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Getbig Main Boards => Gossip & Opinions => Topic started by: FitnessFrenzy on April 07, 2014, 11:16:50 AM
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Did Yates really come out with this? Fucking hell. Mind you, I'm sure he was supposed to be a Neo nazi in his youth...
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the page is dead.
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I do question the estimates thrown about over the years in the press....very up and down...just saying.
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Goodrum coming with those hard hitting stories, rumor has it that he might have to clear off mantle space for one of these -
(http://www.newsherald.com/polopoly_fs/1.18699.1348797172!/fileImage/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_445/the-news-herald-won-this-pulitzer-prize-in-1962-for-exposing-corruption.jpg).
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Holy shit. He really did say this.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161177183
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fag hat yates was a neo nazi in his youth. This disgusts me. Also the current holocaust denial. >:(
he should be stripped of all his sandows.
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:D ;D
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Pretty weird coming from his mouth considering he always bases his opinions and ideas on facts. Though, didn't he used to be in a neo nazi group as a teen?
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Pretty weird coming from his mouth considering he always bases his opinions and ideas on facts. Though, didn't he used to be in a neo nazi group as a teen?
Hes been into all kinds of conspiracy theories of late, needs to lay off the drugs.
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I stumbled on the video he mentioned as I'm a bit obsessive history wise. It had some interesting parts let's just put it thay way...like video footage of staff at one of the Concentration camps admitting to a Jewish skeptic that the gas inlets in the ceilings were put in POST war...the Jewish skeptic disappeared not long after compiling his investigation.
Just to add I'm totally neutral on the subject...I just want the facts.
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I stumbled on the video he mentioned as I'm a bit obsessive history wise. It had some interesting parts let's just put it thay way...like video footage of staff at one of the Concentration camps admitting to a Jewish skeptic that the gas inlets in the ceilings were put in POST war...the Jewish skeptic disappeared not long after compiling his investigation.
Just to add I'm totally neutral on the subject...I just want the facts.
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A true bodybuilder is a controversial one.
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Yates has been spouting bullshit and conspiracy theories for the last few years... He has finally lost his mind.
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The Dude still abides man...like I said, I have no agenda...I'll humour most things...doesn't mean I agree
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Holy shit. He really did say this.
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=161177183
Bad enough, but then you read some of the other posts and realize he's not so unique in his idiocy.
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https://www.facebook.com/dorian.yates1?fref=ts
Train wreck. Fuggin delusional.
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From his facebook page - April 4th, looks like Vic is banging the gear back into him...
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Hmm. 6 million or 6 Sandows?
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I will say that throughout history most numbers of death in wars and crimes against humanity have being inflated as time goes by.
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From his facebook page - April 4th, looks like Vic is banging the gear back into him...
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1000649_717187228333551_1792259903_n.jpg)
Dam nice arms on vic made me forget about the chick in the middle.
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I do question the estimates thrown about over the years in the press....very up and down...just saying.
Why would you question when anyone can see all the records for themselves?
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Why would you question when anyone can see all the records for themselves?
Many records have being inflated but it does not matter if it was 1 or 6 million still does that change the fact that it was a horrible crime.
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Oh geez - David Icke reptilian CT is back I see.
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Many records have being inflated but it does not matter if it was 1 or 6 million still does that change the fact that it was a horrible crime.
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Yeah, because the Nazi`s had nothing better to do than to add names to inflate the death toll. I bet you probably think it was all staged with mannequins and that people were paid to say their families were taken away.
Getbig is chock full of morons.
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This trailer dwelling wannabe snake oil salesman is really something...
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all you people need to calm down
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6 million exactly ???
+ or - 10 ? 20 100? 1,000? 1, 000, 000 ???
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Why would you question when anyone can see all the records for themselves?
My Great Grandfather had half his arm shot off and bled out on the battlefield iin The Battle of The Somme...the loss of any life as a pawn is fucking heart breaking..the numbers mean nothing in the grand scheme of things...War is horrific...I am just interested is all...nothing sinister.
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Originally Posted by lancs_hotpot
He also believes the goverment puts flouride in water to calcify your peneal gland so that youre outlook is limited and you cant access the spirit realm with your third eye (peneal gland).
lmao
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He would never have dreamed of saying this shit when Joe was alive. This is career suicide. It will kill sales of his supps. He should claim he was hacked and it's not him. Doz = idiot.
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
He'll give a shit when it hits him in the wallet.
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
Just a wild stab but, relatives of the dead maybe?
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How long until an official "I was hacked" statement is posted and the entire thing removed from fb?
Two faced girl who spouts out his real thoughts when he hits the bong. He should lay off the bong and the meat flute.
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Maybe Dorian is just having a gas.
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Just a wild stab but, relatives of the dead maybe?
but that was like 100 years ago
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but that was like 100 years ago
'like' a hundred years or actually a hundred years?
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How long until an official "I was hacked" statement is posted and the entire thing removed from fb?
Two faced girl who spouts out his real thoughts when he hits the bong. He should lay off the bong and the meat flute.
He's been posting absurd conspiracy shit for a while, even talks about it in some interviews. No one would buy the hacking excuse at this point.
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He would never have dreamed of saying this shit when Joe was alive. This is career suicide. It will kill sales of his supps. He should claim he was hacked and it's not him. Doz = idiot.
his supps sold shit regardless... his preworkout was crazy tho
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but that was like 100 years ago
I speak to old folks who will tell you VIVID stories...that's in their lifetime...still deeply affected by it all...losing their best friends as teenagers...it was VERY recent in terms of time
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He's been posting absurd conspiracy shit for a while, even talks about it in some interviews. No one would buy the hacking excuse at this point.
Seems like some idiots stay that way, no matter how much they want to PC sugar coat it. Once a nazi, always a nazi. I don't buy that he all of a sudden changed his political view, he may have removed his nazi tatoo, but he sure haven't removed his ideas. As stated previously, he probably kept his ideas under the lid during competition and during the lifetime of the schmoe Weiders. After all, the schmoe brothers were the judge and jury when it came to which bodybuilder would "make" it in the industry.
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God forbid someone should have an opinion contrary to the prevailing orthodoxy. I'm going to order some of his useless supplements as a show of support.
BTW, I'm sure this thread will be deleted because this is one of those topics that cannot be debated under any circumstances.
Only morons have or hold opinions without facts or evidence. Hope this helps.
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Someone tried to deny the death count during the Holocaust by claiming that many jews died of disease and werent executed by the nazis directly. My response was that the jews werent in camps willingly.
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Seems like some idiots stay that way, no matter how much they want to PC sugar coat it. Once a nazi, always a nazi. I don't buy that he all of a sudden changed his political view, he may have removed his nazi tatoo, but he sure haven't removed his ideas. As stated previously, he probably kept his ideas under the lid during competition and during the lifetime of the schmoe Weiders. After all, the schmoe brothers were the judge and jury when it came to which bodybuilder would "make" it in the industry.
Perhaps you're onto something, but his ridiculous revisionism isn't limited to the Holocaust. He's gone full retard on everything, it seems.
And I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the recreationals.
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If you're so smart, tell us when the term "Holocaust" was first used?
Around the 17th century.
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
Next time you see an arm tattoo, let him/her know this.
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Perhaps you're onto something, but his ridiculous revisionism isn't limited to the Holocaust. He's gone full retard on everything, it seems.
And I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with the recreationals.
Agreed, back when he was a "professional" he was tighter and drier than a nuns rectum. And about as fun as one.
Seems like he started living his life as he retired. Lots of brainfarts when the bong disables his PC filter in his head.
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Around the 17th century.
Popularly, to refer to the Jews re: WWII - the '60's.
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Eisenhower predicted the rise of the deniers and insisted that there be as many eyewitnesses as possible.
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There were countless atrocities that occurred in WWII. Millions died in Eastern Europe that could have only dreamed a tattoo was their worst fate.
Not sure on your angle here, Cholo. They hijacked the term?
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There were countless atrocities that occurred in WWII. Millions died in Eastern Europe that could have only dreamed a tattoo was their worst fate.
Agreed. But stay on point.
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Around the 17th century.
Maybe older.... Don't know many Greek Heros from the 17th century
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_(sacrifice)
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I'm more concerned of the fact that you can't question it AT ALL. It's 'anti-Semitic' or 'racist' to do so. You're stopped from asking questions or pointing anything out. You're immediately classed as a heretic and insulted. That alone really gets my interest and start questioning things.
I've been to Auschwitz. September 2010. Things happened there. People died. How many died I don't know. Could be 1000s, could be millions.
But classing me as 'anti-Semitic' because I or others dare talking about it ... go fuck yourself with a retractable baton.
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6 million exactly ???
+ or - 10 ? 20 100? 1,000? 1, 000, 000 ???
No, EXACTLY. Can't deviate from that number without being 'anti-Semitic' ::)
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I speak to old folks who will tell you VIVID stories...that's in their lifetime...still deeply affected by it all...losing their best friends as teenagers...it was VERY recent in terms of time
those old farts arent browsing dorian facebook tho
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Around the 17th century.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=holocaust&searchmode=none
maybe even earlier
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From his facebook page - April 4th, looks like Vic is banging the gear back into him...
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1000649_717187228333551_1792259903_n.jpg)
No shit!
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The only problem I have is that the record should state six million khazarians not jews.
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
Proof that you truly are a fucking moron!
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Is Goodrum trying to get into a posedown w yates over this?
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I'm more concerned of the fact that you can't question it AT ALL. It's 'anti-Semitic' or 'racist' to do so. You're stopped from asking questions or pointing anything out. You're immediately classed as a heretic and insulted. That alone really gets my interest and start questioning things.
I've been to Auschwitz. September 2010. Things happened there. People died. How many died I don't know. Could be 1000s, could be millions.
But classing me as 'anti-Semitic' because I or others dare talking about it ... go fuck yourself with a retractable baton.
You can question all you want, but when it comes down to facts/#'s - let's leave it to the academics. They may not be perfect, and may be slow in conclusion, but they are better than idiocies like those previously voiced/cited up-thread.
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13 Million people in total! Not just Jews. All I can say about Dorian is once a Neo Nazi always a Neo Nazi!
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ronnie rep melting hard
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You can question all you want, but when it comes down to facts/#'s - let's leave it to the academics. They may not be perfect, and may be slow in conclusion, but they are better than idiocies like those previously voiced/cited up-thread.
You think all academics agree on everything all the time? It's like Global Warming. Pick your side and defend to your little heart's content if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside. I know academics do that.
My point is not that I don't believe in the tales we're told. I'm merely speculating that you're quickly silenced if you question. And that has the opposite effect on me what they intend.
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those old farts arent browsing dorian facebook tho
Wow.
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fag hat yates was a neo nazi in his youth. This disgusts me. Also the current holocaust denial. >:(
he should be stripped of all his sandows.
A very useful idiot you seem to be.
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13 Million people in total! Not just Jews. All I can say about Dorian is once a Neo Nazi always a Neo Nazi!
'Ronnie Rep' trying on teh spinzors people :D
Spin boy, spin spin spin! ;D
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ronnie rep melting hard
No, just stating a fact!
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A very useful idiot you seem to be.
Haha. Ain't the kiddo just.
Dorian offers and opinion and gets labelled a 'Nazi'.
Haha. You can't make this up :D
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You think all academics agree on everything all the time? It's like Global Warming. Pick your side and defend to your little heart's content if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside. I know academics do that.
My point is not that I don't believe in the tales we're told. I'm merely speculating that you're quickly silenced if you question. And that has the opposite effect on me what they intend.
Comprehension. Not a strong point. Got it.
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Anyway. The thread will be deleted shortly.
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Some numbers are probably inflated. The nazis felt it was the right thing to do at the time... get over it already. Jews have their own state now so they should stop whining already
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Haha. Ain't the kiddo just.
Dorian offers and opinion and gets labelled a 'Nazi'.
Haha. You can't make this up :D
I don't know about Nazi, but I'm comfortable with idiot.
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Comprehension. Not a strong point. Got it.
Agreed.
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Interesting that it only has one meaning today, which is to describe certain events in Europe that occurred during WWII involving one group of people, despite millions of people dying due to the war itself, disease, starvation, etc.
The thing about the Nazi pogrom compared to the other casualties of World War II is this:
The attempted extermination of all Jews in Europe was an industrial enterprise. They took raw data compiled by Fritz Haber (German chemist and developer of gaseous rodenticides) and scaled it up to design the industrial complexes used to kill Jews/Gypsies/others on an industrial scale. The principals of the European Holocaust studied the Ford Motor Company in setting up the enterprise. (A Ford executive said that when Henry heard the sentence, “They were killing people the way Ford makes cars.” he lost the will to live.)
The dehumanization was so complete, the perpetrators thought of it in terms of units of production cycled through a process.
This is the difference.
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Some numbers are probably inflated. The nazis felt it was the right thing to do at the time... get over it already. Jews have their own state now so they should stop whining already
hitler wanted to give the jews their own state as well, the island of molokai
and now the americans put them in palestine and that's supposed to be a better solution
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Yates's page must've had a giant purging over the last day and a half, nothing but a cryptic cross post is left. Aaron Singerman's page still has a rather large chunk of conversation on it. Our own Ron Avidan was saddened by it -
https://www.facebook.com/aaron.singerman .
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Chimp, you're exactly what's wrong with "well meaning", informed society.
Riding your high horse of intellectual entitlement and when things get nasty - oops... "but people who are beyond ridicule and self interest have stated that it is so."
Thanks to the internet the spiel of playing the ultimate victim, and silencing any critics via the left leaning bulldozer of academics & media,
is over.
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people are such sheep
tearing their hero apart just because he said something politically incorrect
and all the limp wrist people get in "queer outrage" mode
lol ;D
reminds me of this
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Chimp, you're exactly what's wrong with "well meaning", informed society.
Riding your high horse of intellectual entitlement and when things get nasty - oops... "but people who are beyond ridicule and self interest have stated that it is so."
Thanks to the internet the spiel of playing the ultimate victim, and silencing any critics via the left leaning bulldozer of academics & media,
is over.
Fuzzy, to the point of incomprehensibility. What is your question/point? :)
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people are such sheep
tearing their hero apart just because he said something politically incorrect
and all the limp wrist people get in "queer outrage" mode
lol ;D
reminds me of this
Same inhumane people who would have screamed High Hiddla from the top of their lungs in the 30's - from national socialist to global socialist.
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Same inhumane people who would have screamed High Hiddla from the top of their lungs in the 30's - from national socialist to global socialist.
most likely
never thinking for themself always following the horde
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hitler wanted to give the jews their own state as well, the island of molokai
and now the americans put them in palestine and that's supposed to be a better solution
really? I thought he was quoted saying Madagaskar in some diary. guess he changed his mind later on.
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really? I thought he was quoted saying Madagaskar in some diary. guess he changed his mind later on.
haha i guess i got them mixed up ;D
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Pope John Paul 2 worked for the factory which made the gas used in the chambers during WW2. He was born not far from Auschwitz in a village near Krakow and returned there just before his death around 2003 to beg forgiveness.
I know that the Pope during WW2 had no problems working with the Nazis and he encouraged all Catholics to grass up any Jews they knew.
Of course the recent Pope Benedict who is now in hiding for paedophilia was actually a member of the Hitler Youth.
With the Catholic church backing up Hitler's desire to rid the world of Jews I have no doubt the 6 million could be true. I cannot understand why the Nazis get all the blame when the Catholic church was equally responsible.
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I'm actually glad he posted this. Seems a lot of former fans who glanced past his 9/11 bullshit have apparently drawn the line here. Fuck him. Check out Singerman's FB page.
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I'm actually glad he posted this. Seems a lot of former fans who glanced past his 9/11 bullshit have apparently drawn the line here. Fuck him. Check out Singerman's FB page.
the sheep will all forget in a few months and suck his cock as always
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Fuzzy, to the point of incomprehensibility. What is your question/point? :)
I've made my point quite clear - check your all knowing privilege.
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I've made my point quite clear - check your all knowing privilege.
Leave it to the 'academics' bro. The same academics that will get shouted down if they don't tow the party line :-X
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Oh geez - David Icke reptilian CT is back I see.
The original hebrews were black, the original republicans were reptiles.
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Leave it to the academics like David Irving. ;)
;D
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I've made my point quite clear - check your all knowing privilege.
No point made, or question asked. So noted.
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Leave it to the 'academics' bro. The same academics that will get shouted down if they don't tow the party line :-X
Option rope is their final destination.
Histories' rivers are running red and some folks still have the nerve to just give it to a "well meaning" higher up.
Though academia has a good portion of very well educated scholars who do not share "special interest group history" aka anti German, it's hard to get a stance.
The German historian/philosopher Ernst Nolte is one of the more credible scholars - belonged to the "accepted" in the 50ies and suddenly during the 60ies the "heretic committee of peace" decided he was a bad guy.
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You think all academics agree on everything all the time? It's like Global Warming. Pick your side and defend to your little heart's content if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside. I know academics do that.
My point is not that I don't believe in the tales we're told. I'm merely speculating that you're quickly silenced if you question. And that has the opposite effect on me what they intend.
this
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this
Not this.
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Seems like some idiots stay that way, no matter how much they want to PC sugar coat it. Once a nazi, always a nazi. I don't buy that he all of a sudden changed his political view, he may have removed his nazi tatoo, but he sure haven't removed his ideas. As stated previously, he probably kept his ideas under the lid during competition and during the lifetime of the schmoe Weiders. After all, the schmoe brothers were the judge and jury when it came to which bodybuilder would "make" it in the industry.
He has married TWO NON-WHITES, which is antithetical to National Socialism which deplores interracial relations of any kind. White people who did this sort of thing in NS Germany, along with their offspring--eg, the blacks of the Rhineland who mated with German women--were interned in concentration camps and sterilized!
Some National Socialist/Nazi, married to a mestizo South American.
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Pope John Paul 2 worked for the factory which made the gas used in the chambers during WW2. He was born not far from Auschwitz in a village near Krakow and returned there just before his death around 2003 to beg forgiveness.
I know that the Pope during WW2 had no problems working with the Nazis and he encouraged all Catholics to grass up any Jews they knew.
Of course the recent Pope Benedict who is now in hiding for paedophilia was actually a member of the Hitler Youth.
With the Catholic church backing up Hitler's desire to rid the world of Jews I have no doubt the 6 million could be true. I cannot understand why the Nazis get all the blame when the Catholic church was equally responsible.
Then what's everyone's opinion on the Jew Lazar Kaganovic who ordered the deaths of SEVEN MILLION Ukrainians?
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From what I read yates was a skin not a nazi. The distinction being the original skins were working class blokes who liked reggae.
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Then what's everyone's opinion on the Jew Lazar Kaganovic who ordered the deaths of SEVEN MILLION Ukrainians?
hes a fag.
didnt even lift.
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Then what's everyone's opinion on the Jew Lazar Kaganovic who ordered the deaths of SEVEN MILLION Ukrainians?
it's ok because he's jew
jew never wrong
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piece of shit
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(http://i.imgur.com/OP0eqK0.jpg)
Auschwitz Yates vs "Denier Yates"
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damn
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Then what's everyone's opinion on the Jew Lazar Kaganovic who ordered the deaths of SEVEN MILLION Ukrainians?
You have the right to remain silent. Prepare for a visit from the new Robocop, rainbow edition, with a minigun dildo and a "human rights" conformant thought detector.
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it's ok because he's jew
jew never wrong
I smell a time out for AnalHalo!
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I smell a time out for AnalHalo!
melt down much ??? :D
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Then what's everyone's opinion on the Jew Lazar Kaganovic who ordered the deaths of SEVEN MILLION Ukrainians?
Tell me more?
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Pope John Paul 2 worked for the factory which made the gas used in the chambers during WW2. He was born not far from Auschwitz in a village near Krakow and returned there just before his death around 2003 to beg forgiveness.
I know that the Pope during WW2 had no problems working with the Nazis and he encouraged all Catholics to grass up any Jews they knew.
Of course the recent Pope Benedict who is now in hiding for paedophilia was actually a member of the Hitler Youth.
With the Catholic church backing up Hitler's desire to rid the world of Jews I have no doubt the 6 million could be true. I cannot understand why the Nazis get all the blame when the Catholic church was equally responsible.
You are pathetic dude. A common anti-semite, anti-catholic type persona.
Would you like to explain why the head Rabbi of Israel converted to Catholicism after WWII?
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melt down much ??? :D
I realize English is not your first language, perhaps you should Google meltdown!
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what's with all the exclamation marks ???
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I smell a time out for AnalHalo!
Haha, don't be so sensitive ::)
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I realize English is not your first language, perhaps you should Google meltdown!
meltdown
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I hate bitches who screenshot things
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You are pathetic dude. A common anti-semite, anti-catholic type persona.
Would you like to explain why the head Rabbi of Israel converted to Catholicism after WWII?
5 pages before they finally pull that out of the bag :D
I don't know if the Khazzies around these parts are getting worse or better :-X
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Haha, don't be so sensitive ::)
Jew's are generally sensitive about the Holocaust!
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Jew's are generally sensitive about the Holocaust!
ahahaha outed
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Jew's are generally sensitive about the Holocaust!
But those Jewish guards in concentration camps were my favourite Judens ;D
Jew screwing Jew :D
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javascript:void(0);
Haha, don't be so sensitive ::)
Jehovah boy's were very trendy in Pro Nazi Belgium :)
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Yates can say no wrong.
yates for overlord.
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Go read the academic book "The Holocaust Industry," in its entirety (get out a dictionary for the big words) before u discount the inflated numbers and Jewish agenda theories. And "The Holocaust Industry," is written by a university professor of Jewish studies whose parents both were in concentration camps, so he's not some anti-Semitic (whatever that is) teenage, Neo-Nazi, but someone with an educated perspective. He doesn't deny the Holocaust, but puts it in perspective...
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Go read the academic book "The Holocaust Industry," in its entirety (get out a dictionary for the big words) before u discount the inflated numbers and Jewish agenda theories. And "The Holocaust Industry," is written by a university professor of Jewish studies whose parents both were in concentration camps, so he's not some anti-Semitic (whatever that is) teenage, Neo-Nazi, but someone with an educated perspective. He doesn't deny the Holocaust, but puts it in perspective...
Sounds like a typical anti semitic neo nazi revisionist. .. ::)
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Sounds like a typical anti semitic neo nazi revisionist. .. ::)
pj braun to the rescue
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Looks he caved to the pressure and took it off his page. He must have heard GB was discussing it! ;D
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Very open-minded of u.
sarcasm broseph
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the problem with the holocaust deniers (and all conspiracy theorists actually) is that they pick parts of history or facts that were at one time believed (but that modern studies have shown to be wrong) as evidence of the 'holes' in the true fact that they are stating the conspiracy theory about.
for example, in the years following the holocaust, it was believed that 4 million people died at Auschwitz. in fact, it was on a plaque at the holocaust museum there for years etc.
however, modern scholars do not believe this figure and can verify that AT LEAST 1.5 million people died there.
the problem is that the nazis tried to hide evidence of their crimes and DID NOT keep records.
holocaust deniers love to point out the 4 million figure as wrong, and use it as evidence in their theory. they NEVER point out that the figure is now regarded as inaccurate and has been revised..
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I suspect Yates has been reading the works of historian David Irving. Yates is right in that much of history is a lie, if that is his statement. In my mind, that isn't to suggest that many did not perish during WWII, only that many purported events (WWII based or otherwise) that have repeatedly been stated as fact, are not always fact. The atrocities committed throughout history need no embellishment, as they are heinous enough on their own.
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the problem with the holocaust deniers (and all conspiracy theorists actually) is that they pick parts of history or facts that were at one time believed (but that modern studies have shown to be wrong) as evidence of the 'holes' in the true fact that they are stating the conspiracy theory about.
for example, in the years following the holocaust, it was believed that 4 million people died at Auschwitz. in fact, it was on a plaque at the holocaust museum there for years etc.
however, modern scholars do not believe this figure and can verify that AT LEAST 1.5 million people died there.
the problem is that the nazis tried to hide evidence of their crimes and DID NOT keep records.
holocaust deniers love to point out the 4 million figure as wrong, and use it as evidence in their theory. they NEVER point out that the figure is now regarded as inaccurate and has been revised..
I would suggest the opposite. They kept very detailed records.
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the problem with the holocaust deniers (and all conspiracy theorists actually) is that they pick parts of history or facts that were at one time believed (but that modern studies have shown to be wrong) as evidence of the 'holes' in the true fact that they are stating the conspiracy theory about.
for example, in the years following the holocaust, it was believed that 4 million people died at Auschwitz. in fact, it was on a plaque at the holocaust museum there for years etc.
however, modern scholars do not believe this figure and can verify that AT LEAST 1.5 million people died there.
the problem is that the nazis tried to hide evidence of their crimes and DID NOT keep records.
holocaust deniers love to point out the 4 million figure as wrong, and use it as evidence in their theory. they NEVER point out that the figure is now regarded as inaccurate and has been revised..
Some deniers will subtract those who died from other causes like diseases such as typhus from the total number of deaths. As I mentioned before, the nazi are still responsible for those deaths as those individuals were not there willingly.
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I think the reason people are "coming out" against this issue(the validity of the total number) is because they are getting tired of hearing it. Similar to blacks asking for their forty acres and a mule. It happened, we won't forget, let's move past it.
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I think the reason people are "coming out" against this issue(the validity of the total number) is because they are getting tired of hearing it. Similar to blacks asking for their forty acres and a mule. It happened, we won't forget, let's move past it.
boom.
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ahahaha outed
What the fuck does that mean you dimwit, I wasn't outed, I said I was Jewish!
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Sounds like a typical anti semitic neo nazi revisionist. .. ::)
Norman Finkelstein is Jewish, genius, and both parents were interned in Majdanek!
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Norman Finkelstein is Jewish, genius, and both parents were interned in Majdanek!
he was being sarcastic
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But those Jewish guards in concentration camps were my favourite Judens ;D
Jew screwing Jew :D
Oh yeah? What about Genrich Yagoda, Jewish overseer of the Gulag system and head of the NKVD/Cheka?
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if you disagree with what jews says about their history they call you anti semitic, if you say you dont support gay marriage you are labeled homophobic, if you disagree with the african americans history they call you a racist, the point is you cannot question or disagree with different classes of people without being called a name, and that is what is ridiculous.
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I stumbled on the video he mentioned as I'm a bit obsessive history wise. It had some interesting parts let's just put it thay way...like video footage of staff at one of the Concentration camps admitting to a Jewish skeptic that the gas inlets in the ceilings were put in POST war...the Jewish skeptic disappeared not long after compiling his investigation.
Just to add I'm totally neutral on the subject...I just want the facts.
You want facts as to whether the holocaust existed? Are you insane? 10 million people were killed.
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if you disagree with what jews says about their history they call you anti semitic, if you say you dont support gay marriage you are labeled homophobic, if you disagree with the african americans history they call you a racist, the point is you cannot question or disagree with different classes of people without being called a name, and that is what is ridiculous.
its always the white mans fault
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i think its funny ppl get offended
who gives a shit
Some people get offended because their grandparents (all of their family) were in those concentration camps.
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You want facts as to whether the holocaust existed? Are you insane? 10 million people were killed.
10 million now?
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10 million now?
No, 25 million
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My recent estimates put the jew dead around 1.25billion.
FEEL BAD YOU SOULLESS SHITBAGS
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My recent estimates put the jew dead around 1.25billion.
FEEL BAD YOU SOULLESS SHITBAGS
Yeah, well everyone wants to wax pious because Jews in the current day had ancestors who perished during WWII and in National Socialist controlled Europe, but it's all fine and dandy to to ridicule Derek Anthony, Nasser, and Kovacs who are now deceased but have living relatives. Everyone wants to be the sophisticated, pious, weepy, and altruistic Ghandi but will revert right back to their malicious and greasy ways seconds or minutes after they comment on the Dorian-Holocaust ordeal by insulting fat people, queers, Asians, blacks, and the like.
Noble!
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Arguing over how many "millions" were exterminated. You fucking people are priceless!
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It's very common for closeted homosexual man to do anything to prove to the outside world that they are heterosexual. Including making their paid "beard" tattoo the words "Dorian's girl" to her ass :-\
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as far as atrocities go the holocaust is probably one of the best documented cases of mass murder - not just from the allies but the russians as well.
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as far as atrocities go the holocaust is probably one of the best documented cases of mass murder - not just from the allies but the russians as well.
Yeah, at least you got a point! The Russians starved 7 million Ukrainians to death and a few more million worked to death in the gulags and god knows how many others hanged, machine gunned, and tortured.
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What a retard. :-\
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he went full retard it seems. like 333386 except he likes the blacks.
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Yeah, at least you got a point! The Russians starved 7 million Ukrainians to death and a few more million worked to death in the gulags and god knows how many others hanged, machine gunned, and tortured.
I don't understand what you are trying to say. I never said the russians were angels.
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Well, if true it certainly matches the man, seeing as how his muscles were fake too.
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Arguing over how many "millions" were exterminated. You fucking people are priceless!
Fuck me Nancy, calm down. Nobody takes any pleasure in anyone's death here. The gist of the thread (apart from the few trolls) is that somehow it's 'anti-Semitic' to question the Jewish deaths in this ordeal. As if they deserve 'special treatment' :D
I firmly believe that Yates is full of shit. I've been inside the Auschwitz gas chambers. It's a terrible terrible place. I also firmly believe people died there.
It's the amount that's in question. As if we're to accept, without ANY questions, that the official tally is the word of God. Or get accused of all sorts of juvenile shit.
Pathetic and does their case more harm than good.
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"I have many times suggested that the real atrocity in World War II was what I call "innocenticide" - the mass killing of innocents. What undoubtedly happened to the Jews in Nazi hands was not a crime because they were Jews, but because they were (mostly) innocent Jews. It was their innocence that made it a crime, not their Jewishness. But once you accept my word, "innocenticide", instead, that reduces the total pot of Gold available to the Jews, because then the victims of Dresden, Coventry and Hiroshima, might qualify for cash handouts, so they object to it: they can't have that." - David Irving
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yes david irving - there is an unbiased source ::)
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I would suggest the opposite. They kept very detailed records.
in the beginning of Auschwitz, yes.
in the last year of operations, no.
that year of missing records could be a million people.
hell, one summer they gassed 450 thousand hungarian jews in the infamous 'jews for trucks' deal.
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I've got to get me one of them third eyes in my pineal gland.
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I've got to get me one of them third eyes in my pineal gland.
Must be what Tool was talking about.
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I'm pretty sure Ford never said that.
It was a Ford executive that related that. Henry was also weighed down by the fact that he bullied Edsel for years. Then Edsel contracted stomach cancer and died. It seemed Henry believed that parents should inflict unrelenting emotional trauma on children. He realized in his last year of life what a horrible person he had been.
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Damn. Dorian has got some explaining to do.
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Damn. Dorian has got some explaining to do.
Why? its his opinion, bunch of little sensitive drug abusing nonames trying to kick Dorian.
Fuck you. 8)
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If Dorian really did say this, then it is just stunning. He definately needs a history lesson, in the incredible atrocities that were committed in WWII, notably to the millions of Jews, in what we call the 'Holocaust', and to the millions of others that were killed (18 million, etc). He really needs to go to the Vad Veshem Musuem, where they actually have records (3 million Jewish names recorded +) , on the millions who perished. He really needs to Skirball Cultural Center, to learn a little more about life, history instead of just blurting lies out. He should know better. Enough of, it is his opinion. It isn't an opinion. It was a fact that millions perished, whether at the camps or on the streets in various cities.
Would like to here from Dorian himself on WTF was going on his mind, and if this was truly him in a normal mental state. Does he really want his image to be tarnished. Very sad, because Dorian was always cool, even when he knew I was Jewish and Israeli. I don't get it. So would like to hear from him. From someone who I have been reporting, taking pics for year and years, it is very disappointing not to hear anything but silence right now, even if he deleted all of these references.
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I can see how someone could be severely offended by questioning details of an event like the Holocaust, especially when lots of us have been told horror stories about it by the people who lived it.
The next generation will probably have the ability to be more objective about it, the facts are well documented.
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This is a real shame. Used to have huge respect for Dorian. I have seen drugs have a similar effect on others. They get sucked into a loop of conspiracy theories through an expanded state of conscience.
I have no doubt that the victorious put their own spin on history, but with all the documented evidence, whether this event took place is not in doubt.
Dorian has just substituted one set of drugs for another and his true colours are beginning to show. I'm sad to say, but I can see things going downhill fast for him.
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I wonder how many civilian people were killed by U.S.A since end of WW2. ??? Not many people talking about it, but jews topic is always welcome.
We have still crimes against humanity going on.
Stick to bodybuilding and left politics behind. Truth is that Jews were never liked across all of Europe, especially Germany, Poland (yes Poles hated Jews even before WW2) and Baltic states where they supported Bolsheviks.
Maybe if we lived in pre war europe we would have much better picture and less one sided about this topic.
Now get back to oiled men in thongs gentlemans.
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Definitely wasn't faked thats ridiculous
Holocaust Revisionism usually relates to questioning the amount of Jews killed in the shoah.
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I can see how someone could be severely offended by questioning details of an event like the Holocaust, especially when lots of us have been told horror stories about it by the people who lived it. The next generation will probably have the ability to be more objective about it, the facts are well documented.
It isn't the questioning, it is the distortion of what happened to millions, both Jews, Russians, Gypsies and many others. It is the trying to deny fact's which are well documented, as horrifying as they were. Instead of understanding, you try to hid it and distort it, in the hopes that a new generation will trivialize it. Like some people try to do with the Word Trade Bombings, and other historical facts, because it is painful. Never forget, and people try to.
I have heard many stories from my grandfather, who lived in Poland, then moved to Italy, and then took his family by boat to the land which is now Israel. It wasn't pretty. It isn't something we talk about in our family. Because it was very painful. And because loss is easier to block out.
Which is why I usually stay away from too much politics or painful subjects, as usually in the bodybuilding, fitness, figure world, we have many sorts of races, cultures, religions and we try to get along. It is usually nice. But Dorian. Wow.
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Too many guest posing appearances in Dubai, India I suppose...
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Dorian is very bright. I have a REALLY hard time thinking he would say something like this did'nt happen. He can be hard to fully understand because he does in fact not say much at all at times. But i just think he is shy. The dude will not say anything bad about anyone if you don't attack him first. I am sure all he meant is that most history is exaggereted. Nothing more or less. I promise you he have nothing against jews!
If Dorian really did say this, then it is just stunning. He definately needs a history lesson, in the incredible atrocities that were committed in WWII, notably to the millions of Jews, in what we call the 'Holocaust', and to the millions of others that were killed (18 million, etc). He really needs to go to the Vad Veshem Musuem, where they actually have records, on the millions who perished. He really needs to Skirball Cultural Center, to learn a little more about life, history instead of just blurting lies out. He should know better. Enough of, it is his opinion. It isn't an opinion. It was a fact that millions perished, whether at the camps or on the streets in various cities.
Would like to here from Dorian himself on WTF was going on his mind, and if this was truly him in a normal mental state. Does he really want his image to be tarnished. Very sad, because Dorian was always cool, even when he knew I was Jewish and Israeli. I don't get it. So would like to hear from him. From someone who I have been reporting, taking pics for year and years, it is very disappointing not to hear anything but silence right now, even if he deleted all of these references.
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It isn't the questioning, it is the distortion of what happened to millions, both Jews, Russians, Gypsies and many others. It is the trying to deny fact's which are well documented, as horrifying as they were. Instead of understanding, you try to hid it and distort it, in the hopes that a new generation will trivialize it. Like some people try to do with the Word Trade Bombings, and other historical facts, because it is painful. Never forget, and people try to.
I have heard many stories from my grandfather, who lived in Poland, then moved to Italy, and then took his family by boat to the land which is now Israel. It wasn't pretty. It isn't something we talk about in our family. Because it was very painful. And because loss is easier to block out.
I've noticed many wont deny it - but will attempt to downplay the holocaust by debating the numbers - as if the magnitude of this atrocity weighs any less on the heart of Jewry or Humanity as a whole.
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I suspect Yates has been reading the works of historian David Irving. Yates is right in that much of history is a lie, if that is his statement. In my mind, that isn't to suggest that many did not perish during WWII, only that many purported events (WWII based or otherwise) that have repeatedly been stated as fact, are not always fact. The atrocities committed throughout history need no embellishment, as they are heinous enough on their own.
First of all, prove your claim that much of history is lie, by choosing what ever example and evidence which proves it to be a lie. Not from the soviet Russia or communistic countries, but from the western world. You will find out that it is much easier to say than prove. Secondly, what comes at the truth of the holocaust, regarding this matter history is as accurate and truth as it can be. You can be nitpicking about the numbers until your head explodes, but what is the difference if Nazis killed 4 million, 6 million or 12 million of jews, while it still is holocaust and war crime? Figures in the history book's are the truth as they see it at the moment. It is a fact based in the knowledge at the moment. It can't be anything else. And at that moment they did have most of the eyewitnesses, documents, natzis etc. to use to figure out the facts, and I have no doubt that they did best they can to bring out the truth. That is in the history, and now every freaking idiot and fool try to deny it, because history is all lie? How come it is all lie? Because idiot's like you say it is. You pick things from the history and look at it in the light of the "internet fact's", and it look completely different. You should understand that there is no facts in the internet, just bullshit from various foil hat idiots. There is no such thing than internet facts, because there is no means to know what is truth and what not. Truth in the history books is a fact, because you can't chance it when ever you feel like it. You can change it only by the real and solid studies, not by the rumors and bullshit like you can in the internet. That's why you are wrong, and history is truth, not a lie.
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It isn't the questioning, it is the distortion of what happened to millions, both Jews, Russians, Gypsies and many others. It is the trying to deny fact's which are well documented, as horrifying as they were. Instead of understanding, you try to hid it and distort it, in the hopes that a new generation will trivialize it. Like some people try to do with the Word Trade Bombings, and other historical facts, because it is painful. Never forget, and people try to.
I have heard many stories from my grandfather, who lived in Poland, then moved to Italy, and then took his family by boat to the land which is now Israel. It wasn't pretty. It isn't something we talk about in our family. Because it was very painful. And because loss is easier to block out.
Which is why I usually stay away from too much politics or painful subjects, as usually in the bodybuilding, fitness, figure world, we have many sorts of races, cultures, religions and we try to get along. It is usually nice. But Dorian. Wow.
Will be in Toronto next month. The Holocaust is still made immediate by the (now diminished) number of survivors I see.
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Damn. Dorian has got some explaining to do.
aaron is such a queer
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What do you expect from a limey kunt?
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I personally think Yates is a crack pot but I don't like this thing that anyone questioning the facts re the holocaust is automatically assumed to be anti semitic .I very much doubt Yates is anti semitic or racist he is just a fully paid up member of the tin foil hat brigade and likes to believe anything and everything is a conspiracy.
Its the same thing with Israel too, if you question what Israel is doing in Palestine people assume you don't like jews. It is strange how history shows how quickly the oppressed can be become the oppressors though.
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I personally think Yates is a crack pot but I don't like this thing that anyone questioning the facts re the holocaust is automatically assumed to be anti semitic .I very much doubt Yates is anti semitic or racist he is just a fully paid up member of the tin foil hat brigade and likes to believe anything and everything is a conspiracy.
Its the same thing with Israel too, if you question what Israel is doing in Palestine people assume you don't like jews. It is strange how history shows how quickly the oppressed can be become the oppressors though.
haha no question about it
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It isn't the questioning, it is the distortion of what happened to millions, both Jews, Russians, Gypsies and many others. It is the trying to deny fact's which are well documented, as horrifying as they were. Instead of understanding, you try to hid it and distort it, in the hopes that a new generation will trivialize it. Like some people try to do with the Word Trade Bombings, and other historical facts, because it is painful. Never forget, and people try to.
I have heard many stories from my grandfather, who lived in Poland, then moved to Italy, and then took his family by boat to the land which is now Israel. It wasn't pretty. It isn't something we talk about in our family. Because it was very painful. And because loss is easier to block out.
Which is why I usually stay away from too much politics or painful subjects, as usually in the bodybuilding, fitness, figure world, we have many sorts of races, cultures, religions and we try to get along. It is usually nice. But Dorian. Wow.
Ron, is it safe to say u don't own or would ever buy a German car?
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It isn't the questioning, it is the distortion of what happened to millions, both Jews, Russians, Gypsies and many others. It is the trying to deny fact's which are well documented, as horrifying as they were. Instead of understanding, you try to hid it and distort it, in the hopes that a new generation will trivialize it. Like some people try to do with the Word Trade Bombings, and other historical facts, because it is painful. Never forget, and people try to.
I have heard many stories from my grandfather, who lived in Poland, then moved to Italy, and then took his family by boat to the land which is now Israel. It wasn't pretty. It isn't something we talk about in our family. Because it was very painful. And because loss is easier to block out.
Which is why I usually stay away from too much politics or painful subjects, as usually in the bodybuilding, fitness, figure world, we have many sorts of races, cultures, religions and we try to get along. It is usually nice. But Dorian. Wow.
Ron, we need to talk about banning "Dorian Yates" from GetBig. All threads with his name should be deleted out of respect to the families that have suffered.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!
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Ron, we need to talk about banning "Dorian Yates" from GetBig. All threads with his name should be deleted out of respect to the families that have suffered.
STAY POSITIVE!!!!!!!!
Stop your censorship bullshit. As long as people stay respectful on a subject clearly painful for others, I see no reason why it shouldn't be debated. It's when you go on a moral crusade or blatant witch hunt when you lose other people's respect and sympathy for your cause. I've stood in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Let me tell you. When they close the doors you cannot see your hand in front of your eyes from an inch away. I'm 6'2 and had to walk with a hunch as the ceilings are so low. Imagine you as a man, with your wife and child in there when the Zyklon canisters drop. Imagine the feeling of helplessness. Facing your own death whilst trying in whatever way you can, to be there for your family. It really brings it home standing there.
Unfortunately 'some' Jewish people can get very uppity and easily throw BS statements of 'anti-Semitism' around needlessly. It doesn't help anyone and cause resentment and misunderstanding. It's not needed.
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jeez some of you people make it sound like Dorian is Dr Mengele reincarnated ::) get over it already
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U mean the gas chambers that were reportedly fabricated after the war as part of an anti-West campaign by the Soviet Union? Did u visit before 1992 when the claimed death toll at Auschwitz was 4 million plus? A figure that no one takes even remotely seriously anymore as it is likely off by at least 3 million.
Stalin's killing machine was far more prolific than the Germans yet the US/UK were allies with him and today there is virtually no mention of the millions and millions of innocents he killed. No movies, no museums, no foundations, nothing. Moreover, the US/UK acquiesced to Stalin's enslavement of Eastern Europe for 40 years after WWII with nothing in return other than the creation of a new state in what was formerly Palestine.
Easy, there. Just Fat Alice trolling again. Guy's obesity and idiocy knows no bounds.
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If Dorian really did say this, then it is just stunning. He definately needs a history lesson, in the incredible atrocities that were committed in WWII, notably to the millions of Jews, in what we call the 'Holocaust', and to the millions of others that were killed (18 million, etc). He really needs to go to the Vad Veshem Musuem, where they actually have records (3 million Jewish names recorded +) , on the millions who perished. He really needs to Skirball Cultural Center, to learn a little more about life, history instead of just blurting lies out. He should know better. Enough of, it is his opinion. It isn't an opinion. It was a fact that millions perished, whether at the camps or on the streets in various cities.
Would like to here from Dorian himself on WTF was going on his mind, and if this was truly him in a normal mental state. Does he really want his image to be tarnished. Very sad, because Dorian was always cool, even when he knew I was Jewish and Israeli. I don't get it. So would like to hear from him. From someone who I have been reporting, taking pics for year and years, it is very disappointing not to hear anything but silence right now, even if he deleted all of these references.
if you actually look at the post, it merely says 'most history is a lie.....', with an article written by someone else.
Everyone wants to jump all over his nuts but no where do I really see him denying anything.. just commenting on an opinion piece that most history is a lie, because a lot of it IS.... the victors get to rewrite history using whatever propoganda they used during the war to rouse the citizens into fighting.
Its truth.
Ron I think youd be smart to talk to him and question what Dorian Really meany rather than getting offended bh an extremely cryptic comment on someone elses article over facebook.
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U mean the gas chambers that were reportedly fabricated after the war as part of an anti-West campaign by the Soviet Union? Did u visit before 1992 when the claimed death toll at Auschwitz was 4 million plus? A figure that no one takes even remotely seriously anymore as it is likely off by at least 3 million.
Stalin's killing machine was far more prolific than the Germans yet the US/UK were allies with him and today there is virtually no mention of the millions and millions of innocents he killed. No movies, no museums, no foundations, nothing. Moreover, the US/UK acquiesced to Stalin's enslavement of Eastern Europe for 40 years after WWII with nothing in return other than the creation of a new state in what was formerly Palestine.
One film, Katyn, by Andrzej Wajda.
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It is strange how history shows how quickly the oppressed can be become the oppressors though.
Jews were oppressors way before WWII bro. Fuck people are so uneducated, or should I say TV educated.
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Does singerman remind anyone else of a white, semi-successful version of goodrum?
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You want facts as to whether the holocaust existed? Are you insane? 10 million people were killed.
LOL where did you get that stat?
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Ron I think youd be smart to talk to him and question what Dorian Really meany rather than getting offended bh an extremely cryptic comment on someone elses article over facebook.
Oh, I agree, and yes, if and when I see Dorian, I will ask him straight up on this.
Ron, is it safe to say u don't own or would ever buy a German car
I have nothing against any German's at all. Most are very cool people. My mom lived in Germany for 2 years and knows German. Shame to think that people think Jews are against German's today when it was the policies of the Nazi's and his clan of fascists back then. Just irks me when people like to 'forget' or 'pretend it didn't happen'.
LOL where did you get that stat?
60 million were killed in World War II, from battles, to camps, etc. 19 to 25 million of these were related to crimes against humanity.
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Whats the best thing that came out of Auschwitz?
- the empty trains
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so let me get this straight. The Jews are supporting that 6 million died and the non jews are saying it's an inflated number
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if you actually look at the post, it merely says 'most history is a lie.....', with an article written by someone else.
Everyone wants to jump all over his nuts but no where do I really see him denying anything.. just commenting on an opinion piece that most history is a lie, because a lot of it IS.... the victors get to rewrite history using whatever propoganda they used during the war to rouse the citizens into fighting.
Its truth.
Ron I think youd be smart to talk to him and question what Dorian Really meany rather than getting offended bh an extremely cryptic comment on someone elses article over facebook.
We keep hearing this, it's become a tired, revisionist cliche. How would we know then about the atrocities committed against American Indians and black slaves? Were they the victors? Why are we taught about our failure in Vietnam? Did Charlie author our texts? We are all aware of historical nuances, and it is taught in American schools.
Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what Dorian was implying with that link/pic/comment. C'mon, let's keep it honest.
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The Holocaust really happened, but it was not what many think it was, it was way worse actually... The truth is that around 18 millions of Protestants, Orthodox, Christians, ethnic Jews and other minor groups were burned alive in ovens between Poland and Russia, by Catholic dictators Hitler and Stalin... Two puppets in the hands of the Vatican, where Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) and Count Wlodimir Ledochowski (Jesuit superior general) ordered the start of the "Final Solution"... They were burn in the five most important camps, Auschwitz, Lodz (sacrificing childrens also), Treblinka, Sobibór and Janowska, with priests chanting 24 hours on 24... It was not a matter of racism between Nazis and Jews, that's the bullshit story they told us, but it was a big religion human mass sacrifice, like many in our history, just the biggest one ever... The Vatican main role in this was and is still kept secret...
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Hitler abandoned Catholicism as a young man.
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Hitler abandoned Catholicism as a young man.
He wasnt all bad then.
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Maybe was Dorian sponsored by Adolf? ::)
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I think the reason people are "coming out" against this issue(the validity of the total number) is because they are getting tired of hearing it. Similar to blacks asking for their forty acres and a mule. It happened, we won't forget, let's move past it.
This!
It is not only genocide to have taken place over the last hundred years yet due to the amount of coverage and debate it gets, you would think it was.
The Nazi's now get portrayed as almost demonic super villains and Hitler is shown as the most evil man of all time. In reality, there have been countless of similar people/movements throughout history.
Even the allies (the good guys) in WW2 were hardly angelic and had committed numerous atrocities around the world.
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Nevertheless, major props to Ron for allowing this thread to survive and for there to be something of a reasonable exchange on the issue.
X2
I'm always impressed how Ron really respects the idea of free speech. He lets crazy Muslims post here, Jew haters, etc... Our opinions speak for themselves.
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Hitler abandoned Catholicism as a young man.
That is what they want you to believe... He was an early adept of Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII), who also chosed him for his innate speech talent, and the ability to influence people...
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We keep hearing this, it's become a tired, revisionist cliche. How would we know then about the atrocities committed against American Indians and black slaves? Were they the victors? Why are we taught about our failure in Vietnam? Did Charlie author our texts? We are all aware of historical nuances, and it is taught in American schools.
Also, it doesn't take a genius to figure out what Dorian was implying with that link/pic/comment. C'mon, let's keep it honest.
Vietnam is a perfect example.
it was a complete military victory. But the media, the anti-war movement, and the politicians made a military victory into a historical defeat. We're told we lost, because it was unpopular, when militarily, it was a slaughter. We left, the politicians pulled us out because people couldn't handle seeing bloodshed on TV, when the fact was we were absolutely destroying them.
We allowed them to write history. And it still stands.
Victors writing the narrative doesn't mean they get to erase all the horrible things that happened.. but it DOES mean that the way it's remembered may be in a different light than it may have been otherwise.
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this thread
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The Holocaust really happened, but it was not what many think it was, it was way worse actually... The truth is that around 18 millions of Protestants, Orthodox, Christians, ethnic Jews and other minor groups were burned alive in ovens between Poland and Russia, by Catholic dictators Hitler and Stalin... Two puppets in the hands of the Vatican, where Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) and Count Wlodimir Ledochowski (Jesuit superior general) ordered the start of the "Final Solution"... They were burn in the five most important camps, Auschwitz, Lodz (sacrificing childrens also), Treblinka, Sobibór and Janowska, with priests chanting 24 hours on 24... It was not a matter of racism between Nazis and Jews, that's the bullshit story they told us, but it was a big religion human mass sacrifice, like many in our history, just the biggest one ever... The Vatican main role in this was and is still kept secret...
Let's not forget that Hitlers offed members of the Jehova church just as good as he did jews as well. Many many many people died! But only ''6 million jews'' are all we hear about. i'm not personally into religion, more scieance, reality and proven facts. And it is proven that the exact numer of 6 million million might not be exact. And not telling about all the other people who died as awfull... Anyway the hallicaust is and was fucking AWFULL and I hope this never happens again! But human kind....human kind...why are we so damn destructive!? Both to ourself and to others! Make an effort TODAY and tell someone you care about that you really appreciate having them in your life. Takes a min and will make the persons day probably.
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Vietnam is a perfect example.
it was a complete military victory. But the media, the anti-war movement, and the politicians made a military victory into a historical defeat. We're told we lost, because it was unpopular, when militarily, it was a slaughter. We left, the politicians pulled us out because people couldn't handle seeing bloodshed on TV, when the fact was we were absolutely destroying them.
We allowed them to write history. And it still stands.
Victors writing the narrative doesn't mean they get to erase all the horrible things that happened.. but it DOES mean that the way it's remembered may be in a different light than it may have been otherwise.
But we know about this, too. That politicians undermined the military campaign, it was taught. We learned about the horrible treatment of returning vets, all covered. All I'm saying is that none of it was unwritten.
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so let me get this straight. The Jews are supporting that 6 million died and the non jews are saying it's an inflated number
No no no. Sane people are supporting that 6 million jews died and insane nazi brats and fucking foil hat imbeciles are saying it's an inflated number, but they do not have any evidence what so ever. There you have the whole truth in one line ;D
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That is what they want you to believe... He was an early adept of Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII), who also chosed him for his innate speech talent, and the ability to influence people...
You seem to have an agenda, so have at it.
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this thread
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This!
It is not only genocide to have taken place over the last hundred years yet due to the amount of coverage and debate it gets, you would think it was.
The Nazi's now get portrayed as almost demonic super villains and Hitler is shown as the most evil man of all time. In reality, there have been countless of similar people/movements throughout history.
Even the allies (the good guys) in WW2 were hardly angelic and had committed numerous atrocities around the world.
Stop that childish crap. The matter itself has not change, but the opinion of the masses has change to look at the natzis as an people, not as monsters they were. They really were monsters, members of the insane cult, merciless killers and scum of the earth. There is nothing positive in Nazism, it is all hate and stupidity. All kind of Nazi supporters and neo Nazis should be shot in the head, and world would be better place just by doing that.
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Stop that childish crap. The matter itself has not change, but the opinion of the masses has change to look at the natzis as an people, not as monsters they were. They really were monsters, members of the insane cult, merciless killers and scum of the earth. There is nothing positive in Nazism, it is all hate and stupidity. All kind of Nazi supporters and neo Nazis should be shot in the head, and world would be better place just by doing that.
Wow. That's kinda sweeping of you.
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Stop that childish crap. The matter itself has not change, but the opinion of the masses has change to look at the natzis as an people, not as monsters they were. They really were monsters, members of the insane cult, merciless killers and scum of the earth. There is nothing positive in Nazism, it is all hate and stupidity. All kind of Nazi supporters and neo Nazis should be shot in the head, and world would be better place just by doing that.
Opa Ropo, you sound like a menstruating hyena.
National socialists, like all well meaning people, never elevate humanity. You would have to kill many different classes of scum to get rid of "evil".
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Vietnam is a perfect example.
it was a complete military victory. But the media, the anti-war movement, and the politicians made a military victory into a historical defeat. We're told we lost, because it was unpopular, when militarily, it was a slaughter. We left, the politicians pulled us out because people couldn't handle seeing bloodshed on TV, when the fact was we were absolutely destroying them.
We allowed them to write history. And it still stands.
Victors writing the narrative doesn't mean they get to erase all the horrible things that happened.. but it DOES mean that the way it's remembered may be in a different light than it may have been otherwise.
What ever you are taking, stop it at once, it make you insane and you are writing really stupid bullshit all over this thread.. Vietnam war was a victory? All the documents about it, including everything mentioned from military sources, prove that those little guys really whipped your ass. Is this a new campaign of the foil hat morons ? Try to lie the Vietnam war to being victory to USA? You need some mental care, and you need it fast..
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Next week: Rodney St. Cloud speaks on the My Lai massacre.
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Next week: Rodney St. Cloud speaks on the My Lai massacre.
:)
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Opa Ropo, you sound like a menstruating hyena.
National socialists, like all well meaning people, never elevate humanity. You would have to kill many different classes of scum to get rid of "evil".
Well, you surely know that by experience, because you are child of one. What comes to Nazis, they would be perfect place to start, because no one needs them, and their absence would be 100% positive thing to this world.
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What ever you are taking, stop it at once, it make you insane and you are writing really stupid bullshit all over this thread.. Vietnam war was a victory? All the documents about it, including everything mentioned from military sources, prove that those little guys really whipped your ass. Is this a new campaign of the foil hat morons ? Try to lie the Vietnam war to being victory to USA? You need some mental care, and you need it fast..
We had a kill ratio of 10 to 1. The US could have absolutely destroyed the NVA had the media not distorted public opinion.
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What ever you are taking, stop it at once, it make you insane and you are writing really stupid bullshit all over this thread.. Vietnam war was a victory? All the documents about it, including everything mentioned from military sources, prove that those little guys really whipped your ass. Is this a new campaign of the foil hat morons ? Try to lie the Vietnam war to being victory to USA? You need some mental care, and you need it fast..
Lol.
Go try and look at actual numbers of enemies killed and ground taken, you know, the kind of things that determine military victory.
Politicians pulled us out and ran. Period.
But thanks for proving my point
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Next week: Rodney St. Cloud speaks on the My Lai massacre.
ROFL
Getbig's series on genocide. I'm excited about Bob Chic's lecture on Polpot.
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Are people really quibbling over whether four or six million jews were killed? How many do the revisionists believe were killed?
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Are people really quibbling over whether four or six million jews were killed? How many do the revisionists believe were killed?
7.
7 Jews.
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Let's not forget that Hitlers offed members of the Jehova church just as good as he did jews as well. Many many many people died! But only ''6 million jews'' are all we hear about. i'm not personally into religion, more scieance, reality and proven facts. And it is proven that the exact numer of 6 million million might not be exact. And not telling about all the other people who died as awfull... Anyway the hallicaust is and was fucking AWFULL and I hope this never happens again! But human kind....human kind...why are we so damn destructive!? Both to ourself and to others! Make an effort TODAY and tell someone you care about that you really appreciate having them in your life. Takes a min and will make the persons day probably.
Agree... Nazis, racism and "6 million Jews" was just a nice fable, reality was much worse, with Vatican and Jesuits as the main perpetrators... One of the reasons, probably the most important, was the famous Prophecy of Saint Malachy, also called the Prophecy of Popes, and the cult of the ancient obscure god Moloch... St. Malachy=Moloch...You seem to have an agenda, so have at it.
What agenda?
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Stop that childish crap. The matter itself has not change, but the opinion of the masses has change to look at the natzis as an people, not as monsters they were. They really were monsters, members of the insane cult, merciless killers and scum of the earth. There is nothing positive in Nazism, it is all hate and stupidity. All kind of Nazi supporters and neo Nazis should be shot in the head, and world would be better place just by doing that.
Childish?
You're the one who's just thrown his toys out of the pram like a little spoilt bitch!
I'm not a Neo-Nazi either. For starters, my skin colour is several shades too dark to ever be accepted in any such group. :D
However, which one of my points is incorrect?
- Other genocides that have taken place over the past centaury get ignored by the media
- There have been similar Nazi-like movements throughout history - they were not particularly unique
- Many of the nations/allies that fought against Nazism were also bigoted colonialists that committed numerous atrocities throughout the world
These are facts. I'm not disputing the holocaust anyway. It happened. History is full of blood.
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Agree... Nazis, racism and "6 million Jews" was just a nice fable, reality was much worse, with Vatican and Jesuits as the main perpetrators... One of the reasons, probably the most important, was the famous Prophecy of Saint Malachy, also called the Prophecy of Popes, and the cult of the ancient obscure god Moloch... St. Malachy=Moloch...What agenda?
Nevermind.
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Come on, people. There are a lot more important problems than the holocaust to worry about. We have to end apartheid for one. And slow down the nuclear arms race, stop terrorism and world hunger. We have to provide food and shelter for the homeless, and oppose racial discrimination and promote civil rights, while also promoting equal rights for women. We have to encourage a return to traditional moral values. Most importantly, we have to promote general social concern and less materialism in young people.
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Bateman?
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Bateman?
(http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7600000/Paul-Allen-or-Patrick-Bateman-american-psycho-7633749-402-300.jpg)
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Bateman?
Sorry guys, every answer I gave here or info I offered regarding this topic has been deleted (see my post counter), as I cannot be refuted.
Somebody is afraid of the truth, because it would change the world.
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There were many different types of people that died in nazi death camps. The fact that you can't have any type of discussion that questions the Jewish agenda and the Holocaust with out being labeled an anti semite goes to show how much they have influenced popular opinion regarding the matter, forget the facts ( or even asking a question) jews claim _______ so it must be true.
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There were many different types of people that died in nazi death camps. The fact that you can't have any type of discussion that questions the Jewish agenda and the Holocaust with out being labeled an anti semite goes to show how much they have influenced popular opinion regarding the matter, forget the facts ( or even asking a question) jews claim _______ so it must be true.
prepare to be stoned by angry mob
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Jews are retarded like all other religions. How can a Jew beleive that 6 million were killed in the holocaust and still believe in God? If God existed would he have let this happen? Of course the idiots will say it was God testing them or some bullshit.
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Jews are retarded like all other religions. How can a Jew beleive that 6 million were killed in the holocaust and still believe in God? If God existed would he have let this happen? Of course the idiots will say it was God testing them or some bullshit.
shark jumping territory right there.
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Dam nice arms on vic made me forget about the chick in the middle.
Your dead serious too - no way you check out a chick when there is a man near huh Twinkle toes ?!?!
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I'm always impressed how Ron really respects the idea of free speech. He lets crazy Muslims post here, Jew haters, etc... Our opinions speak for themselves.
It's good to know your enemies...And collect a database on them whenever possible...
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So I'm guessing Dorian Yates supplements aren't Kosher
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So I'm guessing Dorian Yates supplements aren't Kosher
(In my very bestest Larry the Cable Guy voice) "I don't care who ya are, that's funny!" ;D
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There were many different types of people that died in nazi death camps. The fact that you can't have any type of discussion that questions the Jewish agenda and the Holocaust with out being labeled an anti semite goes to show how much they have influenced popular opinion regarding the matter, forget the facts ( or even asking a question) jews claim _______ so it must be true.
This is true, most of the time it is talked about it is also mentioned that not just Jews died. What is the so called Jewish agenda?
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Hes been into all kinds of conspiracy theories of late, needs to lay off the drugs.
this.
yates has been going off about conspiracy theories for awhile now. last i heard he was telling people not to drink tap water because of the fluoride; said it would fuck up your 3rd eye.
i guess yates just started using google recently.
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this.
yates has been going off about conspiracy theories for awhile now. last i heard he was telling people not to drink tap water because of the fluoride; said it would fuck up your 3rd eye.
i guess yates just started using google recently.
He has been posting on getbig under the "lifteatsleeprepeat" gimmick and following wiggs/falcons posts very closely.
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The Holocaust really happened, but it was not what many think it was, it was way worse actually... The truth is that around 18 millions of Protestants, Orthodox, Christians, ethnic Jews and other minor groups were burned alive in ovens between Poland and Russia, by Catholic dictators Hitler and Stalin... Two puppets in the hands of the Vatican, where Pope Pius XII (Eugenio Pacelli) and Count Wlodimir Ledochowski (Jesuit superior general) ordered the start of the "Final Solution"... They were burn in the five most important camps, Auschwitz, Lodz (sacrificing childrens also), Treblinka, Sobibór and Janowska, with priests chanting 24 hours on 24... It was not a matter of racism between Nazis and Jews, that's the bullshit story they told us, but it was a big religion human mass sacrifice, like many in our history, just the biggest one ever... The Vatican main role in this was and is still kept secret...
Tell me Alex Jones, why did the head Rabbi of Rome in WWII convert to Catholicism after the war ended?
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Tell me Alex Jones, why did the head Rabbi of Rome in WWII convert to Catholicism after the war ended?
dont know, so Aliens.
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7.
7 Jews.
You sarcastic bastard. In my teens I volunteered at the Holocaust memorial center. I met several survivors and a consistent characteristic shared among them was their love and appreciation for life. My grandfather having fought in WWII, I was pretty familiar with the subject.
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Whatsbthe differennce btw a boyscout and a jewish boy?
The boyscout returns home from the camp
I'm sure Ron and OMR think that is hysterical >:(!
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I'm sure Ron and OMR think that is hysterical >:(!
ok
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Dorian was always an independent thinker.
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Tell me Alex Jones, why did the head Rabbi of Rome in WWII convert to Catholicism after the war ended?
Do you know who the Rabbi are? They are Sarmatian, loyal to the Vatican and Roman Cult since the 13th Century... They were the only Jews saved and protected during the Vatican Holocaust of WW2... Sorry, no Alex Jones disinfo bullshits here...
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Do you know who the Rabbi are? They are Sarmatian, loyal to the Vatican and Roman Cult since the 13th Century...
LOL are you retarted?
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Wow, so many soap boxes in one thread.
I take all data with a pinch of salt. Back in those days how on earth could they verify anything ? the whole of Europe was decimated and fragmented.
All I know is, that since the twin towers I question absolutely everything and always keep an open mind on who the media tells us is "The Bad Guy" and then look above at whom owns that media.
Everyone is pro-this or anti-that, you have to overcome the story tellers to find the absolute truth.
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Up next on 'Musclemen talk history'...
Chris Cormier talks about the Cuban missile crisis.
Aaron 'Mr Intensity' Maddron discusses East African politics from 1979 - 1984.
Steve Namat looks at the emergence of growing third world economies and asks 'what is driving them?'.
Jason Huh examines the repercussions of the Khmer Rouge on 20th century East Asian feminism.
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Wow, so many soap boxes in one thread.
I take all data with a pinch of salt. Back in those days how on earth could they verify anything ? the whole of Europe was decimated and fragmented.
All I know is, that since the twin towers I question absolutely everything and always keep an open mind on who the media tells us is "The Bad Guy" and then look above at whom owns that media.
Everyone is pro-this or anti-that, you have to overcome the story tellers to find the absolute truth.
the truth is almost always somewhere in the middle.
you have two(or more) stories from two viewpoints and two biases..... you have to find the middle ground.
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Ask yourself - how did WWII get started. Who pushed the Germans into a desperate corner. I'll give you all a clue, they are a powerful lobby group in the USA.
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Ask yourself - how did WWII get started. Who pushed the Germans into a desperate corner. I'll give you all a clue, they are a powerful lobby group in the USA.
hahaha elephant in the room
i didnt want to say it
(http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/WWII-JEWBANKERS-WAR-650.jpg)
http://incogman.net/2011/07/international-jew-bankers-behind-wwii/
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I don't like the fact western blood is spilled to clear out Israel's back yard.
We have f*ck all business out there with those peasant people - but they are volatile and pissed their land has been taken from them.
It's no coincidence there is there is massive oil fields there though isn't it ?
And it's the Rothchild's and his relatives that incidentally own the oil companies (as well as the banks and control the price of gold).
My best friend at work is Jewish, and it disgusts him. He hates Israel and their cuckoo approach.
We are all earthlings and should get along.
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these jews got tons of money :-\
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Up next on 'Musclemen talk history'...
Chris Cormier talks about the Cuban missile crisis.
Aaron 'Mr Intensity' Maddron discusses East African politics from 1979 - 1984.
Steve Namat looks at the emergence of growing third world economies and asks 'what is driving them?'.
Jason Huh examines the repercussions of the Khmer Rouge on 20th century East Asian feminism.
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Vince Goodrum will discuss sound financial planning.
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This whole thread was started because of comments made by Dorian on his Facebook stating the Holocaust was either exaggerated or denied that it ever happened. He was either a Skinhead or Neo Nazi in his teenage years. Of course the thread gets derailed by whether the actual amount of Jews exterminated was exaggerated. The bottom line is if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck!
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if Dorian was a getbigger he should just reply with
"essay meltdown, didn't read.
I bet you're the type of guy that gets feelings "hurt" over words on the internet. hahaha gayer than milking a cow manually
P.S are there things? "
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Everything in life gets exaggerated life up ten people and whisper a story in their ears by the time it gets to the tenth person you will see that there has being a few changes to the story.
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dont know, so Aliens.
lolz
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The interesting thing about Dorian saying history is fake is that he himself is guilty of it. Ask him what his stacks were in the 90's and you will see what I mean. This guy has the balls to say he did no more than a gram or two a week. lmao. He's straight out distorting reality. And lets not forgot the lies he's telling through selling snake oil to unknown customers...
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LOL are you retarted?
LOL do you know history?
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As good as Yates was as a bodybuilder, the guy has lost his mind. He has been banging on about every conspiracy theory in the book for the last few years... He is one step away from telling people he has been abducted by aliens.
Its funny that people (usually bodybuilders who look up to him) are willing to give his views credence because he was Mr Olympia, as if that counts for anything when discussing anything other than bodybuilding. lol
Great bodybuilder but one step from the nuthouse...
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Its funny that people (usually bodybuilders who look up to him) are willing to give his views credence because he was Mr Olympia, as if that counts for anything when discussing anything other than bodybuilding. lol
ROFL... He's Dorian Yates for gods sake...
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Dorian is very bright. I have a REALLY hard time thinking he would say something like this did'nt happen. He can be hard to fully understand because he does in fact not say much at all at times. But i just think he is shy. The dude will not say anything bad about anyone if you don't attack him first. I am sure all he meant is that most history is exaggereted. Nothing more or less. I promise you he have nothing against jews!
Dorian is bright as witnessed by his Facebook post. Being a great Bodybuilder does not equate to being bright.
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if Dorian was a getbigger he should just reply with
"essay meltdown, didn't read.
I bet you're the type of guy that gets feelings "hurt" over words on the internet. hahaha gayer than milking a cow manually
P.S are there things? "
Hi Dorian.
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Dorian is bright as witnessed by his Facebook post. Being a great Bodybuilder does not equate to being bright.
If you actually read his post he never said that it was faked or didn't happen, btw. Reading comprehension is not your friend.
You're inferring that he said it... but he never actually said it.
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If you actually read his post he never said that it was faked or didn't happen, btw. Reading comprehension is not your friend.
You're inferring that he said it... but he never actually said it.
He was certainly implying something.
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If you actually read his post he never said that it was faked or didn't happen, btw. Reading comprehension is not your friend.
You're inferring that he said it... but he never actually said it.
So why don't you tell us what he meant!
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So why don't you tell us what he meant!
I don't know what he meant. He was commenting on someone elses writing. And his statement was that "most of history is a lie".
I have no clue what he was implying.
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I don't know what he meant. He was commenting on someone elses writing. And his statement was that "most of history is a lie".
I have no clue what he was implying.
Ronnie made a reasonable inference, guy. Why you giving him grief? Dorian knew what he was suggesting, it's dishonest to ignore what he implied.
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Ronnie made a reasonable inference, guy. Why you giving him grief? Dorian knew what he was suggesting, it's dishonest to ignore what he implied.
its a bit of a stretch to go from 'most of histoey is a lie' to that equating he feels the Holocaust was faked or didnt happen.
Id take it to mean any numbers of things.... could have been exaggerated, could have had parts falsified, etc etc.
im giving him grief cause this is getbig its fun,, and he gives doz grief for conspiracy theories ,yet hes out spouting the imminent collapse of the US
really I dont care buy many people are wanting to string dorian uo by the balls for an extremely vague and cryptic comment when none of us really have any clue what hes rrally meaning.
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hahaha elephant in the room
i didnt want to say it
(http://incogman.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/WWII-JEWBANKERS-WAR-650.jpg)
http://incogman.net/2011/07/international-jew-bankers-behind-wwii/
Much more like "idiot in the room". I mean when you guys will grow up and start asking some evidence, when you find bunch of stupid lies which are clearly just insane crap, made by insane idiots. Are you telling me that you prefer believe known retard and mental patient like incogman.net rather than testifies of the hundred of thousands eyewitnesses? Sorry to disappoint all you little Nazis and assholes, but fact of the matter is very simple: Holocaust revisionists/denialist's hasn't have single real evidence to show to back up their stories. Do you understand? Read carefully and slowly: there is not even single real evidence that holocaust did not happen in the way it is written in the history. That should make you wonder why not. Well, you can prove only truth to be a truth, but proving fiction to be the truth isn't easy.
This is common factor when you guys are solving wonders of the earth, foil hat lies or holocaust denialism. If there is the truth in the matter, there has to be some evidence, so ask them to show that. If you don't see even one, it has to be lie. Very simple. I have been asking evidence about the explosions in the 9/11 "controlled demolition", "pentagon missile", holocaust denialism or the moon hoax, and never seen even one. Why? Because there isn't even one, because those stories are all lies. And because of that, the foil hat idiots strategy is asking evidence for these facts which are written in the history, and denying all of them without any counter-evidence. Can you even imagine how fucking stupid that is? Presenting stupid claims doesn't prove anything else than the fact that you are an idiot ;D
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Talking about the Holocaust. If anyone of you are interested in reading a first hand account, I can highly recommend 'Eyewitness Auschwitzh' by Filip Muller. If only 10% of any of the book is true, the horror is still beyond comprehension. This thread encouraged me to dig it out and been reading for a good few hours today.
You can probably pick it up for pennies on Amazon. The writing style can be a bit cheesy (written in the 70s and translated to English) and there's a huge onslaught against the truths in the book (though none of the naysayers can provide factual evidence to proof Muller is lying), but it's still worth reading.
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Much more like "idiot in the room". I mean when you guys will grow up and start asking some evidence, when you find bunch of stupid lies which are clearly just insane crap, made by insane idiots. Are you telling me that you prefer believe known retard and mental patient like incogman.net rather than testifies of the hundred of thousands eyewitnesses? Sorry to disappoint all you little Nazis and assholes, but fact of the matter is very simple: Holocaust revisionists/denialist's hasn't have single real evidence to show to back up their stories. Do you understand? Read carefully and slowly: there is not even single real evidence that holocaust did not happen in the way it is written in the history. That should make you wonder why not. Well, you can prove only truth to be a truth, but proving fiction to be the truth isn't easy.
This is common factor when you guys are solving wonders of the earth, foil hat lies or holocaust denialism. If there is the truth in the matter, there has to be some evidence, so ask them to show that. If you don't see even one, it has to be lie. Very simple. I have been asking evidence about the explosions in the 9/11 "controlled demolition", "pentagon missile", holocaust denialism or the moon hoax, and never seen even one. Why? Because there isn't even one, because those stories are all lies. And because of that, the foil hat idiots strategy is asking evidence for these facts which are written in the history, and denying all of them without any counter-evidence. Can you even imagine how fucking stupid that is? Presenting stupid claims doesn't prove anything else than the fact that you are an idiot ;D
did you even read it gloria?
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Talking about the Holocaust. If anyone of you are interested in reading a first hand account, I can highly recommend 'Eyewitness Auschwitzh' by Filip Muller. If only 10% of any of the book is true, the horror is still beyond comprehension. This thread encouraged me to dig it out and been reading for a good few hours today.
You can probably pick it up for pennies on Amazon. The writing style can be a bit cheesy (written in the 70s and translated to English) and there's a huge onslaught against the truths in the book (though none of the naysayers can provide factual evidence to proof Muller is lying), but it's still worth reading.
In my teens I volunteered at the Holocaust Memorial Center where I spoke with actual survivors. They know what they saw and experienced. These survivors were in their late teens and twenties at the time and not young children.
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This whole thread was started because of comments made by Dorian on his Facebook stating the Holocaust was either exaggerated or denied that it ever happened. He was either a Skinhead or Neo Nazi in his teenage years. Of course the thread gets derailed by whether the actual amount of Jews exterminated was exaggerated. The bottom line is if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck!
Lets see now.... you don't even know what Dorian said, but you have a strong opinion about it ::)
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Much more like "idiot in the room". I mean when you guys will grow up and start asking some evidence, when you find bunch of stupid lies which are clearly just insane crap, made by insane idiots. Are you telling me that you prefer believe known retard and mental patient like incogman.net rather than testifies of the hundred of thousands eyewitnesses? Sorry to disappoint all you little Nazis and assholes, but fact of the matter is very simple: Holocaust revisionists/denialist's hasn't have single real evidence to show to back up their stories. Do you understand? Read carefully and slowly: there is not even single real evidence that holocaust did not happen in the way it is written in the history. That should make you wonder why not. Well, you can prove only truth to be a truth, but proving fiction to be the truth isn't easy.
This is common factor when you guys are solving wonders of the earth, foil hat lies or holocaust denialism. If there is the truth in the matter, there has to be some evidence, so ask them to show that. If you don't see even one, it has to be lie. Very simple. I have been asking evidence about the explosions in the 9/11 "controlled demolition", "pentagon missile", holocaust denialism or the moon hoax, and never seen even one. Why? Because there isn't even one, because those stories are all lies. And because of that, the foil hat idiots strategy is asking evidence for these facts which are written in the history, and denying all of them without any counter-evidence. Can you even imagine how fucking stupid that is? Presenting stupid claims doesn't prove anything else than the fact that you are an idiot ;D
You must be a real retard, there a groups of fucking engineers who have provided analysis on how WTC was a planned implosion.
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its a bit of a stretch to go from 'most of histoey is a lie' to that equating he feels the Holocaust was faked or didnt happen.
Id take it to mean any numbers of things.... could have been exaggerated, could have had parts falsified, etc etc.
im giving him grief cause this is getbig its fun,, and he gives doz grief for conspiracy theories ,yet hes out spouting the imminent collapse of the US
really I dont care buy many people are wanting to string dorian uo by the balls for an extremely vague and cryptic comment when none of us really have any clue what hes rrally meaning.
You truly are fucking delusional, Dorian's past speaks for itself he admittedly was a Skinhead in his teens. What do you think he was intimating?
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A lot of people witnessed the most horrible atrocities during WWII. Where are their museums and memorials?
They all have stories that contribute to history and deserve to have those stories told.
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I'm more concerned of the fact that you can't question it AT ALL. It's 'anti-Semitic' or 'racist' to do so. You're stopped from asking questions or pointing anything out. You're immediately classed as a heretic and insulted. That alone really gets my interest and start questioning things.
I've been to Auschwitz. September 2010. Things happened there. People died. How many died I don't know. Could be 1000s, could be millions.
But classing me as 'anti-Semitic' because I or others dare talking about it ... go fuck yourself with a retractable baton.
exactly
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exactly
ditto
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You truly are fucking delusional, Dorian's past speaks for itself he admittedly was a Skinhead in his teens. What do you think he was intimating?
in his teens yes, . People can change
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Fake it til you make it.
Oh wait, wrong thread.
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in his teens yes, . People can change
Yes, but apparently not in his case.
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You truly are fucking delusional, Dorian's past speaks for itself he admittedly was a Skinhead in his teens. What do you think he was intimating?
Nein!!! He was a skin , big difference to modern day skin heads that follow neo nazi teachings - before presenting an argument get
your facts straight first :)
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Do not use jew for the corrupt power behind our world's demise - a normal jew is like any other "model" citizen.
It's a trap by the choo actors in power to dignify their malevolence directed towards the western and eastern hemisphere.
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Nein!!! He was a skin , big difference to modern day skin heads that follow neo nazi teachings - before presenting an argument get
your facts straight first :)
Skin head, Neo Nazi, KKK, it's all based on hate, and ignorance!
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Skin head, Neo Nazi, KKK, it's all based on hate, and ignorance!
But skins which Dorian was, are not - Original skins were into ska music and loosely tied with punk rockers.
Dorian was and still is a huge fan of one Robert Nesta Marley , Reggae had it's beginnings from ska music , Bob was
black by the way - Dorians best friend through his youth was a black man and also a "skin" - you need to learn alternative
English culture .
Totally understand the confusion with the shaved heads and Doc Martin boots - this was typical Skin dress code - Soccer hooligans
are where the racist part and skins came together - Dorian was not and never has been tied to neo nazi skinheads.
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But skins which Dorian was, are not - Original skins were into ska music and loosely tied with punk rockers.
Dorian was and still is a huge fan of one Robert Nesta Marley , Reggae had it's beginnings from ska music , Bob was
black by the way - Dorians best friend through his youth was a black man and also a "skin" - you need to learn alternative
English culture .
Totally understand the confusion with the shaved heads and Doc Martin boots - this was typical Skin dress code - Soccer hooligans
are where the racist part and skins came together - Dorian was not and never has been tied to neo nazi skinheads.
don't bother, dude has already made his snap judgment without knowing wtf he's talking about. Which tells us much more about him than Dorian, lulz.
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But skins which Dorian was, are not - Original skins were into ska music and loosely tied with punk rockers.
Dorian was and still is a huge fan of one Robert Nesta Marley , Reggae had it's beginnings from ska music , Bob was
black by the way - Dorians best friend through his youth was a black man and also a "skin" - you need to learn alternative
English culture .
Totally understand the confusion with the shaved heads and Doc Martin boots - this was typical Skin dress code - Soccer hooligans
are where the racist part and skins came together - Dorian was not and never has been tied to neo nazi skinheads.
And not to say skins and punks were angels - they were rebellious and thumbed there nose at authority , rioting and hurling the odd
brick through windows - the whole anarchy scene through the 70s in England was all about rebelling - this is where real skins were born..
As I said above it was once soccer hooligans started to adopt the skins code of dress that the real skin head/neo nazi movement rose - Dorian was
not apart of this..
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don't bother, dude has already made his snap judgment without knowing wtf he's talking about. Which tells us much more about him than Dorian, lulz.
I gathered that with most of the negative comments toward Doz..No one has actually read what he said.
You did and said it right here ;)
If you actually read his post he never said that it was faked or didn't happen, btw. Reading comprehension is not your friend.
You're inferring that he said it... but he never actually said it.
(http://i.imgur.com/78AULxk.jpg?1)
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Dorian is entitled to think what he wants. Who gives a fuck. No one has to think the same way as you
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Dorian is entitled to think what he wants. Who gives a fuck. No one has to think the same way as you
X2
But it's "BB related" ::)
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don't bother, dude has already made his snap judgment without knowing wtf he's talking about. Which tells us much more about him than Dorian, lulz.
You no absolutely nothing about me! Who is making snap judgments now? I have met Dorian I liked him. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt!
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You must be a real retard, there a groups of fucking engineers who have provided analysis on how WTC was a planned implosion.
Easy to say, but even those fucking engineers hasn't been able to point out even one real explosion from any 9/11 video. If you read that bullshit they has provided, you should realize that their analysis doesn't include any evidence, only some completely stupid claims. There is not even one sentence which they present as a fact, based on real evidence, and claims doesn't prove anything. If I am wrong, please show me the evidence? That should be easy?
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You no absolutely nothing about me! Who is making snap judgments now? I have met Dorian I liked him. I usually give people the benefit of the doubt!
lol. Not in this thread you're not.
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Skin head, Neo Nazi, KKK, it's all based on hate, and ignorance!
Yes true...But many others believe they are the chosen people and everyone else is beneath them. I don't think it's possible for a group of people/s to think they are the chosen people without having absolute disgust of all other people. In other words, any group of people who believe they are the chosen people(above any other people) have to be rotten in their core...
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Epic retards in this thread - he has a bald head "HE IS A NAZI"!!!!
Guess most pro bodybuilders are Nazi's then ???
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I hear that many Jews think of non- Jews as subhuman, is this true?
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I hear that many Jews think of non- Jews as subhuman, is this true?
yes it is.
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yes it is.
So they think they are the master race?
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Yes true...But many others believe they are the chosen people and everyone else is beneath them. I don't think it's possible for a group of people/s to think they are the chosen people without having absolute disgust of all other people. In other words, any group of people who believe they are the chosen people(above any other people) have to be rotten in their core...
Well that's a ridiculous leap, generalization, stereotype!
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Well that's a ridiculous leap, generalization, stereotype!
You should know ::)
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Yes, but apparently not in his case.
and mixing english i0s and 80s skinhead movement with nazis shows that you dont know shit sir
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Dorian is entitled to think what he wants. Who gives a fuck. No one has to think the same way as you
Thats pretty much the truth in a nutshell.
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WWII was caused by rich men manipulating the German economy in an attempt to destroy Germany. Hitler was created by these men. He was the human incarnation of their souls.
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So they think they are the master race?
yes, they do.
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I wonder, how many of you really feel bad about what happened to jews during WW2? I bet its mostly act.
My bet is, that secretly majority of people in Europe have no real problem with it. :-\
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I wonder, how many of you really feel bad about what happened to jews during WW2? I bet its mostly act.
My bet is, that secretly majority of people in Europe have no real problem with it. :-\
I don't like it when innocent people suffer, Jew or Christian or even Muslim.
But I have always found it ironic that a group considering themselves the master race (Jews) came to such a brutal encounter with another group calling themselves the master race (Nazis). Sort of like this meeting was pre-destined...
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I don't like it when innocent people suffer, Jew or Christian or even Muslim.
But I have always found it ironic that a group considering themselves the master race (Jews) came to such a brutal encounter with another group calling themselves the master race (Nazis). Sort of like this meeting was pre-destined...
You are spot on, it was sure thing that some kind of "clash" between jews and others will happen. People seem to forget that Jews were disliked almost everywhere in Europe. Mostly in countries with high population of them. When Germans liberated baltic states from USSR, local population targeted Jews. They were not forced to do it, they did it because of their experience with Jews. But always blame Germans. :-\
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When Pilate saw that he could not prevail at all, but rather that a tumult was rising, he took water and washed his hands and said, “I am innocent of the blood of this Just person. You see to it.” And all the people answered and said, “His blood be upon us and on our children.” (Matthew 27:24–25)
Some would say that verse 27 (emboldened above) is indicative of when things began to turn bad for the Jews, i.e., they took upon the death of Jesus in a far too personal manner even going so far as to include their heirs and were forever cursed for it.
As that is not the way of the Christ who came to complete the Word, I seriously doubt it. People are people, which is to say they're assholes and more often than not toward one another. Hitler was not a follow of the Christ and like so many men before and since did what he did for his own desires. He was an even bigger asshole than Nero.
As for Dorian, that the Holocaust happened is fact. To deny fact is to deny the truth and in doing so make a fool of oneself. Nothing is unforgiveable. Remember to forgive is divine but to remember is all too human.
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and mixing english i0s and 80s skinhead movement with nazis shows that you dont know shit sir
x2 - brutal display of infinite wisdom by our master.
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Up next on 'Musclemen talk history'...
Chris Cormier talks about the Cuban missile crisis.
Aaron 'Mr Intensity' Maddron discusses East African politics from 1979 - 1984.
Steve Namat looks at the emergence of growing third world economies and asks 'what is driving them?'.
Jason Huh examines the repercussions of the Khmer Rouge on 20th century East Asian feminism.
thread ender! ;D
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This thread proves my point, brings all the deep seated dislike for Jews in 2014?
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Well that's a ridiculous leap, generalization, stereotype!
Actually there is a growing number of "black" people who believe they are the chosen people. I'm not just talking about the ones you think i'm talking about. In India there are many that believe they are the chosen people...All i'm saying is that any group of people who think they are the chosen people have to be rotten in their core. There's no other way around it...
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Dorian is entitled to think what he wants. Who gives a fuck. No one has to think the same way as you
I personally don't give a fuck what Dorian thinks. From a business standpoint, not a very smart thing to infer!
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I personally don't give a fuck what Dorian thinks. From a business standpoint, not a very smart thing to infer!
I think you mean imply.
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I think you mean imply.
My mistake!
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x2 - brutal display of infinite wisdom by our master.
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Thats my kim jong il smiley saying thanks
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GLR: "The Numbers Have Been Completely Falsified"
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Epic backfire thread.
1) Dorian was not a Nazi of any kind.
2) Numbers "claimed" dead have been massively over-exaggerated for political gain.
3) Wealthy American Jews started the war.
4) Jews believe "they" are superior race.
Thanks for the education guys.
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Epic backfire thread.
1) Dorian was not a Nazi of any kind.
2) Numbers "claimed" dead have been massively over-exaggerated for political gain.
3) Wealthy American Jews started the war.
4) Jews believe "they" are superior race.
Thanks for the education guys.
As opposed to just exaggerated. Fantastic.
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At the end of the day, Dorian fucked and/or defiled Milos' wife. So who really cares what he thinks about the Holocaust?
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At the end of the day, Dorian fucked and/or defiled Milos' wife. So who really cares what he thinks about the Holocaust?
Lol, random factoid.
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As opposed to just exaggerated. Fantastic.
Good catch champ!
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Good catch champ!
Got yer back, stud.
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Epic backfire thread.
EXTREMELY wealthy and POWERFUL American international Jews started the war - And financed BOTH sides of the conflict, INCLUDING HITLER AND THE NAZIS.
Jews believe "they" are [the] superior race.
1) The Jew holds himself separate from the nations, not primarily for ideological reasons as prescribed in the Old Testament. Rather, the Jew remains aloof from all others because he sees himself as belonging to an elite.
2) The Jew may proclaim and propagandize though his monopoly of the Media the slogan, “Diversity Is Our Strength!” Yet the Jew will never live in a neighborhood where poor Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics live. Why not? Because the Jew despises working class folk as being culturally inferior to him and socially impotent.
3) The Jew at heart despises the ideal of the “Brotherhood of Man.” For it is only through acceptance of Jesus Christ, the Christian Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the “new man in Christ” that the Brotherhood of Man can be realized.
4) The Jew wants nothing to do with Jesus Christ, the Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the new man in Christ. Why not? First because Jesus Christ calls all men to repent which the Jew finds repulsive; Second because the Church with its eyes set on the kingdom to come is disagreeable to the Jew who seeks a kingdom of this world; Third because the new man in Christ whereby all elitist distinctions are dissolved, is an identity the Jew finds repugnant to his love of ’separateness’ and control over others.
5) The Jew, through his monopoly of the Media, the Judicial System, and Academia, wars against Christianity. Why? Because Christianity indicts the Jew as being unrepentant. This puts the Jew in a position of weakness and beholden to the dictates of the Christian. The Jew considers this the greatest of all calamities.
6) The Jew falsely believes that he is part of the “chosen people.” Thus the Jew deems that he has the “divine right” to have his “rights” implemented and secured. In fact, the Jew with his yiddishee chutzpah demands this.What are the Jew’s rights as he perceives them? First and primarily, that the world around him should conform to his point of view and to his point of view only.
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1) Dorian was not a Nazi of any kind.
2) Numbers "claimed" dead have been massively over-exaggerated for political gain.
3) Wealthy American Jews started the war.
4) Jews believe "they" are superior race.
true dat
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all soldiers have always been mercenaries serving knowingly -or not- the elites interests...
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As i already said, 18 millions of innocents were burned alive in ovens, during WW2... Vatican and Jesuits as the main perpetrators... Jews were sacrificed also, a lot of them, but not the Sarmatians/Samaritans (Rabbi)... You have to search for the connection between the Vatican and Samaritan Jews, and their pagan/evil cults of Cybele, Moloch and other evil gods... And Hitler, Stalin, Himmler and others were all Catholic Priests in the hands of the Vatican/Jesuits... SS (Sedes Sacrorum/Knights of the Holy See) were non other than a Roman Catholic Church military and spiritual order, founded by Archbishop Cardinal Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and Wlodimir Ledochowski (Jesuit Superior General) during 1933 Reich Concordat... As a military order they had the power to wage constant Holy Inquisition (another expedient for burning innocents alive to their pagan gods, against witch and evil people my ass) against heretics, with assassinations, torture and counter-intelligence... As a spiritual order they had the Roman Catholic grace of being forgiven all their mortal sins... Believe what you want, if you are interested you can research this stuff...
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Epic backfire thread.
1) Dorian was not a Nazi of any kind.
2) Numbers "claimed" dead have been massively over-exaggerated for political gain.
3) Wealthy American Jews started the war.
4) Jews believe "they" are superior race.
Thanks for the education guys.
And what you do if I ask you to present some evidence to prove those claims?
1) Scream like a retard whose balls are squeezed with the vise
2) Call me stupid
3) Go through some kind of idiotic meltdown
4) Go to ask your mom what word "evidence" means
5) Just shit in your pants and enjoy the momentary heat it will deliver
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And what you do if I ask you to present some evidence to prove those claims?
1) Scream like a retard whose balls are squeezed with the vise
2) Call me stupid
3) Go through some kind of idiotic meltdown
4) Go to ask your mom what word "evidence" means
5) Just shit in your pants and enjoy the momentary heat it will deliver
CAN YOU SUCCESSFULLY REFUTE THESE TRUTHS?
EXTREMELY wealthy and POWERFUL international Jews started the war - And financed BOTH sides of the conflict, INCLUDING HITLER AND THE NAZIS.
Jews believe "they" are [the] superior race.
1) The Jew holds himself separate from the nations, not primarily for ideological reasons as prescribed in the Old Testament. Rather, the Jew remains aloof from all others because he sees himself as belonging to an elite.
2) The Jew may proclaim and propagandize though his monopoly of the Media the slogan, “Diversity Is Our Strength!” Yet the Jew will never live in a neighborhood where poor Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics live. Why not? Because the Jew despises working class folk as being culturally inferior to him and socially impotent.
3) The Jew at heart despises the ideal of the “Brotherhood of Man.” For it is only through acceptance of Jesus Christ, the Christian Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the “new man in Christ” that the Brotherhood of Man can be realized.
4) The Jew wants nothing to do with Jesus Christ, the Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the new man in Christ. Why not? First because Jesus Christ calls all men to repent which the Jew finds repulsive; Second because the Church with its eyes set on the kingdom to come is disagreeable to the Jew who seeks a kingdom of this world; Third because the new man in Christ whereby all elitist distinctions are dissolved, is an identity the Jew finds repugnant to his love of ’separateness’ and control over others.
5) The Jew, through his monopoly of the Media, the Judicial System, and Academia, wars against Christianity. Why? Because Christianity indicts the Jew as being unrepentant. This puts the Jew in a position of weakness and beholden to the dictates of the Christian. The Jew considers this the greatest of all calamities.
6) The Jew falsely believes that he is part of the “chosen people.” Thus the Jew deems that he has the “divine right” to have his “rights” implemented and secured. In fact, the Jew with his yiddishee chutzpah demands this.What are the Jew’s rights as he perceives them? First and primarily, that the world around him should conform to his point of view and to his point of view only.
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Benny b on his way to being benny banned once again.
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Eustace Mullins did some great work on the issues of who seems to be in power - "The World Order" for example delivers some interesting insight.
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As i already said, 18 millions of innocents were burned alive in ovens, during WW2... Vatican and Jesuits as the main perpetrators... Jews were sacrificed also, a lot of them, but not the Sarmatians/Samaritans (Rabbi)... You have to search for the connection between the Vatican and Samaritan Jews, and their pagan/evil cults of Cybele, Moloch and other evil gods... And Hitler, Stalin, Himmler and others were all Catholic Priests in the hands of the Vatican/Jesuits... SS (Sedes Sacrorum/Knights of the Holy See) were non other than a Roman Catholic Church military and spiritual order, founded by Archbishop Cardinal Pacelli (Pope Pius XII) and Wlodimir Ledochowski (Jesuit Superior General) during 1933 Reich Concordat... As a military order they had the power to wage constant Holy Inquisition (another expedient for burning innocents alive to their pagan gods, against witch and evil people my ass) against heretics, with assassinations, torture and counter-intelligence... As a spiritual order they had the Roman Catholic grace of being forgiven all their mortal sins... Believe what you want, if you are interested you can research this stuff...
Where was all the coke to support that?
When 2100 tonnes of coke is required to burn 30 000 - 40 000 people?
So for 18 million people to be burned in ovens that requires 420 000 tonnes of coke.
Thats a lot of coke, where are the pictures and evidence to support the massive procurement of coke to burn people in ovens?
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18 millions of innocents were burned alive in ovens, during WW2
Where are you getting this 18 million BS? That would mean that for every single day of WWII there were 12,329 people killed in ovens.
To put your numbers in perspective, the USSR had the highest WWII casualties with 13.6 million killed. So you are saying that more people were killed in ovens than the entire USSR war casualties?
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CAN YOU SUCCESSFULLY REFUTE THESE TRUTHS?
EXTREMELY wealthy and POWERFUL international Jews started the war - And financed BOTH sides of the conflict, INCLUDING HITLER AND THE NAZIS.
Jews believe "they" are [the] superior race.
1) The Jew holds himself separate from the nations, not primarily for ideological reasons as prescribed in the Old Testament. Rather, the Jew remains aloof from all others because he sees himself as belonging to an elite.
2) The Jew may proclaim and propagandize though his monopoly of the Media the slogan, “Diversity Is Our Strength!” Yet the Jew will never live in a neighborhood where poor Blacks, Asians, and Hispanics live. Why not? Because the Jew despises working class folk as being culturally inferior to him and socially impotent.
3) The Jew at heart despises the ideal of the “Brotherhood of Man.” For it is only through acceptance of Jesus Christ, the Christian Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the “new man in Christ” that the Brotherhood of Man can be realized.
4) The Jew wants nothing to do with Jesus Christ, the Church, and the Christian Universal vision of the new man in Christ. Why not? First because Jesus Christ calls all men to repent which the Jew finds repulsive; Second because the Church with its eyes set on the kingdom to come is disagreeable to the Jew who seeks a kingdom of this world; Third because the new man in Christ whereby all elitist distinctions are dissolved, is an identity the Jew finds repugnant to his love of ’separateness’ and control over others.
5) The Jew, through his monopoly of the Media, the Judicial System, and Academia, wars against Christianity. Why? Because Christianity indicts the Jew as being unrepentant. This puts the Jew in a position of weakness and beholden to the dictates of the Christian. The Jew considers this the greatest of all calamities.
6) The Jew falsely believes that he is part of the “chosen people.” Thus the Jew deems that he has the “divine right” to have his “rights” implemented and secured. In fact, the Jew with his yiddishee chutzpah demands this.What are the Jew’s rights as he perceives them? First and primarily, that the world around him should conform to his point of view and to his point of view only.
Easily. First what you has to understand, is the fact, that all those 6 claims are based completely on pure anti-Semitism and lies. Look at the history books, they tell you complete different story than neo- Nazi websites. Pull your head out from your ass and realize, that Nazi bastards and their web sites aren't exactly the source of the absolute truth in any matter regarding jews. It is just same than go to southern states and ask Bubba the Ku Klux Klan idiot what he think about negros. If you would have any sort of brains, you would wonder where is all the evidence to prove those claims you presented to the facts. You haven't and that's why I try to beat that idea in your thick head, so at the future you shouldn't wonder when you see those foil hat lies.
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Where was all the coke to support that?
When 2100 tonnes of coke is required to burn 30 000 - 40 000 people?
So for 18 million people to be burned in ovens that requires 420 000 tonnes of coke.
Thats a lot of coke, where are the pictures and evidence to support the massive procurement of coke to burn people in ovens?
Nazis had no difficulties obtaining coke around all Europe, at all... All the proofs abot that crime, except one, and Vatican/Jesuit involvement were all covered by Allies...Where are you getting this 18 million BS? That would mean that for every single day of WWII there were 12,329 people killed in ovens.
To put your numbers in perspective, the USSR had the highest WWII casualties with 13.6 million killed. So you are saying that more people were killed in ovens than the entire USSR war casualties?
Remember that the five death camps were builded between Poland and Russia... Those 13.6 million "casualties" are probably part of those burned alive... I know that everything i said seems strange, stupid and not believable, but if you guys are interested you can research this stuff for yourselves...
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Easily. First what you has to understand, is the fact, that all those 6 claims are based completely on pure anti-Semitism and lies. Look at the history books, they tell you complete different story than neo- Nazi websites. Pull your head out from your ass and realize, that Nazi bastards and their web sites aren't exactly the source of the absolute truth in any matter regarding jews. It is just same than go to southern states and ask Bubba the Ku Klux Klan idiot what he think about negros. If you would have any sort of brains, you would wonder where is all the evidence to prove those claims you presented to the facts. You haven't and that's why I try to beat that idea in your thick head, so at the future you shouldn't wonder when you see those foil hat lies.
Still waiting for a substantive refutation of my post, "Ropo". ::) Your prolific use of insults and diversionary tactics does not negate the fact that you had six options to choose from, yet you failed to deconstruct a single one of them. This is because they are true.
Sorry, but those "claims" as you put them were made by anti-Zionist Khazar Jews who converted to Christianity. I do not frequent neo-Nazi or KKK websites. In addition, American/Israeli Jews are NOT Semitic people.
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Still waiting for a substantive refutation of my post, "Ropo". ::) Your prolific use of insults and diversionary tactics does not negate the fact that you had six options to choose from, yet you failed to deconstruct a single one of them. This is because they are true.
Sorry, but those "claims" as you put them were made by anti-Zionist Khazar Jews who converted to Christianity. I do not frequent neo-Nazi or KKK websites. In addition, American/Israeli Jews are NOT Semitic people.
If the claim has nothing to do with the reality, it doesn't matter who made it, because only thing it's proves is that he is mentally ill and furthermore, he have shit for brains. There is foil hat morons in every religion and color, so you have to think twice what you will believe and what not. You have to have some issues, because you are so eager to believe that crap, and I bet you are wanking off with the picture of Eva Braun ;D
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skinhead boot on his forearm:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-D4C1_534D29D4.jpg)
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And what you do if I ask you to present some evidence to prove those claims?
1) Scream like a retard whose balls are squeezed with the vise
2) Call me stupid
3) Go through some kind of idiotic meltdown
4) Go to ask your mom what word "evidence" means
5) Just shit in your pants and enjoy the momentary heat it will deliver
2) Call me stupid
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Still waiting for a substantive refutation of my post, "Ropo". ::) Your prolific use of insults and diversionary tactics does not negate the fact that you had six options to choose from, yet you failed to deconstruct a single one of them. This is because they are true.
Sorry, but those "claims" as you put them were made by anti-Zionist Khazar Jews who converted to Christianity. I do not frequent neo-Nazi or KKK websites. In addition, American/Israeli Jews are NOT Semitic people.
24k is that you?
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skinhead boot on his forearm:
(http://www.gratisimage.dk/image-D4C1_534D29D4.jpg)
FOURTH REICH FIGHTERS THATS WHAT WE ARE
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Didn't Realize Dorian was an 8th Grade School teacher in Southern California ???
Or is the teacher Getbigger Howard ??? ???
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/8th-grade-assignment-asks-students-argue-if-holoca/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/5/8th-grade-assignment-asks-students-argue-if-holoca/)
8th-grade assignment asks students to argue if Holocaust is fact or fiction
A Southern California school district is standing by an eighth-grade writing assignment that asked students to argue whether they believed the Holocaust was fact or fiction.
The Rialto Unified School District argues that the assignment was meant to teach students how to objectively evaluate conflicting opinions, the Los Angeles Daily News reported.
“When tragic events occur in history, there is often debate about their actual existence,” the assignment read. “For example, some people claim the Holocaust is not an actual historical event, but instead is a propaganda tool that was used for political and monetary gain. Based upon your research on this issue, write an argumentative essay, utilizing cited textual evidence, in which you explain whether or not you believe the Holocaust was an actual event in history, or merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain. Remember to address counterclaims (rebuttals) to your stated claim. You are also required to use parenthetical (internal) citations and to provide a Works Cited page.”
The Los Angeles-based Anti-Defamation League has spoken out against the district, but the district insists the assignment is part of the Common Core state standards meant to emphasize critical thinking.
“One of the most important responsibilities for educators is to develop critical thinking skills in students,” school board member Joe Martinez told The Daily News. “This will allow a person to come to their own conclusion. Current events are part of the basis for measuring IQ. The Middle East, Israel, Palestine and the Holocaust are on newscasts discussing current events. Teaching how to come to your own conclusion based on the facts, test your position, be able to articulate that position, then defend your belief with a lucid argument is essential to good citizenship.”
District spokeswoman Syeda Jafri told the paper: “There is no doubt the Holocaust was one of the most horrific, traumatic time-pieces in our history. We want our students to engage in developing critical thinking skills and have an in-depth perspective on the importance of the Holocaust. Although I received one email last week in reference to this subject, the district has not received any concerns about this writing prompt from any teachers, administrators or parents. However, due to its sensitive nature, we are always open to go back and examine the prompt.”
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Another holocaust fraud exposed.
http://nypost.com/2014/05/11/holocaust-scammer-to-owe-22-5m-for-bogus-memoir/
millionaires
and getbig mostly broke workers
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Another holocaust fraud exposed.
http://nypost.com/2014/05/11/holocaust-scammer-to-owe-22-5m-for-bogus-memoir/
The elite are robbing you blind. Everything they propagate is done with the intention to deceive and rob you.
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The elite are robbing you blind. Everything they propagate is done with the intention to deceive and rob you.
Can you tell me who "the elite" are, I would liike to keep an eye out for them so they dont rob me.
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People still debate whether or not we ever landed on the moon ~
That being said, there must not be many lifetime hardcore over-sized bodybuilders here who are nearing their fifties.
And by "hardcore" I mean boatloading dope far beyond what most guys would dare. I mean, truly, that's all a real contender for the O is... is someone who likes to push the envelope.
These guys get looney, much like lifetime Meth-heads. They are all over the place in conversations and paranoid/delusional schizophrenics.
More often than not, this is how they end up, unless somewhere along the line they wise up while they are still young and say "enough is enough"
And I could give a flying rat's ass if anyone doesn't believe me. I deal with these guys every fucking day. I can even see it coming as they age.
Play today. Pay tomorrow.
Wait... someone's following me... but at least my home gym is nicer than my bedroom.
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Can you tell me who "the elite" are, I would liike to keep an eye out for them so they dont rob me.
Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
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Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
so where do you fit in
seems its easy to put strangers in a category even though you know fuck all about them
despite all your rage you are still just a rat in a cage :-*
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Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
Where do you fit into that pyramid?
edt, great minds hey bigmc ;D
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Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
The real secret is none of that exists at all, not in the way you think it dioes, you have just been fed a line by some crackpot on a conspiracy theory website and fell for it hook line and sinker.
Dumb slave ;)
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so where do you fit in
seems its easy to put strangers in a category even though you know fuck all about them
despite all your rage you are still just a rat in a cage :-*
Yes of course I am on the bottom, but I am AWAKE.
Where do you fit into that pyramid?
edt, great minds hey bigmc ;D
See above.
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The real secret is none of that exists at all, not in the way you think it dioes, you have just been fed a line by some crackpot on a conspiracy theory website and fell for it hook line and sinker.
Dumb slave ;)
No, I have applied common sense, life experience and an analysis of historical events.
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Yes of course I am on the bottom, but I am AWAKE.
See above.
and by being awake
I take it you are doing something about it
something more concrete than moaning about it on here
otherwise that would mean you are even below the ignorant
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Yes of course I am on the bottom, but I am AWAKE terrified.
All you have done is read crackpot websites.
Tell me this, when did you supposedly "wake up"?
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No, I have applied common sense, life experience and an analysis of historical events.
You should try "Occams Razor"
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Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
Almost... Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bush family, most important politicians, and so on, are all Knights Of Malta (SMOM-Sovereign Military Order of Malta)... They are under the Vatican and Jesuits...
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Almost... Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bush family, most important politicians, and so on, are all Knights Of Malta (SMOM-Sovereign Military Order of Malta)... They are under the Vatican and Jesuits...
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Yes? Something to ask?
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Elite are the mega wealthy, Rockerfellers, Bill Gates etc. Plus the banks owned by Rockerfellers and co.
Under them the big corporations.
Under them the politicians.
Under them their lapdog servants the media, who are used to brainwash and controll the masses.
Under them, the masses- THE DUMB SLAVES - i.e. you.
How could you do a roll call of the world's wire pullers and leave the Bilderburg group?
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Yes? Something to ask?
No, it would be like trying to explain to the guy wearing the "the end is nigh" billboard that the world wasnt going to really end.
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It was donny that said that not dorian
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I spread the word, and every chance I get I do small things to work against the machine.
Open your eyes people. I started to understand these things BEFORE the internet was available. I watch the news, I can read between the lines. I have experience in the real world, I am close friends with people with close ties to politicians.
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Almost... Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Bush family, most important politicians, and so on, are all Knights Of Malta (SMOM-Sovereign Military Order of Malta)... They are under the Vatican and Jesuits...
You can never provide any evidence of these allegations. You are like "controlled opposition" - purposefully muddying the waters.