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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
;D Ha! I can sooo relate. That's EXACTLY how I felt after following a vegan diet for 3 weeks back in 1991.
After the 3 weekks, I couldn't wait to rush out and eat a quarter pounder with cheese. I did, and regretted it!
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
Nocebo effect and nothing else. Purely psychological.
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...or maybe he just has taste buds.
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
McDonald's food always makes me feel less energetic and a little sad / just not right.
Something is wrong with that crap.
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McDonald's food always makes me feel less energetic and a little sad / just not right.
Something is wrong with that crap.
this its horrific
sits in your stomach like a dead weight
anyone who recommends eating macdonalds has a screw loose
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I also eat pretty clean, never have fast food really (couple times a year)?
Had McD's on FRI (11:30 AM) that was it for the whole day, sat with me, felt like lead, couldn't eat anything else all day.
Felt like hell.
Stuff is loaded with poison and chemicals. (But doesnt it taste great) :D
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Stuff is loaded with poison and chemicals. (But doesnt it taste great) :D
No - it tastes like shit.
You gotta be kidding that it tastes good, right? Fkin awful food.
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Even the smell when you walk into Mcdonalds is sickening
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this its horrific
sits in your stomach like a dead weight
anyone who recommends eating macdonalds has a screw loose
only burger kings beats it.
after eating mcdonalds it feels like pebbles in stomach, after burger king it feels like a huge stone.
pure poison but tastes very good.
Even the smell when you walk into Mcdonalds is sickening
yes, the fattos, the skinny girls with the 5inch thick and wide fatto belt on the waist-lower back.
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Haven't eaten at Mickey D's in over 10 years, but from what I remember it's fucking great when you're eating it, but you always feel sick afterwards. Absolute garbage.
When I binge, I eat junk cereal. My record for clean eating was 6 months. I made a big mistake and went food shopping when I was hungry. I bought the largest box of Lucky Charms they had... I came home and ate the entire box with a quart of whole milk... it was better than sex. Over the next 2 days I had massive pumps during my workouts.
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That shit (literally) just sits in your stomach and pulls water from all over the place, leaving you bloated in the middle and flat everywhere else. Until you take at least 8-9 shits to flush it from your body. I can't stand that crap.
When I want to hit some junk food with higher than norm carbs and fats, I just go down to the Vietnamese place here and order a XL bowl of pho soup with sirlion, eye round, and beef balls.
Similar to this :
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McDonald's is fine cuisine compared to Taco Bell.
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That shit (literally) just sits in your stomach and pulls water from all over the place, leaving you bloated in the middle and flat everywhere else. Until you take at least 8-9 shits to flush it from your body. I can't stand that crap.
When I want to hit some junk food with higher than norm carbs and fats, I just go down to the Vietnamese place here and order a XL bowl of pho soup with sirlion, eye round, and beef balls.
Similar to this :
I love Pho!
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If you ate a real burger you wouldn't feel like shit.
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You can eat better burgers almost everywhere.
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You can eat better burgers almost everywhere.
you can make really tasty home made burgers
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you can make really tasty home made burgers
Now I'm hungry, 'thanks' >:( ;D
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I remember eating that shit after 12 weeks dieting and threw up straight afterwards.
I dont touch the stuff anymore.
LIke everyone says something about it just doesnt sit right with the human body
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Nocebo effect and nothing else. Purely psychological.
Bullshit, when you eat something like McDonalds you have a 24 hr diarrhea advisory.
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AHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! "fast food hamburgers are like poison!!"
I know most of you proud and staunch bb dieters haven't ingested such henious sustanence in your ripped guts since the Ford administration, but let's toughen up a bit there ladyboys.....not like y'all pulled the pin and swallowed a live grenade......it's a hamburger....let's nut up a touch. ;D
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Shockwave treating Getbig like Facebook. :-\
Nice shit thread brah.
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Shockwave treating Getbig like Facebook. :-\
Nice shit thread brah.
But you treat Getbig as Twitter.
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But you treat Getbig as Twitter.
Never. My threads always bring either entertainment or information.
I will put my thread making skills against anyone on getbig.
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Years ago,I was doing a contest in Orlando Fl.,..........after 3-4 months of totally strict dieting,all I craved was a fucking BK Whopper.
As soon as I got a break after pre-judging I hit BK hard......got the Whopper,and it tasted like complete shit.
I had been eating so clean,that I could literally differentitate between the tons of grease,and shitloads of sodium that the burger contained.
I ate that motherf/ucker though,but it did taste terrible,nothing like I imagined it would for months.
No clue why I wanted Burger King,but weirdly enough I did.
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If I am going to eat a burger its Bobbys Burger.
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Nocebo effect and nothing else. Purely psychological.
dont think so. I was so excited to have it, having not eaten any mcds in months. .... and about 3/4s of the way through I started feeling queasy, and I stopped a few bites later. For the next hour I felt like I was going to vomit, and it felt like a lead brick in my stomach.
dont have that issue when I make homemade burgers or go to a restaurant.
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You guys are preaching to the choir. I lost 60+ pounds by having a cheat day once a week.
I waited all week for my cheat day. Then I had wings, pizza, cake, etc....
Did I feel like shit? probably. Did I shit constantly? Yes.
I lost 60+ pounds as a natural, by having a cheat day every week.
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You guys are preaching to the choir. I lost 60+ pounds by having a cheat day once a week.
I waited all week for my cheat day. Then I had wings, pizza, cake, etc....
Did I feel like shit? probably. Did I shit constantly? Yes.
I lost 60+ pounds as a natural, by having a cheat day every week.
A cheat day means that you're sabotaging your diet almost 15% of the time.
Personally I believe this is way too much, it's like giving yourself a top bankers bonus.
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Nocebo effect and nothing else. Purely psychological.
You are an idiot.
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You guys are preaching to the choir. I lost 60+ pounds by having a cheat day once a week.
I waited all week for my cheat day. Then I had wings, pizza, cake, etc....
Did I feel like shit? probably. Did I shit constantly? Yes.
I lost 60+ pounds as a natural, by having a cheat day every week.
Were you an alcoholic when you were fat?
Reason I ask is I havent met any fat alcys.
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Any body had Culver's burgers before. My new favorite chest meal. 2 bacon triples with cheese + a side of Fries. 8)
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Any body had Culver's burgers before. My new favorite chest meal. 2 bacon triples with cheese + a side of Fries. 8)
Sounds like a big dump is on your horizon.
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Sounds like a big dump is on your horizon.
Sounds like you know the male colon like the back of your hand ;D
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My new favorite chest meal.
Do you have any other specific diets for single body-parts?
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Sounds like you know the male colon like the back of your hand ;D
are you hitting on me, stud?
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Were you an alcoholic when you were fat?
Reason I ask is I havent met any fat alcys.
You want to hang out? Fixing to be blind drunk by 21:00, and fatter than Cswol.
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A cheat day means that you're sabotaging your diet almost 15% of the time.
Personally I believe this is way too much, it's like giving yourself a top bankers bonus.
Unless you are drugged to the max a cheat day is a bullshit term used by weak minds. Once I get into a fat burning mode the last thing I want is a cheat day. If people need the cheat day then they are doing something wrong with their diet.
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McDonald's fries are fucking delicious.
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McDonald's fries are fucking delicious.
were, they suck now. They tasted great when they basted them with beef fat until the vegetarians bitched about it. Same as their nuggets. They were the bomb before they changed them to all white meat.
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When I was living in San Diego me and my training partner would always go out to eat after we trained.
As he crammed the last fork full of cherry pie down his throat he'd say: "Nothing wrong with a little cheat day" Then I'd say: "Dude, you have a cheat life"
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were, they suck now. They tasted great when they basted them with beef fat until the vegetarians bitched about it. Same as their nuggets. They were the bomb before they changed them to all white meat.
There's a place down in Manhattan Beach called "Tom Boys" or something like that... I dunno... Best fries I've EVER had.
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McDonald's fries are fucking delicious.
Checkers are better.
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Unless you are drugged to the max a cheat day is a bullshit term used by weak minds. Once I get into a fat burning mode the last thing I want is a cheat day. If people need the cheat day then they are doing something wrong with their diet.
But you're fat
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LOL@nearly everyone in this thread. I could only imagine the tasteless bricks the lot of you "cook" in your George Foreman "grill".
There is not a single food I have ever eaten, chicken breast or burger that has made me feel "awful".
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LOL@nearly everyone in this thread. I could only imagine the tasteless bricks the lot of you "cook" in your George Foreman "grill".
There is not a single food I have ever eaten, chicken breast or burger that has made me feel "awful".
It's the "Bodybuilding" and "Fitness" mentality.
These are some warped human beings... Afraid to enjoy FOOD.
There are people all over the world that WISH they had something like a McDonald's burger to eat.
These people are neurotic.
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It's the "Bodybuilding" and "Fitness" mentality.
These are some warped human beings... Afraid to enjoy FOOD.
There are people all over the world that WISH they had something like a McDonald's burger to eat.
These people are neurotic.
I love a good Burger.
this is our go-to spot for Burgers. not "McDonalds" ::) :D....LOLOLOL
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LOL@nearly everyone in this thread. I could only imagine the tasteless bricks the lot of you "cook" in your George Foreman "grill".
There is not a single food I have ever eaten, chicken breast or burger that has made me feel "awful".
Thing is, I eat burgers about once every other week... take the family and go out, what have you... ive tried eating mcdonalds twice (tried again today, mcdouble, forgot my lunch) and both times made me feel horrible.
ill never eat another McDonalds burger again.
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I love a good Burger.
this is our go-to spot for Burgers. not "McDonalds" ::) :D....LOLOLOL
I certainly don't think McDonald's is the best burger, but I really think it speaks volumes to how people perceive "food".
Only in this country to we think food is "bad".
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HAMBURGERS ARE POISON!!!!!
LOL.....nerds. ;D
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I certainly don't think McDonald's is the best burger, but I really think it speaks volumes to how people perceive "food".
Only in this country to we think food is "bad".
To be serious for a moment.
I think food is bad when it's low quality garbage meat that is mostly fat and preservatives. it's like eating a hot dog. just crap.
I'd rather spend 7.50 for a juicy sirloin burger that is hand made and cooked to order...for as often as I'll eat a burger and fries.
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To be serious for a moment.
I think food is bad when it's low quality garbage meat that is mostly fat and preservatives. it's like eating a hot dog. just crap.
I'd rather spend 7.50 for a juicy sirloin burger that is hand made and cooked to order...for as often as I'll eat a burger and fries.
x10
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Unless you are drugged to the max a cheat day is a bullshit term used by weak minds. Once I get into a fat burning mode the last thing I want is a cheat day. If people need the cheat day then they are doing something wrong with their diet.
This!
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To be serious for a moment.
I think food is bad when it's low quality garbage meat that is mostly fat and preservatives. it's like eating a hot dog. just crap.
I'd rather spend 7.50 for a juicy sirloin burger that is hand made and cooked to order...for as often as I'll eat a burger and fries.
There are no preservatives in Mcdonalds beef and it has a fat ratio of 20 percent to 80 lean. The actual quality is also high.
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There are no preservatives in Mcdonalds beef and it has a fat ratio of 20 percent to 80 lean. The actual quality is also high.
have a party brother.
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I wouldn't eat that just because it's a low quality, salty lump of gristle.
nothing wrong with a burger from somewhere good, if it fits your macros. I'd rather get chicken strips as there's more protein and less fat and they tast fckin awesome from carls jnr.
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There are no preservatives in Mcdonalds beef and it has a fat ratio of 20 percent to 80 lean. The actual quality is also high.
Sarcasm I hope
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Should of gone to in and out burger
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Sarcasm I hope
Nope.
Its a myth that there are any preservatives in Mcdonalds beef.
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The quality control of McDonalds' food is very high as is the accuracy of its nutritional content. McDonalds can't afford to get it wrong. It's a complete crap shoot at your local burger place.
This is 100 percent accurate.
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Nope.
Its a myth that there are any preservatives in Mcdonalds beef.
how about the cheese and the bun..which account for half of the calories ;)
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Like Wes said, when u eat clean for a while and then eat fast food, it taste like shit. Countless times I was craving a big mac, finally had one and it taste like salt, grease, and a sponge (bun). Can't believe how I used to love that shit years ago. And TA it's not just the patty, the sauces they use and gobs of mayo
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http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/see_what_we_are_made_of/your_questions_answered/meats.html
What is the binding ingredient used in making the beef patties?
We don’t use any binding ingredients. Our burger patties are made from 100% pure beef, with no binders or fillers.
Do you add fat to cook your burger patties?
Our burger patties are just 100% pure beef. Nothing is added – no binders or fillers. The restaurants use a double-sided grill called a “clamshell” to grill the patties, and no extra fat is added.
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how about the cheese and the bun..which account for half of the calories ;)
Same kind of Cheese and Bread you buy in the store. The "7.50" burger bun and cheese that you love so much, are the same ingredients.
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Like Wes said, when u eat clean for a while and then eat fast food, it taste like shit. Countless times I was craving a big mac, finally had one and it taste like salt, grease, and a sponge (bun). Can't believe how I used to love that shit years ago. And TA it's not just the patty, the sauces they use and gobs of mayo
Their burgers DO NOT come with Mayo unless you ask for it. Hope this helps. Also, there is NO MAYO on a Big Mac or quarter pounder. Hope this helps x2.
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http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/see_what_we_are_made_of/your_questions_answered/meats.html
What is the binding ingredient used in making the beef patties?
We don’t use any binding ingredients. Our burger patties are made from 100% pure beef, with no binders or fillers.
Do you add fat to cook your burger patties?
Our burger patties are just 100% pure beef. Nothing is added – no binders or fillers. The restaurants use a double-sided grill called a “clamshell” to grill the patties, and no extra fat is added.
They opened a company called "100% beef" prob how they can legally say that ;D
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Same kind of Cheese and Bread you buy in the store. The "7.50" burger bun and cheese that you love so much, are the same ingredients.
maybe the kind you buy..not me.
and not even close...do some research that you are famous for ;)
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how about the cheese and the bun..which account for half of the calories ;)
Come on Groink, you are smart enough to know that your favorite "local burger" place does not have the facilities to make their own cheese. They have a truck that comes in that brings them American Cheese and others by bulk. The same with their bread.
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Their burgers DO NOT come with Mayo unless you ask for it. Hope this helps. Also, there is NO MAYO on a Big Mac or quarter pounder. Hope this helps x2.
well, I dont know what it is in their burgers that make me feel like shit, but there is something... and it appears im not alone in that.
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maybe the kind you buy..not me.
and not even close...do some research that you are famous for ;)
BULLSHIT!
If you go to any Deli counter of any Supermarket or if you go to just strictly a Deli that sells Meat and Cheese, the ingredients for American Cheese will be virtually the same.
Do you need me to post how American Cheese is made? I will if you want me to.
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ta should watch super size me
it will change his life
they have handmade burger company over here now
real quality
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Their burgers DO NOT come with Mayo unless you ask for it. Hope this helps. Also, there is NO MAYO on a Big Mac or quarter pounder. Hope this helps x2.
Why are u trying to be smart. U know damn well that I said sauces and a big mac has sauce. So if groink is wasting 7.50 and should just eat mcd since it's the same, why do u bother making a buger at home over eating mcd? Ur always telling us how the quality of ur food is fabulous, isn't it the same?
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well, I dont know what it is in their burgers that make me feel like shit, but there is something... and it appears im not alone in that.
Its just your brain at work. Nothing else. Feel free to lab test their meat. Its not like they are hiding anything.
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ta should watch super size me
it will change his life
they have handmade burger company over here now
real quality
I have seen it and beaten it to death with my logical hammer as to why its pure shit. Please do a search.
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McDonalds only recently started using "meat" that didn't contain "pink slime"
http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-is-changing-its-burger-recipe-to-take-the-pink-slime-out-of-its-meat-2012-1
The quality is still horrendous and they still have a ton of sodium so if you're eating clean or even a normal diet (i.e you prepare you own food) and then you eat almost ANY fast food you will notice the overwhelming amount of sodium
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/nutritionfacts.pdf
A friend talked me into eating at BK about 4 years ago and I took one bite and spit it out. All I could taste was the salt
As has been mentioned on this thread there are many places (local and national chains) that use higher quality ingredients than BK, McD, and of course you can make great burgers at home where you can control the quality of all ingredients
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For most people bashing McDonalds is some kind of political statement. If it wasn't you just wouldn't eat it and move on. The McDonalds haters would rather patronize their local place that's barely staying in business and cutting every corner when it comes to what it puts in its food just to make a profit.
how is it a political statement when people from left right and center all say it's shit
some people just have low standards for the food they put in their body (and also their palate might be altered by a constant diet of shitty food)
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
;D this guy swears by macdonalds and he's a doctor.
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Why are u trying to be smart. U know damn well that I said sauces and a big mac has sauce. So if groink is wasting 7.50 and should just eat mcd since it's the same, why do u bother making a buger at home over eating mcd? Ur always telling us how the quality of ur food is fabulous, isn't it the same?
Hope this helps.
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http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/see_what_we_are_made_of/your_questions_answered/meats.html
What is the binding ingredient used in making the beef patties?
We don’t use any binding ingredients. Our burger patties are made from 100% pure beef, with no binders or fillers.
Do you add fat to cook your burger patties?
Our burger patties are just 100% pure beef. Nothing is added – no binders or fillers. The restaurants use a double-sided grill called a “clamshell” to grill the patties, and no extra fat is added.
It's all semantics - they can argue that it's "100% pure beef" all they want but what they don't tell you is what part of the fucking cow it comes from - they're putting entrails and that kind of shit together, mashing it up and legally they can still call it "100% pure beef".
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I have seen it and beaten it to death with my logical hammer as to why its pure shit. Please do a search.
facts are the facts brother
anyway why would a chef like you
ever need to go to macdonalds
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BULLSHIT!
If you go to any Deli counter of any Supermarket or if you go to just strictly a Deli that sells Meat and Cheese, the ingredients for American Cheese will be virtually the same.
Do you need me to post how American Cheese is made? I will if you want me to.
No just post the ingredients of a Mcdonalds bun and McDonald's cheese..ketchup too.
Then tell me about preservatives....LOL.
I have no illusions that a cheeseburger of any kind is "healthy".I worry about saturated fats..high fructose..etc....that's why going and eating a Big Ass Cheeseburger isnt an every day thing in my household. But when I do its not fkng McDonald's.
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It's all semantics - they can argue that it's "100% pure beef" all they want but what they don't tell you is what part of the fucking cow it comes from - they're putting entrails and that kind of shit together, mashing it up and legally they can still call it "100% pure beef".
This.
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It's all semantics - they can argue that it's "100% pure beef" all they want but what they don't tell you is what part of the fucking cow it comes from - they're putting entrails and that kind of shit together, mashing it up and legally they can still call it "100% pure beef".
No they aren`t. They ONLY use Chuck, which is from the shoulder. Hope this helps. You are misinformed.
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Who says it's shit? Some eccentric posters on an internet bodybuilding forum? (Super Size Me has been discredited in so many places it's not even worth discussing.) Do you have any idea how much food McDonalds sells on an international basis? It's one of the most wildly successful companies in the history of the world. That didn't happen by accident.
lots of people have very low standards for the food they put in their body
and selling a shit ton of product doesn't make it any less shitty
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No just post the ingredients of a Mcdonalds bun and McDonald's cheese..ketchup too.
Then tell me about preservatives....LOL.
I have no illusions that a cheeseburger of any kind is "healthy".I worry about saturated fats..high fructose..etc....that's why going and eating a Big Ass Cheeseburger isnt an every day thing in my household. But when I do its not fkng McDonald's.
Ketchup?
Mcdonalds uses Hunt`s Ketchup brand.
Hope this helps Groink. Do you know where you can purchase Hunt`s? ( I prefer Heinz and Burger King uses Heinz)
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This.
You have no clue what you are talking about Groink. They only use Chuck, which is from the shoulder. Each patty is inspected and MCDONALDS ONLY BUYS Chuck, nothing else.
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No they aren`t. They ONLY use Chuck, which is from the shoulder. Hope this helps. You are misinformed.
that video has been proven fake
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I STILL FIND IT FUNNY MCDONALD'S IS THE BIGGEST SPONSOR FOR THE OLYMPIC GAMES.'NOT SOME SUPP COMPANY,BEVERAGE CO,OR HEALTH ORIENTATED,JUST MCDONALDS,,,LARGE FRY WILL HELP U LUGE TO A WORLD RECORD.
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Ketchup?
Mcdonalds uses Hunt`s Ketchup brand.
Hope this helps Groink. Do you know where you can purchase Hunt`s? ( I prefer Heinz and Burger King uses Heinz)
Thats twice you've deflected.
Post the ingredients please
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OH MY GOD!!!! Run its Ketchup! Heinz KETHCUP!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oWLEm0XT4CE/S-DBiVd-CJI/AAAAAAAABgg/bulI9Bxlu4E/s1600/IMG_4981.JPG)
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OH MY GOD!!!! Run its Ketchup! Heinz KETHCUP!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oWLEm0XT4CE/S-DBiVd-CJI/AAAAAAAABgg/bulI9Bxlu4E/s1600/IMG_4981.JPG)
doesnt that say burger king
you have lost your touch bro
groink is schooling you
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What about mcdonalds chicken wraps?
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Thats twice you've deflected.
Post the ingredients please
http://nutrition.mcdonalds.com/getnutrition/ingredientslist.pdf
Ketchup
Ingredients: Tomato Concentrate from Red Ripe Tomatoes, Distilled Vinegar, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Syrup, Water, Salt, Natural Flavors (Plant Source).
(http://thelabelguy.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/sdc10698.jpg)
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OH MY GOD!!!! Run its Ketchup! Heinz KETHCUP!
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oWLEm0XT4CE/S-DBiVd-CJI/AAAAAAAABgg/bulI9Bxlu4E/s1600/IMG_4981.JPG)
It wasn't until a month ago that mcdonalds stopped using heinz at all of it's locations. They still had it in Pen. where Heinz is headquartered. What's your take on not putting ketchup on burgers? I have to have it but I was watching this thing about best burgers and one of the originals in New Haven called Louis Lunch fodbids ketchup and only allows mustard. Fuck that. I need my heinz.
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facts are the facts brother
anyway why would a chef like you
ever need to go to macdonalds
The greatest chefs in the world have high praise for Mcdonalds. I have posted this many, many times. Do a search.
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Groink has joined forces with the death star. It is painfully obvious now.
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Groink has joined forces with the death star. It is painfully obvious now.
Groink is being a moron.
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What's your point? Ketchup has a shit load of sodium in it. Like anything else, if u have too much it's not good for u but in moderation it's okay. It's kind of like tren.
I believe I said BUN and CHEESE too ..you know..those things loaded with preservatives and high fructose corn syrup .
Wow...unrelated attacks over a cheeseburger..someone really hates being wrong.....LOLOLOL. :D
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For most people bashing McDonalds is some kind of political statement. If it wasn't you just wouldn't eat it and move on. The McDonalds haters would rather patronize their local place that's barely staying in business and cutting every corner when it comes to what it puts in its food just to make a profit.
McDonalds is popular for one main reason. They're cheap and fast. They used to have legendary fries until they changed their formula. Recent expansion of places like Smash Burger, In and out, 5 guys is proving that people are willing to pay a dollar more for something better. look at McDonalds slogan "I'M LOVIN' IT". It is marketed towards the unintelligent. Their commercials focus on children, blacks and ethnics.
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It wasn't until a month ago that mcdonalds stopped using heinz at all of it's locations. They still had it in Pen. where Heinz is headquartered. What's your take on not putting ketchup on burgers? I have to have it but I was watching this thing about best burgers and one of the originals in New Haven called Louis Lunch fodbids ketchup and only allows mustard. Fuck that. I need my heinz.
I am loyal to Heinz and Heinz only. I have tried every Ketchup I can find and there is no better ketchup. I LOVE it on burgers and will ALWAYS put it on. Louis Lunch does have its place in history, but truth be told, its not that special. Not only is it a meme that they have followed for years regarding no ketchup, its part psychological. Restaurants and places are built on reputation and ambiance etc.. Its a good gimmick to say, our burgers are the original and do not need any ketchup and sure, people will believe it and may like it because they are told to do so.
I say put whatever you like on the burger. I put extra salt and ketchup on all my burgers, regardless of where they come from.
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I am loyal to Heinz and Heinz only. I have tried every Ketchup I can find and there is no better ketchup. I LOVE it on burgers and will ALWAYS put it on. Louis Lunch does have its place in history, but truth be told, its not that special. Not only is it a meme that they have followed for years regarding no ketchup, its part psychological. Restaurants and places are built on reputation and ambiance etc.. Its a good gimmick to say, our burgers are the original and do not need any ketchup and sure, people will believe it and may like it because they are told to do so.
I say put whatever you like on the burger. I put extra salt and ketchup on all my burgers, regardless of where they come from.
Reminds me of an old man I saw at 5 guys a month back. He poured 3 salt packets on his burger patty before eating it.
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I believe I said BUN and CHEESE too ..you know..those things loaded with preservatives and high fructose corn syrup .
Wow...unrelated attacks over a cheeseburger..someone really hates being wrong.....LOLOLOL. :D
Groink, the Cheese ingredients and the Bun ingredients will be the same as what you can buy in any Grocery store. I will post it if I have to (if you are still too stupid to believe it). I figured you would have realized you were dead wrong by now.
Do you want me to post the ingredients or not? I have them pulled up right now.
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Reminds me of an old man I saw at 5 guys a month back. He poured 3 salt packets on his burger patty before eating it.
Five Guys really needs extra salt in my opinion. Its quite bland.
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Maybe it'll put grape soda and watermelon on the menu since the overpriced wings apparently didn't go over too well w/ the coloreds.
Mexicans in SoCal love it for many reasons. 1 because its cheap and 2 because it employees thousands of them.
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Groink, the Cheese ingredients and the Bun ingredients will be the same as what you can buy in any Grocery store. I will post it if I have to (if you are still too stupid to believe it). I figured you would have realized you were dead wrong by now.
Do you want me to post the ingredients or not? I have them pulled up right now.
Yes please post them and then tell me again about no preservatives in McDonald's
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Yes please post them and then tell me again about no preservatives in McDonald's
McDonalds uses plain old American Cheese which has lots of preservatives. Most fast food places, even high end use buns with lots of preservatives. They aren't buying fresh baked daily. even Carls Jr who now bake theirs daily still have shit packed in them to keep it soft and pliable, same as subway.
It's cheap for a reason.
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Yes please post them and then tell me again about no preservatives in McDonald's
There is no preservatives in their Beef.
Do you know what cheese is? Its essentially aged, preserved milk. How do you make cheese without a preservative? Science would like to know. ???
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If I want I burger,unless it`s an extreme emergency and I`m starving to death and on the road,I`ll just cook up my own at home........best shit on Earth.
I usually just have it on a plate with mustard,and/or tomato slices on the side or with a baked potato.
Far better than any fast food shit.
Sure McDonalds is huge worldwide as someone mentioned,but most of their fucking patrons are pretty fucking HUGE hefty sum bitches also!!
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Haven't had McDonalds in years.
Few months back we returned from a late flight and were pretty hungry. Only food we could get nearby was McD's. So ate a couple of burgers...
Damn felt like shit for the whole ride back home. Felt very "strange". Don't know why. :-X
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Haven't had McDonalds in years.
Few months back we returned from a late flight and were pretty hungry. Only food we could get nearby was McD's. So ate a couple of burgers...
Damn felt like shit for the whole ride back home. Felt very "strange". Don't know why. :-X
It's the rush of sodium in your bloodstream.
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McDonalds uses plain old American Cheese which has lots of preservatives. Most fast food places, even high end use buns with lots of preservatives. They aren't buying fresh baked daily. even Carls Jr who now bake theirs daily still have shit packed in them to keep it soft and pliable, same as subway.
It's cheap for a reason.
Cheese is preserved milk. Goats cheese to Parmesean. Hope this helps.
Furthermore, the buns are higher quality than your regular supermarket hamburger buns. They aren`t any cheaper at all.
I doubt Groink has ever baked a loaf of bread in his life, or you for that matter, so you will be forced to eat bread with a preservative in it- which is not a bad thing at all.
I bake my own bread so I know the difference. I have even baked my own Hamburger buns. In my opinion its not worth it and I prefer store bought, preferably Martin`s Potato Rolls which is what the Famous Freshly Made Burger Daily- Shake Shack uses.
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Could very well be, BP spike because of the high sodium.
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Yes please post them and then tell me again about no preservatives in McDonald's
Groink,
How do you make cheese without some sort of preservative? ???
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It's the rush of sodium in your bloodstream.
......and the rat haired laden,cockroach infested, grease flooding your once pristine system,and causing nausea and distress. ;)
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......and the rat haired laden,cockroach infested, grease flooding your once pristine system,and causing nausea and distress. ;)
Total bullshit. :)
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Groink,
How do you make cheese without some sort of preservative? ???
Isn`t cheese naturally aged?
Never knew it had to contain preservatives,unless of course it`s processed cheese which is what MACDONALDs sells.
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Total bullshit. :)
Yes,I was kidding. :D
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......and the rat haired laden,cockroach infested, grease flooding your once pristine system,and causing nausea and distress. ;)
Hahahahahaha, true as fuck. Aside from the health aspect, this "food" also tastes like utter crap in my opinion.
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Isn`t cheese naturally aged?
Never knew it had to contain preservatives,unless of course it`s processed cheese which is what MACDONALDs sells.
Cheese does not have to be aged, but it HAS to have a preservative in it of some sort.
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Hahahahahaha, true as fuck. Aside from the health aspect, this food also tastes like utter crap.
You never know what`s been crawling around on that grill at night! :(
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Cheese does not have to be aged, but it HAS to have a preservative in it of some sort.
This I did not know.
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This I did not know.
Even in Roman Times they were adding salt and seaweed as preservatives to cheeses.
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Even in Roman Times they were adding salt and seaweed as preservatives to cheeses.
Cool,again,I had no clue.
Who says you can`t learn new stuff on getbig? ;)
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LOL@ Groink talking about Preservatives but he injects Steroids only meant for cattle, not meant for human consumption, in his bloodstream
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You can`t make this stuff up.
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You never know what`s been crawling around on that grill at night! :(
Haha reminds me. My cousin used to go fishing a lot. As bait he used maggots, which he would grow himself.
So he always had a container with rotten meat and maggots in his fridge. He would often "try" a few of them to see if they where good.
His girlfriend had the biggest meltdowns haha.
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Haha reminds me. My cousin used to go fishing a lot. As bait he used maggots, which he would grow himself.
So he always had a container with rotten meat and maggots in his fridge. He would sometimes "try" a few of them to see if they where good.
His girlfriend had the biggest meltdowns haha.
Good,high,and complete protein content bro! LOL :D
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How come the ones who use steroids aren`t concerned with the Preservatives or content of the steroids they use? ???
Do you guys even know whats in them? The FDA would probably NEVER approve the shit you guys use for safety reasons, especially when its meant only for farm animals.
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:D
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LOL@ Groink talking about Preservatives but he injects Steroids only meant for cattle, not meant for human consumption, in his bloodstream
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You can`t make this stuff up.
Someone really likes........MCDONALD'S.
you cant make this stuff up
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Nocebo effect and nothing else. Purely psychological.
Haha, sure it is. lol
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Guys I can relate. I experienced the same things when I was dieting/eating clean.
Your stomach shrinks. It also quickly adapts to the daily food regime.
I would always find myself feeling bloated and using the toilet numerous times on my cheat days.
I laugh at the people who shout "preservatives!!!!".
90% of our food is processed in some fashion. So unless you go back to hunting and gathering, you are eating processed food.
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Someone really likes........MCDONALD'S.
you cant make this stuff up
I actually prefer a lot of other places to Mcdonalds and rarely go there. What I do hate is the ignorance that surrounds it.
Its completely fine to be ignorant when you don`t have the facts or you don`t know something, but, when you are in possession of the facts or have seen then or been exposed to them and then remain ignorant, that is insanity.
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I recommend the premium snack wraps at McDonalds ...Sweet Chili to be exact ..I eat 4 of them every Tuesday. ..wouldn't touch s burger from there..
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how is it a political statement when people from left right and center all say it's shit
some people just have low standards for the food they put in their body (and also their palate might be altered by a constant diet of shitty food)
By your rationale, since the majority of people believe in some sort of invisible man in the sky, therefore it must be true right? I mean how could billions of people get it so wrong?
Moron.
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I recommend the premium snack wraps at McDonalds ...Sweet Chili to be exact ..I eat 4 of them every Tuesday. ..wouldn't touch s burger from there..
Nothing wrong with the burger if you are scared of it. Nothing to be afraid of.
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Cheese is preserved milk. Goats cheese to Parmesean. Hope this helps.
Furthermore, the buns are higher quality than your regular supermarket hamburger buns. They aren`t any cheaper at all.
I doubt Groink has ever baked a loaf of bread in his life, or you for that matter, so you will be forced to eat bread with a preservative in it- which is not a bad thing at all.
I bake my own bread so I know the difference. I have even baked my own Hamburger buns. In my opinion its not worth it and I prefer store bought, preferably Martin`s Potato Rolls which is what the Famous Freshly Made Burger Daily- Shake Shack uses.
Why are you such a dunce and assume that you're the only fucker on getbig that has ever boiled water?
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I recommend the premium snack wraps at McDonalds ...Sweet Chili to be exact ..I eat 4 of them every Tuesday. ..wouldn't touch s burger from there..
To go along with the 5,000 calorie breakfast?
You are a tiny dude. How the hell do you eat so much?
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Nothing wrong with the burger if you are scared of it. Nothing to be afraid of.
Not scared..it just doesn't taste like beef to me..has a fake taste to it..plus they are tiny...
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To go along with the 5,000 calorie breakfast?
You are a tiny dude. How the hell do you eat so much?
nah ..its a post workout meal I have on Tuesday. .theres a McDonalds right by the gym
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Why are you such a dunce and assume that you're the only fucker on getbig that has ever boiled water?
This....there are tons of breads and cheeses that are naturally aged and have no chemical preservatives .
But I have no interest in going around in circles with Adonis. McDonald's is garbage.. I dont eat it...I dont give a shit if its made with 24kt gold.
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Today i Learned That Preservatives are good for you
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This....there are tons of breads and cheeses that are naturally aged and have no chemical preservatives .
But I have no interest in going around in circles with Adonis. McDonald's is garbage.. I dont eat it...I dont give a shit if its made with 24kt gold.
Your favorite "local burger place" uses Cheese and Buns with preservatives, yet you gobble it up with pride and pretend that they are cave aging their cheese in the walk in freezer and and mixing, baking and fermenting a burger bun just for little old special you. ::) Its hilarious actually.
So tell me, what American Cheese (which is considered standard fare on American Hamburgers) is made without preservatives? Are you some sort of wizard or something that has come up with a new recipe?
Also, how many loaves of bread have you ever baked? Have you ever made your own burger buns? I already know the answer to those questions, so don`t bother replying.
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Why are you such a dunce and assume that you're the only fucker on getbig that has ever boiled water?
Given yours and the others ignorance surrounding food, it would certainly would appear to be the case.
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Adonis owning the shit out of Groink and company in this thread.
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TA annihilating in this thread.
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At this point, I dont really care whats in McDs burgers... I was excited as shit to eat one, and it made me sick as fuck. Gave it another go, same deal.
Not eating their again. And it wasnt mental Adam, no matter how hard you try and dismiss my experience.... not once did I think 'man I hope this junk doesn't make me sick'... I was thinking, 'man this is going to taste great!, ugh, why do I feel like ass......'
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At this point, I dont really care whats in McDs burgers... I was excited as shit to eat one, and it made me sick as fuck. Gave it another go, same deal.
Not eating their again. And it wasnt mental Adam, no matter how hard you try and dismiss my experience.... not once did I think 'man I hope this junk doesn't make me sick'... I was thinking, 'man this is going to taste great!, ugh, why do I feel like ass......'
Perhaps you are gluten intolerant and it's the bun that got you.
I've never had any personal issue with eating any food from anywhere.
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At this point, I dont really care whats in McDs burgers... I was excited as shit to eat one, and it made me sick as fuck. Gave it another go, same deal.
Not eating their again. And it wasnt mental Adam, no matter how hard you try and dismiss my experience.... not once did I think 'man I hope this junk doesn't make me sick'... I was thinking, 'man this is going to taste great!, ugh, why do I feel like ass......'
Why were you excited? Just curious? if they made you so sick and are such shit why did you crave it? The commericals? The signs? Of all the burger places what made you want this? Honestly, if someone asked me to go grab a burger, McDonalds doesn't even enter my mind.
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By your rationale, since the majority of people believe in some sort of invisible man in the sky, therefore it must be true right? I mean how could billions of people get it so wrong?
Moron.
Wrong.....as usual
You are one of the dumbest of the self annointed "experts" on this board
what you wrote doesn't even make any sense (like many of your posts)
just because millions of people like/purchase something doesn't mean it's good i.e. not shit
hence, just because million of people believe something doesn't mean it's true (this is where you attempt to conflate my statement to a belief/support of a "sky god" makes absolutely no sense)
and if people on the left, right and center (and even those who are apolitical) share a similar point of view then how can that point of view also be a political statement?
I shouldn't be surprised that you were so easily confused since you're the guy who simultaneously claims it's a myth that there are not preservatives in McDonalds meat and then later claim that all cheese has a preservative because it has salt
here is what Cholo4life wrote and my response is below
For most people bashing McDonalds is some kind of political statement. If it wasn't you just wouldn't eat it and move on. The McDonalds haters would rather patronize their local place that's barely staying in business and cutting every corner when it comes to what it puts in its food just to make a profit.
how is it a political statement when people from left right and center all say it's shit
some people just have low standards for the food they put in their body (and also their palate might be altered by a constant diet of shitty food)
and a second post for even further context
lots of people have very low standards for the food they put in their body
and selling a shit ton of product doesn't make it any less shitty
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Wrong.....as usual
You are one of the dumbest of the self annointed "experts" on this board
what you wrote doesn't even make any sense (like many of your posts)
just because millions of people like/purchase something doesn't mean it's good i.e. not shit
hence, just because million of people believe something doesn't mean it's true (this is where you attempt to conflate my statement to a belief/support of a "sky god" makes absolutely no sense)
and if people on the left, right and center (and even those who are apolitical) share a similar point of view then how can that point of view also be a political statement?
I shouldn't be surprised that you were so easily confused since you're the guy who simultaneously claims it's a myth that there are not preservatives in McDonalds meat and then later claim that all cheese has a preservative because it has salt
here is what Cholo4life wrote and my response is below
and a second post for even further context
Yes, but just because a subset of people say it's shitty, doesn't make it so either does it?
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Why were you excited? Just curious? if they made you so sick and are such shit why did you crave it? The commericals? The signs? Of all the burger places what made you want this? Honestly, if someone asked me to go grab a burger, McDonalds doesn't even enter my mind.
I uswd to it eat all the time, and loved it. Then I actually stopped eatonf fast food altogether when I started dieting... fast forward several months of making everything at home, pasta, steak, chicken, ehat have you, and I got home super late last night so I decided to grab a doubld QP as I didnt want to cook. I was excited because I used to love them.
about mid way through, ralph city. Apparently when I stopped eatong fast food and my body adjusted to not having it, the shit made me sick as fuck. As an experiment I tried again today, on a smaller scale, same result
something in their burgers makes me very sick. I did have their mcchicken a couple weeks ago and it didnt have this effect. Its the burgers.
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I uswd to it eat all the time, and loved it. Then I actually stopped eatonf fast food altogether when I started dieting... fast forward several months of making everything at home, pasta, steak, chicken, ehat have you, and I got home super late last night so I decided to grab a doubld QP as I didnt want to cook. I was excited because I used to love them.
about mid way through, ralph city. Apparently when I stopped eatong fast food and my body adjusted to not having it, the shit made me sick as fuck. As an experiment I tried again today, on a smaller scale, same result
something in their burgers makes me very sick. I did have their mcchicken a couple weeks ago and it didnt have this effect. Its the burgers.
Very odd.
It is possible it's mental, but I mean, if you don't eat their burgers, it's no big deal I don't think.
With the population rising world wide, there's plenty of people who will eat your patty. (no homo)
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Perhaps you are gluten intolerant and it's the bun that got you.
I've never had any personal issue with eating any food from anywhere.
nope. See above. Had a mcchicken a couple weeks ago. Not the same. Ive only eaten mcds a couple times in at least 3-4 months. After cutting out all fast food and then tryinh a Mcds burger, insta sick. And it wasnt a 1 time thing... tried again today at lunch as an experiment (and because o forgot my lunch)
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Very odd.
It is possible it's mental, but I mean, if you don't eat their burgers, it's no big deal I don't think.
With the population rising world wide, there's plenty of people who will eat your patty. (no homo)
I would agree, if I jad ANY reservations about eating it or if I thought it was shitty. I did not. Not until I got sick, that is.
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Yes, but just because a subset of people say it's shitty, doesn't make it so either does it?
it's shit because it's low quality ingredients, loaded with sodium, etc...
and I'm not just talking about McDonalds
this applies to most national fast food chains but I'm sure there are some exceptions (at least for specific menu items)
For example, you could construct a decent meal at Chipotle and they actually have a decent quality of the food (not the best but it's still a national fast food chain)
http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutrition_calculator.aspx
I tried Chik Fil a when it came to town and had their smallest sandwich and all I could taste was the sodium
I went back to my office and looked up the nutrition info and this little sandwich that I ate in about 4 bites had almost 1400 mg of sodium
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it's shit because it's low quality ingredients, loaded with sodium, etc...
and I'm not just talking about McDonalds
this applies to most national fast food chains but I'm there are some exceptions (at least for specific menu items)
For example, you could construct a decent meal at Chipotle and they actually have a decent quality of the food (not the best but it's still a national fast food chain)
http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutrition_calculator.aspx
I tried Chik Fil a when it came to town and had their smallest sandwich and all I could taste was the sodium
I went back to my office and looked up the nutrition info and this little sandwich that I ate in about 4 bites had almost 1400 mg of sodium
I find nothing shitty about it... It's not "shitty" for any reason you just described.
It's shitty because you SAY those things make it shitty.
You don't know how any food is unless YOU make it... You can go to the nicest restaurant on the planet and they make their food similarly.
YOU just don't say it's shitty because YOU don't know how THEY make their food.
That's all there is to it.
You can say it all day and night, but that doesn't make it true.
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it's shit because it's low quality ingredients, loaded with sodium, etc...
and I'm not just talking about McDonalds
this applies to most national fast food chains but I'm there are some exceptions (at least for specific menu items)
For example, you could construct a decent meal at Chipotle and they actually have a decent quality of the food (not the best but it's still a national fast food chain)
http://www.chipotle.com/en-us/menu/nutrition_calculator/nutrition_calculator.aspx
I tried Chik Fil a when it came to town and had their smallest sandwich and all I could taste was the sodium
I went back to my office and looked up the nutrition info and this little sandwhich that I ate in about 4 bites had almost 1400 mg of sodium
The ingredients are not low quality. Sodium is irrelevant, especially when you drink enough water. Someone could easily order from Chipotle and go over the sodium of what a Double Cheeseburger has. Furthermore, there is no standard measure to Chipotle as its all just eyeballed by whoever is making your burrito.
You are a moron.
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I find nothing shitty about it... It's not "shitty" for any reason you just described.
It's shitty because you SAY those things make it shitty.
You don't know how any food is unless YOU make it... You can go to the nicest restaurant on the planet and they make their food similarly.
YOU just don't say it's shitty because YOU don't know how THEY make their food.
That's all there is to it.
You can say it all day and night, but that doesn't make it true.
for me if it has low quality ingredients and needs to use a ton of sodium then it's shit
also, and just as important it tastes like shit to me
if you like it then that's fine
everyone has different standards.
my neighbor thinks his Kia is an awesome car but I'd rather have my Lexus
I'd rather buy really high quality grass fed beef or bison and make my own burger at home
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for me if it has low quality ingredients and needs to use a ton of sodium then it's shit
also, and just as important it tastes like shit to me
if you like it then that's fine
everyone has different standards.
my neighbor thinks his Kia is an awesome car but I'd rather have my Lexus
I'd rather buy really high quality grass fed beef or bison and make my own burger at home
I'm sure you make all of your burgers yourself ALL of the time.
::)
Even then, you have NO idea that what you are eating is what you THINK you are eating.
You don't know if that beef is actually grass fed or anything of the sort.
You're just believing what someone puts on a label.
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HOLY SHIT, :o
I just made a burrito at Chipotle and this is what the MACROS came to be:
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for me if it has low quality ingredients and needs to use a ton of sodium then it's shit
also, and just as important it tastes like shit to me
if you like it then that's fine
everyone has different standards.
my neighbor thinks his Kia is an awesome car but I'd rather have my Lexus
I'd rather buy really high quality grass fed beef or bison and make my own burger at home
I bet whatever you make at home is shit.
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for me if it has low quality ingredients and needs to use a ton of sodium then it's shit
also, and just as important it tastes like shit to me
if you like it then that's fine
everyone has different standards.
my neighbor thinks his Kia is an awesome car but I'd rather have my Lexus
I'd rather buy really high quality grass fed beef or bison and make my own burger at home
I guess Caviar is low quality since its relatively high in sodium. ::)
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The ingredients are not low quality. Sodium is irrelevant, especially when you drink enough water. Someone could easily order from Chipotle and go over the sodium of what a Double Cheeseburger has. Furthermore, there is no standard measure to Chipotle as its all just eyeballed by whoever is making your burrito.
You are a moron.
sodium is relevant if it's the ONLY thing you can taste and until recently your beloved McDonalds was serving you meat made with pink slime
if that's your definition of a high quality or even "quality" ingredient then obviously we have different standards
Regarding Chipotle (and again, I'm not surprised you need this explained to you), I said you could "construct a decent meal"
I didn't say that you couldn't also construct a not so decent meal yet the reality that the quality of their meat and other ingredients appear to be far superior to McDonalds, et al.
BTW - according to McDonald a double cheeseburger weights 5.4 ounces where as all the meat "servings" at Chipotle are 4 oz each so feel free to show me how you add another 1.4 ounces to complete the "meal" at Chipotle in order to make a valid comparison to your double cheeseburger
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Almost everything is processed. You dont think that steak you eat at a restaurant is processed?
Any of that store bought meat or chicken?
Ohhh I ate at mcdonalds and now my tummy hurts.
Wahhhhhhh :'(
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Might as well throw away Balik Smoked Salmon because its low quality, high sodium at 311 US Dollars for 500 grams.
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Its the preservativesv that shock the body and cause one to feel like hell. If you've been away from preservative s for awhile, your body will react when you ingest them after a break.
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Its the preservativesv that shock the body and cause one to feel like hell. If you've been away from preservative s for awhile, your body will react when you ingest them after a break.
Wrong.
Totally wrong. Your body does not have any special signals to "detect" a preservative. You actually think you know EXACTLY when you are eating Seaweed, which is a common preservative and is all natural?
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I bet whatever you make at home is shit.
I made this last night
grass fed NY Strip Steak on sale at Whole Foods
stop pretending you're the only person who knows how to cook
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I made this last night
grass fed NY Strip Steak on sale at Whole Foods
stop pretending you're the only person who knows how to cook
You sliced it incorrectly and it looks a bit over done.
Hope this helps. Also, NY Strip is okay, but a real steak is a Ribeye, preferably a cowboy steak. Hope this helps.
Learn how to slice your meat correctly. It will make a world of difference in flavor and chew.
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I made this last night
grass fed NY Strip Steak on sale at Whole Foods
stop pretending you're the only person who knows how to cook
Also, you have visible wads of fat on that meat that could have been charred for more taste. Try again.
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I guess Caviar is low quality since its relatively high in sodium. ::)
again you seem to need everything explained to you
sodium, in and of itself is not the issue
salmon roe is one of the foods with the highest amount of Omega 3 and it doesn't have to be high in sodium
Here is the stuff I actually buy and it has 308 mg in a one ounce serving so even 3 ounces (which is enough for a meal) is less than a gram
http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=330&idcategory=283
this is the same place I buy my sardines (by the case when they are in stock)
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Looking at your meat again, you have no visible sear on it, no crust.
You would have been better off at Outback, which has consistent quality and actually uses Prime.
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I made this last night
grass fed NY Strip Steak on sale at Whole Foods
stop pretending you're the only person who knows how to cook
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=516257.0;attach=553627;image)
At least you sous vide. However, you really need to work on your sear. It sucks. And your slicing. You shouldn`t have that much gummy fat after a proper sear.
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Straw Man,
What circulator are you using for Sous Vide?
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You sliced it incorrectly and it looks a bit over done.
Hope this helps. Also, NY Strip is okay, but a real steak is a Ribeye, preferably a cowboy steak. Hope this helps.
Learn how to slice your meat correctly. It will make a world of difference in flavor and chew.
It was cooked in a water bath at 130 degrees and was perfect
I could cut it with a fork
It's cut just fine for my taste and isn't that exactly what we've been debating on this thread
btw - I've NEVER on this board claimed to be some kind of an expert chef of cook.....unlike you
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You sliced it incorrectly and it looks a bit over done.
Hope this helps. Also, NY Strip is okay, but a real steak is a Ribeye, preferably a cowboy steak. Hope this helps.
Learn how to slice your meat correctly. It will make a world of difference in flavor and chew.
You're talking about slicing it perpendicular to the long side, at a 45* angle, correct? Thats how I cut mine.
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Looking at your meat again, you have no visible sear on it, no crust.
You would have been better off at Outback, which has consistent quality and actually uses Prime.
Aren't you the one that promotes sous vide for steaks? Where's the sear from boiling the meat in a bag?
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Aren't you the one that promotes sous vide for steaks? Where's the sear from boiling the meat in a bag?
You sear it once it comes out.
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Adonis once again trolling to perfection. Getting people to explain themselves over and over.....
;D
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Also, you have visible wads of fat on that meat that could have been charred for more taste. Try again.
I actually like the fat uncharred
the recipe called for a quick sear in the beginning and then another sear at the end but just wanted to eat it because I was hungry and it tasted damn good the way it was
It's the first time I've ever done a sous vide and I did it on the stove with an 8 dollar thermometer
could it be better ...sure
was it pretty damn good the way it was...definitely
it was not shit (unlike your arrogant claim when you know nothing about me)
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It was cooked in a water bath at 130 degrees and was perfect
I could cut it with a fork
It's cut just fine for my taste and isn't that exactly what we've been debating on this thread
btw - I've NEVER on this board claimed to be some kind of an expert chef of cook.....unlike you
What kind of circulator do you use?
Also on a side note to everyone: Chipotle Sous Vides all their meat. So you if like Chipotle, you are eating Sous Vide.
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I actually like the fat uncharred
the recipe called for a quick sear in the beginning and then another sear at the end but just wanted to eat it because I was hungry and it tasted damn good the way it was
It's the first time I've ever done a sous vide and I did it on the stove with an 8 dollar thermometer
could it be better ...sure
was it pretty damn good the way it was...definitely
it was not shit (unlike your arrogant claim when you know nothing about me)
Use a Beer Cooler. On the stove is stupid.
Your recipe is retarded if it told you to sear once in the beginning and once in the end. It should be done at the end of cooking in a water bath.
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I actually like the fat uncharred
the recipe called for a quick sear in the beginning and then another sear at the end but just wanted to eat it because I was hungry and it tasted damn good the way it was
It's the first time I've ever done a sous vide and I did it on the stove with an 8 dollar thermometer
could it be better ...sure
was it pretty damn good the way it was...definitely
it was not shit (unlike your arrogant claim when you know nothing about me)
Here, this will help you in the future.
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Straw Man,
What circulator are you using for Sous Vide?
didn't use one
my brother spent the weekend sending me photos of the results using a $400 digital unit
I used this guys method (and note he said don't skip the sear at the end and I skipped it because I was hungry and didn't give a shit and I also didn't make the mushroom ragu). I was just fooling around with the method and wanted to eat some good quality meat
http://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2011/01/stovetop-sous-vide-episode-2-ny-strip.html
I also used this seasoning (after searing) but before vacuum sealing
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysmuralofflavor.html
again, I have NEVER made any claims to be a cook or chef on this board
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didn't use one
my brother spent the weekend sending me photos of the results using a $400 digital unit
I used this guys method (and note he said don't skip the sear at the end and I skipped it because I was hungry and didn't give a shit and I also didn't make the mushroom ragu). I was just fooling around with the method and wanted to eat some good quality meat
http://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2011/01/stovetop-sous-vide-episode-2-ny-strip.html
I also used this seasoning (after searing) but before vacuum sealing
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysmuralofflavor.html
again, I have NEVER made any claims to be a cook or chef on this board
You've gotta be the dumbest person I've ever met to sear before you put it in the water bath.
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Use a Beer Cooler. On the stove is stupid.
Your recipe is retarded if it told you to sear once in the beginning and once in the end. It should be done at the end of cooking in a water bath.
yet I got the idea from an actual former professional chef
so fucking stupid of me
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You've gotta be the dumbest person I've ever met to sear before you put it in the water bath.
watch the video dumbass
I was just "sort of" following this guys method and like I said I didn't even do the 2nd sear because I just wanted to eat
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yet I got the idea from an actual former professional chef
so fucking stupid of me
Its really stupid, coupled with your pre sear= moronic.
See the video I posted. THAT is how you do it.
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didn't use one
my brother spent the weekend sending me photos of the results using a $400 digital unit
I used this guys method (and note he said don't skip the sear at the end and I skipped it because I was hungry and didn't give a shit and I also didn't make the mushroom ragu). I was just fooling around with the method and wanted to eat some good quality meat
I also used this seasoning (after searing) but before vacuum sealing
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysmuralofflavor.html
again, I have NEVER made any claims to be a cook or chef on this board
ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
You skipped the sear. I could tell it was pure shit. What a waste of meat.
You can`t hide it from me.
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watch the video dumbass
I was just "sort of" following this guys method and like I said I didn't even do the 2nd sear because I just wanted to eat
I'm just playing bro I don't care how you cook or slice your meat as long as you enjoy it, that's all that matters :D
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Wrong.
Totally wrong. Your body does not have any special signals to "detect" a preservative. You actually think you know EXACTLY when you are eating Seaweed, which is a common preservative and is all natural?
No.....I'm 100% correct. I don't want too debate right now a I'm on my phone but when I get my commuter hooked b up again I will. I can't post shit from my phone.
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ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Straw Man,
You seasoned it after you "seared" it (which you say you skipped),
You have NO clue what you are doing. That is NOT when you season meat.
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Your favorite "local burger place" uses Cheese and Buns with preservatives, yet you gobble it up with pride and pretend that they are cave aging their cheese in the walk in freezer and and mixing, baking and fermenting a burger bun just for little old special you. ::) Its hilarious actually.
So tell me, what American Cheese (which is considered standard fare on American Hamburgers) is made without preservatives? Are you some sort of wizard or something that has come up with a new recipe?
Also, how many loaves of bread have you ever baked? Have you ever made your own burger buns? I already know the answer to those questions, so don`t bother replying.
I believe I said way back when in this thread that I have no illusions that ANY cheeseburger would be considered healthy. I dont eat them.often.
But when I do...I eat Grade A beef and high quality ingredients..aged cheddar..prtezel loaf bun...raw onion from the swiss Alps ..not the cheapest shit money can buy at.......MCDONALD'S...LOLOLOL.
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That shit (literally) just sits in your stomach and pulls water from all over the place, leaving you bloated in the middle and flat everywhere else. Until you take at least 8-9 shits to flush it from your body. I can't stand that crap.
When I want to hit some junk food with higher than norm carbs and fats, I just go down to the Vietnamese place here and order a XL bowl of pho soup with sirlion, eye round, and beef balls.
Similar to this :
Holy fuck, for a moment I thought you were calling pho shit. I was just about ready to fight you! :o
It's a lot of work making the broth but you can make a garbage can sized pot full of it and freeze it if you've got the space. We don't use none of that cooked meat though, it's gotta be raw and with lots of tendon and tripe. I use tons of hoison sauce and sriracha and tons of limes. Mmm... any time you're sick or hung over this is the best comfort food, hands down.
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Its really stupid, coupled with your pre sear= moronic.
See the video I posted. THAT is how you do it.
since you claim to be such a great cook explain why it's stupid
you don't need a sous vide machine or even circulation (assuming it's only small amount of food)
why are you pretending there is any one way to cook ?
http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
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I believe I said way back when in this thread that I have no illusions that ANY cheeseburger would be considered healthy. I dont eat them.often.
But when I do...I eat Grade A beef and high quality ingredients..aged cheddar..prtezel loaf bun...raw onion from the swiss Alps ..not the cheapest shit money can buy at.......MCDONALD'S...LOLOLOL.
Nothing is wrong with a Cheeseburger and is healthy. All Beef for human consumption is Grade A. Do you know the ingredients of a Pretzel Bun, I do. :D
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ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
You skipped the sear. I could tell it was pure shit. What a waste of meat.
You can`t hide it from me.
yep, and I told you I skipped in spite of the person in the video saying don't skip it
who gives shit
I'm honest (how about you?)
it was the first time I ever tried it
I was hungry and wanted to eat
still tasted fanstastic
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ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
Straw Man,
You seasoned it after you "seared" it (which you say you skipped),
You have NO clue what you are doing. That is NOT when you season meat.
salt and pepper for the pre-sear
and then seasoning BEFORE the vacuum seal
being the expert you are you know that the vacuum seal also serves as a way to marinate the meat and many sous vide recipes call for putting seasoning, aromatics, etc... in before you vacuum seal
how is it you're a self appointed expert and don't know this?
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since you claim to be such a great cook explain why it's stupid
you don't need a sous vide machine or even circulation (assuming it's only small amount of food)
why are you pretending there is any one way to cook ?
http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
You don`t need a machine or anything when you use a Beer Cooler.
You just put the meat in and you are done.
With your stupid stovetop method, it has to be monitored and adjusted. You can`t just walk away. With a Beer Cooler, you just drop it in and you can leave it in there for hours if you want and not have to do anything.
Your shitbrain method, you have to stand there like a fool or run in there every so often and take a temperature. Furthermore, a Beer Cooler retains its heat better using this method of cooking.
Using a pot on a stove is just stupid and retarded and unnecessary and inferior.
Use a Beer Cooler, hope this helps. Much easier, much better results, completely consistent and no equipment involved.
Only then, will you PWN your brother and his expensive Sous Vide machine. Until then, keep failing.
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Nothing is wrong with a Cheeseburger and is healthy. All Beef for human consumption is Grade A. Do you know the ingredients of a Pretzel Bun, I do. :D
So you are really saying that a burger from McDonald's is of the same taste and quality as one from a upper scale restaurant ? There is no accounting for taste I guess.
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salt and pepper for the pre-sear
and then seasoning BEFORE the vacuum seal
being the expert you are you know that the vacuum seal also serves as a way to marinate the meat and many sous vide recipes call for putting seasoning, aromatics, etc... in before you vacuum seal
how is it you're a self appointed expert and don't know this?
You said you seasoned it after you "seared" it. (although you didn`t sear it)
Here is what you wrote: I also used this seasoning (after searing)
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So you are really saying that a burger from McDonald's is of the same taste and quality as one from a upper scale restaurant ? There is no accounting for taste I guess.
It depends on the individual as far as taste goes. Define upscale. Steak and Shake will make a better burger than most "upscale" places because they use Chuck, Short Rib and Brisket blend in their patties, whereas an "upscale" place may only use Chuck.
It really just depends on many factors including the individual.
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The fact that anyone even bothers debating TA anymore in itself is disturbing. Anyone touting McDonalds as the same as any other burgher you might be able to eat... when we all have eaten other burghers that make McDonalds look and taste like a turd...is delusion.
I am going to start calling TA Baghdad Bob. "Even now as we speak the burgher you are eating is no better then McDonalds!! It is all in your minds!!"
::)
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You don`t need a machine or anything when you use a Beer Cooler.
You just put the meat in and you are done.
With your stupid stovetop method, it has to be monitored and adjusted. You can`t just walk away. With a Beer Cooler, you just drop it in and you can leave it in there for hours if you want and not have to do anything.
Your shitbrain method, you have to stand there like a fool or run in there every so often and take a temperature. Furthermore, a Beer Cooler retains its heat better using this method of cooking.
Using a pot on a stove is just stupid and retarded and unnecessary and inferior.
Use a Beer Cooler, hope this helps. Much easier, much better results, completely consistent and no equipment involved.
Only then, will you PWN your brother and his expensive Sous Vide machine. Until then, keep failing.
why do you make so many stupid statement
first it's obviously not "my method"
second, I didn't need to stand there at all
I set the lowest temp on my stove and use two thermometers and the water stayed right around 130 the entire time
I watched the horrible football game and looked at it maybe 2 times during the two and half hours in the water
why the fuck would I use a beer cooler when this method is so fucking simple
third, why do you assume I'm trying to PWN my brother
did I say I was ?
No, I did not
In fact what I said was that I was "fooling around" with the method
I just said he was using his new machine and I thought I would try the method myself without a machine
I assume you've taken the time to educate yourself on the benefits of pre-searing now that I've provided it for you
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The fact that anyone even bothers debating TA anymore in itself is disturbing. Anyone touting McDonalds as the same as any other burgher you might be able to eat... when we all have eaten other burghers that make McDonalds look and taste like a turd...is delusion.
I am going to start calling TA Baghdad Bob. "Even now as we speak the burgher you are eating is no better then McDonalds!! It is all in your minds!!"
::)
Lets clarify a few things:
1. It is up to the individual what he or she likes, Mcdonalds or wherever.
2. Mcdonalds uses no preservatives in their meat.
3. Mcdonalds only uses 100 percent Ground Chuck, from the shoulder.
4. Mcdonalds cooks their burgers to a uniform temperature in a clam shell, so every burger is cooked exactly the same each and every time.
5. Mcdonalds has no fillers in their beef. Only salt and pepper.
6. Mcdonalds uses Hunt`s Ketchup.
7. Mcdonalds`s buns are a higher quality Merita, better than you can buy in most Supermarkets. (with the exception, in my opinion of Martin`s Potato Rolls)
8. Cheese is essentially preserved Milk. ALL AMERICAN Cheese will have preservatives in it. American Cheese is the most popular form of cheese on a Hamburger in the United States.
9. Claiming Mcdonalds is doing anything other than what is listed above is bullshit.
10. Hope this helps.
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You said you seasoned it after you "seared" it. (although you didn`t sear it)
Here is what you wrote: I also used this seasoning (after searing)
I also gave you a link to the "seasoning"
here it is again
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysmuralofflavor.html
some of the ingredients would just burn if I put it on first and seared at high heat
Hand mixed from shallots, onion, garlic, thyme, rosemary, basil, coriander, lemon peel, citric acid, black pepper, chives, green peppercorns, dill weed, and orange peel.
instead I put it after but before vacuum sealing so that the flavors could help in a way to marinate the meat
again, being the self proclaimed expert in all thing cooking you know that people put in aromatics prior to vacuum sealing
not part of the recipe that this guy used but I had it on my counter and just decided to use it
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Lets clarify a few things:
1. It is up to the individual what he or she likes, Mcdonalds or wherever.
2. Mcdonalds uses no preservatives in their meat.
3. Mcdonalds only uses 100 percent Ground Chuck, from the shoulder.
4. Mcdonalds cooks their burgers to a uniform temperature in a clam shell, so every burger is cooked exactly the same each and every time.
5. Mcdonalds has no fillers in their beef. Only salt and pepper.
6. Mcdonalds uses Hunt`s Ketchup.
7. Mcdonalds`s buns are a higher quality Merita, better than you can buy in most Supermarkets. (with the exception, in my opinion of Martin`s Potato Rolls)
8. Cheese is essentially preserved Milk. ALL AMERICAN Cheese will have preservatives in it. American Cheese is the most popular form of cheese on a Hamburger in the United States.
9. Claiming Mcdonalds is doing anything other than what is listed above is bullshit.
10. Hope this helps.
Ok Baghdad Bob.
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funny I ate one last week
felt liek million bucks
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I believe I said way back when in this thread that I have no illusions that ANY cheeseburger would be considered healthy. I dont eat them.often.
But when I do...I eat Grade A beef and high quality ingredients..aged cheddar..prtezel loaf bun...raw onion from the swiss Alps ..not the cheapest shit money can buy at.......MCDONALD'S...LOLOLOL.
Raw onion from the swiss alps. Hahahaha
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why do you make so many stupid statement
first it's obviously not "my method"
second, I didn't need to stand there at all
I set the lowest temp on my stove and use two thermometers and the water stayed right around 130 the entire time
I watched the horrible football game and looked at it maybe 2 times during the two and half hours in the water
why the fuck would I use a beer cooler when this method is so fucking simple
third, why do you assume I'm trying to PWN my brother
did I say I was ?
No, I did not
In fact what I said was that I was "fooling around" with the method
I just said he was using his new machine and I thought I would try the method myself without a machine
I assume you've taken the time to educate yourself on the benefits of pre-searing now that I've provided it for you
Beer Cooler is way easier, more consistent and needs no monitoring and works 100 percent of the time.
Your water temperature fluctuated, you just didn`t realize it since you didn`t monitor it (something you do not have to do with a Beer Cooler). Your meat looks a bit overcooked to me based on your picture. I was dead on the money regarding the fatty, flabby mess you had on your hands to which you admit to.
You do not need two different thermometers with a Beer Cooler. Only one and that is to check the water only ONE time when you get it to proper temperature. After that, you put the meat in and you are done.
There is no benefit of Pre-Searing, especially regarding Sous Vide. That is just retarded.
Keep making it more difficult for yourself and keep failing.
I do not care.
As for your brother, he obviously wanted to brag when he sent you the pictures and then you tried to duplicate it using an alternate method. You took a picture of it too, which I assumed you took to send to your brother. You DID NOT take it for me or to post on this forum. You made it yesterday and took the picture yesterday and then shared it with your brother. You WANTED to Pwn him, but it just didn`t pan out.
Now tell me I am wrong. (I`m not)
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I also gave you a link to the "seasoning"
here it is again
http://www.penzeys.com/cgi-bin/penzeys/p-penzeysmuralofflavor.html
some of the ingredients would just burn if I put it on first and seared at high heat
Hand mixed from shallots, onion, garlic, thyme, rosemary, basil, coriander, lemon peel, citric acid, black pepper, chives, green peppercorns, dill weed, and orange peel.
instead I put it after but before vacuum sealing so that the flavors could help in a way to marinate the meat
again, being the self proclaimed expert in all thing cooking you know that people put in aromatics prior to vacuum sealing
not part of the recipe that this guy used but I had it on my counter and just decided to use it
Again,
Here is what you wrote: I also used this seasoning (after searing)
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I like mcdonalds.....especially their mcchickens. I like all their food and I don't feel like shit after eating it. I feel extra thirsty though, which makes sense.
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Beer Cooler is way easier, more consistent and needs no monitoring and works 100 percent of the time.
Your water temperature fluctuated, you just didn`t realize it since you didn`t monitor it (something you do not have to do with a Beer Cooler). Your meat looks a bit overcooked to me based on your picture. I was dead on the money regarding the fatty, flabby mess you had on your hands to which you admit to.
You do not need two different thermometers with a Beer Cooler. Only one and that is to check the water only ONE time when you get it to proper temperature. After that, you put the meat in and you are done.
There is no benefit of Pre-Searing, especially regarding Sous Vide. That is just retarded.
Keep making it more difficult for yourself and keep failing.
I do not care.
As for your brother, he obviously wanted to brag when he sent you the pictures and then you tried to duplicate it using an alternate method. You took a picture of it too, which I assumed you took to send to your brother. You DID NOT take it for me or to post on this forum. You made it yesterday and took the picture yesterday and then shared it with your brother. You WANTED to Pwn him, but it just didn`t pan out.
Now tell me I am wrong. (I`m not)
yep, once again you are wrong
It's ridiculous how arrogant you are
my brother are I are great friends and he wasn't bragging AT ALL
his wife gave him a SV machine for Christmas and I asked him to let me know how it worked out
people can share pics and information without bragging
in fact he was a bit disappointed with some of the items he made so basically the exact opposite of bragging
Maybe that is confusing to you because you're constantly bragging
Regard the temperature I actually used two thermometers (didn't trust the cheap one to be accurate - though it turned out to be fine) and I set the alarm on the digital one if it went over 135 which it never did and I doubt it dropped much because I tested the water temp quite a bit before I started. I needed to figure out what setting and which burner I would need to keep it at ~ 130. I did this BEFORE I put in the meat so I didn't need to babysit it. I also glanced at it a few times when I went into the kitchen to get a beer while watching the game but I certainly didn't stand there.
I also made sure that the water didn't cool down too much when the meat went it. I put it in and watched if for the first few minutes and the temp remained very steady. When I checked (the couple of times that I did) I check the temp at the top of the water and the bottom of the pot and it only varied by 2 degrees
Again, there are benefits to pre-searing
here they are again
read them and then if you want to refute these specific benefits with specific reasons why you don't agree
Again, these are not my ideas or opinions and I did not claim to be an expert
I followed the direction of an actual former professional chef
that seems to make more sense that taking the advice of an arrogant idiot on a message board who
http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
Improve Flavor
The Maillard reaction begins as a simple reaction between amino acids and sugars found in all protein-rich foods but quickly becomes elaborate: molecules keep reacting in ever more complex ways to generate hundreds of new aromatic molecules that make food smell delicious. These aromas are responsible for the characteristic smells of roasting meat, baking bread, grilling fish, and so on.
Presearing meats, seafood, or other high-protein content foods quickly dehydrates and raises the surface temperature well above 265 °F / 130 °C, which triggers the Maillard reaction. The aromas that result will continue to develop during the low-temperature sous vide cooking step. Often this simple extra step yields a richer flavor than if you only seared the food after sous vide cooking, when there is less time for the flavor to develop.
Minimize Overcooking
By doing the bulk of the searing prior to cooking, when the food is cold, you do the least possible overcooking of the flesh beneath the surface. This enhances the evenness of the cooking—a hallmark of the sous vide process.
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TA, if McDonalds is so healthy and a calorie is just a calorie you should totes go on an all McDonalds diet.
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I like mcdonalds.....especially their mcchickens. I like all their food and I don't feel like shit after eating it. I feel extra thirsty though, which makes sense.
I think a Chicken McNugget is one of the tastiest things ever. I don't care what it's made out of.
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Thats why they call it junk food people! Sometimes you have to live a little.
Mcdonald's is the bottom of the barrel of fast food burgers though. Burger King and Wendy's are much better tasting.
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Were you an alcoholic when you were fat?
Reason I ask is I havent met any fat alcys.
i know what you mean they often skinny with gut.
but i do know some severly obese alcis, you just dont see them often bc they uhm just die early
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McDonalds sucks .
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Totally guilty of eating fast food. doesn't do shit to my stomach except a stomach virus once in a blue moon. You got to pay the price once in a while for all the decadence :D
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Hope this helps.
Organic food is way better...
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Organic food is way better...
Just fucking with you TA!!
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Organic food is way better...
I tried Purdue chicken strips (without preservatives) and I thought they tasted spoiled straight out of the container. They were slimy and tasted like shit.
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There are no preservatives in Mcdonalds beef and it has a fat ratio of 20 percent to 80 lean. The actual quality is also high.
sodium is a preservative.
hope this helps :D
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sodium is a preservative.
hope this helps :D
Sodium is in everything.
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What kind of circulator do you use?
Also on a side note to everyone: Chipotle Sous Vides all their meat. So you if like Chipotle, you are eating Sous Vide.
You sure about that? I've seen them put what looks like completely raw chicken and steak on the grill?
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Bitching about McDonalds is a real first-world problem. Getting McDonalds in a lot of places is often the best bet as far as food quality and safety is concerned, not just in shithole countries but in the US as well.
sure and their icecream is the best.
but for bodybuilding stuff,tht food is shit
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Sodium is in everything.
The problem arises when salt is added. It makes people addicted to certain foods.
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Bitching about McDonalds is a real first-world problem. Getting McDonalds in a lot of places is often the best bet as far as food quality and safety is concerned, not just in shithole countries but in the US as well.
I know, I want to slap people when they complain.
"The quality of my junk food is reprehensible!"
I just want to tell these pussies to shut the fuck up. ::)
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After you eat really clean for a good while,eating a McDonalds burger is like eating a jar of Vaseline covered in a box of salt.
Mystery Meat Of Peace
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Has anyone noticed that eating is an activity for some people? They do not even have to be hungry, they just eat to eat. Favorite show on? Eat. Bored? Eat. Depressed?. Eat.
It is a potential disease/addiction all it's own.
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TA, if McDonalds is so healthy and a calorie is just a calorie you should totes go on an all McDonalds diet.
Its already been done.
(http://toobbox.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/chazz-weaver-downsize-me.jpg)
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Organic food is way better...
No its not.
The American Journal of Clinical Nutrition last year published a study of 162 scientific papers from the past 50 years on the health benefits of organically grown foods and found no nutritional advantage over conventionally grown foods.
http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abstract/ajcn.2009.28041v1
Am J Clin Nutr (July 29, 2009). doi:10.3945/ajcn.2009.28041
© 2009 American Society for Clinical Nutrition
Nutritional quality of organic foods: a systematic review1,2,3,4
Alan D Dangour, Sakhi K Dodhia, Arabella Hayter, Elizabeth Allen, Karen Lock and Ricardo Uauy
1 From the Nutrition and Public Health Intervention Research Unit (ADD, SKD, AH, and RU) and the Medical Statistics Unit (EA), Department of Epidemiology and Population Health, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, London, United Kingdom, and the Health Services Research Unit, Department of Public Health and Policy, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, London, UK (KL).
2 The funding organization had no role in the study design, data collection, analysis, interpretation, or writing of the report. The review team held 6 progress meetings with the funding organization.
3 Supported by the UK Food Standards Agency (PAU221).
4 Address correspondence to AD Dangour, Nutrition and Public Health Intervention Research Unit, Department of Epidemiology and Population Health, London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine, Keppel Street, London WC1E 7HT, United Kingdom. E-mail: alan.dangour@lshtm.ac.uk.
ABSTRACT
Background: Despite growing consumer demand for organically produced foods, information based on a systematic review of their nutritional quality is lacking.
Objective: We sought to quantitatively assess the differences in reported nutrient content between organically and conventionally produced foodstuffs.
Design: We systematically searched PubMed, Web of Science, and CAB Abstracts for a period of 50 y from 1 January 1958 to 29 February 2008, contacted subject experts, and hand-searched bibliographies. We included peer-reviewed articles with English abstracts in the analysis if they reported nutrient content comparisons between organic and conventional foodstuffs. Two reviewers extracted study characteristics, quality, and data. The analyses were restricted to the most commonly reported nutrients.
Results: From a total of 52,471 articles, we identified 162 studies (137 crops and 25 livestock products); 55 were of satisfactory quality. In an analysis that included only satisfactory quality studies, conventionally produced crops had a significantly higher content of nitrogen, and organically produced crops had a significantly higher content of phosphorus and higher titratable acidity. No evidence of a difference was detected for the remaining 8 of 11 crop nutrient categories analyzed. Analysis of the more limited database on livestock products found no evidence of a difference in nutrient content between organically and conventionally produced livestock products.
Conclusions: On the basis of a systematic review of studies of satisfactory quality, there is no evidence of a difference in nutrient quality between organically and conventionally produced foodstuffs. The small differences in nutrient content detected are biologically plausible and mostly relate to differences in production methods.
Received for publication May 7, 2009. Accepted for publication July 2, 2009.
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After you eat really clean for a good while,eating a McDonalds burger is like eating a jar of Vaseline covered in a box of salt.
Mystery Meat Of Peace
Agreed. Although I think their other stuff is probably not as bad, ice cream, etc. No more burgers for me though.
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Agreed. Although I think their other stuff is probably not as bad, ice cream, etc. No more burgers for me though.
Stop being a pussy. A cheat meal/day is perfectly fine.
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After you eat really clean for a good while,eating a McDonalds burger is like eating a jar of Vaseline covered in a box of salt.
Mystery Meat Of Peace
What is the mystery? ???
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Its already been done.
(http://toobbox.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/chazz-weaver-downsize-me.jpg)
Paid by the McDonalds corporation. ;D
By the way we know that works when you're on steroids, try it on a natural to see the REAL results.
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No its not.
Sorry, True Adonis!!!
I was just kidding
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yep, once again you are wrong
It's ridiculous how arrogant you are
my brother are I are great friends and he wasn't bragging AT ALL
his wife gave him a SV machine for Christmas and I asked him to let me know how it worked out
people can share pics and information without bragging
in fact he was a bit disappointed with some of the items he made so basically the exact opposite of bragging
Maybe that is confusing to you because you're constantly bragging
Regard the temperature I actually used two thermometers (didn't trust the cheap one to be accurate - though it turned out to be fine) and I set the alarm on the digital one if it went over 135 which it never did and I doubt it dropped much because I tested the water temp quite a bit before I started. I needed to figure out what setting and which burner I would need to keep it at ~ 130. I did this BEFORE I put in the meat so I didn't need to babysit it. I also glanced at it a few times when I went into the kitchen to get a beer while watching the game but I certainly didn't stand there.
I also made sure that the water didn't cool down too much when the meat went it. I put it in and watched if for the first few minutes and the temp remained very steady. When I checked (the couple of times that I did) I check the temp at the top of the water and the bottom of the pot and it only varied by 2 degrees
Again, there are benefits to pre-searing
here they are again
read them and then if you want to refute these specific benefits with specific reasons why you don't agree
Again, these are not my ideas or opinions and I did not claim to be an expert
I followed the direction of an actual former professional chef
that seems to make more sense that taking the advice of an arrogant idiot on a message board who
http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
Improve Flavor
The Maillard reaction begins as a simple reaction between amino acids and sugars found in all protein-rich foods but quickly becomes elaborate: molecules keep reacting in ever more complex ways to generate hundreds of new aromatic molecules that make food smell delicious. These aromas are responsible for the characteristic smells of roasting meat, baking bread, grilling fish, and so on.
Presearing meats, seafood, or other high-protein content foods quickly dehydrates and raises the surface temperature well above 265 °F / 130 °C, which triggers the Maillard reaction. The aromas that result will continue to develop during the low-temperature sous vide cooking step. Often this simple extra step yields a richer flavor than if you only seared the food after sous vide cooking, when there is less time for the flavor to develop.
Minimize Overcooking
By doing the bulk of the searing prior to cooking, when the food is cold, you do the least possible overcooking of the flesh beneath the surface. This enhances the evenness of the cooking—a hallmark of the sous vide process.
Use a Beer Cooler. As I said, your setup is garbage and it will be a fail until you either:
A: Use a Beer Cooler
or
B: Get a Circulator or Sous Vide Machine.
Until then, you will continue to reproduce mediocre results as evidenced by your picture. Learn how to sear properly while you are at it. The layered ring of flab is disgusting and constitutes a fail.
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you guys are wasting your lives talking about how to cook that heme-iron
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Paid by the McDonalds corporation. ;D
By the way we know that works when you're on steroids, try it on a natural to see the REAL results.
He wasn`t paid by anyone. Furthermore, it makes no difference if you are on steroids or not. Is eating really a mystery to you?
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Agreed. Although I think their other stuff is probably not as bad, ice cream, etc. No more burgers for me though.
I love their freakin` milk shakes,but I only drink one in a blue moon, and usually when I`m very lean.................kin d of refills my muscles.
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Sorry, True Adonis!!!
I was just kidding
LOL, I know. I jumped the gun and didn`t scroll down. Just got back from working out and having two double Cheeseburgers from Burger King with Extra Salt and Ketchup added.
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LOL, I know. I jumped the gun and didn`t scroll down. Just got back from working out and having two double Cheeseburgers from Burger King with Extra Salt and Ketchup added.
*vomits*
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Use a Beer Cooler. As I said, your setup is garbage and it will be a fail until you either:
A: Use a Beer Cooler
or
B: Get a Circulator or Sous Vide Machine.
Until then, you will continue to reproduce mediocre results as evidenced by your picture. Learn how to sear properly while you are at it. The layered ring of flab is disgusting and constitutes a fail.
fat was cooked perfectly and not grizzled like it sometimes get when seared and I preferred the texture and taste (try to keep in your bird sized brain that it was sitting at 130 degrees for 2.5 hours and was not flabby or cold)
why the fuck should I use a beer cooler when I can maintain perfect temperature control on a stove top and nothing I've read about the beer cooler method indicates that it's superior to the stove top method and in fact it appears to be more difficult (and require more babysitting) if you're trying to maintain a specific temperature which is the point in the first place.
what exactly are you credential to be giving advise about anything (other than bad hair cuts and polio like legs - on those topics I will definitely defer to you)?
you don't know me or my brother yet you assume we're trying to PWN each other?
Are you this much of a douche in real life?
Are you so insecure that you feel the need to PWN your friends and family
that's the only reason I can think that you would just assume that about others who you don't even know
I see you haven't bothered to refute the benefit of pre-searing as stated in the article (which also mentioned that if you pre-sear then post searing might not even be necessary)
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fat was cooked perfectly and not grizzled like it sometimes get when seared and I preferred the texture and taste (try to keep in your bird sized brain that it was sitting at 130 degrees for 2.5 hours and was not flabby or cold)
why the fuck should I use a beer cooler when I can maintain perfect temperature control on a stove top and nothing I've read about the beer cooler method indicates that it's superior to the stove top method and in fact it appears to be more difficult (and require more babysitting) if you're trying to maintain a specific temperature which is the point in the first place.
what exactly are you credential to be giving advise about anything (other than bad hair cuts and polio like legs - on those topics I will definitely defer to you)?
you don't know me or my brother yet you assume we're trying to PWN each other?
Are you this much of a douche in real life?
Are you so insecure that you feel the need to PWN your friends and family
that's the only reason I can think that you would just assume that about others who you don't even know
I see you haven't bothered to refute the benefit of pre-searing as stated in the article (which also mentioned that if you pre-sear then post searing might not even be necessary)
Just scratch him behind the ears and tell him he's right, will ya?
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LOL, I know. I jumped the gun and didn`t scroll down. Just got back from working out and having two double Cheeseburgers from Burger King with Extra Salt and Ketchup added.
You funny bastard! ;D
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IS this shit real? You feel like shit? Honestly? Gayest/weeakest complaining ive ever heard.
I imagine Arnold asking "Who is your daddy and what does he do?" Your kids would say "my dad ate a fucking burger and he felt sick. He's a giant pussy"
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Just scratch him behind the ears and tell him he's right, will ya?
come on
At least I acknowledged I would defer to his advice for bad haircuts and polio like legs
Isn't that enough ?
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IS this shit real? You feel like shit? Honestly? Gayest/weeakest complaining ive ever heard.
I imagine Arnold asking "Who is your daddy and what does he do?" Your kids would say "my dad ate a fucking burger and he felt sick. He's a giant pussy"
:D
I love when you come outta the wordwork to hurl completely random . insults before disappearing again.
I mich prefer this version of you to the circa 05-06 one who was constantly tauting the miraculous greatness of weed.
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fat was cooked perfectly and not grizzled like it sometimes get when seared and I preferred the texture and taste (try to keep in your bird sized brain that it was sitting at 130 degrees for 2.5 hours and was not flabby or cold)
why the fuck should I use a beer cooler when I can maintain perfect temperature control on a stove top and nothing I've read about the beer cooler method indicates that it's superior to the stove top method and in fact it appears to be more difficult (and require more babysitting) if you're trying to maintain a specific temperature which is the point in the first place.
what exactly are you credential to be giving advise about anything (other than bad hair cuts and polio like legs - on those topics I will definitely defer to you)?
you don't know me or my brother yet you assume we're trying to PWN each other?
Are you this much of a douche in real life?
Are you so insecure that you feel the need to PWN your friends and family
that's the only reason I can think that you would just assume that about others who you don't even know
I see you haven't bothered to refute the benefit of pre-searing as stated in the article (which also mentioned that if you pre-sear then post searing might not even be necessary)
Here you go disgusting doofus.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/03/how-to-sous-vide-steak.html
Searing
Unfortunately, sous-vide cooking is deficient in one key category: it doesn't brown your meat. The browning reactions that take place to give your meat those wonderful crusty, roasted aromas only take place to a significant degree at temperatures well above 300°F, a good 170°F hotter than normal sous-vide cooking temperatures, which means that you still need to pull out the sauté pan to finish.
The key is to sear the meat as quickly as possible, to prevent any possible overcooking. Have your skillet ready and ripping hot before the meat comes out of the water bath, dry the steak thoroughly before adding it to the pan (wet meat will cool the pan down faster than dry meat), and leave it in the pan only long enough to color.
The question on my mind: some chefs pre-sear their meat before adding it to the bag, claiming that the browned flavors penetrate into the meat as it cooks in the water bath. Is this true?
20100303-sous-vide-steaks-pre-sear.jpg
Steaks just out of the bag—untreated on the left, pre-seared on the right. [Photographs: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt]
To find out, I cooked two identical steaks at 130°F, one with a pre-sear for one minute per-side in a 550°F skillet, and one without. Some of the color on the pre-seared version fades during its time in the bag. One can only hope that this is due to the fact that it has been somehow transported into the meat, reinforcing its flavor.
20100303-sous-vide-steaks-pre-sear?.jpg
Same steaks, post-searing. [Photographs: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt]
These are the same two steaks after being seared for a minute per side in 550°F skillet, in hot canola oil. Visually, there's not too much distinction. And flavor-wise? In a blind tasting, tasters were split across the board on which one they preferred, and when asked to correctly identify which steak was which, they fared no better than chance.
Conclusion: Don't bother with the pre-sear—you develop plenty of flavor with just the single, post-water bath sear.
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fat was cooked perfectly and not grizzled like it sometimes get when seared and I preferred the texture and taste (try to keep in your bird sized brain that it was sitting at 130 degrees for 2.5 hours and was not flabby or cold)
why the fuck should I use a beer cooler when I can maintain perfect temperature control on a stove top and nothing I've read about the beer cooler method indicates that it's superior to the stove top method and in fact it appears to be more difficult (and require more babysitting) if you're trying to maintain a specific temperature which is the point in the first place.
what exactly are you credential to be giving advise about anything (other than bad hair cuts and polio like legs - on those topics I will definitely defer to you)?
you don't know me or my brother yet you assume we're trying to PWN each other?
Are you this much of a douche in real life?
Are you so insecure that you feel the need to PWN your friends and family
that's the only reason I can think that you would just assume that about others who you don't even know
I see you haven't bothered to refute the benefit of pre-searing as stated in the article (which also mentioned that if you pre-sear then post searing might not even be necessary)
Oh brother. The pic speaks volumes. Your Sear or lack thereof was a complete fail. You already admitted you like gummy, flabby fat (although I think this is just a coverup due to your failure).
Use a Beer Cooler moron.
You can be hard headed if you want and keep fucking up, or you can do it right.
You are no different than the shitbrained hard headed Republicans you try to make fun of everyday.
You are a dunderheaded lummox. A worthless poster nobody likes on Getbig.
And your setup is a joke.
Use a Beer Cooler.
Wait, don`t use one. Keep PWNING yourself and keep posting pictures of your "results". I get a kick out of your futile stupidity. (especially when the correct info has been posted and yet you relent. You are insane)
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Oh brother. The pic speaks volumes. Your Sear or lack thereof was a complete fail. You already admitted you like gummy, flabby fat (although I think this is just a coverup due to your failure).
Use a Beer Cooler moron.
You can be hard headed if you want and keep fucking up, or you can do it right.
You are no different than the shitbrained hard headed Republicans you try to make fun of everyday.
You are a dunderheaded lummox. A worthless poster nobody likes on Getbig.
And your setup is a joke.
Use a Beer Cooler.
Wait, don`t use one. Keep PWNING yourself and keep posting pictures of your "results". I get a kick out of your futile stupidity. (especially when the correct info has been posted and yet you relent. You are insane)
Link to beer cooler so I have an example of what to get.
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Link to beer cooler so I have an example of what to get.
Here you go my friend.
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Here you go disgusting doofus.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/03/how-to-sous-vide-steak.html
Searing
Unfortunately, sous-vide cooking is deficient in one key category: it doesn't brown your meat. The browning reactions that take place to give your meat those wonderful crusty, roasted aromas only take place to a significant degree at temperatures well above 300°F, a good 170°F hotter than normal sous-vide cooking temperatures, which means that you still need to pull out the sauté pan to finish.
The key is to sear the meat as quickly as possible, to prevent any possible overcooking. Have your skillet ready and ripping hot before the meat comes out of the water bath, dry the steak thoroughly before adding it to the pan (wet meat will cool the pan down faster than dry meat), and leave it in the pan only long enough to color.
The question on my mind: some chefs pre-sear their meat before adding it to the bag, claiming that the browned flavors penetrate into the meat as it cooks in the water bath. Is this true?
20100303-sous-vide-steaks-pre-sear.jpg
Steaks just out of the bag—untreated on the left, pre-seared on the right. [Photographs: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt]
To find out, I cooked two identical steaks at 130°F, one with a pre-sear for one minute per-side in a 550°F skillet, and one without. Some of the color on the pre-seared version fades during its time in the bag. One can only hope that this is due to the fact that it has been somehow transported into the meat, reinforcing its flavor.
20100303-sous-vide-steaks-pre-sear?.jpg
Same steaks, post-searing. [Photographs: J. Kenji Lopez-Alt]
These are the same two steaks after being seared for a minute per side in 550°F skillet, in hot canola oil. Visually, there's not too much distinction. And flavor-wise? In a blind tasting, tasters were split across the board on which one they preferred, and when asked to correctly identify which steak was which, they fared no better than chance.
Conclusion: Don't bother with the pre-sear—you develop plenty of flavor with just the single, post-water bath sear.
from your post above you at the very least have proven their is no down side to pre-searing yet two pages ago you were calling it "moronic" (this is par for the course of you talking out of your ass about something you clearly have no personal experience with) so if you want to see someone who just PWND themself go take a look at your ugly mug in the mirror for as long as you can tolerate it
As pointed out in the article (and video) that I posted there are other reasons to pre-sear that you didn't mention such as killing surface bacteria and minimizing overcooking when searing afterward
watch the actual video to see the difference (posted for you now a third time) http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
I still haven't heard why I should trust your opinion over a professional chef with 20+ years of experience including teaching at the California Culinary Academy (that the person who's method I followed in the first video I posted)
Feel free to explain how you are more qualified and why I should trust your advice over his
I can see you posted a beer cooler sous vide method you found on the internet but have you actually done it?
Everything I've read says it takes more work to maintain temp (gotta keep extra water on hand if it starts to get cold, gotta check it etc) where the stove top method is pretty flipping easy where you just bring it to temp and it stays there with no effort or checking
I see no benefit but once you explain your superior credentials to the person whose recommendations I followed then you can tell us your vast experience with the beer cooler vs. stove top
Heck, even better you can post some pictures of the many times that you've done the beer cooler method
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Two copy and paste titans doing battle in this thread.
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Oh brother. The pic speaks volumes. Your Sear or lack thereof was a complete fail. You already admitted you like gummy, flabby fat (although I think this is just a coverup due to your failure).
Use a Beer Cooler moron.
You can be hard headed if you want and keep fucking up, or you can do it right.
You are no different than the shitbrained hard headed Republicans you try to make fun of everyday.
You are a dunderheaded lummox. A worthless poster nobody likes on Getbig.
And your setup is a joke.
Use a Beer Cooler.
Wait, don`t use one. Keep PWNING yourself and keep posting pictures of your "results". I get a kick out of your futile stupidity. (especially when the correct info has been posted and yet you relent. You are insane)
I said no such thing
feel free to find my quote and post repost it here
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Two copy and paste titans doing battle in this thread.
very little copying or pasting in my posts other than a link to an article or a video
also no claim by me to be any kind of a superior cook or chef
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from your post above you at the very least have proven their is no down side to pre-searing yet two pages ago you were calling it "moronic" (this is par for the course of you talking out of your ass about something you clearly have no personal experience with) so if you want to see someone who just PWND themself go take a look at your ugly mug in the mirror for as long as you can tolerate it
As pointed out in the article (and video) that I posted there are other reasons to pre-sear that you didn't mention such as killing surface bacteria and minimizing overcooking when searing afterward
watch the actual video to see the difference (posted for you now a third time) http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
I still haven't heard why I should trust your opinion over a professional chef with 20+ years of experience including teaching at the California Culinary Academy (that the person who's method I followed in the first video I posted)
Feel free to explain how you are more qualified and why I should trust your advice over his
I can see you posted a beer cooler sous vide method you found on the internet but have you actually done it?
Everything I've read says it takes more work to maintain temp (gotta keep extra water on hand if it starts to get cold, gotta check it etc) where the stove top method is pretty flipping easy where you just bring it to temp and it stays there with no effort or checking
I see no benefit but once you explain your superior credentials to the person whose recommendations I followed then you can tell us your vast experience with the beer cooler vs. stove top
Heck, even better you can post some pictures of the many times that you've done the beer cooler method
Your whole setup is moronic. Be a hard headed fool, its what suits you best.
As I said, keep failure in your cooking repertoire. I find it amusing. You don`t have a clue as to what you are doing and you don`t even want to learn the proper techniques. Let myths guide you instead of Science. Thats your prerogative, you repugnant reptilian brained schmuck.
I hope you burn down your kitchen with your little pots and thermometer included.
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Your whole setup is moronic. Be a hard headed fool, its what suits you best.
As I said, keep failure in your cooking repertoire. I find it amusing. You don`t have a clue as to what you are doing and you don`t even want to learn the proper techniques. Let myths guide you instead of Science. Thats your prerogative, you repugnant reptilian brained schmuck.
I hope you burn down your kitchen with your little pots and thermometer included.
Uncharacteristiclly emotional response from you TA :-\
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I said no such thing
feel free to find my quote and post repost it here
Here is your quote: "I actually like the fat uncharred"
Now go look at your flabby mess of meat you posted. You FAILED to char the fat because you claim to like it flabby and gummy.
Hope this helps.
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Uncharacteristiclly emotional response from you TA :-\
I like tearing into Straw Man, the phony liberal.
He has way more in common with religious zealots and Republican Shitbrains than he realizes.
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Here is your quote: "I actually like the fat uncharred"
Now go look at your flabby mess of meat you posted. You FAILED to char the fat because you claim to like it flabby and gummy.
Hope this helps.
uncharred is not "flabby or gummy" so post where I said it was flabby or gummy or just admit you lied about that
the fat melted in my mouth (for example like a very good piece of Toro) rather than being chewy gristle like it can often be when cooked at a high temperature
Now, tell us your credential for giving cooking advice and tell us how your beer cooler sous vide turned out
I assume you must have made a thread about it somewhere when you did it because you seem to post every time you make a cup cake or corn muffin
maybe you can bump the thread you made about it when you tried it
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uncharred is not "flabby or gummy" so post where I said it was flabby or gummy or just admit you lied about that
the fat melted in my mouth (for example like a very good piece of Toro) rather than being chewy gristle like it can often be when cooked at a high temperature
Now, tell us your credential for giving cooking advice and tell us how your beer cooler sous vide turned out
I assume you must have made a thread about it somewhere when you did it because you seem to post every time you make a cup cake or corn muffin
maybe you can bump the thread you made about it when you tried it
It works 100 percent of the time. I have used it hundreds of times for Beef, Chicken and Pork. Do a search, I have mentioned it time and time again.
Your picture is all I needed to see that the fat was seriously in need of some char. The photographic evidence speaks for itself.
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It works 100 percent of the time. I have used it hundreds of times for Beef, Chicken and Pork. Do a search, I have mentioned it time and time again.
Your picture is all I needed to see that the fat was seriously in need of some char. The photographic evidence speaks for itself.
hundred of times ?
surely you must have posted some pics or made a thread about it
can you bump one of those so I can see your amazing results
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I am now about to make Crunchy Peanut Butter Marshmallow Bars with a Captain Crunch and Peanut Topping. Epic Dessert!
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I hate to say it, but I can't eat McDonald's either without feeling ill. I love the fillet'o fish, but it makes me really sick.
Could it be that it's too calorie dense for those of us who aren't use to it?
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I am now about to make Crunchy Peanut Butter Marshmallow Bars with a Captain Crunch and Peanut Topping. Epic Dessert!
before you do that can you bump one of those thread when you did the beer cooler method
given your penchant to post pictures of all the other shit you've made I have to assume you would have made at least one thread or at least have some pics of one of the hundreds of times you've done this method (we'll ignore the obvious fact that sous vide really only became popular and well known in the last few years)
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before you do that can you bump one of those thread when you did the beer cooler method
given your penchant to post pictures of all the other shit you've made I have to assume you would have made at least one thread or at least have some pics of one of the hundreds of times you've done this method (we'll ignore the obvious fact that sous vide really only became popular and well know in the last few years)
I copied him when he originally posted about it. It works well for me. I go 140 degrees and it comes out medium rare. Adonis said that was too hot for medium rare though.
Then I sear it on extremely hot cast iron.
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given your penchant to post pictures of all the other shit you've made I have to assume you would have made at least one thread or at least have some pics of one of the hundreds of times you've done this method (we'll ignore the obvious fact that sous vide really only became popular and well know in the last few years)
TA is a very humble and private person, I wouldn't expect him to post many photos of his delicious meals.
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I copied him when he originally posted about it. It works well for me. I go 140 degrees and it comes out medium rare. Adonis said that was too hot for medium rare though.
Then I sear it on extremely hot cast iron.
it's cool that you did it
I'm asking TA to bump some of of those threads
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It works 100 percent of the time. I have used it hundreds of times for Beef, Chicken and Pork. Do a search, I have mentioned it time and time again.
Your picture is all I needed to see that the fat was seriously in need of some char. The photographic evidence speaks for itself.
so you admit you're a liar
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He wasn`t paid by anyone. Furthermore, it makes no difference if you are on steroids or not. Is eating really a mystery to you?
??? Are you serious?
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I hate to say it, but I can't eat McDonald's either without feeling ill. I love the fillet'o fish, but it makes me really sick.
Could it be that it's too calorie dense for those of us who aren't use to it?
you literally read my mind. I was talking with my wife about caloric density, an idea that popped into my head. Yoj really are my brother from another mother.
terrifying.
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you literally read my mind. I was talking with my wife about caloric density, an idea that popped into my head. Yoj really are my brother from another mother.
terrifying.
You, me, and polychronopolous... I'm the black sheep though ;D
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before you do that can you bump one of those thread when you did the beer cooler method
given your penchant to post pictures of all the other shit you've made I have to assume you would have made at least one thread or at least have some pics of one of the hundreds of times you've done this method (we'll ignore the obvious fact that sous vide really only became popular and well know in the last few years)
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"Modern" Sous Vide has been a thing since the 1960s, Demetrius.
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Adonis: is there any fast food that you think is shit food? Which places suck? Which are the best?
My favs: steak and shake, culvers, 5 guys
The worst: subway :-X
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Adonis: is there any fast food that you think is shit food? Which places suck? Which are the best?
My favs: steak and shake, culvers, 5 guys
The worst: subway :-X
No, no matter how fucked up... TA doesn't give a shit
I saw him eating a "Buddy Boy" at a filthy Frisches one time, he told me some science shit I didn't understand and bought me a slimey "Big Boy" with extra tarter sauce.
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No, no matter how fucked up... TA doesn't give a shit
I saw him eating a "Buddy Boy" at a filthy Frisches one time, he told me some science shit I didn't understand and bought me a slimey "Big Boy" with extra tarter sauce.
Lol prob the response we'll get :D
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"Modern" Sous Vide has been a thing since the 1960s, Demetrius.
I said it only became popular and well known in the last few years (the idea has been around since 1799 according to Wiki)
you know, the period where you did it hundreds of times
before you do that can you bump one of those thread when you did the beer cooler method
given your penchant to post pictures of all the other shit you've made I have to assume you would have made at least one thread or at least have some pics of one of the hundreds of times you've done this method (we'll ignore the obvious fact that sous vide really only became popular and well known in the last few years)
surely you must have some pics or a thread or two of one of the hundreds of times you've actually done this
do you admit you never actually tried it on the stove (the method you are shitting all over) ?
we are talking about the ridiculously mundane task of maintaining a water bath at a relatively constant temperature
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mcdonalds makes me feel great and is fucking delicious
it's just hard to keep the calories down, so i don't eat there often... i always want to have like 2-3 big macs, 20 mcnugs, a couple mcchickens, etc.
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mcdonalds makes me feel great and is fucking delicious
it's just hard to keep the calories down, so i don't eat there often... i always want to have like 2-3 big macs, 20 mcnugs, a couple mcchickens, etc.
why not just do that ?
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Of ALL the cheat meals in the world, why McDonalds?
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all bro science
now and again i eat 5 cheeseburgers in one sitting
and it's just real tasty and nothing happens
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I hate to say it, but I can't eat McDonald's either without feeling ill. I love the fillet'o fish, but it makes me really sick.
Could it be that it's too calorie dense for those of us who aren't use to it?
Same here. Only one thing makes me feel worse and that's KFC. Good heavens KFC tastes like diarrhea over here. I actually had a mini fillet a few weeks ago as it was the only thing open in this little godforsaken town I'm living in at the moment. It tasted fine eating it but then the stomach ache hit about 15 min later and it felt like I was poisoned. I managed to get home and fell into bed. Only felt better the next evening. Never again.
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Battle of who can google search the fastest.
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Everyone who post in this thread is gay and I mean everyone.
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I eat McDonalds occasionally. It usually makes me feel a little bloated that's probably down to the calories/fat/salt.
I rarely eat fast food even though my local high street is littered with them - mostly of the fried chicken variety.
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some good trolling by ta in this thread
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Everyone who post in this thread is gay and I mean everyone.
Epic self knowledge..
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TA vs. Straw Man. 2 of the biggest dopes of all time battling it out. Epic douchbaggery.
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
Happened to me a little while back. Crazy.
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
PUSSY
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That shit (literally) just sits in your stomach and pulls water from all over the place, leaving you bloated in the middle and flat everywhere else. Until you take at least 8-9 shits to flush it from your body. I can't stand that crap.
When I want to hit some junk food with higher than norm carbs and fats, I just go down to the Vietnamese place here and order a XL bowl of pho soup with sirlion, eye round, and beef balls.
Similar to this :
What is this commie food???
GTFOH
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TA vs. Straw Man. 2 of the biggest dopes of all time battling it out. Epic douchbaggery.
I'm not battling anything
I've made no claims about any kind of culinary mastery and if people like shitty food (in terms of quality) then so be it
After eating clean for awhile most people notice how truly shitty most fast food tastes and how crappy they feel after they eat it
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Adonis, can you answe my Q? Who has the worst fast food, who has the best, from a chefs standpoint.
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Adonis, can you answe my Q? Who has the worst fast food, who has the best, from a chefs standpoint.
Is TA a chef?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chef
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Adonis, can you answe my Q? Who has the worst fast food, who has the best, from a chefs standpoint.
Well are you talking Chains or Burger Joints/ Barbecue Joints etc...?
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I'm not battling anything
I've made no claims about any kind of culinary mastery and if people like shitty food (in terms of quality) then so be it
After eating clean for awhile most people notice how truly shitty most fast food tastes and how crappy they feel after they eat it
I would like to see this.
Not doubting you, I'd just like to see their thoughts, sounds interesting. I would have thought intuitively that most high-level chefs would be quite dismissive of fare like McD's.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/food-and-drink/news/worlds-most-popular-chef-says-i-fancy-a-mcdonalds-992273.html
World's most popular chef says, 'I fancy a McDonald's'
El Bulli verdict: Nobody can make a better burger for that price
By Martin Hickman, Consumer Affairs Correspondent
Wednesday, 5 November 2008
His 35-course menu is so dazzling that two million people try to book his restaurant each year, 400 for every table, and even some food critics claim it has changed their lives forever. But Ferran Adria, the Spanish chef behind El Bulli, has revealed that he actually wants to eat at McDonald's.
In an interview with The Independent, Adria said it had been a long time since he had visited the burger giant, which has been attacked over its approach to animals, the environment and health and castigated by many as a symbol of US culinary imperialism. "But I want to go back," he added.
Adria – whose restaurant has been named the world's best for three years running by Restaurant magazine – said he did not think he could make a better hamburger for the money. He said he would like to visit McDonald's to "discover" its cooking.
As the head chef of El Bulli, in Girona, northern Spain, Adria creates scientifically-developed dishes such as menthol watermelon and hibiscus paper with blackcurrant and eucalyptus. A meal at El Bulli is a five-hour extravaganza, from which diners are sometimes forced to take a break after experiencing sensory overload.
In London to promote his new book, A Day at El Bulli, Adria said people's diet could be improved through education, and he praised Jamie Oliver for doing more than any other chef to publicise the benefits of healthy eating.
But he added: "I don't think people should come and say, 'McDonald's isn't good', if you don't give me an alternative; what is the alternative, for the same price? It's like saying everybody should be driving an Aston Martin or Rolls-Royce; most people don't drive them. Cars have the price they have.
"About five or 10 years ago, the mobile phone didn't exist and people could live without it. With the price you pay for a phone, you could be eating fresh fish every day. [But] if you ask most children would they rather have a phone or eat fresh fish, they are going to say 'a phone'."
Indicating that he was concerned that McDonald's would use his comments for marketing, Adria nonetheless suggested said that if the fast-food giant hired 10 of the world's top chefs they would not be able to make a better burger – for the price.
"Maybe... they could increase the price and make a hamburger of the best quality with fresh meat. And people would have the option to eat it – but it's going to cost three times as much," he said. "I've only been [to McDonald's] three times in my entire life, now it's ages since I went there. But I want to go back."
Adria, who closes El Bulli from January to May to develop new dishes, says most tastes and flavours have yet to be discovered.
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I would like to see this.
Not doubting you, I'd just like to see their thoughts, sounds interesting. I would have thought intuitively that most high-level chefs would be quite dismissive of fare like McD's.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-15/mcdonald-s-wins-over-french-chef-with-mcbaguette-sandwich.html
McDonald’s Wins Over French Chef With McBaguette Sandwich
By Richard Vines & Caroline Connan - Jan 15, 2013 6:00 PM ET
“I’m lovin’ it,” Pierre Koffmann said after tasting for Bloomberg Television at a McDonald’s on Rue de Rivoli, in Paris. “If I was hungry walking by, I’d buy it with pleasure.”
“The garnish is good: There’s plenty of salad and plenty of everything. The bread isn’t a pure baguette because this one is shorter, but it’s good bread. Not the top bread in Paris but it’s good. I’m not disappointed by it,” said Koffmann, who held three Michelin stars at La Tante Claire in London in the 1990s.
Koffmann preferred it to a baguette from a local baker.
“I’ll go with McDonald’s,” Koffmann said. “The garnish is better. This other one was probably made this morning at 6. It looks better, with good-quality bread, but McDonald’s has a lot more garnish. The McDonald’s is warm. Bread is always better warm. It’s a trick, but McDonald’s is doing the trick.”
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Well are you talking Chains or Burger Joints/ Barbecue Joints etc...?
Fast food, say the top 25 most popular joints
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Fast food, say the top 25 most popular joints
Oh boy, that will take me a while.
Steak and Shake is at the top for starters.
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mcdonalds is trendy as fuck, fucking brilliant i hope they keep up the good work
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Agendas and deals of peace...
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TA - both of your chefs ate McDonalds in Europe where they don't use pink slime
Apparently the quality of the food is drastically better in Europe (see article below for McDonalds in France)
Also, Adria said he couldn't make a better burger "for the price" (and again, this is the higher quality European McD menu)
you highlighted that so I know you didn't miss it
I'm sure for the prices these guys are used to charging they couldn't even make the mayo for the secret sauce
If you like McDonalds then have at it but maybe you need to take a trip to Europe to get the same experience as these two chefs
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/01/24/145698222/why-mcdonalds-in-france-doesnt-feel-like-fast-food
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Oh boy, that will take me a while.
Steak and Shake is at the top for starters.
Give us your top 5 and bottom 5 picks!
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Speaking of Carl's JR.
Hadn't eaten at one of them or a Hardees in AGES... Stopped off and got me a Super Star with Bacon... Was quite tasty.
I do not like their fries though.
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TA - both of your chefs ate McDonalds in Europe where they don't use pink slime
Apparently the quality of the food is drastically better in Europe (see article below for McDonalds in France)
Also, Adria said he couldn't make a better burger "for the price" (and again, this is the higher quality European McD menu)
you highlighted that so I know you didn't miss it
I'm sure for the prices these guys are used to charging they couldn't even make the mayo for the secret sauce
If you like McDonalds then have at it but maybe you need to take a trip to Europe to get the same experience as these two chefs
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/01/24/145698222/why-mcdonalds-in-france-doesnt-feel-like-fast-food
You GODDAMNED inept Knuckle Dragging Shitbrain.
STOP spouting myths and spreading them as if they are true. YOU are EXACTLY like the shitbrain religious and shitbrain Republicans you try to make fun of. Bantering lies back and forth, thinking they are true.
Why do you not check anything? Why do you believe in myths and lies? Why are you so easily taken in by URBAN LEGENDS!. You are a piece of shit.
Hope this helps you small brained chimp:
the "pink goop" legend has been circulating for years, In a new ad, McDonald's Canada sets out to debunk the myth with a behind-the-scenes look at their production line.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/02/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnugget-pink-slime-myth-video.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+seriouseatsfeaturesvideos+(Serious+Eats)
Video: McDonald's Canada Debunks Pink Slime Myth
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Straw Man has zero credibility. He is afraid of food and believes in urban legends.
He is worthless.
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Debating about a fast food chain ::)
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Debating about a fast food chain ::)
fuck that, this thread has 9 pages debating about sous vide methods of stove top vs. beer cooler. The queer is very strong in this thread.
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You GODDAMNED inept Knuckle Dragging Shitbrain.
STOP spouting myths and spreading them as if they are true. YOU are EXACTLY like the shitbrain religious and shitbrain Republicans you try to make fun of. Bantering lies back and forth, thinking they are true.
Why do you not check anything? Why do you believe in myths and lies? Why are you so easily taken in by URBAN LEGENDS!. You are a piece of shit.
Hope this helps you small brained chimp:
the "pink goop" legend has been circulating for years, In a new ad, McDonald's Canada sets out to debunk the myth with a behind-the-scenes look at their production line.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/02/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnugget-pink-slime-myth-video.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+seriouseatsfeaturesvideos+(Serious+Eats)
Video: McDonald's Canada Debunks Pink Slime Myth
LOL at you getting angry
this is really going to make you mad
McDonalds announced about a year ago that they were going to stop using PINK SLIME in their burgers
btw - I posted this pages ago so I'm not why you're still unaware of them having done this in the US
http://www.businessinsider.com/mcdonalds-is-changing-its-burger-recipe-to-take-the-pink-slime-out-of-its-meat-2012-1
McDonald's Is Changing Its Burger Recipe To Take The 'Pink Slime' Out Of Its Meat
McDonald's is changing the recipe it uses for its burgers in the U.S., after a lengthy campaign by TV chef and food activist Jamie Oliver, reports the Daily Mail.
The fast food juggernaut used ammonium hydroxide — an additive typically found in household cleaning products to kill bacteria — in its U.S. meat. Oliver calls it "pink slime.
You'll be happy to know that they still use chlorine rinsed chicken in their McNuggets
again, the two chef you posted both ate at McDonals in Europe and apparently the McD in France is especially good
If US McDonalds had these standards I would definitely give it a try
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/01/24/145698222/why-mcdonalds-in-france-doesnt-feel-like-fast-food
McDonald's, meanwhile, offers all kinds of Frenchified dishes, from the Alpine burger with three different kinds of cheese to tasty little gallette des rois, or King's Cakes, popular after Christmas and sold by all the bakeries. Last year, it introduced the McBaguette.
Another reason McDonald's works so well here is that the food is locally sourced and very high quality. As we all know, France is the land of haute cuisine. But it's also the land of good cuisine. The French appreciate quality in any category, even fast food. Restaurateurs in France know they'll go bust if they offer substandard products. I've had friends from India tell me that the Indian restaurants in Paris are among the world's best.
And if you like good meat (who doesn't?!), then McDonald's France is clearly superior. In the U.S., McDonald's says its cattle are mostly corn-fed. While the company doesn't address on its site whether growth hormones and growth-promoting antibiotics are added to the animal feed consumed by the animals it buys, it's a reasonable assumption that they are.
French cattle are all grass fed, which many argue makes them tastier. Growth hormones are illegal here and each animal has a passport showing where it was born, raised, and slaughtered, according to McDonald's France. That's called traceability, and we don't yet have such a national system in place.
As for chicken nugget lovers, French chickens, unlike some of their American counterparts, are not rinsed in chlorine to disinfect them. The regular use of chlorine in the U.S. chicken industry is why poulet americain has long been interdit in the European Union.
Apparently even Russia doesn't want our chlorine rinsed factory raised chicken in their country
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/20/world/europe/20russia.html?_r=0
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Speaking of Carl's JR.
Hadn't eaten at one of them or a Hardees in AGES... Stopped off and got me a Super Star with Bacon... Was quite tasty.
I do not like their fries though.
I love Hardees!
Here is a tip for everyone. When you order, tell them you want everything made fresh and new. They will drop your fries fresh, make your food right there and you will get a perfect burger and fries everytime. Also, request that each item is in a separate bag. Another trick is to order without mayo or some other ingredient to where they are forced to make a new one. Just asking for it to be cooked fresh should be enough though. I always tell them I will wait for fresh fries and chicken or biscuits. They don`t mind doing it one bit because it resets their timer and makes it look like the order was instant. (they are timed on each order and the quicker for them, the better)
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Straw Man has zero credibility. He is afraid of food and believes in urban legends.
He is worthless.
Damn, you're getting mad
that always makes me laugh
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-01-15/mcdonald-s-wins-over-french-chef-with-mcbaguette-sandwich.html
McDonald’s Wins Over French Chef With McBaguette Sandwich
By Richard Vines & Caroline Connan - Jan 15, 2013 6:00 PM ET
“I’m lovin’ it,” Pierre Koffmann said after tasting for Bloomberg Television at a McDonald’s on Rue de Rivoli, in Paris. “If I was hungry walking by, I’d buy it with pleasure.”
“The garnish is good: There’s plenty of salad and plenty of everything. The bread isn’t a pure baguette because this one is shorter, but it’s good bread. Not the top bread in Paris but it’s good. I’m not disappointed by it,” said Koffmann, who held three Michelin stars at La Tante Claire in London in the 1990s.
Koffmann preferred it to a baguette from a local baker.
“I’ll go with McDonald’s,” Koffmann said. “The garnish is better. This other one was probably made this morning at 6. It looks better, with good-quality bread, but McDonald’s has a lot more garnish. The McDonald’s is warm. Bread is always better warm. It’s a trick, but McDonald’s is doing the trick.”
I have to admit, that mcbaguette is fucking awesome. But you do know that there are different standards of what can go into food in europe vs. usa. In europe you can still get the old school hot apple pies there. Did you know that M&Ms in europe only use natural food coloring while in america is yellow #5, redlake #10 ETC....
That mcbaguette looks sickly awesome.
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You GODDAMNED inept Knuckle Dragging Shitbrain.
STOP spouting myths and spreading them as if they are true. YOU are EXACTLY like the shitbrain religious and shitbrain Republicans you try to make fun of. Bantering lies back and forth, thinking they are true.
Why do you not check anything? Why do you believe in myths and lies? Why are you so easily taken in by URBAN LEGENDS!. You are a piece of shit.
Hope this helps you small brained chimp:
the "pink goop" legend has been circulating for years, In a new ad, McDonald's Canada sets out to debunk the myth with a behind-the-scenes look at their production line.
http://www.seriouseats.com/2014/02/mcdonalds-chicken-mcnugget-pink-slime-myth-video.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+seriouseatsfeaturesvideos+(Serious+Eats)
Video: McDonald's Canada Debunks Pink Slime Myth
lol, mcdonalds canada has different meat standards than the USA. has USA mcdonalds debunked the myth?
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There is chlorine in tap water.
He doesn`t know the first thing about food science and the usage of chlorine.
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I have to admit, that mcbaguette is fucking awesome. But you do know that there are different standards of what can go into food in europe vs. usa. In europe you can still get the old school hot apple pies there. Did you know that M&Ms in europe only use natural food coloring while in america is yellow #5, redlake #10 ETC....
That mcbaguette looks sickly awesome.
apparently he likes to ignore facts that contradict his beliefs
even the fact that McDonalds has admitted using pink slime and decided to stop doing so about a year ago is completely unknown to him
doesn't chlorine rinsed chicken sound appetizing
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He doesn`t know the first thing about food science and the usage of chlorine.
I'll defer to your superior credentials
can you remind us all again of what they are exactly
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apparently he likes to ignore facts that contradict his beliefs
even the fact that McDonalds has admitted using pink slime and decided to stop doing so about a year ago is completely unknown to him
doesn't chlorine rinsed chicken sound appetizing
Sorry to break the news to you, but all meat goes through processing, even the healthiest whole food kind. I knew a guy who was a USDA food inspector and meat factories actually have an allowance of rat feces per pound of meat. It's inevitable to not. Just go to any chicken facotry like purdue or fosters farms. After seeing how it's done you'd never touch a chicken breast again. Unless you go to a farm and have them slaughter it in front of your eyes you are getting processed foods.
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http://magazine.foxnews.com/food-wellness/john-stossel-debunks-food-myths-pink-slime-zebra-meat
John Stossel Debunks Food Myths: From Pink Slime to Zebra Meat
MYTH: “Pink slime” in beef is disgusting!
TRUTH: What some media outlets call “pink slime” is perfectly safe.
Why? “Because it’s just meat,” says Stossel. “It's made from the meat that clings to the bones — the parts that the meat cutters missed.” In addition, it's treated with ammonia (as meat often is), he adds, so that pathogens are killed.
Still not convinced? Stossel reports that ammonia treatment is safe, USDA-approved, and is used in ketchup and mustard even more than in beef. Also, there are no reported cases of these lean beef trimmings causing food poisoning.
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Straw Man is an Obama fan boy and a die hard liberal who will never admit he's wrong, but he knows the benefits of intermittent fasting and has provided a very valuable resource on the subject in the Nutrition board. So he's okay in my book. :)
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Sorry to break the news to you, but all meat goes through processing, even the healthiest whole food kind. I knew a guy who was a USDA food inspector and meat factories actually have an allowance of rat
feces per pound of meat. It's inevitable to not. Just go to any chicken facotry like purdue or fosters farms. After seeing how it's done you'd never touch a chicken breast again. Unless you go to a farm and have them slaughter it in front of your eyes you are getting processed foods.
I rarely very rarely eat chicken and not just for the reason you mentioned
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/01/chicken-why-art-thou-so-mediocre/
btw - The Perfect Health diet is a pretty good book and just came out in paperback
I buy my meat directly from this farm
http://www.pratherranch.com/
and occasionally from here: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/StoreFront.bok
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I rarely very rarely eat chicken and not just for the reason you mentioned
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/01/chicken-why-art-thou-so-mediocre/
btw - The Perfect Health diet is a pretty good book and just came out in paperback
I buy my meat directly from this farm
http://www.pratherranch.com/
and occasionally from here: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/StoreFront.bok
ROFLMAO at the fear based eating.
I am stronger than you. My physique is much more advanced and better than yours and I am healthier than you are.
Keep on failing. Its what you do best! :D
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I rarely very rarely eat chicken and not just for the reason you mentioned
http://perfecthealthdiet.com/2013/01/chicken-why-art-thou-so-mediocre/
btw - The Perfect Health diet is a pretty good book and just came out in paperback
I buy my meat directly from this farm
http://www.pratherranch.com/
and occasionally from here: http://www.grasslandbeef.com/StoreFront.bok
Let's talk fish. A lot of "chefs" will swear by ocean fish vs. farmed fish, but those truly in know only buy farmed. The ocean is so fucking poluted now that you have no idea where the fish swam, lived or what it ate. A farm fish is controlled in clean filtered water, eats a proper diet and you know what your product is. It's a shame that most ocean fish are just so fucking polluted.
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Straw Man is an Obama fan boy and a die hard liberal who will never admit he's wrong, but he knows the benefits of intermittent fasting and has provided a very valuable resource on the subject in the Nutrition board. So he's okay in my book. :)
If you read the thread you see that I never made any claims to culinary mastery anything of the sort
btw - I've told TA that I would defer to his superior credentials and have asked him multiple times to post them but I haven't seen them or maybe I just missed the post
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ROFLMAO at the fear based eating.
I am stronger than you. My physique is much more advanced and better than yours and I am healthier than you are.
Keep on failing. Its what you do best! :D
Do you look like this now?
No Homo :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=513284.0;attach=549360;image)
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ROFLMAO at the fear based eating.
I am stronger than you. My physique is much more advanced and better than yours and I am healthier than you are.
Keep on failing. Its what you do best! :D
I assume you've read the book
How else could you comment on it
I can tell you're a smart guy so you're aware of how shitty the quality is of most US Chicken and even the best chicken has high Omega 6 levels (and of course being the smart guy that you are you know why that is a potential health issue for many people)
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Do you look like this now?
No Homo :-X
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=513284.0;attach=549360;image)
Supersize me?
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ROFLMAO at the fear based eating.
I am stronger than you. My physique is much more advanced and better than yours and I am healthier than you are.
Keep on failing. Its what you do best! :D
:D ;D
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ROFLMAO at the fear based eating.
I am stronger than you. My physique is much more advanced and better than yours and I am healthier than you are.
Keep on failing. Its what you do best! :D
Which Model are you? the T2000?
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Straw Man has zero credibility. He is afraid of food and believes in urban legends.
He is worthless.
Ironically, my good man, your argument against Straw Man -- itself a classic argumentation fallacy, though I don't recall the Latin name -- is a clear-cut case of Argumentum Ad Hominem; i.e., diversionary personal attack, attack against the person, etc., etc. Your own riposte is, frankly, as you said, "worthless."
I think you know that, too, Adam. It's only too easy to divert from what someone says by trying to divert the issue to their character, actions or even character (per the also classic Tu Quoque: "Well, gee, pal, you snort heroin, too, so who are you to say it might soon kill me?").
Address his arguments, not the man says or even his behavior. As a fellow Star Trek fan, perhaps you'll appreciate this quote: "Perhaps the words are more important than the man."
Aside: while I cannot completely agree with the fellas who have crashed on McDonald's as they have, I DO understand where some of them are coming from. I know my friend Michael Wong, a life-long atheist, engineer, family man and self-avowed "asshole" would have a field day with some of this fast food business. He swore to me that his late DOG wouldn't even eat McMeat even when little Fuzzy Wong's bowl was empty.
Michael has largely retired from the Internet, but he still occasionally posts on this site: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/category/blog/ (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/category/blog/)
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Which Model are you? the T2000?
where are your pics
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where are your pics
In my ass.
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If you read the thread you see that I never made any claims to culinary mastery anything of the sort
btw - I've told TA that I would defer to his superior credentials and have asked him multiple times to post them but I haven't seen them or maybe I just missed the post
I have no beef with you, and I have no beef with TA. My personal opinion on the subject is somewhere between your opinion and TA's. Not everything that is natural is good for you, and not everything that is artificial is bad for you.
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where are your pics
Hi DJ181
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Let's talk fish. A lot of "chefs" will swear by ocean fish vs. farmed fish, but those truly in know only buy farmed. The ocean is so fucking poluted now that you have no idea where the fish swam, lived or what it ate. A farm fish is controlled in clean filtered water, eats a proper diet and you know what your product is. It's a shame that most ocean fish are just so fucking polluted.
my preferred fish are sardines but I also eat way too much sushi so I'm not the guy to be preaching about that
I buy cases of these every year and am currently on the waiting list for when they get back in stock
I always get the kind with skin and bones
http://www.vitalchoice.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=65&idcategory=223
I'm sure TA will weigh in and tell us why the fish sandwich at McDonalds is fantastically high quality
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:D ;D
To add a cherry on top, Adam, how do you know your physique is better than Straw Man's, or that you're stronger?
Just asking.
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I have no beef with you, and I have no beef with TA. My personal opinion on the subject is somewhere between your opinion and TA's. Not everything that is natural is good for you, and not everything that is artificial is bad for you.
I don't recall ever saying "natural is good" or "artificial is bad"
"natural" chickens are still high in Omega 6 and all the supplement I take are artificial so I can't really make generalizations like that
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(http://www3.images.coolspotters.com/photos/40612/paris-hilton-and-mcdonalds-gallery.jpg)
How can you not love Paris?
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Would love to throw that milkshake in her face, with a smile on my face :)
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Ironically, my good man, your argument against Straw Man -- itself a classic argumentation fallacy, though I don't recall the Latin name -- is a clear-cut case of Argumentum Ad Hominem; i.e., diversionary personal attack, attack against the person, etc., etc. Your own riposte is, frankly, as you said, "worthless."
I think you know that, too, Adam. It's only too easy to divert from what someone says by trying to divert the issue to their character, actions or even character (per the also classic Tu Quoque: "Well, gee, pal, you snort heroin, too, so who are you to say it might soon kill me?").
Address his arguments, not the man says or even his behavior. As a fellow Star Trek fan, perhaps you'll appreciate this quote: "Perhaps the words are more important than the man."
Aside: while I cannot completely agree with the fellas who have crashed on McDonald's as they have, I DO understand where some of them are coming from. I know my friend Michael Wong, a life-long atheist, engineer, family man and self-avowed "asshole" would have a field day with some of this fast food business. He swore to me that his late DOG wouldn't even eat McMeat even when little Fuzzy Wong's bowl was empty.
Michael has largely retired from the Internet, but he still occasionally posts on this site: http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/category/blog/ (http://www.stardestroyer.net/Mike/category/blog/)
Your friend is a moron.
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To add a cherry on top, Adam, how do you know your physique is better than Straw Man's, or that you're stronger?
Just asking.
Because he lacks these muscles.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=32469.0;attach=31230;image)
(http://i47.tinypic.com/9rkkqq.jpg)
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And these
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424688;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424687;image)
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=392504.0;attach=424689;image)
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How can you not love Paris?
She is the best!
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Lot of McMeltdowns in this thread.
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She won 50,000 in blackjack the other night after getting paid 100,000 for DJing at the casino.
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Because he lacks these muscles.
Where's your legs?
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Where's your legs?
Where are yours?
I squatted 470 last week ATG. What You?
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She won 50,000 in blackjack the other night after getting paid 100,000 for DJing at the casino.
That's awesome 8)
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Back and bis day today. Going to go up to 500 on deadlifts.
5 Sets Deadlifts
4 sets of pullups- bodyweight for 15 reps each set.
4 sets DB Rows
4 sets Underhand barbell Row
4 sets Incline DB curls
4 Sets Preacher curls
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Eat This- STRAWMAN
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You guys should watch Fat Head on netflix.
A comedian replies to the "Super Size Me" crowd by losing weight on a fast-food diet while demonstrating that almost everything you think you know about the obesity "epidemic" and healthy eating is wrong.
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html
McDouble is 'cheapest and most nutritious food in human history'
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02630/mcdonalds_2630497b.jpg)The double cheeseburger provides 390 calories, 23 grams of protein – half a daily serving – seven per cent of daily fibre, 19 grams of fat and 20 per cent of daily calcium, all for between $1 and $2,
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html
McDouble is 'cheapest and most nutritious food in human history'
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02630/mcdonalds_2630497b.jpg)The double cheeseburger provides 390 calories, 23 grams of protein – half a daily serving – seven per cent of daily fibre, 19 grams of fat and 20 per cent of daily calcium, all for between $1 and $2,
Is there artificial coloring in that freaky looking cheese? My southern grandma's cheese burgers didn't look like that.
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She won 50,000 in blackjack the other night after getting paid 100,000 for DJing at the casino.
and why did use effort to know such things?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/10210327/McDouble-is-cheapest-and-most-nutritious-food-in-human-history.html
McDouble is 'cheapest and most nutritious food in human history'
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02630/mcdonalds_2630497b.jpg)The double cheeseburger provides 390 calories, 23 grams of protein – half a daily serving – seven per cent of daily fibre, 19 grams of fat and 20 per cent of daily calcium, all for between $1 and $2,
I love this line:
“Facts are facts – where else but McDonald’s can poor people obtain so many calories per dollar?”
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Is there artificial coloring in that freaky looking cheese? My southern grandma's cheese burgers didn't look like that.
Nothing nefarious at all. Just vegetable annatto that gives the color.
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Is there artificial coloring in that freaky looking cheese? My southern grandma's cheese burgers didn't look like that.
Yes there is.
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Yes there is.
Twaddle,
The color is from vegetable Annatto in the cheese making process. Nothing nefarious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annatto
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Twaddle,
The color is from vegetable Annatto in the cheese making process. Nothing nefarious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annatto
Color added.
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In the 12th Century they used to add Carrot to give Cheddar Cheese deep orange color.
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http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/the-truth-about-calcium-and-osteoporosis
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Color added.
Just like they did in the 12th Century.
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In the 12th Century they used to add Carrot to give Cheddar Cheese deep orange color.
yeah but you should give up those fuckin burgers youve been warned, youre gonna go through hell, i know you dont give a fuck but why suffer
http://foodmatters.tv/articles-1/the-truth-about-calcium-and-osteoporosis
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Just like they did in the 12th Century.
No, not like they did in the 12th century. This is Mcdonalds old nutritional facts for their Pasteurized Process American Cheese
Pasteurized Process American Cheese:
Milk, water, milkfat, cheese culture, sodium citrate, salt, citric acid, sorbic acid (preservative), sodium phosphate, artificial color, lactic acid, acetic acid, enzymes, soy lecithin (added for slice separation). CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.
This is how they advertise it today. Apparently, it's sounds more appealing when they remove the artificial word.
PASTEURIZED PROCESS AMERICAN CHEESE
Allergens: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN
Ingredients: Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate, Contains 2% or Less of: Salt, Citric Acid, Sodium Phosphate, Sorbic Acid (Preservative), Lactic Acid, Acetic Acid, Enzymes, Sodium Pyrophosphate, Natural Flavor (Dairy Source), Color Added, Soy Lecithin (Added for Slice Separation). CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.
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No, not like they did in the 12th century. This is Mcdonalds old nutritional facts for their Pasteurized Process American Cheese
Pasteurized Process American Cheese:
Milk, water, milkfat, cheese culture, sodium citrate, salt, citric acid, sorbic acid (preservative), sodium phosphate, artificial color, lactic acid, acetic acid, enzymes, soy lecithin (added for slice separation). CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.
This is how they advertise it today. Apparently, it's sounds more appealing when they remove the artificial word.
PASTEURIZED PROCESS AMERICAN CHEESE
Allergens: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN
Ingredients: Milk, Cream, Water, Cheese Culture, Sodium Citrate, Contains 2% or Less of: Salt, Citric Acid, Sodium Phosphate, Sorbic Acid (Preservative), Lactic Acid, Acetic Acid, Enzymes, Sodium Pyrophosphate, Natural Flavor (Dairy Source), Color Added, Soy Lecithin (Added for Slice Separation). CONTAINS: MILK AND SOY LECITHIN.
Whats the problem? ??? Its a vegetable dye as I said earlier.
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Your friend is a moron.
You forgot to insult his friends dog
Seriously man, what's happened to you. You seem to have this need to be seen as an unassailable authority figure on any topic in which you choose to deem yourself an expert.
In order to do this you consistently avoid addressing posts that contradict or refute your beliefs and then when that strategy peters out and you start to get really frustrated you turn to ad hominem attacks.
Why can't you just have a discussion or even a debate like a normal adult without histrionics, name calling, and acting like an angry child?
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You forgot to insult his friends dog
Seriously man, what's happened to you. You seem to have this need to be seen as an unassailable authority figure on any topic in which you choose to deem yourself an expert.
In order to do this you consistently avoid addressing posts that contradict or refute your beliefs and then when that strategy peters out and you start to get really frustrated you turn to ad hominem attacks.
Why can't you just have a discussion or even a debate like a normal adult without histrionics, name calling, and acting like an angry child?
I have addressed everything. You keep asking for "credentials". Ad hominem much? ROFLMAO.
You=moron.
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You forgot to insult his friends dog
Seriously man, what's happened to you. You seem to have this need to be seen as an unassailable authority figure on any topic in which you choose to deem yourself an expert.
In order to do this you consistently avoid addressing posts that contradict or refute your beliefs and then when that strategy peters out and you start to get really frustrated you turn to ad hominem attacks.
Why can't you just have a discussion or even a debate like a normal adult without histrionics, name calling, and acting like an angry child?
Furthermore I do not hold "beliefs". Everything I posted is based on Science and Evidence and Fact.
You may hold "beliefs", I do not. I go wherever the evidence and facts take me.
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I love this line:
“Facts are facts – where else but McDonald’s can poor people obtain so many calories per dollar?”
Good enough for Bill Gates though. He is kind of poor these days, isn`t he?
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I have addressed everything. You keep asking for "credentials". Ad hominem much? ROFLMAO.
You=moron.
no you did not
would you like me to bump all the posts by myself and others that you chose to ignore or will you just continue to ignore them?
and remember I told you I would defer to your credentials if you would like to post them
otherwise you're just another person on a message board.....just like the rest of us (though of course some people here do actually have academic or professional credentials to support their opinions on some topics)
All you've done in this thread is shit your diaper and throw a tantrum
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no you did not
would you like me to bump all the posts by myself and others that you chose to ignore or will you just continue to ignore them?
and remember I told you I would defer to your credentials if you would like to post them
otherwise you're just another person on a message board.....just like the rest of us (though of course some people here do actually have academic or professional credentials to support their opinions on some topics)
All you've done in this thread is shit your diaper and throw a tantrum
Don`t bump anything.
Just list it question, by question and nothing else. I have addressed nearly everything you have asked already and will do so again.
Take me out of the equation and just focus on the information I provide. Do you know how to do that?
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no you did not
would you like me to bump all the posts by myself and others that you chose to ignore or will you just continue to ignore them?
and remember I told you I would defer to your credentials if you would like to post them
otherwise you're just another person on a message board.....just like the rest of us (though of course some people here do actually have academic or professional credentials to support their opinions on some topics)
All you've done in this thread is shit your diaper and throw a tantrum
You believe in Evolution, correct? You do not have a Scientific background, correct? If you post something on Evolution does it become invalid because you do not have any Scientific background? Is this how you see things? Do you know how to identify information and nothing else?
You are EXACTLY like the shitbrained Republicans you chastise.
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Furthermore I do not hold "beliefs". Everything I posted is based on Science and Evidence and Fact.
You may hold "beliefs", I do not. I go wherever the evidence and facts take me.
our course you hold beliefs
your belief that McDonalds is taste good or is high quality, etc.. is most certainly a belief and not a fact
can you bump the post where you addressed the fact that the two Chef who tried McDonalds were in France and Spain
France in particular has so much higher standards and different menu items that it bears no resemblance to the crap they serve in the US
your belief that the stove top method of sous vide (demonstrated by an actual chef and culinary school instructor) is somehow not effective is obviously a belief and not a scientific fact
it's even worse than that because I have to assume you have never even tried the method yet you have an unassailable opinion on it and had a meltdown when challenged
do you need any more examples or is that enough fuel for your next meltdown
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our course you hold beliefs
your belief that McDonalds is taste good or is high quality, etc.. is most certainly a belief and not a fact
can you bump the post where you addressed the fact that the two Chef who tried McDonalds were in France and Spain
France in particular has so much higher standards and different menu items that it bears no resemblance to the crap they serve in the US
your belief that the stove top method of sous vide (demonstrated by an actual chef and culinary school instructor) is somehow not effective is obviously a belief and not a scientific fact
it's even worse than that because I have to assume you have never even tried the method yet you have an unassailable opinion on it and had a meltdown when challenged
do you need any more examples or is that enough fuel for your next meltdown
Its not a belief, its called an opinion. As I said before, I don`t even really like Mcdonalds, but I will defend it from myth and ignorance.
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our course you hold beliefs
your belief that McDonalds is taste good or is high quality, etc.. is most certainly a belief and not a fact
can you bump the post where you addressed the fact that the two Chef who tried McDonalds were in France and Spain
France in particular has so much higher standards and different menu items that it bears no resemblance to the crap they serve in the US
your belief that the stove top method of sous vide (demonstrated by an actual chef and culinary school instructor) is somehow not effective is obviously a belief and not a scientific fact
it's even worse than that because I have to assume you have never even tried the method yet you have an unassailable opinion on it and had a meltdown when challenged
do you need any more examples or is that enough fuel for your next meltdown
I already stated why its an inferior method to a Beer Cooler.
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And now I feel like I'm going to vomit everywhere. Wasn't even more calories than I'm used to eating in a single meal... and it was just the burger.
I gotta disagree TA, that shit is poison. I feel like absolute hell.
McD's is shit, Pure Garbage.
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our course you hold beliefs
your belief that McDonalds is taste good or is high quality, etc.. is most certainly a belief and not a fact
can you bump the post where you addressed the fact that the two Chef who tried McDonalds were in France and Spain
France in particular has so much higher standards and different menu items that it bears no resemblance to the crap they serve in the US
your belief that the stove top method of sous vide (demonstrated by an actual chef and culinary school instructor) is somehow not effective is obviously a belief and not a scientific fact
it's even worse than that because I have to assume you have never even tried the method yet you have an unassailable opinion on it and had a meltdown when challenged
do you need any more examples or is that enough fuel for your next meltdown
There is no evidence to suggest that Ferran Adria was eating in France or Spain. He was addressing specifically the burger.
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You believe in Evolution, correct? You do not have a Scientific background, correct? If you post something on Evolution does it become invalid because you do not have any Scientific background? Is this how you see things? Do you know how to identify information and nothing else?
You are EXACTLY like the shitbrained Republicans you chastise.
you really suck at giving examples
I believe in the process of evolution because it can be demonstrated in a lab and we can see it happening and we can see evidence that it happened in the past (btw the process of evolution is not debatable but how exactly we evolved from early hominids is still open for debate)
That doesn't mean I'm a scientist or qualified to offer anything more than opinions based on my limited knowledge of the topic
Same goes for you on basically every topic that I've ever seen you post about
You seem to have the need to be viewed by others as some kind of authority figure or expert
Why is that?
Seriously...why?
It's very odd behaviour
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our course you hold beliefs
your belief that McDonalds is taste good or is high quality, etc.. is most certainly a belief and not a fact
can you bump the post where you addressed the fact that the two Chef who tried McDonalds were in France and Spain
France in particular has so much higher standards and different menu items that it bears no resemblance to the crap they serve in the US
your belief that the stove top method of sous vide (demonstrated by an actual chef and culinary school instructor) is somehow not effective is obviously a belief and not a scientific fact
it's even worse than that because I have to assume you have never even tried the method yet you have an unassailable opinion on it and had a meltdown when challenged
do you need any more examples or is that enough fuel for your next meltdown
I have done the Beer Cooler Method hundreds of times. I know the heat retention properties are superior to a closed cooler than an open pot on a burner. You can test this yourself. Put 130 degree water in a cooler and measure the temperature in an hour.
Now do the same with your stove without once adjusting the temperature controls. The Beer Cooler will closer to the original starting temperature- not higher and not lower.
You don`t have to try something to know it is inferior. You have never lifted 2 lb dumb bells and only 2 lb dumb bells for 3 years to see if it will build muscle, yet you know it won`t work as good as progressive resistance.
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Furthermore I do not hold "beliefs". Everything I posted is based on Science Googling and Evidence and Fact Copy and Paste.
You may hold "beliefs", I do not. I go wherever the evidence and facts take me.
Fixed!
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you really suck at giving examples
I believe in the process of evolution because it can be demonstrated in a lab and we can see it happening and we can see evidence that it happened in the past (btw the process of evolution is not debatable but how exactly we evolved from early hominids is still open for debate)
That doesn't mean I'm a scientist or qualified to offer anything more than opinions based on my limited knowledge of the topic
Same goes for you on basically every topic that I've ever seen you post about
You seem to have the need to be viewed by others as some kind of authority figure or expert
Why is that?
Seriously...why?
It's very odd behaviour
So you think information presented from evidence is opinion and not fact because you are not "qualified"? ??? ??? ???
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Its not a belief, its called an opinion. As I said before, I don`t even really like Mcdonalds, but I will defend it from myth and ignorance.
so you're saying that a belief is not also an opinion ?
you think they are two distinctly different things ?
they are both nouns. they are both subjective points of view
Let's say I believe gay marriage is sin. Is that not also an opinion?
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TA, serious question, and I'm truly not trying to take a stab at you. Have you ever been diagnosed with any type of psychological disorder? You seem to have all the characteristics of Aspergers. Furthermore, over the years you've displayed manic depressive behaviors. One day you're super friendly and down to earth, and the next day (IE, your displays in this thread), you're freaking out on everyone. Name calling, cursing, you're wrong / I'm right, you = moron, etc.
Do psychological disorders run in your family?
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I have done the Beer Cooler Method hundreds of times. I know the heat retention properties are superior to a closed cooler than an open pot on a burner. You can test this yourself. Put 130 degree water in a cooler and measure the temperature in an hour.
Now do the same with your stove without once adjusting the temperature controls. The Beer Cooler will closer to the original starting temperature- not higher and not lower.
You don`t have to try something to know it is inferior. You have never lifted 2 lb dumb bells and only 2 lb dumb bells for 3 years to see if it will build muscle, yet you know it won`t work as good as progressive resistance.
from everything I've read the beer cooler method loses 1-2 degrees per hour and it not efficient for more than a couple of hours
Also, as I mentioned my post, I was fooling around with the stove top method which was presented in the video by an actual chef and culinary school instructor
Have you ever tried the stove top method? If not then how can you criticize it, especially when you can see a video of it working just fine
there is no need to cover the pot because at 130 degrees there is no issue with evaporation over a short periods of a few hours. The heat is retained just fine in the water and (also as I mentioned in my post) I tested the water temp at the top of the water and at the bottom of the pot.
Again, instead of just saying that it was another method you had the NEED to act like an authority figure and an expert and you were commenting on something that you almost certainly had never even done.
That is the bizarre part
Your need to attempt to elevate yourself and put others down
fucking weird
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Fixed!
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That doesn`t make any sense. So you can`t believe in Evolution unless you are a Geneticist? So all information produced by Scientists are not meant to be disseminated to the public?
Do you realize that google is just a search engine? How do you suggest I get my information? Mail order? Do you want me to go check out library books, copy them by hand, and then mail it to you? Or do you want me to reapply to a University and spend the rest of my life researching different fields since that is the only way you believe one can process information.
What am I supposed to do?
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so you're saying that a belief is not also an opinion ?
you think they are two distinctly different things ?
they are both nouns. they are both subjective points of view
Let's say I believe gay marriage is sin. Is that not also an opinion?
Its not an opinion to those who use the bible as justification.
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???
That doesn`t make any sense. So you can`t believe in Evolution unless you are a Geneticist? So all information produced by Scientists are not meant to be disseminated to the public?
Do you realize that google is just a search engine? How do you suggest I get my information? Mail order? Do you want me to go check out library books, copy them by hand, and then mail it to you? Or do you want me to reapply to a University and spend the rest of my life researching different fields since that is the only way you believe one can process information.
What am I supposed to do?
You're supposed to "lighten up Nancy". WTF is wrong with you lately? Have you gone completely mad? ???
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from everything I've read the beer cooler method loses 1-2 degrees per hour and it not efficient for more than a couple of hours
Also, as I mentioned my post, I was fooling around with the stove top method which was presented in the video by an actual chef and culinary school instructor
Have you ever tried the stove top method? If not then how can you criticize it, especially when you can see a video of it working just fine
there is no need to cover the pot because at 130 degrees there is no issue with evaporation over a short periods of a few hours. The heat is retained just fine in the water and (also as I mentioned in my post) I tested the water temp at the top of the water and at the bottom of the pot.
Again, instead of just saying that it was another method you had the NEED to act like an authority figure and an expert and you were commenting on something that you almost certainly had never even done.
That is the bizarre part
Your need to attempt to elevate yourself and put others down
fucking weird
I don`t have to do the stovetop method to realize its inferior. Why don`t you pose the question to J. Kenji Lopez Alt, an expert on both methods? (he chooses the Beer Cooler method)
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TA, serious question, and I'm truly not trying to take a stab at you. Have you ever been diagnosed with any type of psychological disorder? You seem to have all the characteristics of Aspergers. Furthermore, over the years you've displayed manic depressive behaviors. One day you're super friendly and down to earth, and the next day (IE, your displays in this thread), you're freaking out on everyone. Name calling, cursing, you're wrong / I'm right, you = moron, etc.
Do psychological disorders run in your family?
???
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You're supposed to "lighten up Nancy". WTF is wrong with you lately? Have you gone completely mad? ???
Why should I lighten up on you when you post nonsense? You really think information is out of your hands. The world must be a scary place for you.
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Its not an opinion to those who use the bible as justification.
of course it's still an opinion and that was just one example
sheesh, you need learn when to fold when you're wrong
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TA, serious question, and I'm truly not trying to take a stab at you. Have you ever been diagnosed with any type of psychological disorder? You seem to have all the characteristics of Aspergers. Furthermore, over the years you've displayed manic depressive behaviors. One day you're super friendly and down to earth, and the next day (IE, your displays in this thread), you're freaking out on everyone. Name calling, cursing, you're wrong / I'm right, you = moron, etc.
Do psychological disorders run in your family?
Never have been depressed a day in my life. I call them how I see them. If I want to call you a moron, I will. If you post something I think is bullshit, I will let you know. Nothing has ever changed.
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of course it's still an opinion and that was just one example
sheesh, you need learn when to fold when you're wrong
Its not an opinion.
People who believe in the bible and use it as justification for their beliefs see it as FACT (albeit wrong). A religious person does not think their bible is a book of opinions.
How do you not know this?
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TA, serious question, and I'm truly not trying to take a stab at you. Have you ever been diagnosed with any type of psychological disorder? You seem to have all the characteristics of Aspergers. Furthermore, over the years you've displayed manic depressive behaviors. One day you're super friendly and down to earth, and the next day (IE, your displays in this thread), you're freaking out on everyone. Name calling, cursing, you're wrong / I'm right, you = moron, etc.
Do psychological disorders run in your family?
^This.
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Never have been depressed a day in my life. I call them how I see them. If I want to call you a moron, I will. If you post something I think is bullshit, I will let you know. Nothing has ever changed.
Adam, what you're currently experiencing is a "manic state". I highly recommend you go see a doctor as soon as possible. I'm only trying to help you by telling you this.
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I don`t have to do the stovetop method to realize its inferior. Why don`t you pose the question to J. Kenji Lopez Alt, an expert on both methods? (he chooses the Beer Cooler method)
so you've never even tried it
that's exactly what I thought
the stove top method clearly works just fine and obviously there are other ways to do it too
no issue with fluctuating heat and no need to babysit and no need for me to buy a cooler, especially just when I'm fooling around
we're still back to your personal issue of having to be seen as authority figure and expert at all times
that's a bizarre personality trait
added to that bizarre trait was your weird BELIEF that I was somehow trying to PWN my brother
You don't know me or him, you didn't see our messages back and forth about this topic but you you just KNEW I was trying to PWN him
I have to say I find that even more bizarre than you need to be seen as an expert about everything
Lots of weird issues going on here
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Its not an opinion.
People who believe in the bible and use it as justification for their beliefs see it as FACT (albeit wrong). A religious person does not think their bible is a book of opinions.
How do you not know this?
still an opinion
just because it's based on the bible doesn't miraculously turn it into a fact
wtf man
this is just stupid
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Adam, what you're currently experiencing is a "manic state". I highly recommend you go see a doctor as soon as possible. I'm only trying to help you by telling you this.
Ok. I will tell them Twaddle sent me. An appointment will be made tomorrow.
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Ok. I will tell them Twaddle sent me. An appointment will be made tomorrow.
Good man. Furthermore, you should show your doctor this thread. I think it would explain a lot to him in your diagnosis. You're welcome. :D
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so you've never even tried it
that's exactly what I thought
the stove top method clearly works just fine and obviously there are other ways to do it too
no issue with fluctuating heat and no need to babysit and no need for me to buy a cooler, especially just when I'm fooling around
we're still back to your personal issue of having to be seen as authority figure and expert at all times
that's a bizarre personality trait
added to that bizarre trait was your weird BELIEF that I was somehow trying to PWN my brother
You don't know me or him, you didn't see our messages back and forth about this topic but you you just KNEW I was trying to PWN him
I have to say I find that even more bizarre than you need to be seen as an expert about everything
Lots of weird issues going on here
If it was about me, I wouldn`t be accused of "copy and pasting" information (which is not a negative thing at all) and try to pass all of this off as my own invention or experimentation or article writing.
Hope this helps.
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If it was about me, I wouldn`t be accused of "copy and pasting" information (which is not a negative thing at all) and try to pass all of this off as my own invention or experimentation or article writing.
Hope this helps.
not only does it not help
it doesn't even make any sense
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still an opinion
just because it's based on the bible doesn't miraculously turn it into a fact
wtf man
this is just stupid
Again,
The people who base their lives around the bible and use it to influence their beliefs see it as a fact. You claim its an opinion. Its not an opinion to them, its the end all. You really think that Religious people think the bible is just an opinion? ???
They use the bible, what they perceive as facts-the word of god- to justify why they think homosexuality is a sin. Its not their opinion. Now they may hold a negative opinion about gays, but when they use the bible to justify it, they think they are using fact.
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not only does it not help
it doesn't even make any sense
Of course it does. If I was trying to be The Worlds Best Expert, I would never post any sourced material, I would never credit anyone or post any article or link to any sites or mention any books, documents, news stories, papers, videos etc... I would try to pass it all off as my own doing. I don`t do that. I am more concerned with the information being disseminated.
Are you really too stupid to separate the information I provide from myself?
Then you will just claim, like Republicans and Religious people do, "you weren`t the one who invented the Beer Cooler, You weren`t the one sequencing Genomes etc.... so therefore the information must be false" and on and on and on.
As I stated earlier, you and the Shitbrain Republicans as well as Religious have a lot in common. Why you do this, I have no clue.
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Good man. Furthermore, you should show your doctor this thread. I think it would explain a lot to him in your diagnosis. You're welcome. :D
I will keep you updated.
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Of course it does. If I was trying to be The Worlds Best Expert, I would never post any sourced material, I would never credit anyone or post any article or link to any sites or mention any books, documents, news stories, papers, videos etc... I would try to pass it all off as my own doing. I don`t do that. I am more concerned with the information being disseminated.
Are you really too stupid to separate the information I provide from myself?
Then you will just claim, like Republicans and Religious people do, "you weren`t the one who invented the Beer Cooler, You weren`t the one sequencing Genomes etc.... so therefore the information must be false" and on and on and on.
As I stated earlier, you and the Shitbrain Republicans as well as Religious have a lot in common. Why you do this, I have no clue.
go back and re-read your posts on this thread and then we'll talk (try to take notice about how you're melting down, calling people names, getting defensive etc.. rather than calmly arguing for your point of view). Honestly, you should re-read what you write before you post because you sound incoherent half the time.
here is your first post about the beer cooler
Use a Beer Cooler. On the stove is stupid.
Your recipe is retarded if it told you to sear once in the beginning and once in the end. It should be done at the end of cooking in a water bath.
Notice how you don't mention anyone and just attack and insult (and that's after watching a professional chef use a different method which for some stupid reason you call "my recipe")
Let's also keep in mind that this was completely out of left field on your part as I had made no claims of culinary talent, etc..
And then of course you go nuts making assumptions about me and my brother when you don't know either of us
I hope you do take Twaddles advise because I think you not only have mental issues but some pretty serious emotional issues as well
just curious, were you an only child?
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go back and re-read your posts on this thread and then we'll talk (try to take notice about how you're melting down, calling people names, getting defensive etc.. rather than calmly arguing for your point of view). Honestly, you should re-read what you write before you post because you sound incoherent half the time.
here is your first post about the beer cooler
Notice how you don't mention anyone and just attack and insult (and that's after watching a professional chef use a different method which for some stupid reason you call "my recipe")
Let's also keep in mind that this was completely out of left field on your part as I had made no claims of culinary talent, etc..
And then of course you go nuts making assumptions about me and my brother when you don't know either of us
I hope you do take Twaddles advise because I think you not only have mental issues but some pretty serious emotional issues as well
just curious, were you an only child?
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The stovetop method is shit as outlined previously.
I don`t want to be civil. I like to make personal attacks sometimes. Its amusing to me and I do it frequently. I have always done this. I see no harm in doing so and if you are offended, all the better.
Hope this helps.
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go back and re-read your posts on this thread and then we'll talk (try to take notice about how you're melting down, calling people names, getting defensive etc.. rather than calmly arguing for your point of view). Honestly, you should re-read what you write before you post because you sound incoherent half the time.
here is your first post about the beer cooler
Notice how you don't mention anyone and just attack and insult (and that's after watching a professional chef use a different method which for some stupid reason you call "my recipe")
Let's also keep in mind that this was completely out of left field on your part as I had made no claims of culinary talent, etc..
And then of course you go nuts making assumptions about me and my brother when you don't know either of us
I hope you do take Twaddles advise because I think you not only have mental issues but some pretty serious emotional issues as well
just curious, were you an only child?
Oh, so I am supposed to fit all information in one post now? ::)
You posted that pathetic piece of meat without any explanation. You were trying to show your "prowess" initially. Why did you post that picture?
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Where are yours?
I squatted 470 last week ATG. What You?
I asked what your legs looked like not your numbers.
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The stovetop method is shit as outlined previously.
I don`t want to be civil. I like to make personal attacks sometimes. Its amusing to me and I do it frequently. I have always done this. I see no harm in doing so and if you are offended, all the better.
Hope this helps.
outlined where ?
certainly not in your first attack/response on page 7 where you just attacked without any rationale
you also attacked the chefs method of pre-searing and yet later couldn't refute all the benefits of pre-searing and the only conclusion in the link you chose to support your position came the the conclusion/opinion that it made no difference in taste in the final product (hardly a damning condemnation and still didn't address the other benefits which I posted)
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outlined where ?
certainly not in your first attack/response on page 7 where you just attacked without any rationale
you also attacked the chefs method of pre-searing and yet later couldn't refute all the benefits of pre-searing and the only conclusion in the link you chose to support your position came the the conclusion/opinion that it made no difference in taste in the final product (hardly a damning condemnation and still didn't address the other benefits which I posted)
Reread the thread. There are no benefits of pre-searing. Please read (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qudKbLmaL.jpg)
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outlined where ?
certainly not in your first attack/response on page 7 where you just attacked without any rationale
you also attacked the chefs method of pre-searing and yet later couldn't refute all the benefits of pre-searing and the only conclusion in the link you chose to support your position came the the conclusion/opinion that it made no difference in taste in the final product (hardly a damning condemnation and still didn't address the other benefits which I posted)
Here is a fact for you:
At 122°F there are no bacteria that are pathogenic (cause illness) to humans that survive. There goes your bacteria concern (myth)
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Here is a fact for you:
At 122°F there are no bacteria that are pathogenic (cause illness) to humans that survive. There goes your bacteria concern (myth)
That low? I had no idea
That's good, I would go rarer but im always concerned with bacteria. That's might be why I was sticking to 140F.
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Reread the thread. There are no benefits of pre-searing. Please read (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51qudKbLmaL.jpg)
just go back and bump your post where you claimed to outline it
your need to appear to be an expert by attacking everyone else is just pathetic and obvious and frankly embarrassing.
why do you have this need to attempt to elevate yourself as some kind of authority figure by attacking others
it's a very odd behaviour for an adult
seriously dude - there are some obvious emotional issues going on here
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just go back and bump your post where you claimed to outline it
your need to appear to be an expert by attacking everyone else is just pathetic and obvious and frankly embarrassing.
why do you have this need to attempt to elevate yourself as some kind of authority figure by attacking others
it's a very odd behaviour for an adult
seriously dude - there are some obvious emotional issues going on here
No matter how badly you want this to be about me, it isn`t.
Facts are facts. Care to refute the 122 degree pathogen?
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That low? I had no idea
That's good, I would go rarer but im always concerned with bacteria. That's might be why I was sticking to 140F.
Yeah, you should have no worries. You can even eat raw as long as the bacteria is not present, not that I would do that, but its doable.
There was a guy in here, Lifetime Natural named Swedish Viking with a great physique that would eat all his beef, chicken and fish raw. He didn`t cook anything. Do a search. He was/is an interesting fella with a hell of a physique.
At 122 degrees, searing is not even necessary to kill bacteria. Its done for taste.
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Roger, here is a picture of Swedish Viking on this site who is a lifetime natural who did not cook his beef, fish or chicken. Ate it all raw.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57467.0;attach=162913;image)
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Roger, here is a picture of Swedish Viking on this site who is a lifetime natural who did not cook his beef, fish or chicken. Ate it all raw.
(http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=57467.0;attach=162913;image)
dude was a fucking savage
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Roger,
Here is Swedish Viking log:
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=184903.0
:o
Also, I figure I'll write up what I eat as well. Today for breakfast I drank 6 raw eggs, and then ate .2kg of raw beef. For Lunch, I drank 6 raw eggs and ate .25kg raw beef, and for dinner I am going to drink 6-12 raw eggs.
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Yeah, you should have no worries. You can even eat raw as long as the bacteria is not present, not that I would do that, but its doable.
There was a guy in here, Lifetime Natural named Swedish Viking with a great physique that would eat all his beef, chicken and fish raw. He didn`t cook anything. Do a search. He was/is an interesting fella with a hell of a physique.
At 122 degrees, searing is not even necessary to kill bacteria. Its done for taste.
Ill do a search, thanks
Have you ever made steak tartare?
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No matter how badly you want this to be about me, it isn`t.
Facts are facts. Care to refute the 122 degree pathogen?
of course it's about you
you're the one who made it that way
now don't be a liar too and bump or copy the post which you claimed below and then I we can go over all the alleged benefits of the pre-sear
btw - try to keep in mind were only talking about this due to you need to attack others for no reason
I never made any claim to have special culinary skills
I was simply responding to your unprovoked and off topic attack
now bump the post you are referring to below
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The stovetop method is shit as outlined previously.
I don`t want to be civil. I like to make personal attacks sometimes. Its amusing to me and I do it frequently. I have always done this. I see no harm in doing so and if you are offended, all the better.
Hope this helps.
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of course it's about you
you're the one who made it that way
now don't be a liar too and bump or copy the post which you claimed below and then I we can go over all the alleged benefits of the pre-sear
btw - try to keep in mind were only talking about this due to you need to attack others for no reason
I never made any claim to have special culinary skills
I was simply responding to your unprovoked and off topic attack
now bump the post you are referring to below
I don`t know what you want from me. The stovetop method is inferior and is shit. There is no benefit to a pre-sear. No taste advantage. You mumbled something about bacteria being killed. Bacteria, even if it is present, (you can eat raw beef like the Swedish Viking) is killed at 122 degrees. No pathogen exists that can do any human any harm once that temperature is reached, therefore your killing bacteria claim is pointless as there would be no bacteria present to be killed because it was already killed in the water bath.
PS. If I want to call you a moron and attack you, I will. I do not have to abide by any rules. I don`t care if you hate me and I do not care if you disagree with my approach to "message board decorum" or lack thereof. As Groink says, "I am not here to make friends." (Although I have made many friends on here)
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Your friend is a moron.
Ever heard of the hasty generalization?
Eh, whatever. I'm sure he'd say the same of you. While I don't think you're an outright "moron," don't be delusional; he's way out of your league, dude. A nuclear engineer, he has his degrees in science. Meanwhile, you capitalize the word as if it is a proper noun (hint: it is not).
You looked good for a natural kid with really long arms and bow legs. But I asked how you knew you were bigger and stronger than Straw Man. Those old pics don't prove either claim.
P.S. -- You should actually look around some of Mike's pages. You'd like his Happy Atheist page. And the Science Logic and Morality subsection of his BBS is very cool.
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PS. If I want to call you a moron and attack you, I will. I do not have to abide by any rules. I don`t care if you hate me and I do not care if you disagree with my approach to "message board decorum" or lack thereof. As Groink says, "I am not here to make friends." (Although I have made many friends on here)
That's great, except what happened to the Southern gentleman you claimed to be? >:( You give the rest of us a bad name when you enter weird anti-social modes like this.
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That's great, except what happened to the Southern gentleman you claimed to be? >:( You give the rest of us a bad name when you enter weird anti-social modes like this.
It's not his fault, it's his manic state. Give him a day or two, and he will be back to his jovial self. :D
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Mcdonalds is horrible. I stopped eating it long ago cause it made me feel like crap. Same thing with my brother. My wife says the same thing, makes her stomach hurt.
Mcdonalds is garbage
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Mcdonalds is horrible. I stopped eating it long ago cause it made me feel like crap. Same thing with my brother. My wife says the same thing, makes her stomach hurt.
Mcdonalds is garbage
Why were you eating your brother?
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18 pages of the following:
True Adonis: Blah blah BLAH
Straw Man: Blah Blah Blah
Johnny Falcon: Blah, Heme Iron, Blah
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Good enough for Bill Gates though. He is kind of poor these days, isn`t he?
Just saw a documentary about Warren Buffet. He is shown many times eating commercial ice cream. His daughter later says that her dad lives on hamburger, fries and cokes, lots of cokes, and not the diet kind. She said that to this day, she has never seen him drink water.
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Just saw a documentary about Warren Buffet. He is shown many times eating commercial ice cream. His daughter later says that her dad lives on hamburger, fries and cokes, lots of cokes, and not the diet kind. She said that to this day, she has never seen him drink water.
such bullshit. Buffet is heavily invested in Coke and McDonalds. of course he is going to say that shit.
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such bullshit. Buffet is heavily invested in Coke and McDonalds. of course he is going to say that shit.
Maybe, but he didn't say it. His daughter did. Also, the guy is very old and looks healthy for his age, but he's no Mr. Slim.
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Warren Buffett=All Burgers
(http://duanegraham.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/warren-buffett.jpg)
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(http://sarahavellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/photo-1.jpg)
(http://sarahavellar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/IMG_9637.jpg)
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(http://www.ideagrove.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/01/warrenbuffett-712488.jpg)
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(http://im.rediff.com/money/2010/may/06buffett5.jpg)
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(http://i61.tinypic.com/t6uhvm.jpg)
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I love how happy Warren Buffett looks when he is about to drink a Coke or eat Fast Food, which are his staples. I guess he isn`t as rich as Strawman or Twaddle though. :-\
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-x15r6-7Qk/TdcgJ0NBuwI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NhQpfAvNZvs/s1600/WARREN+BUFFETT.jpg)
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I love how happy Warren Buffett looks when he is about to drink a Coke or eat Fast Food, which are his staples. I guess he isn`t as rich as Strawman or Twaddle though. :-\
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-x15r6-7Qk/TdcgJ0NBuwI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NhQpfAvNZvs/s1600/WARREN+BUFFETT.jpg)
Did you go see that doctor like I asked you to? You appear to still be in your "manic state". :D Remember, I'm only trying to help you. :D
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(http://dealbreaker.com/uploads/2011/01/warrenbuffettdrivethru.jpg)
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Did you go see that doctor like I asked you to? You appear to still be in your "manic state". :D Remember, I'm only trying to help you. :D
I know you are and I appreciate it greatly.
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I love how happy Warren Buffett looks when he is about to drink a Coke or eat Fast Food, which are his staples. I guess he isn`t as rich as Strawman or Twaddle though. :-\
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-x15r6-7Qk/TdcgJ0NBuwI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NhQpfAvNZvs/s1600/WARREN+BUFFETT.jpg)
you dumb stupid fuck. He is promoting these companies as he owns a shitload of their stocks.
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you dumb stupid fuck. He is promoting these companies as he owns a shitload of their stocks.
Go easy on TA, he's not his normal self as of late. :-\
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you dumb stupid fuck. He is promoting these companies as he owns a shitload of their stocks.
Yes, because behind the scenes he totes a cooler of Chicken Breasts and tupperwares of oatmeal. ::)
He doesn`t need to promote anything. He eats what he likes.
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its a shame that adam is reduced to trolling about burgers
he used to invent zero gravity suits
he made up his own fake principles
he managed to troll for 2 years about a dead lift video he never posted
he lived of five year old pics for an age
come on ta you can do better than this
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Baby Shizzo approves of this latest troll job by Adonis. He has El Diablo Blanco near suicide.
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I don`t know what you want from me. The stovetop method is inferior and is shit. There is no benefit to a pre-sear. No taste advantage. You mumbled something about bacteria being killed. Bacteria, even if it is present, (you can eat raw beef like the Swedish Viking) is killed at 122 degrees. No pathogen exists that can do any human any harm once that temperature is reached, therefore your killing bacteria claim is pointless as there would be no bacteria present to be killed because it was already killed in the water bath.
PS. If I want to call you a moron and attack you, I will. I do not have to abide by any rules. I don`t care if you hate me and I do not care if you disagree with my approach to "message board decorum" or lack thereof. As Groink says, "I am not here to make friends." (Although I have made many friends on here)
very simple
I want you to bump the post where you claim you "outlined" it as shit
Let's also review a few quick facts
First, you've never actually used the stovetop method so only a ROYAL douche would act like like such a arrogant know it all when they have ZERO experience with the method (this would be like some HIT trainer insisting that higher volume training is "shit' an "useless" even though they have never done it in their life)
Second, you watched a video (or I presume you did since I offered it to you to view) of a professional chef using the stove top method and it worked perfectly fine thereby proving your uninformed claim to be complete false (i.e. that it's "shit")
Third, the worst thing you can say about the pre-sear is that it that is has no additional benefit in taste and it does no harm (that's actually the conclusion that you yourself posted), hardly a damning condemnation
Fourth, you've conveniently failed to address the other benefits of the pre-sear that were mentioned, one of which is that it lessens the chance of over cooking (again, a video was provided using both method to demonstrate this claim)
Finally, the only reason were even discussing this topic in this thread was due to you truly pathetic need to put other people down as a way to boost your obviously very fragile (I would say truly damaged) self esteem
Now, I'm fine if you want to act like a arrogant, know it all, and obviously pathetically insecure asshole. We are all familiar with that.
I'll keep pointing out all your character flaws (though they are obvious to everyone)
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The stovetop method is shit as outlined previously.
I don`t want to be civil. I like to make personal attacks sometimes. Its amusing to me and I do it frequently. I have always done this. I see no harm in doing so and if you are offended, all the better.
Hope this helps.
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Cooking, serious business! :D
(http://www.foodwinetravel.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Full-team-fighting.jpg)
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very simple
I want you to bump the post where you claim you "outlined" it as shit
Let's also review a few quick facts
First, you've never actually used the stovetop method so only a ROYAL douche would act like like such a arrogant know it all when they have ZERO experience with the method (this would be like some HIT trainer insisting that higher volume training is "shit' an "useless" even though they have never done it in their life)
Second, you watched a video (or I presume you did since I offered it to you to view) of a professional chef using the stove top method and it worked perfectly fine thereby proving your uninformed claim to be complete false (i.e. that it's "shit")
Third, the worst thing you can say about the pre-sear is that it that is has no additional benefit in taste and it does no harm (that's actually the conclusion that you yourself posted), hardly a damning condemnation
Fourth, you've conveniently failed to address the other benefits of the pre-sear that were mentioned, one of which is that it lessens the chance of over cooking (again, a video was provided using both method to demonstrate this claim)
Finally, the only reason were even discussing this topic in this thread was due to you truly pathetic need to put other people down as a way to boost your obviously very fragile (I would say truly damaged) self esteem
Now, I'm fine if you want to act like a arrogant, know it all, and obviously pathetically insecure asshole. We are all familiar with that.
I'll keep pointing out all your character flaws (though they are obvious to everyone)
1. I don`t need to have done it to know that it is inferior. I have read many other people`s experiences with this method (including Krankenstein from this site) to know they had problems with it. I also have the wherewithal and knowledge to KNOW that it is inferior. You don`t have to partake in something to know it sucks. I have never done steroids in my life but that does not mean I do not know they are harmful and better left alone. Sure, I have zero experience with steroids in using them, but isn`t there enough evidence readily available to make a determination that they are dangerous and harmful? You can replace "steroids" with pretty much anything.
This is where you and the Creationists, shitbrain Republicans and general morons converge. You think you have to actively do something firsthand rather than looking and evaluating mountains of evidence before making a determination. In your and their world anything else is invalid. The world must be a very scary place for you if you are unable to make any kind of evaluation with evidence.
2. Sure, the stovetop method could work, but it is shit compared to the Beer Cooler method for reasons I have already outlined. If you are too dumb to scroll through the posts and read them, I am sorry. Your poor comprehension is something that you will have to remedy and deal with. I can show you a video of David Blaine performing magic, does that mean magic is real?
3. A pre-sear is pointless. It will not affect taste, nor will it kill any bacteria like you initially thought it would since bacteria would all be dead at 122 degrees anyway. Furthermore, you can eat raw meat and chances are extremely low that you would get sick. I do not recommend it, but the probability is low.
4. There are no benefits to the pre-sear as overcooking is never a problem with either method pre or post water bath.
5. You are still a moron.
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Cooking, serious business! :D
(http://www.foodwinetravel.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Full-team-fighting.jpg)
Yes. So is Mcdonalds. Do you think Warren Buffett likes onion rings on his burgers?
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Here is Krankenstein`s experience using the shitty inferior stovetop method:
Did this tonight. I unfortunately couldn't keep the temperature constant. So, I ended up with a medium steak. Still, was more juicy than when I have fucked up and made it medium before. I kept it in the water for 1hr. Seared it for 90 seconds per side afterwards (after drying off). The actual machines are about $350 - $400 on Amazon. I am going to look at the little devices that keep the water temp consistent.
All in all...not a bad steak.
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What's the big deal with just putting the hot water in a cooler? ???
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More on Krankenstein`s experience with the Shitty and Inferior stovetop method:
I had a larger stainless steel pot. I have a wireless thermometer. I can set it to go off when it hits a certain temp. So I would have my stove on very low until it hit 140, then let it cool until 128.
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What's the big deal with just putting the hot water in a cooler? ???
Because Strawman is a Sadomasochist and wants to make things more difficult than they have to be. Either that, or he is just ignorant. Or both. :D
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1. I don`t need to have done it to know that it is inferior. I have read many other people`s experiences with this method (including Krankenstein from this site) to know they had problems with it. I also have the wherewithal and knowledge to KNOW that it is inferior. You don`t have to partake in something to know it sucks. I have never done steroids in my life but that does not mean I do not know they are harmful and better left alone. Sure, I have zero experience with steroids in using them, but isn`t there enough evidence readily available to make a determination that they are dangerous and harmful? You can replace "steroids" with pretty much anything.
This is where you and the Creationists, shitbrain Republicans and general morons converge. You think you have to actively do something firsthand rather than looking and evaluating mountains of evidence before making a determination. In your and their world anything else is invalid. The world must be a very scary place for you if you are unable to make any kind of evaluation with evidence.
2. Sure, the stovetop method could work, but it is shit compared to the Beer Cooler method for reasons I have already outlined. If you are too dumb to scroll through the posts and read them, I am sorry. Your poor comprehension is something that you will have to remedy and deal with. I can show you a video of David Blaine performing magic, does that mean magic is real?
3. A pre-sear is pointless. It will not affect taste, nor will it kill any bacteria like you initially thought it would since bacteria would all be dead at 122 degrees anyway. Furthermore, you can eat raw meat and chances are extremely low that you would get sick. I do not recommend it, but the probability is low.
4. There are no benefits to the pre-sear as overcooking is never a problem with either method pre or post water bath.
5. You are still a moron.
yet again you failed to address the other benefit of the pre-sear that it prevents over cooking in the end (again video example was given)
this is typical of what you have done in this thread and elsewhere, namely just conveniently ignoring anything that you can't refute
same way you completely ignore all the disadvantages of your beloved cooler method (the one you have claimed to use hundreds of times though for some reason never made a thread about it)
You sound like a Mike Mentzer devotee insisting that you can't do more then 2 sets per bodypart or you will over train and then calling everyone stupid who doesn't agree with you
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yet again you failed to address the other benefit of the pre-sear that it prevents over cooking in the end (again video example was given)
this is typical of what you have done in this thread and elsewhere, namely just conveniently ignoring anything that you can't refute
same way you completely ignore all the disadvantages of your beloved cooler method (the one you have claimed to use hundreds of times though for some reason never made a thread about it)
You sound like a Mike Mentzer devotee insisting that you can't do more then 2 sets per bodypart or you will over train and then calling everyone stupid who doesn't agree with you
???
Never made a thread about it? You have a member here, Roger Bacon, who has been using this method when I posted it a year, two or three ago (I have been doing it since 2010). Do you not believe him? ???
Again, there is no benefit. What happened to your "bacteria" claim by the way? ???
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Hey einstein, your body simply wasnt used to have to digest a large amount of fat in a single meal anymore due to your diet
It would've had the same reaction with any other high fat meal. Hope this help
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More on Krankenstein`s experience with the Shitty and Inferior stovetop method:
this is your PROOF to support your arrogant claims of superiority
this one person who couldn't do it right the first time he tried it ?
This is the basis of your arrogance, calling it "shit" ?
did you even notice that he said "all in all not a bad steak"
maybe next time he should try the pre-sear and figure out how to keep the temp at 130 BEFORE putting in the steak (as I did)
He started too high to begin with
I posted a video of an actual chef doing it quite successfully and effortlessly kept the temp right around 130
WTF man - is that all you have
You are more stupid that I even imagined
Just for you I will post the video again so you and Krakenstein can see how easy it really is
Please note - watching this video will not cure you of your profound self esteem issues
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Never made a thread about it? You have a member here, Roger Bacon, who has been using this method when I posted it a year, two or three ago (I have been doing it since 2010). Do you not believe him? ???
Again, there is no benefit. What happened to your "bacteria" claim by the way? ???
I asked you to bump one of the threads so I could look read it
the bacteria claim was not "my claim" and it was only 1 of 4 or 5 benefits of the pre-sear
you can read them all again here and then you can address each one (I've already mentioned them multiple times so I'm not going to repeat them
http://www.chefsteps.com/activities/presearing-for-sous-vide
Now before you read the link I want you to put on your thinking cap
Will a pre-sear ensure that surface bacteria are killed
The only answer to that question is YES unless you believe that searing at a very high temperature won't kill bacteria but a 122 water bath will
It may not be necessary but it will in fact kill surface bacteria
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Thread is proving to be one of the better ones early on in the year, has potential.
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What's the big deal with just putting the hot water in a cooler? ???
why should I spend money on a cooler when I have a perfectly efficient method that requires me to spend no money
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why should I spend money on a cooler when I have a perfectly efficient method that requires me to spend no money
I can't really see why your way wouldn't work? I would think any modern stove would deliver a perfectly uniform amount or heat? Unless it cycles or something?
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I can't really see why your way wouldn't work? I would think any modern stove would deliver a perfectly uniform amount or heat? Unless it cycles or something?
just as a point of clarification, it's not "my way"
the only reason we're having this discussion is due to TA's profound self esteem issues
I don't give a shit how anyone wants to cook their steak or anything else for that matter
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just as a point of clarification, it's not "my way"
the only reason we're having this discussion is due to TA's profound self esteem issues
I don't give a shit how anyone wants to cook their steak or anything else for that matter
It takes two to tango...
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Strawman melting like the bitch he is.
Oh whats this I found? Another member thanking me for the Beer Cooler method:
Today, The True Adonis Showed Me His Meat.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=432173.0
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I can't really see why your way wouldn't work? I would think any modern stove would deliver a perfectly uniform amount or heat? Unless it cycles or something?
Too many variables for failure. For instance, the type of pot used, the gauge of thickness of the stainless if using stainless will matter and will vary in how it retains heat. The stove is another matter altogether. Some, even on a low setting, may be way too high of a starting point to keep a constant temperature of where you want your meat to be. Then you also have quantity of water to deal with in relation to pot size. Putting a steak in a smaller pot will cause enough temperature variability which would force an adjustment in temperature as it would cool the water, moreso if the pot is not of significant size.
A beer cooler eliminates all of the above.
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the worst steak I ever had still tasted pretty good.
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It takes two to tango...
He has no clue what he is doing. Earlier in this thread, he tried to claim that people who think homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion. I tried to tell him that people who use the bible as justification, see the bible as fact. He shut up about it, but I think its hilarious that he tried to use that as an example. (of what, I do not rightly know)
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(of what, I do not rightly know)
literal LOL
He's not stalking 333386 anymore, looks like he found a new target... ;D
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Strawman melting like the bitch he is.
Oh whats this I found? Another member thanking me for the Beer Cooler method:
Today, The True Adonis Showed Me His Meat.
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=432173.0
I was proud of the title 8)
Adonis' method did work well, not so say others couldn't work either though.
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I don't understand why there can't be several acceptable methods to boil a steak? ???
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This machine is on sale for $199 with the correct discount code.
I command 10 getbiggers to purchase, and for 5 to sear, 5 to not, and report the data back to me.
I have already gotten 3 responses, so hurry if you want in.
http://www.sousvidesupreme.com/Shop_Online/Water_Ovens/SousVide_Supreme_Demi-Black/Product.aspx?ProductID=31&DeptID=34&&
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I love how happy Warren Buffett looks when he is about to drink a Coke or eat Fast Food, which are his staples. I guess he isn`t as rich as Strawman or Twaddle though. :-\
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-x15r6-7Qk/TdcgJ0NBuwI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NhQpfAvNZvs/s1600/WARREN+BUFFETT.jpg)
Buffett owns a lot of Coke man. I think this might be him glamourizing it?
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Buffett owns a lot of Coke man. I think this might be him glamourizing it?
maybe he believe coca-cola still put cocaine in their drinks, hence the happy placebo reactions
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Buffett owns a lot of Coke man. I think this might be him glamourizing it?
ya think? That's how he became mega rich. he dumped his small fortune in Coke in the early days and turned it into a boatload of cash. he is also a massive shareholder of mcdonalds.
here's a bit of news. before the whole housing boom that caused the market crash he bought heavily in real estate companies right before and those were his blue chip stocks for 5 years. Do you think the rich didn't know about the big scam about to happen?
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Assburgers.
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ya think? That's how he became mega rich. he dumped his small fortune in Coke in the early days and turned it into a boatload of cash. he is also a massive shareholder of mcdonalds.
here's a bit of news. before the whole housing boom that caused the market crash he bought heavily in real estate companies right before and those were his blue chip stocks for 5 years. Do you think the rich didn't know about the big scam about to happen?
Not to derail this thread.... but is this true? You sure about that?
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Let us all follow Momofuku Ando, the creator of instant ramen. Died at 96. His secret?
Ando claimed that the secret of his long life was playing golf and eating Chikin Ramen (Chicken Ramen) almost every day. He was said to have eaten instant ramen until the day before he died
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Not to derail this thread.... but is this true? You sure about that?
I'm very sure. he puts out a yearly newsletter and lists his blue chips. In early 2000 1 year before the morgage boom he purchased progressive reality of southern california which ironically was the starting point of the whole housing boom across the country. it was his blue chip year after year. Berkshire is known for buying undervalued companies and turning them around, why was this realty undervalued unless they knew the boom was coming? They have rebranded this now as Berkshire realty. I try to tell people that Buffett is a fucking scum. You don't think him and his billionaire banker friends didn't orchestrate the whole thing, they saw a ripe opportunity with housing and fucked over this country.
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I don't understand why there can't be several acceptable methods to boil a steak? ???
Its not boiling.
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Buffett owns a lot of Coke man. I think this might be him glamourizing it?
I think he genuinely likes it, drinks it and does not bother with water.
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I think he genuinely likes it, drinks it and does not bother with water.
call me!
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I'm very sure. he puts out a yearly newsletter and lists his blue chips. In early 2000 1 year before the morgage boom he purchased progressive reality of southern california which ironically was the starting point of the whole housing boom across the country. it was his blue chip year after year. Berkshire is known for buying undervalued companies and turning them around, why was this realty undervalued unless they knew the boom was coming? They have rebranded this now as Berkshire realty. I try to tell people that Buffett is a fucking scum. You don't think him and his billionaire banker friends didn't orchestrate the whole thing, they saw a ripe opportunity with housing and fucked over this country.
Buffett hasn`t bought into Mcdonalds since the 90s moron.
http://beta.fool.com/shmulikarpf/2013/03/21/why-hasnt-buffett-bought-mcdonalds-yet/27513/
Yet, Mr. Buffett hasn't bought a single share of McDonald's over the years.
Why Not?
It's a mystery indeed. Yet, I'll try and provide two quick suggestions as to why the Oracle of Omaha left McDonald's untouched.
The company operates in a franchise business model. More than 90% of the company's stores are externally managed by franchisees and not directly by the company. Buffett has never invested in a company with such a massive franchise model. Management, as capable as it may be, will never have full control over all of different stores and franchisees.
McDonald's doesn't really have a strong economic moat, which is a must for any of Buffett's investments. Think about it for a second. Unlike American Express, nothing of McDonald's is proprietary or patent-protected. Unlike Coca Cola, McDonald's doesn't have a secret hidden recipe in a safe. It makes very tasty, cheap burgers, but other rivals know how to make cheap and tasty burgers as well. Put simply, McDonald's has a great brand, but not such a great economic moat.
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Buffett hasn`t bought into Mcdonalds since the 90s moron.
http://beta.fool.com/shmulikarpf/2013/03/21/why-hasnt-buffett-bought-mcdonalds-yet/27513/
Yet, Mr. Buffett hasn't bought a single share of McDonald's over the years.
Why Not?
It's a mystery indeed. Yet, I'll try and provide two quick suggestions as to why the Oracle of Omaha left McDonald's untouched.
The company operates in a franchise business model. More than 90% of the company's stores are externally managed by franchisees and not directly by the company. Buffett has never invested in a company with such a massive franchise model. Management, as capable as it may be, will never have full control over all of different stores and franchisees.
McDonald's doesn't really have a strong economic moat, which is a must for any of Buffett's investments. Think about it for a second. Unlike American Express, nothing of McDonald's is proprietary or patent-protected. Unlike Coca Cola, McDonald's doesn't have a secret hidden recipe in a safe. It makes very tasty, cheap burgers, but other rivals know how to make cheap and tasty burgers as well. Put simply, McDonald's has a great brand, but not such a great economic moat.
Yeah, one might indeed ponder this issue. Mcdonald's stock was roughly untouched by the recession.
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Buffett hasn`t bought into Mcdonalds since the 90s moron.
http://beta.fool.com/shmulikarpf/2013/03/21/why-hasnt-buffett-bought-mcdonalds-yet/27513/
Yet, Mr. Buffett hasn't bought a single share of McDonald's over the years.
Why Not?
It's a mystery indeed. Yet, I'll try and provide two quick suggestions as to why the Oracle of Omaha left McDonald's untouched.
The company operates in a franchise business model. More than 90% of the company's stores are externally managed by franchisees and not directly by the company. Buffett has never invested in a company with such a massive franchise model. Management, as capable as it may be, will never have full control over all of different stores and franchisees.
McDonald's doesn't really have a strong economic moat, which is a must for any of Buffett's investments. Think about it for a second. Unlike American Express, nothing of McDonald's is proprietary or patent-protected. Unlike Coca Cola, McDonald's doesn't have a secret hidden recipe in a safe. It makes very tasty, cheap burgers, but other rivals know how to make cheap and tasty burgers as well. Put simply, McDonald's has a great brand, but not such a great economic moat.
Of course he hasn't. He bought into coke and mcdonalds decades ago. You don't buy into a stock when it is popular and become rich, you buy into a stock when it's low and hold long term. You need to learn a lot of investing.
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Of course he hasn't. He bought into coke and mcdonalds decades ago. You don't buy into a stock when it is popular and become rich, you buy into a stock when it's low and hold long term. You need to learn a lot of investing.
I can`t find any record of him owning anything Mcdonalds since the 90s, and he sold all his shares then. Can you help?
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Another fun fact.
Warren Buffett keeps that gold Mcdonalds card in his wallet which lets him eat free for the rest of his life there in Omaha. As a result, every Christmas dinner each year is spent at Mcdonalds.
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Love this guy!
(http://theoriginalhamburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cookies-and-cream-shake_083112.jpg)
Warren: Well, I think President Clinton wanted one very badly, but I don't think he has one. I think he has to go to McDonald's with me.
Here is one from Johnny Rockets, which I like very much. I like the milkshakes there and I like the music there and this lets me take, ah, three guests with me, actually, so, ah, play up to me and maybe someday you'll get to go to Johnny Rockets with me.
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He has no clue what he is doing. Earlier in this thread, he tried to claim that people who think homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion. I tried to tell him that people who use the bible as justification, see the bible as fact. He shut up about it, but I think its hilarious that he tried to use that as an example. (of what, I do not rightly know)
I tried to explain to you that simply because they use the bible to justify their opinion doesn't miraculously turn their opinion into a fact
Its not an opinion.
People who believe in the bible and use it as justification for their beliefs see it as FACT (albeit wrong). A religious person does not think their bible is a book of opinions.
How do you not know this?
still an opinion
just because it's based on the bible doesn't miraculously turn it into a fact
wtf man
this is just stupid
I don't recall seeing your next post but I don't sit in front of the computer all the time so here is the post you made (in which all you did was repeat the same stupid shit)
Again,
The people who base their lives around the bible and use it to influence their beliefs see it as a fact. You claim its an opinion. Its not an opinion to them, its the end all. You really think that Religious people think the bible is just an opinion? ???
They use the bible, what they perceive as facts-the word of god- to justify why they think homosexuality is a sin. Its not their opinion. Now they may hold a negative opinion about gays, but when they use the bible to justify it, they think they are using fact.
this is such an utterly stupid conversation but maybe you'll be able to understand it this way
just because someone "sees something as a fact" doesn't actually make it a fact
I assume this is one of your "trolls" that everyone talks about because if not then it means you truly don't understand the difference between and opinion and a fact
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I tried to explain to you that simply because they use the bible to justify their opinion doesn't miraculously turn their opinion into a fact
I don't recall seeing your next post but I don't sit in front of the computer all the time so here is the post you made (in which all you did was repeat the same stupid shit)
this is such an utterly stupid conversation but maybe you'll be able to understand it this way
just because someone "sees something as a fact" doesn't actually make it a fact
I assume this is one of your "trolls" that everyone talks about because if not then it means you truly don't understand the difference between and opinion and a fact
You are a moron.
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You are a moron.
I'll do you one better
You are a moron and I used the bible to justify that belief so.......ABRACADABRA.... .that belief has just turned into a fact
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I'll do you one better
You are a moron and I used the bible to justify that belief so.......ABRACADABRA.... .that belief has just turned into a fact
Ok Demetrius, whatever you say.
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Ok Demetrius, whatever you say.
I'm just applyng what you wrote
If I used the bible to justify my belief I can "see it" as a fact and now it magically becomes a fact and no longer just a belief or opinion
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I'm just applyng what you wrote
If I used the bible to justify my belief I can "see it" as a fact and now it magically becomes a fact and no longer just a belief or opinion
Precisely why religious people are morons. They believe fiction as fact.
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(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-B-x15r6-7Qk/TdcgJ0NBuwI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NhQpfAvNZvs/s1600/WARREN+BUFFETT.jpg)i hope you realize when you look this old you arent doing much at all at life, your health would be weak, you would fatigue going to the mailbox
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Precisely why religious people are morons. They believe fiction as fact.
sounds like you're finally understanding that their beliefs are still just opinions regardless of whether it based on the bible or not
have we finally come to some common ground?
He has no clue what he is doing. Earlier in this thread, he tried to claim that people who think homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion. I tried to tell him that people who use the bible as justification, see the bible as fact. He shut up about it, but I think its hilarious that he tried to use that as an example. (of what, I do not rightly know)
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sounds like you're finally understanding that their beliefs are still just opinions regardless of whether it based on the bible or not
have we finally come to some common ground?
They don`t think its an opinion though. The best you and I can do is educate them and make them realize the bible is fiction and that it is indeed a crappy opinion to have. Otherwise, they will continue to believe it as fact.
(http://static5.quoteswave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/I-like-that-about-the.jpg)
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They don`t think its an opinion though. The best you and I can do is educate them and make them realize the bible is fiction and that it is indeed a crappy opinion to have. Otherwise, they will continue to believe it as fact.
(http://static5.quoteswave.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/I-like-that-about-the.jpg)
I assume that you're saying that you now agree with me that their beliefs are still just opinions and that, for example, a christians belief that homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion
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I assume that you're saying that you now agree with me that their beliefs are still just opinions and that, for example, a christians belief that homosexuality is a sin is just an opinion
To them, its not an opinion. They actually believe that shit.
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I assume this is one of your "trolls" that everyone talks about because if not then it means you truly don't understand the difference between and opinion and a fact
Please, enlighten us. What's the difference?
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Would McDonalds double quarter pounders or their premium angus burgers still taste as good if McD's reduced the sodium content?
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What's the difference in their Angus patties and regular hamburger patties?
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What's the difference in their Angus patties and regular hamburger patties?
angus patties 1/3 lb?
It's been a while...
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angus patties 1/3 lb?
It's been a while...
Same here
They're bigger but are they higher quality beef?
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Same here
They're bigger but are they higher quality beef?
Same grinded down cheapest ground beef. I only went for angus burgers when I wanted bacon.
I really can't understand adonis though. Of all the fast food places, McDs food is the only fast food I never put in my fridge for later. I'll save Burger King stackers and fries for later but not McDonalds. Even after the microwave Mcburgers just don't taste the same versus fresh. IMO, the burgers, fries or nuggets taste really bad. Very bland and salty.
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Same grinded down cheapest ground beef. I only went for angus burgers when I wanted bacon.
I really can't understand adonis though. Of all the fast food places, McDs food is the only fast food I never put in my fridge for later. I'll save Burger King stackers and fries for later but not McDonalds. Even after the microwave Mcburgers just don't taste the same versus fresh. IMO, the burgers, fries or nuggets taste really bad. Very bland and salty.
Yes, I know what you mean.
Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
Michelle Schoffro Cook September 20, 2013
There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products. According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says. As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.
Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.
Here are the burger ingredients:
Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef. The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing. It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.
Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).” Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.
Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity. “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods. Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing. Here’s an example of this practice. And another.
Discover the possible ingredient that causes seizures and fibroymalgia pain…
Mustard—”vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, spices.” Again, we have no way of knowing whether “spices” contain MSG, which is a well-established excitotoxin (contrary to what some comments on my other articles have indicated). Excitotoxins are just what they sound like: toxic chemicals that literally excite brain and nervous system cells until they die off. Here are a couple examples for the skeptics: A study in the journal Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology found that MSG significantly increased fibromyalgia pain. Scientists concluded “dietary glutamate may be contributing to FM (fibromyalgia) symptoms in some patients.” Another study in the journal Brain Research found that giving MSG to animals caused them to have seizures.
Pickle Slices—include “cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).” Some of these ingredients are fairly obvious. Potassium sorbate has been shown in human studies to be both genotoxic and mutagenic. That means it damages the genetic material and can cause mutations linked to disease. Polysorbate 80 is a suspected carcinogen. Turmeric is a spice.
Regular Bun—”enriched wheat flour, water, sugar and/or glucose-fructose, yeast, vegetable oil (soybean and/or canola), salt, calcium sulphate, calcium propionate, monoglycerides, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, and may contain any or all of the following in varying proportions: diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides, BHT, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, wheat starch, calcium peroxide, wheat gluten, inactive yeast, sorbitol, dextrin, malted barley flour, ascorbic acid, citric acid, calcium stearate, calcium iodate, silicon dioxide.” Whew! Considering that bread can be made with flour and water (not even yeast is essential since true sourdoughs don’t need it), that’s a disturbing number of ingredients–28 possible ingredients just in the bun!
More about the bun ingredients:
BHT—a known neurotoxin (substance that is toxic to the brain and nervous system), a hormone disruptor, immune system toxin, and irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs.
Diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides (DATEM)—This is a synthetically-created “stabilizing ingredient” that is usually made from vegetable oils but can also contain animal fat like pork.
Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate—not much is really known about the safety of this ingredient. Since it can be sourced from dairy products, there is a potential risk of allergy for those with dairy allergies.
Most of the other ingredients are widely-used in food processing even though there is little research on their long-term and cumulative effects.
The more I research MickeyD’s food, the more I’m definitely NOT lovin’ it! What about you? Are you lovin’ it?
Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/disgusting-ingredients-in-mcdonalds-burgers.html#ixzz2sche7wzO
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Yes, I know what you mean.
Disgusting Ingredients in McDonald’s Burgers
Michelle Schoffro Cook September 20, 2013
There’s been a tremendous amount of controversy over McDonald’s burgers since celebrity chef Jamie Oliver demonstrated how meat scraps and sinew are spun in a centrifuge and “washed” with ammonium hydroxide, which has also become known as ”Pink Slime.“ This chemical is used in fertilizers and cleaning products. According to Oliver it is used in 70 percent of ground beef in the United States but does not require inclusion on ingredient lists because the US Department of Agriculture classifies it as a “process” not an “ingredient” even though residues of this process are left behind in the meat consumed. He says, ”Basically, we‘re taking a product that would be sold in the cheapest way for dogs, and after this process, is being given to human beings.”
Recently, McDonald’s announced that “we made a decision to discontinue the use of ammonia-treated beef in our hamburgers.” But, there is no way to know if it is still in use at McDonald’s, other than to trust McDonald’s to do what it says. As an aside, McDonald’s reportedly never used pink slime-treated beef in the UK and Ireland, but was comfortable including it in North American burgers.
Before you decide whether you want to trust McDonald’s let’s take a look at ingredients in their burgers (according to the company’s own website) along with some information I’d like to share about these ingredients.
Here are the burger ingredients:
Beef Patty—according to the corporation, it is using 100 percent pure beef. The moniker “100% pure” actually means nothing. It may or not be pure. We really don’t know for sure whether McDonald’s is using Pink Slime in its processes and whether its beef is among the 70 percent of ground beef in North America that contains Pink Slime.
Grill Seasoning contains “salt, spice (pepper), sunflower oil (‘as a processing aid’).” Most sunflower oil used in commercial processes has been heated to extreme temperatures prior to use. This process denatures the oil, causing it to become inflammatory when consumed.
Ketchup—contains “tomato paste (made from fresh ripe tomatoes), liquid sugar, white vinegar, salt, onion powder, and spices.” Liquid sugar is usually high fructose corn syrup which is almost always from genetically-modified corn and has been linked to obesity. “Spices” can actually mean any number of ingredients, including herbs, but it can also include monosodium glutamate (MSG), which is commonly found in most fast, processed, and even restaurant foods. Monosodium glutamate is frequently used in laboratories to create obese animals for testing. Here’s an example of this practice. And another.
Discover the possible ingredient that causes seizures and fibroymalgia pain…
Mustard—”vinegar, water, mustard seed, salt, turmeric, spices.” Again, we have no way of knowing whether “spices” contain MSG, which is a well-established excitotoxin (contrary to what some comments on my other articles have indicated). Excitotoxins are just what they sound like: toxic chemicals that literally excite brain and nervous system cells until they die off. Here are a couple examples for the skeptics: A study in the journal Clinical and Experimental Rheumatology found that MSG significantly increased fibromyalgia pain. Scientists concluded “dietary glutamate may be contributing to FM (fibromyalgia) symptoms in some patients.” Another study in the journal Brain Research found that giving MSG to animals caused them to have seizures.
Pickle Slices—include “cucumbers, water, distilled vinegar, salt, calcium chloride, potassium sorbate, potassium aluminum sulphate, natural flavors (plant source), polysorbate 80, extractives of turmeric (color).” Some of these ingredients are fairly obvious. Potassium sorbate has been shown in human studies to be both genotoxic and mutagenic. That means it damages the genetic material and can cause mutations linked to disease. Polysorbate 80 is a suspected carcinogen. Turmeric is a spice.
Regular Bun—”enriched wheat flour, water, sugar and/or glucose-fructose, yeast, vegetable oil (soybean and/or canola), salt, calcium sulphate, calcium propionate, monoglycerides, enzymes, azodicarbonamide, and may contain any or all of the following in varying proportions: diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides, BHT, sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate, wheat starch, calcium peroxide, wheat gluten, inactive yeast, sorbitol, dextrin, malted barley flour, ascorbic acid, citric acid, calcium stearate, calcium iodate, silicon dioxide.” Whew! Considering that bread can be made with flour and water (not even yeast is essential since true sourdoughs don’t need it), that’s a disturbing number of ingredients–28 possible ingredients just in the bun!
More about the bun ingredients:
BHT—a known neurotoxin (substance that is toxic to the brain and nervous system), a hormone disruptor, immune system toxin, and irritant to the skin, eyes, and lungs.
Diacetyl tartaric acid esters of mono and diglycerides (DATEM)—This is a synthetically-created “stabilizing ingredient” that is usually made from vegetable oils but can also contain animal fat like pork.
Sodium stearoyl-2-lactylate—not much is really known about the safety of this ingredient. Since it can be sourced from dairy products, there is a potential risk of allergy for those with dairy allergies.
Most of the other ingredients are widely-used in food processing even though there is little research on their long-term and cumulative effects.
The more I research MickeyD’s food, the more I’m definitely NOT lovin’ it! What about you? Are you lovin’ it?
Read more: http://www.care2.com/greenliving/disgusting-ingredients-in-mcdonalds-burgers.html#ixzz2sche7wzO
Bullshit article.
You don`t like Hunt`s Ketchup which is their supplier?
You don`t like French`s Mustard which is their supplier?
The bun is a higher quality Merita, better than the average supermarket buns you can buy in any grocery store with similar ingredients.
The beef is of high quality.
The pickle slices are standard fare, same pickles you will buy anywhere.
You are smarter than this Roger Bacon. I know you are!
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THE HORROR, PICKLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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RUN FOR THE HILLS! ITS THE EVIL POISON HUNT`S KETCHUP
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Quick put on your gas mask, its a Grocery store Hamburger Bun label, the kind that most people use for their burgers!
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You are smarter than this Roger Bacon. I know you are!
Thanks TA! It was just an article that came up when I searched "What's in a McDonald's Hamburger.
I'm not a big fan of the chemicals like BHT (if that article is accurate), but I am surprised to see that they're basically homemade hamburgers as far as ingredients go.
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Quick put on your gas mask, its a Grocery store Hamburger Bun label, the kind that most people use for their burgers!
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How does shake shack or five guys make there bun?
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How does shake shack or five guys make there bun?
Shake Shack uses my absolute favorite bun in the world! You can get them in some supermarkets.
Martin`s Potato Rolls
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Please, enlighten us. What's the difference?
you really don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact ?
were you home schooled with TA ?
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I can`t find any record of him owning anything Mcdonalds since the 90s, and he sold all his shares then. Can you help?
Here's his holding today;
Coca-Cola (KO)
Holding Value: $16.26 billion
Shares: 400,000,000
Stake in company: 9.1 percent
Here's when he bought into McDonalds in the 90's:
Buffett Doubles Stake in McDonald's
SECURITIES | NATION/WORLD
December 06, 1996|Times Staff and Wire Reports
Billionaire investor Warren Buffett disclosed that Berkshire Hathaway Inc., a holding company he controls, doubled its investment in McDonald's Corp. last year. In a year-old filing with the SEC just released, Berkshire disclosed that it held 9.34 million McDonald's shares worth $357.3 million at the end of September 1995. Those holdings are twice the 4.7 million McDonald's shares, valued at $181.9 million, that Berkshire reported holding at the end of June last year. McDonald's stock rose $1.75, after news of the filing was released, to close at $48.13 on NYSE.
Buffett, Who Deems Stocks High, Will Still Keep McDonald's
By FLOYD NORRIS
Published: March 17, 1997
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Warren E. Buffett, the chairman of Berkshire Hathaway and a man whose investment prowess has made him the second-richest man in America, says he thinks that most stocks are overvalued. But he excludes the shares of his own company, and its newly released annual report shows that he has been loading up on shares of the McDonald's Corporation.
At the end of last year, Berkshire Hathaway owned 30.2 million shares of McDonald's, which it purchased at an average cost of $41.96 a share. That gave Berkshire Hathaway a 4.3 percent stake in the fast-food chain. So far, the investment has been profitable, but hardly a barn-burner. The shares closed on Friday at $44.125.
The annual report discloses the McDonald's ownership, which is up sharply from the last reported Berkshire holding in the stock, of 9.34 million shares, at the end of September 1995. But it did not comment on the additional holdings or the reasons for them.
Mr. Buffett, in his letter to shareholders, was much more talkative about the broad stock market. ''You can, of course, pay too much for even the best of businesses,'' he wrote. ''The overpayment risk surfaces periodically and, in our opinion, may now be quite high for the purchasers of nearly all stocks.''
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And then what happened? ???
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you really don't know the difference between an opinion and a fact ?
were you home schooled with TA ?
come on, just answer the question. it's obvious, right? so out with it.