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Title: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 03:58:04 PM
an answer for..................... ...BOOOOOOMMMMM. :o THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: mass 04 on December 04, 2008, 04:02:25 PM
I'm a huge Dorian fan, but that is insane. He doesn't look human.
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 04, 2008, 04:03:29 PM
1993 Black and Whites.  I won't even post them because they have become legend and everybody knows they kill anything else posted.  Good to see I'm getting into someone else's head, being that I'm listed in another thread title.  lol  The trolls are following me like a bunch of lost puppies. lol  I love how you guys run away from the other threads so you can hide out together and push your little agendas here.   A real Algonquin round table.  Ha ha ha.   ;D  Dorian consumes you.  If he wasn't such a legend, you wouldn't need to push so hard to try prove that your hero is better.  You are insecure and know that Ronnie isn't as good, proven by Ronnie's own words.  Oh how that must crush you.  Later girls.
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 04:04:48 PM
1993 Black and Whites.  I won't even post them because they have become legend and everybody knows they kill anything else posted.
hahahaha, even those don't come fuccking close to that, Ronnie looks like a fuccking comic book character there.
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 04, 2008, 04:05:45 PM
hahahaha, even those don't come fuccking close to that, Ronnie looks like a fuccking comic book character there.

You mean like other comic book heros in that he has a huge upper body and no calves? lol
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: dustin on December 04, 2008, 04:05:54 PM
1993 Black and Whites.  I won't even post them because they have become legend and everybody knows they kill anything else posted.

I know the pics you're talking about and he looks like a stumpy piece of mismatched crap with underwhelming arms and a huge waste.

Hope none of the Dorian fans meltdown over that last statement lol.. I'm not a Ronnie nut hugger but anyone who thinks Dorian is better is a blind fan boy. :-X
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 04:07:02 PM
You mean like other comic book heros in that he has a huge upper body and no calves? lol
hahahahhaa, predictable, same answer every time "what about the calves?" ::)
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:07:27 PM
1993 Black and Whites.  I won't even post them because they have become legend and everybody knows they kill anything else posted.  Good to see I'm getting into someone else's head, being that I'm listed in another thread title.  lol

no, you wont post them because they have been thoroughly destroyed by Ronnie Coleman:

 ::)

see for yourself.

everyone else can:
Title: Re: THE PIC THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 04:08:18 PM
no, you wont post them because they have been thoroughly destroyed by Ronnie Coleman:

 ::)

see for yourself.

everyone else can:
hahahahahahahaaaaa, Dorian OWNED beyond belief. :D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: TBUNZEE on December 04, 2008, 04:08:30 PM
Has this topic not been debated to death a thousand lives over again.....the question is too subjective and will always fall back to personal opinion....they each have their own strengths but the debate has had waaaaay too much debate...get on to something else....
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:09:05 PM
eat your heart out Dorian trolls



(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo496.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: dustin on December 04, 2008, 04:10:21 PM
Has this topic not been debated to death a thousand lives over again.....the question is too subjective and will always fall back to personal opinion....they each have their own strengths but the debate has had waaaaay too much debate...get on to something else....

I'm not bias or anything because you're right, they both have their strengths. But overall, Ronnie beats Dorian by a LONGSHOT. There is really no debate...
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:10:40 PM
Dorian trolls, go away your hero sucked ass


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo394.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:12:25 PM
this is not even a debate, Ronnie destroys Dorian day and night


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo280.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:13:01 PM
(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo258.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 04:13:29 PM
BOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM ;D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:15:22 PM
Dorian trolls, go away your hero sucked ass


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo394.jpg)

yeah, since look, dorian is so much better! ::)

the blind trolls embarassed beyond belief:
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:15:36 PM
UNTOUCHABLE



(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo188.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: QuakerOats on December 04, 2008, 04:16:26 PM
hahahhaha, i love how the Dorian nuthuggers always try to bring up Ronnies SUPPOSED lack of triceps when Ronnie is DESTROYING Dorian on tri's in what is supposed to be Dorian's best picture.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: jtsunami on December 04, 2008, 04:16:32 PM
more is not always better, case in being ronnie coleman with so much muscle it made him look troll like, no athstetics, yates is dusgusting as well no flow, if you want to talk about nice muscle look talk about levrone and Nasser took it to its limits.

jt
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:17:05 PM
ronnie even crushes dorian's famous lat spread, since here in his 99 form obliterating dorian best ever 93 form:

hahahahahahahahahaha
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:17:15 PM
UNSTOPABLE


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo189.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:18:35 PM
his triceps sure do look small here  ::)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo108.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:20:24 PM
BOOM!
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:22:53 PM
here are some screenshots that ND and Co. love to claim have been 'faked' by Bizzy, but everyone who has ever seen a video of the 99 olympia knows full well they are as real as they come.

they only cry fake because dorian cannot come close.

no other reason what so ever:
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 04:24:15 PM
a video clip of the 99 olympia, showing full well that dorian can't even compete:



http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

dorian never came close to this. ever.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:25:08 PM
I love how Nasser owned Dorian but looks like nothing next to Ronnie  ;D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 04:26:34 PM
Ronnie is #1
as he is stating here



(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo168.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: jtsunami on December 04, 2008, 04:29:05 PM
get a fuckin life and stop posting these ronnie pics
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: dr.chimps on December 04, 2008, 04:29:55 PM
an answer for..................... ...BOOOOOOMMMMM. :o THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.
That pic is insane. Not 'shopped or compressed in any way?
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:01:02 PM
here are some screenshots that ND and Co. love to claim have been 'faked' by Bizzy, but everyone who has ever seen a video of the 99 olympia knows full well they are as real as they come.

they only cry fake because dorian cannot come close.

no other reason what so ever:

LMFAO Hulkster back to posting his photshopped screencaps LMFAO

Kevin Horton BUSTED you for using these , he even called you a ' retard ' lol

here is Kevin Horton exposing Hulkster and his worked screencaps

Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:02:47 PM
Ronnie is #1
as he is stating here



(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo168.jpg)
;)

Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 05:05:10 PM
LMFAO Hulkster back to posting his photshopped screencaps LMFAO

Kevin Horton BUSTED you for using these , he even called you a ' retard ' lol

here is Kevin Horton exposing Hulkster and his worked screencaps




you have OBVIOUSLY not seen the 99 olympia video  :o



and it's a victory signal and you know that, stop acting like a fool.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Marty Champions on December 04, 2008, 05:05:49 PM
BOOM BOOOOM!!!
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/colombuena.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/1103336467_l.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:07:01 PM

you have OBVIOUSLY not seen the 99 olympia video  :o



and it's a victory signal and you know that, stop acting like a fool.

FTY that's the 2001 Olympia  ;)

come back when you know what you're talking about  :)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 05:08:48 PM
FTY that's the 2001 Olympia  ;)

come back when you know what you're talking about  :)


I never claimed those shots were from the 99 olympia, I just said you have never seen the 99 olympia video


come back when you can comprehend what I type  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:11:13 PM

I never claimed those shots were from the 99 olympia, I just said you have never seen the 99 olympia video


come back when you can comprehend what I type  ;)

I seen the 99 Olympia and I was referring to the pic I typed  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 05:21:34 PM
I seen the 99 Olympia and I was referring to the pic I typed  ;)

I see that you use the wink alot  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:22:45 PM
I see that you use the wink alot  ;)

it's a meme and it works
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 05:25:42 PM
it's a meme and it works

right, you forgot to use it this time ;D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 05:34:34 PM
ND has seen the 99 olympia but he refuses to believe that any pics, footage or screencaps of the contest are real..

because this is what happens:

93 dorian absolutely gets obliterated.

so all he can do is claim its all faked... ::) ::)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:41:19 PM
ND has seen the 99 olympia but he refuses to believe that any pics, footage or screencaps of the contest are real..

because this is what happens:

93 dorian absolutely gets obliterated.

so all he can do is claim its all faked... ::) ::)

Don't presume to speak for me NO not all 99 Olympia screencaps are photoshopped ONLY the ones YOU posted for months , the ones Bizzy made , the ones Kevin Horton BUSTED YOU using it's obvious those are worthless  ;)

I posted dozens of scanned pictures of Ronnie from the 99 Olympia , Forcedreps posted dozens of 99 Olympia screencaps NOTHING wrong with those either , just the one YOU were busted with I have a problem with


another Hulkster backfired thread trying to speak for me  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 05:55:19 PM
here you Dorian trolls, debate over  ;)




Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 05:59:01 PM
here you Dorian trolls, debate over  ;)






Dorian at his best carries more muscular bulk 269 pounds VS 257 pounds
Dorian at his best is drier & harder
Dorian at his best has better balance & proportion
Dorian at his best has better posing & presentation
Dorian at his best is more complete

Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:00:43 PM
Don't presume to speak for me NO not all 99 Olympia screencaps are photoshopped ONLY the ones YOU posted for months , the ones Bizzy made , the ones Kevin Horton BUSTED YOU using it's obvious those are worthless  ;)

I posted dozens of scanned pictures of Ronnie from the 99 Olympia , Forcedreps posted dozens of 99 Olympia screencaps NOTHING wrong with those either , just the one YOU were busted with I have a problem with


another Hulkster backfired thread trying to speak for me  ;)

and what ND is too stupid to notice is that although he insists the Bizzy screencaps and videos are faked, the ones made by ForcedReps,  or Iceman also KILL dorian:

see for yourself:
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:01:05 PM
Dorian at his best carries more muscular bulk 269 pounds VS 257 pounds
Dorian at his best is drier & harder
Dorian at his best has better balance & proportion
Dorian at his best has better posing & presentation
Dorian at his best is more complete



meltdown, apparently everybody's eyes are deceiving them then
because in every picture Ronnie KILLS Dorian

post pictures of both in their prime and dorian would not win in any pose  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:02:56 PM
meltdown, apparently everybody's eyes are deceiving them then
because in every picture Ronnie KILLS Dorian

post pictures of both in their prime and dorian would not win in any pose  ;)

o.k. FYI 1999 isn't his prime first of all and neither is 2003  ;)

and I'll let you troll away , enjoy.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:03:28 PM
ronnie 99 crushing dorian 93 as usual.

deal with it ND
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NaturalWonder83 on December 04, 2008, 06:03:44 PM
wow ronnie looks great in the pix
what happened to dorian?
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Alex23 on December 04, 2008, 06:03:59 PM
HAHAHAHHA I just love this endless gebig debate...

prolly the sanest threads on getbig...

two different physiques, two Mr Olympia...

One is obviously more gifted than the other... I won't thell you which one  ;D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:04:53 PM
HAHAHAHHA I just love this endless gebig debate...

prolly the sanest threads on getbig...

two different physiques, two Mr Olympia...

One is obviously more gifted than the other... I won't thell you which one  ;D

One meets the criteria better than the other lol
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:07:13 PM
wow ronnie looks great in the pix
what happened to dorian?

Dorian was not as good, that simple
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:09:45 PM
Dorian is not genetically capable of ever touching Ronnie.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:10:46 PM
relentless you had forgot one word in there for a second   ;D
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:15:15 PM
Dorian is not genetically capable of ever touching Ronnie.

ronnie begs to differ
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:15:41 PM
relentless you had forgot one word in there for a second   ;D

Yes, I quickly realized that!
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:17:54 PM
This is called "taper."  I wonder if Dorian is aware of what this word means?
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: elite_lifter on December 04, 2008, 06:18:31 PM
Ronnie was better!
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 06:18:55 PM
Hell yeah, Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder of all-time!!! 8)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/cc48c.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman156.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/03%20Mr%20Olympia/RonnieColeman5abc.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/RonnieColemansBack1996.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 06:20:45 PM
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie12.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie13.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie16a.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-Ronnie18.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:20:58 PM
This is called "taper."  I wonder if Dorian is aware of what this word means?

Yes he does  ;)

completeness I wonder if Ronnie is aware of what this word means?
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:22:07 PM
Ronnie was better!

And it's not even close.  Dorian isn't in the same league.  Hell, Dorian shouldn't have even won the Olympia but a couple of times!  He legitimately won in 92 and 93...but tore his bicep in 94 and sported a belly.  He looked great from a conditioning standpoint in 95, but was still missing that bicep.  He should have lost in 96 and 97 to Kevin and Nasser.  Dorian's legend is based off a good deal of hype!  He was a great bodybuilder, but nowhere close to Ronnie Coleman.

This is the King!
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:23:49 PM
ND, mind explaining to us what the f**k this is?  :-X


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250868.0;attach=290847;image)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 06:24:11 PM
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman14.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman47.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-RonnieColeman33.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/01%20ASC/2001ASC-Ronnie112.jpg)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:25:20 PM
And it's not even close.  Dorian isn't in the same league.  Hell, Dorian shouldn't have even won the Olympia but a couple of times!  He legitimately won in 92 and 93...but tore his bicep in 94 and sported a belly.  He looked great from a conditioning standpoint in 95, but was still missing that bicep.  He should have lost in 96 and 97 to Kevin and Nasser.  Dorian's legend is based off a good deal of hype!  He was a great bodybuilder, but nowhere close to Ronnie Coleman.

This is the King!

exactly! Ronnie kills Dorian, no debate
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:25:57 PM
Dorian looked good in the back double bicep pose....if you weren't paying attention to his arms!  

How can you Dorian sympathizers overlook his sub-par arms?  Even before the bicep tear, his arms were not all that impressive when compared against other top tier pros.  

....Dorian's arms were a huge weakness!
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:28:18 PM
ND, mind explaining to us what the f**k this is?  :-X


(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250868.0;attach=290847;image)
;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:31:37 PM
exactly! Ronnie kills Dorian, no debate

I think Dorian is revered because of his herculean work ethic...and because he gave the white man hope.  Let's get it straight, Dorian was a great bodybuilder and deserves huge respect.  However, these ridiculous comparisons with Ronnie Coleman are old hat.  

Dorian was nowhere close to Ronnie, period.  

Who could ever beat this front double?  Nobody.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:33:16 PM
;)

Ronnie has a more aesthetic gut...and he's backstage. 

ND, why do you think Dorian was better than Ronnie?  Let's hear a logical explanation on why the 6-time Mr. O was better than the 8-time Mr. O.
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:33:47 PM
I think Dorian is revered because of his herculean work ethic...and because he gave the white man hope.  Let's get it straight, Dorian was a great bodybuilder and deserves huge respect.  However, these ridiculous comparisons with Ronnie Coleman are old hat.  

Dorian was nowhere close to Ronnie, period.  

Who could ever beat this front double?  Nobody.

That's from the 2000 Olympia where he was holding a ton of water and this shot walks ALL OVER that one

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier , and has much better balance & proportion and he's complete to boot
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: suckmymuscle on December 04, 2008, 06:36:32 PM
an answer for..................... ...BOOOOOOMMMMM THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME.

  You're such a troll, dude. I am still tring to decide who is the bigger troll, if you or Blutroll. And this picture has been addressed before several times and you know it. Ronnie's muscular development is overwhelming, but his symmetry and conditioning are shit. No one from the Dorian side ever questioned that Ronnie had great muscle size in 2003/4.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:37:46 PM
Ronnie has a more aesthetic gut...and he's backstage. 

ND, why do you think Dorian was better than Ronnie?  Let's hear a logical explanation on why the 6-time Mr. O was better than the 8-time Mr. O.

LMFAO a more ' aesthetic ' gut best line of the night and this one is ON-Stage

and I love your plea for a ' logic explanation ' while replying on faulty logic , Ronnie has two more O's so he's better lol Dorian has 8 wins over Ronnie and thats a taste of your own logic

Dorian at his best carries more muscular bulk
Dorian at his best is harder & drier
Dorian at his best has better balance & proportion
Dorian at his best has better posing & presentation skills
Dorian at his best is more complete
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:38:19 PM
I think Dorian is revered because of his herculean work ethic...and because he gave the white man hope.  Let's get it straight, Dorian was a great bodybuilder and deserves huge respect.  However, these ridiculous comparisons with Ronnie Coleman are old hat.  

Dorian was nowhere close to Ronnie, period.  

Who could ever beat this front double?  Nobody.

I respect his work ethic A LOT, but he doesn't beat Ronnie, no way, no how
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:38:32 PM
  You're such a troll, dude. I am still tring to decide who is the bigger troll, if you or Blutroll. And this picture has been addressed before several times and you know it. Ronnie's muscular development is overwhelming, but hs symmetry and conditioning are shit. No one from the Dorian side ever questioned that Ronnie had great muscle size in 2003/4.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

he is a troll , textbook
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Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:39:18 PM
That's from the 2000 Olympia where he was holding a ton of water and this shot walks ALL OVER that one

Dorian is bigger , harder , drier , and has much better balance & proportion and he's complete to boot

What's wrong with you?  Ronnie was holding a TON of water at the 2000 show?  Dorian is bigger, harder and drier?  With better balance?  

...I take it you are also a big fan of Jay?  

By the way, the consensus amongst pro bodybuilders and people in the industry is that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder in history.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:39:59 PM
I respect his work ethic A LOT, but he doesn't beat Ronnie, no way, no how

Has zero to do with his work ethic or race , he best Ronnie plenty of times and would beat him again , the odds are in his favor and so is the criteria
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:41:14 PM
What's wrong with you?  Ronnie was holding a TON of water at the 2000 show?  Dorian is bigger, harder and drier?  With better balance?  

...I take it you are also a big fan of Jay?  

By the way, the consensus amongst pro bodybuilders and people in the industry is that Ronnie is the greatest bodybuilder in history.

NO fan of Jay

and Ronnie is the Greatest Bodybuilder in history and that has NOTHING to do with Dorian at his best , Dorian at his best would beat him soundly , he's to overwhelming
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:41:45 PM
Yes he does  ;)

completeness I wonder if Ronnie is aware of what this word means?

lol you post pics of dorian showing how incredibly undersized his arms were for his physique, and you have the balls to type the word "complete" along with it????

 ::) ::)
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:42:00 PM
they BOTH had disgusting guts


Conditioning? Ronnie was shredded every Mr. O  ;)
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Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 06:42:41 PM
Has zero to do with his work ethic or race , he best Ronnie plenty of times and would beat him again , the odds are in his favor and so is the criteria

The vast MAJORITY of pros and industry experts disagree with you.  Sorry bro, you are allowed to have a favorite...but Ronnie is generally viewed as the best bodybuilder ever and a man without genetic equal.

By the way, the more "aesthetic gut" thing was a joke.  GH guts are just a part of today's scene.  Ronnie had a much better shoulder to waist ratio than Dorian, and that's a fact.
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:44:37 PM
game over for dorian.

ND, babble away:
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:45:08 PM
lol you post pics of dorian showing how incredibly undersized his arms were for his physique, and you have the balls to type the word "complete" along with it????

 ::) ::)

Undesized says YOU history judges otherwise

same contets different angles , end result Hulkster = owned as usual
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:46:49 PM
The vast MAJORITY of pros and industry experts disagree with you.  Sorry bro, you are allowed to have a favorite...but Ronnie is generally viewed as the best bodybuilder ever and a man without genetic equal.

By the way, the more "aesthetic gut" thing was a joke.  GH guts are just a part of today's scene.  Ronnie had a much better shoulder to waist ratio than Dorian, and that's a fact.


Quote
The vast MAJORITY of pros and industry experts disagree with you.  Sorry bro, you are allowed to have a favorite...but Ronnie is generally viewed as the best bodybuilder ever and a man without genetic equal.

textbook aregument ad populum , which is faulty logic

Ronnie has a better shoulder to waist ratio when he lost to Dorian 8 times , what did it do for him?
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:47:10 PM
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The vast MAJORITY of pros and industry experts disagree with you.  Sorry bro, you are allowed to have a favorite...but Ronnie is generally viewed as the best bodybuilder ever and a man without genetic equal.

exactly.

its pretty clear dorian didn't have the genetics to even compete with ronnie at his best.

his muscles lacked the seperation, lacked the shape, his body lacked the vascularity and taper:

sorry.
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:49:03 PM
Undesized says YOU history judges otherwise

same contets different angles , end result Hulkster = owned as usual

different angles  ::)
Ronnie looked great from EVERY angle
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:49:24 PM
exactly.

its pretty clear dorian didn't have the genetics to even compete with ronnie at his best.

his muscles lacked the seperation, lacked the shape, his body lacked the vascularity and taper:

sorry.

photoshopped
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 06:50:09 PM
Undesized says YOU history judges otherwise

yes, undersized arms. Why do you fear posting straight on shots?

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/DorianYates5.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/1993MrOlympia-Victory3.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/93%20Mr%20Olympia/TwigsOnBarrel.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/DorianYates1.jpg)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:50:46 PM
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textbook aregument ad populum , which is faulty logic


sigh. you clearly know as little about philosophy as you do about bodybuilding. ::)

if you do some research you will see that when a majority of qualified experts in a feild agree on something it is generally regarded as true. and is NOT a fallacy case of the ad populum argument. do your homework next time, idiot.

this is in sharp contrast to the majority of LAYMEN agreeing on something, which means nothing.

learn something for a change..

you suck at bodybuilding evaluation just as badly as you suck at basic philosophy.. :-\
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:51:34 PM
different angles  ::)
Ronnie looked great from EVERY angle

As did Dorian
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:54:00 PM
yes, undersized arms. Why do you fear posting straight on shots?





Thanks for responding to MY post puppy dog  ;)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:54:26 PM
photoshopped

not photoshopped at all fucking idiot:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

see what I mean about everything ronnie 99 being faked according to  ND because it kils dorian?

see?

 ::)
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:55:21 PM
As did Dorian

yeah sure... ::)

even Flea Labrada crushed dorian in 92: lol

Ronnie would have eaten him for lunch:
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:55:28 PM
photoshopped

I posted the f**cking video, stop making excuses for the way Dorian looks like crap compared to Ronnie
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 06:56:39 PM
if you do some research you will see that when a majority of qualified experts in a feild agree on something it is generally regarded as true. and is NOT a fallacy case of the ad populum argument. do your homework next time, idiot.

this is in sharp contrast to the majority of LAYMEN agreeing on something, which means nothing.

exactly, a majority of experts arriving at the same conclusion is not ad populum when a layman disagrees with them. ND just likes to use this excuse b/c he knows he's fighting a losing battle.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:56:54 PM
not photoshopped at all fucking idiot:

http://www.truveo.com/Ronnie-Coleman-1999-Mr-Olympia-Part-Two/id/1160132027

see what I mean about everything ronnie 99 being faked according to  ND because it kils dorian?

see?

 ::)

Thats the VIDEO Bizzy hosted  ;) I told you before NOT all are photoshopped ANYTHING Bizzy made is useless and tampered with

stop out right lying I never claimed everything from 1999 is fake
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:57:02 PM
I posted the f**cking video, stop making excuses for the way Dorian looks like crap compared to Ronnie

exactly.

this is all the nuthuggers can do... ::) ::) ::) ::)

all they can do is cry and complain about 'faked' pics and footage that is as valid and real as anything..

 ::) ::) ::)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:57:34 PM
exactly, a majority of experts arriving at the same conclusion is not ad populum when a layman disagrees with them.

A popular opinion does NOT mean it's correct that's the bottom line
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 06:57:56 PM
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Thats the VIDEO Bizzy hosted  

no it isn't.

thats from a different site hopeless fool.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 06:58:41 PM
I posted the f**cking video, stop making excuses for the way Dorian looks like crap compared to Ronnie

Dorian looks like crap compared to Ronnie says a Ronnie guy LOL great logic
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 06:59:49 PM
no it isn't.

thats from a different site hopeless fool.

hahahahhaha and I posted the videos from youtube, totally different

we can now "photoshop" videos

what an idiot!
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:00:57 PM
no it isn't.

thats from a different site hopeless fool.

Bull shit Bizzy hosted that on Daily Motion and left the exact same description lol keep posting your worked ' proof '
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:04:10 PM
hahahahhaha and I posted the videos from youtube, totally different

we can now "photoshop" videos

what a fucking idiot!

Who is ' we ' ? and yes you can manipulate video absolutely and that's Bizzy's handy work he posted that on Daily Motion and left the exact same description  ;) anything from Bizzy is suspect

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Post by: Relentless on December 04, 2008, 07:11:09 PM
NO fan of Jay

and Ronnie is the Greatest Bodybuilder in history and that has NOTHING to do with Dorian at his best , Dorian at his best would beat him soundly , he's to overwhelming

Dorian's best was a series of photos taken a couple of weeks out of the Mr. Olympia at his gym.  WOW!

There's really no way to settle this...you're set in your value set (as am I), and that's perfectly fine.  I just happen to side with the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of bodybuilding fans and experts who recognize Ronnie Coleman as the best bodybuilder ever...by far!
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
Dorian's best was a series of photos taken a couple of weeks out of the Mr. Olympia at his gym.  WOW!

There's really no way to settle this...you're set in your value set (as am I), and that's perfectly fine.  I just happen to side with the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of bodybuilding fans and experts who recognize Ronnie Coleman as the best bodybuilder ever...by far!

And? Ronnie Coleman on multiple occasions said he couldn't beat Dorian  ;) his opinion trumps ALL of yours
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:22:09 PM
And? Ronnie Coleman on multiple occasions said he couldn't beat Dorian his opinion trumps ALL of yours

::)

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
::)

Ronnie Coleman Interview by John Stamatopoulos

John: "Let's say that it would be possible to have a bodybuilding contest where the only competitors would be you... and Dorian Yates, and all of you in their prime condition. Who do you believe would win?"

Ronnie: "Come on now, this is the age of Ronnie Coleman who else would win."

http://creditplushealth.org/health%20education%20content/ronnie%20coleman%20beating%20arnold.htm

hey puppy you omitted a part again , deception gets you exposed Neo

but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.


I couldn't have beat them in their hey days .  ;)

puppy = owned

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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:24:53 PM
And? Ronnie Coleman on multiple occasions said he couldn't beat Dorian his opinion trumps ALL of yours

Big deal! Joe Weider is the co-founder of the IFBB, and his opinion trumps Ronnie's. ;)

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:26:20 PM
Joe Weider is the co-founder of the IFBB, and his opinion trumps Ronnie's. ;)

Joe Weider - IFBB Co-Founder

"Many experts, including reigning Mr.Olympia, Jay Cutler, believe that at his best Ronnie has the greatest physique of all-time. When looking at pictures of Ronnie from the 1998 Mr.Olympia, I find it hard to argue with that."

lmfao NO it does NOT he's not in the debate it's Ronnie and Dorian NOT Ronnie and Joe

he finds it hard to argue that , Ronnie doesn't  ;)

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:29:17 PM
aken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.  Dorian has a big physique - hard- and he's been the man to beat, and its hard to knock the champion off the block.  He's a big guy and has a lot going for him.  He overcame so many adversities, like his torn biceps, I couldnt see too much else stopping him.


You think so?

Ronnie: I know so

LMFAO

puppy-Neo = owned

you follow me from thread to thread only to get your ass kicked  ;)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:30:35 PM
hey you omitted a part again , deception gets you exposed Neo

but I couldn't have beat them in their hey days.

yeah, so? Ronnie is referring to the judges' tendency to favor the defending champ.

by the way, you want more milkshake? I can whip you up some right now. ;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)

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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:34:28 PM
yeah, so? Ronnie is referring to the judges' tendency to favor the defending champ.

by the way, you want more milkshake? I can whip you up a batch right now. ;)




did you miss the part where he elaborates on why ? his physique and his DENSITY  ;)



again Neo your mind may be in the homosexual gutter but my reference was only about the massive ownings you've been getting , but I take no offense if you want to think of me like that knock yourself out kid  ;)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:35:54 PM
lmfao NO it does NOT he's not in the debate it's Ronnie and Dorian NOT Ronnie and Joe

bwahahaha, this is comedic gold. Now you're saying the co-founder of the IFBB is wrong and you're right!?! ;D
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 04, 2008, 07:37:16 PM
I still don't get this debate.  Dorian looked great at one point, can't take that away from him.  Ronnie had a much more impressive physique.  How can that even be argued.  He's in another league.  
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:38:48 PM
bwahahaha, this is comedic gold. Now you're saying the co-founder of the IFBB is wrong and you're right!?! ;D

You're saying yates is wrong and YOU are right , see hypocrite and please where did I say he was wrong?  ;)
Ronnie's opinion on the topic carries more weight than YOU and Joe Weider it's specific to HIM and someone else and when he goes on record THREE times saying he couldn't beat Dorian that speaks VOLUMES

Neo how does it feel being exposed again for following me to yet another thread? like a lost little puppy lol

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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 07:39:39 PM
A popular opinion does NOT mean it's correct that's the bottom line

do some research about ad populum and get back to us.

because you don't understand the philosophy.

the opinon of qualified experts is NOT a fallicious case of ad populum argument.

it is a VALID one.

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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:39:44 PM
I still don't get this debate.  Dorian looked great at one point, can't take that away from him.  Ronnie had a much more impressive physique.  How can that even be argued.  He's in another league.  

That's the whole thing it can be argued , quite reasonably . Ronnie himself says he couldn't beat Dorian that speaks volumes .
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:41:17 PM
do some research about ad populum and get back to us.

because you don't understand the philosophy.

the opinon of qualified experts is NOT a fallicious case of ad populum argument.

it is a VALID one.



NO it's not your trying to pass off a popular opinion as a correct opinion , textbook appeal to numbers

" Ronnie is better because a lot of experts says he is " NONE of your ' experts are judges an they are the final word on the subject
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 07:41:45 PM
I still don't get this debate.  Dorian looked great at one point, can't take that away from him.  Ronnie had a much more impressive physique.  How can that even be argued.  He's in another league.  

its argued because people like ND are stupid and don't know how to evaluate physiques properly

the rest of us do and can plainly see Ronnie crushes him.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:42:34 PM
its argued because people like ND are stupid and don't know how to evaluate physiques properly

the rest of us do and can plainly see Ronnie crushes him.

LMFAO everytime YOU type I'm stupid your own hero agrees with me lol that must suck bad for you ( among others )
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:45:21 PM
its argued because people like ND are stupid and don't know how to evaluate physiques properly

the rest of us do and can plainly see Ronnie crushes him.

on the topic of evaluating physiques , please explain to us how you came to the conclusion Ronnie has more detail calves than Dorian and how Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia again? lol
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 07:46:03 PM
LMFAO everytime YOU type I'm stupid your own hero agrees with me lol that must suck bad for you ( among others )


Ronnie Coleman claimed to be a natural also, he wasn't the most honest guy around
or the smartest, he was better than Dorian and that is what is up for debate  ;)
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Post by: upjacked on December 04, 2008, 07:47:08 PM

Ronnie Coleman claimed to be a natural also, he wasn't the most honest guy around
or the smartest, he was better than Dorian and that is what is up for debate  ;)

and I don't understand why it's up for debate, it's clear to everybody he is better, except to you and your trolls
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Post by: wolfgang187 on December 04, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
get a fuckin life and stop posting these ronnie pics


DID BIG NASTY SHOOT YOU DOWN!
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 07:48:27 PM
You're saying yates is wrong and YOU are right , see hypocrite and please where did I say he was wrong? Ronnie's opinion on the topic carries more weight than YOU and Joe Weider it's specific to HIM and someone else and when he goes on record THREE times saying he couldn't beat Dorian that speaks VOLUMES

damn, you're f*cking retarded. Joe Weider agrees that Ronnie at his best "has the greatest physique of all-time." In case you didn't know, "all-time" means every bodybuilder that ever competed including Dorian.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:48:48 PM

Ronnie Coleman claimed to be a natural also, he wasn't the most honest guy around
or the smartest, he was better than Dorian and that is what is up for debate  ;)

Ronnie had a very good reason to be deceptive about being ON he was a reserve police officer that doesn't look good for the department

Ronnie has no reason to lie when he says he feels Dorian would beat him , Dorian did in fact beat Ronnie on many occasions previously , he fears Dorian for a very good reason  ;)

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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 07:50:18 PM
on the topic of evaluating physiques , please explain to us how you came to the conclusion Ronnie has more detail calves than Dorian and how Dorian lost the 1993 Mr Olympia again? lol

the difference between you and I is that I changed my opinion given new evidence.

you keeping typing the same tired old crap despite it being disproven a billion times over with real pics and videos..

case in point: when the 99 screens and videos were posted, rather than change your opinion (like many others did eg. Pubes was even saying ronnie was better) you just ignored it and kept right on posting your crap..

 ::)

you don't critically evaluate your stand given new evidence, which is the hallmark of someone who has no clue what they are doing..
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 04, 2008, 07:51:16 PM
  It would be interesting to see Dorian as he appeared in those famous black&whites all oiled up and under stage lighting. If he were as conditioned at that weight as Ronnie 1999 or more - and there's no reason why he wouldn't as Peter McGough said Dorian gained very little in conditioning from when those pics were taken to the 93' Olympia - then the debate is over, as Dorian's edge of 12 muscular pounds with superior symmetry and equal conditioning would easily give him the win. Ronnie 2003 would be 18 lbs heavier but with inferior conditoning and symmetry, so Ronnie 2003 vs Dorian black&whites is not analogous to Dorian black&whites vs Ronnie 1999.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:51:36 PM
damn, you're f*cking retarded. Joe Weider agrees that Ronnie at his best "has the greatest physique of all-time."  In case you didn't know, "all-time" means every bodybuilder that ever competed including Dorian.

And this means what? this negates Ronnie's comments how? please explain that to me puppy , explain to me how everyone's words are meaningful &b accurate yet Ronnie's are worthless lol

Joe Weider's opinion matters NO MORE than Ronnie's in fact it matters less because he's not the man in question Ronnie is  ;)

and you're getting frustrated puppy why do you follow ME around from thread to thread if you're going to get upset?

why so serious? lol
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:54:08 PM
the difference between you and I is that I changed my opinion given new evidence.

you keeping typing the same tired old crap despite it being disproven a billion times over with real pics and videos..

case in point: when the 99 screens and videos were posted, rather than change your opinion (like many others did eg. Pubes was even saying ronnie was better) you just ignored it and kept right on posting your crap..

 ::)

you don't critically evaluate your stand given new evidence, which is the hallmark of someone who has no clue what they are doing..


LMFAO new evidence MY ASS you changed your mind because you got beat down on your insanely dumb evaluation skills , I still laugh at your ignorance and stick 1999 up your bottom , it's not even his best showing you're still dead wrong about that one as well

and by new ; evidence ' you mean that PHOTOSHOPPED screencap you posted that we outed you on and denied and then a professional confirmed it lol Kevin Horton exposed you and Bizzy and your ' evidence '

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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:56:19 PM
ROFL! and the "department" was fucking blind to think he is natural?
I already told you, he has a reason, being humble, don't start the same shit again
by your own logic Lee Haney was better than Yates and Yates would have never beaten him

Again spare me the humble routine that's been dismissed see Gunther and Cutler  ;)

and NO all of Ronnie quotes were made AFTER Dorian retired

Yates beat Haney in the muscularity round despite being 10 pounds lighter , Dorian would have left Haney for dead in 1993 , in fact he wanted Haney to compete and he said he would beat him.
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 04, 2008, 07:56:43 PM
damn, you're f*cking retarded. Joe Weider agrees that Ronnie at his best "has the greatest physique of all-time." In case you didn't know, "all-time" means every bodybuilder that ever competed including Dorian.

  It's funny, SemenHole, because at another thread you rejected Bannout's opinion about Dorian having the best back ever on account of him being "old and senile", and yet you accept Weider's opinion of who's the best ever even though he's 87 and thus far more likely to be senile than Bannout, who is much younger. Hypocrisy, anyone? No wonder you're known as SemenHole. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE                          
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 07:58:52 PM
 It's funny, SemenHole, because at another thread you rejected Benaziza's opinion about Dorian having the best back ever on account of him being "old and senile", and yet you accept Weider's opinion of who's the best ever even though he's 87 and thus far more likely to be senile than Benaziza, who is much younger. Hypocrisy, anyone? No wonder you're known as SemenHole. ;)

SUCKMYMUSCLE                          

neo is a textbook HYPOCRITE polls are useless unless they say Ronnie is better , quotes are worthless unless they say Ronnie is better , Ronnie is an idiot yet Greg Valentino's opinion is correct lol

Neo is my little puppy , he follows me around from thread to thread looking for my attention
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 08:00:53 PM
 It would be interesting to see Dorian as he appeared in those famous black&whites all oiled up and under stage lighting. If he were as conditioned at that weight as Ronnie 1999 or more - and there's no reason why he wouldn't as Peter McGough said Dorian gained very little in conditioning from when those pics were taken to the 93' Olympia - then the debate is over, as Dorian's edge of 12 muscular pounds with superior symmetry and equal conditioning would easily give him the win. Ronnie 2003 would be 18 lbs heavier but with inferior conditoning and symmetry, so Ronnie 2003 vs Dorian black&whites is not analogous to Dorian black&whites vs Ronnie 1999.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

 you don't seem to understand that ronnie has crushed those pics under smilar conditions, so who cares what dorian looked like under stage lighting because Ronnie would still be much better.

see for yourself:
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 08:01:44 PM
now now, HypocriticDeity and Suckmyasshole. No need to fight over my milkshake. You can both have some. ;)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Dorian%20Yates/NDisaFag1.jpg)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 04, 2008, 08:02:44 PM
now now, lost puppies. No need to fight over my milkshake. You can both have some. ;)




Neo what your excuse for following me again? lol

Hi Neo  ;)
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Post by: NeoSeminole on December 04, 2008, 08:07:54 PM
you don't seem to understand that ronnie has crushed those pics under smilar conditions, so who cares what dorian looked like under stage lighting because Ronnie would still be much better.

see for yourself:

exactly. If they want to nominate off-stage versions of Dorian, then 02 BFTO Ronnie is still better.

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman5.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman1.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman2.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman6.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman10.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman9.jpg)
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Post by: XFACTOR on December 04, 2008, 08:23:16 PM
exactly. If they want to nominate off-stage versions of Dorian, then 02 BFTO Ronnie is still better.

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman5.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman1.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman2.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman6.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman10.jpg)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h29/NeoSeminole/Ronnie%20Coleman/02%20BFTO/2002BFTO-RonnieColeman9.jpg)

Those are the most spectacular bodybuilding photos I have ever seen.  Come on ND you have to admit Dorian never looked this good.  You have to be blind to not see that.  I am totally unbiased here as well.  I actually like Dorian more than Ronnie.
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Post by: Big Worm on December 04, 2008, 08:31:52 PM
more is not always better, case in being ronnie coleman with so much muscle it made him look troll like, no athstetics, yates is dusgusting as well no flow, if you want to talk about nice muscle look talk about levrone and Nasser took it to its limits.

jt
Nasser sucks ..Plain and simple!  If you want power, size and shape ...? It doesn't get any better than Coleman ..Both men you Lust over have no Sandows ...So please Gayt...Stop already..
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Post by: Big Worm on December 04, 2008, 08:35:07 PM
ND has seen the 99 olympia but he refuses to believe that any pics, footage or screencaps of the contest are real..

because this is what happens:

93 dorian absolutely gets obliterated.

so all he can do is claim its all faked... ::) ::)
Yates needs to tuck that fat on his lower back ,into his trunks.
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 08:59:36 PM
Yates needs to tuck that fat on his lower back ,into his trunks.

no shit. ronnie 99 obliterates dorian 93.
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 09:01:13 PM
Those are the most spectacular bodybuilding photos I have ever seen.  Come on ND you have to admit Dorian never looked this good.  You have to be blind to not see that.  I am totally unbiased here as well.  I actually like Dorian more than Ronnie.

^

care to respond ND LOL

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Post by: Camel Jockey on December 04, 2008, 09:21:40 PM
Ronnie's best shots destroy even the 1993 black and white Dorian shots.
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Post by: pumpster on December 04, 2008, 09:44:03 PM
ND whoozy after tonite's meltdowns and reality checks.
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Post by: Hulkster on December 04, 2008, 10:01:51 PM
Ronnie's best shots destroy even the 1993 black and white Dorian shots.

exactly:

the real question is, will ND and Co. ever learn enough about bodybuilding to see and understand this?

I doubt it... :-\
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 04, 2008, 10:41:42 PM
you don't seem to understand that ronnie has crushed those pics under smilar conditions, so who cares what dorian looked like under stage lighting because Ronnie would still be much better.

see for yourself:

  First of all, Peter McGough has mentioned that he believes that any version of Ronnie above 245 lbs would look soft next to a 269 lbs Dorian, so you choosing off-season shots of Ronnie to compare to Dorian's black&whites is retarded. The real issue is whether 269 lbs Dorian would be equally conditioned as 257 lbs Ronnie. If Dorian's conditioning is equal or superior like McGough says, then it's over. We would need to see Dorian under the special lights that Ronnie was at the 1999 Olympia to make n accurate comparison. Secondly, you can't compare those off-season shots of Ronnie to Dorian in the black&whites because Dorian and Ronnie also are under diferent lights and the photos were taken with different cameras, etc. Too many variables for us to know. If Ronnie only has the conditioning of Dorian at 269 lbs when he's 245 lbs, then Dorian wins flat out: Dorian in the famous black&whites would be bigger and harder than Ronnie 1999.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: QuakerOats on December 05, 2008, 07:58:32 AM
hahahahaa, epic calves the same size as his quads. ;D
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 08:02:04 AM
not this again  >:(

Ronnie DESTROYS Dorian in every way possible.
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Post by: _bruce_ on December 05, 2008, 10:05:20 AM
Ronnie is beyond Dorian - genetically superior.
Though Dorian is the most impressive white bodybuilder.
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 10:07:36 AM

Though Dorian is the most impressive white bodybuilder.

Let's hope not, we're all doomed if so.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 12:01:34 PM
Those are the most spectacular bodybuilding photos I have ever seen.  Come on ND you have to admit Dorian never looked this good.  You have to be blind to not see that.  I am totally unbiased here as well.  I actually like Dorian more than Ronnie.

Dorian's B&W crushes those he harder & drier and better balanced and more complete
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 12:15:07 PM
Dorian's B&W crushes those he harder & drier and better balanced and more complete

you're ridiculous.

How is dorian harder and drier?

Ronnie had the most shredded glutes in Olympia history, his conditioning owns Dorian.


Dorian was NEVER balanced

don't EVER use complete in the same sentence as him.
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 12:36:20 PM
you're ridiculous.

How is dorian harder and drier?

Ronnie had the most shredded glutes in Olympia history, his conditioning owns Dorian.


It is rather telling that while others have typically debated on the basis of the better back, you instead focus upon Ronnie's glutes.  A big fan, are ya?  ;)
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 12:41:00 PM
It is rather telling that while others have typically debated on the basis of the better back, you instead focus upon Ronnie's glutes.  A big fan, are ya?  ;)

Since you trolls focus so much on "conditioning and dryness", shredded glutes are the ultimate sign of conditioning
and Ronnie had the best pair, THAT is a FACT and NOT debateable  ;)

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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 12:46:07 PM
Since you trolls focus so much on "conditioning and dryness", shredded glutes are the ultimate sign of conditioning
and Ronnie had the best pair, THAT is a FACT and NOT debateable  ;)



In other words, Ronnie's back could be holding water, and you wouldn't even notice.  Gotcha. ;)
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 12:53:56 PM
In other words, Ronnie's back could be holding water, and you wouldn't even notice.  Gotcha. ;)

the place where you see people holding water is the glute hamstring area, you people are hopeless to think yates was better than coleman
even for a split second  ;)

I'm sure yates had enough water in those skin folds  :-X
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 01:08:37 PM
exactly. If they want to nominate off-stage versions of Dorian, then 02 BFTO Ronnie is still better.




Better at what? looking like soft & mismatched ? if that's the case Ronnie wins

these are undeniable facts that you will never be able to change , Ronnie was NEVER has or as dry as Dorian.

another fact Neo is the heavier Ronnie became the worse his density & dryness became , which is exactly why his two best showing for conditioning are at his lightest 1998 Mr Olympia where he was 247 pounds and 2001 Arnold Classic at 247 pounds MAX

here is a quote from Peter McGough pointing this fact out

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


See a pattern here? the heavier Ronnie becomes the more his density & dryness suffer , now when you type that Ronnie in the screencaps you posted is better it's most certainly NOT from a density & dryness standpoint

Now lets move on to balance & proportion , like density & hardness this suffers as well the heavier Ronnie became this is a fact , the heavier Ronnie became the more his quads dwarfed his calves , the bigger his triceps/biceps became the more evident his forearms weren't proportionate , same goes with his glutes that stick out and can actually be seen from the front , it's no wonder why 2001/1998 are considered his primes showings for the above mentioned reasons

Now this is not factoring the other parts of balance & proportion such as torso length , arm length in relation to the torso , leg length , upper & lower body balance , etc

Here is a quote from Wayne Demilla

Wayne Demilla " I've said to Ronnie , " What you've got to realize is that in 98-99 you were probably in the best proportion you could be for your frame . Those muscles have gotten bigger. Just cos you're bigger , doesn't make you better . "

Stating exactly what I'm talking about , now out of the two Dorian has clearly better balance & proportion , in fact when asked directly about if he could beat Ronnie he said that he his better conditioned and better balanced he would know what to look for considering he's an IFBB judge

Here is Dorian on the topic of his balance & proportion

[ Q ] What were some of your better physical qualities as a bodybuilder, do you think?


Obviously I carried a lot of muscle mass and my trademark was to come into a show in super hard condition. I think my muscles had a certain quality and density from all the years of heavy training that a lot of guys didn't have.



One thing that I think people underrated me on - it was never really mentioned because of my sheer physical size and condition - was my balance and proportion. Not only from muscle group to muscle group, but from upper body to lower body. My skeletal structure and everything else was there and in good balance.


You underrate him on this as does a LOT of people ( In never did ) now let me add this concerns Dorian at his best , obviously you can post pics of him not looking exactly great in this department , but since we're talking about respective bests Dorian's balance & proportion is outstanding

Now here is a quote from another IFBB judge clearly confirming what I always said and what Dorian is talking about


Bev Francis : Bodybuilder's phsyique you most admire ?

The man Dorian Yates , his combonation of size and shape makes for an awesome physique , unlike a lot of big guys he's not a load of massive parts just thrown together , His symmetry is almost perfect , Everything is in proportion , no weak bodyparts .


It's clear cut Dorian is harder & drier than Ronnie Coleman ANY year never mind in these pics and it's also clear cut Dorian has better balance & proportion ANY year never mind in these pics. So when you type he's better these are four areas he's clearly NOT better


Lets move on shall we? what's left? Muscular Bulk , now Ronnie I believe in these pics was 275 pounds or maybe more now this really isn't an advantage and why? it's not a dense and super dry 275 or more. And Dorian is 269 pounds and he's harder & drier has better balance & proportion so the extra bulk advantage is null & void and why? because all rounds are physique rounds meaning that ALL of the criteria is applied at once in every single pose from every single angle , now Ronnie might meet part of this criteria better than Dorian ( lets say muscular bulk ) however he doesn't meet ALL of the criteria better than Dorian

Moving right along let get to posing & presentation , another clear advantage for Dorian , while neither is a great technical poser in the Makkawy , Labrada , Paris vane , Dorian is simply a better technical poser . He hit his mandatory poses effectively and accurately now you have to factor this in as well because all rounds are physique rounds

When all is said and done , Dorian simply meets the judging criteria better than Ronnie and you can substitute ANY year Ronnie you'd like and ALL of these advantages for Dorian still apply , he is still harder & drier , has better balance & proportion and depending on the year carries more muscular bulk , combine that with his advantage in posing & presentation and here is exactly why Dorian is better than Ronnie and would beat him in a contest

do you see how that's done Neo? unlike you I didn't just say " He's better " no blanket statement needed , I provided the facts , I backed up my statements , I presented a cognizant , coherent , argument based on how professional contests are judged using the Official I.F.B.B. criteria

You have and no one else has been able to counter this argument and never have and never will.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 01:09:57 PM
Since you trolls focus so much on "conditioning and dryness", shredded glutes are the ultimate sign of conditioning
and Ronnie had the best pair, THAT is a FACT and NOT debateable  ;)



Not true , Ronnie has shredded glutes many times while being soft everywhere else .
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 01:17:22 PM
It is telling that the Coleman partisans continually feel compelled to go on the attack against Dorian.  What are you afraid of? 
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:19:25 PM
It is telling that the Coleman partisans continually feel compelled to go on the attack against Dorian.  What are you afraid of? 

.... ::)

It is telling that the Dorian partisans continually feel compelled to go on the attack against Ronnie. What are you afraid of?
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 01:26:01 PM
.... ::)

It is telling that the Dorian partisans continually feel compelled to go on the attack against Ronnie. What are you afraid of?

Nothing at all.  Dorian's physique speaks for itself and stands the test of time.  I just find it satisfying exposing the hypocrisy and flaws in the conspiracy theories tauted by the Coleman faithful, as they try, and fail, to denigrate the most dominant champion of all time.  Keep in mind, that the very thread within which you try to do so, was not created by, but addressed specifically to both ND and I.  We get singled out because we have gotten into the troll's heads.  The Coleman trolls launched an offensive in a new thread to attack Dorian because their case doesn't hold water, although judging by photos, Ronnie's back most certainly does.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 01:26:47 PM
It is telling that the Coleman partisans continually feel compelled to go on the attack against Dorian.  What are you afraid of? 

The truth lol they're afraid of the truth . see these guys look at Ronnie purely from a fans prospective , they see a small waist , he's massive , big arms , and that's what they think is bodybuilding and should win every contest , now when one examines how contests are judged it takes more than that and that's Dorian

They like to think Dorian should never even be mentioned in the same sentence with Ronnie but it absolutely KILLS Them that Ronnie has said publicly he couldn't beat Dorian on multiple times , there is a very good reason Ronnie feels this way lol

If we were all as crazy as they claim and there is absolutely NO contest between the two then the Truce Thread would have NEVER been 1600+ pages , they would feel a compulsion to follow me around like lost puppies , to rehash the same argument , this alone proves they fear Dorian as well and I was right all along .
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:31:36 PM
Nothing at all.  Dorian's physique speaks for itself and stands the test of time.  I just find it satisfying exposing the hypocrisy and flaws in the conspiracy theories tauted by the Coleman faithful, as they try, and fail, to denigrate the most dominant champion of all time.  Keep in mind, that the very thread within which you try to do so, was not created by, but addressed specifically to both ND and I.  The Coleman trolls launched an offensive in a new thread to attack Dorian because their case doesn't hold water, although judging by photos, Ronnie's back most certainly does.

there is no point in debating with you guys, no matter what you're blind and will say Dorian looks better for some reason.

We let the pics do the talking, you should do the same  :)

by the way, did you post a picture in response to Ronnie's?

I didn't think so, since dorian had no arms, chest, or shoulders, and his quad sweep and hamstrings were nothing compared to Ronnie's :D
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 01:32:12 PM
  First of all, Peter McGough has mentioned that he believes that any version of Ronnie above 245 lbs would look soft next to a 269 lbs Dorian, so you choosing off-season shots of Ronnie to compare to Dorian's black&whites is retarded. The real issue is whether 269 lbs Dorian would be equally conditioned as 257 lbs Ronnie. If Dorian's conditioning is equal or superior like McGough says, then it's over. We would need to see Dorian under the special lights that Ronnie was at the 1999 Olympia to make n accurate comparison. Secondly, you can't compare those off-season shots of Ronnie to Dorian in the black&whites because Dorian and Ronnie also are under diferent lights and the photos were taken with different cameras, etc. Too many variables for us to know. If Ronnie only has the conditioning of Dorian at 269 lbs when he's 245 lbs, then Dorian wins flat out: Dorian in the famous black&whites would be bigger and harder than Ronnie 1999.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

  I would really like if one of the Coleman trolls addressed this post of mine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 01:36:38 PM
there is no point in debating with you guys, no matter what you're blind and will say Dorian looks better for some reason.

We let the pics do the talking, you should do the same  :)

by the way, did you post a picture in response to Ronnie's?

I didn't think so, since dorian had no arms, chest, or shoulders, and his quad sweep and hamstrings were nothing compared to Ronnie's :D

The video of 1995 Dorian exposes all of your flawed logic as well as Ronnie's flawed physique.  Everytime it gets posted the trolls scrambled for cover.  They stoop to posting photos as a misdirect from the truth.  The trolls can't handle the truth.  Particularly, if the debate centers around conditioning, NO ONE can compete with 1995 Dorian.  NO ONE!  Post all of the photos you wish, it doesn't change the truth or the straight firsts wins, or a near 90% overall career winning percentage.
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:40:07 PM
 I would really like if one of the Coleman trolls addressed this post of mine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE


oh yes the light makes a HUGE difference  ::)

how does it make up for Dorian's lack of muscle size, cuts and separations, structure, vascularity
and over all freakiness?

Dorian = OWNED
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:45:04 PM
The video of 1995 Dorian exposes all of your flawed logic as well as Ronnie's flawed physique.  Everytime it gets posted the trolls scrambled for cover.  They stoop to posting photos as a misdirect from the truth.  The trolls can't handle the truth.  Particularly, if the debate centers around conditioning, NO ONE can compete with 1995 Dorian.  NO ONE!  Post all of the photos you wish, it doesn't change the truth or the straight firsts wins, or a near 90% overall career winning percentage.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you got that backwards, everytime a video of Ronnie get's posted you guys run behind the cover of "Photoshop"
NO ONE can touch Yates when it came to conditioning?   :D ;)
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 01:45:40 PM

oh yes the light makes a HUGE difference  ::)

how does it make up for Dorian's lack of muscle size, cuts and separations, structure, vascularity
and over all freakiness?

Dorian = OWNED

  Lighting makes a huge difference. Why do you think the promoters of top shows even bother hiring stage lighting specialists, dumbass? Why do you think professional photographers bother adjusting all the lights around the oject/person to be photographed? Dorian is carrying less subcutaneous fat and has superior symmetry in the famous back&whites compared to Coleman in the pics you're comparing him to. This is obvious. But then, you're not really here to argue seriously but simply to troll. ;)

  MemberX = Owned

SUCKMYMUSCLE
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 01:47:40 PM
 I would really like if one of the Coleman trolls addressed this post of mine.

SUCKMYMUSCLE

Well that makes sense lol they don't have any to address it with , factor in camera technology moved leaps & bounds by the time Ronnie was competing , the fact that Dorian looks leaps & bounds better than he does it person , that they're ignorant on what great conditioning is and isn't etc

these guys are comfortable winning with skewed comparisons , pics of Ronnie at his best and Dorian not , pictures of Dorian with a waist just as narrow as Ronnie and Ronnie with calves just as big lol no wonder why they think Ronnie is untouchable
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 01:47:52 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
you got that backwards, everytime a video of Ronnie get's posted you guys run behind the cover of "Photoshop"
NO ONE can touch Yates when it came to conditioning?   :D ;)

Perhaps you should choose an example from the living. lol I'm not certain that that could be held up as any kind of standard, if in the end it kills you.  It is also a mute point if the physique fails to have the requisite mass and completeness to go along with it.  No one had a better combination of complete conditioned development as Yates, no one. Nice try though.  Keep grasping at straws. ;)
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:50:37 PM


hahahahahahaha
leave it to the Dorian trolls to run to lighting or photoshop as an excuse for Ronnie beating Dorian
there is nothing to argue about, Ronnie is simply better than Dorian, the entire bodybuilding industry knows this, only ND & CO don't
and your own hero Dorian owned you and said you live in your mom's basements  ;D

SUCKMYPENIS
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 01:52:52 PM
Perhaps you should choose an example from the living. lol I'm not certain that that could be held up as any kind of standard, if in the end it kills you.  Nice try though.  Keep grasping at straws. ;)

did Dorian have a muscle called Rectus Femoris?

here is what it looks like, please show me where it is on Yates
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 01:54:53 PM

hahahahahahaha
leave it to the Dorian trolls to run to lighting or photoshop as an excuse for Ronnie beating Dorian
there is nothing to argue about, Ronnie is simply better than Dorian, the entire bodybuilding industry knows this, only ND & CO don't
and your own hero Dorian owned you and said you live in your mom's basements  ;D

SUCKMYPENIS

If you're so confident in your hero, why such vigor to disprove another champion.  You Coleman trolls are insecure and weak minded people.  ND and I are in your heads.  You trolls have to create seperate threads addressed directly to us to try get our attention to continue a debate that you've already lost. lol  
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 01:56:33 PM
did Dorian have a muscle called Rectus Femoris?

here is what it looks like, please show me where it is on Yates

 ;)

Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
Hey ND, isn't it ironic that Dorian, as confirmed by the pics you posted, was able to come in dry as the desert, yet Big Bubba, even with a noted Guru, seemed to always be holding water? 
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 02:10:03 PM
Hey ND, isn't it ironic that Dorian, as confirmed by the pics you posted, was able to come in dry as the desert, yet Big Bubba, even with a noted Guru, seemed to always be holding water? 

it's genetic and what funny is only at his lightest could Ronnie be hard ^ dry Dorian could maintain that for massive amounts size

watch Ronnie , 1998 hard & dry , 1999 8 pounds heavier and already his conditioning is suffering , 2000 264 pounds and way off from 1998 , 2001 Arnold classic drops back down to 247 pounds and he's hard & dry 2002 OH BOY lol 2003 he goes back up and boom soft again

Chad fucked him up and Flex among others
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: sculpture on December 05, 2008, 02:10:14 PM
Well that makes sense lol they don't have any to address it with , factor in camera technology moved leaps & bounds by the time Ronnie was competing , the fact that Dorian looks leaps & bounds better than he does it person , that they're ignorant on what great conditioning is and isn't etc

these guys are comfortable winning with skewed comparisons , pics of Ronnie at his best and Dorian not , pictures of Dorian with a waist just as narrow as Ronnie and Ronnie with calves just as big lol no wonder why they think Ronnie is untouchable

OMG!!!

Please, please tell me you aren't serious and are now claiming that "advances" in technology are the reason why ronnie looks so much better????

You've truly sunk to an all time low. Wait until the rest of the board gets wind of this cracker.

If dorian looks "leaps and bounds better" in person so does everyone else.

Ronnie looks better than dorian in both film and video (i'll ignore your pathetic excuse for "technology"

Ronnie looks far better in person than dorian

Please, for the sake of this board either accept it or at the very least keep your subversions to yourself.
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 02:16:03 PM
Hey ND, isn't it ironic that Dorian, as confirmed by the pics you posted, was able to come in dry as the desert, yet Big Bubba, even with a noted Guru, seemed to always be holding water? 

Quote
it's genetic and what funny is only at his lightest could Ronnie be hard ^ dry Dorian could maintain that for massive amounts size

watch Ronnie , 1998 hard & dry , 1999 8 pounds heavier and already his conditioning is suffering , 2000 264 pounds and way off from 1998 , 2001 Arnold classic drops back down to 247 pounds and he's hard & dry 2002 OH BOY lol 2003 he goes back up and boom soft again

Chad fucked him up and Flex among others


Always funny to watch getbig's biggest laughing stock and gimmick carry on a conversation. :D

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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 02:17:09 PM


Ronnie looks far better in person than dorian



QFT
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Post by: Hulkster on December 05, 2008, 02:21:13 PM
OMG!!!

Please, please tell me you aren't serious and are now claiming that "advances" in technology are the reason why ronnie looks so much better????

You've truly sunk to an all time low. Wait until the rest of the board gets wind of this cracker.

If dorian looks "leaps and bounds better" in person so does everyone else.

Ronnie looks better than dorian in both film and video (i'll ignore your pathetic excuse for "technology"

Ronnie looks far better in person than dorian

Please, for the sake of this board either accept it or at the very least keep your subversions to yourself.

hahahahaha ND and his trolls have sunk to a new all time low in their pathetic quest for excuses why Ronnie kills dorian.


 ::)

if dorian knew about you two, he would be thoroughly ashamed and embarassed..
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 02:26:05 PM
hahahahaha ND and his trolls have sunk to a new all time low in their pathetic quest for excuses why Ronnie kills dorian.


 ::)

if dorian knew about you two, he would be thoroughly ashamed and embarassed..


Dorian Yates: ND lives at home in his mother's basement

ROFL that's true  ;D
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Post by: Hulkster on December 05, 2008, 02:28:42 PM
why is this being debated again? ???

oh, and ND, here is the loose skin you claim doesn't exist, but in actual fact, its fucking everywhere..
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 02:28:57 PM
Dorian Yates: ND lives at home in his mother's basement

ROFL that's true  ;D

Ronnie Coleman:  "Why is that MemberX guy staring at my ass again". lol
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 02:36:26 PM
OMG!!!

Please, please tell me you aren't serious and are now claiming that "advances" in technology are the reason why ronnie looks so much better????

You've truly sunk to an all time low. Wait until the rest of the board gets wind of this cracker.

If dorian looks "leaps and bounds better" in person so does everyone else.

Ronnie looks better than dorian in both film and video (i'll ignore your pathetic excuse for "technology"

Ronnie looks far better in person than dorian

Please, for the sake of this board either accept it or at the very least keep your subversions to yourself.

Whoa clam down , first of all Ronnie looks better than Dorian TO YOU and a lot of other people , when I first started coming on BB message boards there were almost non very good quality pics of Dorian , I scanned MOST of the good ones myself so there have been many more , however technology plays a part in the many more HIGH QUALITY pictures of Ronnie than Dorian , camera technology has improved exponentially there is a HUGE difference between scanning a picture from a magazine and taking a digital picture and placing it on-line if you think otherwise you'd be sorely mistaken ( not the first time )

and NO the claim that everyone looks better in real life doesn't apply , sorry wrong again

Peter McGough Flex Magazine May 2002

Let it be said that the camera can lie at physique contests. Some guys look great onstage but not so great on final film (Dorian Yates, for one) and vice versa (Shawn Ray is an example).  


consider yourself corrected , now Dorian would look better in real life for many reasons , he has fair skin which film can wash out NOT a problem for black athletes , camera technology is another reason , film ( and video ) big difference between a magazine scan and a digital image in hi-resolution you can't argue on the contrary


Now I'll posts quotes specific to this topic of Dorian looking much better than pics & video from many differing sources



JohnnyTosh GetBig 12-20-07

Hulkster, I have one question for you? .... Were you there in Long Beach in 97?  Because I was.  AND I was there in 93 & 95 in Atlanta & 96 in Chicago.  It's been said a million times. Yates has a Thickness & density from every angle that had to be seen in person, and that NOBODY else had.

I think Milos is awesome. I would LOVE to have his body, but Yates smoked everybody in the totality of ALL poses.  From the side & from the back, yates crushed everybody.

Unless you were there, you cannot really say accurately.  BTW, Demilia gave me tickets right behind the judges every year.

Not flaming, but Yates reigned supreme.. YES. HIS GUT was sticking out in 97 & Nasser looked as good, or maybe a hair better from the front in 97, but when they turned to the side & rear, DORIAN ruled again.


While I’m on record as saying that the best physique I ever saw was Ronnie’s at the 2001 Arnold, he was never drier or harder than Dorian. In fact now that – 14 years after it happened – I recently for the first time saw the video of Dorian posing before the 1993 Olympia I have cause to rethink. I’m now not sure that Ronnie at 245 pounds would beat Dorian at 269 pounds. At a bigger bodyweight I think Ronnie would look soft next to an in-shape rock-hard Dorian.

On the subject of conditioning, no-one did it better than Dorian. He achieved a hardness and dryness (without losing fullness) that nobody has ever matched. In the flesh he looked even harder than he did in photos. It was like a statue made of granite was standing in front of you.


Flex magazine Jan 1992 on Dorian Yates

" Dorian has the type of physique that looks much better and more powerfull in person than photos. I personally saw him onstage , and Yates if definitely light years ahead of the way he looks in photos.




MuscleMag International Feb 1994 on Dorian Yates at the 1993 Mr Olympia


" He's huge , absolutely HUGE ...he's ripped completely RIPPED. And while he's not in possession of the prettiest physique body by a long shot , he's equipped with all the bodyparts you need to win .

Combine this with the fact that he's 10 TIMES more impressive when you see him onstage at the Olympia than he is in pictures or on videos and you got yourself a winner.


" Chris Cormier standing next to Dorian onstage he sensed ' radiation coming off him , like an aura. ' The power of that muscle was tangible. It exerted a force all of its own.  Cormier thought ' I might as well forget about this guy and concentrate on being second. ' There was something else , too , strange. You had to witness him in the flesh. such granite hardness had a property that could nor be held on film or caught on paper. You had to see it live


Dorian Yates : BB.com - Some physiques you can't judge from a photograph; you have to be there.

Everyone who sees my physique in person always comments on how much better I look in person than in pictures.


I mean shall I continue? I always ask the other Coleman fans when they say the same applies to everyone to avalanche me with all the quotes that say Ronnie looks so much better in person , they post ONE , one that says his SIZE has to be seen in person

so once again you're wrong

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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 02:37:20 PM
Ronnie Coleman:  "Why is that MemberX guy staring at my ass again". lol

Ronnie Coleman: why are these Dorian trolls so blind
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 02:41:17 PM
why is this being debated again? ???

oh, and ND, here is the loose skin you claim doesn't exist, but in actual fact, its fucking everywhere..

NO loose skin kid , don't mistake a wrinkle for loose skin , any loose skin in the lower back would be clearly evident in other poses , again where is the magic loose skin that disappears from one pose to the next?  ???


FYI ALL are from the same contests
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 02:45:24 PM
Ronnie Coleman: why are these Dorian trolls so blind
(In reference to Dorian) "NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost." Consider yourself OWNED! LMFAO
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 02:54:39 PM
(In reference to Dorian) "NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost." Consider yourself OWNED! LMFAO

same old bullshit that you and ND have posted 2000000000 times
my response is still the same as last time, come up with something new  hahahaha
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 02:58:39 PM
same old bullshit that you and ND have posted 2000000000 times
my response is still the same as last time, come up with something new  hahahaha

Your response is " I can't respond intelligently so I'll just make blanket statements and ad hominem attacks "

the tactics of the intellectually bankrupt , ask congress to bail you out.  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 03:09:52 PM
Perhaps the Coleman trolls should start another seperate thread addressed to ND and I.  Maybe they'll have better luck on that one. lol  ;)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 03:13:32 PM
Perhaps the Coleman trolls should start another seperate thread addressed to ND and I.  Maybe they'll have better luck on that one. lol  ;)

I love how we're so out of our minds think Dorian could beat Ronnie but they wont stop rehashing it lol prove they know Dorian is better
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Post by: Hulkster on December 05, 2008, 03:46:01 PM
Quote
any loose skin in the lower back would be clearly evident in other poses

but it IS you fucking moron!:


 ::)

dorians loose skin was EVERYWHERE in all kinds of poses:

deal with it moron:
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Post by: TBUNZEE on December 05, 2008, 03:53:15 PM
Give up on the debate already its been done to death months ago....did you guys not have like over a 1000 posts from the last one and really got nowhere with it...lost cause....
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Post by: Hulkster on December 05, 2008, 04:13:31 PM
it wasnt over 1000 posts.

it 1600 pages lol

ND was losing so badly he quit well before it got that long though.

as you can see with this thread, its not hard to see why he was losing

ND denies things that are shown in dozens and dozens of pics (eg his claim dorian had no loose skin lol ::))

Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Miss Demeanor on December 05, 2008, 04:24:03 PM
Dorian trolls, go away your hero sucked ass


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo394.jpg)

That's the thing.  Dorian didn't "suck ass."  When he wasn't injured, he was amazing.  Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

Same for Ronnie:  when he hit his peak, he was amazing.  Anyone who denies that is also a moron.

This Ronnie and Dorian thing is getting REALLY old :(
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Post by: upjacked on December 05, 2008, 04:57:15 PM
That's the thing.  Dorian didn't "suck ass."  When he wasn't injured, he was amazing.  Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

Same for Ronnie:  when he hit his peak, he was amazing.  Anyone who denies that is also a moron.

This Ronnie and Dorian thing is getting REALLY old :(

the point is that both at their best ....Ronnie wins  :)
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 05:14:03 PM
the point is that both at their best ....Ronnie wins  :)

It's not even close, winning's being polite. ;) Anyone who just says they're both great's spinning the BS and staying politically correcti. It's not at all objective.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 05:45:23 PM
It's not even close, winning's being polite. ;) Anyone who just says they're both great's spinning the BS and staying politically correcti. It's not at all objective.

Ronnie Coleman on Dorian yates: DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

pumpster the dummy owned by his own hero
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 06:02:55 PM
Ronnie Coleman on Dorian yates: DESCRIBE DORIAN YATES: A close friend. Dorian is very intelligent, a great Mr. Olympia. He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen.

pumpster the dummy owned by his own hero

ROFLMAO!!!!!!! dorian the best side chest pose?
COMMON ND and you take what this man says seriously?  ;D
I said he was the best bodybuilder, I never said he was the smartest guy around
BWAHAHAHAHAHA he had the best side chest pose
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 06:08:08 PM
ROFLMAO!!!!!!! dorian the best side chest pose?
COMMON ND and you take what this man says seriously?  ;D
I said he was the best bodybuilder, I never said he was the smartest guy around
BWAHAHAHAHAHA he had the best side chest pose

Is everything you type a blanket statemnt? do you ever commit do explaining your opinion in detail and objective fashion? you're fitting right in with these idiots on here
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
Side chest pose


  ;D LOL ;D
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 06:13:54 PM
Is everything you type a blanket statemnt? do you ever commit do explaining your opinion in detail and objective fashion? you're fitting right in with these idiots on here


is this better?  :-*


(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo663.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/100/images/Dorian_Yates_photo115.jpg)
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 06:17:37 PM

is this better?  :-*



No , not better than this  ;)
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 06:23:07 PM
ND don't tell me that now you think Dorian had a better side chest than Ronnie
you know Ronnie had the best side chest in history



(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo258.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo274.jpg)

(http://www.bodybuilding-pics.com/42/images/Ronnie_Coleman_photo530.jpg)
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 06:39:48 PM
meltdown, apparently everybody's eyes are deceiving them then
because in every picture Ronnie KILLS Dorian

post pictures of both in their prime and dorian would not win in any pose  ;)

He would win the ab/thigh and side tri
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:14:50 PM
2003 BFTO..............
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:17:07 PM
.....
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:19:01 PM
......
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:20:17 PM
F**cking huge beyond belief  :o
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:20:59 PM
2003 BFTO..............

huge & smooth terrible balance as well
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:21:22 PM
........
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:25:46 PM
huge & smooth terrible balance as well

He looks shredded from head (arms, delts, pecs, back, hams, quads, glutes, even his abs) to toe. What is so smooth?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:26:48 PM
He looks shredded from head (arms, delts, pecs, back, hams, quads, glutes, even his abs) to toe. What is so smooth?

shredded? compare that to 1998 and 2001 he's smooth and soft HUGE but his conditioning is lacking
Title: Re: THE PICTURE THAT NARC DIETY AND MR.1DERFUL NEVER HAVE..................
Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:28:23 PM
shredded? compare that to 1998 and 2001 he's smooth and soft HUGE but his conditioning is lacking

same old bullshit

ND seems to see what is not there
and doesn't see what is there

you can't argue with a blindman
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:30:13 PM
...,,,
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:30:25 PM
same old bullshit

ND seems to see what is not there
and doesn't see what is there

you can't argue with a blindman


harder more detailed , see that?
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:31:11 PM
...,,,

His front latspread sucks it really does and on paper he should have a great one
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:32:55 PM
shredded? compare that to 1998 and 2001 he's smooth and soft HUGE but his conditioning is lacking

In your original post, you said he looks smooth. You have yet to say how and where he looks smooth. Now you jump and compare him to his 98 and 01 condition. LOL
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:34:39 PM
In your original post, you said he looks smooth. You have yet to say how and where he looks smooth. Now you jump and compare him to his 98 and 01 condition. LOL

this is all he does, I don't know why he just can't accept Ronnie was better than Dorian.
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:36:06 PM

harder more detailed , see that?


I don't care what some retard writer says, I have eyes, I can judge for myself
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 07:36:15 PM
this is all he does, I don't know why he just can't accept Ronnie was better than Dorian.

Probably a real keener in HS debating class. A debating machine, just for the sake of debating-doesn't have to make sense.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:36:43 PM
In your original post, you said he looks smooth. You have yet to say how and where he looks smooth. Now you jump and compare him to his 98 and 01 condition. LOL
SMOOTH lacking muscle density especially in his back and he looks smooth compared to his really dense & dry showings 2001/1998 the muscle looks inflated and soft , you look at 2001 his skin looks like it has been shrink wrapped around pure muscle

it's no coincidence that at his best condition wise he was light under 250 pounds anything over that his density & dryness suffer this isn't up for debate it's a fact

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:37:05 PM
His front latspread sucks it really does


Start a thread about the above topic with that as the title ^^^^^^ and see how stupid that statement you just made will make you look
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:37:37 PM
I don't care what some retard writer says, I have eyes, I can judge for myself

yeah because you were onstage with him , you guys make it to easy
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:37:59 PM
Probably a real keener in HS debating class. A debating machine, just for the sake of debating-doesn't have to make sense.

debating even though he knows he is wrong, debating even though everybody else knows he is wrong, debating even though
visual evidence shows he is wrong, his high school debating team must have loved him.
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 07:39:21 PM
yeah because you were onstage with him , you guys make it to easy

are you saying that being on stage with somebody for couple of minutes makes you a better judge than looking over photos and videos
time and time again? LMAO
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:39:56 PM

Start a thread about the above topic with that as the title ^^^^^^ and see how stupid that statement you just made will make you look


Oh no ignorant GetBig posters will think I'm ' stupid ' lol you're to simple Bizzy opps I mean iceman

His front latspread sucks compared to Dorian , no balance & proportion , you can hardly see the lats , he's not even doing the pose correctly
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:40:24 PM
SMOOTH lacking muscle density especially in his back and he looks smooth compared to his really dense & dry showings 2001/1998 the muscle looks inflated and soft , you look at 2001 his skin looks like it has been shrink wrapped around pure muscle

it's no coincidence that at his best condition wise he was light under 250 pounds anything over that his density & dryness suffer this isn't up for debate it's a fact

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .


I agree that at a lower weight he is more shredded, but a man that is 300 pounds and that shredded has not been equalled, EVER.
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:41:13 PM
are you saying that being on stage with somebody for couple of minutes makes you a better judge than looking over photos and videos
time and time again? LMAO

I'm saying your opinion is GARBAGE compared to someone who has seen them live & in person while all you have is pics and ignorance
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:42:01 PM
I agree that at a lower weight he is more shredded, but a man that is 300 pounds and that shredded has not been equalled, EVER.

He does have good conditioning for that weight however it still sucks in comparison to his best showings
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Post by: pumpster on December 05, 2008, 07:42:18 PM

Start a thread about the above topic with that as the title ^^^^^^ and see how stupid that statement you just made will make you look



HAHAH the voices inside the head prevent self-awareness let alone appreciation of irony.
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Post by: Iceman1981 on December 05, 2008, 07:47:41 PM
Oh no ignorant GetBig posters will think I'm ' stupid ' lol you're to simple Bizzy opps I mean iceman

His front latspread sucks compared to Dorian , no balance & proportion , you can hardly see the lats , he's not even doing the pose correctly

You actually believe that shyt?

Stop jumping from topic to topic and start a thread already with the statement you made. Is that too hard?

hardly see the lats? LOL
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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:49:59 PM
You actually beleive that shyt?

Stop jumping from topic to topic and start a thread already with the statement you made. Is that too hard?

hardly see the lats? LOL

So your response is to post a different year  ::) I was specifically speaking about the front latspread you posted above and yes for someone with such a wide back and narrow waist & hips you can hardly see his lats especially at that weight when his back is at it's widest

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Post by: NarcissisticDeity on December 05, 2008, 07:51:58 PM
You actually believe that shyt?

Stop jumping from topic to topic and start a thread already with the statement you made. Is that too hard?

hardly see the lats? LOL

this is Dorian and he's not even a pro yet and look at the staggering difference in lat-sweep and how much of the lats you can actually see in the front latspread
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 08:02:41 PM
He would win the ab/thigh and side tri

  And front lat spread, as well as the back double biceps by virtue of his superior hardness and definiton with better overral balance and almost equivlent thickness. Ronnie 2003 could win the back lat spread by virtue of his greater width despite his horrible symmetry in this pose -huge ass, no calves and inferior lower back. Dorian would also win the side and back relaxed by virue of his smaller gut and less muscles lacking. Ronnie would win the front relaxed by virtue of greater width and superior taper. Overral, Dorian 95' is a clear wiinner over Ronnie 2003.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: Camel Jockey on December 05, 2008, 08:06:58 PM
 ::)
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Post by: suckmymuscle on December 05, 2008, 08:09:30 PM


  Oh, wow, the roll eyes emoticon. You have just proved me wrong right there. The simple fact is that everything I just wrote in my post is undeniable.

SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Post by: England_1 on December 05, 2008, 08:11:02 PM
Ronnie looks like shit here. Loose skin over the obliques, huge layer of water over the midsection and non-existent lats

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250880.0;attach=291236;image)
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Post by: England_1 on December 05, 2008, 08:12:44 PM
Nobody has EVER had lats like this. Jesus  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250880.0;attach=291237;image)
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Post by: Mr.1derful on December 05, 2008, 08:19:41 PM
When the unseen Yates pic is finally revealed, the Coleman trolls will be in the corner in a fetal position, sucking their thumbs.  It will decimate ANYTHING Ronnie has ever shown.  Just wait!
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Post by: ASJChaotic on December 05, 2008, 08:22:48 PM
Nobody has EVER had lats like this. Jesus  :o

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=250880.0;attach=291237;image)


notice how the angle is different?

front last spread looks much more impressive from a down angle
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Post by: Gino30 on December 06, 2008, 02:51:07 AM
hahahahhaa, predictable, same answer every time "what about the calves?" ::)

Hows maggie?....is she happy or sad?

Are you still paying Derrick off?