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Title: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:06:23 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 23, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
How was it at treblinka?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:10:02 AM
abs

(http://i34.tinypic.com/jidjkh.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:10:47 AM
How was it at treblinka?

me not been there heard it sucked
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Nomad on April 23, 2013, 12:11:05 AM
very good for a natty
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: ozman on April 23, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
Eat something for fuck sake
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 12:11:51 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose



Yes you are. There is something a little be scary in the way you look. Who knows, maybe I am just jealous.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:12:27 AM
front

(http://i34.tinypic.com/21nf4pc.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:14:56 AM
(http://i37.tinypic.com/rcn8xx.jpg)

my best photo
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Stephano on April 23, 2013, 12:18:00 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose



Your upper arms appear to be roughly the same in circumference as your wrists. 
"Monster 11-inch arms"?? 

You look like you've spent a lot of time in jail, doing calisthenics and eating small amounts of prison food.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 12:21:41 AM
Your upper arms appear to be roughly the same in circumference as your wrists. 
"Monster 11-inch arms"?? 

You look like you've spent a lot of time in jail, doing calisthenics and eating small amounts of prison food.

NOT SAYING I LOOK THER BEST BUT I AM NOT AFRAID TO BE WHO I AM

I WILL TRAIN AND TRY TO IMPROVE

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Stephano on April 23, 2013, 12:23:24 AM
NOT SAYING I LOOK THER BEST BUT I AM NOT AFRAID TO BE WHO I AM

I WILL TRAIN AND TRY TO IMPROVE



Definitely ripped, though.  More than 99.99999% of naturals will ever be.  Now it's time to 'blast' high-doses & blow up. :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 23, 2013, 12:56:46 AM
your camera is on LSD?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 23, 2013, 01:21:31 AM
Fuck, shredded man nice work. Age, height, weight  ???
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 23, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Definitely ripped dude, you should do battle with dj81 and see who can eat a whole cornflake first
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: delon on April 23, 2013, 01:25:52 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose



Ripped, why not turn your wrists inward for a bit more biceps peak

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: deceiver on April 23, 2013, 01:28:25 AM
Excellent shape, shit posing :)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 23, 2013, 01:31:58 AM
You are fucking shredded. Tell us about your diet
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: falco on April 23, 2013, 01:33:37 AM
You have a beach body, too bad it's snowing outside :'(.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: jr on April 23, 2013, 01:47:34 AM
Do you still get morning wood and have a libido at this low bodyfat level?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 23, 2013, 02:56:23 AM
Definitely ripped dude, you should do battle with dj81 and see who can eat a whole cornflake first

 :) :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: gracie bjj on April 23, 2013, 03:03:53 AM
great job bro, u r shredded as hell
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 03:04:03 AM
Definitely ripped dude, you should do battle with dj81 and see who can eat a whole cornflake first

 ;D ;D ;D

i'm now sitting @ sub-6, but this dude is sub-4 FUCK!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 23, 2013, 03:07:23 AM
;D ;D ;D

i'm now sitting @ sub-6, but this dude is sub-4 FUCK!

Hey bro, got the pics and you're looking shredded. Once you get another 10-15lbs of lean muscle on you'll be good to go!

This dude definitely knows the meaning of low bodyfat levels though SHIT!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 03:10:36 AM
Hey bro, got the pics and you're looking shredded. Once you get another 10-15lbs of lean muscle on you'll be good to go!

This dude definitely knows the meaning of low bodyfat levels though SHIT!

thanks ma man ;D

and it's funny you mention 10-15 pounds of lean muscle, coz that's nearly my exact goals ie. 5-8 kilo of muscle

remember, i'm a European now, so i gotta use kilos instead of pounds, or at least that's what my euro buds tell me 8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 03:26:48 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose


Did you just get out of a Concentration Camp?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 03:27:40 AM
one more pic...i would post legs too maybe not today


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Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 03:29:08 AM
Fuck, shredded man nice work. Age, height, weight  ???

38, 6'1 167 pounds
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 03:30:13 AM
;D ;D ;D

i'm now sitting @ sub-6, but this dude is sub-4 FUCK!

I am 5%.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 03:32:20 AM
You are fucking shredded. Tell us about your diet

i got to this ocndition after zero carb diet

i eat meat, eggs, animal fat and that's it.

like i said zero carbs
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 03:41:33 AM
I am 5%.

what's your skinfolds?

ab, chest, thigh

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 23, 2013, 03:48:23 AM
i got to this ocndition after zero carb diet

i eat meat, eggs, animal fat and that's it.

like i said zero carbs

Get familiar with the following term, "faecal compaction".
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 03:54:22 AM
what's your skinfolds?

ab, chest, thigh



the total of all 7 skinfold is 24.9 at me "leanest"

biggest skingofl was 5mm - at the back -
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 03:57:48 AM
the total of all 7 skinfold is 24.9 at me "leanest"

biggest skingofl was 5mm - at the back -

impressive

when you say "at the back" was that your subscapular skinfold or your kidney/low back skinfold?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 04:03:27 AM
GREAT....

Now eat gain 20 lbs of muscle and 10 pounds of fat....then cut again, maybe you won't look like a 20k runner
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: HappyGorilla on April 23, 2013, 04:07:01 AM
Good luck on your 15 year plan of gaining 5-8 Kilos of muscle as a natural.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: HappyGorilla on April 23, 2013, 04:08:30 AM
GREAT....

Now eat gain 20 lbs of muscle and 10 pounds of fat....then cut again, maybe you won't look like a 20k runner

Do you know how enormous 20 lbs of muscle is? That's a few years with anabolics, as a natural forget it lol.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 05:26:22 AM
Do you know how enormous 20 lbs of muscle is? That's a few years with anabolics, as a natural forget it lol.

20 lbs in years with anabolic?

not sure if serious;;;;;;;;

most people will gain 20lbs by just popping d-bols;;;yes not qulity weight - water but still LBMsss

you cna phucking gain 20lbs like nothing on heavy anabols.........

natural however it will require lifetime
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 05:28:19 AM
GREAT....

Now eat gain 20 lbs of muscle and 10 pounds of fat....then cut again, maybe you won't look like a 20k runner

saw your pictures.....u are obviously hormonized....,,,,and u are mad that in compeition I will blow you away because u don't have the conditionning and I am 4.4 % BF

u mad ? son ?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 05:35:26 AM
great job dude .. THAT conditioning is not easy to achieve and spells "suffered"  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 05:36:28 AM
Good luck on your 15 year plan of gaining 5-8 Kilos of muscle as a natural.

not planning to gain shit.................... ........................ ........,and i most likely wont,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just showing u the limits natty with average genetics....not that gentics mather...............

it's all about response to anabol,,,and slin..,,,,


i dare anybody who is 100% natural to challenege me at this conditionning ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i fucking have striations on my dick

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come at me brah and claim natural

me blow u away
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 23, 2013, 05:49:42 AM
not planning to gain shit.................... ........................ ........,and i most likely wont,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just showing u the limits natty with average genetics....not that gentics mather...............

it's all about response to anabol,,,and slin..,,,,


i dare anybody who is 100% natural to challenege me at this conditionning ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i fucking have striations on my dick

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come at me brah and claim natural

me blow u away

Tempted to accept this challenge.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 05:52:25 AM
I did the same thing this winter ... I managed 7%
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: MP on April 23, 2013, 05:54:34 AM
Marine, props, but seriously, you must feel like crap on that diet ... no carbs, no fiber?

How long do you envision maintaining that diet?

Again, props, though.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 23, 2013, 05:54:40 AM
I did the same thing this winter ... I managed 7%

You can't play this game. You've been on some pretty heavy shit previously.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 23, 2013, 05:58:28 AM
You can't play this game. You've been on some pretty heavy shit previously.

I don't think you qualify either 'C-BuZz' as your torso is shaped like a penis
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 23, 2013, 05:59:52 AM
I don't think you qualify either 'C-BuZz' as your torso is shaped like a penis

The ladies love it.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: deceiver on April 23, 2013, 06:00:37 AM
Oh cmon, whether natural or not this is not easy to achieve and you look awesome, much better than I do even though I'm bigger.

"Twink" comments come from delusional guys who think they would be bigger than you at this bodyfat. No, you wouldn't, you would fucking disappear.

C-buzz cmon, no hate man, but your chest looks like you're 6 months after transgender surgury, all the way weird nipples and no muscles.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: UMPlabs on April 23, 2013, 06:23:18 AM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose



(http://i.imgur.com/xunPHkT.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 06:37:19 AM
"Twink" comments come from delusional guys who think they would be bigger than you at this bodyfat. No, you wouldn't, you would fucking disappear.

ex-fucking-actly
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 23, 2013, 07:00:45 AM
ex-fucking-actly

Yes bingo.

I do like my fair share of twink comments haha, but it's because I preferred to a 'huge with a sweater on' kind of guy. Now i'm dieting I appreciate the effort it takes to get where you guys are at, and also the illusion it gives asthetically
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 07:04:28 AM
Yes bingo.

I do like my fair share of twink comments haha, but it's because I preferred to a 'huge with a sweater on' kind of guy. Now i'm dieting I appreciate the effort it takes to get where you guys are at, and also the illusion it gives asthetically

i know that you originate from the south of europe ie. Cyprus so therefore maybe you have those beautiful round Italian muscles stud 8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 07:58:28 AM
i got to this ocndition after zero carb diet

i eat meat, eggs, animal fat and that's it.

like i said zero carbs

:)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 07:59:56 AM
Get familiar with the following term, "faecal compaction".

If fat content is high enough he is fine if not some veggies will do. Fiber is not essential to health.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 23, 2013, 08:03:32 AM
i know that you originate from the south of europe ie. Cyprus so therefore maybe you have those beautiful round Italian muscles stud 8)

Well yes it has been noted that my muscles are rather shapely and sexy
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 08:12:30 AM
I am also a fan of dieting keto of sorts .. it takes a lot of tweaking and mistakes and cheating to "get it". I have to thank Disgusted for his expertise. He knows his stuff through and through.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Figo on April 23, 2013, 08:55:55 AM
;D ;D ;D

i'm now sitting @ sub-6, but this dude is sub-4 FUCK!

Fuck, the cornflake thing was funny! ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 23, 2013, 09:41:17 AM
Marine, that is an insane low body fat. What type of workouts do you do? What type of cardio? If getbig had a most ripped contest you would win hands down.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 09:48:11 AM
Marine, that is an insane low body fat. What type of workouts do you do? What type of cardio? If getbig had a most ripped contest you would win hands down.

no cardio normal training with weights

it;s all diet and ecto genetics

when bulking i in a typical day I have 18 large eggs, 500g pork, 100g butter.

i
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 23, 2013, 09:54:04 AM
So what type of lifting? High sets with high reps moderate weights? Low sets and HIT? What type of split? I really don't care what a steroid user says about training but I will listen to a successful natural.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 09:55:21 AM
So what type of lifting? High sets with high reps moderate weights? Low sets and HIT? What type of split. I really don't care what a steroid user says about training but I will listen to a successful natural.

heavy - low reps around 5-7 i do squat, lunge, press, pull-up,,,

but conditionin is the diet
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 09:56:02 AM
old photo 5-6 years ago

about 72 kgs - 160 pounds

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shredded abs

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beach body

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Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 09:56:50 AM
not planning to gain shit.................... ........................ ........,and i most likely wont,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just showing u the limits natty with average genetics....not that gentics mather...............

it's all about response to anabol,,,and slin..,,,,


i dare anybody who is 100% natural to challenege me at this conditionning ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i fucking have striations on my dick

(http://s17.postimg.org/ouj1mw2i7/legs.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
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come at me brah and claim natural

me blow u away
Not trying to challange you but just saying, I was just as shredded as you there, if not more, natural in grade 9, no joke, I was bigger too.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: cswol on April 23, 2013, 09:57:33 AM
sherreded but look like a stork, this why i tell many here on getbig, being shredded at 8% bodyfat isnt the definition of training or being strong, get some size and look like a bear instead of a stork
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 09:59:28 AM
sherreded but look like a stork, this why i tell many here on getbig, being shredded at 8% bodyfat isnt the definition of training or being strong, get some size and look like a bear instead of a stork
:D

you def look like a big bear ready to have a stroke  :)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:01:26 AM
sherreded but look like a stork, this why i tell many here on getbig, being shredded at 8% bodyfat isnt the definition of training or being strong, get some size and look like a bear instead of a stork

i am 4.4 in most pics

8 and 4,4 - big difference - big

also i am natural ecto and 38 years old

beat that

delusional phaggot
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 23, 2013, 10:02:16 AM
All natural!  :D

(http://s11.postimg.org/5cu9pjvr7/2013_03_18_17_57_07.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 10:03:16 AM
far from natural but very good condition
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: liquid_c on April 23, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
sherreded but look like a stork, this why i tell many here on getbig, being shredded at 8% bodyfat isnt the definition of training or being strong, get some size and look like a bear instead of a stork


You have to remember though, there are two main types of delusion:

1.  Those that are shredded, but super small and think just because they are shredded they are huge when in reality they are tiny, weak twinks for lack of a better term.  No carbs all the time=No strength all the time.  

2.  Those that are fatter than hell and think because the scale shows them at 250+ and they have 20" fat arms think they are huge.  

No, I'm not saying you're #2 as I have not seen how strong you actually are or how much bodyfat you really have.  Just making a point.  

Opposite sides of the same coin.  
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 23, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
All natural!  :D

(http://s11.postimg.org/5cu9pjvr7/2013_03_18_17_57_07.jpg)


First off, HAWT!

Second, your man chesticles hang real low, making them look like flat tits.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:08:08 AM
All natural!  :D

(http://s11.postimg.org/5cu9pjvr7/2013_03_18_17_57_07.jpg)

thick as a brick no doubt
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:11:15 AM
(http://s8.postimg.org/y1r5q8jhx/homo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image (http://postimage.org/)

one more for the guys


i am done no more i quit
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 23, 2013, 10:12:24 AM

First off, HAWT!

Second, your man chesticles hang real low, making them look like flat tits.

 :D

I wouldnt say I had FLAT tits.  :-*

(http://s24.postimg.org/3xucei35h/i44oe9.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TigerStripes on April 23, 2013, 10:13:04 AM
Shredded, but looks like a tweaker.

You got the shredded part, now you just need some muscle.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: liquid_c on April 23, 2013, 10:14:18 AM
Shredded, but looks like a tweaker.

You got the shredded part, now you just need some muscle.

Considering he's not a pro BB, he looks good and has a sufficient amount of muscle for how lean he is. 
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 10:18:00 AM
8 and 4,4 - big difference - big

yep

so when do you notice the most dramatic change?

once i hit sub-7 then it's on 8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 10:24:28 AM
yep

so when do you notice the most dramatic change?

once i hit sub-7 then it's on 8)
:D

dude you have issues I swear .. why are you scaring everyone with how good you will look?


stop being a huge pussy and do something
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2013, 10:28:48 AM
If fat content is high enough he is fine if not some veggies will do. Fiber is not essential to health.
Not true.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/fiber-health-benefits-11/fiber-cancer
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TigerStripes on April 23, 2013, 10:33:06 AM
Considering he's not a pro BB, he looks good and has a sufficient amount of muscle for how lean he is. 

I agree. But when a guy gets too lean, it just starts to look like he's dying of cancer or been on meth for months.

It's impressive to achieve that. But to me it does not look good.

Reminds me of pellius. Yes he's shredded, but it just looks disgusting and sickly.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2013, 10:34:26 AM
If fat content is high enough he is fine if not some veggies will do. Fiber is not essential to health.



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130109162032.htm

High Fiber Diet Prevents Prostate Cancer Progression, Study Shows
Jan. 9, 2013 — A high-fiber diet may have the clinical potential to control the progression of prostate cancer in patients diagnosed in early stages of the disease
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 10:36:08 AM
:D

dude you have issues I swear .. why are you scaring everyone with how good you will look?


stop being a huge pussy and do something

how the fuck is that scaring anyone ???

i said that i'll get ripped in 3 weeks and i did so

so now i say that i'll add 5-8 kilo of lean muscle tissue in 6 months which i will do so
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 10:37:35 AM
how the fuck is that scaring anyone ???

i said that i'll get ripped in 3 weeks and i did so

so now i say that i'll add 5-8 kilo of lean muscle tissue in 6 months which i will do so
post a fucking pic and stop yapping .. you talk too much for how sad you look
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: clownbaby on April 23, 2013, 10:39:37 AM
If fat content is high enough he is fine if not some veggies will do. Fiber is not essential to health.

wow you now have zero credibility if this is your stance on fiber
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 10:40:08 AM
wow you now have zero credibility if this is your stance on fiber
:D :D

and you are ... ?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TigerStripes on April 23, 2013, 10:40:45 AM
how the fuck is that scaring anyone ???

i said that i'll get ripped in 3 weeks and i did so

so now i say that i'll add 5-8 kilo of lean muscle tissue in 6 months which i will do so

Didn't you do say the same thing on here a couple years ago? And when it came time to show you just said "oops, I fucked up and look like shit. So I actually won't post a pic."

You are all talk. All talk.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 10:42:38 AM
wow you now have zero credibility if this is your stance on fiber
Great avatar, Lizard Lick Towing a great show.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 23, 2013, 10:43:26 AM
Didn't you do say the same thing on here a couple years ago? And when it came time to show you just said "oops, I fucked up and look like shit. So I actually won't post a pic."

You are all talk. All talk.

this

he tries to get in shape every year then melts down

sev is ten times the get bigger bjfullofcome is
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
post a fucking pic and stop yapping .. you talk too much for how sad you look

what the fuck you talking about ???

i already posted current pics on your thread dummy

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 23, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
How was it at treblinka?

 ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 23, 2013, 10:45:08 AM
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/fiber/NU00033

Dietary fiber: Essential for a healthy diet
Fiber provides many health benefits. Here's how to fit more into your diet.


By Mayo Clinic staff
Eat more fiber. You've probably heard it before. But do you know why fiber is so good for your health?

Dietary fiber — found mainly in fruits, vegetables, whole grains and legumes — is probably best known for its ability to prevent or relieve constipation. But foods containing fiber can provide other health benefits as well, such as helping to maintain a healthy weight and lowering your risk of diabetes and heart disease.

Selecting tasty foods that provide fiber isn't difficult. Find out how much dietary fiber you need, the foods that contain it, and how to add them to meals and snacks.

What is dietary fiber?

Dietary fiber, also known as roughage or bulk, includes all parts of plant foods that your body can't digest or absorb. Unlike other food components, such as fats, proteins or carbohydrates — which your body breaks down and absorbs — fiber isn't digested by your body. Instead, it passes relatively intact through your stomach, small intestine, colon and out of your body.

Fiber is commonly classified as soluble (it dissolves in water) or insoluble (it doesn't dissolve):

Soluble fiber. This type of fiber dissolves in water to form a gel-like material. It can help lower blood cholesterol and glucose levels. Soluble fiber is found in oats, peas, beans, apples, citrus fruits, carrots, barley and psyllium.
Insoluble fiber. This type of fiber promotes the movement of material through your digestive system and increases stool bulk, so it can be of benefit to those who struggle with constipation or irregular stools. Whole-wheat flour, wheat bran, nuts, beans and vegetables, such as cauliflower, green beans and potatoes, are good sources of insoluble fiber.
Most plant-based foods, such as oatmeal and beans, contain both soluble and insoluble fiber. However, the amount of each type varies in different plant foods. To receive the greatest health benefit, eat a wide variety of high-fiber foods.

Benefits of a high-fiber diet

A high-fiber diet has many benefits, which include:

Normalizes bowel movements. Dietary fiber increases the weight and size of your stool and softens it. A bulky stool is easier to pass, decreasing your chance of constipation. If you have loose, watery stools, fiber may also help to solidify the stool because it absorbs water and adds bulk to stool.
Helps maintain bowel health. A high-fiber diet may lower your risk of developing hemorrhoids and small pouches in your colon (diverticular disease). Some fiber is fermented in the colon. Researchers are looking at how this may play a role in preventing diseases of the colon.
Lowers cholesterol levels. Soluble fiber found in beans, oats, flaxseed and oat bran may help lower total blood cholesterol levels by lowering low-density lipoprotein, or "bad," cholesterol levels. Studies also have shown that fiber may have other heart-health benefits, such as reducing blood pressure and inflammation.
Helps control blood sugar levels. In people with diabetes, fiber — particularly soluble fiber — can slow the absorption of sugar and help improve blood sugar levels. A healthy diet that includes insoluble fiber may also reduce the risk of developing type 2 diabetes.
Aids in achieving healthy weight. High-fiber foods generally require more chewing time, which gives your body time to register when you're no longer hungry, so you're less likely to overeat. Also, a high-fiber diet tends to make a meal feel larger and linger longer, so you stay full for a greater amount of time. And high-fiber diets also tend to be less "energy dense," which means they have fewer calories for the same volume of food.
Another benefit attributed to dietary fiber is prevention of colorectal cancer. However, the evidence that fiber reduces colorectal cancer is mixed.

How much fiber do you need?

How much fiber do you need each day? The Institute of Medicine, which provides science-based advice on matters of medicine and health, gives the following daily recommendations for adults:

    Age 50 or younger   Age 51 or older
Men   38 grams   30 grams
Women   25 grams   21 grams
Institute of Medicine, 2012

Your best fiber choices

If you aren't getting enough fiber each day, you may need to boost your intake. Good choices include:

Whole-grain products
Fruits
Vegetables
Beans, peas and other legumes
Nuts and seeds
Refined or processed foods — such as canned fruits and vegetables, pulp-free juices, white breads and pastas, and non-whole-grain cereals — are lower in fiber. The grain-refining process removes the outer coat (bran) from the grain, which lowers its fiber content. Similarly, removing the skin from fruits and vegetables decreases their fiber content.

Fiber supplements and fortified foods

Whole foods rather than fiber supplements are generally better. Fiber supplements — such as Metamucil, Citrucel and FiberCon — don't provide the variety of fibers, vitamins, minerals and other beneficial nutrients that foods do.

However, some people may still need a fiber supplement if dietary changes aren't sufficient or if they have certain medical conditions, such as constipation, diarrhea or irritable bowel syndrome. Always check with your doctor if you feel you need to take fiber supplements.

Fiber is also added to some foods. However, it's not yet clear if added fiber provides the same health benefits as naturally occurring sources.

Tips for fitting in fiber

Need ideas for adding more fiber to your meals and snacks? Try these suggestions:

Jump-start your day. For breakfast choose a high-fiber breakfast cereal — 5 or more grams of fiber a serving. Opt for cereals with "whole grain," "bran" or "fiber" in the name. Or add a few tablespoons of unprocessed wheat bran to your favorite cereal.
Switch to whole grains. Consume at least half of all grains as whole grains. Look for breads that list whole wheat, whole-wheat flour or another whole grain as the first ingredient on the label. Look for a brand with at least 2 grams of dietary fiber a serving. Experiment with brown rice, wild rice, barley, whole-wheat pasta and bulgur.
Bulk up your baked goods. Substitute whole-grain flour for half or all of the white flour when baking. Whole-grain flour is heavier than white flour. In yeast breads, use a bit more yeast or let the dough rise longer. When using baking powder, increase it by 1 teaspoon for every 3 cups of whole-grain flour. Try adding crushed bran cereal, unprocessed wheat bran or uncooked oatmeal to muffins, cakes and cookies.
Mix it up. Add pre-cut fresh or frozen vegetables to soups and sauces. For example, mix chopped frozen broccoli into prepared spaghetti sauce or toss fresh baby carrots into stews.
Get a leg up with legumes. Beans, peas and lentils are excellent sources of fiber. Add kidney beans to canned soup or a green salad. Or make nachos with refried black beans, lots of fresh veggies, whole-wheat tortilla chips and salsa.
Eat fruit at every meal. Apples, bananas, oranges, pears and berries are good sources of fiber.
Make snacks count. Fresh fruits, raw vegetables, low-fat popcorn and whole-grain crackers are all good choices. An occasional handful of nuts or dried fruits also is a healthy, high-fiber snack — although be aware that nuts and dried fruits are high in calories.
High-fiber foods are good for your health. But adding too much fiber too quickly can promote intestinal gas, abdominal bloating and cramping. Increase fiber in your diet gradually over a period of a few weeks. This allows the natural bacteria in your digestive system to adjust to the change.

Also, drink plenty of water. Fiber works best when it absorbs water, making your stool soft and bulky.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 23, 2013, 10:45:38 AM
not planning to gain shit.................... ........................ ........,and i most likely wont,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

just showing u the limits natty with average genetics....not that gentics mather...............

it's all about response to anabol,,,and slin..,,,,


i dare anybody who is 100% natural to challenege me at this conditionning ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

i fucking have striations on my dick

(http://s17.postimg.org/ouj1mw2i7/legs.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
free image hosting (http://postimage.org/)

LOl at the pose

Epic Tbombz-posing right there

What was your reasoning behind that particular position?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 10:49:22 AM
Great avatar, Lizard Lick Towing a great show.

did i get ripped in 3 weeks dude?

you have the before and after pics and you can tell the truth man, don't sugar coat it
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 10:56:24 AM
did i get ripped in 3 weeks dude?

you have the before and after pics and you can tell the truth man, don't sugar coat it
Yes I think you did, however sev is ripped too and has more mass. So depending on your goals which I always ask people I train what do you want to achieve? Is it to just be ripped or ripped with mass?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 23, 2013, 10:57:26 AM
did i get ripped in 3 weeks dude?

you have the before and after pics and you can tell the truth man, don't sugar coat it

stfu up you needy little prick

back your own shit up or fuck off

you stink of failure you ugly nosferatu look alike
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 23, 2013, 11:01:20 AM
stfu up you needy little prick

back your own shit up or fuck off

you stink of failure you ugly nosferatu look alike

how the fuck do i back it up now when i say that it will happen in 6 months you stupid piece of fucking shit
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 11:02:29 AM
  You really USMC?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 23, 2013, 11:05:45 AM
how the fuck do i back it up now when i say that it will happen in 6 months you stupid piece of fucking shit

fuck off you beta little prick

you are a complete and utter failure

phase three has been going on for four years and you still look like shit

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 11:06:50 AM
abs

(http://i34.tinypic.com/jidjkh.jpg)

Whoa. Not a flattering pic.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 11:10:55 AM
Whoa. Not a flattering pic.
Exactly, looks like straight out the Auschwitz concentration camp. No muscle size hell anyone can get ripped up but damn you got to have mass too to look worth a shit.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 11:11:03 AM
Majdanek
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Hulkotron on April 23, 2013, 11:11:36 AM
Why did you do this to yourself ???
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 11:34:54 AM
saw your pictures.....u are obviously hormonized....,,,,and u are mad that in compeition I will blow you away because u don't have the conditionning and I am 4.4 % BF

u mad ? son ?

boy, you just don't know...couldn't see pics cause I haven't posted any, will end of year now out on injury and soft. Natty and I am 200+ at 6'0" at 10% BF waist 33 normal 32 at sub 10%BF....and my balls pump test like Galenkos needles.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 11:37:17 AM
boy, you just don't know...couldn't see pics cause I haven't posted any, will end of year now out on injury and soft. Natty and I am 200+ at 6'0" at 10% BF waist 33 normal 32 at sub 10%BF....and my balls pump test like Galenkos needles.

ok i mistaken you for another guy - he was 40 something -- no fuck given

10%BF at 6'0 equals - 30 inches waist - so you get the right to stfup

since you are 14%Bf get to

4.4  this is 9% Bf loss

and come back at me
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: liquid_c on April 23, 2013, 11:39:49 AM
ok i mistaken you for another guy - he was 40 something -- no fuck given

10%BF at 6'0 equals - 30 inches waist - so you get the right to stfup

since you are 14%Bf get to

4.4  this is 9% Bf loss

and come back at me

You can't get someone's waist size and height and determine bf%.  In no way shape or form.  Too many other factors in play. 
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 11:44:27 AM
I am also a fan of dieting keto of sorts .. it takes a lot of tweaking and mistakes and cheating to "get it". I have to thank Disgusted for his expertise. He knows his stuff through and through.

Thanks bud I think you have done excellent and look great.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 11:47:02 AM
Not true.

http://www.webmd.com/diet/fiber-health-benefits-11/fiber-cancer

Studies for studies against. Fact is fiber is not an essential nutrient.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 11:48:33 AM
ok i mistaken you for another guy - he was 40 something -- no fuck given

10%BF at 6'0 equals - 30 inches waist - so you get the right to stfup

since you are 14%Bf get to

4.4  this is 9% Bf loss

and come back at me

No interest in less than 8% BF (personal pref.)....not competing and starvation or Adkins isnt worth it for me. We Russians get BIG.....and its 32" at sub 10...I have thick abs and oblies


Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 11:51:37 AM


http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/01/130109162032.htm

High Fiber Diet Prevents Prostate Cancer Progression, Study Shows
Jan. 9, 2013 — A high-fiber diet may have the clinical potential to control the progression of prostate cancer in patients diagnosed in early stages of the disease


Lol so you think prostate cancer because they don't get enough fiber?  People get cancer for the most part from abusing there bodies in part through bad dietary habits and then they turn to certain dietary practices after when its too late. Slowing down cancer with diet is possible but why not trying to prevent it in the first place. So fiber slows cancer what a joke. A zero carb diet puts some people in spontaneous remission.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 12:09:41 PM
Studies for studies against. Fact is fiber is not an essential nutrient.

What? How can you expel food without fiber.?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 12:11:27 PM
What? How can you expel food without fiber.?

Huh? Seriously?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 23, 2013, 12:14:50 PM
Whoa. Not a flattering pic.

Do you feel as if the structure lacks something?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 12:16:30 PM
Huh? Seriously?

Yes, seriously. Take fiber completely out of someone's diet and tell me how they function.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
How much do you upright row there Bill?

Hahahaha
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tu_holmes on April 23, 2013, 12:20:40 PM
Yes, seriously. Take fiber completely out of someone's diet and tell me how they function.

I am particularly fond of pooping...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 12:22:47 PM
Do you feel as if the structure lacks something?

Yes. Muscle.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 12:23:55 PM
I am particularly fond of pooping...

Hahahahahaha. Me too. I never realized how fond of it I was until I took fiber out of the equation.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 12:25:13 PM
Yes, seriously. Take fiber completely out of someone's diet and tell me how they function.

They function perfectly fine as I do daily. I suggest you do some basic reading on how the digestive process works. I will add this, if one does not eat much fat then you will get constipated, but fat is your friend. I would suggest an 80/20 ratio for a healthy diet.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Coach is Back! on April 23, 2013, 12:25:38 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose



If I may make a suggestion.....


Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 12:26:32 PM
They function perfectly fine as I do daily. I suggest you do some basic reading on how the digestive process works. I will add this, if one does not eat much fat then you will get constipated, but fat is your friend. I would suggest an 80/20 ratio for a healthy diet.

Post your diet....a typical day.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 12:26:59 PM
If I may make a suggestion.....




Haha good combo.  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Borracho on April 23, 2013, 12:28:25 PM
NOT SAYING I LOOK THER BEST BUT I AM NOT AFRAID TO BE WHO I AM

I WILL TRAIN AND TRY TO IMPROVE



That's the spirit!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 23, 2013, 12:30:20 PM
Fiber is great but it's not ESSENTIAL.

It doesn't take much of an effort to incorporate into the diet though, so there's no reason in this day and age for Westerns to abstain from it. Especially when you think of all the crap that's in our foods. I've actually been thinking of doing a colon cleanse for a while now. Also starting to up the fiber a bit. I want to be shitting like a champ soon.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 23, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
Post your diet....a typical day.

2 to 3 meals daily. Bacon eggs not much red meat as I get older chicken turkey some peanut butter green veggies when I feel I am particularly fond of asparagus. On occasion I while blend up some kale blueberries strawberries in water with my nutribullet. I also eat cheese but not much and most of my food is organic when possible. Once a week I will cheat and eat some chocolate or some like that.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 12:33:21 PM
Fiber is great but it's not ESSENTIAL.

It doesn't take much of an effort to incorporate into the diet though, so there's no reason in this day and age for Westerns to abstain from it. Especially when you think of all the crap that's in our foods. I've actually been thinking of doing a colon cleanse for a while now. Also starting to up the fiber a bit. I want to be shitting like a champ soon.
Just eat some beans and rice daily works for me.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 23, 2013, 12:35:54 PM
Just eat some beans and rice daily works for me.

The enzymes in beans make me fart like crazy. I actually just bought some beans for the first time in a while. I love eating a big English breakfast with beans on the side but my wife and everyone at home hates me. If I keep doing that they'll probably slit my throat while I'm sleeping (unless I gas them while I'm asleep). ;D

I've actually got a fuck ton of fiber supplements that I've just been too lazy to eat. But I'll start making a conscious effort to eat foods naturally high in fiber too. Nothing feels better than dropping a world class turd and feeling proud of yourself.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 01:46:25 PM
Yes, seriously. Take fiber completely out of someone's diet and tell me how they function.
listen stupid, it is your digestive enzymes that dispel food and control your waist, fibre may soften your shit thus making it easier, but by no means does your body require it, wooooooooooosh the people here sometimes make me laugh-------------
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 01:55:04 PM
listen stupid, it is your digestive enzymes that dispel food and control your waist, fibre may soften your shit thus making it easier, but by no means does your body require it, wooooooooooosh the people here sometimes make me laugh-------------

You make me laugh.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
You make me laugh.
why  ???
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 01:58:34 PM
You make me laugh.

Are you calling him a clown? Is he here for your personal fucking amusement? 8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rudee on April 23, 2013, 02:04:12 PM
The enzymes in beans make me fart like crazy.

I'm the same way with beans.  Popcorn is the worst.   Went out with the woman on the weekend to a movie and we shared a huge tub of popcorn.  Later that night when we got home, I started farting non stop.  And continued farting in bed.  Almost left the house myself, as it was starting to smell like a barn.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 23, 2013, 02:04:58 PM
The pics were blocked from work but I just checked them out now. Awesome work! Looks like everyone was or went natural (clean) and got shredded this winter!

I thought I was shredded but not compared to you guys. Just starting to clamp back down on the diet again though. Some major motivation in this thread. Bodybuilding is about looking good. I will never get bloated in my entire life. Pure delusion. If you can't take your shirt and pants off and look impressive, you're not bodybuilding. Classic lifters never got fat either. Fat is disgusting on men. Only women should carry a positive rate of fat.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
booooooooooooooooooom galeniko is still training bitches  8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 02:07:48 PM
why  ???

OK, I will tell you. I have been working on keeping my posts a bit shorter, but I guess that didn't work here. Anyway, if you truly believe that we don't need fiber in our diets, can you provide some documentation to support that? I goes against what every dietician suggest is healthy. I don't usually take diet advice from muscle-heads because they rarely know what they are talking about. My reasoning is that there appears to be a disproportionate number of huge bodybuilders who die young from heart, liver and kidney failure.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 02:08:46 PM
Are you calling him a clown? Is he here for your personal fucking amusement? 8)

Why do you care?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 02:10:13 PM
Why do you care?

You missed the goodfellas ref.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 23, 2013, 02:10:36 PM
booooooooooooooooooom galeniko is still training bitches  8)

Those are some real cocksthetics.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 02:12:23 PM
You missed the goodfellas ref.

Apparently, because I have no idea what you are talking about.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TrueGrit on April 23, 2013, 02:13:56 PM
OK, I will tell you. I have been working on keeping my posts a bit shorter, but I guess that didn't work here. Anyway, if you truly believe that we don't need fiber in our diets, can you provide some documentation to support that? I goes against what every dietician suggest is healthy. I don't usually take diet advice from muscle-heads because they rarely know what they are talking about. My reasoning is that there appears to be a disproportionate number of huge bodybuilders who die young from heart, liver and kidney failure.

You sure you're not on the sauce here, Prime?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439843.0;attach=484392;image)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 02:15:23 PM
Apparently, because I have no idea what you are talking about.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=kWKa_GO_3hc&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DkWKa_GO_3hc
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 02:24:48 PM
OK, I will tell you. I have been working on keeping my posts a bit shorter, but I guess that didn't work here. Anyway, if you truly believe that we don't need fiber in our diets, can you provide some documentation to support that? I goes against what every dietitian suggest is healthy. I don't usually take diet advice from muscle-heads because they rarely know what they are talking about. My reasoning is that there appears to be a disproportionate number of huge bodybuilders who die young from heart, liver and kidney failure.
Do you want to know why dietitians suggest fibre? because it helps, I suggest it to, but it is not needed, you can go years with out it and there will be no repercussion, maybe just a bit of constipation, you need to open your eyes and learn how to read, myself and disgusted never said it was not good for you, we simply stated that is not essential and the body does not require it.

In fact I stay away from all fibre when I diet because I increase my omega 3 fats and it helps twice as much as any dietary fibre, a far better alternative for your digestive system.

BTW I train people and prep them for bodybuilding contests, bodybuilders, physique competitors, figure girls and bikini girls and I have a lot of experience with trial and error. What i have found is when someone is taking plenty of healthy fats on a low carb diet, fibre is simply not needed and many preffer to go without it.

Let me know if you need another lesson on anything else  ;)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 23, 2013, 02:47:09 PM
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 23, 2013, 03:01:35 PM
In fact I stay away from all fibre when I diet because I increase my omega 3 fats and it helps twice as much as any dietary fibre, a far better alternative for your digestive system.
I do both, fiber from the oats and fish oil. Best of both worlds. Every morning I shit about 15lbs worth.  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 23, 2013, 03:08:03 PM
I do both, fiber from the oats and fish oil. Best of both worlds. Every morning I shit about 15lbs worth.  ;D

What's your ab workout...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 03:13:37 PM
I do both, fiber from the oats and fish oil. Best of both worlds. Every morning I shit about 15lbs worth.  ;D
:o :o :o
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 23, 2013, 03:22:02 PM
You sure you're not on the sauce here, Prime?

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439843.0;attach=484392;image)

I knew fucking Yeti's were real.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 23, 2013, 03:25:19 PM
What's your ab workout...
abs are made in the kitchen bro. i do very little "work" on them. combo crunch/leg raise at the edge of a bed or the floor once or twice a week. couple set until they burn like fuck.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: jaejonna on April 23, 2013, 05:49:34 PM
(http://i38.tinypic.com/rs8ncw.jpg)

not ashamed of how i looke here is my back pose


You sure your name is 'Marine', I thought it was 'Navy' with all the swimming you do.....
Gayer than saying your strongest event is the 100 meter Butterfly Stroke...hahahhaha oh brother ...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 05:53:06 PM
You sure your name is 'Marine', I thought it was 'Navy' with all the swimming you do.....
Gayer than saying your strongest event is the 100 meter Butterfly Stroke...hahahhaha oh brother ...
??? bro this guy makes swimmers look like Ronnie Coleman
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 06:42:44 PM
listen stupid, it is your digestive enzymes that dispel food and control your waist, fibre may soften your shit thus making it easier, but by no means does your body require it, wooooooooooosh the people here sometimes make me laugh-------------
exactly
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 06:54:35 PM
I do both, fiber from the oats and fish oil. Best of both worlds. Every morning I shit about 15lbs worth.  ;D

Ouch! This must mean that you read the entire newspaper while you are on the throne.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 23, 2013, 06:58:10 PM
Tbombz looking shredded. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: MP on April 23, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
How do you feel being in this condition? What is your energy level like?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 09:06:49 PM
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=439843.0;attach=484392;image)


  :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 23, 2013, 09:23:50 PM
Ouch! This must mean that you read the entire newspaper while you are on the throne.
nope, sucker is out and wraps around the bowl in 5 sec flat. imma pro shitter with all the oats and fish oil i take. lol
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 09:27:04 PM
(http://room162a.edublogs.org/files/2009/12/concentration-camps51.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 10:15:59 PM
nope, sucker is out and wraps around the bowl in 5 sec flat. imma pro shitter with all the oats and fish oil i take. lol

I am jealous! Old folks like me have a lasting relationship with the toilet. I think I shat three times today.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:22:03 PM
You sure your name is 'Marine', I thought it was 'Navy' with all the swimming you do.....
Gayer than saying your strongest event is the 100 meter Butterfly Stroke...hahahhaha oh brother ...

and your natty pic at 4.4% BF is where?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:23:14 PM
How do you feel being in this condition? What is your energy level like?

normal I have no energy problems
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:27:49 PM
Exactly, looks like straight out the Auschwitz concentration camp. No muscle size hell anyone can get ripped up but damn you got to have mass too to look worth a shit.

omg delusional phaggot

I CHALLENGE YOU

"anyone can get that ripped""

excpet that no one does


homo I am close to 4% BF

most people on here will have to lose

100 pounds of to ge there



please post your pic of 4% Bf and we will compare

not my problem when you weight 130 lbs

go eat a donnnut disrespectful piece of shit
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 10:29:34 PM
normal I have no energy problems

Don't get me wrong, but to be this cut, you must have a really low body fat count. How healthy do you think this is? Of course you may be genetically predisposed to being naturally cut, and I hope this is the case. Otherwise, you may be headed in the wrong direction.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:31:26 PM
Don't get me wrong, but to be this cut, you must have a really low body fat count. How healthy do you think this is? Of course you may be genetically predisposed to being naturally cut, and I hope this is the case. Otherwise, you may be headed in the wrong direction.

i've been in this condition for 6+ years. alive still.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
??? bro this guy makes swimmers look like Ronnie Coleman

omg delusional phaggot I could easly be 215 15% BF and claim, I ama  big guy.....

delusiona lphaggots
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 10:37:30 PM
i've been in this condition for 6+ years. alive still.

Then, like I previously suggested, this is your genetic norm. Some people would not be alive after 6+ years of such low body fat. I am not criticizing you, I hope you know, but not everyone can achieve this level of rippedness and still be healthy, this is all I am saying here.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 23, 2013, 10:41:44 PM
Then, like I previously suggested, this is your genetic norm. Some people would not be alive after 6+ years of such low body fat. I am not criticizing you, I hope you know, but not everyone can achieve this level of rippedness and still be healthy, this is all I am saying here.

not sure if serious====with low carb diet you can esly maintain 8 BF at least.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 10:47:52 PM
not sure if serious====with low carb diet you can esly maintain 8 BF at least.

Let's set the stage here. I am 68 years old. People my age tend to carry a bit more fat and a bit less muscle. I don't like this one bit. I eat to be lean and healthy. I exercise more then most folks my age. Genetically, I am predisposed to being very thin. The end result is that if I were at your bodyfat levels, I would probably be dying. I'd rather be a little less cut and be alive....just saying.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: cephissus on April 23, 2013, 10:57:50 PM
what do you eat?

and i dont mean

"500 g chicken"
"coffee"
"a stick of butter"

there's more to a diet than just a list of ingredients... how do you prepare your food?  any flavorings?  how do you cook it?  and so on
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
omg delusional phaggot I could easly be 215 15% BF and claim, I ama  big guy.....

delusiona lphaggots
I am delusional, WTF? seriously, you POS I know crackheads that are more ripped then you cause they smoke crack all day and don`t eat, you have 12 inch arms you fuck face, here is a pic of me at 4 % 6 years ago. When I had 30lb less muscle then I have now and still 3 times your size bitch at 184lb ad 5`9
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:29:41 PM
4% fuckface and guess what it means nothing if you have no muscle, you are delusional my friend, how ironic that you are tripping when everyone on this thread is calling you delusional, well guess what 4% right here and your still delusionalé
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 11:31:40 PM
 OTH is one of the very best body builders on this forum. He is dense. He is a beast. NO one should give him ANY shit.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 23, 2013, 11:31:59 PM
what do you eat?

and i dont mean

"500 g chicken"
"coffee"
"a stick of butter"

there's more to a diet than just a list of ingredients... how do you prepare your food?  any flavorings?  how do you cook it?  and so on

You did not address this to anyone in particular so I hope it is OK for me to reply.

My answers are:

I eat a balance of healthful foods and food that taste good, while trying to keep in mind nutritional needs.

What is healthy for me to eat at my age, may not be the same for someone younger.

In terms of preparation, I try and substitute healthy fats whenever possible and I attempt to watch my sodium intake, so I do not over salt foods in preparation. Also in terms of preparation, I try to eat foods which are not processed whenever possible. Even when I cook vegetables, I cook them as little as possible, often just steaming them.

Some flavorings are actually beneficial. Herbs are normally a good way to flavor foods, for example. Cinnamon and spicy peppers are considered to be healthy to eat. The bottom line is that there are spices which enhance the flavor of prepared foods and there are some ingredients which adulterate foods in a negative sense, such as salt, sugar and fats. The closer a prepared food is to its natural state, the healthier it is.

Chicken is not all it is cracked up to be, Much of the chicken we buy at the grocery store has been enhanced with growth hormones. I have not read a study which suggests these hormones die with the animal. In my opinion, most people don't need to eat foods which have been genetically altered with hormones.

Dairy is my downfall. I love loads of butter on baked potatoes. I also crave cheese which is very high in dairy fat. Don't even talk to me about homemade Hollandaise sauce on eggs, because anyone who has ever made it, knows that it is a huge fat overload.

We are no longer primitive creatures, scavenging for food for survival. We are sophisticated, evolved human beings who have very indulgent appetites for foods which are not always as healthful as the foods of our forefathers. Moreover, few of us spend the day using up calories and building muscle to hunt and gather food for sustenance. We are pretenders who hope to become unnaturally muscular via the intake of special (often unhealthy) diets and chemicals.  
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 11:36:24 PM
i've been in this condition for 6+ years. alive still.

You've been 4% bodyfat for 6 years? :-X

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

In that case it isn't hard work....it's genetics. So why are you looking for a pat on the back if you have no problem staying this way.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:40:00 PM
OTH is one of the very best body builders on this forum. He is dense. He is a beast. NO one should give him ANY shit.
I am normally not a mean guy but this guy is an asshole with a big mouth, someone made a thread about Yates the other day and this piece of shit out of no where starts calling him every name in the book. It`s all good to say Yates had a pregnant belly or shit arms or this and that but why hateful remarks?

This is a bodybuilding forum, this guy clearly hates all bodybuilders and he  does not even lift, in fact he is only ripped because he binges on recreational drugs. That`s right Marine you are a junky, straight up
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tu_holmes on April 23, 2013, 11:41:28 PM
You've been 4% bodyfat for 6 years? :-X

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

In that case it isn't hard work....it's genetics. So why are you looking for a pat on the back if you have no problem staying this way.

There were many Prison camp survivors who also stayed ripped for years.

:-\
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:41:55 PM
You've been 4% bodyfat for 6 years? :-X

 :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X

In that case it isn't hard work....it's genetics. So why are you looking for a pat on the back if you have no problem staying this way.
you`re right about that but it is genetics combined with rec drugs, tons of junkies are this shredded with 12 inch arms
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 11:42:07 PM
I am delusional, WTF? seriously, you POS I know crackheads that are more ripped then you cause they smoke crack all day and don`t eat, you have 12 inch arms you fuck face, here is a pic of me at 4 % 6 years ago. When I had 30lb less muscle then I have now and still 3 times your size bitch at 184lb ad 5`9
Great back double bi shot Onetime. A classic build.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 23, 2013, 11:42:39 PM
I am normally not a mean guy but this guy is an asshole with a big mouth, someone made a thread about Yates the other day and this piece of shit out of no where starts calling him every name in the book. It`s all good to say Yates had a pregnant belly or shit arms or this and that but why hateful remarks?

This is a bodybuilding forum, this guy clearly hates all bodybuilders and he  does not even lift, in fact he is only ripped because he binges on recreational drugs. That`s right Marine you are a junky, straight up

No junkie looks like him. Not one.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:44:47 PM
No junkie looks like him. Not one.
tons of them do, I have seen lots that do, especially in my neck of the woods
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:49:30 PM
You did not address this to anyone in particular so I hope it is OK for me to reply.

My answers are:

I eat a balance of healthful foods and food that taste good, while trying to keep in mind nutritional needs.

What is healthy for me to eat at my age, may not be the same for someone younger.

In terms of preparation, I try and substitute healthy fats whenever possible and I attempt to watch my sodium intake, so I do not over salt foods in preparation. Also in terms of preparation, I try to eat foods which are not processed whenever possible. Even when I cook vegetables, I cook them as little as possible, often just steaming them.

Some flavorings are actually beneficial. Herbs are normally a good way to flavor foods, for example. Cinnamon and spicy peppers are considered to be healthy to eat. The bottom line is that there are spices which enhance the flavor of prepared foods and there are some ingredients which adulterate foods in a negative sense, such as salt, sugar and fats. The closer a prepared food is to its natural state, the healthier it is.

Chicken is not all it is cracked up to be, Much of the chicken we buy at the grocery store has been enhanced with growth hormones. I have not read a study which suggests these hormones die with the animal. In my opinion, most people don't need to eat foods which have been genetically altered with hormones.

Dairy is my downfall. I love loads of butter on baked potatoes. I also crave cheese which is very high in dairy fat. Don't even talk to me about homemade Hollandaise sauce on eggs, because anyone who has ever made it, knows that it is a huge fat overload.

We are no longer primitive creatures, scavenging for food for survival. We are sophisticated, evolved human beings who have very indulgent appetites for foods which are not always as healthful as the foods of our forefathers. Moreover, few of us spend the day using up calories and building muscle to hunt and gather food for sustenance. We are pretenders who hope to become unnaturally muscular via the intake of special (often unhealthy) diets and chemicals.  
I hate to burst your bubble but cephissus is looking to stay lean year round and get ripped, I am pretty sure he does not want advise from someone who is not ripped, no offence bro but your not ripped right? so what benefits would your eating patterns you describe yield? health? This is forum were people want to lose bodyfat. I mean maybe I am wrong maybe cephissus is inquiring about diet towards health and not fat loss  ???
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 23, 2013, 11:50:10 PM
omg delusional phaggot

I CHALLENGE YOU

"anyone can get that ripped""

excpet that no one does


homo I am close to 4% BF

most people on here will have to lose

100 pounds of to ge there



please post your pic of 4% Bf and we will compare

not my problem when you weight 130 lbs

go eat a donnnut disrespectful piece of shit

Dude who wants to look like you? I understand if you don't have enough money to eat then I apologize and wish the best.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:50:39 PM
Great back double bi shot Onetime. A classic build.
Why thank you sir, your comment fulfilled my daily dose of attention (no homo)  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 23, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
http://www.hark.com/clips/rtsjpytqpx-somebody-get-that-kid-a-sandwich
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 23, 2013, 11:56:44 PM
Dude who wants to look like you? I understand if you don't have enough money to eat then I apologize and wish the best.
He does not have money for food cause he uses it all on his rec drug binges. :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 23, 2013, 11:59:35 PM
I have to agree with Onetimehard regarding one thing ..


Marine.. you ARE ripped. But you honestly do not resemble a bodybuilder. There are flyweight fighters with more muscle than you
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 23, 2013, 11:59:45 PM
I'll fuck this anorexic piece shit in the ass till his prostate bursts. Fucking bitch made PHAGGOT.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 12:05:20 AM
I'll fuck this anorexic piece shit in the ass till his prostate bursts. Fucking bitch made PHAGGOT.
bro you will break him in half. lmao  ;D

I have to agree with Onetimehard regarding one thing ..


Marine.. you ARE ripped. But you honestly do not resemble a bodybuilder. There are flyweight fighters with more muscle than you
He is delusional but in the opposite direction that we are used to seeing, normally delusion comes from the permabulker but occasionally it comes from someone who thinks Bruce Lee was huge.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 24, 2013, 12:08:14 AM
I admire that kind of conditioning. But we bodybuild. The guy has literally no muscle.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2013, 12:13:43 AM
I hate to burst your bubble but cephissus is looking to stay lean year round and get ripped, I am pretty sure he does not want advise from someone who is not ripped, no offence bro but your not ripped right? so what benefits would your eating patterns you describe yield? health? This is forum were people want to lose bodyfat. I mean maybe I am wrong maybe cephissus is inquiring about diet towards health and not fat loss  ???

If you are correct, then Cephissus should take my post under advisement. Also, he did not specify who he was hoping to get responses from. Therefore my response, as should any response be on a take it or leave it basis.

No offense taken. I am not ripped. I am simply a healthy and fit old man with more muscle then the average Joe. The benefits of my food philosophy is about long term health benefits. I am not opposed to anyone being ripped, I wish I was one of them, but I am not willing to jeopardize my health to become so.

If my post was off base, anyone is free to ignore it.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2013, 12:15:54 AM
I admire that kind of conditioning. But we bodybuild. The guy has literally no muscle.

I disagree. He has as much muscle as most fit men might hope to  have. What he lacks is the fat layer which most of us have covering that muscle up.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 12:52:46 AM
I am delusional, WTF? seriously, you POS I know crackheads that are more ripped then you cause they smoke crack all day and don`t eat, you have 12 inch arms you fuck face, here is a pic of me at 4 % 6 years ago. When I had 30lb less muscle then I have now and still 3 times your size bitch at 184lb ad 5`9

YOU ARE NOT NATURAL AND YOU KNOW IT

5'9 184 4% hormonized so please stfup

ur true weight is 150lbs top. so stfup you tanned piece of garbage

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 12:53:20 AM
I admire that kind of conditioning. But we bodybuild. The guy has literally no muscle.

and you look like shit even on steroids and you know it
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 12:55:39 AM
what do you eat?

and i dont mean

"500 g chicken"
"coffee"
"a stick of butter"

there's more to a diet than just a list of ingredients... how do you prepare your food?  any flavorings?  how do you cook it?  and so on

here's what I eat you hormonized homo

http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=52236 (http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=52236)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 12:56:32 AM
I admire that kind of conditioning. But we bodybuild. The guy has literally no muscle.

whne did i say i was a bodybuilda
 u fucking hotmo

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 01:49:09 AM
YOU ARE NOT NATURAL AND YOU KNOW IT

5'9 184 4% hormonized so please stfup

ur true weight is 150lbs top. so stfup you tanned piece of garbage


never said I was natural, however I was 4% in high school, pretty much one the most leanest in the entire school and I was above 160 lb so still toppled you when I was natural and as a teenager to boot.

serious Q; how much can you bench press?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 01:52:11 AM
here's what I eat you hormonized homo

http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=52236 (http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=52236)
No cephissus is one of the naturals on here and why all the anger, you will get sunk here with this behaviour bro, by all means continue, I mean you are already getting raped here you fool.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:03:03 AM
never said I was natural, however I was 4% in high school, pretty much one the most leanest in the entire school and I was above 160 lb so still toppled you when I was natural and as a teenager to boot.

serious Q; how much can you bench press?

120kg x 2 best bench

and moron

we all know ur weight natural

150 - top

piece of shit

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:04:01 AM
120kg x 2
not bad :-\
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:06:52 AM
No cephissus is one of the naturals on here and why all the anger, you will get sunk here with this behaviour bro, by all means continue, I mean you are already getting raped here you fool.

sure i am getting raped

and that's why in one day i received 10 personal messages of people asking me how to get shredded some if them were streoid users

sure

come at me bro
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 02:36:35 AM
No cephissus is one of the naturals on here and why all the anger, you will get sunk here with this behaviour bro, by all means continue, I mean you are already getting raped here you fool.

Yes bro he is skating on ice as thin as his biceps in this thread.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 24, 2013, 02:52:50 AM
whne did i say i was a bodybuilda
 u fucking hotmo


I gave you props for your conditioning. I notice that you lost all your common sense along with your muscles, Skeletor.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 02:59:12 AM
I gave you props for your conditioning. I notice that you lost all your common sense along with your muscles, Skeletor.

Are you saying that 'marine' got turned down by the suicide vest division of Al Queeda on the grounds that what looks like an approaching kite would probably arouse suspicion among crowds Sev?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 24, 2013, 03:27:30 AM
Are you saying that 'marine' got turned down by the suicide vest division of Al Queeda on the grounds that what looks like an approaching kite would probably arouse suspicion among crowds Sev?
I know we joke a lot. But, on a serious note, he was used in secret experiments to render a person invisible. Maybe that's why he is so angry at people.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 03:29:08 AM
Are you saying that 'marine' got turned down by the suicide vest division of Al Queeda on the grounds that what looks like an approaching kite would probably arouse suspicion among crowds Sev?

are you saying that every time he looks at an x ray he thinks he is looking in the mirror cyp

or are you saying that he cant have a pet dog because they keep trying to bury him in the garden
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 03:30:56 AM
Ne vedi sebia kak dyrak, nachinaesh sdes problemi teba prosto vistaviat iz foruma....ya teba predupridil.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 03:36:02 AM
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR 4,4% BF PICS

naturals

ROFL,,,,, you pieces of shits


NOT GONNA HAPPEn

in the meanwhile I keep receiving personal messages asking me questions on how to get shredded

rofl....,,,,,,,,,,

you delusional morons

gh15 was right...,,,,,about limits

you mad


STILL WAITING FOR YOUR NATTY PICS At 4.4% BF

STILL WAIING

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 03:37:05 AM
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR 4,4% BF PICS

naturals

ROFL,,,,, you pieces of shits


NOT GONNA HAPPEn

in the meanwhile I keep receiving personal messages asking me questions on how to get shredded

rofl....,,,,,,,,,,

you delusional morons

gh15 was right...,,,,,about limits

you mad


STILL WAITING FOR YOUR NATTY PICS At 4.4% BF

STILL WAIING



is the pm from get big beta bj181 by any chance
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 03:38:57 AM
Give the guy a break bigmc

Anywhere you like, it shouldn't take much effort hahaha  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 03:39:06 AM
is the pm from get big beta bj181 by any chance

LMAO
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 03:41:14 AM
Give the guy a break bigmc

Anywhere you like, it shouldn't take much effort hahaha  ;D

are you saying that every time marine goes into toys are us people start picking at him with forceps trying not to set off a buzzer on his nose cyp
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 03:43:04 AM
is the pm from get big beta bj181 by any chance

no i received a massage from galeniko, lightweight and a few more....

not bigj whtever

all asking about diet

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 03:45:02 AM
are you saying that every time marine goes into toys are us people start picking at him with forceps trying not to set off a buzzer on his nose cyp

Ahahaha yes  ;D

He was recently mobbed by paparazzi while doing a half turn pose in the park, they thought he was Dynamo doing an invisible illusion
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 03:46:35 AM
no i received a massage from galeniko, lightweight and a few more....

not bigj whtever

all asking about diet



Did you do the honourable thing and forward the pm's to someone who eats food, so they can answer the questions?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 03:49:14 AM
Did you do the honourable thing and forward the pm's to someone who eats food, so they can answer the questions?

did you see my fucking log? moron? did you ? 3700 calories a day on AVERAGE

go eat your complex carbs and dream you will be as ripped as me even at 100lbs bodyweight\

fucking disgarace to your mother that;s waht u are

PEOPLE NEED MY INFORMATION because i can tell you what to eat and be shredded 5% BF while eating 3000+calories a day.........NATURAL

I've helped so may people get masively shredded it's not even fun...........

delusional morons

STILL WAITING FOR NATTY PICS at 4-5% BF....
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 03:52:44 AM
Ne vedi sebia kak dyrak, nachinaesh sdes problemi teba prosto vistaviat iz foruma....ya teba predupridil.

what language is that you fucking moron

i guess you as stupid as it gets...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 24, 2013, 04:37:51 AM
lol dude you are taking there baits to easy.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TrueGrit on April 24, 2013, 05:01:22 AM
lol dude you are taking there baits to easy.

Maybe he is trolling them?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kim Jong Bob on April 24, 2013, 05:09:18 AM
Maybe he is trolling them?
i sure hope so for his own sake
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: oldtimer1 on April 24, 2013, 05:24:39 AM
I see this thread has gone completely in a typical getbig direction. This has to be one of the most unintentionally funny boards on the internet.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 24, 2013, 05:25:04 AM
This has to be a joke. A line has to be drawn somewhere. I admire discipline but we are bodybuilders not jail escape artists
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:28:02 AM
This has to be a joke. A line has to be drawn somewhere. I admire discipline but we are bodybuilders not jail escape artists

u call yourself bodybuilda and yet you look like chithole and u are not even natural

da faq

fucking joke

go eat carbs brotha
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 24, 2013, 05:30:46 AM
sev waxes you physique wise who the hell wants to look like you? I have not seen one positive comment here about your condition. 4% who gives damn if you like shit in the mirror?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 24, 2013, 05:36:31 AM
essential bodyfat for fellas is 3%

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:38:37 AM
sev waxes you physique wise who the hell wants to look like you? I have not seen one positive comment here about your condition. 4% who gives damn if you like shit in the mirror?

if nobody cares why i have 15 messages received in onde day all asking about diet ?????????????????????????????????

i will reveal all the secrets of getting shredded in this blog: http://irongangsta.blogspot.com/ (http://irongangsta.blogspot.com/)

they offered my 100 dollars for writing articles on getting shredded....

I also have written for (http://simply shredded .com) and men's health ( i wrote an article on dragon flag guys and got payed 1000 dollars - u mad?)

so

yeah

who would want to be that shredded at alsmot 40 years old....

and where is your pic....

pupils getting shredded for naturals - soon on irongansta...motherfucka ss.s....

wait and see
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:41:57 AM
sev waxes you physique wise who the hell wants to look like you? I have not seen one positive comment here about your condition. 4% who gives damn if you like shit in the mirror?

and who would like to look like you

where is ur pic

keep it coming keep it coming soon everybody will know the truth

gh15----started it I finished

bodybuilding revival true nattys united

soon iron gangsta truth about getting shrdded like a mofo NATTY

NATTY APPROVEd
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: NordicNerd on April 24, 2013, 05:42:54 AM
STILL WAITING FOR YOUR 4,4% BF PICS

naturals

ROFL,,,,, you pieces of shits
...


Meltdown, really bad meltdown!

NN
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:44:39 AM
Meltdown, really bad meltdown!

NN

meltdown


are u smoking I achieved conditionning what around 1% on this forums has achieved......

NOT A SINGLE DRUG TAKEN..no eca no deca, no effedra

soon on irongangsta blog...truth will know all natty wanting to see lower bac ktree in the back

i know how i tell you

delui
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 24, 2013, 05:45:24 AM
if nobody cares why i have 15 messages received in onde day all asking about diet ?????????????????????????????????

i will reveal all the secrets of getting shredded in this blog: http://irongangsta.blogspot.com/ (http://irongangsta.blogspot.com/)

they offered my 100 dollars for writing articles on getting shredded....

I also have written for (http://simply shredded .com) and men's health ( i wrote an article on dragon flag guys and got payed 1000 dollars - u mad?)

so

yeah

who would want to be that shredded at alsmot 40 years old....

and where is your pic....

pupils getting shredded for naturals - soon on irongansta...motherfucka ss.s....

wait and see
My pic has been posted many times here. Its on the Y board - Soapy Studs page 42. I didnt know mental institutions let people get on the internet now.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:46:32 AM
My pic has been posted many times here. Its on the Y board - Soapy Studs page 42. I didnt know mental institutions let people get on the internet now.

post it here - not gonna waist time searching for it

i am pretty sure you phat or not natty

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dj181 on April 24, 2013, 05:50:43 AM
you're ripped no doubt but your structure is sub-par seeing as your hips and waist are as wide as your shoulders

(http://spider.noxis.net/pub/milko/jedi/hound%202012-09-09.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 05:57:50 AM
you're ripped no doubt but your structure is sub-par seeing as your hips and waist are as wide as your shoulders

(http://spider.noxis.net/pub/milko/jedi/hound%202012-09-09.jpg)

oh really ? why should I give fucks? I achieved what 1% here achieved

my structure ? how can i change it ? how ? u are brain damaged

the truth about getting on irdon gangsta blogspot (unless someone pays more ..,,,now is the time )

natty i will save you - show you the way to complete shreddeness,,,,,soon,,,,,

ANY SITE WHO NEEDS MY HELP PAY ME MORE THAN 100USD AND U HAVE THE SECRET FOR 4% bf (MY RECORDS IS 3.9%) BF

irongagstas------structure sub-par really? get a grip
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: kyomu on April 24, 2013, 06:05:14 AM
Paper thin skin. Very good.
Now time to get thick.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 06:10:05 AM
Marine melting like a home fondue kit in this thread
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:13:43 AM
Marine melting like a home fondue kit in this thread

I AM NOT MELTING YOU SON OF BITCH

i know the truth on getting shredded

irongagsta.f.dblogpsot. com ---- -d--d-d-d-d sooon will be uploaded and spread accorss the world

FAT BURNERS SELLARS< EFFEDRA DEALERS , DNP GET READY

the secret to getting shredded will be revealed and you will be on the streee....t.tt..t.t.thom elss..s.s


SPREAD T"HE KNOW LEDGe
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 06:15:42 AM
Calm down bro and eat a fig newton or something.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:19:20 AM
Calm down bro and eat a fig newton or something.

i gonna crush you in real life

u know that??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

u paper homo sapines

I have supreme many  pacquiao like conditionning can you handle it ??????????

can u handle the speed and agility of a 4.4 % BF person---

fatso?????????????
 

any answer ---- sooon the truth on irongangsra,blogger.com

soon

NATTY ÜNITED NATION APPROVEd

eat
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TrueGrit on April 24, 2013, 06:21:08 AM
gimmick
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:23:39 AM
gimmick

gimmcicicik? wtf?

i guess u can't get shreded as a natty - - - -
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 06:33:30 AM
Too much protein... much semen make Marine mad, Marine suck protein from the protein pole.

Meltdown rant in 3...2...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 24, 2013, 06:34:09 AM
gimmick
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 24, 2013, 06:35:06 AM
Mangina is doing a good job of double bluff trolling, while linking to his personal business site in this thread.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 06:40:29 AM
The guys at the gym also laugh at you...hilarious

I think one is trying to mouth "douch"....
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:42:28 AM
Mangina is doing a good job of double bluff trolling, while linking to his personal business site in this thread.

noooo,,,,mother fuckar i HAVE NOT POSTED A single link ot my site (there is a link in my registration in the forum with my nutrition) that my site

I am a personal trainer............,,,,and own three gyms.........

i train people and i am the head of those three gyms.................my

business site is not irongangsta

i a moffered from time to time to write for many sites ---- like men's health, simplyshredded....etc

and i was offered by iron ganga

that's it

they will pay me 100 dollars for each article and I can write

as much as I want.........

so suckas wanna see my real site you have to go the link with the food log

not gonna post here....cause

accused

STILL WAITING FOR YOUR PICS at $.,4% BF
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 06:42:46 AM
Dudes getting mad cause another broski is shredded....nothing new. Happens all the time. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:44:10 AM
The guys at the gym also laugh at you...hilarious

I think one is trying to mouth "douch"....

YES LAÜGHING but I own this gym

and I train them

look how they are fat in the pic

with my help that usually get to 8% BF with very little effort

because I know how dieting works

and that's why I own three gyms

THREE

two of them in the center of the town

so u are welcome to come and train
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 06:46:31 AM
YES LAÜGHING but I own this gym

and I train them

look how they are fat in the pic

with my help that usually get to 8% BF with very little effort

because I know how dieting works

and that's why I own three gyms

THREE

two of them in the center of the town

so u are welcome to come and train

Where you located brah? I'd take some trainng with you when I'm in town on business.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 06:50:13 AM
Where you located brah? I'd take some trainng with you when I'm in town on business.


i am located in sofia, bulgaria.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 06:51:54 AM
i am located in sofia, bulgaria.
cool
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 06:59:42 AM
gimmick
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 07:03:30 AM
gimmick
Fuck off!!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 07:10:05 AM
gimmick

gimmick what?

being able to achieve what 1% here achieve?

gimick what???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

u know i am the truth

paper thin skin,,,,,,,insane conditionning by simpy - not eating COMLEX CARBS

i will spread the knowledge

I helped thousands of people get shredded

soon

effedra addicts
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 07:12:20 AM
Dude what do you think of crunches vs. incline sit ups? cybex ab machine?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 07:17:53 AM
Dude what do you think of crunches vs. incline sit ups? cybex ab machine?

i like dragon flag the most

crunches and sit-ups waist of time

cool ab exercises are

dragon flag, ab roller, push and pull on cable cross over machine, planks, flying ass, saxon bends, renegade rows.....that's what i do

but it;s akk diet SOON remember SOON tth truth
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 07:18:37 AM
lots of shit gimmicks smoking each others cocks in this thread
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 07:21:07 AM
lots of shit gimmicks smoking each others cocks in this thread

suck cock
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
suck cock

i know you do

it looks like you have teh aids
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 07:35:35 AM
i know you do

it looks like you have teh aids
Dude why don't you leave the kid alone?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 07:36:49 AM
Dude why don't you leave the kid alone?

are you his bff twinkles  :-*
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 07:38:35 AM
are you his bff twinkles  :-*
That's not how bros operate, asswipe.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: el numero uno on April 24, 2013, 07:38:42 AM
(http://s8.postimg.org/y1r5q8jhx/homo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image (http://postimage.org/)

one more for the guys


i am done no more i quit

lol why  ???
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 07:39:56 AM
That's not how bros operate, asswipe.

ok the anal  ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Kwon_2 on April 24, 2013, 07:40:01 AM
lol why  ???
(http://s8.postimg.org/y1r5q8jhx/homo.jpg)

He's trying to reach Tbombz-status, but everyone knows that's impossible! :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: njflex on April 24, 2013, 09:06:50 AM
THREAD JUMPED THE SHARK..GIMMICK...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 24, 2013, 10:13:17 AM
did you see my fucking log? moron? did you ? 3700 calories a day on AVERAGE

go eat your complex carbs and dream you will be as ripped as me even at 100lbs bodyweight\

fucking disgarace to your mother that;s waht u are

PEOPLE NEED MY INFORMATION because i can tell you what to eat and be shredded 5% BF while eating 3000+calories a day.........NATURAL

I've helped so may people get masively shredded it's not even fun...........

delusional morons

STILL WAITING FOR NATTY PICS at 4-5% BF....

Again, if this is true you are a genetic freak. I'm not going to praise you because you are a genetic freak. I'll praise you because you work hard. And since we've already come to the conclusion it is easy for you to stay lean, I'm not going to praise you for "working hard to build muscle" because you have very little of it.

Even I may have more than you and that's not saying much. :-\
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: funk51 on April 24, 2013, 10:19:06 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:43:17 AM
Marine,

I destroy you and I eat a ton of carbs and am lifetime Natural.

Just thought I`d say it.  ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329841.0;attach=373712;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424687;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424689;image)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 10:44:08 AM
Marine,

I destroy you and I eat a ton of carbs and am lifetime Natural.

Just thought I`d say it.  ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329841.0;attach=373712;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424687;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424689;image)

those pics are 5 years old

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:44:56 AM
;)

this dude is 6'2 120 lbs - 3-5% BF

I am 6' 167lbs 4.4% BF

i got solid 47 lbs of LBM on him and I am an two inches shorter

ONCE AGAIN homo where is ur PIC

tth truth is coming

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:45:06 AM
those pics are 5 years old


Nope.
 :-\
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=475326.0;attach=515555;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=396050.0;attach=430668;image)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:45:46 AM
Marine,

I destroy you and I eat a ton of carbs and am lifetime Natural.

Just thought I`d say it.  ;)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=329841.0;attach=373712;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424687;image)

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424689;image)

PHAGGOT YOU ARE NOT NATÜRAL SO STFUP

ur face is screaming - I AM HORMONIZED AND I TAKE COCK IN THE TEH DICK
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 10:46:12 AM
Nope.

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=475326.0;attach=515555;image)

you havent posted a new pic for years
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:46:52 AM
you havent posted a new pic for years
::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
PHAGGOT YOU ARE NOT NATÜRAL SO STFUP

ur face is screaming - I AM HORMONIZED AND I TAKE COCK IN THE TEH DICK
Hate to break it to you skinny, but I am Lifetime Natural.

You aren`t that great at all.  You look REALLY flat.  Its time you eat some carbs I think.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 24, 2013, 10:47:49 AM
::)


sorry is that a new pic

if so you are owning the marine

props  8)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:48:20 AM
Again, if this is true you are a genetic freak. I'm not going to praise you because you are a genetic freak. I'll praise you because you work hard. And since we've already come to the conclusion it is easy for you to stay lean, I'm not going to praise you for "working hard to build muscle" because you have very little of it.

Even I may have more than you and that's not saying much. :-\

i am not a genetic freak

when you got on low carb diet YOU CAN EAT TONS OF CALORIES AND NOT GET FAT

u just don't know it cause people are telling you you need carbs fibers and shit

eat only meat eggs and butter for 6 months - 3700 calories and come oat me SHREDDED.

THE TRUTH WILL BE POSTESD SOON ON IRONGANGA.blogspot.com
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:49:01 AM
i am not a genetic freak

when you got on low carb diet YOU CAN EAT TONS OF CALORIES AND NOT GET FAT

u just don't know it cause people are telling you you need carbs fibers and shit

eat only meat eggs and butter for 6 months - 3700 calories and come oat me SHREDDED.

THE TRUTH WILL BE POSTESD SOON ON IRONGANGA.blogspot.com
Who would want to eat like that?  I take it you don`t know how to cook anything.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:49:33 AM
Hate to break it to you skinny, but I am Lifetime Natural.

You aren`t that great at all.  You look REALLY flat.  Its time you eat some carbs I think.

YOU CAN CLAIM WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT YOUR FACE IS SCREAMINH

HORMONIZED

AND YOU KNOW IT

LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND ASK YOU THIS

WHY AM I SUCH A PHAGGOT THAT I NEED TO  LIE ON FORUMS >>>??/
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 24, 2013, 10:55:03 AM
i am not a genetic freak

when you got on low carb diet YOU CAN EAT TONS OF CALORIES AND NOT GET FAT

u just don't know it cause people are telling you you need carbs fibers and shit

eat only meat eggs and butter for 6 months - 3700 calories and come oat me SHREDDED.

THE TRUTH WILL BE POSTESD SOON ON IRONGANGA.blogspot.com

Okay. I look forward to "the truth".
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 10:55:41 AM
YOU CAN CLAIM WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT YOUR FACE IS SCREAMINH

HORMONIZED

AND YOU KNOW IT

LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND ASK YOU THIS

WHY AM I SUCH A PHAGGOT THAT I NEED TO  LIE ON FORUMS >>>??/
Whatever you have to tell yourself for you own inadequacies. "phaggot".
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:59:21 AM
Whatever you have to tell yourself for you own inadequacies. "phaggot".

you are hormonized and even a baby can tell
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: funk51 on April 24, 2013, 10:59:55 AM
this dude is 6'2 120 lbs - 3-5% BF

I am 6' 167lbs 4.4% BF

i got solid 47 lbs of LBM on him and I am an two inches shorter

ONCE AGAIN homo where is ur PIC

tth truth is coming


not a homo[not that there's anything wrong with that] my pics are all over the place on here. your very ripped i'll give you that, add some size and you'll look good. just kidding you dude, good luck with your training.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 11:03:03 AM
you are hormonized and even a baby can tell
::)
This just proves to me you don`t know a thing you are talking about.  So much for your groundbreaking "articles".

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 24, 2013, 11:04:43 AM
you are hormonized and even a baby can tell
True Adonis crushes you physique wise, sorry. You are the fag dude why are you posting pics of your ass?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 11:07:52 AM
Falcon in the light 200s embarrasses this guy.

(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/tstxtblko.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 11:11:09 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/evilballa.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 11:13:34 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/Picture581sre.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The True Adonis on April 24, 2013, 11:16:14 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig2007.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: funk51 on April 24, 2013, 11:27:37 AM
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y256/honigga/getbig2007.jpg)
current falcon would eat this guy alive literally. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 11:35:44 AM
current falcon would eat this guy alive literally. ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

weight, height bf ercentage

this guy has used effedra and fat burners to get that shredded

not natural

the truth is coming

gh15 started I finish
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 24, 2013, 11:46:50 AM
(http://fans.mybspn.com/files/2012/11/ham_cheese_sandwich-5893.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: RRKore on April 24, 2013, 11:49:31 AM
Ninja, please.  Marine, is this GetEmaciated.com?  Is it StayNatural.com?  I think not.

Bottom-line, you look like shit.  I hope this helps.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tu_holmes on April 24, 2013, 11:55:20 AM
weight, height bf ercentage

this guy has used effedra and fat burners to get that shredded

not natural

the truth is coming

gh15 started I finish

Well, that explains a lot.

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 24, 2013, 11:57:33 AM
Ninja, please.  Marine, is this GetEmaciated.com?  Is it StayNatural.com?  I think not.

Bottom-line, you look like shit.  I hope this helps.

I legitimately laughed out loud at that one. ;D

Marine looks good. He can afford to eat a little more and has no risk of putting on adipose tissue. Anyone who's been lean for a long time knows how forgiving a shredded body is. It'll tear right through a few hundred extra calories each day with EASE. Would need to eat a good amount of shit to blur any of his definition. I'm envious. I've dieted down to around the same leanness but I have zero control over my eating right now. My eating is as erratic as a pregnant woman's eating patterns right now.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 24, 2013, 12:01:00 PM
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/1075zoofm.com/files/2011/10/sandwich.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 12:17:58 PM
You're going to plagiarize Atkins?....is that the big discovery? No carbs and eat all meat cheese mayo and no sugar.....is that the "truth"?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 12:26:49 PM
You're going to plagiarize Atkins?....is that the big discovery? No carbs and eat all meat cheese mayo and no sugar.....is that the "truth"?


NO

ATKINS IS WRONG
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: dustin on April 24, 2013, 12:47:27 PM
(http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/1075zoofm.com/files/2011/10/sandwich.jpg)

BLT of peace. ::)





;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 12:53:29 PM
Honestly Marine doesn't even look like he lifts he's just skinny.

Adonis and Falco are natty are definitely more superior.

And that not eating carbs or any fiber will destroy your digestive system sooner or later. That's not healthy at all.

Also I think Marine is just naturally skinny..your frame to me looks like it won't hold too much muscle.



Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 01:08:35 PM
Honestly Marine doesn't even look like he lifts he's just skinny.

Adonis and Falco are natty are definitely more superior.

And that not eating carbs or any fiber will destroy your digestive system sooner or later. That's not healthy at all.

Also I think Marine is just naturally skinny..your frame to me looks like it won't hold too much muscle.





your pic where?> IU dont; see it/?


they are not natty and they now it

fucking liars

TTTHE TRUTH WILL COME ON GANGA

blog...

eat shit liars
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 01:20:19 PM
your pic where?> IU dont; see it/?


they are not natty and they now it

fucking liars

TTTHE TRUTH WILL COME ON GANGA

blog...

eat shit liars



1. Don't throw rocks if you live in a glass house.
2. Why are you upset?
3. What was the purpose of this thread? Is there something you want to prove?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 01:24:43 PM
lol why  ???

x2
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 01:29:21 PM
because i am here to desroy the lies,,,the lies fellas
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: HappyGorilla on April 24, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
You're not even shredded douche bag. In that naked pic you still have fat on your glutes you fag, and lower back. Even in the bullshit lighting pictures you posted you still have fat on your lower back.  In the normal lighting picture you look to be 7 ish.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on April 24, 2013, 01:30:50 PM
The gimmick is strong in this one. Some intrepid GBer will eventually find out who's pics he's using....LOL.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 01:32:46 PM
x2

Dude he is obviously a gimmick trying to SELL shit here in GETBIG.

He is trying to sell his stupid method. Method that is obviously dumb

No carbs to get his physique? Might as well starve your self and you'll get the same look...very naive in my opinion

And Marine just accept the fact that your doing your shit wrong. Clearly Adonis and Falcon are naturals

Get your nutrition right and I bet you'll look better than some one who has an eating disorder.

Layne is a natty and he clearly makes you look like a child. He also doesnt do no carbs

JUST STOP SELLING UR SHIT HERE
 
AND FUCK YOUR GANG-GAY BLOG
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 01:34:06 PM
because i am here to desroy the lies,,,the lies fellas

I can't imagine how cold you must feel walking around 4% BF, mornings must suck trying to get out of bed, muscles wouldn't respond or get pump at all when training








Unless...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 01:34:53 PM
Dude he is obviously a gimmick trying to SELL shit here in GETBIG.

He is trying to sell his stupid method. Method that is obviously dumb

No carbs to get his physique? Might as well starve your self and you'll get the same look...very naive in my opinion

And Marine just accept the fact that your doing your shit wrong. Clearly Adonis and Falcon are naturals

Get your nutrition right and I bet you'll look better than some one who has an eating disorder.

Layne is a natty and he clearly makes you look like a child. He also doesnt do no carbs

JUST STOP SELLING UR SHIT HERE
 
AND FUCK YOUR GANG-GAY BLOG


LAYNE IS A NATTY?

lIAR NORTON IS A NATTY ?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 01:36:15 PM
You're not even shredded douche bag. In that naked pic you still have fat on your glutes you fag, and lower back. Even in the bullshit lighting pictures you posted you still have fat on your lower back.  In the normal lighting picture you look to be 7 ish.

I AM NOT 4.4 in ass picture it was taken year ago

hahaha 7 ish - havent been 7 ish since decades

ONE OF THE PIC I AM 3.9 BF

the truth will soon come.....
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Just stop it, you're embarrassing yourself GH15, we know it's you.


Did you get permission to use this guys pictures for your gimmick? Is he one of your clients?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
I AM NOT 4.4 in ass picture it was taken year ago

hahaha 7 ish - havent been 7 ish since decades

ONE OF THE PIC I AM 3.9 BF

the truth will soon come.....

DUDE SRSLY "The truth will soon cum"...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 01:46:47 PM
LAYNE IS A NATTY?

lIAR NORTON IS A NATTY ?

Layne is def a natty..DEAL W/ IT

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM MMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 01:52:06 PM
I don't even care that he is a gimmick of GH15. That's ok. He is just here to troll a little from time to time, which is somewhat understandable since he seems to be such a serious and tenacious guy.

But no carb diets doesn't produce a physique like that. And a no carb diet also accumulates brain damage over time.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 01:56:27 PM
Just stop it, you're embarrassing yourself GH15, we know it's you.


Did you get permission to use this guys pictures for your gimmick? Is he one of your clients?


why do u think am gh15 (Sr!)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 01:58:06 PM
I don't even care that he is a gimmick of GH15. That's ok. He is just here to troll a little from time to time, which is somewhat understandable since he seems to be such a serious and tenacious guy.

But no carb diets doesn't produce a physique like that. And a no carb diet also accumulates brain damage over time.

Explains why he is so delusional..and out of sync with reality...sad fellow  :'(

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:04:07 PM
Do you guys not see what is going on here?

He did not start off as a gimmick but since he got fucken raped to oblivion instead of walking away humiliated, he starts trolling hard to save face and then at the end he can claim that he trolled us the whole time.

plain and simple but it won't work, you just got busted.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:05:38 PM
YOU CAN CLAIM WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT YOUR FACE IS SCREAMINH

HORMONIZED

AND YOU KNOW IT

LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR AND ASK YOU THIS

WHY AM I SUCH A PHAGGOT THAT I NEED TO  LIE ON FORUMS >>>??/
This is the only post I read, and I already can tell it's a gimmick.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:05:53 PM
Do you guys not see what is going on here?

He did not start off as a gimmick but since he got fucken raped to oblivion instead of walking away humiliated, he starts trolling hard to save face and then at they end he can claimed that he trolled us the whole time.

plain and simple but it won't work, you just got busted.

omg not sure if serious

i have 20 meessage in my mail box....................f rom people asking

i did my jobs spreading the truth
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:06:33 PM
Okay. I look forward to "the truth".
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:06:45 PM
This is the only post I read, and I already can tell it's a gimmick.

what do u mean here by gimmcij? i dont understandt 100%
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:08:01 PM
Layne is def a natty..DEAL W/ IT

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMM MMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Layne.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Rami on April 24, 2013, 02:08:39 PM
why do u think am gh15 (Sr!)

Because of literally everything in your posts. But that ok like I said, you can admit it to me and I wouldn't even tell because I don't really care. Just admit it in a PM, and test my word, get it off your chest so to speak.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:09:01 PM
omg not sure if serious

i have 20 meessage in my mail box....................f rom people asking

i did my jobs spreading the truth
it's too late to play the troll game, you did not act this way at the beginning of the thread, you were fishing for compliments and were trying to act serious and it back fired so now you switched to trolling so you don't get embarrassed, too late.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:10:11 PM
what do u mean here by gimmcij? i dont understandt 100%
You wouldn't be this defensive if you had just signed up. You wouldn't be calling out long time members either. You would just be happy to fit in. Like I said many times. I don't believe anyone is who they say they are, unless they can post a specific pic to prove it.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:13:19 PM
You wouldn't be this defensive if you had just signed up. You wouldn't be calling out long tome members either. You would just be happy to fit in. Like I said many times. I don't believe anyone is who they say they are, unless they can post a specific pic to prove it.
Bro, this guy started off real then when he got the getbig rush he started acting like a gimmick and mocking gh15 vocabulary so we can think he was a gimmick this whole time and that way he did not get embarrassed and humiliated, fuck guys can't you read between the lines.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:15:46 PM
You wouldn't be this defensive if you had just signed up. You wouldn't be calling out long time members either. You would just be happy to fit in. Like I said many times. I don't believe anyone is who they say they are, unless they can post a specific pic to prove it.

what kind of pic do you want?

I have been reading getbig for at least a year before registering
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:15:54 PM
Bro, this guy started off real then when he got the getbig rush he started acting like a gimmick and mocking gh15 vocabulary so we can think he was a gimmick this whole time and that way he did not get embarrassed and humiliated, fuck guys can't you read between the lines.
Thats if he lurked for along time before signing up. You just don't come in knowing the getbig lingo, and all of it's history.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on April 24, 2013, 02:16:44 PM
Bro, this guy started off real then when he got the getbig rush he started acting like a gimmick and mocking gh15 vocabulary so we can think he was a gimmick this whole time and that way he did not get embarrassed and humiliated, fuck guys can't you read between the lines.

Some of us read between the lines just fine and wonder why people argue and try to insult an obvious gimmick. That's exactly what he wants to happen.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:17:22 PM
what kind of pic do you want?

I have been reading getbig for at least a year before registering
A pic with your 4% body holding a sign that says "fuck you Shizzo". You can include the face, but I am more worried about matching the body up.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:19:43 PM
Some of us read between the lines just fine and wonder why people argue and try to insult an obvious gimmick. That's exactly what he wants to happen.
All I am saying is his original posts were not gimmick, they were real but since he got embarrassed he is now posting as a hardcore gimmick, making it seem that he was a gimmick the whole time and you guys are buying it.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:20:15 PM
Can't I peruse these hallowed boards with the expectation that I won't be confronted by (admittedly shredded) man ass and floppy cockshots? It seems not.
Is it a coincidence that you pop in at this moment?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:20:39 PM
All I am saying is his original posts were not gimmick, they were real but since he got embarrassed he is now posting as a hardcore gimmick, making it seem that he was a gimmick the whole time and you guys are buying it.

WTF DOES GIMMICK MEAN IDIOT............
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:21:13 PM
WTF DOES GIMMICK MEAN IDIOT............
SILENCE
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:21:34 PM
All I am saying is his original posts were not gimmick, they were real but since he got embarrassed he is now posting as a hardcore gimmick, making it seem that he was a gimmick the whole time and you guys are buying it.
Thats where you are wrong in my case One. I never take any "newbie" seriously, until they can validate themselves. Anyone can scour the net for photos.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 02:22:49 PM
Marine obviously came here to get kids to follow his delusional ways.

Total gimmick

20 ppl are getting gurued by this floppy ass

Marine stop selling ur crap here

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:23:14 PM
WTF DOES GIMMICK MEAN IDIOT............
Post the sign pic. You don't have to show your face. 4.4% bodyfat with a sign.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 02:23:34 PM
SILENCE

ROTFLMFAO....gimmick in time out...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:24:43 PM
ROTFLMFAO....gimmick in time out...
did he just get timed out?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 02:25:59 PM
did he just get timed out?

No...I meant the silence comment...I do that to my children
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:33:18 PM
Marine obviously came here to get kids to follow his delusional ways.

Total gimmick

20 ppl are getting gurued by this floppy ass

Marine stop selling ur crap here



i sell nothing AND I WILL NEVER SELL ANYTHING

except knowledge FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEee

i am quite RICH for the standarts of my country

I have 3 gyms, 1 apartment and 3 cars.......

over 20 people work for me...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 24, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
(http://www.digitaltrends.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/sandwich.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:34:18 PM
Excessive pattern seeking is a cognitive disorder.
Hearing footsteps?  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:34:24 PM
Post the sign pic. You don't have to show your face. 4.4% bodyfat with a sign.

u don't expect me to rush and take a picture for some phaggot? right?

it's almost 1 o clock in the mornign here.

delusuonal homo
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:35:37 PM
u don't expect me to rush and take a picture for some phaggot? right?

it's almost 1 o clock in the mornign here.

delusuonal homo
You have 24 hours. Become a Facebigger.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 24, 2013, 02:36:05 PM
i sell nothing AND I WILL NEVER SELL ANYTHING

except knowledge FOR FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEEEEEEee

i am quite RICH for the standarts of my country

I have 3 gyms, 1 apartment and 3 cars.......

over 20 people work for me...

Why brag about it?...small pee pee?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:37:15 PM
(http://s18.postimg.org/jukb3u9m1/milko_linda_training.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
how to do a screenshot on a pc (http://postimage.org/app.php)

here's me working with a clinet
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:37:45 PM
You have 24 hours. Become a Facebigger.

yeah cause i give a fuck
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:38:51 PM
this is me and my team

(http://s22.postimg.org/tlgxoy7ht/423056_346105382076370_629020546_n.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
screenshot app (http://postimage.org/app.php)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:40:39 PM
(http://s18.postimg.org/jukb3u9m1/milko_linda_training.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
how to do a screenshot on a pc (http://postimage.org/app.php)

here's me working with a clinet
Not good enough. You guys are a dime a dozen. Hack someone's photobucket, and slowly release pics over time. Smart people don't buy it.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Seven Copper Coins on April 24, 2013, 02:41:48 PM
Looks like "Jon Harridan" rides again  ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:42:08 PM
here's my progress over the years


(http://s22.postimg.org/sut9gabg1/milko_progress_2row_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image upload no limit (http://postimage.org/)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 02:43:01 PM
Not good enough. You guys are a dime a dozen. Hack someone's photobucket, and slowly release pics over time. Smart people don't buy it.

sure inspeactor

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 24, 2013, 02:45:46 PM
No...I meant the silence comment...I do that to my children
;D  oh lmao, lol :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: arce1988 on April 24, 2013, 02:47:41 PM
  when bulking i in a typical day, I have 18 large eggs, 5000g pork, 1000g butter.


  What are arteries like, if one only consumes butter, cheese, and pork?


Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:48:20 PM
here's my progress over the years


(http://s22.postimg.org/sut9gabg1/milko_progress_2row_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image upload no limit (http://postimage.org/)

You are getting there. Just post a sign, and be accepted as a true Getbigger.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 24, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
here's my progress over the years


(http://s22.postimg.org/sut9gabg1/milko_progress_2row_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image upload no limit (http://postimage.org/)

I got nothing but mad respect for you bro.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 02:54:18 PM
I got nothing but mad respect for you bro.
(http://expresswithgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mrhumphries.gif)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: brucewayne on April 24, 2013, 03:01:56 PM
I got nothing but mad respect for you bro.

(http://donttrysohard.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/shake-head.gif)

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: THE BOUNCER on April 24, 2013, 03:08:48 PM
here's my progress over the years


(http://s22.postimg.org/sut9gabg1/milko_progress_2row_1.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
image upload no limit (http://postimage.org/)

Good progress bro. Some of the pics you have posted though just is not a good look. Natty or not, you look sickly in some of them. Not hating on you because you are definitely shredded but you look like you have dieted your self away to bones and skin in a few of the pics. No women or man envy's or desires that look. Just calling it like I see it bro, no offence.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 24, 2013, 03:24:29 PM
Good progress bro. Some of the pics you have posted though just is not a good look. Natty or not, you look sickly in some of them. Not hating on you because you are definitely shredded but you look like you have dieted your self away to bones and skin in a few of the pics. No women or man envy's or desires that look. Just calling it like I see it bro, no offence.
(http://i.imgur.com/nUFLG.gif)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: cephissus on April 24, 2013, 03:59:40 PM
i am not a genetic freak

when you got on low carb diet YOU CAN EAT TONS OF CALORIES AND NOT GET FAT

u just don't know it cause people are telling you you need carbs fibers and shit

eat only meat eggs and butter for 6 months - 3700 calories and come oat me SHREDDED.

THE TRUTH WILL BE POSTESD SOON ON IRONGANGA.blogspot.com

(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=475326.0;attach=515555;image)

in the forum post you linked me earlier, this was a starting pic. you got heavier throughout the course of the thread by eating 3500-4000 calories a day.  now you're saying you achieved your current condition eating 3700 calories?

???

how did you get from your condition in this pic, to your condition now?

i want to know because i am maybe a little leaner than you in this "before" picture, but never knew how to reach your "after" picture levels.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2013, 04:04:57 PM
WTF DOES GIMMICK MEAN IDIOT............

Look it up, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimmick (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=gimmick).
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: jaejonna on April 24, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
hahahha Marine getting viciously own3d by the getbig broskies
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 24, 2013, 05:03:49 PM
How many fat bears have PMed him offering a well paid "bottom twink position"? ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tommywishbone on April 24, 2013, 05:51:55 PM
What's up with the 13 year, year-by-year photo sessions? Weird man, real weird.  I think you look best in May 2002 when you are pinned on smack.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 24, 2013, 06:59:55 PM
 when bulking i in a typical day, I have 18 large eggs, 5000g pork, 1000g butter.


  What are arteries like, if one only consumes butter, cheese, and pork?





They should be fine. Beef and butter do not clog arteries.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:08:06 PM

They should be fine. Beef and butter do not clog arteries.

this
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 24, 2013, 10:09:32 PM
this

You are quite the fucking moron. Can't even detect sarcasm.

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 24, 2013, 10:15:11 PM
You are quite the fucking moron. Can't even detect sarcasm.



I noticed this too.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 24, 2013, 10:18:45 PM

They should be fine. Beef and butter do not clog arteries.

Yes as long as you add a jar of peanut butter a day into the diet, the peanut butter will help wash the clogged arteries...I believe it was Mike Mattarazzo who used peanut butter to clean up his arteries.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 24, 2013, 10:27:53 PM
Yes as long as you add a jar of peanut butter a day into the diet, the peanut butter will help wash the clogged arteries...I believe it was Mike Mattarazzo who used peanut butter to clean up his arteries.

no problem with arteries when on low carb

CHOLESTEROL IS ESSENTIAL

THE MORE THE BETTER

you are really ignorant on this subject

my pupils
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 24, 2013, 11:33:42 PM
Actually I was serious. Saturated fats have nothing to do with heart disease.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 12:12:12 AM
Actually I was serious. Saturated fats have nothing to do with heart disease.

actually i was agree

but it may be read like i don't but  i do
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 25, 2013, 02:44:57 AM
Marine I think you are being very dishonest with your diet here.

Obviously a squirt of semen here or there won't affect the macros too much, but the amount of cock you suck, it should at least be included in the total calories
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 03:24:36 AM
Marine I think you are being very dishonest with your diet here.

Obviously a squirt of semen here or there won't affect the macros too much, but the amount of cock you suck, it should at least be included in the total calories

more amd more people PM me for diet advice....so funny

i've already helped many people get to 8% BF no problem....MANY MANY MANY

HATE ASM ÜCH AS YOU WÄNT

on this board there was only 1 natty that could challenge me...........and I HAVE CHIT GENETICS

wonder how most of you would loook natty............
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Psychopath on April 25, 2013, 03:35:52 AM
I'll fuck this anorexic piece shit in the ass till his prostate bursts. Fucking bitch made PHAGGOT.

THE BEEF
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 03:51:07 AM
THE BEEF

eat shit and ho fuck ur mother not me
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 25, 2013, 05:44:25 AM
the marine has had zero pms i checked with ron
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 25, 2013, 05:53:41 AM
the marine has had zero pms i checked with ron

Are you suggesting that the only pm marine has had is 'penile muscle' in his ass bigmc?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 05:55:07 AM
the marine has had zero pms i checked with ron

no you didn't

and u know it
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 05:57:43 AM
I WILL FINISH WHAT Gh15 started


i willlll

i willl

i will revela all those liars......

i
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 05:58:14 AM
Are you suggesting that the only pm marine has had is 'penile muscle' in his ass bigmc?

that;s what ur daddy did to you don't he?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 25, 2013, 06:05:42 AM
Are you suggesting that the only pm marine has had is 'penile muscle' in his ass bigmc?

what im saying cyp is that the marine thought pm meant panty munchers or prick milker

and that if you swap marine for ugadan "special" forces

the name would be more befitting the nature of the poster
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 25, 2013, 06:13:50 AM
what im saying cyp is that the marine thought pm meant panty munchers or prick milker

and that if you swap marine for ugadan "special" forces

the name would be more befitting the nature of the poster

Yes bigmc his favourite hymn is 'all things black and semenful'
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 06:28:57 AM
omg seek mental helps morons
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 25, 2013, 06:36:49 AM
Yes bigmc his favourite hymn is 'all things black and semenful'

i heard is was "abide by cock"
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: C-BuZz on April 25, 2013, 06:45:57 AM
I WILL FINISH WHAT Gh15 started


i willlll

i willl

i will revela all those liars......

i

(http://s21.postimg.org/xcqs8hvuf/613.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 25, 2013, 07:06:52 AM
(http://s21.postimg.org/xcqs8hvuf/613.jpg)

ROTF.....EPIC MELTDOWN....

Marine tried to type while pillow biting.....but the ass pounding made him st st stt sttttuuuuter stutter...LMFAO 
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 07:20:43 AM
THE APPOCALYPSES IS COMING FELLLAS
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 25, 2013, 07:24:02 AM
is this Martine idiot on meth?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 25, 2013, 08:25:57 AM
is this Martine idiot on meth?

Are you saying that a typical 'refeed' day for martina involves IV amphetamines, 2 rice krispies, and his twice his normal dose of antipsychotics Sev?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bigmc on April 25, 2013, 08:32:36 AM
Are you saying that a typical 'refeed' day for martina involves IV amphetamines, 2 rice krispies, and his twice his normal dose of antipsychotics Sev?

haha after today he will have to take anticypchotics
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 09:07:38 AM
I AM BRONGING THE HALO APPOCALYPSES FELLAS


GH15 I WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK REVENGE
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2013, 09:14:56 AM
I AM BRONGING THE HALO APPOCALYPSES FELLAS


GH15 I WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK REVENGE
Is BRONGING a word? I am calling dr. chimps for verification.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: njflex on April 25, 2013, 09:23:55 AM
this thread sux's after gimmick outing,,,
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 25, 2013, 09:42:27 AM
no problem with arteries when on low carb

CHOLESTEROL IS ESSENTIAL

THE MORE THE BETTER

you are really ignorant on this subject

my pupils



THE POSSIBLE GAME CHANGER FOR HEART ATTACKS AND STROKES

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/04/25/gut-bugs-are-implicated-in-heart-attacks-and-stroke/
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 25, 2013, 09:44:40 AM
Actually I was serious. Saturated fats have nothing to do with heart disease.

Google TMAO gut bugs...Many say its a game changer for heart attacks and strokes. People may think twice about eating meat, dairy and egg yolks ;)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2013, 09:50:56 AM
Google TMAO...This study may be a game changer for heart attacks and strokes. ;)

Not going to read it. At this point I would call it an old wives tale. Cholesterol causes plaque saturated fats clogging arteries blah blah. High sugar diets cause inflammation of the endothelial lining of the arteries which in turn cause heart disease. Most doctors who are up on the info will agree. Even the Dr's at Cleveland Clinic will tell you this and they are on of the top heart clinics in the world.

For the past 30 years I have followed and mostly lower carb sugar diet with the occasional binges. When I dieted for my first show I was kind of following the Vince Gironda contest diet principles which happen to be low to zero carb. I ate like this almost always for years. Turns out this just happened to be the way people should be eating to maintain good health. About 5 years ago I had an EBT scan to check the calcium levels in my arteries. I'll be honest that I was a little nervous because of all the hoopla about cholesterol and red meat consumption which through out the years I had plenty of. Anyway, I got my test results back the same day and I scored a zero meaning I had zero plaque build up in all arteries. I have done literally hundreds of hours of research on the subject and for me I have decided to stick with the way I have always eaten.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: njflex on April 25, 2013, 10:09:09 AM
Not going to read it. At this point I would call it an old wives tale. Cholesterol causes plaque saturated fats clogging arteries blah blah. High sugar diets cause inflammation of the endothelial lining of the arteries which in turn cause heart disease. Most doctors who are up on the info will agree. Even the Dr's at Cleveland Clinic will tell you this and they are on of the top heart clinics in the world.

For the past 30 years I have followed and mostly lower carb sugar diet with the occasional binges. When I dieted for my first show I was kind of following the Vince Gironda contest diet principles which happen to be low to zero carb. I ate like this almost always for years. Turns out this just happened to be the way people should be eating to maintain good health. About 5 years ago I had an EBT scan to check the calcium levels in my arteries. I'll be honest that I was a little nervous because of all the hoopla about cholesterol and red meat consumption which through out the years I had plenty of. Anyway, I got my test results back the same day and I scored a zero meaning I had zero plaque build up in all arteries. I have done literally hundreds of hours of research on the subject and for me I have decided to stick with the way I have always eaten.
GOOD TO KNOW/READ,,AND JIM SOME GENETIC PREDIPOSITION GOOD OR BAD HAS TO FACTOR NO?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 25, 2013, 10:16:03 AM
GOOD TO KNOW/READ,,AND JIM SOME GENETIC PREDIPOSITION GOOD OR BAD HAS TO FACTOR NO?

Remember, genetics loads the gun, diet pulls the trigger.  ;)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OneMoreRep on April 25, 2013, 10:17:14 AM
Remember, genetics loads the gun, diet pulls the trigger.  ;)

I like that  ;)

"1"
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BikiniSlut on April 25, 2013, 10:39:16 AM
Not going to read it. At this point I would call it an old wives tale. Cholesterol causes plaque saturated fats clogging arteries blah blah. High sugar diets cause inflammation of the endothelial lining of the arteries which in turn cause heart disease. Most doctors who are up on the info will agree. Even the Dr's at Cleveland Clinic will tell you this and they are on of the top heart clinics in the world.

For the past 30 years I have followed and mostly lower carb sugar diet with the occasional binges. When I dieted for my first show I was kind of following the Vince Gironda contest diet principles which happen to be low to zero carb. I ate like this almost always for years. Turns out this just happened to be the way people should be eating to maintain good health. About 5 years ago I had an EBT scan to check the calcium levels in my arteries. I'll be honest that I was a little nervous because of all the hoopla about cholesterol and red meat consumption which through out the years I had plenty of. Anyway, I got my test results back the same day and I scored a zero meaning I had zero plaque build up in all arteries. I have done literally hundreds of hours of research on the subject and for me I have decided to stick with the way I have always eaten.

This is interesting......over the last little while I've been doing some research on refined sugars and I really believe they are key to a lot more health problems than I ever knew. I've cut them out almost completely.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 10:39:38 AM
Not going to read it. At this point I would call it an old wives tale. Cholesterol causes plaque saturated fats clogging arteries blah blah. High sugar diets cause inflammation of the endothelial lining of the arteries which in turn cause heart disease. Most doctors who are up on the info will agree. Even the Dr's at Cleveland Clinic will tell you this and they are on of the top heart clinics in the world.

For the past 30 years I have followed and mostly lower carb sugar diet with the occasional binges. When I dieted for my first show I was kind of following the Vince Gironda contest diet principles which happen to be low to zero carb. I ate like this almost always for years. Turns out this just happened to be the way people should be eating to maintain good health. About 5 years ago I had an EBT scan to check the calcium levels in my arteries. I'll be honest that I was a little nervous because of all the hoopla about cholesterol and red meat consumption which through out the years I had plenty of. Anyway, I got my test results back the same day and I scored a zero meaning I had zero plaque build up in all arteries. I have done literally hundreds of hours of research on the subject and for me I have decided to stick with the way I have always eaten.

QUALITY POST

APPLAUSE

AGREE 10)%

TRUTH

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 11:00:06 AM
I checked my log

in the first pictures I posted I am 3% BF...


3% BF.


I repeat 3% BF.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Mr Nobody on April 25, 2013, 11:06:29 AM
I checked my log

in the first pictures I posted I am 3% BF...


3% BF.


I repeat 3% BF.
Why to look like shit? Do you even lift or just starve yourself. I hope this helps.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TrueGrit on April 25, 2013, 11:10:13 AM
Remember, genetics loads the gun, diet pulls the trigger.  ;)


Like it..
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tommywishbone on April 25, 2013, 12:41:07 PM
I checked my log

in the first pictures I posted I am 3% BF...


3% BF.


I repeat 3% BF.

Whatever you say Goober.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: SweetMuscles on April 25, 2013, 12:45:27 PM
old photo 5-6 years ago

about 72 kgs - 160 pounds

(http://s7.postimg.org/wp2svd5aj/old_photo.jpg) (http://postimage.org/)
google image hosting (http://postimage.org/)




Nasty. Looks like your arms could snap at any minute. I do like the fact that your back makes an excellent face. The mouth even has lips. When you see it..you'll shit bricks..

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 01:01:18 PM
3% BFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

at 167 LBS 6;

who has done it ?

seriously who?

I AM THE KING OF CONDITIONNING


seriously get to 3% BF fellas and come back at me...........come back at me......................

wjhen u weight 130 lbs......... 6'

come back at me

u piece of fatsos
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 01:02:29 PM
Nasty. Looks like your arms could snap at any minute. I do like the fact that your back makes an excellent face. The mouth even has lips. When you see it..you'll shit bricks..



LOWER BACK TREE guy

RIPPED TO SHRED MOFO

where is ur pic at 3% BF.....oh wait

u are 250 35% BF thinking u are 10%

eat shit
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: SweetMuscles on April 25, 2013, 01:03:19 PM
I emailed that Trainer in the pics and he said his pics are public but he isn't posting on here at all.  ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 01:04:44 PM
I emailed that Trainer in the pics and he said his pics are public but he isn't posting on here at all.  ::)

sure u did

u moron

like the guy who said i have no pm hahaha

keep dremaing fellas
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: SweetMuscles on April 25, 2013, 01:07:34 PM
sure u did

u moron

like the guy who said i have no pm hahaha

keep dremaing fellas

I'm being serious. He has even looked at this shitty thread and said he isn't going to get involved as he doesn't believe anyone would believe it's really him. He has clients and does not think he is anything. You are a sad troll. I genuinely pity you; this has been the highlight of your life for many years.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 01:10:35 PM
I'm being serious. He has even looked at this shitty thread and said he isn't going to get involved as he doesn't believe anyone would believe it's really him. He has clients and does not think he is anything. You are a sad troll. I genuinely pity you; this has been the highlight of your life for many years.

sure sure sure

we all know

why would I lie? why? what i gain?

money? fame? what exactly???????????

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 25, 2013, 01:36:10 PM
We gave the retard what he wanted. Over 400 replies? Shit, I need to make some gimmicks.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 01:44:19 PM
We gave the retard what he wanted. Over 400 replies? Shit, I need to make some gimmicks.

u gave me what?

do u actually think I am happy?

seriously?

my hard work has been mocked

400 replies?

why would i give a fuck

like i said WHAT DO I GAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 25, 2013, 01:46:37 PM
u gave me what?

do u actually think I am happy?

seriously?

my hard work has been mocked

400 replies?

why would i give a fuck

like i said WHAT DO I GAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????
You write like Maddy asswipe.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 25, 2013, 01:55:57 PM
http://spiderstamina.com/about.php
http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=14286

So gullible. Next time ask for a pic holding a sign w/ Getbig and a date on it. ::) :-*
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 25, 2013, 02:00:49 PM
Not going to read it. At this point I would call it an old wives tale. Cholesterol causes plaque saturated fats clogging arteries blah blah. High sugar diets cause inflammation of the endothelial lining of the arteries which in turn cause heart disease. Most doctors who are up on the info will agree. Even the Dr's at Cleveland Clinic will tell you this and they are on of the top heart clinics in the world.

For the past 30 years I have followed and mostly lower carb sugar diet with the occasional binges. When I dieted for my first show I was kind of following the Vince Gironda contest diet principles which happen to be low to zero carb. I ate like this almost always for years. Turns out this just happened to be the way people should be eating to maintain good health. About 5 years ago I had an EBT scan to check the calcium levels in my arteries. I'll be honest that I was a little nervous because of all the hoopla about cholesterol and red meat consumption which through out the years I had plenty of. Anyway, I got my test results back the same day and I scored a zero meaning I had zero plaque build up in all arteries. I have done literally hundreds of hours of research on the subject and for me I have decided to stick with the way I have always eaten.



Why would a new study be a old wives tale? There's no way you had your TMAO(trimethylamine-N-oxide) levels in your blood tested.


 
Gut Bacteria Implicated In Heart Attacks, Stroke
 
By Sharon Begley

NEW YORK, April 24 (Reuters) - Thousands of heart attack victims every year have none of the notorious risk factors before their crisis - not high cholesterol, not unhealthy triglycerides. Now the search for the mystery culprits has turned up some surprising suspects: the trillions of bacteria and other microbes living in the human gut.

In a study released on Wednesday, scientists discovered that some of the bugs turn lecithin - a nutrient in egg yolks, liver, beef, pork and wheat germ - into an artery-clogging compound called TMAO. They also found that blood levels of TMAO predict heart attack, stroke or death, and do so "independent of other risk factors," said Dr Stanley Hazen, chairman of cellular and molecular medicine at the Cleveland Clinic's Lerner Research Institute, who led the study.

That suggests a TMAO test could enter the arsenal of blood tests that signal possible cardiovascular problems ahead. "TMAO might identify people who are at risk (for heart attacks and strokes) despite having no other risk factors," Hazen said.

The discovery also suggests a new approach to preventing these cardiovascular events: altering gut bacteria so they churn out less TMAO.

The study joins a growing list of findings that link human "microbiota" - microbes in the gut, nose and genital tract, and on the skin - to health and disease. Research has shown that certain species of gut bacteria protect against asthma, for instance, while others affect the risk of obesity. Last week scientists reported that circumcision alters bacteria in the penis, and that this change (not only the anatomical one) helps protect men from HIV/AIDS, probably by reducing the number of bacteria that live in oxygen-free environments such as under the foreskin.

"It's very strong work," Dr Martin Blaser of New York University Langone Medical Center, a pioneer in studies of the microbiota, said of the TMAO study. "They show clearly that human microbiota play a key role in producing TMAO, suggesting new approaches to prevention and treatment" of cardiovascular disease.


NORMAL CHOLESTEROL, FATAL HEART ATTACK

The new study builds on a 2011 discovery by the Cleveland Clinic team that, in lab mice, gut bacteria turn lecithin in food into TMAO, or trimethylamine-N-oxide, causing heart disease. In addition, they found, people with high levels of TMAO are more likely to have heart disease.

But that research left two questions hanging: Do human gut bacteria trigger the lecithin-to-TMAO alchemy, like those in mice? And do high levels of TMAO predict heart attacks and stroke in people many years out, not simply mark the presence of cardiovascular disease at the time of the blood test?

To answer the first question, Hazen and his colleagues had 40 healthy adults eat two hard-boiled eggs, which contain lots of lecithin. Just as in lab mice, TMAO levels in the blood rose. After a week of broad-spectrum antibiotics, however, the volunteers' TMAO levels barely budged after they ate eggs, the researchers reported in the New England Journal of Medicine.

"That showed that the intestinal bacteria (which antibiotics kill) are essential for forming TMAO," said Hazen.

Next, to see whether TMAO predicts cardiovascular events, the researchers measured its levels in 4,007 heart patients. After accounting for such risk factors as age and a past heart attack, they found that high levels of TMAO were predictive of heart attack, stroke and death over the three years that the patients were followed.

Moreover, TMAO predicted risk more accurately than triglyceride or cholesterol levels, Hazen said. And it did so in people without substantial coronary artery disease or dangerous lipid levels as well as in sicker patients.

Specifically, people in the top 25 percent of TMAO levels had 2.5 times the risk of a heart attack or stroke compared to people in the bottom quartile.

The reason TMAO is so potent is that it makes blood cholesterol build up on artery walls, causing atherosclerosis (hardening of the arteries) and, if the buildup ruptures and blocks an artery, stroke or heart attack.

Earlier this month, the Cleveland Clinic researchers reported that gut bugs also transform carnitine, a nutrient found in red meat and dairy products, into TMAO, at least in meat eaters. Vegetarians made much less TMAO even when eating carnitine as part of the study, suggesting that avoiding meat reduces the gut bacteria that turn carnitine into TMAO, while regular helpings of dead animals encourages their growth and thus the production of TMAO.

More studies are needed to show whether TMAO reliably predicts cardiovascular crises, and does so better than other blood tests. Experts disagree on how many people have no other risk factors but would be flagged by TMAO. Dr Gordon Tomaselli, chief of cardiology at Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine and past president of the American Heart Association, guesses it is less than 10 percent or so of the people who eventually have heart crises.

Someone with high levels of TMAO could reduce her cardiovascular risk by eating fewer egg yolks and less beef and pork. But someone with a two-eggs-a-day habit but low TMAO probably has gut microbes that aren't very adept at converting lecithin to TMAO, meaning she can eat eggs and the like without risking a coronary.

Just as statins control unhealthy cholesterol, prebiotics (compounds that nurture "healthy" gut microbes) or probiotics (the good bugs themselves) might control unhealthy TMAO. For now, however, no one knows which prebiotics or probiotics might do that. In one study, probiotics actually increased TMAO-producing bacteria - "not what you want," Hazen said.

Neither will popping antibiotics work: bacteria become resistant to the drugs. Developing compounds that crimp the ability of the bacteria to turn lecithin into TMAO, Hazen said, is more likely to succeed. (Reporting by Sharon Begley; editing by Michelle Gershberg and Prudence Crowther)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 25, 2013, 02:15:32 PM
http://spiderstamina.com/about.php
http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=14286

So gullible. Next time ask for a pic holding a sign w/ Getbig and a date on it. ::) :-*

lol...pwned
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 25, 2013, 02:18:03 PM
http://spiderstamina.com/about.php
http://www.jpfitness.com/showthread.php?t=14286

So gullible. Next time ask for a pic holding a sign w/ Getbig and a date on it. ::) :-*
No shit. Most people should smell a gimmick a mile away. Post a sign pic (perfect example is Go4it) and gain immediate credibility.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 02:18:56 PM
lol...pwned

what does that provE?
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 25, 2013, 02:21:03 PM
Post a sign pic, you emaciated guy!

ok I will on the week end
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: tommywishbone on April 25, 2013, 02:21:07 PM
what does that provE?

sign
make sign
take pic with sign
or return to prison camp and continue starvation
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 25, 2013, 02:25:01 PM
sign
make sign
take pic with sign
or return to prison camp and continue starvation
Tommy, gimmicks don't have a home here anymore.  :D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 25, 2013, 02:30:55 PM
ok I will on the week end
Beginning of the end for this gimmick. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 25, 2013, 03:08:54 PM
more amd more people PM me for diet advice....so funny

i've already helped many people get to 8% BF no problem....MANY MANY MANY

HATE ASM ÜCH AS YOU WÄNT

on this board there was only 1 natty that could challenge me...........and I HAVE CHIT GENETICS

wonder how most of you would loook natty............
Kid, you have a student waiting right here yo. Definitely looking looking to go from 7% to 3%. That would look ILL dawg, especially since I'm already a handsome bastard. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 25, 2013, 06:39:29 PM
Actually I was serious. Saturated fats have nothing to do with heart disease.

To be honest about this, the dietician jury is still out on this.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about being in ketosis for extended periods of time. I seems to me whenever someone denies their body of total nutrition by eliminating one aspect or another, this only works for so long. After awhile a person either gets sick or falls off the diet, and when they do, their bodies respond with a vengeance. Yoyo dieting often has disastrous outcomes, like obesity or if one goes too far anorexia.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 25, 2013, 06:41:22 PM
Kid, you have a student waiting right here yo. Definitely looking looking to go from 7% to 3%. That would look ILL dawg, especially since I'm already a handsome bastard. ;D

Does it ever occur to you to have a body fat ratio which is something near healthy? 3% probably means you died awhile back and your body was only recently unearthed.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Idol on April 25, 2013, 08:10:21 PM
Does it ever occur to you to have a body fat ratio which is something near healthy? 3% probably means you died awhile back and your body was only recently unearthed.
Fuck healthy! Die young and leave a pretty corpse baby!
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 25, 2013, 09:24:10 PM
Fuck healthy! Die young and leave a pretty corpse baby!

Good suggestion. There are too many fucking people on this planet anyway.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: The Abdominal Snoman on April 25, 2013, 10:06:14 PM
To be honest about this, the dietician jury is still out on this.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about being in ketosis for extended periods of time. I seems to me whenever someone denies their body of total nutrition by eliminating one aspect or another, this only works for so long. After awhile a person either gets sick or falls off the diet, and when they do, their bodies respond with a vengeance. Yoyo dieting often has disastrous outcomes, like obesity or if one goes too far anorexia.

Many heart doctors are vegan or vegetarian. All 4 of my dads heart docs were vegan...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 25, 2013, 11:09:01 PM
Many heart doctors are vegan or vegetarian. All 4 of my dads heart docs were vegan...

You will get no argument from me when it comes to being a vegan or a vegetarian. When I spoke of dietary restrictions, I was not speaking about his. I suggest that the are many ways in which to enjoy a complete and well rounded diet. There are many sources for protein, the food of bodybuilders. It is even possible for one to do this being a vegan, which by today's standards is probably the most restricted way of eating. Keep in mind that being a vegetarian or a vegan is not a diet to lose weight plan, but just another approach to having a well rounded diet.

Where folks get into trouble is when they eliminate one or more aspects of nutrition. We need fats, carbohydrates, protein and fiber in our diets. This can be achieved via veganism, vegetarianism and carnivorism.

I am not an expert on diet, but the less adulterated/processed the food we consume is the healthier it is. Unfortunately, much of the food readily available for purchase in today's market place has been altered. This is true for vegetables, meats and a variety of other foods. The closer it is to picking a carrot out of the ground in you own garden, the better it is for you.
 
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 26, 2013, 03:39:50 AM
low carb high fat = the way people were supposed to eat
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Cleanest Natural on April 26, 2013, 04:58:52 AM
Why do you argue with this gimmick? The guy is an obvious troll.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: njflex on April 26, 2013, 05:03:17 AM
Why do you argue with this gimmick? The guy is an obvious troll.
true,,,its done...
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: TrueGrit on April 26, 2013, 05:40:10 AM
Will I Increase My Testosterone If I Drink My Own Sperm?

i am planning on mastrubating everyday and saving sperm in the refrigorator

and drink it

will it work like a steroid cycle?


18 pages..  ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 26, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
There are quite a few experts on semen drinking here on GetBig, he came to the right place. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 26, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
i am still shredded
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 26, 2013, 11:40:08 PM
Shred to pieces on Getbig, maybe. ::)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 27, 2013, 12:16:07 AM
To be honest about this, the dietician jury is still out on this.

Frankly, I'd be more concerned about being in ketosis for extended periods of time. I seems to me whenever someone denies their body of total nutrition by eliminating one aspect or another, this only works for so long. After awhile a person either gets sick or falls off the diet, and when they do, their bodies respond with a vengeance. Yoyo dieting often has disastrous outcomes, like obesity or if one goes too far anorexia.

No the jury is not out and contrary to popular belief one will not stay in a permanent state of ketosis on a zero carb diet.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 12:50:59 AM
No the jury is not out and contrary to popular belief one will not stay in a permanent state of ketosis on a zero carb diet.

Give this a read before adopting a diet which produces the state of ketosis; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Disgusted on April 27, 2013, 06:34:36 AM
Give this a read before adopting a diet which produces the state of ketosis; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis)

Read my previous post Ive been eating low carb for 30 years and like I said even if you ate zero carb you will not stay in ketosis.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: f450 on April 27, 2013, 11:32:54 AM
i am still shredded

nope. You are an attention seeking, lying piece of shit.

have a nice day  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Primemuscle on April 27, 2013, 11:52:40 AM
Read my previous post Ive been eating low carb for 30 years and like I said even if you ate zero carb you will not stay in ketosis.

Thanks for sharing your personal opinion.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 27, 2013, 03:25:26 PM
Thanks for sharing your personal opinion.
Primemuscle, don't be so naive, I have noticed you always bringing up studies and reports, it is embarrassing at your age to fall for such shit, let me tell you what studies do, you basically come up with anything you want to see.

Take muscletech ads for example, these are ''studies'' AND 'research" that show from a scientific point of view and from a research and biological point of few that nutrient can be flushed into the muscle at 500% accelerated paste, hence resulting into more muscle/

HELLO EARTH TO PRIME MUSCLE, THIS IS THE REAL WORLD, FFS I can show you studies that prove steroids does not build muscle, yes with doctors and yes with scientist, don't bring that shit here, save the embarrassment, this is the real world. The only thing that counts is experience and results which disgusting HAS TONS, can't even believe you are opposing someone in his position.

PS  DON'T BE SO GULLIBLE MCFLY  ;)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: King Shizzo on April 27, 2013, 03:29:38 PM
Primemuscle, don't be so naive, I have noticed you always bringing up studies and reports, it is embarrassing at your age to fall for such shit, let me tell you what studies do, you basically come up with anything you want to see.

Take muscletech ads for example, these are ''studies'' AND 'research" that show from a scientific point of view and from a research and biological point of few that nutrient can be flushed into the muscle at 500% accelerated paste, hence resulting into more muscle/

HELLO EARTH TO PRIME MUSCLE, THIS IS THE REAL WORLD, FFS I can show you studies that prove steroids does not build muscle, yes with doctors and yes with scientist, don't bring that shit here, save the embarrassment, this is the real world. The only thing that counts is experience and results which disgusting HAS TONS, can't even believe you are opposing someone in his position.

PS  DON'T BE SO GULLIBLE MCFLY  ;)
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/omg/ohmg.gif)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: OTHstrong on April 27, 2013, 03:32:20 PM
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/omg/ohmg.gif)
rotfl  loloollool ;D ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: old-school-lifter on April 28, 2013, 10:39:41 PM
sad thing is this guy is not lifetime natty

no way, no  how

Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 29, 2013, 03:49:34 AM
sad thing is this guy is not lifetime natty

no way, no  how




you are wrong moron - look at the 10-12 year progress pic are u phucking retarted?

what's natty to you?

your grandmother?


the level of shredeness is achieved with low carb diet and ecto genetics

no drugs no supplements
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 03:52:43 AM

you are wrong moron - look at the 10-12 year progress pic are u phucking retarted?

what's natty to you?

your grandmother?


the level of shredeness is achieved with low carb diet and ecto genetics

no drugs no supplements

Your love for the penis isn't natural
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Marine on April 29, 2013, 04:56:01 AM
Your love for the penis isn't natural

yeah man you totally destroyed me man I LOVE GETTING FUCKE IN THE ASS

i am ultra homo

even hte homos call me homo

I ULTRA HOMo and I LOVE DICK

U"ARE SO RIGHT

|IWANT TOI GET FUCKE HARD BY KAI GREENE IN MY TINY LITTLE GLUTEUS MAXIMUS
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 05:00:29 AM
I LOVE GETTING FUCKE IN THE ASS

i am ultra homo

even hte homos call me homo

I ULTRA HOMo and I LOVE DICK

U"ARE SO RIGHT

|IWANT TOI GET FUCKE HARD BY KAI GREENE IN MY TINY LITTLE GLUTEUS MAXIMUS


Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 29, 2013, 05:28:04 AM
BigCyp can make a gimmick go from smug to meltdown in a single gay suggestion. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 05:30:57 AM
BigCyp can make a gimmick go from smug to meltdown in a single gay suggestion. ;D

Shall we test your theory, cockbreath?  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: bodyofsteel on April 29, 2013, 05:31:39 AM
Shall we test your theory, cockbreath?  ;D
Nonsense, I had a breath mint just this morning. ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 06:18:21 AM
Nonsense, I had a breath mint just this morning. ;D

Hahaha that's what I call a good sport  ;D
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Army of One on April 29, 2013, 06:19:26 AM
(http://thecagedoctors.com/wp-content/gallery/fighter-shows-off-his-chest/hutton1.jpg)
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: BigCyp on April 29, 2013, 06:26:05 AM
That's even more embarassing than having no muscles.
Title: Re: I am shredded now - natty
Post by: Tedim on April 29, 2013, 06:54:23 AM
(http://thecagedoctors.com/wp-content/gallery/fighter-shows-off-his-chest/hutton1.jpg)

Nice bitch tities.... :o