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Title: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 05:27:42 AM
Obama's top secret service agent fired.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=076_1248168842

A Secret Service Agent, responsible for protecting President Obama, was fired today under questionable reasons, according to top aides.

The Agent was reportedly tired of overhearing personal gripes by the Obama Family about certain demograhics in the United States. The Agent, who has not been identified as of today, brought his concerns staright to the President Obama, who later had him removed fr More..om his current assignment. More to come as story unfolds. Less..

________________________ ________________________ ________

Oh boy, this is going to get good!



 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: James on July 22, 2009, 05:44:04 AM
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Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 05:45:17 AM
Rev. Wright is going to make a huge comeback!
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: GigantorX on July 22, 2009, 06:47:58 AM
If this is true then Michelle Obama's comments during the campaign make perfect sense.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 06:50:19 AM
If this is true then Michelle Obama's comments during the campaign make perfect sense.

I cant wait for more of this come out. 

Day by day, hour by hour, many of us are being proven 10000% correct about Obama and what he is all about.   
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 22, 2009, 09:52:44 AM
I cant wait for more of this come out. 

Day by day, hour by hour, many of us are being proven 10000% correct about Obama and what he is all about.   
minorities have rights too,,,people need to be repsented and obama is the person to do this I been underrepretensted in this lifetime for my great achievements,,,now I have gone underground to do things I have accepted it
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Butterbean on July 22, 2009, 10:01:11 AM
If this is true then Michelle Obama's comments during the campaign make perfect sense.

What comments?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 22, 2009, 10:03:08 AM
Obama's top secret service agent fired.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=076_1248168842

A Secret Service Agent, responsible for protecting President Obama, was fired today under questionable reasons, according to top aides.

The Agent was reportedly tired of overhearing personal gripes by the Obama Family about certain demograhics in the United States. The Agent, who has not been identified as of today, brought his concerns staright to the President Obama, who later had him removed fr More..om his current assignment. More to come as story unfolds. Less..

________________________ ________________________ ________

Oh boy, this is going to get good!



 

Did he fire him or have him removed from his current assignment?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 22, 2009, 10:04:18 AM
Did he fire him or have him removed from his current assignment?
he had him removed form his currrent assignment sources tell me,,,he was not fired not this fella anyways he is doing the agent just moved to do other things media is taking this the wrong way
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: tonymctones on July 22, 2009, 10:23:16 AM
minorities have rights too,,,people need to be repsented and obama is the person to do this I been underrepretensted in this lifetime for my great achievements,,,now I have gone underground to do things I have accepted it
you have been underreppresented b/c your culture values different shit, dont blame society for that.

what accomplishments and what makes them any better then any other persons accomplishments? quit thinking your fuking special and understand we are all the same...
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 10:28:11 AM
you have been underreppresented b/c your culture values different shit, dont blame society for that.

what accomplishments and what makes them any better then any other persons accomplishments? quit thinking your fuking special and understand we are all the same...

What are you talking about.  Now is "their time" because the "the one" is in office. 

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: GigantorX on July 22, 2009, 10:54:16 AM
he had him removed form his currrent assignment sources tell me,,,he was not fired not this fella anyways he is doing the agent just moved to do other things media is taking this the wrong way

So now GH15 posts here? :-\
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: James on July 22, 2009, 11:08:09 AM
Quote
So now GH15 posts here? Undecided

 ;D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: BM OUT on July 22, 2009, 11:15:47 AM
Obama is a racist!!!The very fact that his justice department drops the charges against the black panthers for intimidating whites outside a voting station and is now investigating the kids who got turned away at the pool proves it.Obama IS rev. Wright.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 11:17:17 AM
Obama is a racist!!!The very fact that his justice department drops the charges against the black panthers for intimidating whites outside a voting station and is now investigating the kids who got turned away at the pool proves it.Obama IS rev. Wright.

Remember this? 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: James on July 22, 2009, 11:22:15 AM
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Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Kazan on July 22, 2009, 11:28:10 AM
he had him removed form his currrent assignment sources tell me,,,he was not fired not this fella anyways he is doing the agent just moved to do other things media is taking this the wrong way

I didn't realize they allowed internet access from an asylum
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 22, 2009, 01:45:20 PM
So basically this article is a spin job?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 22, 2009, 01:48:34 PM
So basically this article is a spin job?

This came out last night and there are more details that will come out in the next few days. 

 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 22, 2009, 01:53:04 PM
Barry is in charge...Barry can do what he wants...until Barry is revealed as a naive liberal anti-American douchbag leftist.

Yep that book is real..... ::)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 01:55:19 PM
was the man FIRED?

Yes or no?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 22, 2009, 02:00:37 PM
I can't find a reputable link to the story nor anything more then the original.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 22, 2009, 05:19:17 PM
was the man FIRED?

Yes or no?
NO
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 05:19:44 PM
I can't find a reputable link to the story nor anything more then the original.

I'm sure 333386 will provide it.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 22, 2009, 06:46:45 PM
This came out last night and there are more details that will come out in the next few days. 

 

The article says he's not fired, yet the title of the article does....

SPIN JOB
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: GigantorX on July 22, 2009, 06:53:37 PM
The article says he's not fired, yet the title of the article does....

SPIN JOB

Sure is. But I take interest in what the article has to say, not the thread title.

But you should mod the title, either way.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 22, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
Sure is. But I take interest in what the article has to say, not the thread title.

But you should mod the title, either way.

I don't know that i need to mod the title.  But either way the article doesn't say much other than the agent was reassigned for undisclosed reasons. 

I'm all for calling out the Obama admin for what they do, but not for cheesy spin jobs like this.

This seems like a non story.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: GigantorX on July 22, 2009, 08:13:12 PM
I don't know that i need to mod the title.  But either way the article doesn't say much other than the agent was reassigned for undisclosed reasons. 

I'm all for calling out the Obama admin for what they do, but not for cheesy spin jobs like this.

This seems like a non story.

Fair enough.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: George Whorewell on July 22, 2009, 08:31:50 PM
he had him removed form his currrent assignment sources tell me,,,he was not fired not this fella anyways he is doing the agent just moved to do other things media is taking this the wrong way

ROFL- SOURCES TOLD YOU THIS? The flys circling above your head buzzed this information into your ear? Did the homeless guy that lent you bus fare last week disclose this information? LOLOL

My "sources" on planet Mercury and at the North Pole inform me that your full of shit.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 22, 2009, 08:40:47 PM
333386,

did the dude get fired?  If so, that's the story of the year.

If he got moved because obama didn't like him getting offended, it's a non-story.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 23, 2009, 06:04:54 AM
333386,

did the dude get fired?  If so, that's the story of the year.

If he got moved because obama didn't like him getting offended, it's a non-story.

Read the story, it says details are still coming out.  I'm sure the guy himself is probably talking to lawyers right now.  Maybe hes working a book deal. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Cap on July 23, 2009, 09:19:23 PM
A certain spin here but it's obviously not great for his career to be taken off the best detail in the Service.

It's interesting to hear the Obama's are racist.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: George Whorewell on July 23, 2009, 09:28:53 PM
Yes its quite a revelation. I would have never thought that with all their personal associations that either Barry or his wife the Extra Terrestrial would have been racist at all.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 23, 2009, 10:03:03 PM
333386,

did the dude get fired?  If so, that's the story of the year.

If he got moved because obama didn't like him getting offended, it's a non-story.

Not only would it be a non-story, ...it would also demonstrate courtesy & consideration on Obama's part.

Secret Service essentially become part of the family so-to-speak. they're required to be there constantly.
Having to spend time with others in a situation where you are bored or uncomfortable isn't fun. Obama or his staff could have simply said "Tough. It's your job. Grin & Bear it". Transfering someone in such a situation demonstrates courtesy, respect, and consideration for the individual involved. If you have to be joined at the hip with someone, wouldn't you rather it be with someone you enjoyed spending time with, who enjoyed the same pursuits as yourself? What you most of you rather be? ...bodyguards to an athlete who loved to work out in the gym frequently? ...or bodyguards to a philatelist who went to endless stamp collecting conventions and antiquated museums? Every day has 24 hrs. 24 hrs a day is not enough time when doing what we love, ...it's also too much time when it's spent doing things that bore us to tears.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Cap on July 24, 2009, 04:24:25 PM
Yes its quite a revelation. I would have never thought that with all their personal associations that either Barry or his wife the Extra Terrestrial would have been racist at all.
I was being sarcastic.

It's good the guy still has a job somewhere in the SS but he won't be on another president detail for at least four years, if ever.  It doesn't look good in his record.  It's interesting a president under such close scrutiny would make racist or offensive comments.  He should watch what he says, kinda like in the Cambridge Police incident.  His wife making those kinds of comments doesn't surprise me.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: blacken700 on July 24, 2009, 06:47:45 PM
A simple post from some guy who joined LiveLeak on July 12. Totally unverified. The guy's in Alaska. Everyone one knows how Alaskans always get the inside scoop on everything that happens in D.C., what with Alaska being the central location for all of our intelligence-gathering assets. (You know, Alaska being so close to Russia and all.)

The post has been there a day. Not one verification, not one hint of support, other than this unsubstantiated claim by Alaska Guy.
No reason to give this any sort of credence whatsoever. But, hey, it's anti-Obama. That's all you need for 333386 to swallow it like a starving fish and post it here as gospel.

Ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2009, 07:03:51 PM
Rev. Wright is going to make a huge comeback!



you never give up do you???
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 24, 2009, 07:06:33 PM
Barry is in charge...Barry can do what he wants...until Barry is revealed as a naive liberal anti-American douchbag leftist.

Yep that book is real..... ::)


your out of your mind
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 24, 2009, 07:21:51 PM
What because I don't like the douchebag in chief and have'nt fallen for his bullshit. Read his website on White House.gov and then tell me if and when he plans to do any of that crap. We were studying his defence paper...all kinds of bs about enlarging in the military and defending allies like Israel. We just cut 3 BDE's despite Gates' speech about adding 20X troops. My deploying BDE just lost 10 million in deployment funds....not to mention all the bullshit about Israel. Barry is full of shit. There is what he says and then what he does.....never the two shall meet, unless its on his leftist agenda.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 02:20:18 AM
The article says he's not fired, yet the title of the article does....

SPIN JOB


From my POV, this thing looks like it's a complete and total spin job, ...and or trial balloon.
Throw a vague rumour out there, let people read whatever they want to into it, and see if it gains traction.  :-\

I don't know that i need to mod the title.  But either way the article doesn't say much other than the agent was reassigned for undisclosed reasons. 

I'm all for calling out the Obama admin for what they do, but not for cheesy spin jobs like this.

This seems like a non story.


I have to go with GigantorX on this one.

It's just like when Sampson posted Obama had been caught smoking crack. 333386's title states Obama is racist.
It an assumptive close, and presumes something that hasn't been established. It's a lie, and it libels the President.

If we look at the snippet in it's entirety, and if it is to be believed... all it says is "certain demographics"

=== <vague rumour> ===

A Secret Service Agent, responsible for protecting President Obama, was fired today under questionable reasons, according to top aides. The Agent was reportedly tired of overhearing personal gripes by the Obama Family about certain demograhics in the United States. The Agent, who has not been identified as of today, brought his concerns staright to the President Obama, who later had him removed fr More..om his current assignment. More to come as story unfolds.

=== </vague rumour> ===

Who is anyone of us to say the "demographics" referred to is one of race?
-It could be an economic demographic ie: The rich elite complaining about a 3% tax cut that will expire.
-It could be an age demographic: ie: elderly people complaining about young whippersnappers.
-It could be a lifestyle demographic: ie: Lesbians & Gays unwilling to accept less than the equal right to marry.
-It could be a political demographic: ie: Birther's complaining about the lack of a certificate for their perusal,
or even Democrats complaining he hasn't gone far enough with healthcare reforms. It could be anything!

We have no way of knowing what demographic is being referred to, ...yet 333386 libels the President.

You know what I think of 333386's choice of a thread title?

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/racist.gif)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on July 25, 2009, 05:04:23 AM
Not only would it be a non-story, ...it would also demonstrate courtesy & consideration on Obama's part.

Secret Service essentially become part of the family so-to-speak. they're required to be there constantly.
Having to spend time with others in a situation where you are bored or uncomfortable isn't fun. Obama or his staff could have simply said "Tough. It's your job. Grin & Bear it". Transfering someone in such a situation demonstrates courtesy, respect, and consideration for the individual involved. If you have to be joined at the hip with someone, wouldn't you rather it be with someone you enjoyed spending time with, who enjoyed the same pursuits as yourself? What you most of you rather be? ...bodyguards to an athlete who loved to work out in the gym frequently? ...or bodyguards to a philatelist who went to endless stamp collecting conventions and antiquated museums? Every day has 24 hrs. 24 hrs a day is not enough time when doing what we love, ...it's also too much time when it's spent doing things that bore us to tears.

Wrong! If I'm your boss and I keep saying how I hate black people and tell you that I can change your position if you don't like than I'm the one who's committing a felony.

I guess when a black guy does it than it can't be racist  ::)
Or when that same black guy calls his Police officers stupid  ::)
Or when he screams AMEN after Rev.Wright calls for the death of the white man  ::)

You are a racist bitch.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 05:12:00 AM
Wrong! If I'm your boss and I keep saying how I hate black people and tell you that I can change your position if you don't like than I'm the one who's committing a felony.

I guess when a black guy does it than it can't be racist  ::)
Or when that same black guy calls his Police officers stupid  ::)
Or when he screams AMEN after Rev.Wright calls for the death of the white man  ::)

You are a racist bitch.

 ::)

...ummm, perhaps you might want to re-read what I wrote... as well as the original snippet.
While you're at it, ...why not consider the facts, ...not the rumour, innuendo, & unsubstantiated allegations?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 05:40:45 AM
I simply posted the article i found.  I did not libel anyone.

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 06:01:18 AM
There is no info on this issue, either there was nothing said, or that the SS agent  is way to sensitive, considering the fact that behind close doors White people talk about black folk everyday---if there was any such convo.

I'm more appalled at Obama getting involved in the Gates incident.

Furthermore IFBB, if a officer can't stand being yelled out, then he needs to remove his wussy ass from the force.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Cap on July 25, 2009, 07:00:10 AM
There is no info on this issue, either there was nothing said, or that the SS agent  is way to sensitive, considering the fact that behind close doors White people talk about black folk everyday---if there was any such convo.

I'm more appalled at Obama getting involved in the Gates incident.

Furthermore IFBB, if a officer can't stand being yelled out, then he needs to remove his wussy ass from the force.
It sounds like he just did his job when a man became belligerent. With some departments I know of he could have gone straight to OC spray on Mr. Gates. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: George Whorewell on July 25, 2009, 07:09:07 AM
IFBB is right 110%. Jag as usual has blinders on and is taking a position that makes zero sense. The difference would have been that no white couple in such a high position of prominence would have made such racist remarks in the presence of a black secret service agent in the first place. And, if they did- you bet your caramel colored ass the whole media would descend on the white house like buzzards picking a dead hyena corpse dry.

Furthermore, you applauding Obama for not saying to the white SS agent- "Tough Luck, grin and bare it?" Are you for real? I suppose that having a black president gives the black first family the right to treat white employees like its the Jim Crow South but in reverse. We dont want those white SS agents getting "uppity"- they better just hush and do their job.  ::)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 07:18:53 AM
I simply posted the article i found.  I did not libel anyone.


Please point out where in the article it stated that Obama was racist. I somehow missed it.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 07:19:32 AM
IFBB is right 110%. Jag as usual has blinders on and is taking a position that makes zero sense. The difference would have been that no white couple in such a high position of prominence would have made such racist remarks in the presence of a black secret service agent in the first place. And, if they did- you bet your caramel colored ass the whole media would descend on the white house like buzzards picking a dead hyena corpse dry.

Furthermore, you applauding Obama for not saying to the white SS agent- "Tough Luck, grin and bare it?" Are you for real? I suppose that having a black president gives the black first family the right to treat white employees like its the Jim Crow South but in reverse. We dont want those white SS agents getting "uppity"- they better just hush and do their job.  ::)

Dude, we don't know what was said. And you don't know that "no white couple in such high position of prominence would have said..." Because I am willing to bet you over the years that has happened, when it comes to heads of state or CEO's and their security detail. It comes with the territory. And for some black men, we have been condition to "grin and bare it".

As I stated, we don't know what was said, what happened, or even if it was made up. But lap it up if you will. To me if there is no info, then it is a non-issue.

It sounds like he just did his job when a man became belligerent. With some departments I know of he could have gone straight to OC spray on Mr. Gates. 

True, but it seems like the PO has not seen real disrespect, I've seen officers yelled at quite worse and keep their cool, and talking about some foul language...If you can't keep a cool head over a guy who obviously is upset over the fact that he is being questioned about being in his own home, then you need to re-analyze why you are on the force.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2009, 07:30:09 AM
33 is oddly silent on this thread now.

did you find another source on this one?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 07:33:51 AM
33 is oddly silent on this thread now.

did you find another source on this one?

Kinda odd how the artilce says he has been fired, then re-assigned. You can't be fired and then re-assigned, re-assigned means that you are still on the job. Fired means, you are not. And then it has some pic of a dude in shades, yet it says that the SS agent hasn't been identified? When things don't add up, the credibility should be questioned.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Kazan on July 25, 2009, 07:36:00 AM
This whole thing is almost comical, when Bush was Potus he was automatically guilty of any hint or speculation of wrong doing. Now that Obama is POTUS the same people who were conviting Bush over any rumor are now defending Obama saying we don't know all information.

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: George Whorewell on July 25, 2009, 07:40:20 AM
Dude, we don't know what was said. And you don't know that "no white couple in such high position of prominence would have said..." Because I am willing to bet you over the years that has happened, when it comes to heads of state or CEO's and their security detail. It comes with the territory. And for some black men, we have been condition to "grin and bare it".

As I stated, we don't know what was said, what happened, or even if it was made up. But lap it up if you will. To me if there is no info, then it is a non-issue.

True, but it seems like the PO has not seen real disrespect, I've seen officers yelled at quite worse and keep their cool, and talking about some foul language...If you can't keep a cool head over a guy who obviously is upset over the fact that he is being questioned about being in his own home, then you need to re-analyze why you are on the force.

You're right. We dont know what was said. But if this article is accurate, there is no defense- especially not Jags. And comparing security detail for a CEO to the most powerful person on earth, c'mon dude. Theres a huge difference. The fact that you claim some black men have to grin and bare is irrelevant to this topic. Forget about two wrongs not making a right, in this day and age- with the media and lawsuits, that grin and bare it shit has run its course. Someone raking in a billion dollars would either have to pay the guy off or have the media up his ass or in court. Nothing comes with the territory anymore, especially not when your working for the President. This isn't the 60's. it's 2009.  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 07:41:49 AM
IFBB is right 110%. Jag as usual has blinders on and is taking a position that makes zero sense. The difference would have been that no white couple in such a high position of prominence would have made such racist remarks in the presence of a black secret service agent in the first place. And, if they did- you bet your caramel colored ass the whole media would descend on the white house like buzzards picking a dead hyena corpse dry.

Furthermore, you applauding Obama for not saying to the white SS agent- "Tough Luck, grin and bare it?" Are you for real? I suppose that having a black president gives the black first family the right to treat white employees like its the Jim Crow South but in reverse. We dont want those white SS agents getting "uppity"- they better just hush and do their job.  ::)

George,

i'm truly at a loss here. Could you please ellucidate for me what racist remarks you're claiming the first family made?

Who is mentioning colour or race here? ...other than the rumour mongers, trolls, and those who have been swept up by the manipulative attempts to paint America's first family as racist? Has it even been revealed what "certain demographics" are being discussed. If I had to go on my gut instinct, with no more evidence than what has been disclosed thus far, ...I'd say the "certain demographics" in question is the Gay & Lesbian one. It would not surprise me to discover that perhaps maybe someone in the household, ...and bear in mind, he brought a few people to live with him in the White house, has a more traditional view of marriage, and is sick & tired of hearing about gay marriage. I know I for one am sick and tired about hearing it. I wish the darned issue was settled already, that they could have equal rights with the rest of Americans, and we could put the issue to rest. It's quite possible that a gay Secret Service agent may take issue with having to hear complaints about the ongoing controversy. No one has established the Secret Service agent as a white man. No one has even established what complaints he took issue with. No one has even ascertained whether or not the Secret Service agent requested the re-assignment. There are no facts, only innuendo, speculation, and passionate knee-jerk reactions.

Let's sit back, and take a look at the facts. This is of course... beltway politics albeit via Alaska I hear.
I mean, ...it's not like political opponents would resort to spreading rumours & fanning the flames of paranoia is it?
We all know the political strategists, detractors, and character assasins, are above these sorts of dirty tricks... no?  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 07:43:40 AM
This whole thing is almost comical, when Bush was Potus he was automatically guilty of any hint or speculation of wrong doing. Now that Obama is POTUS the same people who were conviting Bush over any rumor are now defending Obama saying we don't know all information.



Unless you can provide us with more, or refute what i said, it's nothing. Now I just thought that Bush was complete idiot (okay, a smart idiot), he wasn't smart enoguh to do any and all of the so called wrong-doing,  and I never kept track of that. I believe that if this came out about Bush, and the same questions I put forth have not been answered, then it's moot, a dead, if not a non-issue.  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 25, 2009, 07:43:44 AM
Fox nwes - especially with obama's comments on gates - would be ALL OVER this story.

the fact that 'liveleak' is the only place we've seen it, probably means it is BS.

This could be a story that would drop obama ten points, if people believe he is a racist.  it's astounding how LOW the level of required evidence has become here.  Some kid makes a liveleak video and suddenly "Obama's TOP agent FIRED".  Just because 33 and friends want it to be, just so bad.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 07:46:12 AM
Wrong! If I'm your boss and I keep saying how I hate black people and tell you that I can change your position if you don't like than I'm the one who's committing a felony.

I guess when a black guy does it than it can't be racist  ::)
Or when that same black guy calls his Police officers stupid  ::)
Or when he screams AMEN after Rev.Wright calls for the death of the white man  ::)

You are a racist bitch.


First of all you dumbass, Jaguar is not a bitch and is not racist...If you can't take her on intellectually then don't post here...you have no idea whatsoever if the president is racist or not, you are relying on hearsay because it fits your own racist agenda....

The president has the right to have people guarding him whom he is comfortable with and who are comfortable with him....he is the most powerful man in the world and can do things like transferring an agent....why are you so caught up in that???

I especially resent you calling Jaguar a bitch....that word is always the last resort when certain men like yourself can't compete with women who are smarter and more perceptive than you.....if you don't like her opinion, too bad for you...go curl up in a corner in a fetal position and cry your eyes out..or go start a gay thread if you are so threatened by the opinions of women so you can converse only with men..

Dumbass :'(
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 07:46:21 AM
Fox nwes - especially with obama's comments on gates - would be ALL OVER this story.

the fact that 'liveleak' is the only place we've seen it, probably means it is BS.

This could be a story that would drop obama ten points, if people believe he is a racist.  it's astounding how LOW the level of required evidence has become here.  Some kid makes a liveleak video and suddenly "Obama's TOP agent FIRED".  Just because 33 and friends want it to be, just so bad.

Priceless 240, priceless.  

You have promoted every 911 CT, Palin CT, etc, and I post a article I found and I am the CT'er?

BTW - Rev. Wright, the gates affair, Bill Ayeres, Rashidi, "White man's greed, rules a world in need", etc, is enough alone for me to know Obama hates whites.  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 07:48:39 AM
IFBB is right 110%. Jag as usual has blinders on and is taking a position that makes zero sense. The difference would have been that no white couple in such a high position of prominence would have made such racist remarks in the presence of a black secret service agent in the first place. And, if they did- you bet your caramel colored ass the whole media would descend on the white house like buzzards picking a dead hyena corpse dry.

Furthermore, you applauding Obama for not saying to the white SS agent- "Tough Luck, grin and bare it?" Are you for real? I suppose that having a black president gives the black first family the right to treat white employees like its the Jim Crow South but in reverse. We dont want those white SS agents getting "uppity"- they better just hush and do their job.  ::)


you're way over the line......come back to earth..I'm disappointed in you George..you are usually very level-headed and don't fall for trick articles like that one... wait for all the facts to come out.....it's amazing that people can't wait to tear down the president, and comments which include Jim crow and SS agents is way way over the top.....

I'll give you a pass and assume you didn't take your medication yesterday.....you know..the pills that control your delusions?? ;D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 25, 2009, 07:49:51 AM
Priceless 240, priceless.  

You have promoted every 911 CT, Palin CT, etc, and I post a article I found and I am the CT'er?

BTW - Rev. Wright, the gates affair, Bill Ayeres, Rashidi, "White man's greed, rules a world in need", etc, is enough alone for me to know Obama hates whites.  
no,,obama is not racists against whites he is racists against some other folks,,,i wont say
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Kazan on July 25, 2009, 07:54:37 AM
no,,obama is not racists against whites he is racists against some other folks,,,i wont say

For cripe sake start taking your Zotepine again, the world will be so much clearer for you
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 07:56:11 AM
For cripe sake start taking your Zotepine again, the world will be so much clearer for you

He has a secret link to the WH. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 08:00:53 AM
He has a secret link to the WH. 

333386..you are really embarrassing us Bronxites with your racist conspiracy theories....accept that Obama is your president..I know that you never thought the day would come where a black man would be YOUR president....

LIVE WITH IT..it will only be for eight years of your life :D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 08:05:45 AM
333386..you are really embarrassing us Bronxites with your racist conspiracy theories....accept that Obama is your president..I know that you never thought the day would come where a black man would be YOUR president....

LIVE WITH IT..it will only be for eight years of your life :D

Jockstrap has said many times that he has sources in the WH.

I dislike Obama because is a marxist fraud, not because he is black.  What does his color have to do with pursuing insane policies that have no basis in sound economics? 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Kazan on July 25, 2009, 08:07:47 AM
333386..you are really embarrassing us Bronxites with your racist conspiracy theories....accept that Obama is your president..I know that you never thought the day would come where a black man would be YOUR president....

LIVE WITH IT..it will only be for eight years of your life :D

Back to the race crap again huh?

It can't be because his policies would be disasterous to America, it has to be racist.

It's getting old, you can only play the race card so many time before it is removed from the game
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 08:12:10 AM
Jockstrap has said many times that he has sources in the WH.

I dislike Obama because is a marxist fraud, not because he is black.  What does his color have to do with pursuing insane policies that have no basis in sound economics? 



your hatred of Obama goes beyond that....or you would have started a post about his economic policies and not this racist post where you are trying to smear him with attitudes that actually reflect your own racism...

I'm not saying you are a bad guy....and I don't believe you hate black people....but you are unnerved by the fact that a black man is in the white house and you feel threatened....like something is not right with the world....

here is the perfect opportunity to reject your own past racist thoughts about black people....get over it....embrace and accept YOUR president..join the civilized world... :D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 08:14:14 AM
Back to the race crap again huh?

It can't be because his policies would be disasterous to America, it has to be racist.

It's getting old, you can only play the race card so many time before it is removed from the game



it's not race crap as you put it....and actually 333 started this thread about race.....not about his "disastrous economic policies"..speak to him
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Kazan on July 25, 2009, 08:17:24 AM


it's not race crap as you put it....and actually 333 started this thread about race.....not about his "disastrous economic policies"..speak to him

for all you know 33 could be a black man. And your continued attempts to frame his as a racist are ridiculous at best. It's always the same with you guys as soon as anything thing is said that you don't like you have to hang a label on someone in an attempt to discredit anything they say.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 08:26:19 AM


your hatred of Obama goes beyond that....or you would have started a post about his economic policies and not this racist post where you are trying to smear him with attitudes that actually reflect your own racism...

I'm not saying you are a bad guy....and I don't believe you hate black people....but you are unnerved by the fact that a black man is in the white house and you feel threatened....like something is not right with the world....

here is the perfect opportunity to reject your own past racist thoughts about black people....get over it....embrace and accept YOUR president..join the civilized world... :D



Gimme a break..the guy is an epic disaster regardless of race. Barry is the guy who has the race problem by commenting on the Cambridge thing or attending a racist church for 20 years. 3 starts economic posts on this moron all the time. I was also wondering which part of the civilized world we should join, as Barry couldn't get elected anywhere in Europe or asia so that illiminates a huge chunk of it.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 08:27:25 AM

First of all you dumbass, Jaguar is not a bitch and is not racist...If you can't take her on intellectually then don't post here...you have no idea whatsoever if the president is racist or not, you are relying on hearsay because it fits your own racist agenda....

The president has the right to have people guarding him whom he is comfortable with and who are comfortable with him....he is the most powerful man in the world and can do things like transferring an agent....why are you so caught up in that???

I especially resent you calling Jaguar a bitch....that word is always the last resort when certain men like yourself can't compete with women who are smarter and more perceptive than you.....if you don't like her opinion, too bad for you...go curl up in a corner in a fetal position and cry your eyes out..or go start a gay thread if you are so threatened by the opinions of women so you can converse only with men..

Dumbass :'(

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/kiss.gif)

André, this kiss is for you. Thank You.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 08:27:31 AM
well..you don't understand our history...333 and I live in the Bronx and we always go at it all the time..I am not putting him down and if you read my posts and look at the tone I am actually tweaking him...not tearing him down....


some people are not Overt racists....but they harbor some inner ill will toward blacks for whatever reason....I'm just trying to help 333 find that inner ill will, reflect on it, and move on in a more positive direction...

I hated all the Bush bashers on here as well....it was insane how people would tear him down

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 08:31:52 AM
(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/kiss.gif)

André, this kiss is for you. Thank You.



Awwwww...thank you Jaguar..I'm blushing :-*
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 08:34:40 AM
for all you know 33 could be a black man. And your continued attempts to frame his as a racist are ridiculous at best. It's always the same with you guys as soon as anything thing is said that you don't like you have to hang a label on someone in an attempt to discredit anything they say.

I'm still waiting for an explanation by 333386 as to why he felt it was necessary to state
"...agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!"

I'm beginning to feel like Clara Peller... where's the racism? ...except for in the subject title?

C'mon Kazan, ya have to admit, based on the evidence thus far disclosed, the response was a very prejudiced one.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:01:17 AM


your hatred of Obama goes beyond that....or you would have started a post about his economic policies and not this racist post where you are trying to smear him with attitudes that actually reflect your own racism...

I'm not saying you are a bad guy....and I don't believe you hate black people....but you are unnerved by the fact that a black man is in the white house and you feel threatened....like something is not right with the world....

here is the perfect opportunity to reject your own past racist thoughts about black people....get over it....embrace and accept YOUR president..join the civilized world... :D

Your a fool.  99% of my posts are on economic matters.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:07:58 AM
well..you don't understand our history...333 and I live in the Bronx and we always go at it all the time..I am not putting him down and if you read my posts and look at the tone I am actually tweaking him...not tearing him down....


some people are not Overt racists....but they harbor some inner ill will toward blacks for whatever reason....I'm just trying to help 333 find that inner ill will, reflect on it, and move on in a more positive direction...

I hated all the Bush bashers on here as well....it was insane how people would tear him down





I can stand frauds, liars, and marxists.  Barry is everyone of those.  If his name were Berry Obamastein, Barry O'Malley, Barry Obamaino, Barry Obamez, I would eel the same way.

He is a disgrace.  Call me names all you like, because you and I both know you cant hold a candle to any of my economic arguments against the policies he pursues.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 09:11:20 AM
Your a fool.  99% of my posts are on economic matters.

I'm not enquiring about 99% of your posts, ...I'm asking about this particular one and your choice of title.

Where's the racism? Or can you admit your choice of title was a very prejudiced one?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:20:03 AM
I'm not enquiring about 99% of your posts, ...I'm asking about this particular one and your choice of title.

Where's the racism? Or can you admit your choice of title was a very prejudiced one?

Here is a pic of the guy:

If the story is true, 100% take it to the bank that Obama was complaining about white or jews. 

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on July 25, 2009, 09:24:11 AM
For cripe sake start taking your Zotepine again, the world will be so much clearer for you
fella,,,if you only knew who you are talking too i can get secrect service to knock down your door right now,,,but you might be just a little kiddie that is gonna get scared everythign I have said already on the getbig boards come true so far your just angry obama is president and you have him for doing a good job you waiting for one little slips up shere and there,,,if bush did you would ignore it,,,its ok fella
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 09:24:39 AM
Here is a pic of the guy:

If the story is true, 100% take it to the bank that Obama was complaining about white or jews. 


Is that a picture of the secret service agent, or a picture of the person who posted the snippet on live leak?

I'm going to make a few calls to see what I can dredge up that may or may not shed some light on this.

In the meantime, could you please consider answering my question? Thanks.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 09:26:07 AM


I can stand frauds, liars, and marxists.  Barry is everyone of those.  If his name were Berry Obamastein, Barry O'Malley, Barry Obamaino, Barry Obamez, I would eel the same way.

He is a disgrace.  Call me names all you like, because you and I both know you cant hold a candle to any of my economic arguments against the policies he pursues.


WOW.....a fraud, liar, and marxist.....yet your thread title doesn't mention these topics, it just goes right to his being a racist....that's the point we are making....and that is the point we are disputing.....

again I think u want Obama to be a racist to justify your own racist thoughts about him
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 09:30:02 AM
fella,,,if you only knew who you are talking too i can get secrect service to knock down your door right now,,,but you might be just a little kiddie that is gonna get scared everythign I have said already on the getbig boards come true so far your just angry obama is president and you have him for doing a good job you waiting for one little slips up shere and there,,,if bush did you would ignore it,,,its ok fella


Guys I'd worry...I really don't know who or what the "secrect service" are but they must take orders from a semi retard who can't spell. I'd worry. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:30:16 AM
Is that a picture of the secret service agent, or a picture of the person who posted the snippet on live leak?

I'm going to make a few calls to see what I can dredge up that may or may not shed some light on this.

In the meantime, could you please consider answering my question? Thanks.

Which is what?  You have to suspend all common sense and reality to not think Obama has racist influences in him.  Jag, your problem is that, along with the other Obamabots, is that you refused to look at the real Obama, as opposed to the story book image created for you by a fawning media.  

Rev. Wright, Ayeres, his own stupid book about his father, Saul Alinsky, Khalid Rashidi, Odinga, Gates, etc.  

In his own book he said he alingned himself with the marxists and radicals.  

  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 09:38:04 AM
Goddamit stop with facts would u....using Obama quotes written in easily accessible books is not fair. Barry was misquoted...by Barry. He really didn't mean that...he ment um..ahh...yeah um...he ment that he ..........uaahhaha.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 09:42:52 AM
Which is what?  You have to suspend all common sense and reality to not think Obama has racist influences in him.  Jag, your problem is that, along with the other Obamabots, is that you refused to look at the real Obama, as opposed to the story book image created for you by a fawning media.  

Rev. Wright, Ayeres, his own stupid book about his father, Saul Alinsky, Khalid Rashidi, Odinga, Gates, etc.  

In his own book he said he alingned himself with the marxists and radicals.  
  

Which is : Where in the original live leak snippet, does it allege racism on Obama's part?
Can you admit your choice of subject title was a very prejudiced one.

Please address those questions before you forget. Go ahead, you can do it now before moving onto my next part.

As for his alignment with marxists & radicals. Since when did Marxism have anything to do with race.
Marxism is a political ideology. It's not about race. Furthermore, you throw in Ayres as support for your argument that obama is racist against whites, ...and try to support it further by citing a supposed reverence for Saul Alinsky as further support for a racist attitude against Jews?   :o    :o 

I know when you get to the end of a greased rope, the thing to do is to tie a big knot and hang on,
...but seriously, ...are you listening to yourself? Golly!  ::)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:43:28 AM
Goddamit stop with facts would u....using Obama quotes written in easily accessible books is not fair. Barry was misquoted...by Barry. He really didn't mean that...he ment um..ahh...yeah um...he ment that he ..........uaahhaha.

The Obamabots are a disgrace.  They can only name call me thinking that calling me a "racist" is going to negate the fact that:

1.  Stimulus = Failure
2.  Ayers, wRight, Odinga, Rashidi, Dreams of my Father, Gates, etc - Racist
3.  Health Care - failing miserably.
4.  Cap & Trade - Failing and massive tax hike on energy.
5.  Cabinet - full of tax cheats
6.  Bailouts - Worse than Bush
7.  Lied about closing Gitmo
8.  World Apology Tour


This is just the start.  Obama will be conisdered worse than Carter by the end of the year.    
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:46:49 AM
Which is : Where in the original live leak snippet, does it allege racism on Obama's part?
Can you admit your choice of subject title was a very prejudiced one.

Please address those questions before you forget. Go ahead, you can do it now before moving onto my next part.

As for his alignment with marxists & radicals. Since when did Marxism have anything to do with race.
Marxism is a political ideology. It's not about race. Furthermore, you throw in Ayres as support for your argument that obama is racist against whites, ...and try to support it further by citing a supposed reverence for Saul Alinsky as further support for a racist attitude against Jews?   :o    :o 

I know when you get to the end of a greased rope, the thing to do is to tie a big knot and hang on,
...but seriously, ...are you listening to yourself? Golly!  ::)

Saul Alinsky - self hating jew.
Ayers - Are you kidding me?
Rev. Wright  - do we really need to expose Obama's lies on this again?

As far as your question, I chose the term because it is plainly obvious, if the story is true, it is obvious it was about white or jews.

Additionally, he idiotic nonsense at his press conferance shows he is prejudiced against the cops and has a biased view on things, BEFORE EVEN KNOWING THE FACTS!
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 09:48:07 AM
Here is a pic of the guy:

If the story is true, 100% take it to the bank that Obama was complaining about white or jews. 



It is said his identity is unknown, yet they have a clear as day pic of a man in shades. Anybody by now could have id the man.  This story has no legs.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 09:49:33 AM
Barry apologized for everything or anything that America does but can't really apologize for Wright and couldn't really apologize for his stupid remarks about the cops.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 09:50:34 AM
It is said his identity is unknown, yet they have a clear as day pic of a man in shades. Anybody by now could have id the man.  This story has no legs.

Yeah I don't think there is much to this....
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:52:40 AM
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Quotes from the Obama autobiography, Dreams of my father

 
WARNING: These Quotes include Offensive Language and Racism.

"That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn."

"In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

" I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE"

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

"Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence."

'It was obvious that certain whites could be exempted from the general category of our distrust: Ray was always telling me how cool my grandparents were. The term white was simply a shorthand for him, I decided, a tag for what my mother would call a bigot. And although I recognized the risks in his terminology-how easy it was to fall into the same sloppy thinking that my basketball coach had displayed (“There are white folks, and then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you,” I had finally told the coach before walking off the court that day)-Ray assured me that we would never talk about whites as whites in front of whites without knowing exactly what we were doing. Without knowing that there might be a price to pay."

"To avoid being mistaken for a [racial] sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy."

“Sister Regina,” Marcus said. “You know Barack, don’t you? I’m trying to tell Brother Barack here about this racist tract he’s reading.” He held up a copy of Heart of Darkness , evidence for the court. I reached over to snatch it out of his hands…I tossed the book into my backpack. “Actually, he’s right,” I said. “It is a racist book. The way Conrad sees it, Africa’s the cesspool of the world, black folks are savages, and any contact with them breeds infection.”
Regina blew on her coffee. “So why are you reading it?” because the book teaches me things,” I said. “About white people, I mean. See, the book’s not really about Africa. Or black people. It’s about the man who wrote it. The European. The American. A particular way of looking at the world. If you can keep your distance, it’s all there, in what’s said and what’s left unsaid. So I read the book to help me understand just what it is that makes white people so afraid. Their demons. The way ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate.” “And that’s important to you.”My life depends on it, I thought to myself. But I didn’t tell Regina that. I just smiled and said, “That’s the only way to cure an illness, right? Diagnose it.”

"When the weather was good, my roommate and I might sit out on the fire escape to smoke cigarettes and study the dusk washing blue over the city, or watch white people from the better neighborhoods nearby walk their dogs down our block to let the animals shit on our curbs-“Scoop the poop, you bastards!” my roommate would shout with impressive rage, and we’d laugh at the faces of both master and beast, grim and unapologetic as they hunkered down to do the deed. I enjoyed such moments-but only in brief."

"As it was, I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds, understanding that each possessed its own language and customs and structures of meaning, convinced that with a bit of translation on my part the two worlds would eventually cohere. Still, the feeling that something wasn’t quite right stayed with me, a warning that sounded whenever a white girl mentioned in the middle of conversation how much she liked Stevie Wonder; or when a woman in the supermarket asked me if I played basketball; or when the school principal told me I was cool."
(Side Note, I'm White and get the Basketball question all the time, its the height, not the race, What a reactionary bozo.)


________________________ _____________________

Those are just some Jag.  From ZERO himself.  

The man is a racist.  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 09:53:05 AM

Guys I'd worry...I really don't know who or what the "secrect service" are but they must take orders from a semi retard who can't spell. I'd worry. 


HA! ;D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 09:54:00 AM
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Quotes from the Obama autobiography, Dreams of my father

 
WARNING: These Quotes include Offensive Language and Racism.

"That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn."

"In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

" I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE"

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

"Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence."

'It was obvious that certain whites could be exempted from the general category of our distrust: Ray was always telling me how cool my grandparents were. The term white was simply a shorthand for him, I decided, a tag for what my mother would call a bigot. And although I recognized the risks in his terminology-how easy it was to fall into the same sloppy thinking that my basketball coach had displayed (“There are white folks, and then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you,” I had finally told the coach before walking off the court that day)-Ray assured me that we would never talk about whites as whites in front of whites without knowing exactly what we were doing. Without knowing that there might be a price to pay."

"To avoid being mistaken for a [racial] sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy."

“Sister Regina,” Marcus said. “You know Barack, don’t you? I’m trying to tell Brother Barack here about this racist tract he’s reading.” He held up a copy of Heart of Darkness , evidence for the court. I reached over to snatch it out of his hands…I tossed the book into my backpack. “Actually, he’s right,” I said. “It is a racist book. The way Conrad sees it, Africa’s the cesspool of the world, black folks are savages, and any contact with them breeds infection.”
Regina blew on her coffee. “So why are you reading it?” because the book teaches me things,” I said. “About white people, I mean. See, the book’s not really about Africa. Or black people. It’s about the man who wrote it. The European. The American. A particular way of looking at the world. If you can keep your distance, it’s all there, in what’s said and what’s left unsaid. So I read the book to help me understand just what it is that makes white people so afraid. Their demons. The way ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate.” “And that’s important to you.”My life depends on it, I thought to myself. But I didn’t tell Regina that. I just smiled and said, “That’s the only way to cure an illness, right? Diagnose it.”

"When the weather was good, my roommate and I might sit out on the fire escape to smoke cigarettes and study the dusk washing blue over the city, or watch white people from the better neighborhoods nearby walk their dogs down our block to let the animals shit on our curbs-“Scoop the poop, you bastards!” my roommate would shout with impressive rage, and we’d laugh at the faces of both master and beast, grim and unapologetic as they hunkered down to do the deed. I enjoyed such moments-but only in brief."

"As it was, I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds, understanding that each possessed its own language and customs and structures of meaning, convinced that with a bit of translation on my part the two worlds would eventually cohere. Still, the feeling that something wasn’t quite right stayed with me, a warning that sounded whenever a white girl mentioned in the middle of conversation how much she liked Stevie Wonder; or when a woman in the supermarket asked me if I played basketball; or when the school principal told me I was cool."
(Side Note, I'm White and get the Basketball question all the time, its the height, not the race, What a reactionary bozo.)


________________________ _____________________

Those are just some Jag.  From ZERO himself.  

The man is a racist.  
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 09:59:28 AM
The Obamabots are a disgrace.  They can only name call me thinking that calling me a "racist" is going to negate the fact that:

I didn't call you a racist. I said "YOUR THREAD TITLE" was racist.
I didn't call your prejudiced. I said your response was.

love the sinner, hate the sin.  :-*

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This is just the start.  Obama will be conisdered worse than Carter by the end of the year.    

...especially if you have your way. But I think there are alot of people able to discern fact from fiction,
...and will be able to see past the bs being slung. Good luck tho.

Ps: you do know that under universal health care, optometrists visits will be covered right?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on July 25, 2009, 10:00:28 AM

HA! ;D

Ur in trouble now..u laughed. Do u want this turning up at ur door.....charter member of the jocktheglide retard attack squad.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:01:04 AM
Saturday, March 29, 2008
Quotes from the Obama autobiography, Dreams of my father

 
WARNING: These Quotes include Offensive Language and Racism.

"That’s just how white folks will do you. It wasn’t merely the cruelty involved; I was learning that black people could be mean and then some. It was a particular brand of arrogance, an obtuseness in otherwise sane people that brought forth our bitter laughter. It was as if whites didn’t know they were being cruel in the first place. Or at least thought you deserving of their scorn."

"In Indonesia, I had spent two years at a Muslim school"

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."

" I FOUND A SOLACE IN NURSING A PERVASIVE SENSE OF GRIEVANCE AND ANIMOSITY AGAINST MY MOTHER'S RACE"

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"

"Desperate times called for desperate measures, and for many blacks, times were chronically desperate. If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence."

'It was obvious that certain whites could be exempted from the general category of our distrust: Ray was always telling me how cool my grandparents were. The term white was simply a shorthand for him, I decided, a tag for what my mother would call a bigot. And although I recognized the risks in his terminology-how easy it was to fall into the same sloppy thinking that my basketball coach had displayed (“There are white folks, and then there are ignorant motherfuckers like you,” I had finally told the coach before walking off the court that day)-Ray assured me that we would never talk about whites as whites in front of whites without knowing exactly what we were doing. Without knowing that there might be a price to pay."

"To avoid being mistaken for a [racial] sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night, in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Franz Fanon, Eurocentrism, and patriarchy."

“Sister Regina,” Marcus said. “You know Barack, don’t you? I’m trying to tell Brother Barack here about this racist tract he’s reading.” He held up a copy of Heart of Darkness , evidence for the court. I reached over to snatch it out of his hands…I tossed the book into my backpack. “Actually, he’s right,” I said. “It is a racist book. The way Conrad sees it, Africa’s the cesspool of the world, black folks are savages, and any contact with them breeds infection.”
Regina blew on her coffee. “So why are you reading it?” because the book teaches me things,” I said. “About white people, I mean. See, the book’s not really about Africa. Or black people. It’s about the man who wrote it. The European. The American. A particular way of looking at the world. If you can keep your distance, it’s all there, in what’s said and what’s left unsaid. So I read the book to help me understand just what it is that makes white people so afraid. Their demons. The way ideas get twisted around. It helps me understand how people learn to hate.” “And that’s important to you.”My life depends on it, I thought to myself. But I didn’t tell Regina that. I just smiled and said, “That’s the only way to cure an illness, right? Diagnose it.”

"When the weather was good, my roommate and I might sit out on the fire escape to smoke cigarettes and study the dusk washing blue over the city, or watch white people from the better neighborhoods nearby walk their dogs down our block to let the animals shit on our curbs-“Scoop the poop, you bastards!” my roommate would shout with impressive rage, and we’d laugh at the faces of both master and beast, grim and unapologetic as they hunkered down to do the deed. I enjoyed such moments-but only in brief."

"As it was, I learned to slip back and forth between my black and white worlds, understanding that each possessed its own language and customs and structures of meaning, convinced that with a bit of translation on my part the two worlds would eventually cohere. Still, the feeling that something wasn’t quite right stayed with me, a warning that sounded whenever a white girl mentioned in the middle of conversation how much she liked Stevie Wonder; or when a woman in the supermarket asked me if I played basketball; or when the school principal told me I was cool."
(Side Note, I'm White and get the Basketball question all the time, its the height, not the race, What a reactionary bozo.)


________________________ _____________________

Those are just some Jag.  From ZERO himself.  

The man is a racist.  




another funny thing about you 333 is that you only focus on Obama's black side..also forgetting he is white as well......but that doesn't fit into your agenda does it?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:01:19 AM
I didn't call you a racist. I said "YOUR THREAD TITLE" was racist.
I didn't call your prejudiced. I said your response was.

love the sinner, hate the sin.  :-*

...especially if you have your way. But I think there are alot of people able to discern fact from fiction,
...and will be able to see past the bs being slung. Good luck tho.

Ps: you do know that under universal health care, optometrists visits will be covered right?

The UE is racing to over 10% with no end in sight.  The tax increases will make it worse.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Parker on July 25, 2009, 10:03:10 AM
Yeah I don't think there is much to this....

What is f up, is that people are spending more time dwelling on this than the illegal alien stuff, and for a story that has no legs...what happens the next time?

And what is alarming, is that you and me could make up a seemingly semi-truthful story, and the net goes bananas.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:04:48 AM
Ur in trouble now..u laughed. Do u want this turning up at ur door.....charter member of the jocktheglide retard attack squad.



I can laugh because I see both sides of an issue..it's called having critical thinking skills....I am not a lap dog for any particaular agenda or political orientation.....I am only concerned with what is right, what is just, and simple common sense.....and this story about Obama without more proof is not right or just..it's ridiculous

BTW..my 1100th post....whoopee!!!!!!..just another 30,000 or so before I catch Bluto
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:10:25 AM
Only because he did so himself Andre:



""I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:18:56 AM
Only because he did so himself Andre:



""I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites"



my God man......the guy was 12 years old.....he was mixed up and didn't know where he belonged.....he probably masturbated too.......you gonna hold that against him as well???

also you insinuate that he is a closet radical muslim beause he went to a muslim school....I would bet that where he went to school there weren't very many schools that WEREN'T muslim.....

I guess all people who went to catholic school are all highly religious nuts who were indoctrinated with dangerous catholic ideology as well....

you live in the Bronx so you know how people here place their kids in catholic schools not because they are catholic but simply to keep their kids out of the public schools, many of which are substansdard....

don't read a motive as to him being schooled in a muslim school....he is NOT muslim..he is christian
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 25, 2009, 10:20:12 AM
Here is a pic of the guy:

If the story is true, 100% take it to the bank that Obama was complaining about white or jews. 


Dude you are sounding more like a CT'er everyday.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:21:08 AM
I didnt say he is a radical muslim.  He is a radical marxist who speaks very well and lies exceptionally better than any pol in my lifetime.  

 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:22:44 AM
Dude you are sounding more like a CT'er everyday.

I said "IF THE STORY IS TRUE".

I posted something that came out.  I did not say it was 100% true and said more needs to come out. 

However, if it is confirmed, I would not be surprised in the least bit. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 10:30:26 AM
If you back pedal anymore, ...you might end up in the Hudson River.

The subject heading you posted was:

Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!

Again, I ask you... where was the racism? What were his complaints? who was fired?
...but more importantly... where's the racism? C'mon 33386, you should know by now I'm like a pit bull with a bone.

Where's the racism?

btw: I'm not asking where's the marxism? i'm not asking where's the radicalism?
I'm not asking where's the socialism, ...I'm asking where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:34:25 AM
If you back pedal anymore, ...you might end up in the Hudson River.

The subject heading you posted was:

Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!

Again, I ask you... where was the racism? What were his complaints? who was fired?
...but more importantly... where's the racism? C'mon 33386, you should know by now I'm like a pit bull with a bone.

Where's the racism?

btw: I'm not asking where's the marxism? i'm not asking where's the radicalism?
I'm not asking where's the socialism, ...I'm asking where's the racism?


HA!!!.. ;D..awesome
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:35:24 AM
If you back pedal anymore, ...you might end up in the Hudson River.

The subject heading you posted was:

Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!

Again, I ask you... where was the racism? What were his complaints? who was fired?
...but more importantly... where's the racism? C'mon 33386, you should know by now I'm like a pit bull with a bone.

Where's the racism?

btw: I'm not asking where's the marxism? i'm not asking where's the radicalism?
I'm not asking where's the socialism, ...I'm asking where's the racism?

Complaints of "certain demographics" means what?

Is a white guy going to be upset over complaints about gays?  Most likely not?
Blacks?  Not really
Old People?

Use deductive reasoning and we know probably 95%, if true, what this is about.  

Like I said, more on this needs to come out.    
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 10:39:11 AM
Here is a pic of the guy:

If the story is true, 100% take it to the bank that Obama was complaining about white or jews.   


If the story is true or false, ...based on the evidence thus far disclosed,
...can you not see where your response is a prejudiced one?

Let us play your game for a moment. Let us assume the story is true.
Let us assume a secret service agent tired of hearing gripes about certain demographics brought his complaints directly to Obama, ...and was transferred. Let us assume that is all true. Let us even assume the guy in the picture was also the secret service agent involved.

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:41:37 AM
Complaints of "certain demographics" means what?

Is a white guy going to be upset over complaints about gays?  Most likely not?
Blacks?  Not really
Old People?

Use deductive reasoning and we know probably 95%, if true, what this is about.  

Like I said, more on this needs to come out.    


yes..this has been our point exactly...and until something else comes out that we can examine, then you are pretty much out there naked and alone on this issue
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:41:55 AM
If the story is true or false, ...based on the evidence thus far disclosed,
...can you not see where your response is a prejudiced one?

Let us play your game for a moment. Let us assume the story is true.
Let us assume a secret service agent tired of hearing gripes about certain demographics brought his complaints directly to Obama, ...and was transferred. Let us assume that is all true. Let us even assume the guy in the picture was also the secret service agent involved.

Where's the racism?

Forget it Jag, you are clueless.  

If it was true, why else would he be transfered if anything other than Whites or Jews?

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 10:43:22 AM
With regard to more evidence - check out who is reading what. 

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 25, 2009, 10:44:42 AM
With regard to more evidence - check out who is reading what. 




you're losing it, man..I'm beginning to become concerned about you
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 11:01:01 AM
Complaints of "certain demographics" means what?

Is a white guy going to be upset over complaints about gays?  Most likely not?

Why is that? Are you suggesting that white guys are somehow lacking in empathy?

Perez Hilton, Richard Simmons, and Greg Louganis might beg to differ with you.
I'd be willing to bet that they wouldn't be happy having to hear gripes about gays.
I'd be willing to bet that someone with a gay relative wouldn't be happy about it either.

You never know... maybe the secret service agent had 2 Daddies?  :D

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Blacks?  Not really

Do you realize who you're talking to?

Why don't you ask Bay how he would feel having to hear that all day.

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Old People?

Gee, what senior would be unhappy about todays youth ...all going to hell in a handbasket.
In my day, ...I walked to school... 30 miles through the snow... in my bare feet... yada yada yada.
Nope, ...no senior would care about having to hear complaints and gripes about them there yungings.   ::)

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Use deductive reasoning and we know probably 95%, if true, what this is about.

I have used deductive reasoning, ...and I believe I'm seeing a clear picture of what you're attempting to portray, that's the problem.  :-\

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Like I said, more on this needs to come out.    


So you say NOW! But that wasn't the tune you were singing when you posted the subject title:

"Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!"

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 11:05:32 AM
Forget it Jag, you are clueless.  

If it was true, why else would he be transfered if anything other than Whites or Jews?


What exactly do you imply based on this response?

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/popcorn.jpg)

This is getting rather comical... does the fact that I find humour in your POV make me a bad person?  :-[
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 25, 2009, 11:12:08 AM
With regard to more evidence - check out who is reading what. 


And Bush attempted to read "My Pet Goat", ...but describing him as one into bestiality is a stretch no?

(http://judecowell.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/bush-pet-goat-book-upside-down-photo.jpg)

And with regard to the reading materials of both Palin & Obama in those pics,
...it appears to me, one is looking at a failed past, while the other is looking forward to the world within which America will find herself. But intellects nothwithstanding...

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on July 25, 2009, 11:53:41 AM
And Bush attempted to read "My Pet Goat", ...but describing him as one into bestiality is a stretch no?

(http://judecowell.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/bush-pet-goat-book-upside-down-photo.jpg)

And with regard to the reading materials of both Palin & Obama in those pics,
...it appears to me, one is looking at a failed past, while the other is looking forward to the world within which America will find herself. But intellects nothwithstanding...

Where's the racism?


When will you finally give us the reason for your racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 25, 2009, 02:07:42 PM
I never defend Bush.  Your post is exactly why many of us cant stand you.  We dont hate our country and seek to 'remake it" in some bizarre image the the leftist failures want. 

ZERO cant stand this country and NEVER misses an opportunity to talk it down.  Whether its doctors, cops, the military, health care, corporations, etc I cant one good thing Obama has ever said about our country. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 26, 2009, 03:10:43 AM
I never defend Bush.  Your post is exactly why many of us cant stand you.  We dont hate our country and seek to 'remake it" in some bizarre image the the leftist failures want. 

ZERO cant stand this country and NEVER misses an opportunity to talk it down.  Whether its doctors, cops, the military, health care, corporations, etc I cant one good thing Obama has ever said about our country. 


Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 26, 2009, 03:23:36 AM
I never defend Bush.  Your post is exactly why many of us cant stand you.  We dont hate our country and seek to 'remake it" in some bizarre image the the leftist failures want. 

ZERO cant stand this country and NEVER misses an opportunity to talk it down.  Whether its doctors, cops, the military, health care, corporations, etc I cant one good thing Obama has ever said about our country. 

You could've fooled me, ...cause you DO sound like someone who hates his country. Why so Anti-American?  ;D

...and ZERO isn't a bad thing. Infact, ...Zero is a HERO!



Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Busted on July 26, 2009, 10:50:21 PM
Obama is a racist!!!The very fact that his justice department drops the charges against the black panthers for intimidating whites outside a voting station and is now investigating the kids who got turned away at the pool proves it.Obama IS rev. Wright.

Because they cant charge anyone for anything for standing in a public place.    Im tired of these white people who for hundreds of years shit on black people, killed, hung, terrorized black folks. One gets in the white house and they call him racist? Shit bush watched a WHOLE black community drown and did NOTHING.  Fuck out of here craker ass crakers...
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: IFBBwannaB on July 27, 2009, 12:20:06 AM
Because they cant charge anyone for anything for standing in a public place.    Im tired of these white people who for hundreds of years shit on black people, killed, hung, terrorized black folks. One gets in the white house and they call him racist? Shit bush watched a WHOLE black community drown and did NOTHING.  Fuck out of here craker ass crakers...


Your words of wisdom astonish us  ::)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2009, 04:25:28 AM
Because they cant charge anyone for anything for standing in a public place.    Im tired of these white people who for hundreds of years shit on black people, killed, hung, terrorized black folks. One gets in the white house and they call him racist? Shit bush watched a WHOLE black community drown and did NOTHING.  Fuck out of here craker ass crakers...

Ray Naign did a bang up job with those buses no????
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 27, 2009, 04:31:46 AM
Ray Naign did a bang up job with those buses no????

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2009, 04:35:33 AM
Where's the racism?

Actually, with Katrina, there was none.  it was just general govt ineptness.  Nagin and Blanco and Bush were three peas in a pod as far as that goes. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 27, 2009, 04:44:57 AM
Actually, with Katrina, there was none.  it was just general govt ineptness.  Nagin and Blanco and Bush were three peas in a pod as far as that goes. 

You do not do coy very well. I'm not referring to Mayor Nagin, Governor Blanco, or President Bush.

I'm talking about President Obama, the man you named in this thread title and accused of being racist.

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2009, 04:46:27 AM
We have been over this many many times, and unless and until there is more coming ourt on this story, we have to wait for more details.  That being said, 100% take it to the bank it was referring to Jews. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 27, 2009, 05:06:21 AM
We have been over this many many times, and unless and until there is more coming ourt on this story, we have to wait for more details.  That being said, 100% take it to the bank it was referring to Jews.  

I'm embarrassed for you!  I'm not asking for hunches, speculation, or bias, ...I'm asking for facts. You provide none.

Obama's supposed racism is based on what? ...Your prejudice? Your inability to view this without your racial glasses?

Where's the racism?

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 27, 2009, 05:18:03 AM
Ha ha.  Obama has always surrounded himself with Racists. 

Rev. Wright
Dreams of my Fathers
Odinga
Rashidi
Gates

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 27, 2009, 05:34:07 AM
Ha ha.  Obama has always surrounded himself with Racists. 

Rev. Wright
Dreams of my Fathers
Odinga
Rashidi
Gates


You can bob, you can weave, you can backpedal and attempt to obsfuscate all you want,
this little pit bunny isn't going to drop this bone. I'm going to spell it out for you in crystal clear fashion.

(http://www.jaguarenterprises.net/images/pitbunny.jpg)

Where were the allegations of racism within the snippet you posted?

Why won't you admit you made a prejudiced thread title that libels the President?

There's no shame in saying... "ooops... maybe I was a bit premature" I know guys hate being premature,
...but it happens to all guys everyone once in a while. You get a bit overly excited ... and wham. It happens.  :P
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 29, 2009, 01:26:03 AM
 :o  333386, You didn't actually think I would let this fade away to the 2nd page did you?

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: BM OUT on July 29, 2009, 06:33:35 AM
:o  333386, You didn't actually think I would let this fade away to the 2nd page did you?

Where's the racism?

The story didnt have the details,but what differance would it have made to you.You would have supported Obama no matter what.You want racism?

Robert Reich said whitres shouldnt get construction jobs created by the stimulous.Obama said NOTHING!iS THAT RACIST?No a lib siad it cant be racist.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 29, 2009, 04:08:18 PM
The story didnt have the details,but what differance would it have made to you.You would have supported Obama no matter what.You want racism?

Robert Reich said whitres shouldnt get construction jobs created by the stimulous.Obama said NOTHING!iS THAT RACIST?No a lib siad it cant be racist.


you're out of your mind
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 29, 2009, 07:05:02 PM
So was the Agent ever fired?


Because of he wasn't this is bunk spinner story.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 29, 2009, 07:05:43 PM

you're out of your mind

I'd be careful what you say to him, because billy is his real name and he'll kick your ass.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 12:50:00 AM
The story didnt have the details,but what differance would it have made to you.You would have supported Obama no matter what.You want racism?

That's right. The story said absolutely nothing about racism. It had no details whatsoever, ...however, through some convoluted construct, 333386 filtered the information and saw racism where none existed. He had a very prejudiced response to the limited information, and insisted 100% that obama was racist towards whites & Jews.

That's why I said his post was racist.

To this day, 333386 hasn't explained or accounted for his libel of the President. It was either inadvertent or deliberate? He either made a prejudiced threat title, ...or it was a deliberate attempt to libel the President.
Which one, ...he will not say. Is 333386 a disinfo agent, ...or simply a rabble rouser looking to stir up animosity against the commander in chief?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 12:52:55 AM
I'd be careful what you say to him, because billy is his real name and he'll kick your ass.

Then he'd get his son to kick your son's ass, ...and his wife to kick your wife's ass.
He might even get his puppy to chew the living daylights out of your puppy. I'd be skeered... very skeered!  :P
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 06:42:28 AM
That's right. The story said absolutely nothing about racism. It had no details whatsoever, ...however, through some convoluted construct, 333386 filtered the information and saw racism where none existed. He had a very prejudiced response to the limited information, and insisted 100% that obama was racist towards whites & Jews.

That's why I said his post was racist.

To this day, 333386 hasn't explained or accounted for his libel of the President. It was either inadvertent or deliberate? He either made a prejudiced threat title, ...or it was a deliberate attempt to libel the President.
Which one, ...he will not say. Is 333386 a disinfo agent, ...or simply a rabble rouser looking to stir up animosity against the commander in chief?


ill tell you what jag, I maybe woukld not have worded it that way BUT FOR Obama's already proven track record of racism himself.  Thus, to me, based on his own actions, it seemed logical to me that Obama was just carrying forward who he is, a racist:

1.  Grandmother is a "typical white person"
2.  Dreams of my Father passages
3.  20 years in Rev. Wrights' hate church.
4.  "White executives dont care about inner city kids" 
5.  Michelle Obama - "First time in my adult life . . . . . "
6.  Odinga
7.  Khalid Rashidi & Bill Ayeres
8.  Prejudging Gates affair as "racial profiling"
9.  "Bitter clingers"

You want more Jag????

1.   
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2009, 06:44:33 AM
I'd be careful what you say to him, because billy is his real name and he'll kick your ass.


believe me, "Billy" don't want no problems with me
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2009, 06:46:44 AM
ill tell you what jag, I maybe woukld not have worded it that way BUT FOR Obama's already proven track record of racism himself.  Thus, to me, based on his own actions, it seemed logical to me that Obama was just carrying forward who he is, a racist:

1.  Grandmother is a "typical white person"
2.  Dreams of my Father passages
3.  20 years in Rev. Wrights' hate church.
4.  "White executives dont care about inner city kids" 
5.  Michelle Obama - "First time in my adult life . . . . . "
6.  Odinga
7.  Khalid Rashidi & Bill Ayeres
8.  Prejudging Gates affair as "racial profiling"
9.  "Bitter clingers"

You want more Jag????

1.   


again..Obama is white as well..but you won't address that...he has unique insight into both worlds...you don't want to hear the truth
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 06:49:30 AM

again..Obama is white as well..but you won't address that...he has unique insight into both worlds...you don't want to hear the truth

He has clearly shown that he considers himself black.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: BM OUT on July 30, 2009, 07:06:13 AM

again..Obama is white as well..but you won't address that...he has unique insight into both worlds...you don't want to hear the truth

He hates the white part of him which is why he can insult his own grandmother by saying "shes a typical white person".By the way,isnt it funny that he relates to his dad.Where was he while Obama was growing up?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 07:49:19 AM
He hates the white part of him which is why he can insult his own grandmother by saying "shes a typical white person"  of that era .By the way,isnt it funny that he relates to his dad.Where was he while Obama was growing up?

You missed the last part of his comment.

You state he relates to his Dad, ...perhaps... but why is that so unusual?
By all accounts, his father was an idealist with a passionate belief in justice and the ability to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. People often relate to those with whom they share common ideologies. Nothing unusual about that. Why else would you relate to such a dumbass like Joe the Plumber, a man with whom you've spent even less time than Obama has his father? Don't tell me you don't, ...cause I know you do.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 07:57:14 AM
You missed the last part of his comment.

You state he relates to his Dad, ...perhaps... but why is that so unusual?
By all accounts, his father was an idealist with a passionate belief in justice and the ability to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. People often relate to those with whom they share common ideologies. Nothing unusual about that. Why else would you relate to such a dumbass like Joe the Plumber, a man with whom you've spent even less time than Obama has his father? Don't tell me you don't, ...cause I know you do.

Both his parents were marxists. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 240 is Back on July 30, 2009, 08:18:10 AM
this is a fasle and misleading headline.

Nobody was fired.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 08:24:55 AM
this is a fasle and misleading headline.

Nobody was fired.

...and there were no complaints of racism established.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 08:27:25 AM
...and there were no complaints of racism established.

LETS DO THIS FOR A SECOND TIME JAG:

Lll tell you what jag, I maybe woukld not have worded it that way BUT FOR Obama's already proven track record of racism himself.  Thus, to me, based on his own actions, it seemed logical to me that Obama was just carrying forward who he is, a racist:

1.  Grandmother is a "typical white person"
2.  Dreams of my Father passages
3.  20 years in Rev. Wrights' hate church.
4.  "White executives dont care about inner city kids" 
5.  Michelle Obama - "First time in my adult life . . . . . "
6.  Odinga
7.  Khalid Rashidi & Bill Ayeres
8.  Prejudging Gates affair as "racial profiling"
9.  "Bitter clingers"

You want more Jag?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 08:30:16 AM
LETS DO THIS FOR A SECOND TIME JAG:

Lll tell you what jag, I maybe woukld not have worded it that way BUT FOR Obama's already proven track record of racism himself.  Thus, to me, based on his own actions, it seemed logical to me that Obama was just carrying forward who he is, a racist:

1.  Grandmother is a "typical white person"
2.  Dreams of my Father passages
3.  20 years in Rev. Wrights' hate church.
4.  "White executives dont care about inner city kids" 
5.  Michelle Obama - "First time in my adult life . . . . . "
6.  Odinga
7.  Khalid Rashidi & Bill Ayeres
8.  Prejudging Gates affair as "racial profiling"
9.  "Bitter clingers"

You want more Jag?


Are you saying you rushed to judgement in a very prejudiced way?
...or are you saying the secret service agent complained about the littany of grievances you listed?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 08:33:42 AM
Are you saying you rushed to judgement in a very prejudiced way?
...or are you saying the secret service agent complained about the littany of grievances you listed?

Based on the above, there was no rush to anything.  Tigers dont change their stripes just because they are in a different cage.   
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: BM OUT on July 30, 2009, 08:36:47 AM
You missed the last part of his comment.

You state he relates to his Dad, ...perhaps... but why is that so unusual?
By all accounts, his father was an idealist with a passionate belief in justice and the ability to overcome seemingly insurmountable challenges. People often relate to those with whom they share common ideologies. Nothing unusual about that. Why else would you relate to such a dumbass like Joe the Plumber, a man with whom you've spent even less time than Obama has his father? Don't tell me you don't, ...cause I know you do.

Why is this unusual?BECAUSE HIS DAD WASNT THERE!!!!!!!!!!His dad didnt raise him!!!He was a coward who didnt do his job and abandoned him.YET still he thinks more highly of him then THE WHITE MOTHER WHO raised him.Does that answer your question?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: BM OUT on July 30, 2009, 08:38:41 AM
By the way,I dont think Ive ever posted a dam thing about Joe the plumber.Sorry.I relate to people who lift weights.Why?Because I lift weights.Obama relates to his father who abandoned him?Why?Because HES BLACK!!!!!
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on July 30, 2009, 09:08:05 AM
this is a fasle and misleading headline.

Nobody was fired.

Exactly and the thread keeps trying to run away from this fact. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 30, 2009, 09:11:48 AM
Exactly and the thread keeps trying to run away from this fact. 

I took it from the site as far as the firing goes.   
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on July 30, 2009, 11:57:53 AM
I took it from the site as far as the firing goes.   

then both you and the site are wrong...you gotta investigate your sources bro if you want to be a reporter....you should be a fact checker on the Bill O'reilly show
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: blacken700 on July 30, 2009, 01:34:36 PM
why is this still going i proved him wrong days ago
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 30, 2009, 09:14:19 PM

I took it from the site as far as the firing goes.   


That part we got, ...what about the rest of the title? ...where'd you pull that from, ...your derriere?

Where's the racism?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on July 31, 2009, 04:53:58 AM
That part we got, ...what about the rest of the title? ...where'd you pull that from, ...your derriere?

Where's the racism?

I addressed your point and will ignore you since you dont read. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: boonasty on July 31, 2009, 07:23:03 AM
That part we got, ...what about the rest of the title? ...where'd you pull that from, ...your derriere?

Where's the racism?

did you ever explain how loco took your posts out of context?
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on July 31, 2009, 11:12:48 PM
did you ever explain how loco took your posts out of context?

yes, ...but I would think, clicking on the original posts themselves within the original thread would have precluded any requirement for an explanation.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Dos Equis on July 31, 2009, 11:31:56 PM
did you ever explain how loco took your posts out of context?

No.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on August 01, 2009, 08:44:21 AM
Dodge Trucks
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on August 01, 2009, 12:33:21 PM
yes, ...but I would think, clicking on the original posts themselves within the original thread would have precluded any requirement for an explanation.


Jag, you've actually made 333 turn tail and run from his own thread ;)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2009, 01:09:21 PM

Jag, you've actually made 333 turn tail and run from his own thread ;)

Hey fool, I just got back jet sking around the Brooklyn Bridge and Statue of Liberty.  After that went to the shooting range, and now off with my girl for a bit.

As far as Jag, I already exaplined myself 4 times with my reasoning.  If she does not want to accept it, thats her perogative. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on August 01, 2009, 01:22:14 PM
Hey fool, I just got back jet sking around the Brooklyn Bridge and Statue of Liberty.  After that went to the shooting range, and now off with my girl for a bit.

As far as Jag, I already exaplined myself 4 times with my reasoning.  If she does not want to accept it, thats her perogative. 

well..I guess you figure that bragging about all the things you have just done and informing us that you actually have a girlfriend takes the place of being wrong in your posts and starting an erroneous thread

Actually I am happy for you..keep visiting the Statue of Liberty..just remember it applies to blacks as well?? ;)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2009, 01:24:35 PM
well..I guess you figure that bragging about all the things you have just done and informing us that you actually have a girlfriend takes the place of being wrong in your posts and starting an erroneous thread

Actually I am happy for you..keep visiting the Statue of Liberty..just remember it applies to blacks as well?? ;)


I got my stripes from Morris Park and Arthur Ave., so I know the deal bro. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on August 01, 2009, 01:27:17 PM
I got my stripes from Morris Park and Arthur Ave., so I know the deal bro. 



Agreed....the streets of the Bronx are the best teacher of life anyone ever needs ;)
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 01, 2009, 01:40:08 PM


Agreed....the streets of the Bronx are the best teacher of life anyone ever needs ;)

No kidding.  I dont know if its a curse or a blessing at this point. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: JOCKTHEGLIDE on August 01, 2009, 01:48:41 PM
Dodge Trucks
ozmo im buying FJ cruiser,,,,
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on August 01, 2009, 02:16:27 PM
ozmo im buying FJ cruiser,,,,

Is that because you know the design engineer who work on the first prototype?  Or is it because the illuminati designed the swine flu virus to be weak in FJ's?

Or both?
 :D ;)
 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on August 01, 2009, 02:19:51 PM
His will be the special hover version that can both fly and go underwater.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: grab an umbrella on August 01, 2009, 02:21:41 PM
His contacts in washington told him it was a good suv
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on August 01, 2009, 02:45:09 PM
Dodge Trucks



EPIC thread hijacking
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: headhuntersix on August 01, 2009, 02:52:05 PM
Par for the course.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: OzmO on August 01, 2009, 03:11:49 PM


EPIC thread hijacking

EPIC lack of clue.

Go back and re-read everything slowly.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on August 02, 2009, 12:50:34 AM
Hey fool, I just got back jet sking around the Brooklyn Bridge and Statue of Liberty.  After that went to the shooting range, and now off with my girl for a bit.

As far as Jag, I already exaplined myself 4 times with my reasoning.  If she does not want to accept it, thats her perogative. 

Good, I'm glad you're back. Now that you are, ...maybe you can explain something for me...  Where's the racism?   :P
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on August 02, 2009, 07:35:32 AM
Good, I'm glad you're back. Now that you are, ...maybe you can explain something for me...  Where's the racism?   :P

Go look back in the thread for your answer. 
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: 24KT on August 02, 2009, 06:12:19 PM
Go look back in the thread for your answer. 

{lol} Should I start with the very first poster?  :D
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2011, 02:21:01 PM
Now that Reggie Love was fired - hhhmmmm - wonder what is going on there?  maybe he was banging mobacca?   
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2011, 02:33:24 PM
LoL


Yep.

First out come the little gay projections and comments.
Then it is the photoshop blitz.
Tonight about 10PM he will be bumping old thread from 2009.
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2011, 02:36:16 PM
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2011, 02:45:17 PM


Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Straw Man on November 15, 2011, 02:51:46 PM
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Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2011, 02:52:37 PM
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LMAO.     My roof doesnt look like that Straw.   

Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: andreisdaman on November 15, 2011, 02:59:42 PM
Can't believe you would dredge up this old thread...this is the point where you turned dumb and lost credibility
Title: Re: Obama's top secret service agent fired after complaints of Obama's racism!
Post by: Soul Crusher on November 15, 2011, 03:00:39 PM
Can't believe you would dredge up this old thread...this is the point where you turned dumb and lost credibility

The clip with the cowboy hat guy confirms it too.