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maybe old news but
anyone heard about the american whore who shot an elephant dead with a bow?
American Kills Elephant With Bow For A Bet
2:12pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
An American woman has slaughtered an elephant with a bow and arrow... to win a bet.
The Texas-born hunter killed the elephant with a single shot
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman was so proud, she posted pictures on the internet showing her beaming beside her kill in Zimbabwe.
The 39-year-old huntress said she crept into a herd of 37 elephants, knelt down, and shot the grand creature from just 12 yards.
It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.
Ms Groenewald-Hagerman is the first woman known to have killed an elephant with a bow and arrow.
The Kansas-born woman slaughtered the animal to win a bet with a male friend who said she would be unable to pull the heavy bow required.
For eight months she worked out for four hours a day so she could pull a £450 PSE X Force bow.
The lethal weapon has a 'draw weight' of 90lb - more than twice the amount pulled by female olympic archers.
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman
On the hunting website Hunts of a Lifetime Ms Groenewald-Hagerman wrote: "A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow.
"He indicated only one or two women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge."
The blonde has received praise from other hunters in online posts.
One blogger on texasbowhunter.com described her as: "Stunning looking, and a (sic) avid hunter.
"Her shot was made at 12 yards and the Bull traveled (sic) 500 yards before going down. 500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull.:) (sic)", Africanbowhunter said.
Another called BO-N-ARO wrote: "12 yards!!! I bet they had a great blood trail because of the low entry!! She had to have been shooting UP! That has to be one of the best examples of setting a goal and working hard to achieve it!"
The last person known to have killed an elephant with a bow was a man called Howard Hill, 60 years ago. It has rarely been attempted since.
Hunting elephants for sport is not illegal in some parts of Africa and many tour companies allow tourists to join organised hunting trips.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Elephant-Shot-With-Bow-And-Arrow-American-Huntress-Teressa-Groenewald-Hagerman-Killed-It-For-A-Bet/Article/200905115277040 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Elephant-Shot-With-Bow-And-Arrow-American-Huntress-Teressa-Groenewald-Hagerman-Killed-It-For-A-Bet/Article/200905115277040)
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what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.
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europeans are warriors, hunters... im proud of her.
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seriously, that's great. a woman killing an elephant with one shot of a bow and arrow, must take some skill
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so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
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Sarah Palin approved
so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
Exactly! It's not like the animal was going to live forever, otherwise. Good for her - although, I'm sure some of the New age animal right activists are going to kick up a stink over this one, blowing it all out of proportion.
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so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
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Schmoes will like her arms, I'm sure.
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europeans are warriors, hunters... im proud of her.
So you are proud of a woman who killed a elephant because of a bet?
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so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
Plus, she did it with bow and arrow...a true hunter.
This bitch is definitely a GetBigger.
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Yeah, she walked up to an elephant that was just standing there and shot it point-blank
. what a cock sucking whore, they should let a male elephant fuck her to death
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what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.
The things you would do? You can't do anything of consequence to that "little" punk, it's already dead!
She already killed it Mars, it wasn't hurt or just out-cold, it's dead!
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So you are proud of a woman who killed a elephant because of a bet?
and she fed 500 of your fellow tribe members.
elephants are killing people in india by the 1000s and ddestroying crops, where's the sympathy for them?
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She deserves to have prisoners with AIDS run a train on her for hours.
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So you are proud of a woman who killed a elephant because of a bet?
The bet really has nothing to do with it.
Wouldn't you agree that it's more of a 'challenge' to hunt with bow than to hunt with an assault rifle?
We're at the top of the food chain. If people wish to look upon her with disdain for posing proudly next to her kill, then we should hold bass fishermen to the same standard...the difference being that the animal she felled provided food for the people who lived in that region.
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what a cock sucking whore, they should let a male elephant fuck her
She honestly looks like she can handle and even enjoy it, lol!
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The bet really has nothing to do with it.
Would you agree that it's more of a 'challenge' to hunt with bow than to hunt with an assault rifle?
We're at the top of the food chain. If people wish to look upon her with disdain for posing proudly next to her kill, then we should hold bass fishermen to the same standard.
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Yeah, she walked up to an elephant that was just standing there and shot it point-blank
. what a cock sucking whore, they should let a male elephant fuck her to death
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so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
hahahaha elephants are an endangered species you clown.
yes she is amazing killing a helpless animal for a bet.
i hope she feels the same when somebody bets they can kill her with a bow and arrow or bets they can rape her and get away with it.
stupid bint should never have left the kitchen either. >:(
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well only the fact she enjoyed killing an innocent animal and posed proud for pictures with her feet on the animal alone makes it a disgusting and disrespectfull act.
if she killed it with bare hands i could somehow have respect for it.
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hahahaha elephants are an endangered species you clown.
yes she is amazing killing a helpless animal for a bet.
i hope she feels the same when somebody bets they can kill her with a bow and arrow or bets they can rape her and get away with it.
stupid bint should never have left the kitchen either. >:(
zimbabweans are an endangered species
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wheres the pride in killing an animl that isn't a predator ???
its like killing a cow then taking a pic ike you are so proud ???
the thing just stood there as it has no intent to hurt or kill.
lets see her kill a lion with her knife - then she can take a picture proudly.
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Diseased creatures like the girl from Texas, remind me of what sickness really is. Now I know I'm fine. Thank you diseased creature, for reaffirming that.
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zimbabweans are an endangered species
I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing.
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I don't really see the sport in shooting something from 12 yards away especially when it was probably desensitized to human presence.
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The bet really has nothing to do with it.
Wouldn't you agree that it's more of a 'challenge' to hunt with bow than to hunt with an assault rifle?
We're at the top of the food chain. If people wish to look upon her with disdain for posing proudly next to her kill, then we should hold bass fishermen to the same standard...the difference being that the animal she felled provided food for the people who lived in that region.
The challege was not to hunt with a bow, but the bet was that couldn't draw the bow and shoot a elephant. hell, just have a dummy elephant or a target and shoot that? There she drew bow, end of story.
That was a PR move to give the meat and you know it. Most sport fisherman release their catches. And they relish the fight, so that equilavent would be her leaping up on the dangeous animal or out manuevering it , just to jab it with a trank
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I don't really see the sport in shooting something from 12 yards away especially when it was probably desensitized to human presence.
You are never going to get into Sarah Palin's pants with that kinda attitude
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Reminds me of that Orwell essay Shoot the Elephant or whatever it was called.
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I don't really see the sport in shooting something from 12 yards away especially when it was probably desensitized to human presence.
Yep....the thing was probably looking at her while she was aiming
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I find bull "fighting" much worse.
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There is a special place in hell for people like her.
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I wouldn't say that's necessarily a bad thing.
hi grant michaels
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like she did it for the poor people of Zimbabwe hahaha.
its good that its not killed for nothing then ::)
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Hmm this thread title should include that it was a woman that killed the defenseless beast, might garner some more hate.
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I find bull "fighting" much worse.
its very sad things like that still exist.
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I find bull "fighting" much worse.
Hahaha OK "Eduardo Caroccio" ::)
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fucking stpupid...if she really wants to be true hunter, send her out there without any weapons or tools, make her create her own weapon out of what she finds, then have a go at the bull elephant. christ, killing what is basically a tame animal is like going to the zoo and shooting an animal in a cage.
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Thanks Mars. ;)
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I find bull "fighting" much worse.
I root for the Bull, especially when they get a real good gore to the pelvic or butt region. Tha shit ain't right, at least Bill Pickett showed them how to do it right and fair with Bulldogging
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hahahaha elephants are an endangered species you clown.
yes she is amazing killing a helpless animal for a bet.
i hope she feels the same when somebody bets they can kill her with a bow and arrow or bets they can rape her and get away with it.
stupid bint should never have left the kitchen either. >:(
Dont get lippy with me fat boy just because she killed your uncle.
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so she bought a license to kill an elephant from the Zimbabwe government, and gave the meat to feed 500 people. Elephant numbers like any other animal need to be controlled. Exactly what did she do wrong? Shes not a poacher that shot an illegal elephant who cut the tusks off for the ivory and then left the carcuss to rot. No harm, no foul I say!
exactly, people pay upto $50,000 to be able to get a kill and then a village or two come in and strip the carcass clean. nothing is wasted.
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Dont get lippy with me fat boy just because she killed your uncle.
;D :o >:(
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LMAO at some of the idiotic posts...I guess some of you didn't watch John Strossel's segment on endangered species on 20/20 last Friday night. Personally I love animals and I'm more than happy to let most of them share a place next to the mashed potatoes on my plate.
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LMAO at some of the idiotic posts...I guess some of you didn't watch John Strossel's segment on endangered species on 20/20 last Friday night. Personally I love animals and I'm more than happy to let most of them share a place next to the mashed potatoes on my plate.
8 Is Enough. No, I'm not talking about the tv show, I'm talking about your post count. Please stop posting.
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stupid bint should never have left the kitchen either. >:(
bint means "girl" in Arabic. how ironic.
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what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.
bets are, this stupid cu nt prolly did not eat the elephant afterwards....
i hope this POS never breeds and dies an early death...
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bets are, this stupid cu nt prolly did not eat the elephant afterwards....
i hope this POS never breeds and dies an early death...
I don't think you have to worry about that. She looks like an obvious lesbian.
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;D :o >:(
;D ;)
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bint means "girl" in Arabic. how ironic.
in what way ?
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exactly, people pay upto $50,000 to be able to get a kill and then a village or two come in and strip the carcass clean. nothing is wasted.
This is my understanding, too.
Parker - I'm going to accept the suggestion that the animals are desensitized to the presence of humans - which certainly takes away much of the 'sporting' aspect - but given that the elephant population has to be managed, what's inherently wrong with a process that puts cash and food in the hands and bellies of the locals?
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I don't think you have to worry about that. She looks like an obvious lesbian.
actually ..you r right!
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I just don't see the sport in this, at all. Whoopdy-fucking-do if you can kill a large defenseless animal with a weapon. At least she fed some villagers, however, so the animals night of pain and suffering wasn't totally in vain.
Have you seen the way tourists hunt lions? It is the sickest thing I can imagine - rich Americans and Europeans "hunt" lions (that have been bred in captivity) in a 20,000 square foot enclosure so the lions can't escape. Real fucking macho ::)
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Parker - I'm going to accept the suggestion that the animals are desensitized to the presence of humans - which certainly takes away much of the 'sporting' aspect - but given that the elephant population has to be managed, what's inherently wrong with a process that puts cash and food in the hands and bellies of the locals.
i at least, judge actions by intentions.
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I just don't see the sport in this, at all. Whoopdy-fucking-do if you can kill a large defenseless animal with a weapon. At least she fed some villagers, however, so the animals night of pain and suffering wasn't totally in vain.
thing is...she would have done the deed regardless of whether if there were poor villagers or not....
you think for a mili second she did it out of the goodness of her heart to feed the poor??
fuck no
she did it to prove some MAN wrong
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thing is...she would have done the deed regardless of whether if there were poor villagers or not....
you think for a mili second she did it out of the goodness of her heart to feed the poor??
fuck no
she did it to prove some MAN wrong
I don't think she did it out of the goodness of her heart at all. IMO her heart is lacking in the goodness department. There is no goodness in leaving an animal to suffer and die overnight because of a stupid and pointless bet.
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in what way ?
i just find it ironic that
bint= girl in Arabic
bint=bimbo in English
nothing to it, just a passing comment.
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i just find it ironic that
bint= girl in Arabic
bint=bimbo in English
nothing to it, just a passing comment.
cool, i didn't know that 8)
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I just don't see the sport in this, at all. Whoopdy-fucking-do if you can kill a large defenseless animal with a weapon. At least she fed some villagers, however, so the animals night of pain and suffering wasn't totally in vain.
Have you seen the way tourists hunt lions? It is the sickest thing I can imagine - rich Americans and Europeans "hunt" lions (that have been bred in captivity) in a 20,000 square foot enclosure so the lions can't escape. Real fucking macho ::)
exactly, if it were for the poor people they would have killed the animal themselves, i can understand people hunt to feed their children but this is on the purpose of stupid "entertainment".
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This is my understanding, too.
Parker - I'm going to accept the suggestion that the animals are desensitized to the presence of humans - which certainly takes away much of the 'sporting' aspect - but given that the elephant population has to be managed, what's inherently wrong with a process that puts cash and food in the hands and bellies of the locals.
Nothing is wrong with it. Fodd in their bellies and cash in hand, but something is wrong with Proving some man wrong, she would have never done it if there was not a bet. There are tons of sick people, out there I mean would it have been better if she took a bet to screw Zebra or a Cape Buffalo, and then shoot it and gave the meat to villagers?
To me the end does not justify the means. And when we say managed, just what are talking about? It takes two yrs for the gestation of a elephant baby...And they don't reproduce like humans or rabbits. What is their population like? Yes they are big as hell and cause damage.
Man, I sooo wish that Dinosaurs were still here in significant numbers, to just cull our population...
imagine walking down the street and seeing a Raptor run up and kill and eat person, who obviously is too obese to run away. you know our numbers need to be kept in check too.
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Lol..."to keep their numbers in check." Dude, the numbers of endangered species is continually increasing due to habitat loss from increasing human populations. Awesome animals such as lions, tigers, jaguars, wolves etc., are either threatened or endangered because of habitat destruction due to humans.
I am not sure the cicrumstances under which this elephant was essentially tortured can be justified as a means of population control.
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8 Is Enough. No, I'm not talking about the tv show, I'm talking about your post count. Please stop posting.
Why should I stop posting??? Is it because I have a realistic view of the world and understand that the survival of a species is dependant upon its economic worth and you can't handle this simple truth? You can try living under a rock, but that doesn't change the fact that elephants are actually making a come back in population every since the African government changed it's policy and started allowing villages to manage their populations and share in the money generated from hunting and selling their ivory.
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Nothing wrong with killing an animal for its food, skin, bones, etc. It's the circle of life, nature, etc. What is wrong, is to kill an animal simply because you enjoy killing it. Even if you end up eating it, or if you're controlling the numbers, or whatever. If you're killing an animal for personal enjoyment, you're fucked up and karma will get you...be sure of that.
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Onlyme was a great poster.
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Onlyme was a great poster.
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and karma will get you...be sure of that.
lets hope the bitch gets trampled by an elephant then!
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Hopefully the stupid whore comes back after death as an elephant
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Onlyme was a great poster.
ROFL...
PIP onlyme
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it was not onlyme.
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Hopefully the stupid whore comes back after death as an elephant
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*instant classic* ...and one more reason why GetBig is the greatest site in internet history.
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it was not onlyme.
good point, Onlyme hasn't been 800 lbs since 2003.
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She honestly looks like she can handle and even enjoy it, lol!
No, not if it's pumped up her ass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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Seriously, taking pride in killing an unsuspecting (and threatened as a species) animal with a weapon? Twisted sh*t right there. How about she take on its mate mano a mano. If she kills that one then she would really have something to gloat about.
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No, not if it's pumped up her ass.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
Agree ;D
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yes
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sweet signature ;D
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maybe old news but
anyone heard about the american whore who shot an elephant dead with a bow?
American Kills Elephant With Bow For A Bet
2:12pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
An American woman has slaughtered an elephant with a bow and arrow... to win a bet.
The Texas-born hunter killed the elephant with a single shot
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman was so proud, she posted pictures on the internet showing her beaming beside her kill in Zimbabwe.
The 39-year-old huntress said she crept into a herd of 37 elephants, knelt down, and shot the grand creature from just 12 yards.
It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.
Ms Groenewald-Hagerman is the first woman known to have killed an elephant with a bow and arrow.
The Kansas-born woman slaughtered the animal to win a bet with a male friend who said she would be unable to pull the heavy bow required.
For eight months she worked out for four hours a day so she could pull a £450 PSE X Force bow.
The lethal weapon has a 'draw weight' of 90lb - more than twice the amount pulled by female olympic archers.
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman
On the hunting website Hunts of a Lifetime Ms Groenewald-Hagerman wrote: "A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow.
"He indicated only one or two women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge."
The blonde has received praise from other hunters in online posts.
One blogger on texasbowhunter.com described her as: "Stunning looking, and a (sic) avid hunter.
"Her shot was made at 12 yards and the Bull traveled (sic) 500 yards before going down. 500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull.:) (sic)", Africanbowhunter said.
Another called BO-N-ARO wrote: "12 yards!!! I bet they had a great blood trail because of the low entry!! She had to have been shooting UP! That has to be one of the best examples of setting a goal and working hard to achieve it!"
The last person known to have killed an elephant with a bow was a man called Howard Hill, 60 years ago. It has rarely been attempted since.
Hunting elephants for sport is not illegal in some parts of Africa and many tour companies allow tourists to join organised hunting trips.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Elephant-Shot-With-Bow-And-Arrow-American-Huntress-Teressa-Groenewald-Hagerman-Killed-It-For-A-Bet/Article/200905115277040 (http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Elephant-Shot-With-Bow-And-Arrow-American-Huntress-Teressa-Groenewald-Hagerman-Killed-It-For-A-Bet/Article/200905115277040)
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what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.
First of all Elephants aren't ' defenseless ' groups of Lions runs from a single elephant for a reason . and I'm impressed she killed one with a bow great shot.
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Her fat ass can feed 500 people as well.
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First of all Elephants aren't ' defenseless ' groups of Lions runs from a single elephant for a reason . and I'm impressed she killed one with a bow great shot.
says more about you then about her.
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there are much more important things in the world to worry about and make a fuss about than a single elephant getting murdered.
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Her fat ass can feed 500 people as well.
Source?
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says more about you then about her.
It says you don't know your place in the food chain
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It says you don't know your place in the food chain
we are the ones with the brains and should know better, all that macho talk.
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we are the ones with the brains and should know better, all that macho talk.
' we are the ones with the brains ' hence why we're the top of the food chain
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' we are the ones with the brains ' hence why we're the top of the food chain
with brains comes responsibility
nature is about balance
not about spoilt rich kids killing defenceless animals
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Well, it's clearly not a sign of "intelligence" killing an elephant with bow and arrow.
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with brains comes responsibility
nature is about balance
not about spoilt rich kids killing defenceless animals
Defenseless animals? you ever eat meat in your life? spare me because your meat was butchered for you , at least she had the balls to kill it herself .
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This is more an act of Brawn than Brains.
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Defenseless animals? you ever eat meat in your life? spare me because your meat was butchered for you , at least she had the balls to kill it herself .
I don't think she killed the elephant to eat it, ND
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Defenseless animals? you ever eat meat in your life? spare me because your meat was butchered for you , at least she had the balls to kill it herself .
and speaking of balls
put her in an enclosed arena with nothing but a dagger against an angry, two thousand pound bull
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I don't think she killed the elephant to eat it, ND
doesn't matter , it feed many in the end .
and speaking of balls
put her in an enclosed arena with nothing but a dagger against an angry, two thousand pound bull
she was 12 yards near an elephant with a bow and arrow that takes BALLS forget the bull an elephant weights 10 times as much
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doesn't matter , it feed many in the end .
she was 12 yards near an elephant with a bow and arrow that takes BALLS forget the bull an elephant weights 10 times as much
I believe the guides 'lead' her
there are safaris that literally will corner a cat, hand some fat rich guy (or women) a gun, and say, 'shoot'
That is bullshit
that fucking bitch is not a hunter
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I believe the guides 'lead' her
there are safaris that literally will corner a cat, hand some fat rich guy (or women) a gun, and say, 'shoot'
That is bullshit
that fucking bitch is not a hunter
She killed a elephant with a bow , bullshit she's not a hunter I don't care who lead here where , bow hunter takes skill it's no easy feat to kill a wild boar nevermind a elephant . that's like saying I can take Joe-Blow to homeplate give them a few pointers and they would crack it out of the ball park .
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Reposted from another forum (author Jaga):
I'm not sure what I hope to gain my jumping into this fracas, but as someone who's spent a lot of time in Africa involved with photographing game (I'm not a hunter of big game for the record), I think it's very easy to jump to what I believe are the wrong conclusions....
My understanding from experts on the matter is as follows:
- Countries with well run hunting concessions have outperformed their peer countries that do not allow hunting in terms of maintenance of wildlife herds. The income from the hunting is what pays for the necessary game rangers and provides an alterative view of animals than protein sources. An elephant license can bring in $15-25k in a country where the average GDP is only $500 per person.
- In most countries today there is an organized culling of the elephant population to prevent the elephants from destroying the ecosystem (the eat a lot and knock down trees to eat, and will grow uncontrolled with no predators). In the process of trying to locate the value of an elephant license, I confirmed that as of the end of 2008, there was an elephant overpopulation in Zim and that they actively cull the heard of 100,000. Their parks can only sustainably support 45,000. Hunting is a revenue generative way to accomplish this.
- What she did was an absurdly dangerous and brave thing to do... crawling in the middle of a herd of 37 elephants and shooting at 12 yard with a bow... almost unthinkable. Kind of like walking unarmed into the biggest Arnold afterparty and identifying yourself as the narc responsible for the Oklahoma 'roid bust.
- yes, it's a little cras that she did this on a "bet"...she needs better PR. But it might have been more along the lines of Vas and Casie's wager...equally dangerous and foolhardy potentially, with risk of loss of life.
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She should be shot for that attire. I mean, really? Nothing better in the closet?
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Reposted from another forum (author Jaga):
I'm not sure what I hope to gain my jumping into this fracas, but as someone who's spent a lot of time in Africa involved with photographing game (I'm not a hunter of big game for the record), I think it's very easy to jump to what I believe are the wrong conclusions....
My understanding from experts on the matter is as follows:
- Countries with well run hunting concessions have outperformed their peer countries that do not allow hunting in terms of maintenance of wildlife herds. The income from the hunting is what pays for the necessary game rangers and provides an alterative view of animals than protein sources. An elephant license can bring in $15-25k in a country where the average GDP is only $500 per person.
- In most countries today there is an organized culling of the elephant population to prevent the elephants from destroying the ecosystem (the eat a lot and knock down trees to eat, and will grow uncontrolled with no predators). In the process of trying to locate the value of an elephant license, I confirmed that as of the end of 2008, there was an elephant overpopulation in Zim and that they actively cull the heard of 100,000. Their parks can only sustainably support 45,000. Hunting is a revenue generative way to accomplish this.
- What she did was an absurdly dangerous and brave thing to do... crawling in the middle of a herd of 37 elephants and shooting at 12 yard with a bow... almost unthinkable. Kind of like walking unarmed into the biggest Arnold afterparty and identifying yourself as the narc responsible for the Oklahoma 'roid bust.
- yes, it's a little cras that she did this on a "bet"...she needs better PR. But it might have been more along the lines of Vas and Casie's wager...equally dangerous and foolhardy potentially, with risk of loss of life.
Good post !
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She should be shot for that attire. I mean, really? Nothing better in the closet?
When doing something potentially controversial, the wise tomboy will seek to appeal to schmoe authority.
Surprisingly, though, the majority of schmoes - despite her strong arms built from months of hard training - who have responded, have spoken against her for this action.
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Defenseless animals? you ever eat meat in your life? spare me because your meat was butchered for you , at least she had the balls to kill it herself .
She doesn't need to kill to eat. If she was hungry, she could simply walk into a grocery store. She killed the animal because she enjoys killing. There's something wrong with that.
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She doesn't need to kill to eat. If she was hungry, she could simply walk into a grocery store. She killed the animal because she enjoys killing. There's something wrong with that.
She could go to the market and purchase beef someone killed at her behest? I'm sure she didn't even eat the animal , that's not the point . people did . She's a hunter they enjoy the challenge and it takes a LOT of skill to kill an elephant with a bow & arrow I have more respect for her killing the animal than people who buy their meat in nice white prepackaged containers while crying foul on how she did something wrong .
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She doesn't need to kill to eat. If she was hungry, she could simply walk into a grocery store. She killed the animal because she enjoys killing. There's something wrong with that.
I'm sure that there are plenty of people working in slaughterhouses who actually enjoy their work.
Should applicants for those jobs be required to demonstrate they don't really like killing animals?
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You guys are missing my point, so let me try to clarify. I'm not against killing animals for their resources. If there were no grocery stores or restaurants, I would hunt for my food. Not because I enjoy killing another living creature, but because I would need the food, leather, etc.
The fact that someone enjoys taking the life of another creature, simply for the fun of it, says a lot. Regardless of how much skill it takes, it's truly wrong to derive joy from the suffering of another.
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Sarah Palin approved
Exactly! It's not like the animal was going to live forever, otherwise. Good for her - although, I'm sure some of the New age animal right activists are going to kick up a stink over this one, blowing it all out of proportion.
yes, protesting cruelity to animals is blowing things out of porportion ::)
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I'm sure that there are plenty of people working in slaughterhouses who actually enjoy their work.
Should applicants for those jobs be required to demonstrate they don't really like killing animals?
Help me understand how it's okay to derive pleasure from inflicting fatal harm to other living creatures?
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Reposted from another forum (author Jaga):
I'm not sure what I hope to gain my jumping into this fracas, but as someone who's spent a lot of time in Africa involved with photographing game (I'm not a hunter of big game for the record), I think it's very easy to jump to what I believe are the wrong conclusions....
My understanding from experts on the matter is as follows:
- Countries with well run hunting concessions have outperformed their peer countries that do not allow hunting in terms of maintenance of wildlife herds.
- In most countries today there is an organized culling of the elephant population to prevent the elephants from destroying the ecosystem (the eat a lot and knock down trees to eat, and will grow uncontrolled with no predators).
- What she did was an absurdly dangerous and brave thing to do... crawling in the middle of a herd of 37 elephants and shooting at 12 yard with a bow... almost unthinkable.
- yes, it's a little cras that she did this on a "bet"...she needs better PR. But it might have been more along the lines of Vas and Casie's wager...equally dangerous and foolhardy potentially, with risk of loss of life.
OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.
Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.
ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.
Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.
"a little crass" ????? She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!
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You guys are missing my point, so let me try to clarify. I'm not against killing animals for their resources. If there were no grocery stores or restaurants, I would hunt for my food. Not because I enjoy killing another living creature, but because I would need the food, leather, etc.
The fact that someone enjoys taking the life of another creature, simply for the fun of it, says a lot. Regardless of how much skill it takes, it's truly wrong to derive joy from the suffering of another.
Well said. However, it is a part of our nature. Read any war journal. Blood lust is human, real. :-\
/20 years of humane society donations
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She killed a elephant with a bow , bullshit she's not a hunter I don't care who lead here where , bow hunter takes skill it's no easy feat to kill a wild boar nevermind a elephant . that's like saying I can take Joe-Blow to homeplate give them a few pointers and they would crack it out of the ball park .
without your type of 'thinking'
the world would be no poorer
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OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.
Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.
ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.
Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.
"a little crass" ????? She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!
meltdown if there ever was one.
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Help me understand how it's okay to derive pleasure from inflicting fatal harm to other living creatures?
Who said they derive pleasure? you keep typing this , when a hunter killed they had a celebration the tribe would survive and flourish there was cause to celebrate . she's proud she accomplished her objective and in the end the carcass didn't go to waste I bet those hungry Africans took great pleasure in eating are they wrong?
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A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course ;)
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Why should I stop posting??? Is it because I have a realistic view of the world and understand that the survival of a species is dependant upon its economic worth and you can't handle this simple truth? You can try living under a rock, but that doesn't change the fact that elephants are actually making a come back in population every since the African government changed it's policy and started allowing villages to manage their populations and share in the money generated from hunting and selling their ivory.
Meltdown.
...And yes, I don't like alternative viewpoints. People should always agree with me.
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A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course ;)
No, what is inherent in us is to hunt for food, taking only what we need. Not taking up a bet and killing an animal. Right now in Western Society there is no reason to go out to another continent to kill a elephant.
Our taking pleasure in hunting animals is why the Cougar/mountain lion/Florida Panther populations have dwindled. And then the reintroduction, then the problems, same with the Wolf population. And problems with that. And now our deer population is out of wack and we have deer season because of it. You see the fuck up reasoning of taking pleasure with killing? It creates an imbalance.
Yes, in some cultures to prove one's manhood one must kill a lion. Only because lions are Carnivores and inspire fear in our hearts, thus conquering the fear is the main goal. Man inherently kills what he fears or does not understand. Do i agree, No I don't but I understand.
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Hot as hell. I would hit it in a heartbeat. A true milf-warrior.
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All these tough guys and white knights...so sad.
Personally, I think she's an asshole. Doesn't take mega-skills to roll up to a desensitized animal and pop 'em one in the head. So she did it with a bow and arrow. Big deal. Leaving it to suffer and bleed out overnight is a feather in her cap? It's fucked up. If she was any kind of hunter and not a simple killer, she would have offed it properly. So, people got to eat. I've a feeling they would have eaten anyway. And if they didn't, population control. Sounds like a weak excuse to cover up her need to kill something big with a bow and arrow.
So, we kill animals to avoid overpopulation and exhaustion of resources, yet we breed and consume with impunity. It's not like we're going to give up land/resources to replenish the animals and food supply and we won't be able to produce enough in continually limited space. Following this logic, the animal population will eventually perish until we're the only game in town.
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All these tough guys and white knights...so sad.
Personally, I think she's an asshole. Doesn't take mega-skills to roll up to a desensitized animal and pop 'em one in the head. So she did it with a bow and arrow. Big deal. Leaving it to suffer and bleed out overnight is a feather in her cap? It's fucked up. If she was any kind of hunter and not a simple killer, she would have offed it properly. So, people got to eat. I've a feeling they would have eaten anyway. And if they didn't, population control. Sounds like a weak excuse to cover up her need to kill something big with a bow and arrow.
So, we kill animals to avoid overpopulation and exhaustion of resources, yet we breed and consume with impunity. It's not like we're going to give up land/resources to replenish the animals and food supply and we won't be able to produce enough in continually limited space. Following this logic, the animal population will eventually perish until we're the only game in town.
And?
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And what? You're the one that took the time to read and reply. :)
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meltdown if there ever was one.
maybe maybe not :)
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So an elephant was killed for sport in Zimbabwe, boo fucking hoo :'(
I could give a flying fuck about a wild animal getting slaughtered for any reason. There are countless worse things happening every day.
Get a sense of proportion. The human life expectancy in Zimbabwe is about 35 years (an elephant's life expectancy is about 60 years) but I don't hear any of you pantywaists crying about that. No wonder why Islam is taking over Europe.
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OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.
Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.
ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.
Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.
"a little crass" ????? She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!
Settle down pumpkin, hunting men (in this case women) are talking... 600 years ago you would've stayed behind with the "women" cutting yourself in the crotch to simulate menstruation and feel more like a "women"... gayer than a penile rubbing 'Kum Ba Yah' fest.
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I see no harm with harvesting a elephant as long as the animal is eaten, and the post said it would feed 500. I am a avid deer hunter/bow hunter and see no harm in harvesting an animal to be eaten. Taking dangerous animals such as an elephant can't be a small feat with a bow anyway, hence not many have been harvested by bowhunters. I wouldn't ever hunt exotic game, but I see no reason to bash other hunters for their game of choice. I am very surprised alot of getbiggers are against hunting, as alot of us consume vast amounts of animal protein ??? Some of you guys need to get out of the city and experience a one-on-one encounter with your next meal/protein source ;)....
Which reminds me, I think I have some venison(deer) backstraps to thaw out for tomorrow... mmmmm tasty
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Settle down pumpkin, hunting men (in this case women) are talking... 600 years ago you would've stayed behind with the "women" cutting yourself in the crotch to simulate menstruation and feel more like a "women"... gayer than a penile rubbing 'Kum Ba Yah' fest.
yea listen to the these 'he men' coming out the woodwork now,,,gym bunnies who spend most of their time looking at themselves in the mirror and wondering what Affliction T shirt they are going to by next....
We are not cavemen anymore...Try evolving, it works. ;)
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I see no harm with harvesting a elephant as long as the animal is eaten, and the post said it would feed 500. I am a avid deer hunter/bow hunter and see no harm in harvesting an animal to be eaten. Taking dangerous animals such as an elephant can't be a small feat with a bow anyway, hence not many have been harvested by bowhunters. I wouldn't ever hunt exotic game, but I see no reason to bash other hunters for their game of choice. I am very surprised alot of getbiggers are against hunting, as alot of us consume vast amounts of animal protein ??? Some of you guys need to get out of the city and experience a one-on-one encounter with your next meal/protein source ;)....
Which reminds me, I think I have some venison(deer) backstraps to thaw out for tomorrow... mmmmm tasty
bow and arrow hunters are the biggest assholes...worst way for any animal to die with a broken bow lodged in their lung...takes the longest for them to die and most painfull...And skill? thats even more bullshit...The bow and arrows they make now a days are stainless steel killing machines...complete with every contraption to make it as easy as pulling a trigger.
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yea listen to the these 'he men' coming out the woodwork now,,,gym bunnies who spend most of their time looking at themselves in the mirror and wondering what Affliction T shirt they are going to by next....
We are not cavemen anymore...Try evolving, it works. ;)
gay bunnies can do the fuck they want. I hear you like 'em explain all the above. What the fuck do you care if an animal dies by "arrow wound" or any other way? Thousands of animals die daily in slaughter houses and it's not all rosy. Are you going to stop eating meat (with the exception of the dearly man sausage of course)...?
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gay bunnies can do the fuck they want. I hear you like 'em explain all the above. What the fuck do you care if an animal dies by "arrow wound" or any other way? Thousands of animals die daily in slaughter houses and it's not all rosy. Are you going to stop eating meat (with the exception of the dearly man sausage of course)...?
man sausage never hurt anyone....you are right slaughter houses are way worse, so why is that an exuse to inflict even more burden on the animal kingdom...when is enough enough, how much suffering is too much? I am not against any sustainable and humane approved use of animals for food, unfortunately we dont live in a world that understands that...There are population control techniques, using birth control, that have been proven effective and can be used in many areas that are overdeveloped here and in Africa, but money and greed stop their use.
We have evolved out of the caves many many years ago and the only reason we still exist and can claim dominion over the earth is the evolutionary mistake of compassion, compassion for strangers and for other species...it may be a mistake but it makes life on earth worth living.
All I am asking is for people to use their intelligence and compassion.
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let's stick to the real issue: it's too dangerous for females to carry weapons.
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I'm impressed she killed one with a bow great shot.
I agree.. that bitch is fearless.
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I agree.. that bitch is fearless.
she is quite the hero ::)
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nycbull absolutely PWNING 'camelisator' by responding in a calm manner without resorting to personal attacks, while the idiot boy throws insults without reason to try to cover the fact his arguments are weak, just like his family name.
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id love to see little twats here who think shes a hero run for their lives to avoid being hit by an arrow, wonder if there still that tough conservative bruce willis thinking.
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she is quite the hero ::)
I didn’t say she’s a hero.. I said the bitch is - F E A R L E S S.
If you were in the presence of an elephant.. you would urinate all over yourself.. and wish to god you had an extremely powerful weapon.
this woman crawled in to a *herd* of elephants.. and shot one close range – with a bow and arrow.
fearless.
forget about right or wrong.. (like that really exists in this world?).. what she did - very few human beings are capable of. she has nerves of steel.
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"Bring your daughter,
fetch your daughter,
bring your daughter....."
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I didn’t say she’s a hero.. I said the bitch is - F E A R L E S S.
If you were in the presence of an elephant.. you would urinate all over yourself.. and wish to god you had an extremely powerful weapon.
this woman crawled in to a *herd* of elephants.. and shot one close range – with a bow and arrow.
fearless.
forget about right or wrong.. (like that really exists in this world?).. what she did - very few human beings are capable of. she has nerves of steel.
I agree. I bet half the guys here who are crying at the "injustice" don't give a second thought about the poor, defenseless cow that was slaughtered, to be made into the burger they eat or the chicken that was slaughtered to be made into the drumstick they like. It's cruel to kill an animal, but basically, it's a form of life and is no different than felling a tree or fishing.
As for NYC who says that animal populations can't go out of control due to "natural balance" - those are words spoken by someone who is totally ignorant of Ecology. There are tons of recorded cases of various animals and plants and even algal species that grow to an extent that made/make it impossible for competing species to thrive, as a result of which they died/die out. In a lot of those cases, the whole ecosystem's food chain and biological profile undergoes massive changes and extinction of species have occurred cause they no longer had the resources they needed due to the over-dominant organism consuming it all.
Don't make up generic statements about things like "natural balance" just because it sounds more romantic and benign. Nature is just as cruel as humans can be.
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I didn’t say she’s a hero.. I said the bitch is - F E A R L E S S.
If you were in the presence of an elephant.. you would urinate all over yourself.. and wish to god you had an extremely powerful weapon.
this woman crawled in to a *herd* of elephants.. and shot one close range – with a bow and arrow.
fearless.
forget about right or wrong.. (like that really exists in this world?).. what she did - very few human beings are capable of. she has nerves of steel.
oh yeah she was all on her own ::)
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europeans are warriors, hunters... im proud of her.
You are a fucking cretin
I would love to see you in the same condition as that Elephant, there is an Elephant in that herd with-out a mate now (& they pine for years).
If you are eating it to survive, I will help.
Photo op - you should be getting decapitated slowly on vid, to be posted on an Islamic extremist site, by a bunch of Black clad 'Fedayhin'
Same goes for Lions - other majestic game.
Big bad White hunter = Zero Buffalo in N.America - you wanker !!
It is people like you that are goingto send this species down the fucking plug hole, to evolutionary room 101 !! PRICK.
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I agree. I bet half the guys here who are crying at the "injustice" don't give a second thought about the poor, defenseless cow that was slaughtered, to be made into the burger they eat or the chicken that was slaughtered to be made into the drumstick they like. It's cruel to kill an animal, but basically, it's a form of life and is no different than felling a tree or fishing.
Reality check !!
I like you 'Kiwiol' but 1 question = did she eat it, or just get the photo op ??
See my above post & get in line.
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oh yeah she was all on her own ::)
bold words.. coming from a man who does not even have the courage to reveal his identity on a bodybuilding forum.
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I didn’t say she’s a hero.. I said the bitch is - F E A R L E S S.
If you were in the presence of an elephant.. you would urinate all over yourself.. and wish to god you had an extremely powerful weapon.
this woman crawled in to a *herd* of elephants.. and shot one close range – with a bow and arrow.
fearless.
forget about right or wrong.. (like that really exists in this world?).. what she did - very few human beings are capable of. she has nerves of steel.
After seeing you photos Jimi - I have trouble taking you seriously ??? ??? - honestly.
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After seeing you photos Jimi - I have trouble taking you seriously ??? ??? - honestly.
in what way?
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bold words.. coming from a man who does not even have the courage to reveal his identity on a bodybuilding forum.
Im Marcel, and when im as huge as you i will post my pictures too, james little fuck, i always backed you here.
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Im Marcel, and when im as huge as you i will post my pictures too, james little fuck, i always backed you here.
I've never shopped around for *backers*.. do what you like.
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Reality check !!
I like you 'Kiwiol' but 1 question = did she eat it, or just get the photo op ??
See my above post & get in line.
I give you that it's sad to see an animal like that killed just for the heck of it. But a) The meat was fed to 500 people and b) It's not the first time it's happened nor is it going to be the last. Game hunting has been around for as long as humans have been around and it isn't just hunters who kill animals - I don't have to tell you how animals kill and feed on each other as dictated by their nature.
A lot of the people here are rolling their eyes cause they think that the original challenge was about killing an elephant at close range, but it was more about her being able to draw the bow with it's pull that's 4 times what Olympic athletes use. I'm just saying that it's funny how the same guys who are making a big deal out of it wouldn't bat an eyelid over say, someone fishing and bragging about the size of their catch.
The elephant being "defenseless" is absurd - this is how animals are hunted in the wild and the fact that the woman did it with a bow & arrow instead of using a gun is what made it a news item. Otherwise, we wouldn't have heard about it cause it's being done on a daily basis and on a large scale, to several different animals all over the world.
I've never shopped around for *backers*.. do what you like.
LOL
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Here is what can happen when 'week-end-warriors' fuck it up (yeah, European great White hunter indeed).
I was rooting for the Lion every-time, where it not for a lucky shot in - BOTH - CASES - these fuckers would have had 220KG of fucking furious Lion chewing on their necks.
Hitting a moving target is - NOT - very easy, both of these last shots were pot luck, the 2'nd was from the hip no less.
I so wanted to see this lot get fucked up by their stupidity.
The first vid = the Lion in mid flight before he get's hit - had that shot missed, the guy would have been dead !! I WISH.
Shit this makes me MAD
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A shame the elephant had to suffer.
Still, as already said, this stuff happens everyday. I do not agree with the people who are praising her. This isn't a sport, she is not a hero and it took overnight for the animal to die, so wtf is everyone praising her for......... ::)
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I give you that it's sad to see an animal like that killed just for the heck of it. But a) The meat was fed to 500 people and b) It's not the first time it's happened nor is it going to be the last. Game hunting has been around for as long as humans have been around and it isn't just hunters who kill animals - I don't have to tell you how animals kill and feed on each other as dictated by their nature.
A lot of the people here are rolling their eyes cause they think that the original challenge was about killing an elephant at close range, but it was more about her being able to draw the bow with it's pull that's 4 times what Olympic athletes use. I'm just saying that it's funny how the same guys who are making a big deal out of it wouldn't bat an eyelid over say, someone fishing and bragging about the size of their catch.
The elephant being "defenseless" is absurd - this is how animals are hunted in the wild and the fact that the woman did it with a bow & arrow instead of using a gun is what made it a news item.
1) you know this how ?? so the Vultures did not pick the carcass (what was left).
2) not the same thing at all, anglers release their catch - or eat it.
3) correct, & had they sensed danger, she would have been trampled to death by 5 'Bull Elephants' - now there is a 'JOO-tube' vid I would watch over & over
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2) not the same thing at all, anglers release their catch - or eat it.
are you joking?
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the elephant was killed.. and eaten.
does the elephant really care if the one who killed it took a bite?
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1) you know this how ?? so the Vultures did not pick the carcass (what was left).
2) not the same thing at all, anglers release their catch - or eat it.
3) correct, & had they sensed danger, she would have been trampled to death by 5 'Bull Elephants' - now there is a 'JOO-tube' vid I would watch over & over
1) It says in the article that the meat was fed to 500 people
2) True, but not always. And that was just an example anyway.
3) Agree and I would rather it wasn't that way. I most certainly won't think a guy is a hero for killing something magnificent like a lion with a firearm, just so he can brag about it later on.
I just don't get the fuss over what is not an isolated or even a rare occurrence, but something that happens everyday, on a much larger scale.
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are you joking?
NO - are you ??
the elephant was killed.. and eaten.
does the elephant really care if the one who killed it took a bite?
I fucking care & if you don't - fuck you wanker -
It is people like you that are going to send this species down the fucking plug hole, to evolutionary room 101 !! PRICK.
Does the term 'eco-system' mean any-thing to you ??
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NO - are you ??
I fucking care & if you don't - fuck you wanker -
It is people like you that are going to send this species down the fucking plug hole, to evolutionary room 101 !! PRICK.
Does the term 'eco-system' mean any-thing to you ??
Matt – you promote nothing but hate on this board.. I find it comical that you consider yourself morally justified in posting that.
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1) It says in the article that the meat was fed to 500 people
2) True, but not always. And that was just an example anyway.
3) Agree and I would rather it wasn't that way. I most certainly won't think a guy is a hero for killing something magnificent like a lion with a firearm, just so he can brag about it later on.
I just don't get the fuss over what is not an isolated or even a rare occurrence, but something that happens everyday, on a much larger scale.
1) didn't read it, but as long as that was not 'PR' - it makes it a little easier to bear, but only a little.
The fact that she left the poor fucker to die over night just so she could have her 'killed with my bow status' -tells me everything I need to know about this fucking wretched whore.
I would love to sneak into her bed-room at night with a hammer (Pete-Yorkshire ripper-sutcliffe) style & fuck her up with 10 GOOD SWINGS TO THE HEAD.
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Matt – you promote nothing but hate on this board.. I find it comical that you consider yourself morally justified in posting that.
Only toward the 'virus with shoes' - the difference when you look a little closer, cataclysmic !!
I love this planet & every-thing on it - with the exception of the afore-mentioned disease.
I hate 'untermenchen' - Caucasian - Asian - negro - take your fucking pick.
3 words = Brazilian rain forest.
Now be a good tea boy & go & put the kettle on (before the pot calls you Black) :o ::)
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2) not the same thing at all, anglers release their catch - or eat it.
often times.. when someone catches a large fish.. a trophy fish.. they kill it, stuff it and hang it on their wall at home.
then they show it to all of their friends and get congratulated on the *kill*
they are not worried about eating the fish.
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- In most countries today there is an organized culling of the elephant population to prevent the elephants from destroying the ecosystem (the eat a lot and knock down trees to eat, and will grow uncontrolled with no predators). In the process of trying to locate the value of an elephant license, I confirmed that as of the end of 2008, there was an elephant overpopulation in Zim and that they actively cull the heard of 100,000. Their parks can only sustainably support 45,000. Hunting is a revenue generative way to accomplish this.
Read - farmers crops, wanker.
So who stopped the Elephants over running the eco-system in the 1000's of years before the first Whites in Africa ?? take your time, no rush.
I will not wait/hold my breath.
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An unnecessarily cruel death. Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours. Even primitive hunters would have made the animal's death much quicker and they would have had some reverence for the animal. I see no evidence of reverence on her part, just ego gratification.
Isn't there some sort of 'hunter's code' about making a quick clean kill and how a prolonged death is a bad thing? I bet the locals thought she was a piece of shit for asking all night long 'Is it dead yet?'
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Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours.
I agree.. that is needless. 12 hours?
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I agree.. that is needless. 12 hours?
I'm guessing it wasn't dusk when she shot it, so who can say.
It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.
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she's still a whore
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maybe old news but
anyone heard about the american whore who shot an elephant dead with a bow?
American Kills Elephant With Bow For A Bet
2:12pm UK, Thursday May 07, 2009
An American woman has slaughtered an elephant with a bow and arrow... to win a bet.
The Texas-born hunter killed the elephant with a single shot
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman was so proud, she posted pictures on the internet showing her beaming beside her kill in Zimbabwe.
The 39-year-old huntress said she crept into a herd of 37 elephants, knelt down, and shot the grand creature from just 12 yards.
It staggered 500 yards before it collapsed, then she left it to die overnight.
Ms Groenewald-Hagerman is the first woman known to have killed an elephant with a bow and arrow.
The Kansas-born woman slaughtered the animal to win a bet with a male friend who said she would be unable to pull the heavy bow required.
For eight months she worked out for four hours a day so she could pull a £450 PSE X Force bow.
The lethal weapon has a 'draw weight' of 90lb - more than twice the amount pulled by female olympic archers.
Teressa Groenewald-Hagerman
On the hunting website Hunts of a Lifetime Ms Groenewald-Hagerman wrote: "A man by the name of Larry, who is a videographer for Orion Multi Media, bet me I couldn't shoot a buffalo or elephant with a bow.
"He indicated only one or two women had completed the buffalo with a bow and no woman had ever taken an elephant with a bow. Of course, I couldn't turn down the challenge."
The blonde has received praise from other hunters in online posts.
One blogger on texasbowhunter.com described her as: "Stunning looking, and a (sic) avid hunter.
"Her shot was made at 12 yards and the Bull traveled (sic) 500 yards before going down. 500 African Villagers were fed with the meat from the Bull.:) (sic)", Africanbowhunter said.
Another called BO-N-ARO wrote: "12 yards!!! I bet they had a great blood trail because of the low entry!! She had to have been shooting UP! That has to be one of the best examples of setting a goal and working hard to achieve it!"
The last person known to have killed an elephant with a bow was a man called Howard Hill, 60 years ago. It has rarely been attempted since.
Hunting elephants for sport is not illegal in some parts of Africa and many tour companies allow tourists to join organised hunting trips.
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what is wrong with people?
the things i would do with that little punk.
Pathetic. You could kill anything with a big enough weapon. Lame as you like.
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I'm not really one to take cheap shots, but she looks a little crosseyed. She was probably aiming for the next one over.
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Of course animals get killed all the time, in slaughterhouses and in the wild, but none of them suffer for 12 hours.
Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.
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Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.
I confess that I don't know much about it (and that I'm not too keen on watching the vids), but I'm under the impression that slaughterhouse animals suffer from discomfort and generally shitty conditions but the death itself is very quick. So they suffer too, but not from a mortal wound. I could be wrong but I would think the slaughterhouse would kill 'em quick in the interest of efficiency.
Fwiw, I buy free range stuff whenever possible. I like to think that the bird, beast, or fish had a chance for some good times before getting sent down the chute.
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For me it just boils down to preventing unnecessary suffering, whether in the slaughterhouse or on a hunt.
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Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.
YEAH, I CAN'T WATCH MORE THAN 2 MINS OF THAT SHIT !!
I want to call in an air-strike when I see those vids. :'(
The whole killing an animal swiftly, & with dignity, while thanking the God's for this offering, also the animal for allowing you to take his life to further your own, is the way to go 'IMO' 'native Americans' had this idea down !!
For me it just boils down to preventing unnecessary suffering, whether in the slaughterhouse or on a hunt.
As I just said.
. So they suffer too, but not from a mortal wound. I could be wrong but I would think the slaughterhouse would kill 'em quick in the interest of efficiency.
You are, try watching a few of them "meet your meat' is a good one :-X :-X :-X
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im not against eating meat but i am against the excesive meat consumption in our culture, the mac donald culture, dont get me wrong i love it but if anyone would eat a little less big improvements would be made, everything has to be as cheap as possible and the only one who suffers because of it is the poor animal and his living conditions. and dont get me started on the criminal production of foie gras.
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im not against eating meat but i am against the excesive meat consumption in our culture, the mac donald culture, dont get me wrong i love it but if anyone would eat a little less big improvements would be made, everything has to be as cheap as possible and the only one who suffers because of it is the poor animal and his living conditions. and dont get me started on the criminal production of foie gras.
Eventually humans will be able to make meat without slaughtering a living animal.
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Hope you are kidding. Not all of them, but a lot of slaughterhouses and abattoirs are just appalling when it comes to the way they treat the animals all the time they are there, let alone in the hours surrounding the butchering. There are tons of clips and websites and what have you about the subject online.
i had you pegged as a humanitarium kiwiol
there is a diference between eating farm reared meat
and killing a wild animal for a bet
the animal was left to die slowly over night
bitch is an idiot
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i had you pegged as a humanitarium kiwiol
there is a diference between eating farm reared meat
and killing a wild animal for a bet
the animal was left to die slowly over night
bitch is an idiot
Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.
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Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.
bottom line is
she needs a healthy portion of cock to chill her out
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Like I said, I am not happy about it nor do I think she's great or anything. Just pointing out how shit like that happens everyday all over the world. I've seen worse stuff mate and most probably, so have you. You become desensitized to things when you witness things that are much worse than game hunting, be it with a gun or a bow & arrow.
Great post. No one usually wants to see an animal like that killed, but at least they fed the 500 pounds of meat to people who were hungry instead of leaving it there and stealing it's tusks or other parts to just make a fast dollar.
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bottom line is
she needs a healthy portion of cock to chill her out
No arguments there ;D
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Great post. No one usually wants to see an animal like that killed, but at least they fed the 500 pounds of meat to people who were hungry instead of leaving it there and stealing it's tusks or other parts to just make a fast dollar.
so she should get a reward?
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Fact is she is from a 1st world country so she had no fucking excuse to be killing animals and letting them die slowly for 12 hours just so she could win a bet with some other fuckwit.If its a matter of survival for some 3rd world starving family then sure you do what needs to be done.
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Read - farmers crops, wanker.
So who stopped the Elephants over running the eco-system in the 1000's of years before the first Whites in Africa ?? take your time, no rush.
I will not wait/hold my breath.
As people, we have taken upon ourselves the 'right' to live pretty much wherever we please. That's the reality we have to accept. The animals haven't proven they are capable of knowing how to orchestrate all the elements of a balanced co-existence and even though we may not always employ it, humans do have that capacity.
We all have to make compromises, even the elephants.
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Who said they derive pleasure? you keep typing this , when a hunter killed they had a celebration the tribe would survive and flourish there was cause to celebrate . she's proud she accomplished her objective and in the end the carcass didn't go to waste I bet those hungry Africans took great pleasure in eating are they wrong?
She hunted the elephant not because the need food. She hunted the elephant because she derived pleasure from killing it. You see nothing wrong with deriving pleasure from the misery of another?
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A lot of pussies lurking around getbig it appears. I would think taking pleasure in hunting an animal would be something inherent in many of us. Obviously back when we were hunter/gathers a lot of pleasure was derived from killing an animal for food, but now we need to feel bad that we killed it, but can still enjoy eating it of course ;)
The pleasure in hunting and the celebration that followed was understandable. They needed to do it in order to survive. They were celebrating survival, not the killing of the animal. There is no reason for this lady to hunt, other than deriving pleasure from killing.
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I agree. I bet half the guys here who are crying at the "injustice" don't give a second thought about the poor, defenseless cow that was slaughtered, to be made into the burger they eat or the chicken that was slaughtered to be made into the drumstick they like. It's cruel to kill an animal, but basically, it's a form of life and is no different than felling a tree or fishing.
As for NYC who says that animal populations can't go out of control due to "natural balance" - those are words spoken by someone who is totally ignorant of Ecology. There are tons of recorded cases of various animals and plants and even algal species that grow to an extent that made/make it impossible for competing species to thrive, as a result of which they died/die out. In a lot of those cases, the whole ecosystem's food chain and biological profile undergoes massive changes and extinction of species have occurred cause they no longer had the resources they needed due to the over-dominant organism consuming it all.
Don't make up generic statements about things like "natural balance" just because it sounds more romantic and benign. Nature is just as cruel as humans can be.
it's okay to kill to eat. it's not okay to kill for fun. Don't you get it?
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OMG this is the biggest piece of bullshit I have ever read on getbig.
Animals do not overpopulate...there is no such thing you fucking moron. It is not possible, the food supply controls their population. Animals overpopulating is a myth created by Fish Game and Wildlife to sell more hunting licenses. It is a LIE, Animals DO NOT overpopulate.
ANimals DO NOT DESTROY ecosystems.. where the fuck did you go to school?..You know nothing about ecology. Yea watch out everyone there are roving gangs of animals out there destroying ecosystems and carrying knives...beware!!!.
Suggesting this selfish egocentric women needs better PR is like saying Bernard Madoff needs better PR...she is a creepy greedy selfserving careless person who took something good away from the world for her own selfish needs.
"a little crass" ????? She took something beautiful away from all of us and from future generations just to make herself happy.....She is more like a self serving c-unt!
Dude,
Hello McFly!! Many of the game sanctuary's in Africa run the risk of Elephant over population and either relocate (when possible) or cull the herd of a few animals. Why don't you look up the amount of food it takes to sustain just 1 elephant in a day. A large herd can destroy several acres of vegetation in a few days. They can and they do overpopulate a give area. Remember many of these preserves are thousands of acres but are surrounded by high fences to keep poachers out.
PS you shoot the arrow not the bow :D
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it's okay to kill to eat. it's not okay to kill for fun. Don't you get it?
Sure. In this case, the meat did feed 500 people as the article mentions and again, I'm not cheering for her - just saying game hunting has been around for as long as we have and happens on a much larger and widespread scale than that one incident.
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Sure. In this case, the meat did feed 500 people as the article mentions and again, I'm not cheering for her - just saying game hunting has been around for as long as we have and happens on a much larger and widespread scale than that one incident.
You miss my point. She did not kill the Elephant to feed those people. She killed it for fun.
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You don't harvest an animal the next day after you leave it to die overnight. LOL. The meat goes bad in a matter of hours. In Africa you have to slaughter and butcher an animal fairly quickly if you are going to eat it. Feeding 500 starving africans was the last thing on her mind.
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You are a fucking cretin
I would love to see you in the same condition as that Elephant, there is an Elephant in that herd with-out a mate now (& they pine for years).
If you are eating it to survive, I will help.
Photo op - you should be getting decapitated slowly on vid, to be posted on an Islamic extremist site, by a bunch of Black clad 'Fedayhin'
Same goes for Lions - other majestic game.
Big bad White hunter = Zero Buffalo in N.America - you wanker !!
It is people like you that are goingto send this species down the fucking plug hole, to evolutionary room 101 !! PRICK.
QFT
Probably the first and only time I will agree with you.
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You are a fucking cretin
I would love to see you in the same condition as that Elephant, there is an Elephant in that herd with-out a mate now (& they pine for years).
If you are eating it to survive, I will help.
Photo op - you should be getting decapitated slowly on vid, to be posted on an Islamic extremist site, by a bunch of Black clad 'Fedayhin'
Same goes for Lions - other majestic game.
Big bad White hunter = Zero Buffalo in N.America - you wanker !!
It is people like you that are goingto send this species down the fucking plug hole, to evolutionary room 101 !! PRICK.
QFT x 2
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You miss my point. She did not kill the Elephant to feed those people. She killed it for fun.
Who said she did it for ' fun ' ? and there was a very real possibility she could have been killed so obviously she was excited about accomplishing her mission and coming out alive . 12 yards into a herd of elephants they had just an equal a chance of killing her as she did of them .
and what difference does it make if she did or did not kill to feed the people? that's a matter of semantics it wasn't a waste at the end of the day.
win/win situation
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cant believe you actually defend that little punk. you missed that grimace on her ugly face right?
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She hunted the elephant not because the need food. She hunted the elephant because she derived pleasure from killing it. You see nothing wrong with deriving pleasure from the misery of another?
How do you know she derived pleasure from it? because she's smiling in the picture? I'm assuming that's what you're basing it on. she's happy because she one accomplished the mission and two came out alive . there was a very real possibility she could have been trampled or impaled with a tusk she took a huge chance and came out on top she has much to be happy about.
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cant believe you actually defend that little punk. you missed that grimace on her ugly face right?
HE SPEAKS
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cant believe you actually defend that little punk. you missed that grimace on her ugly face right?
You admitted you eat meat you're a hypocrite she just had the balls to do what you're paying other people to do , she didn't eat the meat big deal others did nothing ( presumably ) went to waste another animal dead in the cycle of life , as always life goes on.
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Settle down pumpkin, hunting men (in this case women) are talking... 600 years ago you would've stayed behind with the "women" cutting yourself in the crotch to simulate menstruation and feel more like a "women"... gayer than a penile rubbing 'Kum Ba Yah' fest.
Just saw this gem - ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!
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Help me understand how it's okay to derive pleasure from inflicting fatal harm to other living creatures?
Although we do not absolutely have to eat meat, we do. The reasons why we eat meat - fish, fowl, beef, pork, etc - are countless and it's just accepted that humans eat meat.
In order to eat meat, we have to kill. Whether we do the killing ourselves or whether someone else does it for us, the animal is going to die at human hands. And the people who eat the meat are going to derive pleasure from it. I would think that most meat-eaters never give a second thought as to whether the persons responsible for providing the meat actually enjoyed the killing process.
Personally, I'm disgusted by slaughterhouse operations, but that's never caused me to turn down a steak.
Regardless of this woman's motivations, the end result is the same - an animal was slaughtered and people got to eat meat.
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...she was excited about accomplishing her mission and coming out alive...
As if it was some Navy Seals super-duper black op assignment. She snuck up on an elephant (they have poorer eyesight than humans) in the dark and shot it. ::)
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If she wasn't so ugly, it might be different.
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If she wasn't so ugly, it might be different.
Agree, Show - first Onlyme gets put in Time out, then Fat Panda has a Chernobyl-sized meltdown in the V and now this. Not a good time to be obese :-\
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Agree, Show - first Onlyme gets put in Time out, then Fat Panda has a Chernobyl-sized meltdown in the V and now this. Not a good time to be obese :-\
I guess we can all do anything we want now, with onlymen in timeout....there isn't room for anybody else. 8)
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Who said she did it for ' fun ' ? and there was a very real possibility she could have been killed so obviously she was excited about accomplishing her mission and coming out alive . 12 yards into a herd of elephants they had just an equal a chance of killing her as she did of them .
and what difference does it make if she did or did not kill to feed the people? that's a matter of semantics it wasn't a waste at the end of the day.
win/win situation
Are you really that stupid? She enjoys hunting. So much in fact, that she risked her own life to do it. It's fun for her. When the animal got shot with the arrow, and laid in the jungle overnight bleeding to death, it experienced fear, pain and anguish. She inflicted fatal harm on the animal to have fun while hunting. It's baffling that people see nothing wrong with that.
If she was really doing it to feed 500 people, she could have found a much safer and more humane way to kill the elephant. But, feeding people was not her intent. Getting joy from hunting was.
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As if it was some Navy Seals super-duper black op assignment. She snuck up on an elephant (they have poorer eyesight than humans) in the dark and shot it. ::)
Yeah because the only have one sense ::) what she did was remarkable regardless if you agree or not and she was in very real danger , it could have went two ways she came out on top.
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I'm with Mars on this one - sneaking up on a God-damned elephant, shooting it from a couple yards away, and leaving it to bleed out over night makes her a bitch
the woman doesn't give a shit how many people the elephant feeds - she killed it on a bet
pass her to Rocco Siffredi and we'll see how tough she is
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I'm with Mars on this one - sneaking up on a God-damned elephant, shooting it from a couple yards away, and leaving to bleed out over night makes her a bitch
don't fool yourselves into thinking she did to feed anyone - it was on a bet
pass her to Rocco Siffredi and we'll see how tough she is
I don't care of she did it to feed anyone that was a nice ancillary benefit , she was in danger of getting killed it works both ways , she came out on top
pass her to Rocco Siffredi and we'll see how tough she is
this made me laugh out loud ;D
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I don't care of she did it to feed anyone that was a nice ancillary benefit , she was in danger of getting killed it works both ways , she came out on top
pass her to Rocco Siffredi and we'll see how tough she is
this made me laugh out loud ;D
what does her putting herself in danger have to do with anything?
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what does her putting herself in danger have to do with anything?
No sense arguing with these people Mindspin. They clearly are neither naturalists nor ethical hunters. They just wont understand.
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No sense arguing with these people Mindspin. They clearly are neither naturalists nor ethical hunters. They just wont understand.
They should, at least, admit that they enjoy killing animals for the mere fun of it, instead of trying to cover it up with nonsense like "population control" & "feeding starving Africans".
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I'm with Mars on this one - sneaking up on a God-damned elephant, shooting it from a couple yards away, and leaving it to bleed out over night makes her a bitch
the woman doesn't give a shit how many people the elephant feeds - she killed it on a bet
pass her to Rocco Siffredi and we'll see how tough she is
dude
that makes her well beyond a bitch
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what does her putting herself in danger have to do with anything?
Because she could have died it's not like she was on some Land Rover 700 yards out , the elephants could have very easily killed her
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No sense arguing with these people Mindspin. They clearly are neither naturalists nor ethical hunters. They just wont understand.
I don't hunt , never hunted and have no desire to hunt , but I respect people who do. you don't understand your place on the food chain.
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I don't hunt , never hunted and have no desire to hunt , but I respect people who do. you don't understand your place on the food chain.
Exactly.
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They should, at least, admit that they enjoy killing animals for the mere fun of it, instead of trying to cover it up with nonsense like "population control" & "feeding starving Africans".
Again you keep insisting people are killing for fun where are you coming up with this? you haven't answered as of yet. because she killed and didn't eat it? if she eat it would it change anything? I mean where does it stop? does she only have to take a bite or eat to her fill? what amount is okay for you? isn't it enough it didn't go to waste?
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Again you keep insisting people are killing for fun where are you coming up with this? you haven't answered as of yet. because she killed and didn't eat it? if she eat it would it change anything? I mean where does it stop? does she only have to take a bite or eat to her fill? what amount is okay for you? isn't it enough it didn't go to waste?
If she did not eat it
why did she kill it?
this is the question, ND
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If she did not eat it
why did she kill it?
this is the question, ND
The question was answered , for a challenge and nothing more. as the top of the food chain we can do that .
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The question was answered , for a challenge and nothing more. as the top of the food chain we can do that .
Does not make it an honorable thing
not at all
no honor
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The question was answered , for a challenge and nothing more. as the top of the food chain we can do that .
So, you think it's okay to inflict harm on another living creature, simply because it makes for a good challenge ???
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So, you think it's okay to inflict harm on another living creature, simply because it makes for a good challenge ???
Yeah, what the hell, why not? ;D
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So, you think it's okay to inflict harm on another living creature, simply because it makes for a good challenge ???
like I said
no honor here
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Does not make it an honorable thing
not at all
no honor
Honor? she put herself in grave danger at the least the elephants could have killed her ...that's to be respected she took a massive chance in doing so that's honorable , I'm not a huge fan of sport hunting but in the end nothing goes to waste so in the end it's still a win/win situation
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Honor? she put herself in grave danger at the least the elephants could have killed her ...that's to be respected she took a massive chance in doing so that's honorable , I'm not a huge fan of sport hunting but in the end nothing goes to waste so in the end it's still a win/win situation
no
she CHOSE to put herself in an inane position
scratch what I said earlier
Stupid AND no honor
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So, you think it's okay to inflict harm on another living creature, simply because it makes for a good challenge ???
While I'm not a fan of sport hunting she put herself in harms way , it could have went two ways , she came out on top and let's say the meat didn't go to the villagers , some other creatures would have been well fed so in the end it's a win/win situation .
And I agree with medical testing on another living creature regardless if it inflicts harm if it benefits man .
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no
she CHOSE to put herself in an inane position
scratch what I said earlier
Stupid AND no honor
Yes she did choose to put herself in that position but it doesn't change the fact that there was serious risk involved it's more honorable than shooting from 1000 yards in the back of a Range Rover
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Yes she did choose to put herself in that position but it doesn't change the fact that there was serious risk involved it's more honorable than shooting from 1000 yards in the back of a Range Rover
I choose to disagree, respectfully
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I choose to disagree, respectfully
Thanks you :)
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Thanks you :)
don't mention it, proper decorum is often lost these days
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Honor? she put herself in grave danger at the least the elephants could have killed her ...that's to be respected she took a massive chance in doing so that's honorable , I'm not a huge fan of sport hunting but in the end nothing goes to waste so in the end it's still a win/win situation
The elephants were desensitived to humans. So they thought, "Hey another human in our mist", that's the equivalent of walking amongst tame deer and then shooting one.
I hope that she comes up against a Cape Buffalo and we read that she was maimed. Cape Buffalo are no joke, and they will remember you and follow you.
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The elephants were desensitived to humans. So they thought, "Hey another human in our mist", that's the equivalent of walking amongst tame deer and then shooting one.
I hope that she comes up against a Cape Buffalo and we read that she was maimed. Cape Buffalo are no joke, and they will remember you and follow you.
No shit. Is that true?
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The elephants were desensitived to humans. So they thought, "Hey another human in our mist", that's the equivalent of walking amongst tame deer and then shooting one.
I hope that she comes up against a Cape Buffalo and we read that she was maimed. Cape Buffalo are no joke, and they will remember you and follow you.
Those particular elephants? it would explain how she got so close but even then look at the circus elephants and those in zoos who trample their trainers , there is always an element of danger with any wild animal.
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Those particular elephants? it would explain how she got so close but even then look at the circus elephants and those in zoos who trample their trainers , there is always an element of danger with any wild animal.
Not in this instance.
Game animals are not abused by humans like circus animals and they are desensitized to humans as they feed them as well.
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You admitted you eat meat you're a hypocrite she just had the balls to do what you're paying other people to do , she didn't eat the meat big deal others did nothing ( presumably ) went to waste another animal dead in the cycle of life , as always life goes on.
youre giving me a headache, like several people already said, the whole point is killing an animal for the sake of pleasure, celebrating this cowardly act while the animal is slowly tortured to death.
you really think the fat american was a single moment in danger? get a grip dude.
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Those particular elephants? it would explain how she got so close but even then look at the circus elephants and those in zoos who trample their trainers , there is always an element of danger with any wild animal.
Yes..There is..But when with a herd of elephants who are used to humans, Elephants normally ignore the human. They might be curious some times but not aggressive.
She can draw a big bow, That should be respected.
Kill a tiger with a gun,That should be respected
BUT Killing an elephant for a bet? FUCK NO.
An Isolated lonely elephant is entirely different though.
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I don't like hunting animals, but i would like to have a couple of animal heads hanging on the wall.
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Even though it has nothing to do with this topic, I'd like to add that "The Ghost and the Darkness" is one of the best movies ever made.
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Even though it has nothing to do with this topic, I'd like to add that "The Ghost and the Darkness" is one of the best movies ever made.
I remember that one. Might have to watch it again soon.
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RE post sorry
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I remember that one. Might have to watch it again soon.
Definitely one of those flicks that are re-watchable...no doubt about it, as you like to say.
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Even though it has nothing to do with this topic, I'd like to add that "The Ghost and the Darkness" is one of the best movies ever made.
kiwi, I played in a few basketball leagues that the title of that movie would describe very well.... ;D
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Even though it has nothing to do with this topic, I'd like to add that "The Ghost and the Darkness" is one of the best movies ever made.
I myself prefer "Shaving Ryan's Privates" ;D
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I myself prefer "Shaving Ryan's Privates" ;D
Is that the one starring Ryan Seacrest? ;D
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kiwi, I played in a few basketball leagues that the title of that movie would describe very well.... ;D
I myself prefer "Shaving Ryan's Privates" ;D
Hahahaha