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only less then 200 votes behind that stupid bitch.
We've come a looooong way though.
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Bachmann 4823
Ron PAul 4671
TPaw 2293
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only 200 votes behind that stupid bitch.
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you and your stupid eye rolls. You must have 20,000 posts of just eye rolls.
It's no shock that you like her better than paul. She does have a bit of that neocon thing going on.
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you and your stupid eye rolls. You must have 20,000 posts of just eye rolls.
It's no shock that you like her better than paul. She does have a bit of that neocon thing going on.
You, can suck an egg. :) Eyeroll was perfectly appropriate. No need to talk about a woman like that, especially when it's just because you disagree with her politics.
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I bet you still think people voted more then once for Paul, just like them online polls. Lol
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you and your stupid eye rolls. You must have 20,000 posts of just eye rolls.
It's no shock that you like her better than paul. She does have a bit of that neocon thing going on.
This is what really does it for him.
Sexy.
(http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/files/2011/08/Corndog1-384x288.jpg)
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You, can suck an egg. :) Eyeroll was perfectly appropriate. No need to talk about a woman like that, especially when it's just because you disagree with her politics.
did you just tell me to go suck an egg lol.... ohhhhhh ouch lol... :D
got some more eye rolls?
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I bet you still think people voted more then once for Paul, just like them online polls. Lol
Nope. I think he did a great job of rallying supporters, spent a lot of money, and made a respectable showing.
Does that justify talking about a woman the way you did? No. It's okay to disagree with someone's politics without attacking them personally.
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And no, I don't place much stock in the online polls showing Ron Paul blowing out the competition. I just look at the actual voting results in primaries and caucuses, which showed in 2008 that the online polls were meaningless.
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I bet you still think people voted more then once for Paul, just like them online polls. Lol
it cracks me up how he thinks it's all just a small group of supporters who manage on doing all this. I thought BB wasn't into conspiracies but he's spun a good one about Ron Paul supporters. They're all extremely rich judging by how much money this tiny group donates to Paul. And they sure get around. Just about every poll and the shear number of pages on the net in support of him. He was cheered more in the last debate than any other candidate, but it's just a few people that manage all of this all over America lol...
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you and your stupid eye rolls. You must have 20,000 posts of just eye rolls.
It's no shock that you like her better than paul. She does have a bit of that neocon thing going on.
this
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You, can suck an egg. :) Eyeroll was perfectly appropriate. No need to talk about a woman like that, especially when it's just because you disagree with her politics.
No, she is a dumb bitch.
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Nope. I think he did a great job of rallying supporters, spent a lot of money, and made a respectable showing.
Does that justify talking a woman the way you did? No. It's okay to disagree with someone's politics without attacking them personally.
She is a stupid bitch. A bailout loving, Patriot Act embracing bonehead. Talk and actions arent the same thing.
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Nope. I think he did a great job of rallying supporters, spent a lot of money, and made a respectable showing.
Does that justify talking about a woman the way you did? No. It's okay to disagree with someone's politics without attacking them personally.
You're such a girl. You should go to the girl board and stay there. You'd fit in much better.
I bet you're a log cabin republican!!
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I just don't get the attraction of Bachmann to voters. She, along with other repubs, pretty much say they are ready to go to war with Iran at a drop of a hat. I am tired of these threats of war that gets us nowhere. If we have to go in somewhere lets at least take over the country and rape it for all it's worth.
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She is a stupid bitch. A bailout loving, Patriot Act embracing bonehead. Talk and actions arent the same thing.
I see. You disagree with her political views and are incapable of discussing them without attacking her personally. ::)
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She is a stupid bitch. A bailout loving, Patriot Act embracing bonehead. Talk and actions arent the same thing.
I think he respects her more for the issues you listed. He's a neocon (liberal), he needs to be taken care of, and protected by his almighty government.
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it cracks me up how he thinks it's all just a small group of supporters who manage on doing all this. I thought BB wasn't into conspiracies but he's spun a good one about Ron Paul supporters. They're all extremely rich judging by how much money this tiny group donates to Paul. And they sure get around. Just about every poll and the shear number of pages on the net in support of him. He was cheered more in the last debate than any other candidate, but it's just a few people that manage all of this all over America lol...
They can't deny us this time around. The more they try the more we will fight back! WOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!
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You're such a girl. You should go to the girl board and stay there. You'd fit in much better.
I bet you're a log cabin republican!!
LOL! You should hang out on the Conspiracy Theories board and wax eloquent about the evil 911 conspiracy, 911 Troofer. :)
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I just don't get the attraction of Bachmann to voters. She, along with other repubs, pretty much say they are ready to go to war with Iran at a drop of a hat. I am tired of these threats of war that gets us nowhere. If we have to go in somewhere lets at least take over the country and rape it for all it's worth.
That's why I advocate invading Mexico. :)
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LOL! You should hang out on the Conspiracy Theories board and wax eloquent about the evil 911 conspiracy, 911 Troofer. :)
haha! Good idea!
Off to the Conspiracy board I go with the other men. Now, you get back in the kitchen where you belong!
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haha! Good idea!
Off to the Conspiracy board I go with the other men. Now, you get back in the kitchen where you belong!
I've heard about those things called "kitchens." lol . . . .
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I just don't get the attraction of Bachmann to voters. She, along with other repubs, pretty much say they are ready to go to war with Iran at a drop of a hat. I am tired of these threats of war that gets us nowhere. If we have to go in somewhere lets at least take over the country and rape it for all it's worth.
She definitely went to war with that corn dog, unfortunately she has a big mouth and didn't choke on it.
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I see. You disagree with her political views and are incapable of discussing them without attacking her personally. ::)
as if you run to Obama's defense when people attack him personally lolol... hypocrite.
who cares, if someone calls perry a stupid asshole, Bachmann a stupid bitch or calls Obama a nazi or worse. Last time I checked we were free to do so.
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She definitely went to war with that corn dog, unfortunately she has a big mouth and didn't choke on it.
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I think this is a good thing for RP. Once Bachmann starts to get grilled like Palin did she will buckle and become a laughing stock. The great Ron Paul will stick to his guns and never deviate from what he has been saying for 30 years. He just needs to step up on the negative ad campaigns, unfortunately. I wish he wouldn't have to resort to that but the voters are too stupid to respond to anything else.
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LOL! You should hang out on the Conspiracy Theories board and wax eloquent about the evil 911 conspiracy, 911 Troofer. :)
you're the one that's got this big conspiracy theory over Ron Paul Supporters. The CT you wove around that is lol funny.
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I've heard about those things called "kitchens." lol . . . .
I'm sorry, I can't not like you! haha ;D
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as if you run to Obama's defense when people attack him personally lolol... hypocrite.
who cares, if someone calls perry a stupid asshole, Bachmann a stupid bitch or calls Obama a nazi or worse. Last time I checked we were free to do so.
Yawn. ::) I was actually just doing that the other day. I created a thread on here a long time ago about how political discourse has gone from right vs. wrong to good vs. evil. It's an unfortunate part of the process.
And yes, you or anyone else are free to talk like an unintelligent caveman if you want to, just like I'm free to criticize people for doing so. That's one of the great things about this country: you have the right to make a fool of yourself. :)
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She voted against tarp fools.
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you're the one that's got this big conspiracy theory over Ron Paul Supporters. The CT you wove around that is lol funny.
Ok. Whatever you say. I just look at the actual voting results. What's really funny is how some fanatics were talking about how the man was dominating online polls during the 2008 cycle, and he didn't do nearly as well on election days.
I think he'll do better this time around, but anyone looking at the numbers objectively can see there is no way his actual support mirrors some of these online polls. But we'll find out again when the primary season starts.
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Yawn. ::) I was actually just doing that the other day. I created a thread on here a long time ago about how political discourse has gone from right vs. wrong to good vs. evil. It's an unfortunate part of the process.
And yes, you or anyone else are free to talk like an unintelligent caveman if you want to, just like I'm free to criticize people for doing so. That's one of the great things about this country: you have the right to make a fool of yourself. :)
you know BB is getting upset when he adds a yawn to his eye roll ;D
BB, newsflash for you, this isn't anything new in American Politics like you seem to think it is. If anything it's actually toned down from what it was. It's on message boards now, in the 1800's this stuff, "good vs. evil" was often published.
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She voted against tarp fools.
She voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
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I like ron paul, but jeez people get a grip. He did great here essentially tying for first.
Trashing bachmann? Fine. She is still better than obama, romney, huntsman, santorum, and pawlenty.
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Forget all the other issues, you would have to be a fool to vote for anyone that supported the patriot act.
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She voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
and her foriegn policy is pretty neocon. I like some of the stuff she says and does, but it doesn't all of a sudden make her better than Paul. Paul was also against tarp so I don't know what 3333's point is lol..
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She voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
She's a total phony. Can't people hear that in her voice? God, she makes me cringe just as much as when I hear Obama.
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you know BB is getting upset when he adds a yawn to his eye roll ;D
BB, newsflash for you, this isn't anything new in American Politics like you seem to think it is. If anything it's actually toned down from what it was. It's on message boards now, in the 1800's this stuff, "good vs. evil" was often published.
Oh yes, I'm quite upset. lol . . .
The climate has changed. It's true there has been an element of nastiness in politics throughout our history, but that was the exception, not the rule. You should read up on the Lincoln/Douglas debates. There were some personal attacks, but by and large they talked about the issues, and it involved arguably the most controversial issue in American history.
Things really started to spiral during the Clinton years. Do you remember the Clinton Chronicles? A "documentary" accusing Clinton of murdering opponents? There is an article from about 2000 where a guy (and not some crazy nut) wrote an article claiming Bill Clinton was the Anti-Christ. ::)
I have definitely seen a trend the past twenty years.
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I like ron paul, but jeez people get a grip. He did great here essentially tying for first.
Trashing bachmann? Fine. She is still better than obama, romney, huntsman, santorum, and pawlenty.
Is this your first primary or did you just forget that this often happens. Is there some sort of immunity clause for Bachmann lol.
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She's a total phony. Can't people hear that in her voice? God, she makes me cringe just as much as when I hear Obama.
Yes!
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She voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
This true 333333?
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Is it just me or is that one over sized corn dog in her mouth?
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Oh yes, I'm quite upset. lol . . .
The climate has changed. It's true there has been an element of nastiness in politics throughout our history, but that was the exception, not the rule. You should read up on the Lincoln/Douglas debates. There were some personal attacks, but by and large they talked about the issues, and it involved arguably the most controversial issue in American history.
Things really started to spiral during the Clinton years. Do you remember the Clinton Chronicles? A "documentary" accusing Clinton of murdering opponents? There is an article from about 2000 where a guy (and not some crazy nut) wrote an article claiming Bill Clinton was the Anti-Christ. ::)
I have definitely seen a trend the past twenty years.
Yeah, it all started to spiral during the Clinton years!
Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
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I like ron paul, but jeez people get a grip. He did great here essentially tying for first.
Trashing bachmann? Fine. She is still better than obama, romney, huntsman, santorum, and pawlenty.
Good luck with that.
Just to put both Bachmann's and Paul's results in context, Pat Robertson won the Iowa poll years ago. This poll doesn't indicate who will win, or likely win, the nomination. But it can end people's campaigns, like Pawlenty. He needs to quit.
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Yeah, it all started to spiral during the Clinton years!
Adams' men called Vice President Jefferson "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father."
It's true there has been an element of nastiness in politics throughout our history . . . .
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This true 333333?
Bump
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Things really started to spiral during the Clinton years.
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Absolutely true.
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I'm on my phone. Have no idea and never heard of that.
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She voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Pip can you provide link or proof?
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Absolutely true.
You're insinuating they hadn't spiraled before the Clinton years which isn't true.
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Pip can you provide link or proof?
http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
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You're insinuating they hadn't spiraled before the Clinton years which isn't true.
It was the exception, not the rule. The information age has had a big impact too.
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Oh yes, I'm quite upset. lol . . .
The climate has changed. It's true there has been an element of nastiness in politics throughout our history, but that was the exception, not the rule. You should read up on the Lincoln/Douglas debates. There were some personal attacks, but by and large they talked about the issues, and it involved arguably the most controversial issue in American history.
Things really started to spiral during the Clinton years. Do you remember the Clinton Chronicles? A "documentary" accusing Clinton of murdering opponents? There is an article from about 2000 where a guy (and not some crazy nut) wrote an article claiming Bill Clinton was the Anti-Christ. ::)
I have definitely seen a trend the past twenty years.
You're going to compare past candidate debates to what is said on today's message boards lol? How about you go back and look at the stuff that was published, some it got pretty mean in what was suggested. Some of the cartoons got pretty nasty too. whole books were publish to spew dirt against a candidate or president. Plus they were able to get away with complete lies easier back then. Lincoln was called the devil, an anti-christ and all that too.
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Obama and his admn have called me a bitter clinger, a potential terrorist, a hostage taker, etc.
Yeah politics has been raw. Lol.
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It was the exception, not the rule.
So what, it had "spiraled" long before Clinton.
You've got a god given gift for bullshiting people, I must say.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
Hahahahahaahahahahaahhaa h
God told her to be a socialist?
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And you guys think she's going to be different? Hahahaahahahaahah
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Hahahahahaahahahahaahhaah
God told her to be a socialist?
haha
I've honestly tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, because I so dislike these liberals that automatically hate her and Palin. I can't though, she's an ignorant bitch. No way around that fact.
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You're going to compare past candidate debates to what is said on today's message boards lol? How about you go back and look at the stuff that was published, some it got pretty mean in what was suggested. Some of the cartoons got pretty nasty too. whole books were publish to spew dirt against a candidate or president. Plus they were able to get away with complete lies easier back then. Lincoln was called the devil, an anti-christ and all that too.
I'm talking about degree and frequency. Also, as I mentioned a minute ago, the information age has changed things. Online news, tabloid, websites, blogs, etc.
I created a left-wing hate speech thread that has numerous examples of how people are demonized because they have a different political viewpoint.
What's funny is I was just discussing this issue with an Obama-bot the other day. She actually told me that the "vitriol" directed against Obama is unprecedented. I was trying to give her examples of what happened with Clinton and Bush II, but it didn't go very well. lol . . .
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So what, it had "spiraled" long before Clinton.
You've got a god given gift for bullshiting people, I must say.
No it didn't. Go do some reading. ::)
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No it didn't. Go do some reading. ::)
I don't need to, you honestly crack me up!!! ;D
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And you guys think she's going to be different? Hahahaahahahaahah
Different than Obama? No question. Some kind of savior? No way. None of the candidates running is some kind of Messiah.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
Bump for 333333
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I don't need to, you honestly crack me up!!! ;D
This board is great entertainment. :)
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Different than Obama? No question. Some kind of savior? No way. None of the candidates running is some kind of Messiah.
Different than the whole bunch. OB is in a league of his own. The mear fact she voted for this tells me she is as 333333 might put it.... A commy traitor socialist....nice woman from Brooklyn.
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How can she even claim to be a conservative? Does the tea party know? Hahahahaah
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Different than the whole bunch. OB is in a league of his own. The mear fact she voted for this tells me she is as 333333 might put it.... A commy traitor socialist....nice woman from Brooklyn.
lol. :) I think she has been pretty consistent. Not perfect, but consistent. I'm not excited about anyone in the race, although I like what I read about Perry's background today.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
Didn't she also request a lot of stim money? If I remember right she did.
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Hahahahahaahahahahaahhaah
God told her to be a socialist?
where was that?
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lol. :) I think she has been pretty consistent. Not perfect, but consistent. I'm not excited about anyone in the race, although I like what I read about Perry's background today.
I don't know maybe in some areas she is. I should read through that link. But to vote yes to 193 billion in more stimulus, makes her inconsistent in my eyes when you consider the amount.
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I'm talking about degree and frequency. Also, as I mentioned a minute ago, the information age has changed things. Online news, tabloid, websites, blogs, etc.
I created a left-wing hate speech thread that has numerous examples of how people are demonized because they have a different political viewpoint.
What's funny is I was just discussing this issue with an Obama-bot the other day. She actually told me that the "vitriol" directed against Obama is unprecedented. I was trying to give her examples of what happened with Clinton and Bush II, but it didn't go very well. lol . . .
yes and thanks to the way information travels today the impact of lies and attacks is less. People can respond right away. Back then when something was published and circulated, it wasn't so easy to defend against. The shit flew plenty back then. It's odd that you think it was less. Well there were a lot less people so it was probably less in that regard, that's not much of a defense.
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Lmao at this thread. Any gop candidate will be judged in realtion to obama.
Anyone even remotely comparing bachmann to obama is delusional.
Ron paul did great - but holy fuck - why the bachmann hate? Especially from those of you who are silent on the shit bama does that is a million times worse?
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Michele Bachmann Repeatedly Sought Stimulus, EPA, Other Government Funds
http://www.hcdem.org/bboard/?p=432
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where was that?
We had this big discussion/debate about a month ago about MB having conversations with god. It's on a thread some place. I am sure 33333's skills at finding old threads could find it. I got indirectly accused of having a double standard. Hahahaahhahahaha. Michelle looks like she has the double standard market covered for now.
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Lmao at this thread. Any gop candidate will be judged in realtion to obama.
Anyone even remotely comparing bachmann to obama is delusional.
Ron paul did great - but holy fuck - why the bachmann hate? Especially from those of you who are silent on the shit bama does that is a million times worse?
wow, you wish... this shit happens in primaries, end of story.
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You tools crack me up. You are going on and on about OB's spending and you talk about how great Bachman is and she voted for 193 billion in stimulus!
hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahah
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If her constituents are paying for those funds and programs, she has an obligation to secure those funds. Nothing inconsistent at all.
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If her constituents are paying for those funds and programs, she has an obligation to secure those funds. Nothing inconsistent at all.
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Your savior is a hypocrite.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahaha haha
Delusional commy who talks with God!
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haha
I've honestly tried to give her the benefit of the doubt, because I so dislike these liberals that automatically hate her and Palin. I can't though, she's an ignorant bitch. No way around that fact.
She still has a way to go before she gets a pass from me.
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I don't know maybe in some areas she is. I should read through that link. But to vote yes to 193 billion in more stimulus, makes her inconsistent in my eyes when you consider the amount.
Definitely a hypocrite on the stimulus if she voted to extend it. Would like to hear her explanation.
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lol. :) I think she has been pretty consistent. Not perfect, but consistent. I'm not excited about anyone in the race, although I like what I read about Perry's background today.
What about it turns your crank?
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What about it turns your crank?
? Not sure what you're asking?
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? Not sure what you're asking?
lol. :) although I like what I read about Perry's background today.
What is it that you like about his background?
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If her constituents are paying for those funds and programs, she has an obligation to secure those funds. Nothing inconsistent at all.
yea but when she also voted for it? you can't just add that as a defense. Not to mention didn't you also talk up the republicans who refused to accept stim money? I thought you did but maybe it was someone else.
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Paul can beat Obama. She has no chance in hell.
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yea but when she also voted for it? you can't just add that as a defense. Not to mention didn't you also talk up the republicans who refused to accept stim money? I thought you did but maybe it was someone else.
No it's ok because she talks with god, fostered 600 children, and she's a REPUBLICAN.
Hahahhahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahah
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What is it that you like about his background?
His military experience, years as a successful governor of a large state, his views on taxes and the role of government, his opposition to the stimulus and refusal to take stimulus money, his toughness on crime, his faith, being a family man, the performance of the Texas economy during the countrywide recession.
It really is an impressive background. I want to hear what he has to say as he campaigns before I support him.
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She's a commy sleeper agent.
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This thing about RP is that you know where he stands on the issues and he isn't going to flip flop. Not to mention that he's a true Libertarian and would actually be working to keep government off our backs.
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The media is going to crush ron paul when they start w the scare tactics about medicare, medicade, ss, etc.
Its going to be pump and dump like you can't believe.
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His military experience, years as a successful governor of a large state, his views on taxes and the role of government, his opposition to the stimulus and refusal to take stimulus money, his toughness on crime, his faith, being a family man, the performance of the Texas economy during the countrywide recession.
It really is an impressive background. I want to hear what he has to say as he campaigns before I support him.
Has nothing to do with running a country. Toughness on crime means writing a blank check for a failed drug war. His faith is a personal choice and has no room in how government should be ran. A family man...LOL...so was Clinton. Isn't he being accused of homosexual activities? Not saying it's true but where there is smoke there is fire.
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Has nothing to do with running a country. Toughness on crime means writing a blank check for a failed drug war. His faith is a personal choice and has no room in how government should be ran. A family man...LOL...so was Clinton. Isn't he being accused of homosexual activities? Not saying it's true but where there is smoke there is fire.
You have to decide what you think are important qualities for your political leaders. If faith, a wife, and kids are not important to you, then more power to you. They are important considerations for me. Not the most important, and not deal breakers, but definitely something I consider.
Didn't say anything about the drug war. He supports the death penalty, like I do. He has pulled the trigger on the ultimate punishment numerous times. He'll probably support law enforcement, which is an important part of our society.
Clinton was not a dedicated family man. Jennifer Flowers held her press conference before he was elected. Everyone knew the man was sleeping around.
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You have to decide what you think are important qualities for your political leaders. If faith, a wife, and kids are not important to you, then more power to you. They are important considerations for me. Not the most important, and not deal breakers, but definitely something I consider.
Didn't say anything about the drug war. He supports the death penalty, like I do. He has pulled the trigger on the ultimate punishment numerous times. He'll probably support law enforcement, which is an important part of our society.
Clinton was not a dedicated family man. Jennifer Flowers held her press conference before he was elected. Everyone knew the man was sleeping around.
Why on earth is faith important in a political leader to you? What does faith have anything to do with being an effective political leader? ???
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Why on earth is faith important in a political leader to you? What does faith have anything to do with being an effective political leader? ???
I'd rather have a leader who is experienced, smart, has common sense, a good moral compass, and has relationship with God. I want someone who has prayer as part of his life. Who seeks guidance in all that they do. Just like Obama and Ron Paul. :) People of faith are grounded. They are humble. They listen to advice. They are compassionate. They are tough. Not all of them, of course, but that's what you should get from a person of faith. Those are all great leadership qualities.
A leader who is a man of faith is also in line with the vast majority of the country.
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I'd rather have a leader who is experienced, smart, has common sense, a good moral compass, and has relationship with God. I want someone who has prayer as part of his life. Who seeks guidance in all that they do. Just like Obama and Ron Paul. :) People of faith are grounded. They are humble. They listen to advice. They are compassionate. They are tough. Not all of them, of course, but that's what you should get from a person of faith. Those are all great leadership qualities.
A leader who is a man of faith is also in line with the vast majority of the country.
Paul is a man of faith but keeps it to himself, which is best. Obama is not a man of faith. What on earth is a relationship with God? How is that even a demonstrable quality for someone to have, other than saying he has a relationship with God? I suspect the last point is key; since most people in the country are religious Christians they want to be able to 'identify' with a leader. It makes no sense to me but that is the reason nonbelieving politicians have to pay lip service to religion.
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Lmfao at obama voters now on the ron paul bandwagon.
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Paul is a man of faith but keeps it to himself, which is best. Obama is not a man of faith. What on earth is a relationship with God? How is that even a demonstrable quality for someone to have, other than saying he has a relationship with God? I suspect the last point is key; since most people in the country are religious Christians they want to be able to 'identify' with a leader. It makes no sense to me but that is the reason nonbelieving politicians have to pay lip service to religion.
I don't think political leaders should be wearing their religion on their sleeves, but I don't have a problem with them talking about it on the campaign. We ought to know where they stand, so people can make informed choices.
I agree with your comments about identifying with a leader. That's normal.
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Lmfao at obama voters now on the ron paul bandwagon.
As a bandwagon jumper yourSelf you should know how they feel. :D
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Really - I remember being there at his launch of his campaign in nyc months ago and donating money to rand as well.
You?
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Really - I remember being there at his launch of his campaign in nyc months ago and donating money to rand as well.
You?
And i have jumped on his wagon when? ;)
Maybe you can show me a post Mr. Trump-is-my-savior. ;D
Right now, I don't like anyone who is running save Perry whom I don't know enough about. But as the race heats up we will all know morE.
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Lmfao at obama voters now on the ron paul bandwagon.
who are you talking about because I can show you were I was a Ron Paul supporter before the 2008 general election. I'll be happy to bump threads. I also wasn't the only person who liked Paul but ended up voting for Obama. Paul actually had quite a bit of support from people that are left of center. I tried to point that out several times with actual examples but usually got ignored.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=162394.msg2288525#msg2288525
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=183291.msg2569525#msg2569525
I have a shit load of posts supporting Paul, I can bump as many as you want.
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who are you talking about because I can show you were I was a Ron Paul supporter before the 2008 general election. I'll be happy to bump threads. I also wasn't the only person who liked Paul but ended up voting for Obama. Paul actually had quite a bit of support from people that are left of center. I tried to point that out several times with actual examples but usually got ignored.
same here. I was devastated RP didn't get the nod but I sure as hell wasn't going to vote for McSame. I thought at least we could try something different with Obama but it turned out to be a bust. Now we need to get the right guy in there.
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I'm sorry, but you have to be an abject fucking schizo to claim support for Ron Paul and have voted for Obama. Seriously, a more stupid and incoherent judgment call probably does not exist.
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I'm sorry, but you have to be an abject fucking schizo to claim support for Ron Paul and have voted for Obama. Seriously, a more stupid and incoherent judgment call probably does not exist.
3333, the first time you typed "Ron Paul" on this forum was October 03, 2008... Let's not talk about who's jumping on the bandwaggon shall we ;) I posted like crazy in support of Paul. You also fail to put things in perspective. In your mind Satan is black and his name is Obama and we intentionally voted to destroy the planet lol...
Anyway, you can take your bandwaggon accusation and officially shove it up your ass.
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I'm sorry, but you have to be an abject fucking schizo to claim support for Ron Paul and have voted for Obama. Seriously, a more stupid and incoherent judgment call probably does not exist.
coming from the guy that bought into Trump being a powerhouse candidate.
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3333, the first time you typed "Ron Paul" on this forum was October 03, 2008... Let's not talk about who's jumping on the bandwaggon shall we ;) I posted like crazy in support of Paul. You also fail to put things in perspective. In your mind Satan is black and his name is Obama and we intentionally voted to destroy the planet lol...
Anyway, you can take your bandwaggon accusation and officially shove it up your ass.
Ron Paul and Obama are the exact opposites on nearly everything. Please explain how one reconciles in their head supporting the uber statist, the uber big govt tyrant, uber socialist, with a liberatarian.
Sorry, it was all cult of personality with no logic at all.
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http://www.ontheissues.org/house/michele_bachmann.htm
Michele Bachmann on Budget & Economy
Click here for 15 full quotes on Budget & Economy OR background on Budget & Economy.
Voted YES on terminating the Home Affordable mortgage Program. (Mar 2011)
Voted YES on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
Voted NO on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (Mar 2009)
Voted NO on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on monitoring TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief. (Jan 2009)
Voted NO on $15B bailout for GM and Chrysler. (Dec 2008)
Voted NO on $60B stimulus package for jobs, infrastructure, & energy. (Sep 2008)
Voted NO on defining "energy emergency" on federal gas prices. (Jun 2008)
Voted NO on revitalizing severely distressed public housing. (Jan 2008)
Voted NO on regulating the subprime mortgage industry. (Nov 2007)
Balanced Budget Amendment with 3/5 vote to override. (Jan 2009)
Demand a Balanced Budget amendment. (Jul 2010)
Limit federal spending growth to per-capita inflation rate. (Jul 2010)
Member of House Banking Committee. (Mar 2011)
Require a balanced budget, by Constitutional amendment. (Jan 2011)
Ok let's see what that was for ???
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AHAHAHAHAHA I love this thread. A bunch of Republicans Cannibalizing themselves.
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AHAHAHAHAHA I love this thread. A bunch of Republicans Cannibalizing themselves.
I am not a Republican and neither are a lot of people on this thread.
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AHAHAHAHAHA I love this thread. A bunch of Republicans Cannibalizing themselves.
I'm sure you are going to love it even more when Obama goes down worse than Mondale.
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I am not a Republican and neither are a lot of people on this thread.
Bullshit. Oh and Paul DOES NOT keep his faith to himself. He was rambling on about God in Iowa and Abortion not to mention the prayer in schools he tried to pass through as well as voting for the teaching of creationism. So shut it sycophant.
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Bullshit. Oh and Paul DOES NOT keep his faith to himself. He was rambling on about God in Iowa and Abortion not to mention the prayer in schools he tried to pass through as well as voting for the teaching of creationism. So shut it sycophant.
So what? He usually DOES keep it to himself. You just want more war, corporate bailouts and more of the same...Ron Paul offers something different.
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So what? He usually DOES keep it to himself. You just want more war, corporate bailouts and more of the same...Ron Paul offers something different.
No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
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No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
They're not running. Hope this helps too.
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No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
Those flaming socialists are too pussy to primary Obama for fear of being called racist. Typical of the dem party. Guilt ridden white dirtbags who put their racial guilt before the good of the nation.
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Those flaming socialists are too pussy to primary Obama for fear of being called racist. Typical of the dem party. Guilt ridden white dirtbags who put their racial guilt before the good of the nation.
I think Congress would take advantage of Ron Paul and have a field day with him since he is incapable of compromise. While I cannot stand compromise, especially what we have seen since its been entirely Right Wing, getting something done is better than getting nothing done.
It would be interesting to see how many times Congress would have to override a Ron Paul veto though. Great entertainment for sure.
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No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
Lol, I can't think of a better punchline then what you just typed.
What do you you do for a living Adam? I don't recall it ever mentioned. Comedian?
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Lol, I can't think of a better punchline then what you just typed.
What do you you do for a living Adam? I don't recall it ever mentioned. Comedian?
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Most Poopers would prefer Mike Gravel any day of the week. Afterall, he advocates for completely shutting down the IRS from Day one and instilling a National Sales Tax as well as pulling out all troops in 6 months.
Poop Paul offers none of that.
Poopers accept Mike.
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Well doesn't he primary Obama?
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Ron Paul and Obama are the exact opposites on nearly everything. Please explain how one reconciles in their head supporting the uber statist, the uber big govt tyrant, uber socialist, with a liberatarian.
Sorry, it was all cult of personality with no logic at all.
It's about choosing the lesser of the two evils. If Paul was running in the last election, I would have voted for him. I could not bring myself to vote for McCain with Palin, no fucking way. McCain with someone else, depends who.
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Bullshit. Oh and Paul DOES NOT keep his faith to himself. He was rambling on about God in Iowa and Abortion not to mention the prayer in schools he tried to pass through as well as voting for the teaching of creationism. So shut it sycophant.
I haven't heard of him trying to legislate religion. Maybe I should pay more attention, can you show some examples? That will definitely affect my thinking.
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I haven't heard of him trying to legislate religion. Maybe I should pay more attention, can you show some examples? That will definitely affect my thinking.
Fucking Loony. The man hates Science. He also does not believe in Thomas Jefferson`s WALL OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
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Look at this fucking gem. LOLZers
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul148.html
The War on Religion
by Rep. Ron Paul
As we celebrate another Yuletide season, it's hard not to notice that Christmas in America simply doesn't feel the same anymore. Although an overwhelming majority of Americans celebrate Christmas, and those who don't celebrate it overwhelmingly accept and respect our nation's Christmas traditions, a certain shared public sentiment slowly has disappeared. The Christmas spirit, marked by a wonderful feeling of goodwill among men, is in danger of being lost in the ongoing war against religion.
Through perverse court decisions and years of cultural indoctrination, the elitist, secular Left has managed to convince many in our nation that religion must be driven from public view. The justification is always that someone, somewhere, might possibly be offended or feel uncomfortable living in the midst of a largely Christian society, so all must yield to the fragile sensibilities of the few. The ultimate goal of the anti-religious elites is to transform America into a completely secular nation, a nation that is legally and culturally biased against Christianity.
This growing bias explains why many of our wonderful Christmas traditions have been lost. Christmas pageants and plays, including Handel's Messiah, have been banned from schools and community halls. Nativity scenes have been ordered removed from town squares, and even criticized as offensive when placed on private church lawns. Office Christmas parties have become taboo, replaced by colorless seasonal parties to ensure no employees feel threatened by a “hostile environment.” Even wholly non-religious decorations featuring Santa Claus, snowmen, and the like have been called into question as Christmas symbols that might cause discomfort. Earlier this month, firemen near Chicago reluctantly removed Christmas decorations from their firehouse after a complaint by some embittered busybody. Most noticeably, however, the once commonplace refrain of “Merry Christmas” has been replaced by the vague, ubiquitous “Happy Holidays.” But what holiday? Is Christmas some kind of secret, a word that cannot be uttered in public? Why have we allowed the secularists to intimidate us into downplaying our most cherished and meaningful Christian celebration?
The notion of a rigid separation between church and state has no basis in either the text of the Constitution or the writings of our Founding Fathers. On the contrary, our Founders' political views were strongly informed by their religious beliefs. Certainly the drafters of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, both replete with references to God, would be aghast at the federal government's hostility to religion. The establishment clause of the First Amendment was simply intended to forbid the creation of an official state church like the Church of England, not to drive religion out of public life.
The Founding Fathers envisioned a robustly Christian yet religiously tolerant America, with churches serving as vital institutions that would eclipse the state in importance. Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage. Christmas itself may soon be a casualty of that war.
December 30, 2003
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http://www.irregulartimes.com/ronpaulseparation.html
Ron Paul Seeks to Destroy
Separation of Church and State
Ron Paul, as a libertarian, claims to value liberty and to be dedicated to the protection of the liberties guaranteed in the Constitution. In truth, however, Congressman Paul has worked to devalue the liberty guaranteed in the First Amendment to the Constitution, part of the Bill of Rights.
Ron Paul has worked to hobble the freedom of religion, claiming that there should be no separation of Church and State in American government. In a speech in 2002 explaining his introduction of legislation that would forbid American federal district courts and federal claims courts from hearing cases in which citizens claim to have had their religious freedom violated, Representative Paul complained,
"In case after case, the Supreme Court has used the infamous 'Separation of Church and State' metaphor to uphold court decisions that allow the federal government to intrude upon and deprive citizens of their religious liberty."
Ron Paul further complained in that speech that the government ought not to be blocked from establishing official prayers in schools and at public events, and promoting the Old Testament as the source of American law in courthouses through the exclusive display of the Ten Commandments. In doing so, Ron Paul sided with radical right wing Christian zealots who seek theocracy, like Judge Roy Moore from Alabama.
Ron Paul's legislation, if enacted, would have enabled a two-class system of rights in America, with members of majority religious groups able to establish special rights to enforce their beliefs through the power of government institutions, and others unable to protect their right to not participate in the majority's religious rituals through the constitutionally-guaranteed access to the courts.
The separation of Church and State is not, as Ron Paul claims, infamous. It is celebrated by those who truly cherish liberty. The separation of Church and State has been invaluable in protecting the citizens of the United States of America from the establishment of a tyrannical theocracy of the sort envisioned by many of Ron Paul's Republican political allies. (Source: Congressional Record, June 13, 2002)
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The man is oblivious to Science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
Climate change
In an October 2007 interview, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization."[226] He declined to name any particular environmental heroes and affirmed no special environmental achievements other than his educating the people about free-market solutions rather than "government expenditures and special-interest politics."[227]
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Jeeeze Adam, you may know hOw to read but you sure as hell don't know how to understand what's being said.
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POOP PAUL would not mind BANNING ATHEIST FROM PUBLIC OFFICE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion" from the jurisdiction of federal courts.[143] If made law, this provision would purportedly permit state, county, and local governments to decide whether to allow displays of religious text and imagery and whether to ban atheists from public office, but would not interfere with the application of relevant federal law.
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Jeeeze Adam, you may know hOw to read but you sure as he'll don't know how to understand what's being said.
The guy is a religious moron plain and simple. Sorry, the facts are the facts.
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POOP PAUL would not mind BANNING ATHEIST FROM PUBLIC OFFICE.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul
In 2005, Paul introduced the We the People Act, which would have removed "any claim involving the laws, regulations, or policies of any State or unit of local government relating to the free exercise or establishment of religion" from the jurisdiction of federal courts.[143] If made law, this provision would purportedly permit state, county, and local governments to decide whether to allow displays of religious text and imagery and whether to ban atheists from public office, but would not interfere with the application of relevant federal law.
purportedly: assuming, supposedly
You do alot of this and that is where you fail understanding many of his positions.
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Climate change
In an October 2007 interview, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization."[226] He declined to name any particular environmental heroes and affirmed no special environmental achievements other than his educating the people about free-market solutions rather than "government expenditures and special-interest politics."[
You live in the "provided by government" world and I'll live in the "free market world", we'll see what your life is like in 20 years and we'll see what mine is like. I bet you mine is better then yours, tenfold.
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Climate change
In an October 2007 interview, Paul held that climate change is not a "major problem threatening civilization."[226] He declined to name any particular environmental heroes and affirmed no special environmental achievements other than his educating the people about free-market solutions rather than "government expenditures and special-interest politics."[
You live in the "provided by government" world and I'll live in the "free market world", we'll see what your life is like in 20 years and we'll see what mine is like. I bet you mine is better then yours, tenfold.
There are some things that the free market has NO INTEREST IN FIXING WHATSOEVER. Climate Change, Healthcare and the Banking Industry are some of the biggest the Free Market will do nothing to fix or remedy.
With that said, you Poop Paulers yell FREE MARKET FREE MARKET from the top of your lungs than you get all pissed when Fox News, which is a FREE MARKET CORPORATION wants to silence and get rid of Ron Paul and limit his time. Why do they not get to exhibit their Free Market rights. They should be able to permanently ban Ron Paul from ever appearing on their network right? Yet you Pooptards squeal at this. Kind of amusing.
Then....There is a whole sector of Pooptards like Deicide who despise Corporatism, yet the very idea and tenants of FREE MARKET principles sole purposes are to benefit large Corporations.
Pooptards really don`t have any firm beliefs or grounding. They hear words like Freedom and Liberty and their ears perk up. Too bad Poop Paul has no intention of allowing either.
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There are some things that the free market has NO INTEREST IN FIXING WHATSOEVER. Climate Change, Healthcare and the Banking Industry are some of the biggest the Free Market will do nothing to fix or remedy.
With that said, you Poop Paulers yell FREE MARKET FREE MARKET from the top of your lungs than you get all pissed when Fox News, which is a FREE MARKET CORPORATION wants to silence and get rid of Ron Paul and limit his time. Why do they not get to exhibit their Free Market rights. They should be able to permanently ban Ron Paul from ever appearing on their network right? Yet you Pooptards squeal at this. Kind of amusing.
Then....There is a whole sector of Pooptards like Deicide who despise Corporatism, yet the very idea and tenants of FREE MARKET principles sole purposes are to benefit large Corporations.
Pooptards really don`t have any firm beliefs or grounding. They hear words like Freedom and Liberty and their ears perk up. Too bad Poop Paul has no intention of allowing either.
FOX has a right to do what they do, just as I and many others have the freedom to voice our anger and expose their tactics. What do you think has been going on the last few years and in case you havent noticed we are gaining more traction despite their attempts to silence us. Whats your point again? Are you suggesting we should just shut up when we feel something is unjust?
What is wrong with corporations that benefit monetarily? I dont have a problem with that. If they are breaking laws they should be dealt with appropriately. You have difficulty making a distinction between crony capitalism and a true free market. They aren't the same thing and making money isn't evil, so again, I don't get what you are driving at.
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Fucking Loony. The man hates Science. He also does not believe in Thomas Jefferson`s WALL OF SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
Thanks, someone should call him on these things in an interview.
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Thanks, someone should call him on these things in an interview.
They won`t because this is mainstream Republican thought. They really are "teh stupid" when it comes to Science, evidence and just plain old hard facts. Its unbelievable really.
And the Pooptards are even worse. They twist themselves into pretzels in order to rationalize Ron Poops irrational stupidity. Wait around here long enough and you will see precisely what I mean.
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They won`t because this is mainstream Republican thought. They really are "teh stupid" when it comes to Science, evidence and just plain old hard facts. Its unbelievable really.
And the Pooptards are even worse. They twist themselves into pretzels in order to rationalize Ron Poops irrational stupidity. Wait around here long enough and you will see precisely what I mean.
Wait around here long enough and you'll see just how irrational Adams hate towards anyone expressing any form of religous/spiritual faith is. I would describe myself as atheistic agnostic but I don't feel threatened at all about his stance on abortion, when life starts, a wish for students to practice Christianity or whatever along those lines. In the grand scheme of things those topics mean little to me when the country is going broke and theres all out blantant corruption in politics.
Adam would die with a hard on if science was allowed to splice a fetus into the skin of an apple if it meant for a juicer fruit. He has no moral compass whatsoever on some issues and a clear disdain for anyone that has one.
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Wait around here long enough and you'll see just how irrational Adams hate towards anyone expressing any form of religous faith is. I would describe myself as atheistic agnostic but I don't feel threatened at all about his stance on abortion, when life starts, a wish for students to practice Christianity or whatever along those lines. In the grand scheme of things those topics mean little to me when the country is going broke and theres all out blantant corruption in politics.
Adam would die with a hard on if science was allowed to splice a fetus into the skin of an apple if it meant for a juicer fruit. He has no moral compass whatsoever on some issues and a clear disdain for anyone that has one.
Religion has NOTHING, Zero to with morality, or a moral compass (whatever that is). Most Republican`s moral compasses point them straight to the men`s room with their pants below their ankles while the country burns to the ground (mostly caused by their policies).
I do not respect any religion. Why should I? There is nothing to respect and it provides humanity with nothing other than a delusion.
Furthermore, Ron Poop is not too terrible, but Obama is still a better choice even though hes probably more Right Wing than Ron Poop these days.
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Am I the only person who realizes that the Iowa Straw Poll has only successfully picked the Republican nomination twice in the past 30 years when they were not the incumbent?
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Religion has NOTHING, Zero to with morality, or a moral compass (whatever that is). Most Republican`s moral compasses point them straight to the men`s room with their pants below their ankles while the country burns to the ground (mostly caused by their policies).
I do not respect any religion. Why should I? There is nothing to respect and it provides humanity with nothing other than a delusion.
Furthermore, Ron Poop is not too terrible, but Obama is still a better choice even though hes probably more Right Wing than Ron Poop these days.
You are nuts. Religion provides at least some prudence and some moral guidance for people that we all need.
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You are nuts. Religion provides at least some prudence and some moral guidance for people that we all need.
So you are saying without Religion they would be trying to kill us all, robbing us at every street corner, raping our girlfriends and wives, looking for babies to use as target practice and the only thing stopping them from doing any of this is Jesus Christ?
Really? If thats the case and the only thing holding them back, these Religious people are more fucked up than any of us could ever imagine.
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So you are saying without Religion they would be trying to kill us all, robbing us at every street corner, raping our girlfriends and wives, looking for babies to use as target practice and the only thing stopping them from doing any of this is Jesus Christ?
Really? If thats the case and the only thing holding them back, these Religious people are more fucked up than any of us could ever imagine.
oh freaking please. Libertine behavior is a disaster for a nation.
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No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
Dennis Kucinich on Ron Paul
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oh freaking please. Libertine behavior is a disaster for a nation.
You do realize empathy and morality have Evolutionary Biological roots as well as from the Zeitgeist of our society?
The most religious people in America at one time were slave owners. So much for that Christian Moral Compass overriding the Zeitgeist eh?
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Dennis Kucinich on Ron Paul
Lllmmmffffaaaoooo.
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You do realize empathy and morality have Evolutionary Biological roots as well as from the Zeitgeist of our society?
The most religious people in America at one time were slave owners. So much for that Christian Moral Compass overriding the Zeitgeist eh?
Yawn. Take your psychobabble elsewhere. If given the choice between religious people v aethist commies and so called humanists with their new age bs, I'll take the religious types any day.
Mind you, I have not stepped foot in church in decades, but I respect their contributions to society.
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Lllmmmffffaaaoooo.
This is old news you know. Personally I think Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party. Too bad there are zero others in his party like him. All of your favorites, Bachmann, Palin and such are the complete opposites.
How do you process that in your brain and reconcile that? Ron Paul and Palin/Bachmann are polar opposites. You can`t be for Paul and then be for Bachmann or Palin or anyone else in the Republican Party. It just doesn`t work and it means you really have no firm principles.
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Yawn. Take your psychobabble elsewhere. If given the choice between religious people v aethist commies and so called humanists with their new age bs, I'll take the religious types any day.
Mind you, I have not stepped foot in church in decades, but I respect their contributions to society.
What Contributions? ???
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This is old news you know. Personally I think Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party. Too bad there are zero others in his party like him. All of your favorites, Bachmann, Palin and such are the complete opposites.
How do you process that in your brain and reconcile that? Ron Paul and Palin/Bachmann are polar opposites. You can`t be for Paul and then be for Bachmann or Palin or anyone else in the Republican Party. It just doesn`t work and it means you really have no firm principles.
Why is that? I don't expect perfection or anything close.
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What Contributions? ???
Food pantries, community orgs, community help and assistance, mentors, etc etc etc
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Wait around here long enough and you'll see just how irrational Adams hate towards anyone expressing any form of religous/spiritual faith is. I would describe myself as atheistic agnostic but I don't feel threatened at all about his stance on abortion, when life starts, a wish for students to practice Christianity or whatever along those lines. In the grand scheme of things those topics mean little to me when the country is going broke and theres all out blantant corruption in politics.
Adam would die with a hard on if science was allowed to splice a fetus into the skin of an apple if it meant for a juicer fruit. He has no moral compass whatsoever on some issues and a clear disdain for anyone that has one.
You do realize that the only way you are going to get Ron Paul elected is to convince people like me, True Progressives who realize Obama is pretty much Right Wing, Right of Center and may want an alternative. Your Republican base will never vote for Paul en Masse EVER. NEVER NEVER NEVER. But if you can pick up enough disgruntled Progressives and Left Leaning Independents, than Paul does have a viable chance.
He has NO CHANCE, ZERO CHANCE if you are just going to rely on the Republican Base. The Republican Base are nothing but incredibly stupid morons who are all over the map and not near supportive of Ron Paul.
You do realize this right?
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Food pantries, community orgs, community help and assistance, mentors, etc etc etc
Uh, Non-Religious organizations do all of that without the Tom-Foolery and Bullshit expectancy of new converts. In fact, its even more noble when its not motivated by Religion, which is an entirely selfish motive.
Religion has not done much for mankind other than stymie it in all areas, especially when it comes to knowledge. Our society, Globally would be SO MUCH further without The Dark Ages and Muslim Wars etc...
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I grew up with 10 years of catholic school.
In my experience, the people who scream the most about religion are usually the most frustrated, angry, and in sexual denial of some sort. Guilt is a huge part of it.
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You do realize that the only way you are going to get Ron Paul elected is to convince people like me, True Progressives who realize Obama is pretty much Right Wing, Right of Center and may want an alternative. Your Republican base will never vote for Paul en Masse EVER. NEVER NEVER NEVER. But if you can pick up enough disgruntled Progressives and Left Leaning Independents, than Paul does have a viable chance.
He has NO CHANCE, ZERO CHANCE if you are just going to rely on the Republican Base. The Republican Base are nothing but incredibly stupid morons who are all over the map and not near supportive of Ron Paul.
You do realize this right?
Nonsense. He has to convince Republicans to vote for him in primaries and caucuses. Liberals are not going to get the man through the primary.
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I do not respect any religion. Why should I? There is nothing to respect and it provides humanity with nothing other than a delusion.
See what I mean. Adam is very clear that no good can come from anyone that does practice some form of spiritual faith as is evidenced in his post above. that is one of his reasons for calling Ron a cook. Pretty lame in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm curious to know when you think life begins and therefore rights that are recognized for the rest of us can be applied to an unborn baby. This should be interesting.
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that is one of his reasons for calling Ron a cook. Pretty lame in my opinion.
Ron cook's some kick ass orange chicken I hear.
You meant kook?
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Ron cook's some kick ass orange chicken I hear.
You meant kook?
Thanks. Working on only three hours sleep. lol
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Food pantries, community orgs, community help and assistance, mentors, etc etc etc
If that is your answer, you are dumber than we ever thought.
Try again.
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Schools, missions, hospitals, etc etc. That list was not exhaustive fool.
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you and your stupid eye rolls. You must have 20,000 posts of just eye rolls.
You, can suck an egg. :) Eyeroll was perfectly appropriate. No need to talk about a woman like that, especially when it's just because you disagree with her politics.
In that case your post count should be tripled as you would have applied that same post logic to the little post whore sociopath that does exactly that every single day with politics he disagrees with.
Or it is just reserved for Republican use only?
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See what I mean. Adam is very clear that no good can come from anyone that does practice some form of spiritual faith as is evidenced in his post above. that is one of his reasons for calling Ron a cook. Pretty lame in my opinion.
Anyway, I'm curious to know when you think life begins and therefore rights that are recognized for the rest of us can be applied to an unborn baby. This should be interesting.
Until the umbilical cord is cut. Or once the parasite is extracted from the womb.
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Schools, missions, hospitals, etc etc. That list was not exhaustive fool.
Schools, like the ones where they teach that the world is 6000 years old, created in 6 days, and that men rode around on Dinosaurs and that the human body is a disgusting thing and everyone is born with evil intention. Or the "hospitals" that do not provide full technology because it would be against god`s wishes to employ such technology?
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Schools, like the ones where they teach that the world is 6000 years old, created in 6 days, and that men rode around on Dinosaurs and that the human body is a disgusting thing and everyone is born with evil intention. Or the "hospitals" that do not provide full technology because it would be against god`s wishes to employ such technology?
Yawn. Pure drivel.
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Yawn. Pure drivel.
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Please TA - you are clueless.
You think every religious school teaches the very most extreme things you claim?
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Please TA - you are clueless.
You think every religious school teaches the very most extreme things you claim?
All the kids growing up who went to very expensive Christian schools were complete morons. They DO NOT teach Science or even correct History ever. How could they, they know nothing of one and the other is cherry picked for Jesus.
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All the kids growing up who went to very expensive Christian schools were complete morons. They DO NOT teach Science or even correct History ever. How could they, they know nothing of one and the other is cherry picked for Jesus.
Yeah, they are all morons at Notre Dame, Fordham, Loyola, et al. ::) ::)
Bro - YOU DIDNT EVEN GRADUATE SCHOOL YOURSELF!
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No I want Bernie Sanders for President or Dennis Kucinich actually or Mike Gravel. I hope this helps.
Dennis Kucinich on Ron Paul
This is old news you know. Personally I think Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party. Too bad there are zero others in his party like him. All of your favorites, Bachmann, Palin and such are the complete opposites.
How do you process that in your brain and reconcile that? Ron Paul and Palin/Bachmann are polar opposites. You can`t be for Paul and then be for Bachmann or Palin or anyone else in the Republican Party. It just doesn`t work and it means you really have no firm principles.
Adonis, what's your purpose in this thread? First you trash Ron Paul while you exalt Dennis Kucinich. Now you say "Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party"? Who would you like to see win the Republican nomination?
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Ron Paul doesn't want to force his religion on anyone. Unlike psycho neo cons like Rick Santorum. He is the only repub. talking about legalizing pot. Doesn't that get a lot of the progressive vote?
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All the kids growing up who went to very expensive Christian schools were complete morons. They DO NOT teach Science or even correct History ever. How could they, they know nothing of one and the other is cherry picked for Jesus.
Lol. Your ignorance is incredible.
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Dennis Kucinich on Ron Paul
This is old news you know. Personally I think Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party. Too bad there are zero others in his party like him. All of your favorites, Bachmann, Palin and such are the complete opposites.
How do you process that in your brain and reconcile that? Ron Paul and Palin/Bachmann are polar opposites. You can`t be for Paul and then be for Bachmann or Palin or anyone else in the Republican Party. It just doesn`t work and it means you really have no firm principles.
Adonis, what's your purpose in this thread? First you trash Ron Paul while you exalt Dennis Kucinich. Now you say "Ron Paul is the best of the Republican Party"? Who would you like to see win the Republican nomination?
I would love to see Ron Paul win the Nomination, as I think the Republican Party needs to go into a more sane direction instead of the path to insanity which Bachmann and the rest are driving towards. If Ron Paul can at least change the face of his party, I would consider it a victory in some respects, but then again, the nomination really means nothing. They have done their best to throw John McCain under the bus and then run over him and he was their last nominee.
As far as my purpose of this thread, well its quite broad. I like to point out the polar opposites that are Bachmann, Palin etc.. and Ron Paul. You have people like 3333366 who have no firm principles because he pretends to support Paul every now and then but who is really throwing his support to Bachmann, Palin, Perry. How can this be, when Paul is the complete polar opposite to any of them? You see, this speaks volumes of the unhinged nature of the Republican Party with no real firm principals. Either that, or they just like their own version of facts and see fit to make them up as they go along. Both of these things are true.
My other Purpose is that Ron Poop is not all Roses and Rainbows. He has a lot of glaring issues and contradictions that his supporters are willing to turn themselves into pretzels, believing in things and supporting things they normally would not, just because Ron Poop does. I`ve seen them even defend points they are opposed to. This is what Paultards do and again it speaks to having no or limited principles. Its kind of amusing, but more annoying in the end.
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Ron Paul doesn't want to force his religion on anyone. Unlike psycho neo cons like Rick Santorum. He is the only repub. talking about legalizing pot. Doesn't that get a lot of the progressive vote?
Ron Paul does not believe in Thomas Jefferson`s WALL OF SEPARATION of Church and State. Sorry. And then there is this plus more:
http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm
Present scientific facts that support creationism. (Sep 2007)
Tax-credited programs for Christian schooling. (Sep 2007)
Supports a Constitutional Amendment for school prayer. (May 1997)
Voted NO on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Jan 2007)
Voted NO on allowing human embryonic stem cell research. (May 2005)
Abortion is murder. (Apr 2008)
Roe v. Wade decision was harmful to the Constitution. (Apr 2008)
Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
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Until the umbilical cord is cut. Or once the parasite is extracted from the womb.
Does anyone still take anything you say seriously after a response like that? I take back any defense I extended to your past opinions, even though I disagreed with some of them. The ones you offer here are beyond ridiculous and I'm happy to say we don't need to convince anyone like you to vote for RP. Please stick to promoting Bernie Sanders, I'm sure he'd be proud to have you as a supporter.
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I bet you use the same barber.
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That dude has failed...
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Does anyone still take anything you say seriously after a response like that? I take back any defense I extended to your past opinions, even though I disagreed with some of them the ones you offer here are beyond ridiculous and I'm happy to say we don't need to convince anyone like you to vote for RP. Please stick to promoting Bernie Sanders, I'm sure he'd be proud to have you as a supporter.
Oh did I offend the little baby? You do realize thats what a fetus is, a parasite. Right?
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Does anyone still take anything you say seriously after a response like that? I take back any defense I extended to your past opinions, even though I disagreed with some of them the ones you offer here are beyond ridiculous and I'm happy to say we don't need to convince anyone like you to vote for RP. Please stick to promoting Bernie Sanders, I'm sure he'd be proud to have you as a supporter.
I take it you don`t know what a Caesarean section is.
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My other Purpose is that Ron Poop is not all Roses and Rainbows. He has a lot of glaring issues and contradictions that his supporters are willing to turn themselves into pretzels, believing in things and supporting things they normally would not, just because Ron Poop does. I`ve seen them even defend points they are opposed to. This is what Paultards do and again it speaks to having no or limited principles. Its kind of amusing, but more annoying in the end.
Ron Paul is not all Roses and Rainbows. Who is? There is no candidate, Dem or Repub, that is perfect or that any voter can agree with 100% on every issue.
Ron Paul is not responsible for what his supporters do or say.
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Ron Paul is not all Roses and Rainbows. Who is? There is no candidate, Dem or Repub, that is perfect or that any voter can agree with 100% on every issue.
Ron Paul is not responsible for what his supporters do or say.
Right. I like Ron Paul a lot better than I do his supporters. His supporters magically change their positions and beliefs rather than to say, RON PAUL your position on X is nonsensical and stupid. At least true Progressive have the rationale to call out everybody whether it be Obama the Right Wing President or Bachmann aka Loony Tunes.
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That dude has failed...
How did he fail? He was spot on.
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Right. I like Ron Paul a lot better than I do his supporters. His supporters magically change their positions and beliefs rather than to say, RON PAUL your position on X is nonsensical and stupid. At least true Progressive have the rationale to call out everybody whether it be Obama the Right Wing President or Bachmann aka Loony Tunes.
"True Progressive" = self label of the month to hide being called a liberal.
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Oh did I offend the little baby? You do realize thats what a fetus is, a parasite. Right?
Im sure your future partner, (if its woman), would appreciate you rubbing her belly and reffering to the baby as "our little parasite". Go ahead and do that in public, you'll be viewed as a wierdo, actually your face already grants you that title but hopefully you get what Im saying.
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How did he fail? He was spot on.
Federalism, individual state's rights is what this country was founded on and in keeping with the 10th amendment and the constitution, if Maine wants radically different laws to Noth Carolina or New York, that is the way it SHOULD be.
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Federalism, individual state's rights is what this country was founded on and in keeping with the 10th amendment and the constitution, if Maine wants radically different laws to Noth Carolina or New York, that is the way it SHOULD be.
You need to learn more about American History. Do you have any idea how Lincoln won the civil war or what he used as his Declaration to go to War or what the Emancipation Proclamation actually was? Furthermore do you know anything about Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr or John Adams?
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You need to learn more about American History. Do you have any idea how Lincoln won the civil war or what he used as his Declaration to go to War or what the Emancipation Proclamation actually was? Furthermore do you know anything about Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr or John Adams?
Yes, Lincoln was not the hero he was made to be and even then Hamilton represented big banker interests...modern day Bernanke. Jefferson fought him on the central bank issue and won.
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The Louisiana Purchase. ;D
Ron Poopers need an American History lesson quite badly.
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You need to learn more about American History. Do you have any idea how Lincoln won the civil war or what he used as his Declaration to go to War or what the Emancipation Proclamation actually was? Furthermore do you know anything about Alexander Hamilton, Aaron Burr or John Adams?
Did you learn this in your college level history classes?
Oh wait . . . .
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Did you learn this in your college level history classes?
Oh wait . . . .
I live in a town that is completely unchanged since the Civil War. General Shermans troops were shot in my backyard. My house is a part of history. It is all around me.
You. You live in the ghetto. haha
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I live in a town that is completely unchanged since the Civil War. General Shermans troops were shot in my backyard. My house is a part of history. It is all around me.
You. You live in the ghetto. haha
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Yeah, no history in NYC bro. Got it.
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Yeah, no history in NYC bro. Got it.
There certainly is, but not in the ghetto that you dwell in.
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There certainly is, but not in the ghetto that you dwell in.
Oh brilliant - I have more history, from many different centuries, all within 20 minutes from me. Yeah, nothing near me bro.
LMAO.
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Did you learn this in your college level history classes?
Oh wait . . . .
So TA never went to college AND he doesnt have a day job that earns him his own income? Is this true Adam?
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So TA never went to college AND he doesnt have a day job that earns him his own income? Is this true Adam?
Of course it isn`t but I don`t want to ruin your fantasies.
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Of course it isn`t but I don`t want to ruin your fantasies.
What do you do for a living? Do you manage something that was handed down to you? Did you go into a particular field of your choice? Of coarse, you don't have to answer.
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What do you do for a living? Do you manage something that was handed down to you? Did you go into a particular field of your choice? Of coarse, you don't have to answer.
I keep a bit of that private, but I am self-employed completely by choice and Jezebelle and I do very well. School was a complete waste of time and money for both Jezebelle and I. It was all paid for, but still a complete waste in my opinion. At least I can say that I never took a dime from the government in Federal Student Loans or Private for that matter. The University Industrial Complex is a shame and not what George Washington, intended.
And yes, I also have an inheritance.