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Title: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 08:35:34 AM
allright fellas here it is, and my goals are to add as much detail, seperation, and density as possible.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Spike on January 20, 2011, 08:39:28 AM
so one arm is fat?

just switch hit when You jerk off - balances out your grip strength too
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 20, 2011, 08:40:44 AM
allright fellas here it is, and my goals are to add as much detail, seperation, and density as possible.

no pics?|

(http://www.iamletired.com/forums/images/smilies/BooThisMan.gif)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: _bruce_ on January 20, 2011, 08:50:28 AM
Trim your stink hair.

Looks good, but if you have the specific muscled look as a goal(full as fuck), it may be hard.
Pumped up before taking the shots.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: SF1900 on January 20, 2011, 08:57:52 AM
you have a very pointy elbow.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 09:02:33 AM
allright fellas here it is, and my goals are to add as much detail, seperation, and density as possible.

if i remember correctyly you are a natural and train already for many years,, so you will not add any more real mass after training so many years,, so zero will happen to arm other than regulating BF %

no attack,, just reality
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Mr Nobody on January 20, 2011, 09:05:08 AM
A full length bicep you have makes for good potential in size, looks like around 13-14% BF level so keep striving for the detail lower cals slowly so as not to lose size if thats the goal.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: TEsticles on January 20, 2011, 09:22:47 AM
...remember to switch to the european  overhand grip whilst masturbating  for tricep development.....
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 09:25:56 AM
There is no pump at all in those photos, and in fact when I post the progress pics I won't pump up either. The thing is, I'm not really sure how to go about getting the seperation and density. Should I get absolutely shredded 1st, then put on more size while staying shredded, or try to do both at the same time, gain more size while simultaneously getting leaner? I think the 1st route might be better, get shredded first, then add the size after I'm shredded. Thanks for the props about my bis Mr. N, but I think that you gotta be joking man, coz my biceps suck ass. They are BY FAR my worst upper body part. And in fact, that's a big part of this "project" to say what I can with these shit biceps of mine.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Jaime on January 20, 2011, 09:46:49 AM
There is no pump at all in those photos, and in fact when I post the progress pics I won't pump up either. The thing is, I'm not really sure how to go about getting the seperation and density. Should I get absolutely shredded 1st, then put on more size while staying shredded, or try to do both at the same time, gain more size while simultaneously getting leaner? I think the 1st route might be better, get shredded first, then add the size after I'm shredded. Thanks for the props about my bis Mr. N, but I think that you gotta be joking man, coz my biceps suck ass. They are BY FAR my worst upper body part. And in fact, that's a big part of this "project" to say what I can with these shit biceps of mine.


Dj you over analyze everything. You have been training natty for donkeys years, you are not going to go through any great changes muscle wise. Get down to low bodyfat, see where you are at and then add detail and density.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Master Blaster on January 20, 2011, 09:51:01 AM
I've got the same pointy elbow syndrome.

Actually, I think mine is worse.   :-X
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: CalvinH on January 20, 2011, 10:09:25 AM
allright fellas here it is, and my goals are to add as much detail, seperation, and density as possible.





Whats your arm workout ???
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JP_RC on January 20, 2011, 10:24:04 AM
How the hell do you add detail to a muscle?  :-\
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: mass243 on January 20, 2011, 10:26:07 AM
How the hell do you add detail to a muscle?  :-\

By doing isolation movements  :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I read it from Flex  :D    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: mass243 on January 20, 2011, 10:28:27 AM
BTW dj, post some pics of your wife so I can fully analyze how we can add 2 - 3,5 inches to your arms in one month or less! I'm serious.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: SF1900 on January 20, 2011, 10:29:14 AM
By doing isolation movements  :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I read it from Flex  :D    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

If Flex said it, it must be true :)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Go 4 It on January 20, 2011, 10:29:34 AM
Focus on tris, big tris=big arms
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: MONSTER_TRICEPS on January 20, 2011, 10:31:58 AM
Brutal 11 inch arms and invisible delt syndrome. Gayer than a catholic priest having grab-ass appointments with 11 year olds.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 20, 2011, 10:33:57 AM
Brutal pipe cleaners.




Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JP_RC on January 20, 2011, 10:49:18 AM
By doing isolation movements  :D

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I read it from Flex  :D    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Burning in the chest striations man!! Cable crossovers all the way!!


Seriously @ dj181, I would say focus on adding more size before trying to cut.

Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 10:59:26 AM
Yeah I know that the detail and seperation comes from getting leaner, but muscle density comes from training right? Yes, I am a natty trainer, but the thing is I haven't trained hard and consistanly for years, at least 8 years ago was when I really and truly trained hard and consistantly. And jamie, I think you got it right about getting lean 1st. And Calvin, if I told you my arm routine I'm sure that you wouldn't believe me, but let me give you a hint... It's very low volume coupled with progressive overload.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 20, 2011, 11:06:59 AM
That is one feminine arm minus the nasty hair.



Have you tried eating and training with weights?



Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: The True Adonis on January 20, 2011, 11:17:08 AM
You have a TON of fat to lose on your whole body if that is your arm.  A ways to go before you see anything.  Were you a fat ass at one point for a considerable length of time?  If you do decide to lean down, go all the way and keep it for as long as possible to purge all of that nasty and stubborn fat that you have accumulated.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: _bruce_ on January 20, 2011, 11:20:08 AM
I've got the same pointy elbow syndrome.

Actually, I think mine is worse.   :-X


Don't worry, at least they sound better when they break.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: che on January 20, 2011, 11:21:42 AM
Yeah I know that the detail and seperation comes from getting leaner, but muscle density comes from training right? Yes, I am a natty trainer, but the thing is I haven't trained hard and consistanly for years, at least 8 years ago was when I really and truly trained hard and consistantly. And jamie, I think you got it right about getting lean 1st. And Calvin, if I told you my arm routine I'm sure that you wouldn't believe me, but let me give you a hint... It's very low volume coupled with progressive overload.

Dj forget about  all the shit you read on the internetz  ,A.Jones  ,low volume , High rep ,cal is a cal  ........................ .etc

Just lift heavy ,eat right and  rest (consistently )
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Emmortal on January 20, 2011, 11:22:42 AM
Up the dose.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: CalvinH on January 20, 2011, 11:51:08 AM
Yeah I know that the detail and seperation comes from getting leaner, but muscle density comes from training right? Yes, I am a natty trainer, but the thing is I haven't trained hard and consistanly for years, at least 8 years ago was when I really and truly trained hard and consistantly. And jamie, I think you got it right about getting lean 1st. And Calvin, if I told you my arm routine I'm sure that you wouldn't believe me, but let me give you a hint... It's very low volume coupled with progressive overload.



Change your workout....not saying it's bad but you need to shock your arms....I never do the same arm workout twice.
I'll do the same exercises sometimes but never in the same order.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JasonH on January 20, 2011, 12:12:37 PM
I couldn't make my underarm hair look that repulsive if I tried.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 12:18:59 PM
I'm curious che, when you say "rest" what do you mean actually? For example, only train 3 times a week? Train each body part once a week?
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 12:20:38 PM
So where would you put my % bodyfat at TA?
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: tendonitis on January 20, 2011, 12:21:52 PM
title of this thread should have been my fat very hairy arm
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Master Blaster on January 20, 2011, 12:23:23 PM
massive pitts
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2011, 01:05:23 PM
Still think you will reach your goal of 17" at 6%? BTW, what is your time frame for this transformation?

If you get even remotely close to 16" @ 6% that would be absolutely extraordinary.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: che on January 20, 2011, 01:07:04 PM
I'm curious che, when you say "rest" what do you mean actually?
Sleep
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2011, 01:11:35 PM
Yeah I know that the detail and seperation comes from getting leaner, but muscle density comes from training right? Yes, I am a natty trainer, but the thing is I haven't trained hard and consistanly for years, at least 8 years ago was when I really and truly trained hard and consistantly. And jamie, I think you got it right about getting lean 1st. And Calvin, if I told you my arm routine I'm sure that you wouldn't believe me, but let me give you a hint... It's very low volume coupled with progressive overload.

What's the big secret. If it's low volume it should be easy to write down.

I did arms yesterday.
1. One drop set of barbell curls (4 sets one after another ending with the 30lb bar)
2. One set each of single arm curls on a machine with a decline bench support. Done to failure plus force reps and burns/partials at the end.

Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: cephissus on January 20, 2011, 01:28:40 PM
Pellius, do you do that arm workout once a week, twice?  After back?  On a separate day?  Just wondering.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 20, 2011, 01:29:52 PM
Pellius, do you do that arm workout once a week, twice?  After back?  On a separate day?  Just wondering.
When he's not lactating out of those sweet milky nips of his.



Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Jaime on January 20, 2011, 01:46:45 PM
Dj forget about  all the shit you read on the internetz  ,A.Jones  ,low volume , High rep ,cal is a cal  ........................ .etc

Just lift heavy ,eat right and  rest (consistently )


Too simplistic.  :P

But seriously just do this, your genetics dictate the rest, if you don't like it start with the vitamin c jabs.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 01:58:22 PM
Well pellius, I think that I woke up from that dream where I would have 17 inch arms @ 6% natty lol But, in all sincerity I really do think that I can hit 16 inches at 7% My plan is to get lean 1st sub-7 and then gain size while I stay lean. As far as time frame goes, I plan on hitting sub-7 in 4 weeks time. I'm gonna follow a 3 day on/1 day off cal cycle, for 3 days I will eat roughly 1200 cals, and then one the off day I will eat what I want, but not go over 3000 cals. As far as my arm routine is concerned, I do one work set of db overhead tri ext and 1 work set of db concentration curls, and that is my arm routine. P.S. I went for a run today, and fuck me, running kicks ass! I thought that I was something on my stationary bike, but... Well, lets just say that there is no aerobic training that compares to running.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2011, 02:34:32 PM
Pellius, do you do that arm workout once a week, twice?  After back?  On a separate day?  Just wondering.

Once a week. For upper body I use the push/pull method. Chest/delts/triceps on Monday, Back/Bis/Rear Delt Weds, Legs Sat.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 20, 2011, 02:37:06 PM
When he's not lactating out of those sweet milky nips of his.



Dom out!

Don't act like you don't like it.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: radioflyer46 on January 20, 2011, 04:05:39 PM
    O.P needs to be felt up, nice arm thou.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Marty Champions on January 20, 2011, 04:10:48 PM
wow what a stud
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: 225for70 on January 20, 2011, 04:12:43 PM

Too simplistic.  :P

But seriously just do this, your genetics dictate the rest, if you don't like it start with the vitamin c jabs.

Then like Rafael Palmeiro move on to injectable b12, then stanzolola, testosterona,
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
no no,, like i said if you natural and stay natural,, nothing will happen to you if you trained a few years,, you go up and down BF but no true growth anymore will happen,, strength can go up but no more real growing

there is no idea to think about training so much if you trained many years,, better to maintain good low BF and be happy,, you can look good at 165lbs with low body fat but no use thinking so much,, just diet down and maintain and then get new hobby to remove your mind from bodybuiolding or go to hormones
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Marty Champions on January 20, 2011, 04:18:23 PM
this guys just needs to train hard or heavy and eat alot

theres no diet in the world that will give you a ripped body and have a surplus of energy

better to have a surplus of energy at all times and some fat and lift hard or heavy
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 20, 2011, 04:19:49 PM
I call my dick my "fat arm"
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JOEBEAST on January 20, 2011, 04:20:26 PM
dude you need to bulk up and work with the basic movements if you want your arms to grow,work hard with narrow grip bench and dips,and do arms together on their own day
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: kiwiol on January 20, 2011, 04:27:49 PM
As far as my arm routine is concerned, I do one work set of db overhead tri ext and 1 work set of db concentration curls, and that is my arm routine.

That's not a routine.

In fact, that's not even a fcuking warm up.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 04:29:00 PM
dude you need to bulk up and work with the basic movements if you want your arms to grow,work hard with narrow grip bench and dips,and do arms together on their own day

 if he does this he will only get fat,, he has already trained many years from what ai  remember ,, bulking is only for early training years for naturals,, and even they you gotta be careful so you do not go too much into oink oink mode

it is tough reality for naturals,, many they trick themselves with going up and down in fatness,, but no true growth anymore
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Master Blaster on January 20, 2011, 04:42:59 PM
if he does this he will only get fat,, he has already trained many years from what ai  remember ,, bulking is only for early training years for naturals,, and even they you gotta be careful so you do not go too much into oink oink mode

it is tough reality for naturals,, many they trick themselves with going up and down in fatness,, but no true growth anymore

True, except for the bulking part. Naturals shoulder NEVER bulk EVER
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 04:50:58 PM
No disrespect to you nolotil, coz you have lots of knowledge and you know what's up, but I'm gonna give it a go (meaning to get lean 1st and then put some more muscle on my fat arm) I'm not saying that it will happen, but I sure as hell am gonna try it. So, the plan is as follows... Hit sub-7 1st and then post update pics (at that point, I imagine that my arm will look softer and flater) and the 2nd phase will be to stay lean, sub-7, and then fill the arm back out with much more seperation, detail, and hopefully density. I don't know if it will work out the way I plan, but that is how I'm gonna approach it.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JOEBEAST on January 20, 2011, 04:53:22 PM
True, except for the bulking part. Naturals shoulder NEVER bulk EVER
if you always stay at the same weight and never bulk your strength and size will never come, isee so many people use the same weights are the same size every year and dont grow cause they dont eat enough to grow
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 04:55:15 PM
And you're right Master Blaster, naturals should never, ever bulk. I did that 3 seperate times, and maybe the 1st time I got a little bit from it, but the last 2 times it was a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 04:56:13 PM
True, except for the bulking part. Naturals shoulder NEVER bulk EVER

when i say bulk,, i do not mean pig bulk maybe we use the word with different meaning  ;),, but first few years you can have higher caloric surplus compared to later years,, after some years its waste as too much calories go to fat and not enough to muscle,,

i agree natural bodybuilder never should go over 14-15% ,, if real serious and obsessed or natural lean no over 12%
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Jaime on January 20, 2011, 04:56:50 PM
That's not a routine.

In fact, that's not even a fcuking warm up.


Hardcore baby.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Master Blaster on January 20, 2011, 05:07:03 PM
when i say bulk,, i do not mean pig bulk maybe we use the word with different meaning  ;),, but first few years you can have higher caloric surplus compared to later years,, after some years its waste as too much calories go to fat and not enough to muscle,,

i agree natural bodybuilder never should go over 14-15% ,, if real serious and obsessed or natural lean no over 12%

god, I wish I had known that years ago.   :'(
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 05:16:27 PM
god, I wish I had known that years ago.   :'(

yes, many make this mistake,, others make mistake of not eating enough,, so there is a balance,,

if hormonized then you can eat more because more calories to go muscle growth instead of fat compared to natural lifter,..
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Master Blaster on January 20, 2011, 05:20:40 PM
yes, many make this mistake,, others make mistake of not eating enough,, so there is a balance,,

if hormonized then you can eat more because more calories to go muscle growth instead of fat compared to natural lifter,..

I used to weigh myself every night, and if I didn't weigh a pound more than the day before I would have another meal and or shake  ::)

(http://www.east2westnutrition.com/1160-2676-large/champion-nutrition-super-heavyweight-gainer-1200.jpg)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: nolotil on January 20, 2011, 05:24:23 PM
I used to weigh myself every night, and if I didn't weigh a pound more than the day before I would have another meal and or shake  ::)

(http://www.east2westnutrition.com/1160-2676-large/champion-nutrition-super-heavyweight-gainer-1200.jpg)

this is what supplement company want you to do,, and also they want you to believe you must eat 6 time per day or you will shrink lol..it is total bs,,

Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 05:34:38 PM
Yeah, that 6 meals per day is complete and utter bullshit. On my lo cal days I will only eat 3 meals a day, and on my normal day I will eat 4 meals a day. And for kiwi and jamie, guess how much weight I use on my 1 work set for db tri ext and db concentration curls ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: ironneck on January 20, 2011, 05:37:48 PM
the hair is disgusting and an insult to my eyes
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 20, 2011, 05:48:51 PM
I call my dick my "fat arm"


GET IT........because my penis is like a "fat arm"

hahaahahha lol
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 20, 2011, 05:50:30 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=363512.0;attach=399011;image)

LMAO!!!!

This is a joke right? ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: kiwiol on January 20, 2011, 05:52:28 PM
Yeah, that 6 meals per day is complete and utter bullshit. On my lo cal days I will only eat 3 meals a day, and on my normal day I will eat 4 meals a day. And for kiwi and jamie, guess how much weight I use on my 1 work set for db tri ext and db concentration curls ;D

Weight is relative and doesn't matter, really. It's funny seeing that's all you do for arms, after discussing lifting and nutrition here endlessly for days.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 20, 2011, 05:56:47 PM
Weight is relative and doesn't matter, really. It's funny seeing that's all you do for arms, after discussing lifting and nutrition here endlessly for days.
dj123 is a fatpanda gimmick, that's why he always posts from his phone. ;)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: mass 04 on January 20, 2011, 05:59:34 PM

GET IT........because my penis is like a "fat arm"

hahaahahha lol
Because there is always a man's hand at the end of it?
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 20, 2011, 06:00:03 PM
dj123 is a fatpanda gimmick, that's why he always posts from his phone. ;)

it's pretty obvious


it's either that or dj123 is a huge retard
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: 225for70 on January 20, 2011, 06:01:39 PM
That's not a routine.

In fact, that's not even a fcuking warm up.

Kids these days want big muslces...However, they only want to do one set for fear of overtraining..
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: kiwiol on January 20, 2011, 06:02:03 PM
dj123 is a fatpanda gimmick, that's why he always posts from his phone. ;)

Damn! Is that true, dj?


Because there is always a man's hand at the end of it?

 ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 20, 2011, 06:02:33 PM
Because there is always a man's hand at the end of it?

YES....i mean, no.......I mean, FUCK
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 20, 2011, 06:26:43 PM
No kiwi, I ain't no gimmick man, but I'll be sure and shave my arms for the next pics to give these fellas some jerk off material, and who knows, I may even get a deep dark tan to make it even more exciting for them :-* Anyways, I suppose that I should just let my results speak for themselves. Remember, the 1st phase is to get lean, and the second phase is to add size while staying lean. There is a change that I may gain muscle at the same time as I get leaner, but I ain't so sure about that one, so only time will tell (in about 4 weeks or so)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: The Showstoppa on January 20, 2011, 07:08:05 PM
Brutal pipe cleaners.




Dom out!


haha, Dom bringing the pain !!!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dyslexic on January 20, 2011, 08:08:27 PM
Got rid of your fat arm and your excess pussy hair...


Happy now?

(http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x263/timeamajorova/fatarm.jpg)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dogbowl on January 20, 2011, 08:43:07 PM
Hit sub-7 1st and then post update pics (at that point, I imagine that my arm will look softer and flater)

You mean sub 7% bodyfat?  I doubt very much that you'll look softer or flatter.  Lowering your bodyfat should improve your bicep peak, and you'll see much better definition, including the split in your bicep (possibly), not to mention veins.  Those are the things that make an upper arm impressive, not size alone.

I see plenty of old women with 17 inch arms,  but they are that size because of the extra fat, not because they have peaks and veins like arnie.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Natural Man on January 20, 2011, 08:59:24 PM
allright fellas here it is, and my goals are to add as much detail, seperation, and density as possible.

poor gf/wife if you have one.

dude it's 2011 ffs...
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 03:42:25 AM
Yeah dogbowl, I talking about sub-7 percent bodyfat, and the reason I think that I'll be softer and flatter is because I will be carb and calorie depleted during the 1st phase of this project. There's is one thing that I'm not sure of, and that is will I actually gain lean muscle tissue on my way to sub-7? Well, that question will be answered within 6 weeks or so.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 21, 2011, 04:15:59 AM
I am opening the books again, speaking of arms  :D

BUT....things have changed. everyone must re-qualify with a new picture of their arm, we are starting from ground zero and the requirements are tougher.

No more ..."Hey, your arm is OK and i think you're cool....so you are in".

Your arm must be at LEAST 16 inches and have balance and muscularity.

I will be posting new pics of my arms shortly....I have been really sick for the last two weeks and i have lost 14 LBS.  :P

Once i get back in the swing and my lost muscle comes back I'll take them.........and then IT'S ON BITCHES
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: wes on January 21, 2011, 04:24:07 AM
DJ,here are some points for you to implememt inyto your training:

1.- Do more volume
2.- Eat clean,6 x a day...the calorie is a calorie shit is clearly not working
3.- To hell with Arthur Jones
4.- Join a real gym...no at home bodyweight exercises
5.- Forget measurements and bodyweight.....go by the mirror to see progress or lack thereof
6.- Train your ass off,and do cardio (do not run)

Arms look OK,but they will get much much better as will your whole physique after adding my recommendations.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:35:36 AM
Why not running wes? I'm not gonna ever run more than 20 min tops, ever! In fact, I will mainly stick to 10 to 15 min hard AT runs. It seems that I haven't made myself so clear with my training history, so I will try to clarify it now. First of all, I haven't trained hard and consistantly for over 8 years. Secondly, I NEVER, EVER HAVE TRAINED MY LEGS HARD AND CONSISTANTLY, EVER. Third, I have to humble myself here, and say that "diet" is somewhat important. So now I will follow an ok "diet" with mainly eggs, chicken breasts, beef and milk (sorry Falcon, maybe you can offer some scarifices for my soul). But, I just won't train legs hard and consistantly, the hardest part of my leg workout will be dumbell stiff-legged deads. I know that I'm gonna catch lots of hatorade for this, but I want a certain look. Nicely devolped arms, a very nice V-shaped back, a tiny wasp waist, and a tight round firm ass for the ladies 8) So for the ass it will be the SLD's and for the V shaped back it will be weighted wide grip chin
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Marty Champions on January 21, 2011, 05:36:44 AM
post a full physique shot lets see this amazing body
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: spinnis on January 21, 2011, 05:37:03 AM
I will be posting new pics of my arms shortly....I have been really sick for the last two weeks and i have lost 14 LBS.  :P

Once i get back in the swing and my lost muscle comes back I'll take them.........and then IT'S ON BITCHES

aka cycle ran out faster then expected and new delivery is due within 2 weeks  ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 05:40:52 AM
I will post a back double bi AFTER the transformation is completed Falcon. I estimate this to be on May 1st.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 21, 2011, 06:11:21 AM
aka cycle ran out faster then expected and new delivery is due within 2 weeks  ;D

Dude....you have no idea,  I was shitting out every single thing I ate faster than Brock Lesnar running away from an opponent. really bad stomach virus
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: newmom on January 21, 2011, 06:13:40 AM
Dude....you have no idea,  I was shitting out every single thing I ate faster than Brock Lesnar running away from an opponent. really bad stomach virus

hope you feel better. Does this mean a new don arm thread ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Palpatine Q on January 21, 2011, 06:17:21 AM
hope you feel better. Does this mean a new don arm thread ;D

Yep.......new rules too.

new pic required for EVERYONE......i don't care what your arms looked like 6 years ago
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: JP_RC on January 21, 2011, 06:21:14 AM
Why not running wes? I'm not gonna ever run more than 20 min tops, ever! In fact, I will mainly stick to 10 to 15 min hard AT runs. It seems that I haven't made myself so clear with my training history, so I will try to clarify it now. First of all, I haven't trained hard and consistantly for over 8 years. Secondly, I NEVER, EVER HAVE TRAINED MY LEGS HARD AND CONSISTANTLY, EVER. Third, I have to humble myself here, and say that "diet" is somewhat important. So now I will follow an ok "diet" with mainly eggs, chicken breasts, beef and milk (sorry Falcon, maybe you can offer some scarifices for my soul). But, I just won't train legs hard and consistantly, the hardest part of my leg workout will be dumbell stiff-legged deads. I know that I'm gonna catch lots of hatorade for this, but I want a certain look. Nicely devolped arms, a very nice V-shaped back, a tiny wasp waist, and a tight round firm ass for the ladies 8) So for the ass it will be the SLD's and for the V shaped back it will be weighted wide grip chin

Wes is actually giving you some pretty good advice dj, except for the eating 6x a day..that is not needed in my opinion.
But training wise you should try what he says.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: newmom on January 21, 2011, 06:26:11 AM
Yep.......new rules too.

new pic required for EVERYONE......i don't care what your arms looked like 6 years ago

excellent
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Marty Champions on January 21, 2011, 06:36:27 AM
I will post a back double bi AFTER the transformation is completed Falcon. I estimate this to be on May 1st.

good luck man

remember i have 16 years of weightlifting experience

never EVER diet, but DO cut out animal fat, increase nut/walnut/pecan fat and plenty of fruitjuices

remember cutting carbs/calories means you will have less energy, headaches from too low of glucose, wich means the less you eat the less you can do, the less full your musles are and less and less recovery
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 06:43:02 AM
Yeah JP_RC, there is something to wes' post, but I'm gonna stick with the Jones style training and we will see what happens. And as far as diet, I got a preliminary plan mapped out. I'm gonna eat roughly 1500 cals per day, with at least 100 carb grams a day and 100 protein grams a day, but I won't go over 1500 cals a day. Also, I will eat 3 or 4 times a day, and I will most likely have one cheat day per week. My whole training idea is this: greater and greater training loads equal bigger and bigger muscles. And in my humble opinion HIT is the best way to enable oneself to train with greater and greater training loads. I will make one prediction here, and that prediction is that I WILL gain muscle while losing fat during this 1st phase.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: devilsmile on January 21, 2011, 07:05:52 AM
Yep.......new rules too.

new pic required for EVERYONE......i don't care what your arms looked like 6 years weeks ago

I'll post pics too  8)

but my ac tendon has been broken for 2 years, haven't slept a minute for 3 months, have trained half assed for 2 months and I'm just a plain mess, definetely not my best showing... but I'lll post a pic... oh and stomac virus too, and some rare case of flesh eating virus...

 ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: CalvinH on January 21, 2011, 07:08:47 AM
Dude....you have no idea,  I was shitting out every single thing I ate faster than Brock Lesnar running away from an opponent. really bad stomach virus



Been there,done that :(
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 21, 2011, 08:32:11 AM
I'll post pics too  8)

but my ac tendon has been broken for 2 years, haven't slept a minute for 3 months, have trained half assed for 2 months and I'm just a plain mess, definetely not my best showing... but I'lll post a pic... oh and stomac virus too, and some rare case of flesh eating virus...

 ;D
No need to start making excuses before hand. ::)


You don't meet the 16'' requirement to post in the Don thread anyways.


Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: devilsmile on January 21, 2011, 11:21:44 AM
No need to start making excuses before hand. ::)


You don't meet the 16'' requirement to post in the Don thread anyways.


Dom out!

you really are literally as brain damaged as you look like, I was making a joke, sheesh.

lol, "dom out", stop trying so hard, noob.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnnynoname on January 21, 2011, 11:24:57 AM
Yeah JP_RC, there is something to wes' post, but I'm gonna stick with the Jones style training and we will see what happens. And as far as diet, I got a preliminary plan mapped out. I'm gonna eat roughly 1500 cals per day, with at least 100 carb grams a day and 100 protein grams a day, but I won't go over 1500 cals a day. Also, I will eat 3 or 4 times a day, and I will most likely have one cheat day per week. My whole training idea is this: greater and greater training loads equal bigger and bigger muscles. And in my humble opinion HIT is the best way to enable oneself to train with greater and greater training loads. I will make one prediction here, and that prediction is that I WILL gain muscle while losing fat during this 1st phase.

look dude, stfu and take everyone's advice

you start a thread obviously looking for advice and some knowledgeable and experienced trainers are giving you some but you always comeback stating some shit about arthur jones or eating twinkies

it's like you are either a retard, a troll or some sort of retarded european
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: che on January 21, 2011, 11:37:13 AM
look dude, stfu and take everyone's advice

you start a thread obviously looking for advice and some knowledgeable and experienced trainers are giving you some but you always comeback stating some shit about arthur jones or eating twinkies

it's like you are either a retard, a troll or some sort of retarded european
:D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 11:44:25 AM
Where did I say that I was seeking others opinions no name? The whole point of this thread is to show exactly what I can do, and to be a testimony to my training ideas/theroies. I know that you think that you know it all, but why don't you just STFU and let me show what I can do. Listen, just because you don't like my training ideas/theroies doesn't mean that others feel the same, and that's part of why I'm doing this, to show those who are interested what can or can't be done. So if you think I'm retarded then I challange you to pit your wonderful training expertise against mine and let's see who comes out on top. Whatta ya say dicksmack?
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Bam-bam on January 21, 2011, 12:15:46 PM
Oh brother, fatpanda!!!!

(http://mi9.com/uploads/fantasy/922/fat-panda_422_13340.jpg)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: tbombz on January 21, 2011, 12:34:29 PM
train as heavy as you can while keeping good form. focus on geting stronger every workout. hit all rep ranges. clean diet with "cheat meals" thrown in occasionally. 45 mins cardio at least 5 times per week. thatll get you shredded and detailed. the key is to hold onto muscle while removing bodyfat. heavy lifting=hold onto muscle. cardio=strips the fat. diet=keeps everything going smoothly.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 21, 2011, 03:43:06 PM
train as heavy as you can while keeping good form. focus on geting stronger every workout. hit all rep ranges. clean diet with "cheat meals" thrown in occasionally. 45 mins cardio at least 5 times per week. thatll get you shredded and detailed. the key is to hold onto muscle while removing bodyfat. heavy lifting=hold onto muscle. cardio=strips the fat. diet=keeps everything going smoothly.
Don't forget the most important part.


All the anabolics you can buy online with your parents credit card.



Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: kiwiol on January 21, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
Don't forget the most important part.


All the anabolics you can buy online with your parents credit card.



Dom out!

Careful, stud - tbombz's dad rode with the HA
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Dominator285 on January 21, 2011, 03:58:41 PM
Careful, stud - tbombz's dad rode with the HA
No doubt he rode bitch.



Dom out!
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 21, 2011, 04:28:58 PM
DJ,here are some points for you to implememt inyto your training:

1.- Do more volume
2.- Eat clean,6 x a day...the calorie is a calorie shit is clearly not working
3.- To hell with Arthur Jones
4.- Join a real gym...no at home bodyweight exercises
5.- Forget measurements and bodyweight.....go by the mirror to see progress or lack thereof
6.- Train your ass off,and do cardio (do not run)

Arms look OK,but they will get much much better as will your whole physique after adding my recommendations.

 >:(
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 21, 2011, 04:31:25 PM
look dude, stfu and take everyone's advice

you start a thread obviously looking for advice and some knowledgeable and experienced trainers are giving you some but you always comeback stating some shit about arthur jones or eating twinkies

it's like you are either a retard, a troll or some sort of retarded european

 >:(
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 21, 2011, 04:32:34 PM
Careful, stud - tbombz's dad rode with the HA
hahaha I forget about that one. ;D
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: pellius on January 21, 2011, 04:32:59 PM
train as heavy as you can while keeping good form. focus on geting stronger every workout. hit all rep ranges. clean diet with "cheat meals" thrown in occasionally. 45 mins cardio at least 5 times per week. thatll get you shredded and detailed. the key is to hold onto muscle while removing bodyfat. heavy lifting=hold onto muscle. cardio=strips the fat. diet=keeps everything going smoothly.

Sounds great. Maybe you should try that.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: tbombz on January 21, 2011, 04:35:12 PM
Sounds great. Maybe you should try that.
[/quote :o  i like getting bigger so much that i wont take the time to cut down all the way.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 04:38:37 PM
That's spot on advice tbombz, and that is basically almost exactly what I will do except for the cardio part, instead of doing 45 min bouts of cardio, I will stick with 15 to 20 min hard (AT) bouts. I am supremely confident with my training approach, but I've really gotta admit that I'm kinda lost with the diet part, and in fact, I would take advice as far as diet is concerned, but it's such a heated and emotional topic, so I think that I just better try and figure it out for myself lol
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 21, 2011, 04:41:03 PM
That's spot on advice tbombz, and that is basically almost exactly what I will do except for the cardio part, instead of doing 45 min bouts of cardio, I will stick with 15 to 20 min hard (AT) bouts. I am supremely confident with my training approach, but I've really gotta admit that I'm kinda lost with the diet part, and in fact, I would take advice as far as diet is concerned, but it's such a heated and emotional topic, so I think that I just better try and figure it out for myself lol
Aren't those your pics in this thread? Diet is the least of your issues.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dj181 on January 21, 2011, 04:46:41 PM
Yeah pellius, tbombz training advice is spot fucking on! In fact, I'm gonna try and gain strength while dieting, and not just hold on to my current strength levels. Maybe I can ask just 1 question about diet... Do I really need 1 gram per pound of bodyweight? Remember, I want to keep my cals under 1500 daily, and if I take 1 gram per pound of bodyweight I don't have much calories left for fat and carbs.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: dogbowl on January 21, 2011, 04:52:17 PM
Naturals shoulder NEVER bulk EVER

QFT

(http://startingstrength.com/images/100301_front.jpg)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: Jaime on January 21, 2011, 05:05:38 PM
Sounds great. Maybe you should try that.

 :D

He could do 25 minutes of intense cardio instead, less catabolic.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnny1 on January 21, 2011, 05:22:52 PM
Dj forget about  all the shit you read on the internetz  ,A.Jones  ,low volume , High rep ,cal is a cal  ........................ .etc

Just lift heavy ,eat right and  rest (consistently )
Yes Correct, Forget all the crap thats out there, train your ass off, eat right and clean and rest.
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 21, 2011, 05:25:23 PM
Yes Correct, Forget all the crap thats out there, train your ass off, eat right and clean and rest.
Great insight "johnny1". ::)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: johnny1 on January 21, 2011, 05:27:41 PM
Great insight "johnny1". ::)
Your welcome "chaos" ::)
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: chaos on January 21, 2011, 05:31:25 PM
Your welcome "chaos" ::)
You're a regular fountain of knowledge.........
Title: Re: my fat arm
Post by: tbombz on January 21, 2011, 07:11:56 PM
Yeah pellius, tbombz training advice is spot fucking on! In fact, I'm gonna try and gain strength while dieting, and not just hold on to my current strength levels. Maybe I can ask just 1 question about diet... Do I really need 1 gram per pound of bodyweight? Remember, I want to keep my cals under 1500 daily, and if I take 1 gram per pound of bodyweight I don't have much calories left for fat and carbs.
eat 50 grams of protein at each meal. eat every 4-5 hours. probably need a little bit of fats to go along with your protein in order to get good digestion/assimilation especiqally since your low on carbs and total calories. save carbs for before/after your heavy workouts. drink lots of water and eat raw vegetables with each meal.