a miss... he does not have the genetics to look like a real player. he maxed out in '01 and his genetics dont allow him to hold on to such a quality performance year after year.
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Damn even at 290 his arms are barely 15 inches
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From his website: ;D
13 weeks out from the New York Pro @ 290 pounds
(http://www.kinkily.com/whatsnew/king0207.jog)
Thanks Sean. >:( ;D King was 283 in that pic and full of water. Shame on King for exaggerating. Legs were still lagging behind. To be honest Sean if his waist wasn't so big at that time he could have come in about 8 to 10 pounds heavier, but I chose to bring him in lighter so as to have a smaller waist. Bringing him in with a big waist at the NY Pro and Europa certainly didn't get him looked at anymore than this year.
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Disgusted,
Maybe next time you should reconsider being the captain of the Titanic after it hits the iceberg. If ya know what I mean. You can lead a horse to water but weather or not Beserk Fury drinks is not in your hands.
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You're right, though, he did get 6th last year at the NY Pro as opposed to 9th. I can almost assure he would've been 5th if he hadn't started knocking all the little guys around that day. :D
And 11th at the Europa when he was even bigger. ;)
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i dont know why people are giving king so much shit ... everyone uses synthol in pro bb
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/blflammia/kingk.gif)
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And 11th at the Europa when he was even bigger. ;)
please just say "Joe is the best" and then we can be rid of this mayhem troll once again. Thank you in advance.
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That was his choice not to dry out. ;)
Whatever.
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Tamali's arms started looking fishy while he was working w Joe . . .
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So what if Kamali finally matched his 2001 condition....the rest of the lineup has long since surpassed that condition. He took 4th at the Arnold with that condition and this time around he took 9th at a lesser show.
(long, drawn out, sarcastic slow clapping)
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It seems to me that while his waist might have been tighter than last year, his calves are obnoxiously small, his arms are small & lumpy, his quad sweep is nonexistant and his ever-growing obliques are visible even from the back!
So was Palumboism cured or not!?
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Imo King should not compete for a min of a yr.... he should have waited till sept like disgusted had suggested. He needs a much nedded offseason to build some lacking mass. As far as conditioning, i think its the best hes looked in quite some time. And YES! i would say he has come along way since Palumbosim. now its training thats gonna make him better if he wants to remain a force in the game. New faces are popping up every month and competition is getting tougher and tougher.
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It seems to me that while his waist might have been tighter than last year, his calves are obnoxiously small, his arms are small & lumpy, his quad sweep is nonexistant and his ever-growing obliques are visible even from the back!
So was Palumboism cured or not!?
Kamali looks better when he's heavier and more filled out.....his contest physique just flatout sucks. He should stick to personal training and selling used undies to Bluto.
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So what if Kamali finally matched his 2001 condition....the rest of the lineup has long since surpassed that condition. He took 4th at the Arnold with that condition and this time around he took 9th at a lesser show.
I agree, that is why he and I are totally happy with his condition given the amount of time we had. I said the same thing to a friend of mine. King's 2001 conition was awesome, but the mass monsters are what the judges are looking for so I doubt he would have placed any higher regardless wether he looked better in 2001 or not. It would have been a big mistake to come in bigger with a huge gut and subpar conditioning.
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I agree, that is why he and I are totally happy with his condition given the amount of time we had. I said the same thing to a friend of mine. King's 2001 conition was awesome, but the mass monsters are what the judges are looking for so I doubt he would have placed any higher regardless wether he looked better in 2001 or not. It would have been a big mistake to come in bigger with a huge gut and subpar conditioning.
The difference in muscle shape and fullness between a fully depleted contest ready Kamali and a "few weeks out" Kamali is night and day. Honestly, would coming in a bit heavier, fuller and not quite as sharp really be a bad move?
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WTF...Kamali isn't even worth the time we're spending posting on this thread. Who likes this guy? He's an average guy with an average physique. He used to look o.k., but this is a "what have you done for me lately" industry. Now his proportions are awful. I think the best he ever looked was here:
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/002.jpg)
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The difference in muscle shape and fullness between a fully depleted contest ready Kamali and a "few weeks out" Kamali is night and day. Honestly, would coming in a bit heavier, fuller and not quite as sharp really be a bad move?
No, but in this case at this show and with what I had to work with yes! Ten pounds heavier, but with a bigger gut would not be any better. Remember, weighing more does not mean that you are actually bigger. King will probabley weigh about 25 pounds heavier a few weeks from now, but that does not mean it is muscle. Long term real muscle growth takes time. We were barley into a month of offseason mass building when he had to enter this show.
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WTF...Kamali isn't even worth the time we're spending posting on this thread. Who likes this guy? He's an average guy with an average physique. He used to look o.k., but this is a "what have you done for me lately" industry. Now his proportions are awful. I think the best he ever looked was here:
Clear signs of synthol in his chest. :o ;D
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7 PAGES of this...............botto m line is "Disgusted" did a great fucking job with king!
(i would hire him for my prep anyday)
King is looking better and better since working with Disgusted
maybe don't let him blow up this off-season
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7 PAGES of this...............botto m line is "Disgusted" did a great fucking job with king!
(i would hire him for my prep anyday)
King is looking better and better since working with Disgusted
maybe don't let him blow up this off-season
Thanks Mike. Those days are gone, I hope. ;D
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One more. ;D
Worst....calves....ever.
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what it with these guys that lose muscle, mass, thigh-sweep, get wider waists?? is it drug abuse or what?
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after King's poor showing you are officially the biggest bullshitter on this site and that's the truth, even in the "better" shots that you posted King shows a total lack of arm size and total lack of any quad sweep whatsoever.
wow we actually agree on something never thought I'd say that.
Disgusted is making a fool out of himself by trying to convince us KK is in better shape than 2001.
He's even pretending not to know what MALONEY meant when he mentioned the heavy training, as he mentioned on here (disgusted) that part of his plan to change kk was to increase his volume and reps and lower the weights.
KK needs to lose 20-25 lbs offa that waist and like mr intenseone said he's gonna have to shed a lot of weight unfortunately he can't do that his ego is too small.
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King is done.
Even if he could somehow bring back this amazing 2001 physique everyone talks about he's still looking at 5th or 6th place at most 2nd tier shows.
Too many new guys have come along and are already better than King will ever be.
He will always be remembered as a clown who could never back up his big mouth.
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If anything, Kamali has regressed since 2001. His quads, calves and arms are smaller, his waist, midsection and face have all been messed up by GH..
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wow we actually agree on something never thought I'd say that.
Disgusted is making a fool out of himself by trying to convince us KK is in better shape than 2001.
He's even pretending not to know what MALONEY meant when he mentioned the heavy training, as he mentioned on here (disgusted) that part of his plan to change kk was to increase his volume and reps and lower the weights.
KK needs to lose 20-25 lbs offa that waist and like mr intenseone said he's gonna have to shed a lot of weight unfortunately he can't do that his ego is too small.
Hi Joe ;)
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I agree that it would certainly do good if he took a year OFF everything
but you guys have to keep in mind that he would lose his sponsors if he does that
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Kamali should just relax and retire. Why put yourself thru this??? you had your day and now its gone.
....Announce retirement without excuses so its classy. Admit the sport has gone to a new level and wish the new guys luck. 8)
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Kamali should just relax and retire. Why put yourself thru this??? you had your day and now its gone.
....Announce retirement without excuses so its classy. Admit the sport has gone to a new level and wish the new guys luck. 8)
if he likes to compete, why stop ?
hell I compete, I know I'll never be a top national competitor but I still do it cause I love it
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King is 5'9 and 1/2.
I think he did look good at the show...I think a Mr. Olympia qualification is quite possible at some point in the future. When all is said and done he is still #29 in the world, which is pretty respectable when you think about it.
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Hi Joe ;)
LOL........it's not me, I'm not smart enough to pull off a gimmik :D!!
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since when is 9th place a triumph?
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any confirmation/denial to the synthol accusations yet?
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LOL........it's not me, I'm not smart enough to pull off a gimmik :D!!
NO bro, I meant Joe McNeil. Sorry I didn't clarify. :P
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NO bro, I meant Joe McNeil. Sorry I didn't clarify. :P
Dexter said the reason Kamali looked like shit when he trained with Joe was because he didnt listen to Joe and ate everyone and everything. Can enlighten us on this topic Disgusted?
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Jim knows his stuff and the greatest testament to this was what he did with King from the Europa to the Montreal show. I wouldn't call the NY PRO a "triumphant return" but he did what he could, that's clear.
What's next on the King Nationwide Tour?
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Jim knows his stuff and the greatest testament to this was what he did with King from the Europa to the Montreal show. I wouldn't call the NY PRO a "triumphant return" but he did what he could, that's clear.
What's next on the King Nationwide Tour?
Thanks bro, yep did what I could. King suffered for this one for sure. Don't know what is next to be honest. King is in toronto at a photshoot till Thurs. so maybe will know soon. :)
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Dexter said the reason Kamali looked like shit when he trained with Joe was because he didnt listen to Joe and ate everyone and everything. Can enlighten us on this topic Disgusted?
So Dexter really said this? Not calling you a liar bro but I could call Dexter and find out, but why don't you be a little more specific as to how you know he said this.
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So finishing 9th in a show you finished 6th in last year is a triumphant return?
Must be that new math everyone's always talking about.
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So finishing 9th in a show you finished 6th in last year is a triumphant return?
Must be that new math everyone's always talking about.
Last year he deserved 17th and got 6th. This year he deserved 11th and got 9th. So in his mind, thats an improvment.
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Kamali is awesome, just needs to work on his arms and he will be my olympia material
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Last year he deserved 17th and got 6th. This year he deserved 11th and got 9th. So in his mind, thats an improvment.
Flawless logic as usual. ;D PS I'll take 2 tubes of Safety Fat. You give discounts on cases? :P
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I'll take 2 tubes of Safety Fat. You give discounts on cases? :P
I'm not sure... I'll have to check with my Australian supplier!
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I'm not sure... I'll have to check with my Australian supplier!
You know Stallone? ;D
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Hey Disgusted,
Just thought I would say I think King looked better this year than he has in a while. Looks like you did a fine job for the amount of time you had. If your GOAL was to get him ripped, then IT WORKED. Now as far as size goes, and structure/genetics, that was out of your hands for this show.
I do have a question though. Were you also the person who handled King's diet?
And did you also train John Simone?
Thanks bro and yes to both. Here's a pic of John the night before the show.
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Disgusted...
Dexter did indeed say that about King...it was in a recent issue of Muscular Development (2-3 months ago...I will dig around and see if I can tell you the exact issue).... anyway...it was an interview with dexter that flex wheeler was giving....Flex asked Dex why Joe wasnt able to fix king....dex said that King wouldnt listen to joe...wouldnt stick to his diet/ate a ton of junk food...etc...
M!
P.S. you really need to adress the synthol issue allready...
"I slept with faith, and found her to be a rotten corpse upon awakening. I drank and danced all night with doubt, and found her a virgin in the morning."
A-Crowley
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These are the facts...
King has torn his left biceps and possibly his left tricep
King injected "something" into his arms for both this show and the last one before that.
King needs to learn how to do the mandatories from scratch again.
King needs to actually practice holding his abs in tight for an entire show same as dexter does.
King needs a very specific program of only certain exercises to help his poor structure.
Disgusted knows his shit but it's hard to turn around what he has to work with here.
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Disgusted...
Dexter did indeed say that about King...it was in a recent issue of Muscular Development (2-3 months ago...I will dig around and see if I can tell you the exact issue).... anyway...it was an interview with dexter that flex wheeler was giving....Flex asked Dex why Joe wasnt able to fix king....dex said that King wouldnt listen to joe...wouldnt stick to his diet/ate a ton of junk food...etc...
M!
P.S. you really need to adress the synthol issue allready...
"I slept with faith, and found her to be a rotten corpse upon awakening. I drank and danced all night with doubt, and found her a virgin in the morning."
A-Crowley
Thanks for letting me know where you heard that. You need to understand something, I don't "need" to address anything. I am not here to impress anyone nor do I care about being known as Guru or whatever. I know what I am capable of and I am good at what I do, not bragging just fact. This board is the class clown of all the muscle boards and it's fun to participate and I get a kick out of all the shit talk. I don't take this place too serious at all. Was that a meltdown. ??? :-[
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These are the facts...
King has torn his left biceps and possibly his left tricep
King injected "something" into his arms for both this show and the last one before that.
King needs to learn how to do the mandatories from scratch again.
King needs to actually practice holding his abs in tight for an entire show same as dexter does.
King needs a very specific program of only certain exercises to help his poor structure.
Disgusted knows his shit but it's hard to turn around what he has to work with here.
Um just one correction. Dexter does not always hold his gut in. ;D
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Hmm...ok then...well perhaps you can make some more generalized comments.
What is your opinion of synthol/esciline/site injections etc... in bodybuilding.
A nessacary evil?
An art that few have been able to manage?
No place whatsoever?
Most curious.
M!
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Um just one correction. Dexter does not always hold his gut in. ;D
yeah but he does it better than king does plain and simple...
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Hmm...ok then...well perhaps you can make some more generalized comments.
What is your opinion of synthol/esciline/site injections etc... in bodybuilding.
A nessacary evil?
An art that few have been able to manage?
No place whatsoever?
Most curious.
M!
Fars I know esiclene (formabolone) is not being made anymore. Everyone does site injections, but not necessarily for site "enhancement". Sometimes they turn out bad as in the swell up and or bruise. Nature of the game bro. Injecting for site growth is not really all that much of an art, but I can tell you this. If I was to have anyone do it you would not be able to tell. ;D
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Fars I know esiclene (formabolone) is not being made anymore. Everyone does site injections, but not necessarily for site "enhancement". Sometimes they turn out bad as in the swell up and or bruise. Nature of the game bro. Injecting for site growth is not really all that much of an art, but I can tell you this. If I was to have anyone do it you would not be able to tell. ;D
so now we know, thanks.
Were you pissed when you found out he did it?
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Well...I do need to thank you for at least responding to the question...
However that being said...I must admit that you dissipoint me....
Clearly you dont have any real issue with using oil to attempt to mask a deficenciy...
Perhaps this post is merely a crusade for an (empty) cause...perhaps it is a meltdown...maybe both.. but I would like to think that there are other people in the bodybuilding community that are willing to take a zero tolerance policy on synthol use.... in fact I will go as far as to say that anyone that has engaged in such activity is a lazy peice of crap! Period!
At least with Steroids/GH/Insulin you are agumenting functions that are allready taking place...
Synthol on the other hand....whats next...implants? Why bother training at all?! Weak calves...Screw it! Just inject some oil....
Anyone caught doing this nonsense should be blacklisted....granted there isnt much that we, (the fans), can do...but if we were to start somewhere...and perhaps refuse to take the people that advocate this behaviour seriously (I.E. the palumbo's the disgusted's the El Sonbatys..) then we can take a small step in helping to clean this up...
M!
"When the populace becomes involved in thinking...All is lost!"
Voltaire
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I must admit that you dissipoint me....
I tawey. :'(
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I'm not sure... I'll have to check with my Australian supplier!
I am sure our Austrailian friend has more than enough in stock ;)
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Last year he deserved 17th and got 6th. This year he deserved 11th and got 9th. So in his mind, thats an improvment.
Someone told me your wife is the same nationality as King. If that is so, it would make sense why you hate on him so much. Before I go further, is that information accurate though?
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If I was to have anyone do it you would not be able to tell. ;D
So what you are saying is: Kamali did this on his own. OK, I can live with that, even though it is a weak response. I and a lot of others, believe that you need to reassess your abilities as contest prep boy, maybe take some classes...something.
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Disgusted, does King consider his appearance 'a triumphant return'? Just curious...
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Trust me, that's horse shit.
yes it's his way of avoiding the questions.
So he dried king out big deal with out drugs he says.
What's a guru do?
Change the drug cycle.
change the diet
change the training
big deal didn't change the arms or waist or brtual loss of fullness and size in his arms delts and chest he had in 2001 vs 2007
ain't gonna help kk till he drops that tractor tire of tissue he has around his waist from all the years of bulking he needs to drop some serious tissue ALL over.
this has been going on for years and KK's arms have regressed and only real gains in size are in the gut arms are smaller chest and shoulders as well calves ain't don nothing either....it's foolish to sit here and post pics like you transformed kk into 2001 form when he is very far off structure wise, ripped conditioned yea ok but he looked like a stove top from the neck down to the waist.
you ain't gonna change that in 2 months or 2 years till king takes off at least 20-30 lbs, but his ego can't take it nor can yours to admit he ain't nothing special when you claimed to have put him in his best form ever. them days are long gone unless he sheds the waist thorugh massive tissue loss and slowly comes up.
hope this helps i'd be happy to email you and king a plan for doing this.
lastly if you don't wear some form of corrective vision I think you should get checked now.
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I'm no Guru or a Pharmacuetical Salesrep but..................I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express once. ;)
Disgusted, what did 9th place pay in the NY Pro?
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Disgusted, what did 9th place pay in the NY Pro?
-$15,000...
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Kamali didn't pay anything for his prep fee.
disgusted got 10 bottles of Cell tech for his fee to prep Kamali.
Good deal huh?
Isn't that like 10 gold nuggests, chicken that is. ;D
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hope this helps i'd be happy to email you and king a plan for doing this.
Oh, so now YOU think you have the cure for Palumboism? ::)
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So you guys dont agree that Kamali looked the best he's ever looked?
I believe him ;D
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yes it's his way of avoiding the questions.
So he dried king out big deal with out drugs he says.
What's a guru do?
Change the drug cycle.
change the diet
change the training
big deal didn't change the arms or waist or brtual loss of fullness and size in his arms delts and chest he had in 2001 vs 2007
ain't gonna help kk till he drops that tractor tire of tissue he has around his waist from all the years of bulking he needs to drop some serious tissue ALL over.
this has been going on for years and KK's arms have regressed and only real gains in size are in the gut arms are smaller chest and shoulders as well calves ain't don nothing either....it's foolish to sit here and post pics like you transformed kk into 2001 form when he is very far off structure wise, ripped conditioned yea ok but he looked like a stove top from the neck down to the waist.
you ain't gonna change that in 2 months or 2 years till king takes off at least 20-30 lbs, but his ego can't take it nor can yours to admit he ain't nothing special when you claimed to have put him in his best form ever. them days are long gone unless he sheds the waist thorugh massive tissue loss and slowly comes up.
hope this helps i'd be happy to email you and king a plan for doing this.
lastly if you don't wear some form of corrective vision I think you should get checked now.
Hi Joe, how business? ;D
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So you guys dont agree that Kamali looked the best he's ever looked?
I believe him ;D
Hey Sean, I heard a rumor that you bought Silvio some furnture for his apartment?? Damn bro, I think I may have been all wrong about you. And to think that you have done this out of the kindness of your heart. :'(
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he looks good in those pics but certainly not the MD pics! Very odd...
I agree. I mean there seems to be so much animosity for the guy that even when he looks good(the first posted mandatory relaxed picture)people can not separate their dislike for him and judge how he looks objectively. I mean It's kind of ridiculous. - I hate you, therefore your physique sucks? Huh? , what? :-\
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Disgusted, Do you train any drug-free athletes??
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I told you guys that I would bring King back to his old 2001 condition and I did and then some. Not bad for training 13 weeks after a 4 months layoff. So, for those of you who think that he looked better in Atlantic City or that he still has a big waist or that he should retire and whatever else blah blah blah stick this in your pipe and smoke it. ;D PS Anyone who has any 2001 pics bring them on!! I would love to see the comparisons.
tell kamali just because he holds his arms parellell to the stage his lats aren't any bigger, he just looks like a fool when he does that.
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So Dexter really said this? Not calling you a liar bro but I could call Dexter and find out, but why don't you be a little more specific as to how you know he said this.
Read it in an MD interview
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Someone told me your wife is the same nationality as King. If that is so, it would make sense why you hate on him so much. Before I go further, is that information accurate though?
Bump.
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Disgusted, Do you train any drug-free athletes??
Absolutley, have trained many thru the years. If anything they are easier to get in shape.
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Disgusted,
I thought that was you who trained Simone! My brother and I met you at the Mr. WV contest. We were in the show also. Kim told us who you were, and that you trained King.
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t224/SimplyHuge/11.jpg)
I'm the one on the right, and my brother is on the left.
Why aren't you competing? You looked gigantic!
I remember you guys. Both of you looked great. I saw your before pics, you guys both have great potential. I have thought about stepping on stage again so who knows. I'm down to about 255 from 295 from two years ago and still plan on getting down to around 240 and stay there. I feel great and plan to stay lighter so "if" I ever do again it won't be that hard as far as diet goes. Keep up the good work.
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I'm down to about 255 from 295 from two years ago
did you cut the mullet or something :D
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did you cut the mullet or something :D
That too. ;D I'm a new man!!!
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I think disguted's work with Kamali shows that GH gut is really just the accumulation of intra-abdominal fat from off-season bulking. It took King a while to lose it because the normal period of dieting is not enough to shed the IAF only the subcutaneous fat is lost. Obviously king has been trying to slim down longer, and is seeing the benefits.
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I think disguted's work with Kamali shows that GH gut is really just the accumulation of intra-abdominal fat from off-season bulking. It took King a while to lose it because the normal period of dieting is not enough to shed the IAF only the subcutaneous fat is lost. Obviously king has been trying to slim down longer, and is seeing the benefits.
I don't know... the gut was still real big... imagine if he had carb loaded heavily. It would have been as big as ever.
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I don't know... the gut was still real big... imagine if he had carb loaded heavily. It would have been as big as ever.
(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/pancakelovejm7.jpg)
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(http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u222/eliscominblue/pancakelovejm7.jpg)
HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA A That's fukin classic! ;D The quote actually fits the face. I remember the first time I saw that scene in the movie, it freaked me the hell out. :o
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Why are KK's legs so much smaller (thinner) than they use to be?
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Why are KK's legs so much smaller (thinner) than they use to be?
Because they were not as big as before.
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King better send his resume over to his wife's dad so he can get him a job cause BB isn't gonna pay the bills.
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King better send his resume over to his wife's dad so he can get him a job cause BB isn't gonna pay the bills.
He's already got something lined up....
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He's already got something lined up....
hahaha classic, anyone have that pick where King looks like the gay terminator? That outfit kills me, post it if you do please.
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Is goatboy's wife the same nationality as King?
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So the message is....
You managed to match King's 2001 condition, both of you are so happy, and by the way he ended up with the 9th place in a 2nd tear contest!!
Guess the operation succeeded, but the patient died!
Go figure!
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King is a lost cause and everyone knows it.
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Is goatboy's wife the same nationality as King?
Posted on: Today at 05:10:14 PMPosted by: G o a t b o y
King is a lost cause and everyone knows it.
Answer Matt's question.
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Posted on: Today at 05:10:14 PMPosted by: G o a t b o y
King is a lost cause and everyone knows it.
Answer Matt's question.
Why? It's pointless. I'm aware of the rumor Jimmy (vikingpower) started and King repeated, but the fact is it's horseshit and neither my wife nor I have ever met Kamali. I don't like the guy because he was an ass here on Getbig back when he posted regularly in '00 and '01, simple as that.
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so Shari tagged your wife?
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so Shari tagged your wife?
>:(
You're not helping, Robert.
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Thanks getfast for the pics! Nice comparison.
his arms in 2001 were bigger than the oiled up arms from 2007. whats your point? yes condition-wise you did a great job. but those synthol arms look ever worse then his normal skinny arms he sported the show before nyp
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You're not helping, Robert.
Sorry Joe
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I hear all the ladies want Tamali ::)
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Sorry Joe
I thought I was "george", Johnny.
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I thought I was "george", Johnny.
Well, I was "Ben"
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Well, I was "Ben"
Oh, that's right, Ben.... sorry. You'll have to forgive a little senility... I am almost 90 years old you know!
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Why? It's pointless. I'm aware of the rumor Jimmy (vikingpower) started and King repeated, but the fact is it's horseshit and neither my wife nor I have ever met Kamali. I don't like the guy because he was an ass here on Getbig back when he posted regularly in '00 and '01, simple as that.
I don't know anything about vp's nonsense and nor do I care.
It's none of my business, but I'm curious, so I'll try again.
Is your wife of the same ethnic background as Tamali? If this question is pointless then what harm will come of answering?
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I don't know anything about vp's nonsense and nor do I care.
It's none of my business, but I'm curious, so I'll try again.
Is your wife of the same ethnic background as Tamali? If this question is pointless then what harm will come of answering?
1/2 yes. Her mother was born in Iran. Her father is American of English ancestry. She was born here in the US.
Does this satisfy your curiosity? ::)
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So the message is....
You managed to match King's 2001 condition, both of you are so happy, and by the way he ended up with the 9th place in a 2nd tear contest!!
Guess the operation succeeded, but the patient died!
Go figure!
Hi Joe. ;D
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1/2 yes. Her mother was born in Iran. Her father is American of English ancestry. She was born here in the US.
Does this satisfy your curiosity? ::)
Yeah... Not that I think it has anything to do with you hating Tamali.
I hate the guy too. He's a delusional prick with a shitty physique. And he honestly expects us to buy his bs story of him being a world class bb'er with a fabulous lifestyle. Reality is that he's below 3rd tier and probably recieves finacial help from his parents.
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Yeah... Not that I think it has anything to do with you hating Tamali.
According to VP it has everything to do with me hating Tamali. As usual, he added 2 plus 2 and came up with 5. But this is why Matt is asking the question that he already knows the answer to.
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According to VP it has everything to do with me hating Tamali. As usual, he added 2 plus 2 and came up with 5. But this is why Matt is asking the question that he already knows the answer to.
Maybe King gave him a 100 bucks at the arnold classic expo. :-X Wouldn't surprise me if he resorted to something like that as he's rather obsessive about what we have to say about him..
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Disgusted,
Who gives a shit about his condition when he turns up with arms looking like that. They're a disgrace and hopefully he'll be penalised in every single show henceforth.
(Everybody uses it is not an excuse, not everybody has obvious signs of use like him).
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Disgusted,
Who gives a shit about his condition when he turns up with arms looking like that. They're a disgrace and hopefully he'll be penalised in every single show henceforth.
(Everybody uses it is not an excuse, not everybody has obvious signs of use like him).
What, are you saying the gap between his elbow and bicep insertion going from 3" in his last contest to 1/2" now wasn't the result of hard work in the gym? ;D
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Hey Ben......
didn't we sign teh a-hole?
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What, are you saying the gap between his elbow and bicep insertion going from 3" in his last contest to 1/2" now wasn't the result of hard work in the gym? ;D
I'm saying that no matter how you look at it.. using whatever excuse you feel is necessary no pro should be placing with arms that look like they are oiled up.
The question of whether they are is irrelevent, those arms look like shit now, before they were just small..
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I'm saying that no matter how you look at it.. using whatever excuse you feel is necessary no pro should be placing with arms that look like they are oiled up.
The question of whether they are is irrelevent, those arms look like shit now, before they were just small..
What's Disgusted's opinion about Kamali's biceps?
Would be very interesting to have him discuss his reaction when he saw Kamali's biceps at the show.
-Hedge
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since when the IFBB was checking guys for Synthol use?
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If king fixes his arms, get way more mass on his forearm, little better calves and quads + 15 pounds of muscle he would be great
now.......
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If king fixes his arms, get way more mass on his forearm, little better calves and quads + 15 pounds of muscle he would be great
now.......
if at this point in his career, if they are still lagging, the chances are like .5% on 100 that he can actually "fix" them. If it's not in the genetics, it won't just "fix" or "grow"
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If king fixes his arms, get way more mass on his forearm, little better calves and quads + 15 pounds of muscle he would be great
now.......
If If If
Come on.. using that logic you could turn any one of about 30 contenders into "great" bodybuilders.
What's Disgusted's opinion about Kamali's biceps?
Would be very interesting to have him discuss his reaction when he saw Kamali's biceps at the show.
-Hedge
.. His silence on the matter says it all.
His opinion is clearly that he has money to make and if he's got nothing good to say, he's not going to say it. Hah, when you consider how very little King wants to hear criticism like that you can't blame disgusted for not going there.
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I told you guys that I would bring King back to his old 2001 condition and I did and then some.
Most non-blind folks would disagree with you, Dave.
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bump for Kamali update? lol