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Title: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 12:12:04 AM
competed this last thursday... weight after dehydrating my ass was 87.5 kg (around 193 lbs)... i'm the biggest and leanest i've ever been in a contest and i didn't even prep for it (the only thing i did was take a diuretic on the day of the show)...
some of the folks who read my previous posts know i just ate 3 meals a day for the past 18 weeks... a little less than 1 gr per lb of protein... and cals went down from less than 2000 cals (around 1800) from the start down to 1300 cals or so starting 3 or 4 weeks ago...
my meals the last 3 weeks were
breakfast = 60 grams of whey with 300 ml milk
lunch= 250 grams lean ground beef made into 2 patties, 2 white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, ketchup
dinner= same as breakfast

sometimes if i stay up late til 11 or 12 and get really hungry, i'd eat another meal of 2 to 3 eggs with some cheese and a couple of slices of toast... as always, wednesday night up until friday night i eat whatever the hell i want in whatever quantities (usually i only eat til i'm half or 3/4 full, then i wait a couple of hours and eat again)...

anyway... last couple of weeks i switched to some low volume training cuz the whole high volume thing + cardio was taking too much of my time... so it was 30 minutes of low volume hitting each muscle with 4 sets and hitting it twice every week with 60 minutes of cardio walking 3 mph at 15% incline...

and here are the results  ;D

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-116.jpg)

after weigh in, i had to make sure no schmoes came along and stole my penis

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-122.jpg)

My friend and i decided to film a mini documentary about bodybuilding in saudi arabia... i got a lot of interviews with competitors and bodybuilders, and here are some pics of one of the top bodybuilders here, Qasim Laith

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-141.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-145.jpg)

it's not bodybuilding if you don't have a thumbs up pose ready!

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-173.jpg)

years upon years of training, dieting, and using drugs the way that's been spewed on the net and by trainers and shit... i've never been this lean at this weight... hell, i've never been this lean ever. it's the first time i get rid of my love handles

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-210.jpg)

schmoes having a field day here

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-240.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-246.jpg)

this is Yahya... one of the top competitors in the 80 kg category

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-249.jpg)

he got first place in the 80 kg class

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-364.jpg)

"WHERE'S MY FUDGE@!!!!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-279.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-294.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-296.jpg)

they always tell you never to go into a dark alley alone... you never know when a bald, yellow toothed arab would show up and challenge you to a pose down!

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-300.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-305.jpg)

more pics

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-319.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-322.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-324.jpg)

after that, i decided to whore myself out to the schmoes to be able to afford dinner, and some industrial strength detergent to wash this fucking dream tan shit off

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-332.jpg)

"where's my fucking fudge, bitches!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-375.jpg)

"HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-384.jpg)

First place in the 90 kg class

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-386.jpg)

it feels good to blow out a fart after a contest

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-387.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-388.jpg)


last one

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-391.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Meso_z on March 05, 2011, 12:23:10 AM
Damn ! good job there..!

as for aas... what did you use?

thanks.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 12:25:23 AM
last 4 weeks was 1 gram of test (cidos) and 400 mg tren enanthate...
fat burners were at 180 mcg T3, 240 mcg clen, 90 mg ephedrine...

oh, and 1.25 mg letro sat, mon, and wed.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Meso_z on March 05, 2011, 12:26:44 AM
last 4 weeks was 1 gram of test (cidos) and 400 mg tren enanthate...
fat burners were at 180 mcg T3, 240 mcg clen, 90 mg ephedrine...

oh, and 1.25 mg letro sat, mon, and wed.
for how many weeks you used letro?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Tito24 on March 05, 2011, 12:27:31 AM
(http://www.dutchbodybuilding.com/gallery/data/813/Jason_Arntz_035.jpg)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 12:34:29 AM
for how many weeks you used letro?

i've been on letro for... 9 weeks now i think?  ???
i was using it at 1.25 mg twice a week, and when i started the tren E i started taking it 3 times a week. tren and deca give me tits and letro is the only thing that stops them.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: The True Adonis on March 05, 2011, 12:35:39 AM
competed this last thursday... weight after dehydrating my ass was 87.5 kg (around 193 lbs)... i'm the biggest and leanest i've ever been in a contest and i didn't even prep for it (the only thing i did was take a diuretic on the day of the show)...
some of the folks who read my previous posts know i just ate 3 meals a day for the past 18 weeks... a little less than 1 gr per lb of protein... and cals went down from less than 2000 cals (around 1800) from the start down to 1300 cals or so starting 3 or 4 weeks ago...
my meals the last 3 weeks were
breakfast = 60 grams of whey with 300 ml milk
lunch= 250 grams lean ground beef made into 2 patties, 2 white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, ketchup
dinner= same as breakfast

sometimes if i stay up late til 11 or 12 and get really hungry, i'd eat another meal of 2 to 3 eggs with some cheese and a couple of slices of toast... as always, wednesday night up until friday night i eat whatever the hell i want in whatever quantities (usually i only eat til i'm half or 3/4 full, then i wait a couple of hours and eat again)...

anyway... last couple of weeks i switched to some low volume training cuz the whole high volume thing + cardio was taking too much of my time... so it was 30 minutes of low volume hitting each muscle with 4 sets and hitting it twice every week with 60 minutes of cardio walking 3 mph at 15% incline...

and here are the results  ;D

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-116.jpg)

after weigh in, i had to make sure no schmoes came along and stole my penis

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-122.jpg)

My friend and i decided to film a mini documentary about bodybuilding in saudi arabia... i got a lot of interviews with competitors and bodybuilders, and here are some pics of one of the top bodybuilders here, Qasim Laith

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-141.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-145.jpg)

it's not bodybuilding if you don't have a thumbs up pose ready!

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-173.jpg)

years upon years of training, dieting, and using drugs the way that's been spewed on the net and by trainers and shit... i've never been this lean at this weight... hell, i've never been this lean ever. it's the first time i get rid of my love handles

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-210.jpg)

schmoes having a field day here

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-240.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-246.jpg)

this is Yahya... one of the top competitors in the 80 kg category

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-249.jpg)

he got first place in the 80 kg class

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-364.jpg)

"WHERE'S MY FUDGE@!!!!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-279.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-294.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-296.jpg)

they always tell you never to go into a dark alley alone... you never know when a bald, yellow toothed arab would show up and challenge you to a pose down!

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-300.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-305.jpg)

more pics

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-319.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-322.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-324.jpg)

after that, i decided to whore myself out to the schmoes to be able to afford dinner, and some industrial strength detergent to wash this fucking dream tan shit off

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-332.jpg)

"where's my fucking fudge, bitches!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-375.jpg)

"HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!!"

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-384.jpg)

First place in the 90 kg class

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-386.jpg)

it feels good to blow out a fart after a contest

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-387.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-388.jpg)


last one

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-391.jpg)
You should have listened to me a long time ago.  Here is another tip, when you ate 2000-1300 calories on your "diet" days, you can eat whatever you want and it does not have to be anything special or rigid in any way.  Just eat whatever you like and by default you will cover all of your needs.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 12:51:49 AM
i've been on letro for... 9 weeks now i think?  ???
i was using it at 1.25 mg twice a week, and when i started the tren E i started taking it 3 times a week. tren and deca give me tits and letro is the only thing that stops them.

you coudl come much better condition from back,,neve rthe less good job,,next time around prop insted of enantat,,also less letro,,and also tren ace insted of enantat,,what you need do it,,

testosterona trenbolona masterona every single day ,,then only then! if needed letrozola and at the edn smart use of duretic,,you probably win the over all ,,

again like told you many times ,,there is no bodybuild diet,,it is only to get to 4% ,,pictures presented are not 4% but are 5-6% closer to 6which is good enough,,it would be 5% if follwo what i say and 5% in this level will win the over all

gh15 approved
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 01:10:39 AM
You should have listened to me a long time ago.  Here is another tip, when you ate 2000-1300 calories on your "diet" days, you can eat whatever you want and it does not have to be anything special or rigid in any way.  Just eat whatever you like and by default you will cover all of your needs.

It's extremely hard for me to control myself or put a grocery list if i don't have quantities and certain food in mind to eat.
I really don't have an appetite whatsoever, but when it comes to sweets, i can eat 3000 cals in one sitting and stuff myself silly unless someone pulls a gun up to my head and says "FUCKING STOP IT!"... so this diet is a just a way to control my cals...

i DO believe that you need a certain amount of protein... close to 1 gr per lb is MORE THAN enough... plus i'm very sensitive to carbs... i look like shit when i eat over 150-200 gr of carbs and i feel like shit.

so, burgers and protein shakes is what i like to eat :) and that's what i did...

but i wouldn't go around eating ice cream with nutella and peanut butter... that'll just ruin my whole day and fuck up my stomach... but it'll taste damn good going down the hatch.......... shit that sounded gay!  ???


you coudl come much better condition from back,,neve rthe less good job,,next time around prop insted of enantat,,also less letro,,and also tren ace insted of enantat,,what you need do it,,

testosterona trenbolona masterona every single day ,,then only then! if needed letrozola and at the edn smart use of duretic,,you probably win the over all ,,

again like told you many times ,,there is no bodybuild diet,,it is only to get to 4% ,,pictures presented are not 4% but are 5-6% closer to 6which is good enough,,it would be 5% if follwo what i say and 5% in this level will win the over all

gh15 approved

seriously... if i had money, i'd be on Equipona, masterona, trenbologna, and GHona at high doses for 12-16 weeks... but i'm as broke as shit at the moment and all i had to use was the test that was left over, and i was chasing people around who owed me money to pay me back with gear... that's why i had the tren E and letro... the only thing i paid for was the fat burners... I was on acetate a couple of months ago (at much lower doses) and it was the shit!... Tren E at 400 gave me the same hardening effects as 150-225 mg of tren a but with a ton of sides... I hate it! but it was the only thing i had to use. I had some winny, but i'm saving it with the dbol for next week to go on the last 4 weeks of my cycle this year and just inject and swallow whatever the hell i have left in my cabinet and use some slin with that to fill out a bit and grow without gaining much fat in these next couple of weeks.

never took competitions seriously and never will since they are basically about who uses more harsh drugs and has better genetics... i'd rather pay off all my debt right then if i have extra cash where it's either i wipe my ass with it or buy some drugs, i'd probably buy the drugs ;D

but thanks for the advice! :)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 05, 2011, 01:19:43 AM
Good work there!!
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 01:41:17 AM
dont get me wrong my friend,,you have one of best physiqe out of this boarding amatueres there is no doubt about it,,for 190lb this is great physiqe,,just litle more tune up and you win overall but never the less one of better physiqes i see on board hre from amatuers

gh15 approved
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 01:47:25 AM
dont get me wrong my friend,,you have one of best physiqe out of this boarding amatueres there is no doubt about it,,for 190lb this is great physiqe,,just litle more tune up and you win overall but never the less one of better physiqes i see on board hre from amatuers

gh15 approved

I will print this out... take it to the plaque shop and make a huge plaque out of it and hang it outside my front door.

 ;D ;D ;D

that means a lot to me... fella  ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: breakmore on March 05, 2011, 01:58:21 AM
Very nice.
So did you win  any cash, or was just a shiny medal?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: dyslexic on March 05, 2011, 02:08:37 AM
I've been preaching the exact same thing since my incession.


1 gram (or less)- eat what you want - don't over do it.


I hate food. I hate eating, but I can eat a bag of candy- just like a kid.


I'm stay right around 10% regardless. I can take months off from the gym too. Surely you will notice the same thing as you get older. Sure, you ain't shredded, but you are in fantastic shape and you have great genetics. Every thing else just "accents" that fact.


Protein sells bodybuilding mags, that's about it.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Team Diver on March 05, 2011, 02:18:56 AM
You should have listened to me a long time ago.  Here is another tip, when you ate 2000-1300 calories on your "diet" days, you can eat whatever you want and it does not have to be anything special or rigid in any way.  Just eat whatever you like and by default you will cover all of your needs.

I eat cca. 1200-1500 cals/day, but it much easier to do this by eating 3*30g brown rice, 2*40g oatmeal etc. through the day, than eating the same amount of calories from some 1-2 McDonalds sandwich or 1 pizza/day. So even if a "caloire is a calorie", you feel you eat more, if you exclude simple carbs and bad fats.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Stavios on March 05, 2011, 02:20:48 AM
haha good job bro !!!

Like God15 said, you could have been much tighter from the back and quads also, but very good physique !!
thick back !!
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 05, 2011, 02:30:53 AM
Good stuff Buselmo, glad you placed first, how much notice did you have for this contest?

I agree with gh15 you have a great physique and a lot of potential (no homo)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 02:51:41 AM
Very nice.
So did you win  any cash, or was just a shiny medal?

cash??? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!
since when did bodybuilding ever have cash in it? and if it did, most of the times it's "i won $500! ... after spending $3000 on prep" LOL!

the medal is made of aluminum foil with gold spray paint on it... LOL... so even that's worthless!

I've been preaching the exact same thing since my incession.


1 gram (or less)- eat what you want - don't over do it.


I hate food. I hate eating, but I can eat a bag of candy- just like a kid.


I'm stay right around 10% regardless. I can take months off from the gym too. Surely you will notice the same thing as you get older. Sure, you ain't shredded, but you are in fantastic shape and you have great genetics. Every thing else just "accents" that fact.


Protein sells bodybuilding mags, that's about it.

If i keep on working out (without the gear) and starve myself by eating 1 big junk meal a day, i'd still look the same but smaller... my problem is that without the gear, i just see very little return on going to the gym... then life gets in the way and i stop going and i turn into this skinny fat blob! ... i posted pics of what i looked like 18 weeks ago, when i took a 4.5 month lay off.... not pretty...  :-X

haha good job bro !!!

Like God15 said, you could have been much tighter from the back and quads also, but very good physique !!
thick back !!

I usually have a 36 inch waist with kinda of a flat stomach... all the fat goes to my back and love handles... i've practically given up on trying to lose the love handles... but persistance and almost giving yourself a heart attack with all the thermos (LOL!) took care of it this time ;D... still, i'll never get a dry, hard, and shredded back unless i nearly kill myself... even then, second day it'll fill up with water and look like shit!  :D

Good stuff Buselmo, glad you placed first, how much notice did you have for this contest?

I agree with gh15 you have a great physique and a lot of potential (no homo)

a week... LOL!
wednesday, feb 23rd... i got a call from the team coach saying they lifted the ban off my ass because they fired the head of the sports federation, and they gave us a gift due to the king returning from his operation... the coach said i have 8 days to prepare... i said fuck it, i'm ready :)

and thanks for the kind words bro
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 05, 2011, 03:25:01 AM


i DO believe that you need a certain amount of protein... close to 1 gr per lb is MORE THAN enough... plus i'm very sensitive to carbs... i look like shit when i eat over 150-200 gr of carbs and i feel like shit.



I totally agree with this. Many carbs are useless and make you feel bloated and sluggish and 1 gram per pound of protein is easily enough.

Look great bro!
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: smoothasf on March 05, 2011, 04:06:04 AM
How much hgh were you taking?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: outby43 on March 05, 2011, 04:11:17 AM
nice job.  You certainly have a Getbig sense of humor with your captions for the pics.. ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 04:13:44 AM
How much hgh were you taking?

no GH this year  :'( :'( :'( ... couldn't afford it. we can't order any GH from china (customs are worse than australia... even though it's legal, you can't bring any powders or liquids or supplements in without approval from the ministry of health... which is basically impossible)... and 4 iu of GH costs a minimum of $12... so, no moneyz  :'(

If i took GH it wouldn't have taken me 18 weeks to get that lean starting out like this
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: TrueGrit on March 05, 2011, 04:18:22 AM
Looking good Bobs.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 05, 2011, 04:20:11 AM
lol you are a funny dude. why where you banned?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 04:23:41 AM
lol you are a funny dude. why where you banned?

last year we all signed up to compete in this same contest (eastern province championship)... on the day of the contest, anti doping came and said they will do random testing. the judges were like "fuck!"... and the competitors were like "uber fuck!"...
so the 65 kg guys decided not to go on stage... the judges said "if 65 kg competitors don't step on stage in 5 minutes, the contest is cancelled!" which is what they wanted to get rid of these guys... needless to say they cancelled the contest... a couple of weeks later, the news paper had the names of everyone who signed up to compete and said that they "fled the scene when asked to be tested for steroids" and we all had a 2 year ban on our asses for that.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: dj181 on March 05, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
Did you notice any difference in your appearance as the result of lowered volume training?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 05:08:42 AM
Did you notice any difference in your appearance as the result of lowered volume training?

less vascularity... and there were those "little muscles" like the brachialis and such that weren't as defined or popping out. other than that, there was no major difference. but i can attest to higher volume burning a shit ton more calories.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: dj181 on March 05, 2011, 05:15:12 AM
So would you say that the higher volume training gives you a more refined and polished look?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: chaos on March 05, 2011, 07:55:23 AM
How did you get a "Texas" shirt over in BumFuckEgypt?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: chris-a on March 05, 2011, 09:37:07 AM
props for walking the walk buselmo, more than most of us on here will ever do, and congrats on your placing too...


funny dude as well  8)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: dyslexic on March 05, 2011, 09:41:06 AM
no GH this year  :'( :'( :'( ... couldn't afford it. we can't order any GH from china (customs are worse than australia... even though it's legal, you can't bring any powders or liquids or supplements in without approval from the ministry of health... which is basically impossible)... and 4 iu of GH costs a minimum of $12... so, no moneyz  :'(

If i took GH it wouldn't have taken me 18 weeks to get that lean starting out like this

Still looking good in the "before" pics. I wouldn't have asked about HGH. It's pretty obvious you were NOT using it. 18 weeks is nothing when it comes to getting into that kind of shape.

Many people take a lifetime to even come 1/2 as close to being "in shape" - and it aint because they aren't trying. Part of it is always going to be the "return" you speak of. It's too bad because you can't tell an average Joe that at some point he's going to need "assistance"
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: ksa_triceps on March 05, 2011, 09:49:37 AM
Looking good bro mashallah. I'm gonna drive someday to the East and meet your source for some goodies  ;D



Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: magicuser on March 05, 2011, 11:47:18 AM
competed this last thursday... weight after dehydrating my ass was 87.5 kg (around 193 lbs)... i'm the biggest and leanest i've ever been in a contest and i didn't even prep for it (the only thing i did was take a diuretic on the day of the show)...
some of the folks who read my previous posts know i just ate 3 meals a day for the past 18 weeks... a little less than 1 gr per lb of protein... and cals went down from less than 2000 cals (around 1800) from the start down to 1300 cals or so starting 3 or 4 weeks ago...
my meals the last 3 weeks were
breakfast = 60 grams of whey with 300 ml milk
lunch= 250 grams lean ground beef made into 2 patties, 2 white bread buns, 2 slices fat free cheese, ketchup
dinner= same as breakfast

sometimes if i stay up late til 11 or 12 and get really hungry, i'd eat another meal of 2 to 3 eggs with some cheese and a couple of slices of toast... as always, wednesday night up until friday night i eat whatever the hell i want in whatever quantities (usually i only eat til i'm half or 3/4 full, then i wait a couple of hours and eat again)...

anyway... last couple of weeks i switched to some low volume training cuz the whole high volume thing + cardio was taking too much of my time... so it was 30 minutes of low volume hitting each muscle with 4 sets and hitting it twice every week with 60 minutes of cardio walking 3 mph at 15% incline...

and here are the results  ;D

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-116.jpg)

after weigh in, i had to make sure no schmoes came along and stole my penis

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-122.jpg)

My friend and i decided to film a mini documentary about bodybuilding in saudi arabia... i got a lot of interviews with competitors and bodybuilders, and here are some pics of one of the top bodybuilders here, Qasim Laith

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-141.jpg)

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-145.jpg)

it's not bodybuilding if you don't have a thumbs up pose ready!

(http://7adeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/pic-173.jpg)

years upon years of training, dieting, and using drugs the way that's been spewed on the net and by trainers and shit... i've never been this lean at this weight... hell, i've never been this lean ever. it's the first time i get rid of my love handles

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schmoes having a field day here

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this is Yahya... one of the top competitors in the 80 kg category

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he got first place in the 80 kg class

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"WHERE'S MY FUDGE@!!!!!!"

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they always tell you never to go into a dark alley alone... you never know when a bald, yellow toothed arab would show up and challenge you to a pose down!

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more pics

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after that, i decided to whore myself out to the schmoes to be able to afford dinner, and some industrial strength detergent to wash this fucking dream tan shit off

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"where's my fucking fudge, bitches!!!"

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"HEIL MEIN FUHRER!!!"

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First place in the 90 kg class

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it feels good to blow out a fart after a contest

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last one

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juice beat nutrition every times, ask mike mentz n arnold
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Post by: lesaucer on March 05, 2011, 11:55:33 AM
you are proud of not dieting and looking like this?  epic same legs and glutes condition as a baby...
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Post by: vonraider on March 05, 2011, 04:19:08 PM
Hey, he did win his class!
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Post by: tbombz on March 05, 2011, 06:23:47 PM
looking good, you got some good genetics man, start training seriously and stay on teh juice for an extended period of time and youll be a monster.
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Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on March 05, 2011, 06:39:31 PM
good job
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Post by: DK II on March 05, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
you are proud of not dieting and looking like this?  epic same legs and glutes condition as a baby...

Have you seen the tattoo on his back??  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Obviously he is proud, and he can be. He didn't even diet and won his class.
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 06:40:14 PM
looking good, you got some good genetics man, start training seriously and stay on teh juice for an extended period of time and youll be a monster.

lol,,he train bery seriously ,,you kilin me friends,, this is not some wanna be bodybuild this is a bodybuilr,,what do you mean train seriosuly ,,he been in it for many years,,actualy his genetic is average at best,,it is the ability of him to train and take what he need that got him to winner circle,,oen of the best amatuers on the getbig board,,need more torse size and leg size but aside from that he is on point,,

gh15 approved
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Post by: Bam-bam on March 05, 2011, 06:40:43 PM
buselmo is one cool cat
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Post by: DK II on March 05, 2011, 06:52:25 PM
lol,,he train bery seriously ,,you kilin me friends,, this is not some wanna be bodybuild this is a bodybuilr,,what do you mean train seriosuly ,,he been in it for many years,,actualy his genetic is average at best,,it is the ability of him to train and take what he need that got him to winner circle,,oen of the best amatuers on the getbig board,,need more torse size and leg size but aside from that he is on point,,

gh15 approved
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kyomu??  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Is that you?
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Post by: tbombz on March 05, 2011, 07:07:24 PM
lol,,he train bery seriously ,,you kilin me friends,, this is not some wanna be bodybuild this is a bodybuilr,,what do you mean train seriosuly ,,he been in it for many years,,actualy his genetic is average at best,,it is the ability of him to train and take what he need that got him to winner circle,,oen of the best amatuers on the getbig board,,need more torse size and leg size but aside from that he is on point,,

gh15 approved
no he doesnt, going to the gym regularly doesnt mean you take it seriously, he has said many times he trains light, pumps his muscles, and doesnt focus on getting stronger.

i dont care what you say man, the only way to get make optimal progress is to focus on getting stronger.  dorian yates, ronnie coleman. need i say more?

look at johnny jackson. built his body powerfliting. he shifted to "bodybuilding" and hasnt added any size since. look at every pro out there. look the same year after year, even though they are using massive amounts of roids, gh, insulin, etc. why is that? because they fall into the drug trap, the one your always talking about, thinking that the only thing that matters is hormones. well guess what? they lift the same weights every workout, and they NEVER GROW!!!!

the only time pros grow nowdays is when they upp the doseage. pathetic.
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Post by: tommywishbone on March 05, 2011, 07:11:01 PM
Nice work. Solid physique.
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Post by: dyslexic on March 05, 2011, 07:11:57 PM
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kyomu??  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Is that you?



ROR  (raff out roud)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bic_staedtler on March 05, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
Question about your gear from Egypt: is this the same stuff you can get at any pharmacy in places like Cairo and Sharm el Sheikh?  Or is all that stuff fake?

PS, thanks for the honesty!
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 07:52:50 PM
no he doesnt, going to the gym regularly doesnt mean you take it seriously, he has said many times he trains light, pumps his muscles, and doesnt focus on getting stronger.

i dont care what you say man, the only way to get make optimal progress is to focus on getting stronger.  dorian yates, ronnie coleman. need i say more?

look at johnny jackson. built his body powerfliting. he shifted to "bodybuilding" and hasnt added any size since. look at every pro out there. look the same year after year, even though they are using massive amounts of roids, gh, insulin, etc. why is that? because they fall into the drug trap, the one your always talking about, thinking that the only thing that matters is hormones. well guess what? they lift the same weights every workout, and they NEVER GROW!!!!

the only time pros grow nowdays is when they upp the doseage. pathetic.

stop calling me man im not your fuckin friend,,now when i tell you he train VERY SERIOUSLY I MEAN THAT ,,his physiqe wipe the floor upside down with you and many on this board,,he has national levelo upper torse,,it has all to do with drugs and training and respond to drugs,, but mainly with legit drugs,, he train well,,trust mew on that,,no one NO ONNE present this level of development of upper tore with out being complete and utter head over hills into hormones..doesnt mean he do everything becuase as he say money,,but he been to EVERYTHING FROM CHINA TO NORTH KOREA AND BACK,,this is a very well developed physiqe for 190lb fella ,,and it is one who was made by somone who knows his body to the t ,,true it can not win nationals but it also dont take insulin....this is physiqe that is very much after years of training,,and after years of being a bodybuildr and putting everything you have into it ,,trust me on that

powerlifting mean shit!<,i to this date lift th emost out of any bodybuilder did it win me mr olympia? no,,lifting very heavy and being bigger bodybuild has nothing to do with eachother,, bodybuild is in the quality and only when there is quality size mean anything

gh15 approved
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 07:58:01 PM
and to anyone who think im wrong ,,they really dont knwo bodybuild,,the country the fella is from is surrounded with all you can eat hormone buffet,,even if not taken all the time,,it is always there ,,bodybuidl from those areas look the best,,and also overthere they take bodybuild very very seirously,,very very seriously! there is a reason we all go there for guest posing,,

i keep tellin you how it is ,,this physiqe he present has

tren in it ,,has testosterona in it,,had gh in it! which at times gh as said before by me open a window of 6-12 months for growth after discontinue of usage....remember we talk bodybuild here,,look at his before pictures,,he look completely diff!,,he look skinny fat,,with absolitly no muscle,,and from that to go to this prresented in pic.....just take a look at the development this is pretyy much upper torse change that only someone who knows his body to the t can make ,,and yes it can be doen with whatever diet you want if IF you know your body to the t like this fella does,,

gh15 approved
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Post by: tbombz on March 05, 2011, 08:03:00 PM
listen MAN your not ronnie coleman so your full of shit about being the strongest bodybuilder.


hormones are not the only thing. why would dorian and ronnie have wasted their time training heavy and getting strong as possible if they didnt have to ?

look at every pro out there. they never grow. if all that maatterd was steroids, they would all be growing every year, because they are all using massive amounts of gh and roids.  but guess what? THEY ARE USING TONS OF DRUGS YEAR ROUND AND THEY STILL ARENT GROWING

because their dumbasses are using the same amount of weight as when they turned pro
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Post by: 225for70 on March 05, 2011, 08:05:28 PM
no GH this year  :'( :'( :'( ... couldn't afford it. we can't order any GH from china (customs are worse than australia... even though it's legal, you can't bring any powders or liquids or supplements in without approval from the ministry of health... which is basically impossible)... and 4 iu of GH costs a minimum of $12... so, no moneyz  :'(

If i took GH it wouldn't have taken me 18 weeks to get that lean starting out like this

Good stuff Buselmo..

I enjoy reading your posts..
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 08:07:20 PM
listen MAN your not ronnie coleman so your full of shit about being the strongest bodybuilder.


hormones are not the only thing. why would dorian and ronnie have wasted their time training heavy and getting strong as possible if they didnt have to ?

look at every pro out there. they never grow. if all that maatterd was steroids, they would all be growing every year, because they are all using massive amounts of gh and roids.  but guess what? THEY ARE USING TONS OF DRUGS YEAR ROUND AND THEY STILL ARENT GROWING

because their dumbasses are using the same amount of weight as when they turned pro

no its because we maximized our growtrh on the way to become profesional and in the first 2 years of being professional!!!!!!!!!

the ones now day like kukelo can nto grow if they  get profesional card because they already head over hills in insulina

gh15 approved
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Post by: tbombz on March 05, 2011, 08:08:50 PM
no its because we maximized our growtrh on the way to become profesional and in the first 2 years of being professional!!!!!!!!!

the ones now day like kukelo can nto grow if they  get profesional card because they already head over hills in insulina

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thats half the reason.

the other half of it is because they arent lifting heavier.

dorian was already maxed out on drugs when he turned pro. but he continued to grow. because he lifted heavier and heavier  ;)
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 08:10:31 PM
thats half the reason.

the other half of it is because they arent lifting heavier.

dorian was already maxed out on drugs when he turned pro. but he continued to grow. because he lifted heavier and heavier  ;)

NO,,he continued to grow because HE FOUND OUT INSULINA IN HIGHER DOSES CREATE BIGGER GUTS AND BIGGER MUSCLES,,he was what mishko claimn to be ,,DORIAN YATES IS! he father of insulina in bodybuild!! thats where the lie is,,mishko was always a follower and a thief,,the real brain was dorians ,,for god sake it has nothing to do with heavy nothing

gh15 approved
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Post by: tbombz on March 05, 2011, 08:17:52 PM
NO,,he continued to grow because HE FOUND OUT INSULINA IN HIGHER DOSES CREATE BIGGER GUTS AND BIGGER MUSCLES,,he was what mishko claimn to be ,,DORIAN YATES IS! he father of insulina in bodybuild!! thats where the lie is,,mishko was always a follower and a thief,,the real brain was dorians ,,for god sake it has nothing to do with heavy nothing

gh15 approved


you can either keep hormones the same and increase poundage

or you can keep poundage the same and increase hormones

increasing hormones will have a bigger effect


but once your maxed out your maxed out

and then you have to increase the weights or else you wont make any progress


just accept this so all your fanboys will finally realize they need to train heavy to get best results. not everbody has the genetics to blow up massive off roids without training hevay. most people have to get super strong along with taking loads of roids in order to look half decent. thats a fract. if you want to help guys, and not just sell drugs, then start emphasizing the fat that in order to get best results you have to be very strong.
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Post by: cephissus on March 05, 2011, 08:29:25 PM
tbombz do you really think pros are "too stupid" to think to try lifting heavier???????

why would you think this?

and i'm surprised you think "training hard" = "lifting heavy."  lifting heavy is easy.  anyone who's ever done a 3rm and a 20rm on squats can tell you that.
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 08:35:13 PM


you can either keep hormones the same and increase poundage

or you can keep poundage the same and increase hormones

increasing hormones will have a bigger effect


but once your maxed out your maxed out

and then you have to increase the weights or else you wont make any progress


just accept this so all your fanboys will finally realize they need to train heavy to get best results. not everbody has the genetics to blow up massive off roids without training hevay. most people have to get super strong along with taking loads of roids in order to look half decent. thats a fract. if you want to help guys, and not just sell drugs, then start emphasizing the fat that in order to get best results you have to be very strong.

BALONIE!,,absolutly rubbish,, there are so many profesionals that dont even squat what the fuck are you talking about??? have you ever seen top amatuers train or top pro traine ,,when camera is not on....i suggest you reevalutate the shit you been taking or the shit you hear from your local town gym guros because they tell you shit,,AGAIN STRENGTH IS NICE AND DANDY,,BUT I KNOW RIGHT NOW OUT OF THE TIP OF MY HEAD 5 FELLAS THAT EACH PUSH  6 45 POUNDERS EACH SIDE OF HAMMERS FOR REPS WITH SHOULDERS THATS tons tons of weight ,,12 PLATES ON HAMMER SHOULDERS IS huge weight ,,AND YET THEY CAN NOT COMPLETE EVEN A LB OVER 190....WHY? THEY GOT ALL THE STRENGTH IN THE WORLD,,


IT IS BECAUSE MUSCLE SIZE HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH YOU LIFT,,YES HEAVY LIFTING IS GOOD TO INCREAE MUSCLE SIZE BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE TO A POINT DEPENDING ON MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR  GENETIC DISPOSITION ,,

THE STRONGEST FELLS ARE THE ONES WITH THE STRONGEST BONES,,LOOK AT MATT T FOR GOD SAKE HE IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST FELLS TO EVER BE ON GETBIG  AND HE IS WHAT? 150 BUCKS DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE HE LIFT,,I KEEP TELLIN YOU STRENGTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSCLE SIZE,,

THE BIGGEST MUSCLES COMES FROM O STIMULATION OF THE MUSCLE AND FROM ADUCATE DOSE OF HORMONES ,,STIMULATE THE MUSCLE WITH ENOUGH WEIGHT TO MAKE THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON WORK!  THAT IS IT! THAT IS ABSOLITLY IT

YOU GROW FROM THE FOLLOWING

MORE TRENBOLONA

MORE HG

MORE INSULIN


WHEN I SAY GROWTH I MEAN THAT GROWTH ! NOT BLOOFY SHIT,,LEAN  GROWTH THE ONE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT CAN ONLY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN THE DRUG TRENBOLONA IS IN THE BLOOD WITH THE TEST ,,THE MOMENT YOU WANT TO GO EVEN HIGHER YOU ADD GH AND THEN YOU ONLY LEFT WITH ONE THING SO YOU DONT GET TOO LEAN AND FLAT....THAT THING CALLED

I N S U L I N AND THAT THING RUINED BODYBUILD,,NO ONE WANT TO LOOK LIKE LEE HAINEY ANYMORE,,THEY AFRAID TO LOOK TOO SMALL AND ONLY HAVE 18 INCH ARMS OR 17 INCH ARMS,,SO THEY LOAD ON INSULINA,,

THIS IS HOW IT IS ,,

THE END

gh15 approved
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Post by: gh15 on March 05, 2011, 08:37:31 PM
tbombz do you really think pros are "too stupid" to think to try lifting heavier???????

why would you think this?

and i'm surprised you think "training hard" = "lifting heavy."  lifting heavy is easy.  anyone who's ever done a 3rm and a 20rm on squats can tell you that.

he dotn get that the ones who lift very heavy  when it come to majority of the morons around alwyas go compete in the 190lb zone,,they never actualy grow into the big numbers of bodybuild ,,,those are also the guys who live to see their granchildren marry....because they dont abuse insulin ,,they are just strong and rely on gh and aas,,like it should be

gh15 approved
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 09:39:13 PM
So would you say that the higher volume training gives you a more refined and polished look?

yes... it gives you a different look. more pop to the muscle and for some reason you look less 'doughy' for lack of a better word...

here's a pic of when i competed training low volume, very heavy, slin, gh, tren, masteron, anavar, primo... almost every drug under the sun with guidance from a very famous trainer... not even close to the quality i had this contest.

and i weighed 84.5 kg here... only a 3 kg difference
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 09:39:49 PM
How did you get a "Texas" shirt over in BumFuckEgypt?

LOL!
got it from austin, bro  ;)
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 09:51:47 PM
looking good, you got some good genetics man, start training seriously and stay on teh juice for an extended period of time and youll be a monster.

never said i didn't train seriously... i just said that in the past couple of months i didn't give my legs time of day because i'm a little lazy when it comes to legs for finding no reason to want them to be bigger or more defined... and i don't fancy trying to make them as big as humanly possible so that i could 'waddle' like a penguin and having normal people laugh at my legs thinking i'm obese or something.
i've developed some serious knee and shoulder problems from training like a retard since late 2006 and trying to force myself to get stronger... went up to squatting 495 lbs at one period of time... decline benched 365 lbs for 6-8 reps, incline smith benched 3 plates and a half each side for 6-8 reps and deadlifted 405 lbs... and i'm not a big dude... this has caused a ton of problems to my joints and did not make me look any better or grow any better.

and if you think the way i train right now is lazy, go try it. really... i was like you a couple of years ago... thinking people are lazy cuz they don't push themselves to get stronger and shit like that until i got fucked... everyone around me was growing and i was looking almost the exact same year after year...

try working out like serge nubret or gironda and then tell me that's lazy.
when you're half way through your sets for your first exercise, gasping for air, muscles burn like shit, and you look at the time and pray to god you have more rest time than you think between your sets and then see that you have 3 more seconds left to hit your set... then you start it and you almost cry from how bad it burns... 135 lbs on bench feels like 800 lbs!... and when you're done with your first exercise, your chest is so pumped you see muscle fibers you've never seen before... you start looking different... you eat like a bird yet you grow and grow and grow using less gear than you did when you lifted to crack your joints up and thinking bone and joint pain = muscle gain.
there's a reason why for years the top bodybuilders i see at the gym kept on laughing at the way i train and joke around saying "can i borrow your training for a couple of days? I have a couple of things i need to do outside and i don't wanna spend two hours here! LOL"...

i'm almost 30 now... and trust me Tbombz... in a couple of years, you'll change the way you think about "heavy = muscle, not heavy = lazy and not serious"...
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 09:54:56 PM
BALONIE!,,absolutly rubbish,, there are so many profesionals that dont even squat what the fuck are you talking about??? have you ever seen top amatuers train or top pro traine ,,when camera is not on....i suggest you reevalutate the shit you been taking or the shit you hear from your local town gym guros because they tell you shit,,AGAIN STRENGTH IS NICE AND DANDY,,BUT I KNOW RIGHT NOW OUT OF THE TIP OF MY HEAD 5 FELLAS THAT EACH PUSH  6 45 POUNDERS EACH SIDE OF HAMMERS FOR REPS WITH SHOULDERS THATS tons tons of weight ,,12 PLATES ON HAMMER SHOULDERS IS huge weight ,,AND YET THEY CAN NOT COMPLETE EVEN A LB OVER 190....WHY? THEY GOT ALL THE STRENGTH IN THE WORLD,,


IT IS BECAUSE MUSCLE SIZE HAS NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW MUCH YOU LIFT,,YES HEAVY LIFTING IS GOOD TO INCREAE MUSCLE SIZE BUT IT WILL ALWAYS BE TO A POINT DEPENDING ON MANY OTHER FACTORS THAT ARE PART OF YOUR  GENETIC DISPOSITION ,,

THE STRONGEST FELLS ARE THE ONES WITH THE STRONGEST BONES,,LOOK AT MATT T FOR GOD SAKE HE IS ONE OF THE STRONGEST FELLS TO EVER BE ON GETBIG  AND HE IS WHAT? 150 BUCKS DOESNT EVEN LOOK LIKE HE LIFT,,I KEEP TELLIN YOU STRENGTH HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MUSCLE SIZE,,

THE BIGGEST MUSCLES COMES FROM O STIMULATION OF THE MUSCLE AND FROM ADUCATE DOSE OF HORMONES ,,STIMULATE THE MUSCLE WITH ENOUGH WEIGHT TO MAKE THE DRUGS YOU ARE ON WORK!  THAT IS IT! THAT IS ABSOLITLY IT

YOU GROW FROM THE FOLLOWING

MORE TRENBOLONA

MORE HG

MORE INSULIN


WHEN I SAY GROWTH I MEAN THAT GROWTH ! NOT BLOOFY SHIT,,LEAN  GROWTH THE ONE YOU ALL TALK ABOUT CAN ONLY ONLY HAPPEN WHEN THE DRUG TRENBOLONA IS IN THE BLOOD WITH THE TEST ,,THE MOMENT YOU WANT TO GO EVEN HIGHER YOU ADD GH AND THEN YOU ONLY LEFT WITH ONE THING SO YOU DONT GET TOO LEAN AND FLAT....THAT THING CALLED

I N S U L I N AND THAT THING RUINED BODYBUILD,,NO ONE WANT TO LOOK LIKE LEE HAINEY ANYMORE,,THEY AFRAID TO LOOK TOO SMALL AND ONLY HAVE 18 INCH ARMS OR 17 INCH ARMS,,SO THEY LOAD ON INSULINA,,

THIS IS HOW IT IS ,,

THE END

gh15 approved


it took me years to understand this... write this down everyone...
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 05, 2011, 09:58:49 PM
I think it's funny that "tbombz", who is all drugs anyways (shitty drugs that is), is giving lectures about proper training.

He was a fat little kid that hopped on the cocaine diet and then straight to roids, there is NO training at all behind him.


tbombz, just STFU, you have no clue of what you are talking about.
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 09:59:09 PM
Have you seen the tattoo on his back??  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


loooooool

finally someone understands what it means  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 05, 2011, 10:14:52 PM
try working out like serge nubret or gironda and then tell me that's lazy.
when you're half way through your sets for your first exercise, gasping for air, muscles burn like shit, and you look at the time and pray to god you have more rest time than you think between your sets and then see that you have 3 more seconds left to hit your set... then you start it and you almost cry from how bad it burns... 135 lbs on bench feels like 800 lbs!... and when you're done with your first exercise, your chest is so pumped you see muscle fibers you've never seen before... you start looking different... you eat like a bird yet you grow and grow and grow using less gear than you did when you lifted to crack your joints up and thinking bone and joint pain = muscle gain.
there's a reason why for years the top bodybuilders i see at the gym kept on laughing at the way i train and joke around saying "can i borrow your training for a couple of days? I have a couple of things i need to do outside and i don't wanna spend two hours here! LOL"...

i'm almost 30 now... and trust me Tbombz... in a couple of years, you'll change the way you think about "heavy = muscle, not heavy = lazy and not serious"...

You doing Gironda's 8x8?  If not, sweet geezus it sounded like you were.  Doing a legit 2 - 3 sec up, then down.  Then waiting only 20 - 30 seconds to do your next set......realizing that 4 sets in you are only halfway done.  Knees never felt so good as when I did that for legs.  What Gironda type training are you doing if not 8x8?

I also want to echo the sentiment on the joint pain.  For all the years of lifting heavy, heavy, heavy on legs....I have a problem squatting 315 for 10 without the impending doom of knee pain late ron that day, and for the next day or two after that.
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Post by: buselmo on March 05, 2011, 10:46:20 PM
You doing Gironda's 8x8?  If not, sweet geezus it sounded like you were.  Doing a legit 2 - 3 sec up, then down.  Then waiting only 20 - 30 seconds to do your next set......realizing that 4 sets in you are only halfway done.  Knees never felt so good as when I did that for legs.  What Gironda type training are you doing if not 8x8?

I also want to echo the sentiment on the joint pain.  For all the years of lifting heavy, heavy, heavy on legs....I have a problem squatting 315 for 10 without the impending doom of knee pain late ron that day, and for the next day or two after that.

I tried the gironda 10x10 program a while back (last year) and i loved it! esepecially the diet that went with it. I was amazed at the pump i got and the fullness i had especially that i ate practically trace amounts of carbs on that diet!

but this year i've went on more like a serge nubret type of training.

3 exercises per muscle, 8 sets first exercise, 6 sets 2nd and 3rd exercise. hitting chest, back on sat and tue, delts and arms on sun and wed, legs on mon... 60 seconds rest between sets, sometimes less.

sometimes after the first 8 sets of leg extensions, i would hop off the machine and smash into the ground because my legs aren't strong enough after that fucked up exercise to carry my ass up.

i remember after training delts and arms, i'd go on the treadmill, and for the first 10-15 minutes, i'd have to grind my teeth to be able to take the burn i'm feeling in my shoulders (the muscle and not the joints)... with high volume, even if you aren't lifting heavy, but you put effort into it, you really feel like you're bodybuilding. not just throwing around weight and working out your ego.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bic_staedtler on March 05, 2011, 11:18:01 PM
and to anyone who think im wrong ,,they really dont knwo bodybuild,,the country the fella is from is surrounded with all you can eat hormone buffet,,even if not taken all the time,,it is always there ,,bodybuidl from those areas look the best,,and also overthere they take bodybuild very very seirously,,very very seriously! there is a reason we all go there for guest posing,,

i keep tellin you how it is ,,this physiqe he present has

tren in it ,,has testosterona in it,,had gh in it! which at times gh as said before by me open a window of 6-12 months for growth after discontinue of usage....remember we talk bodybuild here,,look at his before pictures,,he look completely diff!,,he look skinny fat,,with absolitly no muscle,,and from that to go to this prresented in pic.....just take a look at the development this is pretyy much upper torse change that only someone who knows his body to the t can make ,,and yes it can be doen with whatever diet you want if IF you know your body to the t like this fella does,,

gh15 approved

Holy flying fuckballs, 'man'.  Do you ever even fucking bother to spell check your shit?  Even for getbig, this above post is fucking UNREADABLE. 
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Meso_z on March 05, 2011, 11:24:40 PM
I tried the gironda 10x10 program a while back (last year) and i loved it! esepecially the diet that went with it. I was amazed at the pump i got and the fullness i had especially that i ate practically trace amounts of carbs on that diet!

but this year i've went on more like a serge nubret type of training.

3 exercises per muscle, 8 sets first exercise, 6 sets 2nd and 3rd exercise. hitting chest, back on sat and tue, delts and arms on sun and wed, legs on mon... 60 seconds rest between sets, sometimes less.

sometimes after the first 8 sets of leg extensions, i would hop off the machine and smash into the ground because my legs aren't strong enough after that fucked up exercise to carry my ass up.

i remember after training delts and arms, i'd go on the treadmill, and for the first 10-15 minutes, i'd have to grind my teeth to be able to take the burn i'm feeling in my shoulders (the muscle and not the joints)... with high volume, even if you aren't lifting heavy, but you put effort into it, you really feel like you're bodybuilding. not just throwing around weight and working out your ego.

Any link with Girondas training splits/routines?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 06, 2011, 12:13:42 AM
Any link with Girondas training splits/routines?

I had the e-book but I lost the flash drive it was on  :-[

but there are a lot of ways to do it... and every book/article/old school bodybuilder says the other guy is wrong in explaining gironda's shit...

most old school bodybuilders would tell you that it was basically a 3 day a week workout, hitting full body every work. each muscle 10 sets of 10 rep with 60 secs or less reps. he does specific exercises that he believes hits the muscle best...

others say his 10x10 workout is a muscle everyday hit with 10 sets of 10 reps with 60 secs or less rest.

I basically did
chest, delts
back, biceps
legs, triceps
rest
repeat

changing exercises each workout...

it's the idea that counts. failure with moderate/light weights... if you complete the whole thing, next workout you either cut rest time or increase weight just a bit.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: dyslexic on March 06, 2011, 12:40:48 AM
Holy flying fuckballs, 'man'.  Do you ever even fucking bother to spell check your shit?  Even for getbig, this above post is fucking UNREADABLE. 


He does this for a reason.


And that reason has nothing to do with his abilities to spell correctly. I thought everyone knew this.


The only thing I've never really seen is when he CAPS out. Musta been kind of exasperated. The younger guys just don't get it.


But they will... sooner or later. Sooner, if they happen to be fortunate enough to train with someone who is of Pro caliber in their gyms. They can follow their workout routine to the "T" and watch the Pro caliber dude change each day, while they themselves (sadly) stay the same.


Just too ignorant or un-educated to know, and they sure aren't going to get any honesty from the "Pro" at their gym. He's gonna say; Protein, changed workout routine, blah, blah, fucking blah.


He's not going to say: Well this week I'm taking 1000 mgs of test and 200 mg of Anadrol a day. Next week I add the... no. It ain't like that. They lie to everyone (including themselves)


I know only because I trained with a guy just like this. I trained harder and was in better (not bigger, but "better") physical shape and he got all the size and spent a lot less time in the gym. He was always stealing money and trying to Personal Train just before a competition, and it wasn't so that he could pay his rent.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Yev33 on March 06, 2011, 01:08:37 AM
It's funny to come across this thread on the day when Branch won the ASC. Once again hearing things like: the weights you lift have  nothing to do with how big you get. Put aside Coleman, Yates, Cormier, Levrone all of whom trained heavy during their hey days and were the biggest guys on stage. Look at Branch, yes he is on a ton of shit and no one denies it. Would he get to where he is now if he took less? No. But whould he also get to where he is at if he trained like a pussy and never used weights above 225lbs? Do you honestly think that the weights he used, and put his body through hell and injuries had nothing to do with all of the size he added? Branch is a great example of someone who busted his ass and became successful despite his genetics. How can you look at only one half of the formula (which is drugs) and completely overlook what the guy did in the gym? How can you say that none of that shit matters and he was wasting his time, when it has clearly paid off. Yes, he is far from being the most aesthetic and you can think that he did not deserve to win. But you can't ignore the route he took to get himself into the position he is now.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Secret Stack on March 06, 2011, 02:11:49 AM
there is a reason we all go there for guest posing,,

gh15 approved

...another hint dropped for you idiots lol.
think oxygen gym in kuwait and the usual group that go there...

i fkn love this guys style. says about once a month a new one. chose getbig because short attention span/memory here lol.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 02:33:23 AM
...another hint dropped for you idiots lol.
think oxygen gym in kuwait and the usual group that go there...

i fkn love this guys style. says about once a month a new one. chose getbig because short attention span/memory here lol.

Yeah, 3 regular guys go there all the time ;)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: cephissus on March 06, 2011, 02:57:19 AM
Branch is a great example of someone who busted his ass and became successful despite his genetics. How can you look at only one half of the formula (which is drugs) and completely overlook what the guy did in the gym? How can you say that none of that shit matters and he was wasting his time, when it has clearly paid off.

::)

I wish people would stop talking about genetics... can you examine his DNA?  Do you know the genetic code for "blows up when taking trenbolona?" or "massive biceps from concentration curls?" NO??? Have you exhaustively compared his training and drug regimen and the consequent physical changes to those of others following the exact same program, drug regimen, and diet, ie have you performed exhaustive, lifelong studies controlling for every variable aside from "genetics" (as if this were even possible)?  NO?!?!

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW THE FIRST FUCKING THING ABOUT HIS GENETICS?????

On the whole drugs vs. training thing, lets just look at some simple facts:

1.  Every massive pro takes shitloads of drugs.
2.  Some massive pros train "hard" and some train "like pussies."

Now, you may not be well versed in logic, but if you accept the preceding premises, I'll help you along to the conclusion:  if you are capable of being pro size, and take enough drugs, it probably doesn't matter too much how you train!

For all we know Branch might even get bigger if he did smooth, controlled reps with constant tension and less weight ie trained like he possessed a vagina.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 06, 2011, 03:21:40 AM
::)

I wish people would stop talking about genetics... can you examine his DNA?  Do you know the genetic code for "blows up when taking trenbolona?" or "massive biceps from concentration curls?" NO??? Have you exhaustively compared his training and drug regimen and the consequent physical changes to those of others following the exact same program, drug regimen, and diet, ie have you performed exhaustive, lifelong studies controlling for every variable aside from "genetics" (as if this were even possible)?  NO?!?!

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW THE FIRST FUCKING THING ABOUT HIS GENETICS?????

On the whole drugs vs. training thing, lets just look at some simple facts:

1.  Every massive pro takes shitloads of drugs.
2.  Some massive pros train "hard" and some train "like pussies."

Now, you may not be well versed in logic, but if you accept the preceding premises, I'll help you along to the conclusion:  if you are capable of being pro size, and take enough drugs, it probably doesn't matter too much how you train!

For all we know Branch might even get bigger if he did smooth, controlled reps with constant tension and less weight ie trained like he possessed a vagina.

thank you!  ;D


first they say he looked like a turd and he's everything wrong with bodybuilding... then they talk about how shawn ray and flex wheeler and paul dillet looked massive and awesome and what not... then they complain about too much drugs and retardedly huge waists...

THEN... they say "look at branch! are you telling me he got that way from drugs only and not heavy heavy heavy training?!"

here's another one for you... since some people here credit heavy training and don't look at the other part of the equation why these 45" inch waist contest ready freaks are big... why don't you inject upwards of 100 iu slin per day for years on end and eat 5000+ cals from carbs only not counting the other rediculous amounts of food... and why don't you credit their size to that?

I would much rather weigh 210-220 lbs in contest shape with 19-20 inch arms and a 32 inch waist trianing like a "pussy" and taking shit loads of drugs than have 23 inch arms weighing 260 lbs with a 40 inch waist at 4% fat.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: gh15 on March 06, 2011, 03:22:38 AM
::)

I wish people would stop talking about genetics... can you examine his DNA?  Do you know the genetic code for "blows up when taking trenbolona?" or "massive biceps from concentration curls?" NO??? Have you exhaustively compared his training and drug regimen and the consequent physical changes to those of others following the exact same program, drug regimen, and diet, ie have you performed exhaustive, lifelong studies controlling for every variable aside from "genetics" (as if this were even possible)?  NO?!?!

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW THE FIRST FUCKING THING ABOUT HIS GENETICS?????

On the whole drugs vs. training thing, lets just look at some simple facts:

1.  Every massive pro takes shitloads of drugs.
2.  Some massive pros train "hard" and some train "like pussies."

Now, you may not be well versed in logic, but if you accept the preceding premises, I'll help you along to the conclusion:  if you are capable of being pro size, and take enough drugs, it probably doesn't matter too much how you train!

For all we know Branch might even get bigger if he did smooth, controlled reps with constant tension and less weight ie trained like he possessed a vagina.

what many dont understand is and sadly so ,,that we take many many high doses of trenbolona and many other hormones ,,but everyone say trenbolona you get side effect lol yes you get side effect if you are alcoholic and do cocaine and pain killer irght and left yes you will get siede effect....but i many of us take 200-400 mg of trenbolona EVERY SINGLE DAY and have absolutly no sides,,not only that but our pee is straight out light yellow to white color,,so not even dark pee!,,it is all in purity of product ,,it is all in the way your body process the drug ,,not even once did i sweat on trenbolona ,,not even once did i have high heart beat on trenbolona,,only thing i got from trenbolona is high energy high temper and lots and lot and lots of lean muscle sculpted and bodyfat go down same time and with hgh at high dose this = pro level and top amatuer level

so when ever you hear oh i take 75mg trenbolona every 2 day what you really need to do is what i told you before few years ago ,,multiple it by 4! 75 times 4 = 300mg    and this is not every 2 day it is every single day ,,, thats the truth friends

gh15 approved
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: WillGrant on March 06, 2011, 03:34:03 AM
thank you!  ;D


first they say he looked like a turd and he's everything wrong with bodybuilding... then they talk about how shawn ray and flex wheeler and paul dillet looked massive and awesome and what not... then they complain about too much drugs and retardedly huge waists...

THEN... they say "look at branch! are you telling me he got that way from drugs only and not heavy heavy heavy training?!"

here's another one for you... since some people here credit heavy training and don't look at the other part of the equation why these 45" inch waist contest ready freaks are big... why don't you inject upwards of 100 iu slin per day for years on end and eat 5000+ cals from carbs only not counting the other rediculous amounts of food... and why don't you credit their size to that?

I would much rather weigh 210-220 lbs in contest shape with 19-20 inch arms and a 32 inch waist trianing like a "pussy" and taking shit loads of drugs than have 23 inch arms weighing 260 lbs with a 40 inch waist at 4% fat.
Good post bro  8)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: gh15 on March 06, 2011, 03:40:51 AM
i also forgot to mention here,,that this fella that put his pictures here ,,the actual body change from pic befoe to competition,,this is probably the best transformation that getbig ever had on its boarding,,actually probably the best transformation of amatuer in the shortest time,,you can make money on this before and after pictures,,in americana it = money,,its not that he was so bad before he had already less problems in the midsection and was not that fat,,mainly baby fat and middle eastern food type of fat since you can see that his mid torse is quite solid for the bodyfat and water he heldin the beforre pictures,,but the arms.....the delts.....this is a big huge tranformation ,,yes muscle memory ,,yes he is experienced hormonizer and bodybuildr but! the tranformation is very very good,,anyone who can take arm like in the pic before and bring it in 4 months to the arm in the competition pic when 6% ....knows his bodybuildig and hormones,,,reason i make big deal out of it is that the delts are quite impressive too,,,chest less so but still the improvment is drastic due to going up in lean muscle while losing all the fat and water down to under 6% ,,he GAINED aka levrone style inorder to compete!

this is by far the best pictures of amatuer bodybuild that get big has seen tranformation style within time period

gh15 approved
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: gh15 on March 06, 2011, 03:44:12 AM
aside from legs : )

but even they are ok

gh15 approved
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 06, 2011, 03:47:28 AM
i also forgot to mention here,,that this fella that put his pictures here ,,the actual body change from pic befoe to competition,,this is probably the best transformation that getbig ever had on its boarding,,actually probably the best transformation of amatuer in the shortest time,,you can make money on this before and after pictures,,in americana it = money,,its not that he was so bad before he had already less problems in the midsection and was not that fat,,mainly baby fat and middle eastern food type of fat since you can see that his mid torse is quite solid for the bodyfat and water he heldin the beforre pictures,,but the arms.....the delts.....this is a big huge tranformation ,,yes muscle memory ,,yes he is experienced hormonizer and bodybuildr but! the tranformation is very very good,,anyone who can take arm like in the pic before and bring it in 4 months to the arm in the competition pic when 6% ....knows his bodybuildig and hormones,,,reason i make big deal out of it is that the delts are quite impressive too,,,chest less so but still the improvment is drastic due to going up in lean muscle while losing all the fat and water down to under 6% ,,he GAINED aka levrone style inorder to compete!

this is by far the best pictures of amatuer bodybuild that get big has seen tranformation style within time period

gh15 approved

HOLY CRAP!!!

GOD OF HORMONA!!!! I'M HONORED!!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 03:54:03 AM
i also forgot to mention here,,that this fella that put his pictures here ,,the actual body change from pic befoe to competition,,this is probably the best transformation that getbig ever had on its boarding,,actually probably the best transformation of amatuer in the shortest time,,you can make money on this before and after pictures,,in americana it = money,,its not that he was so bad before he had already less problems in the midsection and was not that fat,,mainly baby fat and middle eastern food type of fat since you can see that his mid torse is quite solid for the bodyfat and water he heldin the beforre pictures,,but the arms.....the delts.....this is a big huge tranformation ,,yes muscle memory ,,yes he is experienced hormonizer and bodybuildr but! the tranformation is very very good,,anyone who can take arm like in the pic before and bring it in 4 months to the arm in the competition pic when 6% ....knows his bodybuildig and hormones,,,reason i make big deal out of it is that the delts are quite impressive too,,,chest less so but still the improvment is drastic due to going up in lean muscle while losing all the fat and water down to under 6% ,,he GAINED aka levrone style inorder to compete!

this is by far the best pictures of amatuer bodybuild that get big has seen tranformation style within time period

gh15 approved

I got agree 100% on this, fantastic transformation, Buselmo would be better than all these americano gurus that are so popular these days
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2011, 03:58:24 AM
never said i didn't train seriously... i just said that in the past couple of months i didn't give my legs time of day because i'm a little lazy when it comes to legs for finding no reason to want them to be bigger or more defined... and i don't fancy trying to make them as big as humanly possible so that i could 'waddle' like a penguin and having normal people laugh at my legs thinking i'm obese or something.
i've developed some serious knee and shoulder problems from training like a retard since late 2006 and trying to force myself to get stronger... went up to squatting 495 lbs at one period of time... decline benched 365 lbs for 6-8 reps, incline smith benched 3 plates and a half each side for 6-8 reps and deadlifted 405 lbs... and i'm not a big dude... this has caused a ton of problems to my joints and did not make me look any better or grow any better.

and if you think the way i train right now is lazy, go try it. really... i was like you a couple of years ago... thinking people are lazy cuz they don't push themselves to get stronger and shit like that until i got fucked... everyone around me was growing and i was looking almost the exact same year after year...

try working out like serge nubret or gironda and then tell me that's lazy.
when you're half way through your sets for your first exercise, gasping for air, muscles burn like shit, and you look at the time and pray to god you have more rest time than you think between your sets and then see that you have 3 more seconds left to hit your set... then you start it and you almost cry from how bad it burns... 135 lbs on bench feels like 800 lbs!... and when you're done with your first exercise, your chest is so pumped you see muscle fibers you've never seen before... you start looking different... you eat like a bird yet you grow and grow and grow using less gear than you did when you lifted to crack your joints up and thinking bone and joint pain = muscle gain.
there's a reason why for years the top bodybuilders i see at the gym kept on laughing at the way i train and joke around saying "can i borrow your training for a couple of days? I have a couple of things i need to do outside and i don't wanna spend two hours here! LOL"...

i'm almost 30 now... and trust me Tbombz... in a couple of years, you'll change the way you think about "heavy = muscle, not heavy = lazy and not serious"...

dude that's a great fucking post

everybody should read it
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 04:18:33 AM
::)

I wish people would stop talking about genetics... can you examine his DNA?  Do you know the genetic code for "blows up when taking trenbolona?" or "massive biceps from concentration curls?" NO??? Have you exhaustively compared his training and drug regimen and the consequent physical changes to those of others following the exact same program, drug regimen, and diet, ie have you performed exhaustive, lifelong studies controlling for every variable aside from "genetics" (as if this were even possible)?  NO?!?!

THEN HOW DO YOU KNOW THE FIRST FUCKING THING ABOUT HIS GENETICS?????

On the whole drugs vs. training thing, lets just look at some simple facts:

1.  Every massive pro takes shitloads of drugs.
2.  Some massive pros train "hard" and some train "like pussies."

Now, you may not be well versed in logic, but if you accept the preceding premises, I'll help you along to the conclusion:  if you are capable of being pro size, and take enough drugs, it probably doesn't matter too much how you train!

For all we know Branch might even get bigger if he did smooth, controlled reps with constant tension and less weight ie trained like he possessed a vagina.
agreed..on top of that more gear will make you stronger,so you ll be able to lift heavier anyway..
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 04:25:32 AM
I got agree 100% on this, fantastic transformation, Buselmo would be better than all these americano gurus that are so popular these days
X2
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 04:31:55 AM
agreed..on top of that more gear will make you stronger,so you ll be able to lift heavier anyway..

Great point :D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 04:41:21 AM
Great point :D

Mr Nippon was doing 10cm ROM deadlifts with 350kg today in the gym, all natural (as two other Japs told me right away without being asked)!  ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 04:44:01 AM
Mr Nippon was doing 10cm ROM deadlifts with 350kg today in the gym, all natural (as two other Japs told me right away without being asked)!  ::) ::) ::)



Wow, they must have known you were thinking ''whats his stack?'' using their mind reading powers ::) insecure liars, me and you and that bladerunner twink ought to show them how it is ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:06:27 AM
Mr Nippon was doing 10cm ROM deadlifts with 350kg today in the gym, all natural (as two other Japs told me right away without being asked)!  ::) ::) ::)



we are all natural here  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:07:10 AM
Wow, they must have known you were thinking ''whats his stack?'' using their mind reading powers ::) insecure liars, me and you and that bladerunner twink ought to show them how it is ;D

Well, they will accuse us of using steroids, because we are bad gaijin.   ::) ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:07:46 AM
we are all natural here  ;D ;D

Yes, Testosterone and HGH occur naturally in the body, nothing artificial here.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:08:21 AM
Well, they will accuse us of using steroids, because we are bad gaijin.   ::) ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




typical...
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 05:09:40 AM
Well, they will accuse us of using steroids, because we are bad gaijin.   ::) ::) ::) ::)


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Yep, only us evil gaijin take steroids ::) we should just beat that midget up, probably needs a good kicking
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:10:26 AM
typical...


It's just jealousy, they juice heavily to go from 60 to 80 kg, while gaijin go from 80 to 100kg, LOL.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:10:35 AM
Yep, only us evil gaijin take steroids ::) we should just beat that midget up, probably needs a good kicking

not only are we bad gaijin,we also train better and look better..and they cant take that :P :P :P
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 05:10:51 AM
Yes, Testosterone and HGH occur naturally in the body, nothing artificial here.  ;D ;D ;D

Trenbolona occurs naturally in Mr Nippons body ::)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:12:14 AM
Trenbolona occurs naturally in Mr Nippons body ::)

no he has plenty of liarona -loserona-wankerona ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:13:19 AM

It's just jealousy, they juice heavily to go from 60 to 80 kg, while gaijin go from 80 to 100kg, LOL.

yet they cant move their weight for more than 10 cm( it's still a generous estimate)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 05:14:16 AM
no he has plenty of liarona -loserona-wankerona ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

im sure a few iu's of homotropin per day as well
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:20:18 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

im sure a few iu's of homotropin per day as well

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:21:41 AM
yet they cant move their weight for more than 10 cm( it's still a generous estimate)


Well, the guy is so short, if you look from far it looks like the barbell is lying on the ground, yet he can only lift it up 10cm when standing fully straight up.  ;D ;D


no he has plenty of liarona -loserona-wankerona ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

im sure a few iu's of homotropin per day as well



Mr Nippon, what a fucking joke.

(http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/ironmanjapan/imgs/a/b/ab7a0962.jpg)
(http://pds.exblog.jp/pds/1/200910/17/78/c0193278_10374020.jpg)
(http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/ironmanjapan/imgs/0/3/03c2a478.JPG)
(http://img3.blogs.yahoo.co.jp/ybi/1/ff/0a/pyreneesdeeno/folder/1192330/img_1192330_31888118_0?1260230088)


Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:23:48 AM

Well, the guy is so short, if you look from far it looks like the barbell is lying on the ground, yet he can only lift it up 10cm when standing fully straight up.  ;D ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Mr Nippon, what a fucking joke.

(http://livedoor.2.blogimg.jp/ironmanjapan/imgs/a/b/ab7a0962.jpg)
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you read my mind!!!!! i was gonna say that ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:25:34 AM
Japanese contests are so fixed it's not even funny anymore.  ;D ;D
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Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 06, 2011, 05:32:22 AM
Japanese contests are so fixed it's not even funny anymore.  ;D ;D

Yep, same with their drug testing policies ::)
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Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:34:49 AM
Yep, same with their drug testing policies ::)

Let me guess, only Gaijin are tested because Japanese would NEVER use steroids??  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:36:05 AM
Let me guess, only Gaijin are tested because Japanese would NEVER use steroids??  ;D ;D ;D
absolutely...only gaijin would do such a thing
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Post by: DK II on March 06, 2011, 05:36:45 AM
absolutely...only gaijin would do such a thing


 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We are so bad.  :o :o :o :o :o

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Post by: bladerunner on March 06, 2011, 05:39:43 AM

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

We are so bad.  :o :o :o :o :o



dame dame damena gaijin ??? ??? ??? ???
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: claymore on March 06, 2011, 06:03:07 AM
dude that's a great fucking post

everybody should read it

Agreed
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Post by: Kim Jong Bob on March 06, 2011, 07:43:49 AM
never said i didn't train seriously... i just said that in the past couple of months i didn't give my legs time of day because i'm a little lazy when it comes to legs for finding no reason to want them to be bigger or more defined... and i don't fancy trying to make them as big as humanly possible so that i could 'waddle' like a penguin and having normal people laugh at my legs thinking i'm obese or something.
i've developed some serious knee and shoulder problems from training like a retard since late 2006 and trying to force myself to get stronger... went up to squatting 495 lbs at one period of time... decline benched 365 lbs for 6-8 reps, incline smith benched 3 plates and a half each side for 6-8 reps and deadlifted 405 lbs... and i'm not a big dude... this has caused a ton of problems to my joints and did not make me look any better or grow any better.

and if you think the way i train right now is lazy, go try it. really... i was like you a couple of years ago... thinking people are lazy cuz they don't push themselves to get stronger and shit like that until i got fucked... everyone around me was growing and i was looking almost the exact same year after year...

try working out like serge nubret or gironda and then tell me that's lazy.
when you're half way through your sets for your first exercise, gasping for air, muscles burn like shit, and you look at the time and pray to god you have more rest time than you think between your sets and then see that you have 3 more seconds left to hit your set... then you start it and you almost cry from how bad it burns... 135 lbs on bench feels like 800 lbs!... and when you're done with your first exercise, your chest is so pumped you see muscle fibers you've never seen before... you start looking different... you eat like a bird yet you grow and grow and grow using less gear than you did when you lifted to crack your joints up and thinking bone and joint pain = muscle gain.
there's a reason why for years the top bodybuilders i see at the gym kept on laughing at the way i train and joke around saying "can i borrow your training for a couple of days? I have a couple of things i need to do outside and i don't wanna spend two hours here! LOL"...

i'm almost 30 now... and trust me Tbombz... in a couple of years, you'll change the way you think about "heavy = muscle, not heavy = lazy and not serious"...
great post, the time i really started to grow was when i left my ego at home before the workout. i was up to 600 punds squats and 400 pounds benchpresses but when i took 30 procent of the weights in all excercises my muscles started to grow much faster
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 06, 2011, 08:24:02 AM
I'm reminded of Dexter's recent pre-AC video which musclecenter linked to. Dex says building legs is all about heavy weights, "don't let anyone tell you otherwise, light weight and lots of reps do nothing for size, you have to load heavy weights on barbells". Then he goes on to do the typical quarter range pussy machine workout. Was neither high rep or heavy weight... granted it was very close to show but he was going to show us how you build huge legs. :D

Gironda had some of the best legs. He had the right ideal... not turnip shaped thighs but legs that measured same at top and by the knee. No squats, just lots of sissy squats and hacks etc. Looks great in 501s.

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Post by: 225for70 on March 06, 2011, 09:12:40 AM
I think it's funny that "tbombz", who is all drugs anyways (shitty drugs that is), is giving lectures about proper training.

He was a fat little kid that hopped on the cocaine diet and then straight to roids, there is NO training at all behind him.


tbombz, just STFU, you have no clue of what you are talking about.

Tbombz needs to shut the fuck up..
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Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2011, 10:32:53 AM
I'm reminded of Dexter's recent pre-AC video which musclecenter linked to. Dex says building legs is all about heavy weights, "don't let anyone tell you otherwise, light weight and lots of reps do nothing for size, you have to load heavy weights on barbells". Then he goes on to do the typical quarter range pussy machine workout. Was neither high rep or heavy weight... granted it was very close to show but he was going to show us how you build huge legs. :D

Gironda had some of the best legs. He had the right ideal... not turnip shaped thighs but legs that measured same at top and by the knee. No squats, just lots of sissy squats and hacks etc. Looks great in 501s.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Yv6EmBE71sA/SQU1Ldc8o0I/AAAAAAAAApk/RcR0V--w9Ew/s320/Vince+Gironda.JPG)
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Don't know man, I'm not a fan of huge legs also but those are fucking tiny !
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Post by: Van_Bilderass on March 06, 2011, 10:50:54 AM
Don't know man, I'm not a fan of huge legs also but those are fucking tiny !


I was kidding mostly. :D

Wanted to see if people agreed. I bet Tim Wescott agrees at least. :D
These proportions don't work in today's bodybuilding obviously. Gironda's commentary on today's bodybuilders would have been hilarious no doubt. He thought Arnold looked like a fat fuck, what would he have said about an off-season Branch?  :D

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Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2011, 10:54:56 AM
haha yeah but people are like that in every sports tho.

in boxing or hockey or whatever, the old guys always think people looked better in their time or where better or had more "heart" back in the days.

but the general population would find branch fucking ugly that's for sure
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 06, 2011, 11:02:51 AM
haha yeah but people are like that in every sports tho.

in boxing or hockey or whatever, the old guys always think people looked better in their time or where better or had more "heart" back in the days.

but the general population would find branch fucking ugly that's for sure

I dont know...I remember watching a Raiders documentary and some of the shit they did back then....christ.  Can you imagine some of the pussy-fied guys today playing back in the 70's?  Watch some of the America's Game stories from the 70's....wow....wonder how some guys managed to even get up after hits.
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Post by: tbombz on March 06, 2011, 11:08:05 AM
never said i didn't train seriously... i just said that in the past couple of months i didn't give my legs time of day because i'm a little lazy when it comes to legs for finding no reason to want them to be bigger or more defined... and i don't fancy trying to make them as big as humanly possible so that i could 'waddle' like a penguin and having normal people laugh at my legs thinking i'm obese or something.
i've developed some serious knee and shoulder problems from training like a retard since late 2006 and trying to force myself to get stronger... went up to squatting 495 lbs at one period of time... decline benched 365 lbs for 6-8 reps, incline smith benched 3 plates and a half each side for 6-8 reps and deadlifted 405 lbs... and i'm not a big dude... this has caused a ton of problems to my joints and did not make me look any better or grow any better.

and if you think the way i train right now is lazy, go try it. really... i was like you a couple of years ago... thinking people are lazy cuz they don't push themselves to get stronger and shit like that until i got fucked... everyone around me was growing and i was looking almost the exact same year after year...

try working out like serge nubret or gironda and then tell me that's lazy.
when you're half way through your sets for your first exercise, gasping for air, muscles burn like shit, and you look at the time and pray to god you have more rest time than you think between your sets and then see that you have 3 more seconds left to hit your set... then you start it and you almost cry from how bad it burns... 135 lbs on bench feels like 800 lbs!... and when you're done with your first exercise, your chest is so pumped you see muscle fibers you've never seen before... you start looking different... you eat like a bird yet you grow and grow and grow using less gear than you did when you lifted to crack your joints up and thinking bone and joint pain = muscle gain.
there's a reason why for years the top bodybuilders i see at the gym kept on laughing at the way i train and joke around saying "can i borrow your training for a couple of days? I have a couple of things i need to do outside and i don't wanna spend two hours here! LOL"...

i'm almost 30 now... and trust me Tbombz... in a couple of years, you'll change the way you think about "heavy = muscle, not heavy = lazy and not serious"...

dude, im obsessed with muscles. i trained that way for years.  i could make the bar feel like 400lbs. i would train 30 sets per body part squeezing the living shit out of the muscle. it works if youve never trained before or iif you just increased the doseage. otherwise it doesnt do jack shit.

a big muscle is a strong muscle. fact. so if your not strong, your not big.  ;)
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Post by: Stavios on March 06, 2011, 11:13:11 AM
dude, im obsessed with muscles. i trained that way for years.  i could make the bar feel like 400lbs. i would train 30 sets per body part squeezing the living shit out of the muscle. it works if youve never trained before or iif you just increased the doseage. otherwise it doesnt do jack shit.

a big muscle is a strong muscle. fact. so if your not strong, your not big.  ;)

yeha but you are lucky, you have strong bones and joints.

I can't lift heavy very often.

hell I injure myself even with lightweight sometimes haha
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Post by: lesaucer on March 06, 2011, 11:20:46 AM
guys why complicate everything?  just train both in the low and in the high reps.. keeping the high reps sets at the end of the workout because of lactic acid.. its so simple and i cant understand how someone on the sauce wouldnt want to train heavy.. I mean its one of the coolest shit, being stronger every workout, im not talking about doing 2 bounce retards reps set, but doing fullblown 5-6 controlled slow reps set that your eyes are red and swollen after your set, thats whats up!
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Post by: tbombz on March 06, 2011, 11:23:09 AM
yeha but you are lucky, you have strong bones and joints.

I can't lift heavy very often.

hell I injure myself even with lightweight sometimes haha
nobody can go all out every workout. youll quickly over train. i go in cycles. max weight (singles, doubles, triples) for a few weeks. then back off and do sets of 6-8 for a few weeks. stretching on off days. i think anyone can lift heavy and be injury free if they figure out their body and make sure to use good form. i dont mean you have to be super strict on every rep of every set. but be safe, dont do jerky movements, etc.

there are certain guys out there who can get massive and strong off of juice and high rep light weight workouts. vince taylor rings a bell. but most guys, even on juice, need to really focus on their training and getting as strong as possible in order to build a big body.  even those guys who have great genetic response and never train heavy, once they are big they can go heavy if they want to. because a big muscle is a strong muscle.



im still learning, but ive learned enough to know that most guys arent going to make progress if they dont learn how to workout properly, and so im trying to help guys by arguing this point whenever it comes up. but guys are always so against this idea, its as if they are so scared of lifting heavy that they would rather live in delusion and skinniness than face the truth.
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Post by: tbombz on March 06, 2011, 11:26:18 AM
guys why complicate everything?  just train both in the low and in the high reps.. keeping the high reps sets at the end of the workout because of lactic acid.. its so simple and i cant understand how someone on the sauce wouldnt want to train heavy.. I mean its one of the coolest shit, being stronger every workout, im not talking about doing 2 bounce retards reps set, but doing fullblown 5-6 controlled slow reps set that your eyes are red and swollen after your set, thats whats up!
yeah, training heavy is fun! some of these guys want to be big but dont want to lift heavy. its not gonna happen for 99% of them.  one thing i would say, personally i can only do maybe one or two high rep sets along with the heavy work. and those stay far away from failure. anything more and it is counter productive, in my experience of how my body reacts. when i go really heavy, like i hit a new personal record, i will stop after that set. even if i only did 2 working sets of 2 reps each. i pushed past a platue, i know im going to grow, and i dont want to push myself to the point where my body wont recover and gain size/strength.
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Post by: lesaucer on March 06, 2011, 11:40:50 AM
yeah, training heavy is fun! some of these guys want to be big but dont want to lift heavy. its not gonna happen for 99% of them.  one thing i would say, personally i can only do maybe one or two high rep sets along with the heavy work. and those stay far away from failure. anything more and it is counter productive, in my experience of how my body reacts. when i go really heavy, like i hit a new personal record, i will stop after that set. even if i only did 2 working sets of 2 reps each. i pushed past a platue, i know im going to grow, and i dont want to push myself to the point where my body wont recover and gain size/strength.

yeah whatever works for you.. for me its always to failure and i never stop growing and getting stronger, on the juice tho, not natural lol... take a look at the greats like ronnie, levrone, dorian.. look a how they were training..thats how you do it






do you see guys nowadays benching 5 plates to failure 12 days out from mr.olympia?? fuck no you dont all you see is f@gs like heath and cutlers pumping their balloons with insulin, training in the 15 reps range afraid to tear a muscle.. BALLOONIE!

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Post by: gh15 on March 06, 2011, 12:51:21 PM
dude, im obsessed with muscles. i trained that way for years.  i could make the bar feel like 400lbs. i would train 30 sets per body part squeezing the living shit out of the muscle. it works if youve never trained before or iif you just increased the doseage. otherwise it doesnt do jack shit.

a big muscle is a strong muscle. fact. so if your not strong, your not big.  ;)

tell it to the 185lb clean natural ....that when stop training for 10 days go down to 176lb clean natural lol yet he push weight more than all the 200+ fella in the gym,,you seen them around ,,they train very heavy ....dorian style lol ,,yet they never see 191 lb unless....ON HORMONES lol

the heaviest fellas are almos always the smallest fellas when it come to muscle ,,LEAN MUSCLE,,those are the ones who rarely get injured becuse they got NOTHING TO INJURE LOL,,yes you can be muscular and have high lean muscle and still be strong but it is diff strong ,,when you have high lean muscle mass you think 200 times before you lift very heavy because your muscles dont need it ,,,trust me on that fellas,,they do not need the constant max 7 plates aside lifting wehn you walk around mid to high singles % and 200+ ,,,it is the fellas who are 10% + that lift the heaviest and they NEVER LOOK LIKE BODYBUILDERS!

always diff cases but with majority of lifters thats the situation,,the fella 250lb  18-22% is the one who will lift the most,, the fella next to him 210lb 8% will lift just as much but will be much smarter and know his body to the t and will make sure he ldoesnt kick it super heavy  on a regular basis but more of a combo,,

in any case....    the less body fat you are the less heavy you wil lift because the less water you will hold the less fat you will hold and the more risk of injury to your precious muscles,,period

now you may be stronger ,,nto mayeb you will on trenbolona and other hormones but it doesnt mean you will lift the heaviest ,,because the sucesful bodybuildl is the smart bodybuild,,the fact you see bodybuild lift very heavy on video mean absolitly nothing when it come to his everyday training,,you see one time lifting one day one month,, you dont see the other 20 days,, take a look at dex is good example.....no squats lol,,many dont do dead lifts dont even touch it,,


gh15 approved
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 06, 2011, 01:36:53 PM
in any case....    the less body fat you are the less heavy you wil lift because the less water you will hold the less fat you will hold and the more risk of injury to your precious muscles,,period
gh15 approved

As much as I think you are a tool....that right there has summed up a few of my injuries in my life (pec, hamstring, tricep)
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Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 06, 2011, 04:55:28 PM
Your body doesn't know what weight you are lifting, only the stress applied to the muscle.

When you are young an inexperienced, it is easier to use heavier weights but once you have trained for a while, you can put more stress on the muscle with lighter weights. You can't do this after 2-5 years of training it takes longer.
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Post by: tbombz on March 06, 2011, 06:17:29 PM
Your body doesn't know what weight you are lifting, only the stress applied to the muscle.

When you are young an inexperienced, it is easier to use heavier weights but once you have trained for a while, you can put more stress on the muscle with lighter weights. You can't do this after 2-5 years of training it takes longer.
lets see some pictures. if youve been training for so long and are such an expert.  :)
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 06, 2011, 08:17:20 PM
Your body doesn't know what weight you are lifting, only the stress applied to the muscle.


WTF?  That makes no sense whatsoever....
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Post by: Disgusted on March 06, 2011, 08:29:05 PM
WTF?  That makes no sense whatsoever....

Why?
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 06, 2011, 08:37:37 PM
Because it was a contradiction.  The weight you lift (be it heavy, light, low reps, high reps) is a stress that the body adapts to....so it does "know" what weight was lifted according to the stress created by said weight.  In turn, it adapts to it in order to be prepared for it the next time.
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Post by: Disgusted on March 06, 2011, 08:48:05 PM
Because it was a contradiction.  The weight you lift (be it heavy, light, low reps, high reps) is a stress that the body adapts to....so it does "know" what weight was lifted according to the stress created by said weight.  In turn, it adapts to it in order to be prepared for it the next time.

Well if all things being equal maybe, but they rarely if ever are. A small amount of body english, changes in blood sugar, lack of sleep, motivation, drugs of any kind, intracellular water levels and more can have an effect on whether your muscles "know" what weight "it" is using. Also, even a one pound increase in a particular exercise will eventually over the years have one using 1000 pounds while bench pressing for example. There are many powerlifters who are not nearly as big as bodybuilders that are much stronger and will tell you that in order for you to get stronger you will sacrifice size.
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Post by: dyslexic on March 06, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
nobody can go all out every workout. youll quickly over train. i go in cycles. max weight (singles, doubles, triples) for a few weeks. then back off and do sets of 6-8 for a few weeks. stretching on off days. i think anyone can lift heavy and be injury free if they figure out their body and make sure to use good form. i dont mean you have to be super strict on every rep of every set. but be safe, dont do jerky movements, etc.

there are certain guys out there who can get massive and strong off of juice and high rep light weight workouts. vince taylor rings a bell. but most guys, even on juice, need to really focus on their training and getting as strong as possible in order to build a big body.  even those guys who have great genetic response and never train heavy, once they are big they can go heavy if they want to. because a big muscle is a strong muscle.



im still learning, but ive learned enough to know that most guys arent going to make progress if they dont learn how to workout properly, and so im trying to help guys by arguing this point whenever it comes up. but guys are always so against this idea, its as if they are so scared of lifting heavy that they would rather live in delusion and skinniness than face the truth.


Dude, youre still young, huh... (?)


Are you still training near me? I heard Kens girl tell me he opened two more gyms in the East Bay.
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Post by: tbombz on March 06, 2011, 08:51:30 PM

Dude, youre still young, huh... (?)


Are you still training near me? I heard Kens girl tell me he opened two more gyms in the East Bay.
not at kens gym anymore, im at the 24 hour now. still manteca. ya i heard he opened those gyms. i also heard he was kicking people out of his gym from being "too loud".  :-\
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Post by: The Grim Lifter on March 07, 2011, 03:44:43 AM
Because it was a contradiction.  The weight you lift (be it heavy, light, low reps, high reps) is a stress that the body adapts to....so it does "know" what weight was lifted according to the stress created by said weight.  In turn, it adapts to it in order to be prepared for it the next time.

Firstly, when i was younger someone said that to me and i thought it was bullshit.

Secondly, i have trained as heavy as i could get to with deads and squats, so over 600 pounds for reps on deads and close on squats. I gained more size dropping the weights and training to failure with reps being slower. Now i just feel everything, i still train heavy and to failure but i could go heavier yet i'm bigger than i've ever been.

If you're not convinced then don't do it. Getting stronger is important to growth, especially early on, but it's not the be all and end all.
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Post by: wes on March 07, 2011, 03:50:48 AM
I bet Tim Wescott agrees at least. :D
:'(
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Post by: dr.chimps on March 07, 2011, 04:12:32 AM
:'(
*runs for cover*     ;D
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 07, 2011, 04:50:28 AM
Firstly, when i was younger someone said that to me and i thought it was bullshit.

Secondly, i have trained as heavy as i could get to with deads and squats, so over 600 pounds for reps on deads and close on squats. I gained more size dropping the weights and training to failure with reps being slower. Now i just feel everything, i still train heavy and to failure but i could go heavier yet i'm bigger than i've ever been.

If you're not convinced then don't do it. Getting stronger is important to growth, especially early on, but it's not the be all and end all.

So, basically your body did "know" what to do with that particular stress placed on it being that you are bigger than you ever have been.  Trust me, I know all too well about the heavy vs. light thing.  As much as I loved in the past training heavy (squat up to 500, dead up to 565) my joints cant take that anymore.  I am right there with you on the size thing since committing to rotating my training.  When I do the "heavy" stuff I do use a slower tempo, but still pay for it for a few days.  Sad as it is, I enjoy the lighter more intense days....wish I could have convinced a 25yo self to do that.

I will still hold that there is the adaptation to the stress placed on the muscles that is individualistic....
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Post by: no one on March 07, 2011, 06:22:50 AM
i am training now using less weight, and more cable work on my arms than ever. they are responding ridiculously well to the point they have gone from my weakest body part to looking like they belong on my body- bringing up any body part if you have ever tried it is usually almost more than difficult without seo.

overall, i have upped my volume and decreased my weight on all exercises and am growing like a weed. fuck lifting heavy. i cant remember the last time i tried to bench 315. i have no need to.
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Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
i am training now using less weight, and more cable work on my arms than ever. they are responding ridiculously well to the point they have gone from my weakest body part to looking like they belong on my body- bringing up any body part if you have ever tried it is usually almost more than difficult without seo.

overall, i have upped my volume and decreased my weight on all exercises and am growing like a weed. fuck lifting heavy. i cant remember the last time i tried to bench 315. i have no need to.

Same for me !!
my arms still look weak as fuck while in a relaxed  pose or front lat spread because they have bad shape, but in a front double bicep or abs and tighs they are very good now !

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Post by: tbombz on March 07, 2011, 04:00:15 PM
i am training now using less weight, and more cable work on my arms than ever. they are responding ridiculously well to the point they have gone from my weakest body part to looking like they belong on my body- bringing up any body part if you have ever tried it is usually almost more than difficult without seo.

overall, i have upped my volume and decreased my weight on all exercises and am growing like a weed. fuck lifting heavy. i cant remember the last time i tried to bench 315. i have no need to.
LMAO

your a small fuck
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Post by: Stavios on March 07, 2011, 09:35:48 PM
Bump for this thread, it should stays on top  8)
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Post by: no one on March 09, 2011, 11:20:30 AM
LMAO

your a small fuck

lol well, i dont look like you. thats for sure.
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Post by: Natural Man on March 09, 2011, 11:30:38 AM
still wondering how these muslim "believers" associate islam, mohammad principles with smoking, drinking, extreme narcissism and repressed homosexuality without any second thoughts.

a funny world we live in.

Is it any better than "the coach" telling us how much of a republican and christian believer he is while at the same time having married and divorced 4 women, and using steroids for years.

Haha, humans ...the funniest animals on earth.
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Post by: Krankenstein on March 09, 2011, 11:33:06 AM
I tried the gironda 10x10 program a while back (last year) and i loved it! esepecially the diet that went with it. I was amazed at the pump i got and the fullness i had especially that i ate practically trace amounts of carbs on that diet!

but this year i've went on more like a serge nubret type of training.

3 exercises per muscle, 8 sets first exercise, 6 sets 2nd and 3rd exercise. hitting chest, back on sat and tue, delts and arms on sun and wed, legs on mon... 60 seconds rest between sets, sometimes less.

sometimes after the first 8 sets of leg extensions, i would hop off the machine and smash into the ground because my legs aren't strong enough after that fucked up exercise to carry my ass up.

i remember after training delts and arms, i'd go on the treadmill, and for the first 10-15 minutes, i'd have to grind my teeth to be able to take the burn i'm feeling in my shoulders (the muscle and not the joints)... with high volume, even if you aren't lifting heavy, but you put effort into it, you really feel like you're bodybuilding. not just throwing around weight and working out your ego.

Oh and a big FUCK YOU ....


Your 8 sets of 1st ex, 6 on 2nd and 3rd....did it for legs....  :-X near vomit....Do you keep that volume up for all bodyparts?  If not, how do you break everything else up?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Alex23 on March 09, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
lol well, i dont look like you. thats for sure.

What do you look like then?

And why didn't you show up monday? I was pretty clear about where I was going to be.

tbombz >>>>>> no one.

Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: no one on March 10, 2011, 10:07:26 AM
What do you look like then?

And why didn't you show up monday? I was pretty clear about where I was going to be.

tbombz >>>>>> no one.




still waiting for that pm where you say that whatever happens between us you entered into voluntarily.

better yet- write it right here in this thread for the whole board to see and i'll give you my word i'll be there.

lets see how big your balls are, mouthpiece.



Hope I"m not twisting your arm but are you coming on monday?

All drama aside, I'm sure it would be fun. No pics, no outing, promised.

Once I meet ppl IRL, they're off limits, actually the opposite, I'll prop u up, I'm sure you walk the walk...

take care man, get over the drama...


for a guy who was kissing my ass in PM's after i called you out, you sure are talking big now that the day has come and gone.

A23 = my bitch and a coward, and the whole board knows it.

 :D

Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 10, 2011, 11:52:44 AM
still wondering how these muslim "believers" associate islam, mohammad principles with smoking, drinking, extreme narcissism and repressed homosexuality without any second thoughts.

a funny world we live in.

Is it any better than "the coach" telling us how much of a republican and christian believer he is while at the same time having married and divorced 4 women, and using steroids for years.

Haha, humans ...the funniest animals on earth.

LOL!

not everyone here is religious bro  ;)

there are good muslims who mind their own damn business and don't give a shit about anyone else's beliefs...
there are idiot muslims...
bad muslims....
people who are forced to believe in islam...
and people who aren't muslims but have to declare they are by law...

so don't act all like you know shit, fella  :P ;D


Oh and a big FUCK YOU ....


Your 8 sets of 1st ex, 6 on 2nd and 3rd....did it for legs....  :-X near vomit....Do you keep that volume up for all bodyparts?  If not, how do you break everything else up?

yup... all body parts same volume... 20 sets... 8, 6, 6... group chest with back, delts with supersetting biceps and triceps, quads and hams.... then repeat...

it's sickening if it's the first time you try it... within a week or two, you're gonna have fun... and it'll seem like you never run out of energy and if you have carbs in your diet like i do now (i haven't had more than 120 grams of carbs on workout days since december) and you use slin... holy shit do you get full and vascular without looking puffy!!!! but i only increase my carbs on sun and tue

since you're natural, i don't think you'll be using slin... but i'd assume that you'd get the same effect, only not that exaggerated, by just eating more carbs if you aren't trying to lean out.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Krankenstein on March 10, 2011, 12:04:46 PM

yup... all body parts same volume... 20 sets... 8, 6, 6... group chest with back, delts with supersetting biceps and triceps, quads and hams.... then repeat...

it's sickening if it's the first time you try it... within a week or two, you're gonna have fun... and it'll seem like you never run out of energy and if you have carbs in your diet like i do now (i haven't had more than 120 grams of carbs on workout days since december) and you use slin... holy shit do you get full and vascular without looking puffy!!!! but i only increase my carbs on sun and tue

since you're natural, i don't think you'll be using slin... but i'd assume that you'd get the same effect, only not that exaggerated, by just eating more carbs if you aren't trying to lean out.


All bodyparts the same?  Wow...when I did the 8x8 gironda...I liked that feeling you KNEW was coming the next day.  You are right though...feels as though you have a weird amount of energy....not natural anymore...I am doing the pussy amount of T-cyp.  Spoke with an MD in florida that laughed when I told him how much I was on...he said "are you 160lbs?"  He recommended 200mgT/wk...with HCG....with dex...with 8weeks deca, then 8 weeks off deca.  I asked him "you know you I am not competing anymore...right?"  He just said that athletes respond better to those levels...even when they are done with their sports.  Thats a big reason why I never did that shit till now...I cant imagine how many times a week people are sticking themselves with needles.  It takes me a few mins to just do the one shot I am doing now.

So, 120gms of carbs on all other days but sun and tues?  How high do you go on those days?  For me...(as you saw in my one diet that I posted)..I eat like that all week (cycling carbs)..then sunday I just blow it out.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 10, 2011, 12:10:21 PM
All bodyparts the same?  Wow...when I did the 8x8 gironda...I liked that feeling you KNEW was coming the next day.  You are right though...feels as though you have a weird amount of energy....not natural anymore...I am doing the pussy amount of T-cyp.  Spoke with an MD in florida that laughed when I told him how much I was on...he said "are you 160lbs?"  He recommended 200mgT/wk...with HCG....with dex...with 8weeks deca, then 8 weeks off deca.  I asked him "you know you I am not competing anymore...right?"  He just said that athletes respond better to those levels...even when they are done with their sports.  Thats a big reason why I never did that shit till now...I cant imagine how many times a week people are sticking themselves with needles.  It takes me a few mins to just do the one shot I am doing now.

So, 120gms of carbs on all other days but sun and tues?  How high do you go on those days?  For me...(as you saw in my one diet that I posted)..I eat like that all week (cycling carbs)..then sunday I just blow it out.

i dont really know how many carbs i take in on those days... but i'd say between 350-400 or something like that... for breakfast i eat half a box of raisin bran... at work i keep an apple in case i go hypo (i take about 10 iu of humalin r 30 minutes before breakfast or so... gonna go up another 5 this week)... then i have my two buns with lunch... then i drink around 750 ml of cranberry grapefruit juice while working out cuz i take another 20 iu of slin 30 minutes before my workout... then i eat half a box of fruity pebbles or honey smacks an hour or two after workout... and that's it.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: hawkmoon on March 10, 2011, 04:34:06 PM
absolutely...only gaijin would do such a thing

I did a contest here (Japan).
I was the only guy that has to piss in a cup...

Whole thing was a joke...
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on March 10, 2011, 04:35:21 PM
So Buselmo when are you gonna get your lower body in as good of shape as your upper body  ;)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Alex23 on March 10, 2011, 04:46:49 PM
for a guy who was kissing my ass in PM's after i called you out, you sure are talking big now that the day has come and gone.
A23 = my bitch and a coward, and the whole board knows it.
 :D

If it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll be whatever you want me to be.

However you disappointed me by promising to show up and not following through.

I honestly think you are a scared individual who hurts others to feel better about himself. The reality is you are afraid to show who your are to avoid the inner reality check you so desperately need.

Individuals proud of their potential and accomplishments are the first to share and inspire others. I hope you soon come to closure and start feeling better about yourself.

GodSpeed.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: no one on March 11, 2011, 06:54:44 AM
If it makes you feel better about yourself, I'll be whatever you want me to be.

However you disappointed me by promising to show up and not following through.

I honestly think you are a scared individual who hurts others to feel better about himself. The reality is you are afraid to show who your are to avoid the inner reality check you so desperately need.

Individuals proud of their potential and accomplishments are the first to share and inspire others. I hope you soon come to closure and start feeling better about yourself.

GodSpeed.

thank you for caring enough to post this, my bitch.
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 11, 2011, 07:04:23 AM
I did a contest here (Japan).
I was the only guy that has to piss in a cup...

Whole thing was a joke...

Only gaijin in the contest right?
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: local hero on March 11, 2011, 07:54:31 AM
you can tell all the guys who've trained for a long time, almost everyone takes the same journey, slamming the big weights etc,,, and almost all end up training a little lighter and slower in the end, ruing the days they went too heavy for too long
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 11, 2011, 09:49:17 PM
I did a contest here (Japan).
I was the only guy that has to piss in a cup...

Whole thing was a joke...

Japanese would NEVER do steroids, that's why they don't even test them, only Gaijin would do such a thing.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 11, 2011, 09:55:08 PM
Japanese would NEVER do steroids, that's why they don't even test them, only Gaijin would do such a thing.  ::) ::) ::)

Yeah Mr Nippon doesnt need steroids, his genetics are so amazing ::) being 4ft tall = best genetics ever ::)

Where is musclecenter to tell us how all Japanese musclemen are natural ::)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: DK II on March 11, 2011, 09:58:48 PM
Yeah Mr Nippon doesnt need steroids, his genetics are so amazing ::) being 4ft tall = best genetics ever ::)

Where is musclecenter to tell us how all Japanese musclemen are natural ::)

Japanese people in general have superb genetics for bodybuilding, they blow up to 90kg @ 6% bf easily naturally.  ::) ::)
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: buselmo on March 11, 2011, 10:21:37 PM
So Buselmo when are you gonna get your lower body in as good of shape as your upper body  ;)

never  :P

women don't know the difference between 'shredded' legs and 'muscular' legs... so why bother  :P
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: Schmoe Buster on March 11, 2011, 10:23:05 PM
never  :P

women don't know the difference between 'shredded' legs and 'muscular' legs... so why bother  :P

True, only schmoes care about legs ;D
Title: Re: 6 meals a day and proper macros my ass! LOL!
Post by: flexingtonsteele on March 12, 2011, 12:44:21 AM
never  :P

women don't know the difference between 'shredded' legs and 'muscular' legs... so why bother  :P

LOL.

I cant argue with that.