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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
You're our hero.
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they brought freedom to Iraq ::)
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Right on, brother!
Only one superhero here...
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
Or EVERY semi retarded hated celeb who use the "Support our trops!!" in their speech JUST to make people agree with them..
Fucking pathetic.
Cant stand it.
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Or EVERY semi retarded hated celeb who use the "Support our trops!!" in their speech JUST to make people agree with them..
Fucking pathetic.
Cant stand it.
Throw in "Save the planet", "Help protect x species", "Be eco friendly" and other similar generic nonsense that nearly 99.99% of those who say them have absolutely no clue about.
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Throw in "Save the planet", "Help protect x species", "Be eco friendly" and other similar generic nonsense that nearly 99.99% of those who say them have absolutely no clue about.
yeah, but mentioning the war FORCES people to agree with them...
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Right on, brother!
Only one superhero here...
I'm surprise I haven't seen you in any of these Marvel Flicks outthere, Chick. you better fire your Agent
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anyone that goes into a situation where they could be killed, of there own free will deserve all the respect they can get, same goes for firemen etc
most dangerous situation most gettbiggers face is the menace of being tapped out by a cage rage warrior in a gym altercation!
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
They can't all be ripping out of their baby Gap shirts for carbing up at lunch, right? Don't you have some coworkers to be intimidating, clown?
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They can't all be ripping out of their baby Gap shirts for carbing up at lunch, right? Don't you have some coworkers to be intimidating, clown?
Very original dipshit. Did you do a search on posts by Alex and try to copy and paste it as an original? Go commit suicide fucker.
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Or EVERY semi retarded hated celeb who use the "Support our trops!!" in their speech JUST to make people agree with them..
Fucking pathetic.
Cant stand it.
It's simple. If you want to support the troops, join the Army.
Otherwise, you're really just supporting the magnetic bumper sticker industry and trying to draw attention to yourself.
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Well, Broc Lesnar is a hero to the ufc nuthuggers.
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Brock is a GOD not a hero
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he's a god and a heavyweight champ after 4 fights............. ::)
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Thats just how much of a GOD he is!
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as a combat vet I don't think of myself as a hero
I am, however, better than some pussy teenager who complains about the world but does nothing to change it
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Thats just how much of a GOD he is!
the depth and quality of the ufc totaly astounds me!
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as a combat vet I don't think of myself as a hero
I am, however, better than some pussy teenager who complains about the world but does nothing to change it
Boom 8)
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Throw in "Save the planet", "Help protect x species", "Be eco friendly" and other similar generic nonsense that nearly 99.99% of those who say them have absolutely no clue about.
exactly.
the new "eco" trend is by far one of the worst: it's all bullshits to sell ...more= produce more = pollute (if this term does even makes any sense anyway) more.
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Brock is a GOD not a hero
my mistake
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as a combat vet I don't think of myself as a hero
I am, however, better than some pussy teenager who complains about the world but does nothing to change it
Change it how? Waiting for your president to create a "war" for you to help him and his buddies become super rich billionaires while pumping you with bullshit about freedom. Get real and get over the gulf war syndrome.
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politics worlwide have the primary objective to mix every ethnies together to lower salaries and make more money. War is counterproductive for economy, the new religion of multiculturalism has only been created by occidental elites to force people with different skins colors to live and work together to make the same elites richer for lesser salaries.
TV and medias work hand in hand with the elites, politics and industrials to sell you the new world order where everyone is a poor dumb asshole wokring for nothing and making the very small cast of elites even richer.
Wars, heroes, do not make any sense in this new world we 're heading toward.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. Give me a fucking break.
SUCKMYMUSCLE
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"THEY ARE SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHATTER MEN….AND WILL ALWAYS EXISTS ON THE PERIPHERY OF ANY ENDEAVOR THAT REQUIRES SELFLESS SERVICE OR LOYALTY. THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF YOUR CONCERN AND TRUTH BE TOLD – IN THE PIT OF THEIR COWARDLY HEARTS – THEY WISH THEY COULD BE LIKE YOU."-Lt. Colonel Randolph White
Enjoy fuck face.
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"THEY ARE SIMPLE BACKGROUND CHATTER MEN….AND WILL ALWAYS EXISTS ON THE PERIPHERY OF ANY ENDEAVOR THAT REQUIRES SELFLESS SERVICE OR LOYALTY. THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF YOUR CONCERN AND TRUTH BE TOLD – IN THE PIT OF THEIR COWARDLY HEARTS – THEY WISH THEY COULD BE LIKE YOU."-Lt. Colonel Randolph White
Enjoy fuck face.
SELFLESS? HAHAHAA. Ask how much the first ones in stole in jewels, money and everything else they can loot. A bunch of degenerate pigs.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
I pray you aren't American...
So that's what we do now kill kids and rape women? ::) and of course it's only the hispanic and blacks who do this ::)
You know two things....jack and shit.
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In America, victim=hero.
:D
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The idiot that used to live down the street that slammed his dick in a cardoor and was too stupid for anything other than the army and was sent to Iraq is not a hero.
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The idiot that used to live down the street that slammed his dick in a cardoor and was too stupid for anything other than the army and was sent to Iraq is not a hero.
Your my hero...
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Your my hero...
You're mine...
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You're mine...
Ha,lol.i was expecting a wise crack from you ;D
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youre mine now!!..... you belong to me!!
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Ha,lol.i was expecting a wise crack from you ;D
;D
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The idiot that used to live down the street that slammed his dick in a cardoor and was too stupid for anything other than the army and was sent to Iraq is not a hero.
No, that's commonly referred to as 'cannon fodder'
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"Everyone who died on 9/11 was a HERO."
No, that is what you call a VICTIM. ;)
It's arguable that the firefighters were, of course.
My uncle called them fools for going into a building with the possible collapse. I disagree however.
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So Saddam's/Hitler's/Stalin's henchmen were all heroes?
OF COURSE NOT! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Hahahaha That's crazy man! ::)
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the american infidels are quite patriotic
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I thought this was someone finally saying all the gay ass teams and nuthugging should stop here.
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In America, victim=hero.
:D
Haha, epic catholic concept. ;D
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A job in the military is just a career IMO - It is a paid career
It is my opinion that if you sign up you are to blame for any injury incurred. It is sad when a brother/son/father/husband dies etc - However are we that shocked.
Saying that, there was a programme on tonight I watched about the oldest veteran of WWI who passed away recently aged 112. I think it was BBC it was on.
Looking at him having talking and the response and respect he recieved from everyone was touching. They are truly inspiring - the never fought a war by pressing a button 400 miles away.
War is a waste of life - absolute waste. I had ancestors died in WWI, WW2 and other battles.
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A job in the military is just a career IMO - It is a paid career
It is my opinion that if you sign up you are to blame for any injury incurred. It is sad when a brother/son/father/husband dies etc - However are we that shocked.
Saying that, there was a programme on tonight I watched about the oldest veteran of WWI who passed away recently aged 112. I think it was BBC it was on.
Looking at him having talking and the response and respect he recieved from everyone was touching. They are truly inspiring - the never fought a war by pressing a button 400 miles away.
War is a waste of life - absolute waste. I had ancestors died in WWI, WW2 and other battles.
I gotta agree with you there, those were the real soldiers, having to deal with mustard gas and other crazy shit, half the battle was fought on horses!
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I gotta agree with you there, those were the real soldiers, having to deal with mustard gas and other crazy shit, half the battle was fought on horses!
Many of them were actually cowards who only ran to the battle field in the fear of execution. How do you know this old man wasn't an antipatriot who didn't have the balls to stood up for his believes but went along everyone else?
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He could have been. Incredibly unlikley but he may have been
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In America, victim=hero.
:D
You're a hero for not juicing ;D
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when you roll through Kandahar City and little girls are walking to school, you know it's all worthwhile
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SELFLESS? HAHAHAA. Ask how much the first ones in stole in jewels, money and everything else they can loot. A bunch of degenerate pigs.
Sounds like you have been pushing too many pencils.
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That muscle mcanus guy saids he would disarm and beat up the man who shot up the LA fitness in Pittsburgh.
Would he qualify as a hero???
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A true hero IMO wontboast about his heroism. It should be done out of an inate and unexplainable to act in a certain situation. rarely is heroism premeditated or planned.
I dont disrespect modern soldiers etc - but I have no respect for them
I wont just respect one group/class/race because it is fashionable to do so. Ill give respect based on individual actions of individuals. No one group is granted this.
p.s meltdown
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Tell u what grab any non service 19 year old or any asshole on this thread...fire mortars, ak's and rpgs' at him, then have him go plug a hole in a buddies' leg or clear a trench line...if he can do that, then he's a hero. Its very very very easy to sit here and say these kids aren't. I'm proud each and every day to watch these kids do what they do. They are easily the best we have and many of u aren't fit to wash their jocks let alone disparage their service.
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A true hero IMO wontboast about his heroism. It should be done out of an inate and unexplainable to act in a certain situation. rarely is heroism premeditated or planned.
Maybe 'modern' war is making heroism less frequent!? This article on how few Medal of Honor recipients there have recently been, I found interesting: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/01/say-pentagon-awarding-medals-honor-iraq-afghan-valor/?test=latestnews
/ignore the fox news tag.
//and the brutal sentence structure
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Tell u what grab any non service 19 year old or any asshole on this thread...fire mortars, ak's and rpgs' at him, then have him go plug a hole in a buddies' leg or clear a trench line...if he can do that, then he's a hero. Its very very very easy to sit here and say these kids aren't. I'm proud each and every day to watch these kids do what they do. They are easily the best we have and many of u aren't fit to wash their jocks let alone disparage their service.
I'm sure that's not what he meant, bro. Probably just let his 'post' get away from him. Audie Murphy FTW!
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I think u will see more...but its something many of us have questioned. I think more (relative term) will get upgraded. It takes time for some of this crap. I think u will see an actual live MOH recipient in the next two years. There are atleast two DSC's that are being looked at. The awards system in the Army and the services in general has always been fucked up.
Well chimps..it pisses me off. These kids don't need to be doing the shit they do...its one thing to enlist for Army benefits in peace time...but when ur getting a round trip to Iraq or Afghanistan, thats another.
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Tell u what grab any non service 19 year old or any asshole on this thread...fire mortars, ak's and rpgs' at him, then have him go plug a hole in a buddies' leg or clear a trench line...if he can do that, then he's a hero. Its very very very easy to sit here and say these kids aren't. I'm proud each and every day to watch these kids do what they do. They are easily the best we have and many of u aren't fit to wash their jocks let alone disparage their service.
a monkey can be a soldier.
a good soldier is one who does what he is told without questioning it. They are trained and many could do it.
many however cant be surgeons or doctors - mnay dont have teh brains to do so.
In the UK many thick unemployed ppl join the army - which has been proven to be corrupt. Becasue its a career and a job that pays the bills.
In teh USA its admirable the pride you have in your armed forces etc But your crusades are not admirable nor just.
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First off this isn't Britain were the damm libs have made a laughing stock of the MOD. Second despite Iraq, if we didn't do what we do...world wide, the rest of the world would be a friggen mess. I have a few close friends in the British army and its a disgrace what ur country has done to a very proud institution. A monkey could not do my job...or any of the jobs in the US military. That whole brainwashing bullshit went out a long time ago. What we do, isnt' what u see in the movies. A 19 year old monkey can't call in a 80 million dollar aircraft and drop a 1 million dollar 500lbs bomb through a window. U guys have really no idea what we do. The media doesn't go into it, and neither does hollywood...further as much as I love the Brits, don't confuse our military with urs. Nobody can touch us, or is even close.
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The US and UK armies are getting beaten by primitives with 30 year old guns and stones. The UK army admitted they couldnt beat the IRA. The USA got beaten in Vietnam. You cant win a war where the enemy integrate so well with teh populace.
How many more lives will it take to realise this.
I am sure that many people if trained could do a lot of the jobs in the military - it is not elite, it is not honourable and you lot are not God.
Despite the US and UKs protestations the majority of people oppose the war.
If you want to be a soldier by all means be one - your body your life your choice etc. You know the consequences etc.
But dont harp on about getting shot, your buddy getting killed or lack of compensation. It was your own conscious decision to do so.
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In teh USA its admirable the pride you have in your armed forces etc But your crusades are not admirable nor just.
The problem that most have these days is the war/soldier dichotomy. Philosophically, you may disagree with the war in Iraq (WMDs, etc.) and that is understandable. Or, you may think the war in Afghanistan is a waste of time/manpower (and, as a Canadian, I agree with this) but do not ever for one moment disrespect those on the ground for their mission. I have lost one good friend and seen too many pass on our 'Highway of Heroes.' They are you and me. They deserve our respect.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
I AGREE with you 100%, and my father was a 30 year veteran of the Buffalo Fire Department,
and he reveived a incredible citation for bravery in 1991.
But-this has gotten out of control, all since 9/11.
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I will always think its sad when a son/brother/father dies etc
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They choose to be there. I respect you and dont want to offend you Chimps you are a good guy. Im off to bed now its 3am and I have a funeral to attend to tomorro.
What a waste that one 80million dollar stealthbomber could wipe out a whole african countries foreign debt yet is used for destruction rather than creation.
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I will always think its sad when a son/brother/father dies etc
i won't be sad when my dad dies- i will be legit happy cuz he will leave me all his money.
....unless he leaves it to his favorite nephew (which is a very real possiblity)- then i will be sad
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The problem that most have these days is the war/soldier dichotomy. Philosophically, you may disagree with the war in Iraq (WMDs, etc.) and that is understandable. Or, you may think the war in Afghanistan is a waste of time/manpower (and, as a Canadian, I agree with this) but do not ever for one moment disrespect those on the ground for their mission. I have lost one good friend and seen too many pass on our 'Highway of Heroes.' They are you and me. They deserve our respect.
I don't respect people who make this world a worse place to live...
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Apparently Ursus u don't understand the history of ur own country especially in Northern Ireland. The British army fought a moderately successful counter-insurgency in Northern Ireland and forced Gerry Adams to the table. Most of that was because both sides were sick of the fighting. If u think we're loosing in Iraq I would invite u over to Iraq next year when on I'm tour number 3 and u can see for urself. We have and continue to kick the dogshit out of AQ and the Taliban. U tough guys think fighting this kind of war is easy. If I don't have a target or can't engage, I can't kill anything. We shit canned the Iraqi army in a matter of weeks in 2003. This isn't that kind of war. This isn't Vietnam either, we're working hard not to kill civilains. Besides Vietnam..the NVA were close to throwing in the towel, it was the American people who bailed, not the US military. U should read a few books. U could not do my job...not even close...u couldn't do any of the jobs these kids do. I think alot of people like urslef are jealous, whether it be the uniforms, the pay, the life style or some manhood envy. I've been doing this for a very long time, and will never do anything else. Whats our alternative, leave to people like u, we'd all be overrun with ragheads or Russians or Germans.
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Apparently Ursus u don't understand the history of ur own country especially in Northern Ireland. The British army fought a moderately successful counter-insurgency in Northern Ireland and forced Gerry Adams to the table. Most of that was because both sides were sick of the fighting. If u think we're loosing in Iraq I would invite u over to Iraq next year when on I'm tour number 3 and u can see for urself. We have and continue to kick the dogshit out of AQ and the Taliban. U tough guys think fighting this kind of war is easy. If I don't have a target or can't engage, I can't kill anything. We shit canned the Iraqi army in a matter of weeks in 2003. This isn't that kind of war. This isn't Vietnam either, we're working hard not to kill civilains. Besides Vietnam..the NVA were close to throwing in the towel, it was the American people who bailed, not the US military. U should read a few books. U could not do my job...not even close...u couldn't do any of the jobs these kids do. I think alot of people like urslef are jealous, whether it be the uniforms, the pay, the life style or some manhood envy. I've been doing this for a very long time, and will never do anything else. Whats our alternative, leave to people like u, we'd all be overrun with ragheads or Russians or Germans.
This part of your post does no one any good.
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Look..I don't get on here and disparage anybodies job...I could care less. But when U tell me that 19 year old heroes are no more intelligent then monkies, I have a problem. Its been my experience that many people are intimidated by those in the military for whatever reason. I've heard everything from I was to tough or whatever reason for not joining. If u don't want to join..fine who cares, but when this drivel starts flying, I call bullshit. People have seen far to many movies and have no idea what the military does or what it means to serve. I take what I do very seriously.
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This part of your post does no one any good.
Truth hurts.
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Look..I don't get on here and disparage anybodies job...I could care less. But when U tell me that 19 year old heroes are no more intelligent then monkies, I have a problem. Its been my experience that many people are intimidated by those in the military for whatever reason. I've heard everything from I was to tough or whatever reason for not joining. If u don't want to join..fine who cares, but when this drivel starts flying, I call bullshit. People have seen far to many movies and have no idea what the military does or what it means to serve. I take what I do very seriously.
Take it like a man.
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Take what....if u served then ur opinion is valid, if u haven't then u really don't know what the hell ur talking about. I'm not gonna change ur mind anyway but neither am I gonna allow anybody to shit on the Services without a post or two.
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Look..I don't get on here and disparage anybodies job...I could care less. But when U tell me that 19 year old heroes are no more intelligent then monkies, I have a problem. Its been my experience that many people are intimidated by those in the military for whatever reason. I've heard everything from I was to tough or whatever reason for not joining. If u don't want to join..fine who cares, but when this drivel starts flying, I call bullshit. People have seen far to many movies and have no idea what the military does or what it means to serve. I take what I do very seriously.
Great post! So many "Call of Duty" warriors out there(not just on this board) talk tough all day long, but really don't understand what the hell is going on out there. I just returned from a deployment in Iraq and I constantly hear from people who have never been in any type of armed conflict, exclaim "well if they mortared us from this direction I would...or "after they tried their ground attack I would...". Oh brother ::) You have to understand that there is a lot more going on than what is being released on CNN, BBC, etc...
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
Im sure the media wont mention this from now on, assuming they have read this "post" by a guy with the screename "mon_of_steele". ::)
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A true hero IMO wontboast about his heroism. It should be done out of an inate and unexplainable to act in a certain situation. rarely is heroism premeditated or planned.
I dont disrespect modern soldiers etc - but I have no respect for them
I wont just respect one group/class/race because it is fashionable to do so. Ill give respect based on individual actions of individuals. No one group is granted this.
p.s meltdown
qft
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If you define cowardice as running away at the first sign of danger, screaming and tripping and begging for mercy, then yes, Mr. Brave man, I guess I'm a coward.
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Apparently Ursus u don't understand the history of ur own country especially in Northern Ireland. The British army fought a moderately successful counter-insurgency in Northern Ireland and forced Gerry Adams to the table. Most of that was because both sides were sick of the fighting. If u think we're loosing in Iraq I would invite u over to Iraq next year when on I'm tour number 3 and u can see for urself. We have and continue to kick the dogshit out of AQ and the Taliban. U tough guys think fighting this kind of war is easy. If I don't have a target or can't engage, I can't kill anything. We shit canned the Iraqi army in a matter of weeks in 2003. This isn't that kind of war. This isn't Vietnam either, we're working hard not to kill civilains. Besides Vietnam..the NVA were close to throwing in the towel, it was the American people who bailed, not the US military. U should read a few books. U could not do my job...not even close...u couldn't do any of the jobs these kids do. I think alot of people like urslef are jealous, whether it be the uniforms, the pay, the life style or some manhood envy. I've been doing this for a very long time, and will never do anything else. Whats our alternative, leave to people like u, we'd all be overrun with ragheads or Russians or Germans.
With due respect the british MOD in admitted it could not beat the IRA - they are too similar to the vietcong AQ and teh taliban.
regarding my monkey comment - I was making teh point that the military are not teh smartest group of people in the world. Anyone with gumption and dedication can do well within it
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
On one hand, you are correct: eat a hero sandwich, and you are considered a hero, these days.
on the other hand: you are a socialist-go fuck yoruself
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a monkey can be a soldier.
a good soldier is one who does what he is told without questioning it. They are trained and many could do it.
many however cant be surgeons or doctors - mnay dont have teh brains to do so.
In the UK many thick unemployed ppl join the army - which has been proven to be corrupt. Becasue its a career and a job that pays the bills.
In teh USA its admirable the pride you have in your armed forces etc But your crusades are not admirable nor just.
I am sure they are when they are saving your chicken shit, lilly-livered countrymen
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With due respect the british MOD in admitted it could not beat the IRA - they are too similar to the vietcong AQ and teh taliban.
regarding my monkey comment - I was making teh point that the military are not teh smartest group of people in the world. Anyone with gumption and dedication can do well within it
It wasn't entirely a military problem, the MOD did a good job with their slice of the pie, same applies in Afghanistan or Iraq. I don't know how many military guys u know from the States, but the folks I work with are very highly educated. The lower enlisted in the US can't be rocks, with the level of equipment we work with every day. U guys have no idea what ur talking about. The VC were beaten in 1968, Vietnam is a completely different war. As are both Iraq and Afghanistan.
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I am sure they are when they are saving your chicken shit, lilly-livered countrymen
I am pretty sure withthe guns in Ireland if it came to we could muster an army.
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Great post! So many "Call of Duty" warriors out there(not just on this board) talk tough all day long, but really don't understand what the hell is going on out there. I just returned from a deployment in Iraq and I constantly hear from people who have never been in any type of armed conflict, exclaim "well if they mortared us from this direction I would...or "after they tried their ground attack I would...". Oh brother ::) You have to understand that there is a lot more going on than what is being released on CNN, BBC, etc...
glad you made it back safe, Trapper_Slapper
America needs more people like you
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Keep praising your american soldiers who fight for the country (newsflash:America is not really at war,just being idiots) while mexicans,africans etc move to usa keep breeding more and more while the troops are away
You have a fucking war going on in your own country but you dont realise this,I guess your president is an african so he doesnt mind
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Unfortunately the only kids attracted to military life are the dum dums and those with low self esteem. Majority of them have both. They need the uniforms, medals, big guns etc to feel like useful members of society. And they need to be stupid enough not to realise they can now be blown away in Afghanistan. Not heros, just little boys with low self esteem and small brains. And I was in the RAF for 12 years including the time of the first Desert Storm.
I was at Seaworld Florida in June. Before the show they asked all servicemen and former servicemen to stand. I stood. I was then subjected to a round of applause. I was mortified and felt patronised. What next ? Stand up all Mongols so we can applaud your courage and bravery in having the guts to go out on the street looking like a mongol? The mongols don't know there mongols so they need no applause. Same can be said of the military.
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Unfortunately the only kids attracted to military life are the dum dums and those with low self esteem. Majority of them have both. They need the uniforms, medals, big guns etc to feel like useful members of society. And they need to be stupid enough not to realise they can now be blown away in Afghanistan. Not heros, just little boys with low self esteem and small brains. And I was in the RAF for 12 years including the time of the first Desert Storm.
I was at Seaworld Florida in June. Before the show they asked all servicemen and former servicemen to stand. I stood. I was then subjected to a round of applause. I was mortified and felt patronised. What next ? Stand up all Mongols so we can applaud your courage and bravery in having the guts to go out on the street looking like a mongol? The mongols don't know there mongols so they need no applause. Same can be said of the military.
Got to disagree with you there, chap.
I'm currently training to be a Royal Marine and recruits with good A levels and degrees are common place. I've got a good degree and I didn't join up due to self-esteem issues... I joined up because I wanted to do something more interesting than sitting behind a desk all day.
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Unfortunately the only kids attracted to military life are the dum dums and those with low self esteem. Majority of them have both. They need the uniforms, medals, big guns etc to feel like useful members of society. And they need to be stupid enough not to realise they can now be blown away in Afghanistan. Not heros, just little boys with low self esteem and small brains. And I was in the RAF for 12 years including the time of the first Desert Storm.
I was at Seaworld Florida in June. Before the show they asked all servicemen and former servicemen to stand. I stood. I was then subjected to a round of applause. I was mortified and felt patronised. What next ? Stand up all Mongols so we can applaud your courage and bravery in having the guts to go out on the street looking like a mongol? The mongols don't know there mongols so they need no applause. Same can be said of the military.
hahaha typical chair-force attitude
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Got to disagree with you there, chap.
I'm currently training to be a Royal Marine and recruits with good A levels and degrees are common place. I've got a good degree and I didn't join up due to self-esteem issues... I joined up because I wanted to do something more interesting than sitting behind a desk all day.
U should become a crip
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U should become a crip
A crip?:
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Keep praising your american soldiers who fight for the country (newsflash:America is not really at war,just being idiots) while mexicans,africans etc move to usa keep breeding more and more while the troops are away
You have a fucking war going on in your own country but you dont realise this,I guess your president is an african so he doesnt mind
now that's a smart comment.
You people dont understand modern wars are only a way to force other countries to adopt multiculturalism and the occidental way of life : TV mac donald porn flat screens and 9/5 job everywhere in the world for everyone. This is the main goal of these wars, this is the main agenda of your so called occidental elites (politics, industrials, medias).
The goal of all occidental poilitcal elites is to mix all populations from all races /skin colors together , under the flag of capitalism consumerism and materialism.
The new world order where everyone buys and dont think is the real final goal , cause when everyone can buy, watch TV and dont think anymore, wars wont exist/happen anymore.
This is the doctrine folowed by bush, obama , canada's and england prime ministers, and european presidents.
Let's give/share these savages everything we have so they stop hating us and start to live like us. Welcome them in our countries and give em more rights than our own people, so they cant say we are racists, and more importantly: make of all em work so they can pay their new flat screen, SUV etc it will lower salaries for everyone if we import even more workers from the third world ; us and our industrials buddies will make even more money for a lower wage...
Soldiers nowadays are young people with very few skills who are unable to fit in society for whatever reasons and believe it or not BUT IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE, parents always sent their kids in the army cause they didnt know what to do with them.
The second reason is that it's a career where you can earn a shitload of oney not doing that much , epsecially if your country isnt at war.
These are both the main reasons why people enlist.
Now some other skilled people apply because they can make an even more bigger shitload of money as officers while staying away from the close quarter combat situations.
I'm not saying soldiers are dumb or serve no purpose considering wars are useless nowadays, I m just saying that it doesnt mean as much as it meant in the past to be a "soldier", and that we have to have a new different look of what is the army in our modern day and how to use it when most of the battles are counter insurgency type fights more and more taking in our own cities with terrorist like individuals.
Soldiers are conducting police/SWAT like missions more and more instead of real conventional wars with gorund vehicles etc.
To say it like it is, we ll only need in the future "police" squads in heavy armors able to face close quarters combats situations in cities and transport vehicles (wether it's air transport or ground or sea transports) and planes with laser guided bombs and nukes and that's it.
They ll mix police and army troops int he future, cause the threats we re going to face wil be the same everywhere wether it's inside our nations (well nations wont exist anymore anyway ) or in foreign countries.
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Hey dude..whats a real conventional war exactly...WW2 or Korea might well have been the last one. Its amazing listening to those who haven't served bash the military..amazing. The truth be told...I can't stand civilians. U people have no idea what the hell is going on overseas.
Soldiers nowadays are young people with very few skills who are unable to fit in society for whatever reasons and believe it or not ..... Can u fly a Predator drone or better yet..can u organize and run and manage the entire lives of 9 other people..not just 9-5...but 24/7 365 and thats just an "uneducated E4 or E5. Can u stop bleeding from major blunt trauma or fix a multi million dollar aircraft?
"Now some other skilled people apply because they can make an even more bigger shitload of money as officers while staying away from the close quarter combat situations"......yeah thats what I was thinking while Saddam's assholes were trying to kill me...how can I find a cushy job..wow u really need to put down the Call of Duty and stop watching Hollywood movies.
Oh and war is useless. Well lets see we have all the Middle East shit...we have the Balkans, remember that right? Then we have the Caucasus region were there's a shit ton of oil and alot of folks who really hate each other. U have no idea what the hell ur talking about. But there's hope...read a book.
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Hey dude..whats a real conventional war exactly...WW2 or Korea might well have been the last one. Its amazing listening to those who haven't served bash the military..amazing. The truth be told...I can't stand civilians. U people have no idea what the hell is going on overseas.
Soldiers nowadays are young people with very few skills who are unable to fit in society for whatever reasons and believe it or not ..... Can u fly a Predator drone or better yet..can u organize and run and manage the entire lives of 9 other people..not just 9-5...but 24/7 365 and thats just an "uneducated E4 or E5. Can u stop bleeding from major blunt trauma or fix a multi million dollar aircraft?
"Now some other skilled people apply because they can make an even more bigger shitload of money as officers while staying away from the close quarter combat situations"......yeah thats what I was thinking while Saddam's assholes were trying to kill me...how can I find a cushy job..wow u really need to put down the Call of Duty and stop watching Hollywood movies.
Oh and war is useless. Well lets see we have all the Middle East shit...we have the Balkans, remember that right? Then we have the Caucasus region were there's a shit ton of oil and alot of folks who really hate each other. U have no idea what the hell ur talking about. But there's hope...read a book.
A real war is where you are fighting for your country,you are 'minding' iraqis and peacekeepers,ie plastic soldiers
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Really..what units have u been in...what combat. Did u serve under Patton in WW2 or were u with the Marines at Inchon..what was that like...do tell. In other words..stick to ur video games because its obvious u have no idea. I was safer in 2003 in my tank then in 2006 walking around Afganistan.
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Hey dude..whats a real conventional war exactly...WW2 or Korea might well have been the last one. Its amazing listening to those who haven't served bash the military..amazing. The truth be told...I can't stand civilians. U people have no idea what the hell is going on overseas.
Soldiers nowadays are young people with very few skills who are unable to fit in society for whatever reasons and believe it or not ..... Can u fly a Predator drone or better yet..can u organize and run and manage the entire lives of 9 other people..not just 9-5...but 24/7 365 and thats just an "uneducated E4 or E5. Can u stop bleeding from major blunt trauma or fix a multi million dollar aircraft?
"Now some other skilled people apply because they can make an even more bigger shitload of money as officers while staying away from the close quarter combat situations"......yeah thats what I was thinking while Saddam's assholes were trying to kill me...how can I find a cushy job..wow u really need to put down the Call of Duty and stop watching Hollywood movies.
Oh and war is useless. Well lets see we have all the Middle East shit...we have the Balkans, remember that right? Then we have the Caucasus region were there's a shit ton of oil and alot of folks who really hate each other. U have no idea what the hell ur talking about. But there's hope...read a book.
for the love of god, you re telling me than the vast majority of soldiers fly UAV? on a daily basis ::) stop being a fucking ass, in the army most of the soldiers are just grunts with their uniforms and guns and that's it. Only the most skilled educated / diplomed ones are driving/flying vehicles just like in the civil world: those with more diplomas and more skills just do the best/SAFER stuff while the big majority of the others do the more menial/stupid/ less entertaining job.
Always been the same everywhere and especially in the army, and always will be. Videso games? Lets talk about that, No you re not going to fly jets or chinooks and snipe people like you do in videos games cause you joined the army: you ll be selected for what you can do best based on your skills...if you have none like most of the enlisted recruits, you end as a grunt.
You sound like a young immature soldier wanabe who enlisted and is waiting to go for boot camp for the first time and is trying to convince himself he did the right thing . You sound like you watched way to many ads for the US army more than a war "vet" who knows what he s talking about...
One thing is sure you're not a soldier. Just an utopist, delisuional young kid.
And again nowhere did i disrespect the army, im just telling it like it is without bullshiting. You on the other side seems brainwashed.
Those i know who enlist are way more smarter/down to earth than you on the subject, they enlist cause they know they cant do anything else and they want money and stability. They often have very few skills for leading a normal life in civil society and are honnest about it .
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Well lets see...I enlisted in the Marines in 1991 and was commissioned as an Armor Officer in 1996..thats almost 17 years which is what....a billion times more then u have. U have zero idea how the service works...zero and as usual here..u attack the messenger without anything to back it up. There are 3-5 support soldiers to every grunt...not to mention contractors..this argument is ridiculous as u have no idea what ur talking about. Its easy to see as u've bought into the hollywood "dumb grunt" line. I've seen E-4's calculate a fire mission without aid of the fire control computer, just a slide rule and a map...u of course have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, which, I guess, is my point. Just admit that u've never served, get ur info from hollywood and we can call it even. Or u can keep trying to convince urself that ur better then the average 19 year old hero with his M4, walking in Mosul, at this very minute. Feel free to continue to this idiotic debate. I can't believe its gone on this long.
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Well lets see...I enlisted in the Marines in 1991 and was commissioned as an Armor Officer in 1996..thats almost 17 years which is what....a billion times more then u have. U have zero idea how the service works...zero and as usual here..u attack the messenger without anything to back it up. There are 3-5 support soldiers to every grunt...not to mention contractors..this argument is ridiculous as u have no idea what ur talking about. Its easy to see as u've bought into the hollywood "dumb grunt" line. I've seen E-4's calculate a fire mission without aid of the fire control computer, just a slide rule and a map...u of course have no idea what the hell I'm talking about, which, I guess, is my point. Just admit that u've never served, get ur info from hollywood and we can call it even. Or u can keep trying to convince urself that ur better then the average 19 year old hero with his M4, walking in Mosul, at this very minute. Feel free to continue to this idiotic debate. I can't believe its gone on this long.
don't bother, headhunter...many lazy, entitled-feeling socialists plague this site
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Thanks man..I'm off the soapbox. ;D
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Thanks man..I'm off the soapbox. ;D
we direly need more like you
we honor you for your service and sacrifice
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The US and UK armies are getting beaten by primitives with 30 year old guns and stones. The UK army admitted they couldnt beat the IRA. The USA got beaten in Vietnam. You cant win a war where the enemy integrate so well with teh populace.
The enemy hides behind the populace, because they can't go toe-to-toe with our soldiers, pure and simple. Plus, the only reason our soldiers have the difficulties they do is because, they aren't playing by their rules. Otherwise, our boys could obliterate them in a matter of hours and be home in time for football season.
How many more lives will it take to realise this.
I am sure that many people if trained could do a lot of the jobs in the military - it is not elite, it is not honourable and you lot are not God.
Then, let's see you do it.
Despite the US and UKs protestations the majority of people oppose the war.
Many of which also think the terrorists will just go away, if they click their heels and say "Pretty Please, with sugar on top"
If you want to be a soldier by all means be one - your body your life your choice etc. You know the consequences etc.
But dont harp on about getting shot, your buddy getting killed or lack of compensation. It was your own conscious decision to do so.
That doesn't upset the folks in the Armed Forces nearly as much as hearing this garbage from folks like you.
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The enemy hides behind the populace, because they can't go toe-to-toe with our soldiers, pure and simple. Plus, the only reason our soldiers have the difficulties they do is because, they aren't playing by their rules. Otherwise, our boys could obliterate them in a matter of hours and be home in time for football season.
Then, let's see you do it.
Many of which also think the terrorists will just go away, if they click their heels and say "Pretty Please, with sugar on top"
That doesn't upset the folks in the Armed Forces nearly as much as hearing this garbage from folks like you.
Afghanistan is no threat to the West. They are an insular nation only interested in their own borders. When I joined the RAF the UK and USA were supporting it against the evil USSR.
Pakistan is the breeding ground for terrorists. We all know that. Unfortunately they are far too powerfull in terms of conventional forces and Nuclear ability for the USA to send their bully boys in.
ITS ALL ABOUT OIL GENTLEMEN. Having a foothold in the middle east because USA imports most of it's oil from there.
I want to thank all the Heros like Headhunter for allowing us all to still drive around with cheap gas in the USA. It is worth dying for gentlemen.
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Well they spill into Afghanistan....and we're not talking a solid border anyway and we roll into Pakistan enough to do what we need to. The Pakistani army has kicked enough AQ and Taliban back into Afghanistan to be a problem again.But in any event we all need the go-juice so what else are we gonna do. Until it dries up..we'll be busy.
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pakistan will be ruled by muslim extremist very soon and iran will too have the bomb, and they re both supported by chinese and russian.
In these kinds of wars, you dont need soldiers, just nukes, and the USA wont declare war to CHINA,RUSSIA,PAKISTAN,IRAN at the same time...
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This bullshit about "if it wasnt for teh army you would npotbe able to sit all day on getbiog stuffing your face blah blah blah"
if it wasnt for soldiers and armies noone would be invading other places for a need to defend.
soldier= just a job. no big deal.
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This bullshit about "if it wasnt for teh army you would npotbe able to sit all day on getbiog stuffing your face blah blah blah"
if it wasnt for soldiers and armies noone would be invading other places for a need to defend.
soldier= just a job. no big deal.
this is what i tried to tell him, but for some reason he thinks i hate the military and despise em, when i admire guys like petraeus and others,period.
But i wont say that the US militray is full of "heroes", all you have mainly there are grunts who do what they are told to do because thats what get em paid, case closed. It's a fuycking job for most nothing else.
I doubt they care about being recognized as heroes either. They re just doing their stuff, and most know that they arent there for freedom or other peacekeeping bullshits , they re there to secure oil ressources and prevent extremists from getting nukes, and use em against israel or europe or india.
Anyway if there s ever a major nuclear war between superpowers like china russia israel pakistan and the US, you can be sure soldiers will be useless. Even mechanized infantry will be useless. It would be about planes submarines and balistic missles and wouldnt last more than a few hours.
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if it wasnt for soldiers and armies noone would be invading other places for a need to defend.
Even in shithole afrikan countries, tribes invade each other with sticks and rocks. As long as people are alive, there will be invasions.
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Yeah..everybody would be hugging each other.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
Unless you pick up a weapon and fight, you have to no right to criticize what goes on in the military or the USA. You are a pathetic fuck... I spent 8 years defending the US against enemies and I can tell you straight up, I learned a lot about life and learned a trade from being in the Army. There were a lot of Hero's I served with but they were not looking for that title. They were in the Army for the same reason I was in, because we loved our country. It is people like you that are trying make this world a world of whiners...
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Great post...thanks for serving.
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Great post...thanks for serving.
agreed
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Unless you play in the NFL you cant criticise any NFL players.
Thats how stupid saying we are in no position to criticise the army.
Bunch of idiots who playwith guns then get mentally fucked in the head from seeing some blood and never work again.
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But i wont say that the US militray is full of "heroes", all you have mainly there are grunts who do what they are told to do because thats what get em paid, case closed. It's a fuycking job for most nothing else.
Your completely clueless about modern American soldiers and I'd bet you'd be shocked at how many have degrees, possess technical expertise, or work as analysts. Education is a top priority for the military. Watching "Apocolypse Now" doesn't make you an expert.
I doubt they care about being recognized as heroes either.
You're right about that. Never met one that signed up because he/she wanted to be labeled a hero.
Anyway if there s ever a major nuclear war between superpowers like china russia israel pakistan and the US, you can be sure soldiers will be useless. Even mechanized infantry will be useless. It would be about planes submarines and balistic missles and wouldnt last more than a few hours.
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Glad to see your military expertise enables you to make an insightful analysis such as this!
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Your completely clueless about modern American soldiers and I'd bet you'd be shocked at how many have degrees, possess technical expertise, or work as analysts. Education is a top priority for the military. Watching "Apocolypse Now" doesn't make you an expert.
You're right about that. Never met one that signed up because he/she wanted to be labeled a hero.
Glad to see your military expertise enables you to make an insightful analysis such as this!
like yours would be any better? ::)
Id like to understand the point you guys are trying to make exactly?
Who / what are you "fighting" for ? Do you at least have an answer to that?
Saying you enlisted "because you love your country" is a bit...how to say that...well let's say it s a bit naive and nobody s going to believe you for that, there are more important and down to earth reasons why people join the military. Care to speak about em?
And how you re any different from someone who works as a civilian and contribute to society producing good or services for the others? How does htat make em less of a hero than a soldier?
Saying "soldiers are heroes and civilisans are cowards etc" isnt going to help the cause you're trying to defend or the point you're trying to make either.
Noone here is shitting on the military, at worst we re saying these people wilingly enlisted and are well paid for doing menial stuff and that like in the civilian society those who are the most skilled get the better and safer jobs, that is absolutely the only things we ve been saying here. And that being in the military doesnt immediately makes you better of a hero than anyone who s a civilian, so no need to jump on your high horse.
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Why is a death of a soldier always a tragic incident? Somebody very rich lost money because of it.
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some disturbing attitudes in this thread
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One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Nelson Mandella for example.
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Well I don't know if if skip served but he defended the profession well enough. First off Uber....yeah i joined because I love my country, the fact that u can't believe that explains all I need to know about people like u. I joined the Marines because it was fun. I got $190 a month for the GI Bill, enough to booze while I was in college. I'm an Officer now....I choose tanks because it was fun and I was sick of walking. I planned to get out and join the Secret Service until those planes hit those damm buildings.
Why is my job or some of the others on here more important. I've led Soldiers and Marines and been responsible for every facet of their lives, especially in combat..even a police officer doesn't have to do that. I don't know what menial shit u think enlisted folks do....but I think u've seen Stripes one to many times. Military service doesn't make any of us better to begin with, but once idiots start shitting on us, it makes us much better then them. I love what I do and will do it or be connected to the DOD well after I take off the uniform. What exactly do u do for a living. Sorry but i think ur dealing with some inadequacies well beyond anything we're talking about here.
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One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter.
Nelson Mandella for example.
What does he have to do with anything?
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You think that you are saving america - however in Afghan you are thje terrorist invading their country
There are two sides to the coin
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Enemies have propaganda - we have the truth.
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Well I don't know if if skip served but he defended the profession well enough. First off Uber....yeah i joined because I love my country, the fact that u can't believe that explains all I need to know about people like u. I joined the Marines because it was fun. I got $190 a month for the GI Bill, enough to booze while I was in college. I'm an Officer now....I choose tanks because it was fun and I was sick of walking. I planned to get out and join the Secret Service until those planes hit those damm buildings.
Why is my job or some of the others on here more important. I've led Soldiers and Marines and been responsible for every facet of their lives, especially in combat..even a police officer doesn't have to do that. I don't know what menial shit u think enlisted folks do....but I think u've seen Stripes one to many times. Military service doesn't make any of us better to begin with, but once idiots start shitting on us, it makes us much better then them. I love what I do and will do it or be connected to the DOD well after I take off the uniform. What exactly do u do for a living. Sorry but i think ur dealing with some inadequacies well beyond anything we're talking about here.
You seem arrogant and cocky - kinda the shit teh army have as though we owe you shit. You get paid so its your job - anything other than your food clothing weapons and shelter is a fucking bonus
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You think that you are saving america - however in Afghan you are thje terrorist invading their country
There are two sides to the coin
Were do you think Bin Laden was before we pushed him into the border? And have you ever spoke with an Afghany? Or are you just calling us terrorists because that's YOUR opinion?
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You seem arrogant and cocky - kinda the shit teh army have as though we owe you shit. You get paid so its your job - anything other than your food clothing weapons and shelter is a fucking bonus
And you're not arrogant or cocky? Show one post where HH6 asked for anything?
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You think that you are saving america - however in Afghan you are thje terrorist invading their country
There are two sides to the coin
you can't understand how much we're helping unless you've been on the ground
building schools, providing security to villages, protecting the rights of women and children, improving infrastructure, providing medical aid to rural areas, training the Afghan military and police . . .
when you go out for a patrol or a mission and children run to wave and give you thumbs up, you know you're making at least their world a better place
the Taliban threaten, beat, and kill Afghan's everyday and throw acid into the face of girls going to school
whether or not you agree with why we went to Afghanistan in the first place, the people deserve a life of peace and freedom, something they can never have with the Taliban in power
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Were do you think Bin Laden was before we pushed him into the border? And have you ever spoke with an Afghany? Or are you just calling us terrorists because that's YOUR opinion?
I was trying to illustrate a point.
Big Poppa J - teh chools hospitals etc is great. genuinely.
However the USA put the Taliban in power to fight the sovietssupplied them with guns etc - they are just trying to clean up their own mess
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Again read a book...we didn't put the Taliban in power..the Taliban is a Pakistani/Saudi Arabian creation. They came to power in 1994 after the guys we backed, lost. We're there to clean up AQ, if the Taliban had turned him over or never give OBL a haven, we never would have gone there. BPJ is exactly right. As for owing, u idiots started this by bashing enlisted guys. Who will be running this country in 20 years, Vets, just like after Vietnam. Who runs GE, FED EX, Home Depot etc etc etc...vets and its not because we're idiots without anything else to do. War and the current political climate will be with us for a very very long time.
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Ursus, I generally like reading your posts, but you have never been in the military, correct?
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Ursus, I generally like reading your posts, but you have never been in the military, correct?
"ursus" is a foreigner, complaining about American policies.
Typical.
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"ursus" is a foreigner, complaining about American policies.
Typical.
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"ursus" is a foreigner, complaining about American policies.
Typical.
I just always find it amusing that often people with no military experience consider themselves so informed about the day to day goings on. I guess they read a couple of Clancy novels or played Ghost Recon.....
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Nice to see you back, "Big"MarkC. ;)
I just always find it amusing that often people with no military experience consider themselves so informed about the day to day goings on. I guess they read a couple of Clancy novels or played Ghost Recon.....
Especially people that are from outside US and have no idea about how the military in the US works.
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Nice to see you back, "Big"MarkC. ;)
Have you been doing your calf raises ch ankle os?
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I dont any armies.
war is teh biggest waste of life there is. seriously.
i dont understand people gloryifying it
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Have you been doing your calf raises ch ankle os?
Not this week, just chillin out.
Have you kept up with your no hands, face down pipe consumption?
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Outed and I didn't even have to use a photoshopped pic. ;)
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sometimes right and wrong are less clear than black and white
often you must choose the shade of grey that is most right
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Who the hell is doing that...nobody here has said combat is fun or cool...not even close. There are things that are fun about military service, things that suck and things that just are....but u guys are making comment after comment about crap u don't have clue about. We speak an entirely different language then u guys. Plus ur either a Brit or Irish, either way the Brit MOD has been made into a shell of what it once was. We're aren't them. The soldiers they produce are still very good and by no means idiots.
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They are idiots. I have experienced it first hand. Cant be trusted.
Murdered so so many and colluded with loyalist terrorists then covered it up. A civilian army beat them. Pathetic. thats whatwill happen in Afghan. Mark my words
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With due respect the british MOD in admitted it could not beat the IRA - they are too similar to the vietcong AQ and teh taliban.
regarding my monkey comment - I was making teh point that the military are not teh smartest group of people in the world. Anyone with gumption and dedication can do well within it
Seriously, dude, your a focking idiot. Like HH6 said, you got 18 year old kids fixing multimillion dollar airplanes, launching and recovering fighter aircraft from aircraft carriers, leading patrols and driving tanks, the list goes on and on. Saying, anyone can do it, is shit. High attrition rates in the military are there for a reason, to weed out the idiots and the weak. You dispense pills and still live at home, correct. You have ZERO world experience. These guys have seen more and done more in their short lives than you can imagine. Educate yourself some more, fella.
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Not this week, just chillin out.
Have you kept up with your no hands, face down pipe consumption?
Outed and I didn't even have to use a photoshopped pic. ;)
Brutal jealousy that I am still living the dream and you are middle aged and not allowed to have fun anymore because you are married and have to do as your wife says 8)
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Hahahaha every time NZ and Chaos square off, the thread's quality goes up 300% straightaway ;D 8)
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They are trained to do it.
Bet those same guys couldnt build a laptop from scratch.
They are merely trained to operate it - requires gumption and a degree of intelligence/ability to learn. If they were such genius theywould be working for Bill Gates developing a new system earing 20 million dollars a year
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Brutal jealousy that I am still living the dream and you are middle aged and not allowed to have fun anymore because you are married and have to do as your wife says 8)
I would rather do as my wife says than be like you, laying face down while another man shoves his hose in your mouth and some twink half undressed cheers you on. :)
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I just always find it amusing that often people with no military experience consider themselves so informed about the day to day goings on. I guess they read a couple of Clancy novels or played Ghost Recon.....
Don't forget the guys who become deadly killing machines from playing Halo / Splinter cell, the fat guys who are experts on dieting and give out tons of advice on the same, and the "wise philosophers" who mock and get all condescending on others, even though they can't put together one sentence without enough spelling mistakes and grammatical errors to make an elementary school English teacher cringe ;D
Only in Getbig hahaha!
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Well u see those guys who get all that training...do go work for Microsoft. How about Sub guys....u know those 19 or 20 year old idiots that manage to get through Nuke Power School and do as few cruises on a sub....they come out of the navy and make a fortune and thats before college. They guy who builds a laptop has to be trained as well....but does he have to drag his ass up at 5:30 to go run 3 miles, qual on a weapon, deploy, get shot at, deal with all BS etc. Yeah he signed up sure but neither does he have to take ur uneducated bullshit. Look I've seen ER and House, it doesn't qualify me to be a doctor. U've seen a few movies, congrats..thats not the Service.
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Don't forget the guys who become deadly killing machines from playing Halo / Splinter cell, the fat guys who are experts on dieting and give out tons of advice on the same, and the "wise philosophers" who mock and get all condescending on others, even though they can't put together one sentence without enough spelling mistakes and grammatical errors to make an elementary school English teacher cringe ;D
Only in Getbig hahaha!
haha, yes. I've met experts in virtually every walk of life on getbig!
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Don't forget the guys who become deadly killing machines from playing Halo / Splinter cell, the fat guys who are experts on dieting and give out tons of advice on the same, and the "wise philosophers" who mock and get all condescending on others, even though they can't put together one sentence without enough spelling mistakes and grammatical errors to make an elementary school English teacher cringe ;D
Only in Getbig hahaha!
The standard military uniform should include a TAPOUT shirt.
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I would rather do as my wife says than be like you, laying face down while another man shoves his hose in your mouth and some twink half undressed cheers you on. :)
What's wrong with men dressing up as super hero's and drinking beer ???
Oh.... I forgot, you like to hang out in car parks with half naked men and pull on things until you can't pull no more.
Take notes. When men get together you drink beer. Not get all sweaty and prance around half naked.
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Bet those same guys couldnt build a laptop from scratch.
Could you ???
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Take notes. When men get together you drink beer. Not get all sweaty and prance around half naked.
Care to take that back or is your cheerleader a really flat chested chick ???
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Well u see those guys who get all that training...do go work for Microsoft. How about Sub guys....u know those 19 or 20 year old idiots that manage to get through Nuke Power School and do as few cruises on a sub....they come out of the navy and make a fortune and thats before college. They guy who builds a laptop has to be trained as well....but does he have to drag his ass up at 5:30 to go run 3 miles, qual on a weapon, deploy, get shot at, deal with all BS etc. Yeah he signed up sure but neither does he have to take ur uneducated bullshit. Look I've seen ER and House, it doesn't qualify me to be a doctor. U've seen a few movies, congrats..thats not the Service.
Lotof security guards in my shop have been ex army. idiots. Living in past dont shut up about the army. Theysigned up for the job - theyknew what it was so why do they ram it down other throats.
the armymustnt be thathard withthe amount of snapping fotos making fun of kids, tortuyring locals, raping women and generally be assholes that is exposed on the internet. Obviously this is a small proportionbut seriously - its much too high
A soldier is not a hero -its a guywho wanted an unusualjob. all itis- a job
Could you ???
My point is its all relative - you get trained youcan do things. Give me 3 years trianing I could build a laptop. £ years training i could drive a tank etc
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Care to take that back or is your cheerleader a really flat chested chick ???
Are you saying you prefer your men to have titties....... like big_mal?
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Maybe Urus' its because they have zero in come with u and want to talk to the other vets about stuff they share in come. U seem to be pretty touchy about it, as if those in the service are an affront to ur manhood..in other words u feel like a pussy because u didn't serve. Who cares, just don't belittle guys who have. We feel its an important job. As for the other crap...sure it happens but its much smaller a then the proportion of stupid shit that civilians do. Look at the pics in this thread...i'm still trying to connect superhero outfits and beer drinking.
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Are you saying you prefer your men to have titties....... like big_mal?
I'm saying your cheerleader is half naked and watching you suck on hose being held by another man.
BTW, brutal 14" arms, receding hairline with the chops for distraction, 19" quads and puckered up cocksucker lips.
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Lotof security guards in my shop have been ex army. idiots. Living in past dont shut up about the army. Theysigned up for the job - theyknew what it was so why do they ram it down other throats.
the armymustnt be thathard withthe amount of snapping fotos making fun of kids, tortuyring locals, raping women and generally be assholes that is exposed on the internet. Obviously this is a small proportionbut seriously - its much too high
A soldier is not a hero -its a guywho wanted an unusualjob. all itis- a job
My point is its all relative - you get trained youcan do things. Give me 3 years trianing I could build a laptop. £ years training i could drive a tank etc
Man, did your girl get gangbanged by a battalion, or something? Your "views" of the military have obviously been distorted by some traumatic event to think that everybody in the military behaves that way. Perhaps a drunken one slapped you around while you were bouncing?
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Dude, the british army is only army i have experienced.
They are crul corrupt and unjust. seen it first hand. Everyone in Ireland has
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Dude, the british army is only army i have experienced.
They are crul corrupt and unjust. seen it first hand. Everyone in Ireland has
Ah, I can see being Irish and having a very bad view of the British military. But don't lump everybody in the US military into that lot. Sure, there are some assholes, but the vast majority are decent guys. Does Ireland have a sizable military?
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Ok Ill apopogise for any offence caused - i dont know much about US army etc
The Brits are assholes though.
Ireland does have a fair sized army for its size but they are mainly in peace keeping missions etc - been in congofor years and they are not actively engaged in any conflict toa large extent I dont think
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I'm saying your cheerleader is half naked and watching you suck on hose being held by another man.
BTW, brutal 14" arms, receding hairline with the chops for distraction, 19" quads and puckered up cocksucker lips.
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Please excuse me as I have to go out and get some vagina now.
Enjoy your 40+ posts today while you wife weeps in another room about her empty marriage. But you stick at it and get that posts per day average up carnie ;)
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Ok Ill apopogise for any offence caused - i dont know much about US army etc
The Brits are assholes though.
Ireland does have a fair sized army for its size but they are mainly in peace keeping missions etc - been in congofor years and they are not actively engaged in any conflict toa large extent I dont think
Apology accepted. Like I said in my first post, I've always considered you a standup guy.
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My point is its all relative - you get trained youcan do things. Give me 3 years trianing I could build a laptop. £ years training i could drive a tank etc
Give me the keys and I Could drive a tank
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No probs folks. Im out of this thread now lol
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Please excuse me as I have to go out and get some vagina now.
Enjoy your 40+ posts today while you wife weeps in another room about her empty marriage. But you stick at it and get that posts per day average up carnie ;)
LOL, and you keep getting drunk and chasing fat sheep as long as you stay away from pre-teen girls, we're cool. ;)
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They are idiots. I have experienced it first hand. Cant be trusted.
Murdered so so many and colluded with loyalist terrorists then covered it up. A civilian army beat them. Pathetic. thats whatwill happen in Afghan. Mark my words
your comments are getting stupider and make no sense.
Your hate for the armies is showing and that's not my position.
Guys from both sides: dont be extremistic portraying the US army either as full of great heroes or full of idiots, and be realistic about what motivate people to enlist.
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Give me the keys and I Could drive a tank
U don't need keys....push button start and ur good.
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U don't need keys....push button start and ur good.
they have onstar now?
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don't you have to take a test to enlist...the asvab or whatever
I scored an eighty something and found out to enlist in the army you needed a minimum score of.....................o f.........
sixteen.
good god, as an eighty something do I really want a sixteen behind me with a big weapon?
tanks, but no tanks!
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you can't understand how much we're helping unless you've been on the ground
building schools, providing security to villages, protecting the rights of women and children, improving infrastructure, providing medical aid to rural areas, training the Afghan military and police . . .
when you go out for a patrol or a mission and children run to wave and give you thumbs up, you know you're making at least their world a better place
the Taliban threaten, beat, and kill Afghan's everyday and throw acid into the face of girls going to school
whether or not you agree with why we went to Afghanistan in the first place, the people deserve a life of peace and freedom, something they can never have with the Taliban in power
100% true. Nice post. I've seen it myself and couldn't agree more.
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don't you have to take a test to enlist...the asvab or whatever
I scored an eighty something and found out to enlist in the army you needed a minimum score of.....................o f.........
sixteen.
good god, as an eighty something do I really want a sixteen behind me with a big weapon?
tanks, but no tanks!
Sorry but with an 80 u don't qualify for much...unless u want to drive a truck.
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I'm getting sick and tired of the overuse of the word "HERO". The media is fucking obsessed with this word ever since 9/11. Especially how they label these 19 year old hispanic or black high school drop outs that join the military, get sent to Iraq, kill kids and rape woman then call them heroes when they get back home. I know a lot of this is part of the military marketing machine to make degenerate teens feel like they can be "something" or a "hero".
Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
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Or how all cops are now considered heroes. ::) Give me a fucking break.
Cops, in general, are NOT "heros"... they're just guys doing a job. And just like guys in any other job under the sun, a very few may have occasion to perform heroic acts, but most are average guys with no particular qualities that really distinguish them, and a lot are just plain assholes.
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Lotof security guards in my shop have been ex army. idiots. Living in past dont shut up about the army. Theysigned up for the job - theyknew what it was so why do they ram it down other throats.
the armymustnt be thathard withthe amount of snapping fotos making fun of kids, tortuyring locals, raping women and generally be assholes that is exposed on the internet. Obviously this is a small proportionbut seriously - its much too high
A soldier is not a hero -its a guywho wanted an unusualjob. all itis- a job
My point is its all relative - you get trained youcan do things. Give me 3 years trianing I could build a laptop. £ years training i could drive a tank etc
A doormonkey calling people in the military idiots? Brilliant!
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Nonsense.
Considering Belfast was Blitzed in WW2 that would have been stupid propaganda. Plus lots from Ireland fough in WW2.
i am thinking more about collussion during teh troubles, bloody sunday etc.
Had I do the door part time - I dont act tough or look tough. Simple another easy way to get paid.
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LOL, and you keep getting drunk and chasing fat sheep as long as you stay away from pre-teen girls, we're cool. ;)
I didnt get no pussy :( but i got drunk ;)
and i am eating so life is almost good
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I'm talking about the people in Eire around Dublin. Bombing Belfast would have been seen as an attack against the british invaders as it is a british city. The Yanks don't seem to realise that the land mass of Ireland comprises two countries.
Ok mate, I can understand how it must have been in the 70's around Belfast with arsehole soldiers abusing their power. Some proddy ones would have seen it as a licence to abuse Catholics I'm sure. I remember a lot of scottish protestant scumbags who left school the mid 70's who joined the army with the sole desire of attacking catholics in Ireland. Another reason why the majority of soldiers are not heros.
I dunno man, The free statesent ambulances and fire engines up to help with the wounded. I am sure it may have happened but it would have been the minority.
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"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
- Henry A. Kissinger
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"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy."
- Henry A. Kissinger
Aint that the truth...
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Aint that the truth...
Yes, indeed... it's not a big problem if that's my opinion of military and soldiers, because i've got basically no noteworthy power.. but people in key positions like henry kissinger, a former secretary of state under nixon and still an adviser to the current president, if they think of the military in those terms, well... then we have some major problems going on...
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Really..what units have u been in...what combat. Did u serve under Patton in WW2 or were u with the Marines at Inchon..what was that like...do tell. In other words..stick to ur video games because its obvious u have no idea. I was safer in 2003 in my tank then in 2006 walking around Afganistan.
How many people have you killed??
Not even one I bet
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I wouldn't discuss it with an idiot like u...only assholes ask questions like that..what are u 12.
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You've probably killed less people than me and youre supposed to be a soldier ::)
I saw this documentary ages ago,called Commando or something,well this guy called John is in it,his daughter is kidnapped and he kills tons of bad guys and throws a pipe through the main bad guy and saves his daughter,now thats a hero,not a plastic peacekeeper like you
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Oh ok tough guy..... ::) ur my hero..oh wait ur a douchbag sorry.
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Oh ok tough guy..... ::) ur my hero..oh wait ur a douchbag sorry.
Im a real hero,iv saved lives
You walked around with a gun that you probably didnt know how to use
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Ok buddy..wow u must have a major inferiority complex. And I care why?
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I didnt get no pussy :( but i got drunk ;)
and i am eating so life is almost good
What happened, the sheep getting faster?
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You are pretty sucky soldier if you haven't killed anybody...
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You are pretty sucky soldier if you haven't killed anybody...
If you dont kill at least 4 people you should be kicked out of army
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To date i have killed 5 people.........
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What happened, the sheep getting faster?
Drink > vagina 8)
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Drink > vagina 8)
Do you flex/pose when you are drunk? Give a quick arm shot?
Admit it, you do.....
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Do you flex/pose when you are drunk? Give a quick arm shot?
Admit it, you do.....
I get pleaded with to hit poses. I consider it my duty to please the masses 8)
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I get pleaded with to hit poses. I consider it my duty to please the masses 8)
You are a man with muscles.......
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You are a man with muscles.......
I hit a couple of poses and then ask...... 'who wants to see my best pose?'........ that is the point where i flop out my cock 8)
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I hit a couple of poses and then ask...... 'who wants to see my best pose?'........ that is the point where i flop out my cock 8)
I roll up my jeans and flex my calves and then i realise that no one is really that impressed with big calves. :(
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I roll up my jeans and flex my calves and then i realise that no one is really that impressed with big calves. :(
Maybe you should have pulled down your pants and showed them your shredded glutes?
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Maybe you should have pulled down your pants and showed them your shredded glutes?
I feel ashamed to admit this.......but.......... ..............i have never had shredded glutes. :'( :-[