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Get him out of here
Get him out
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Man, the Airline industry....
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What did the guy do?
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What did the guy do?
He was unlucky enough to board the plane as a ticketed passenger.
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Good.
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He should have flown National.
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Good. Just because the guy is an alleged doctor doesn't make him more important than anyone else. When the pilot tells you to get off his plane you get off his plane. No need to be dragged out like a screaming child.
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They asked for 4 volunteers to give up their seats so that 4 United workers could get to their next job.
Nobody gave up their seats willingly 8)
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Man, the Airline industry....
The buses of the sky.
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The mangled glasses barely hanging off his face was priceless. PIP kemosabe
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Good. Just because the guy is an alleged doctor doesn't make him more important than anyone else. When the pilot tells you to get off his plane you get off his plane. No need to be dragged out like a screaming child.
I disagree with that. He paid his ticket and he had every right to stay on the plane. He'll definitely get a nice settlement for that.
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Freakin' hilarious! He was infuriated when he found out they wouldn't be serving dog on the plane.
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Was that guy a physician ?
He claimed to have patients in the morn after being 'randomly' selected to get off because the had to fly 4 crew members to St Louis ? Fck that , but they offer $800 to stay ,,, would of got me hella igf with that
That skinny 'brew would of put hands on my glasses he'd lost an eye
/prison rules
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Absolutely pathetic on United Airlines for this crap. United Airlines will be sued and lose a ton of money to any jury who see's this. And they should lose millions.
Simple process on airlines. Don't freaking overbook the flights.
Second process - first come, first serve. Not take passengers off the plane AFTER the are seated. They obviously knew about this earlier - so why wait until passengers are seated. They know exactly who seats where and how full they are.
Someone needs to get FIRED at United for this. And make sure it NEVER happens again.
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He'll get a chunk of money from United
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What did the guy do?
The airline booked all the seats, it then had a flight staff that needed to be in the planes destination , and if they could not get the airline staff on the flight it would cause more delays for other flights
so they asked all the passengers they needed 4 seats and asked who would volunteer to leave the flight
nobody agreed
they then offered $400 and a free hotel stay and flight the next day, nobody took it, they went to $600 nobody took it, went to $800 also nobody took it
they then went with a lotto draft and a couple got picked , they got up and left the plane, the next one was that guy, he refused to leave, said he was a Doctor and had patients to see.
so they dragged his ass out and and was bleeding all over the seats, so they made all passangers get off the plane to they could tidy up the plane again , was delayed for 2 hours so they could clean up his blood.
then he got back on the plane after all that
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Utter crap.
Like they do not have extra staff all over - they just didn't want to do a little calling to get them. Pathetic.
This statement from United says it all on how screwed up the PR person is.
"After looking for volunteers, one guy did not want to, so we BEAT THE CRAP OF HIM, as our policy dictates we are allowed to BEAT passengers up. Oops - we overbooked the flight, but didn't bother to follow standard procedure of first come, first server. Oh, here is the best part - after we beat him up, we let him and his wife back on the plane when we found a better way, like actually calling the hundreds of people we have, but didn't want to pay them extra and overtime there"
United Airlines has always been bad, but this takes the cake.
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New United Seating Chart:
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United is going to lose and big time on this
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
Nowhere in their Contract does it say once you are seated, they can remove you. They can only deny you boarding. Forcibly removing someone is assault, and sad
Time to BOYCOTT UNITED and their 'who gives a shit' employees.
Oh, they offered $800 and no one took it. Because they were ALL on the plane already. Offer it before they get on. And a simple move would be to offer more money, $ 1,200 or $ 1,500. I bet if they raised it, they would of got what they need rather than beating up a paying customer.
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Holy Shit, they just released a new angle!!! Great Footage!
https://youtu.be/J9neFAM4uZM?t=278 (https://youtu.be/J9neFAM4uZM?t=278)
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Utter crap.
Like they do not have extra staff all over - they just didn't want to do a little calling to get them. Pathetic.
This statement from United says it all on how screwed up the PR person is.
"After looking for volunteers, one guy did not want to, so we BEAT THE CRAP OF HIM, as our policy dictates we are allowed to BEAT passengers up. Oops - we overbooked the flight, but didn't bother to follow standard procedure of first come, first server. Oh, here is the best part - after we beat him up, we let him and his wife back on the plane when we found a better way, like actually calling the hundreds of people we have, but didn't want to pay them extra and overtime there"
United Airlines has always been bad, but this takes the cake.
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Notice the typical corporate speak to undermine the incident:
"customer refused to leave the aircraft voluntarily"
"law enforcement was asked to come"
"we apologize"
"the overbooking situation"
And then the CEO's non-apology which says "having to re-accommodate" when referring to the man that was violently attacked and dragged off the plane.
Too bad no one will go to prison for this. I hope the passenger will not settle, take this to court and United will end up losing millions in court and in sales.
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I disagree with that. He paid his ticket and he had every right to stay on the plane. He'll definitely get a nice settlement for that.
Flying on a plane is a privilege, not a right....
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He'll get a chink of money from United
fixed.
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United is going to lose and big time on this
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
Nowhere in their Contract does it say once you are seated, they can remove you. They can only deny you boarding. Forcibly removing someone is assault, and sad
Time to BOYCOTT UNITED and their 'who gives a shit' employees.
Oh, they offered $800 and no one took it. Because they were ALL on the plane already. Offer it before they get on. And a simple move would be to offer more money, $ 1,200 or $ 1,500. I bet if they raised it, they would of got what they need rather than beating up a paying customer.
does it specifically say in their paperwork that you cannot take a shit on a seat?
There are lots of rules covered in the general sections for all eventualities.
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dude should have pissed himself to finish the look of being dragged out the plane.
Somebody should have also kicked that women in the teeth for being a annoying bitch.
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Fly American Airlines next time, at least you won't get a bloody nose
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I've gotta get me a seat on an overbooked UA flight.
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i would have taken 800 and a hotel room for sure.
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I've gotta get me a seat on an overbooked UA flight.
LMFAO QFT
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I disagree with that. He paid his ticket and he had every right to stay on the plane. He'll definitely get a nice settlement for that.
A paid ticket doesn't give you a right to stay on a plane if the airline reps tell you that you have to leave the plane. Just like paying a cover charge at a bar doesn't give you the right to stay in a bar if the doormen says you have to leave for causing a disturbance. And no, he won't get a nice settlement for it. You can't simply refuse orders to leave private property and expect to be compensated with a settlement because you made a scene and resisted being removed, and got yourself injured in the process. Read the fine print that comes with a purchased ticket. The airline has the right to remove you.
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Outcome of this event would have been substantially different had United tried to remove ESFitness from the plane.
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Outcome of this event would have been substantially different had United tried to remove ESFitness from the plane.
He would have been fucking the stewardess in the lavatory after doing shots with the captain who he used to train.
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Outcome of this event would have been substantially different had United tried to remove ESFitness from the plane.
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Wonder if first class was included in the lotto draft
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Just more white privilege.
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Just more white privilege.
All those lazy whites filming with their cell phones talking shit to the police but none of them offer their seat so the Asian can stay ;D
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A paid ticket doesn't give you a right to stay on a plane if the airline reps tell you that you have to leave the plane. Just like paying a cover charge at a bar doesn't give you the right to stay in a bar if the doormen says you have to leave for causing a disturbance. And no, he won't get a nice settlement for it. You can't simply refuse orders to leave private property and expect to be compensated with a settlement because you made a scene and resisted being removed, and got yourself injured in the process. Read the fine print that comes with a purchased ticket. The airline has the right to remove you.
If he's a medical doctor it's different...also consider that he's 69 years old and federalaw requires at least 4 times the cost of the ticket for making passengers leave which wasn't the case
They fucked up
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Flying on a plane is a privilege, not a right....
Well they would have better to remove an edomite than a soy sauce...he's going to sue for assault and discimination.
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the phaggot has the mind of a child... like many blacks, he simply would not comply... instead screaming about going home, and then begging the cops to kill him over and over – they should have obliged, dude is a non functional human.
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Well they would have better to remove an edomite than a soy sauce...he's going to sue for assault and discimination.
and hes going to get nothing, he will be lucky if they dont charge him with disrupting a flight and upsetting passengers and crew.
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Flying on a plane is a privilege, not a right....
Very true, but the optics of this are fucking savage. United better get out the big, Publishers Clearing House checkbook...
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Very true, but the optics of this are fucking savage. United better get out the big, Publishers Clearing House checkbook...
Surprised you are taking this side. Everyone talks about United but it was the police that removed him.
If it were me and I was asked to leave the plane I would have gotten up and left. United is a private company and their plane is their property. If they tell me to get off their plane i need to get off the plane regardless of how shitty the customer service and situation is.
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There was 2 chicago police officers on the plane , but the black guy who man handled the passenger and dragged him out was wearing street cloths.
was he another passenger that got tired and wanted the flight to leave? an air marshall? or a united airlines janitor ???
Surprised you are taking this side. Everyone talks about United but it was the police that removed him.
If it were me and I was asked to leave the plane I would have gotten up and left. United is a private company and their plane is their property. If they tell me to get off their plane i need to get off the plane regardless of how shitty the customer service and situation is.
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The passenger has the behavior of a spoiled 5-year old, kicking and screaming like he was. And then to repeat over and over "Kill me! Kill me! Kill me" to the Police. That is somebody who is not right in the head. Three other people before him got up and left the plane without making a huge fuss, and this guy just goes full on retard. If he's really a Doctor, I wouldn't want to be a patient of his.
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New photo of United Airlines asking for volunteers to deplane.
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United just made him a millionaire
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Funniest shit i've seen in awhile.
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I'm Asian. That stupid idiot was acting like a 2 year old child. Just saw the guy who filmed the incident interviewed. This guy was flipping out. If he were my doctor I'd switch doctors fast.
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The passenger has the behavior of a spoiled 5-year old, kicking and screaming like he was. And then to repeat over and over "Kill me! Kill me! Kill me" to the Police. That is somebody who is not right in the head. Three other people before him got up and left the plane without making a huge fuss, and this guy just goes full on retard. If he's really a Doctor, I wouldn't want to be a patient of his.
x1000. The video actually helped the airlines in my view. I wouldn't want that crazy idiot on my flight anyway. What kind of doctor can he possibly be? Probably one of those crazy chiropractors!😝
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I'm just glad he wasn't black or Arab or else we would never hear the end of this.
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I'm just glad he wasn't black or Arab or else we would never hear the end of this.
According to a guy on the plane interviewed on CNN, the Asian man claimed they were making him leave bc of his skin color...
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According to a guy on the plane interviewed on CNN, the Asian man claimed they were making him leave bc of his skin color...
i can see it, trump is about to go to war against those gooks soon.
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Was that guy a physician ?
He claimed to have patients in the morn after being 'randomly' selected to get off because the had to fly 4 crew members to St Louis ? Fck that , but they offer $800 to stay ,,, would of got me hella igf with that
That skinny 'brew would of put hands on my glasses he'd lost an eye
/prison rules
" ... would OF ... ", ... would OF ... " ...
So you don't sound like an uneducated fool in the future ...
It is WOULD'VE (would have).
Hope this helps, Einstein.
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and hes going to get nothing, he will be lucky if they dont charge him with disrupting a flight and upsetting passengers and crew.
Bahahahaha!!! Oh he's definitely going to get paid. United Airlines violated federal law by not giving him 4 times his ticket price. Not only that, the level of outrage by people is something United Airlines doesn't want to deal with. They will BEG HIM TO SETTLE
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I disagree with that. He paid his ticket and he had every right to stay on the plane. He'll definitely get a nice settlement for that.
No he won't. Its in the contract about giving up the seat.
Besides, they were going to pay him 800 dollars to take the next flight and he went around screaming like Sonic the Hedgehog. hahahaha
With that said, United is a piece of shit for how they treat animals and pets, not how they treat humans.
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Bahahahaha!!! Oh he's definitely going to get paid. United Airlines violated federal law by not giving him 4 times his ticket price. Not only that, the level of outrage by people is something United Airlines doesn't want to deal with. They will BEG HIM TO SETTLE
You got it wrong Vince. Its a violation of Federal Law to interfere with a flight crew.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46504
49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(Pub. L. 103–272, § 1(e), July 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 1244; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, § 811(i), Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 382.)
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Potential Civil Consequences
Acts of interference that don't quite rise to the level of criminal conduct can still warrant hefty fines by the FAA.
In fact, the FAA can propose up to $25,000 per violation for unruly passenger cases. One incident can result in multiple violations, according to the FAA's website.
A slew of disruptive behaviors can be considered interference, including:
Flashing a laser beam from the ground;
Physically blocking crewmembers' access in the aisle or galley;
Threatening a crewmember; and
Disobeying crewmembers' repeated requests (see Alec Baldwin).
This list is by no means exhaustive. As a general rule of thumb, if the conduct is offensive or disruptive and distracts the crew, it may be considered actionable interference.
The repercussions for passengers who engage in unruly behavior can be substantial, so if an attendant instructs you to do something, you'd best listen up. Otherwise, your next destination could potentially be a jail cell, a courtroom, or the office of an experienced criminal defense lawyer near you.
Related Resources:
Malinda Knowles Sues JetBlue: Kicked Off NY Plane for 'No Panties' (FindLaw's Legally Weird)
Top 5 Things You Can't Do on a Plane (FindLaw's Legally Weird)
Is It Legal for Kids to Fly Alone? (FindLaw's Law and Daily Life)
FAA OKs Cell Phones During Takeoff, Landing (FindLaw's Law and Daily Life)
- See more at: http://blogs.findlaw.com/law_and_life/2013/11/what-happens-if-you-disobey-a-flight-attendant.html#sthash.t7Y9n9mP.dpuf
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You got it wrong Vince. Its a violation of Federal Law to interfere with a flight crew.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46504
49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(Pub. L. 103–272, § 1(e), July 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 1244; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, § 811(i), Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 382.)
thats not the first time someone has said that to him....
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Wrong - United violated their own contract and will pay dearly for this.
Already, the Civil Aviation Officer lied, had to retract his statement on how the guy 'fell', and has been suspended, pending a review. They already acknowledge the officer's behavior was not condoned nor accepted. United is screwed.
United screwed up. Already asked for one volunteered before they all boarded the plane, then did not up the ante over $800, but instead forced the crap on passengers, which the backlash alone might change for them and hurt them.
And will it hurt United. You bet. Myself along with thousands of others now will not fly them this year, and will look for other flights for many of my trips now this year. Just my team and business partners will cost them thousands. As well as the terrible PR.
Boycott United - it already has started.
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The airline booked all the seats, it then had a flight staff that needed to be in the planes destination , and if they could not get the airline staff on the flight it would cause more delays for other flights
so they asked all the passengers they needed 4 seats and asked who would volunteer to leave the flight
nobody agreed
they then offered $400 and a free hotel stay and flight the next day, nobody took it, they went to $600 nobody took it, went to $800 also nobody took it
they then went with a lotto draft and a couple got picked , they got up and left the plane, the next one was that guy, he refused to leave, said he was a Doctor and had patients to see.
so they dragged his ass out and and was bleeding all over the seats, so they made all passangers get off the plane to they could tidy up the plane again , was delayed for 2 hours so they could clean up his blood.
then he got back on the plane after all that
You stole my thunder, bro!
United Airlines Flunks Economics 101
"Yes, United's contract of carriage gives them the ability to bump passengers. But United could have — and given the circumstances should have — continued to increase its offer price until it got enough volunteers. At some point, there would have been a rush to give up seats."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/united-airlines-flunks-economics-101/
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This guys getting paid big time and rightfully so. I have miles coming to me from United. Fuck them. I'll pay. Delta it is.
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Boycott United
Tons of words, pics and movie lines..
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The airline booked all the seats, it then had a flight staff that needed to be in the planes destination , and if they could not get the airline staff on the flight it would cause more delays for other flights
so they asked all the passengers they needed 4 seats and asked who would volunteer to leave the flight
nobody agreed
they then offered $400 and a free hotel stay and flight the next day, nobody took it, they went to $600 nobody took it, went to $800 also nobody took it
they then went with a lotto draft and a couple got picked , they got up and left the plane, the next one was that guy, he refused to leave, said he was a Doctor and had patients to see.
so they dragged his ass out and and was bleeding all over the seats, so they made all passangers get off the plane to they could tidy up the plane again , was delayed for 2 hours so they could clean up his blood.
then he got back on the plane after all that
If they kept upping the price someone would have taken it. Everyone has their price. The fact that no one took the $800 shows how important being on that flight was to them. Try 8 grand and watch the hands rise. I understand over booking is necessary but if they need the seats the airlines have to be prepared to pay a high premium.
The doctor paid for his seat. There was no clause that if it was overbooked he might be refused a seat. The $800 bribe wasn't worth it to him. He kept his end of the transaction as a buyer and shouldn't be under any obligation to accommodate a seller who now wants to change the rules after the agreed transaction.
The airline industry is doing very well right now. People are a bit resentful on how they nickle and dime you to death. This fella wins and will win big.
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A paid ticket doesn't give you a right to stay on a plane if the airline reps tell you that you have to leave the plane. Just like paying a cover charge at a bar doesn't give you the right to stay in a bar if the doormen says you have to leave for causing a disturbance. And no, he won't get a nice settlement for it. You can't simply refuse orders to leave private property and expect to be compensated with a settlement because you made a scene and resisted being removed, and got yourself injured in the process. Read the fine print that comes with a purchased ticket. The airline has the right to remove you.
Actually it does.
As long as you follow the terms of the agreement you have the right to get what you paid for. If that wasn't the case then a seller can modify any agreement AFTER the transaction has been made. How would you like it if you were told to leave a movie because you were too tall and blocked the view of people behind you? That would only be legit only if they had a height requirement agreed to prior to the transaction. Only if there was a clause stating that you might get asked to leave if overbooked would it be justified to ask the doctor to leave.
Of course, in an emergency life and death situation then all bets are off.
United, I'm sure, have already realized that they should have kept upping the ante and paid whatever it took to get a volunteer. It would be pennies compared to what they will have to pay now. Not only in ching but in reputation. Ron is right that United has a horrible reputation. They are now going to have to work over time, and at great expense, to salvage their reputation.
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I like that the doctoe put up a fight. I would be upset if i planned ahead made an appointment to see him, missed work, got to the office only to see a sorry we are closed sign because doctor gave his seat up for some asshole united employees, please miss work again and see you in a few weeks.
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No he won't. Its in the contract about giving up the seat.
Besides, they were going to pay him 800 dollars to take the next flight and he went around screaming like Sonic the Hedgehog. hahahaha
With that said, United is a piece of shit for how they treat animals and pets, not how they treat humans.
Are you sure? How do you know this? I checked the terms of agreement on the last flight I took (Hawaiian Airlines) and there was no such clause. Of course, United could be different and if that is the case then the terms of the agreement was not violated.
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You stole my thunder, bro!
United Airlines Flunks Economics 101
"Yes, United's contract of carriage gives them the ability to bump passengers. But United could have — and given the circumstances should have — continued to increase its offer price until it got enough volunteers. At some point, there would have been a rush to give up seats."
http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/united-airlines-flunks-economics-101/
Yes, bumping passengers is one thing, which I think is what TA is talking about, but not throwing you off after you've been allowed entry and seated.
I've been bumped before but if I was asked to leave after giving my ticket and being seated then I would not go cheaply.
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Why is everyone calling this moron a doctor? How come nobody has identified him yet as a doctor of anything?
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Damn crybabies. If this guy were a Arab Muslim, nobody would give a shit.
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some of those r hilarious.
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If the airline have the right to remove a passenger because they overbooked / want that seat
I presume they do have the right ( it is there plane & no doubt can refuse to fly you for whatever reason )
How they remove you & how it looks to others that use their planes - May make the decisions & actions they took Extremely costly to them - No doubt there is a lot of back room meetings going on at united.
They are Suffering now from very bad publicity & no doubt already loosing customers flight revenue to
Other airlines.
They maybe able to legally justify the action they took - That's not going to help them fill there seats when people go fly with another airline.
I think they likely regret there heavy handed action already.
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good seeing wiggs manhandle kwon like that 8)
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If the airline have the right to remove a passenger because they overbooked / want that seat
I presume they do have the right ( it is there plane & no doubt can refuse to fly you for whatever reason )
How they remove you & how it looks to others that use their planes - May make the decisions & actions they took Extremely costly to them - No doubt there is a lot of back room meetings going on at united.
They are Suffering now from very bad publicity & no doubt already loosing customers flight revenue to
Other airlines.
They maybe able to legally justify the action they took - That's not going to help them fill there seats when people go fly with another airline.
I think they likely regret there heavy handed action already.
People fly on airlines that offer the best value.
I couldnt care less if they drag people off kicking and screaming every day as long as my seats cheap.
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People fly on airlines that offer the best value.
I couldnt care less if they drag people off kicking and screaming every day as long as my seats cheap.
Yes - agree many do fly if the seats are cheap.
Also many will be put off by the airlines behaviour towards its customers.
Clearly not your goodself...
though being dragged off a plane might interfere with ones contest prep.
- Just to keep it Bodybuilding Related. ;)
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Fair effort but > end:
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You got it wrong Vince. Its a violation of Federal Law to interfere with a flight crew.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/49/46504
49 U.S. Code § 46504 - Interference with flight crew members and attendants
Current through Pub. L. 114-38. (See Public Laws for the current Congress.)
An individual on an aircraft in the special aircraft jurisdiction of the United States who, by assaulting or intimidating a flight crew member or flight attendant of the aircraft, interferes with the performance of the duties of the member or attendant or lessens the ability of the member or attendant to perform those duties, or attempts or conspires to do such an act, shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 20 years, or both. However, if a dangerous weapon is used in assaulting or intimidating the member or attendant, the individual shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.
(Pub. L. 103–272, § 1(e), July 5, 1994, 108 Stat. 1244; Pub. L. 107–56, title VIII, § 811(i), Oct. 26, 2001, 115 Stat. 382.)
Sorry but he didn't violate any laws. If United Airlines offered him 1650.00 under federal law which is 4 times his ticket, then they would have a case. They only offered 800 dollars. He won't be charged with anything because the officer acted improperly in removing him and they've already suspended him. United Airlines would be crazy to pursue charges
Also from a business side of things....the world sees a 69 year old Asian medical doctor being beaten up and dragged off the flight to make room for 4 United Airlines employees. People are boycotting the airlines for the incident and for discrimination. United Airlines is going to lose millions and they are going to have to settle big with this guy....REALLY BIG. They fucked up and its going to cost them
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Vince is correct. United along with the agency that employed the officer are liable to the man for his injuries, IIED, pain and suffering, and the embarrassment and humiliation he suffered. The officer was already placed on leave and it's already been shown that he did not follow protocol, moreover, there is video footage and plenty of eye-witness accounts to inflame a jury. You wouldn't want to take this case to a jury.
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lmfao
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Fly United!
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OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNITED AIRLINES DOCTOR CONVICTED OF EXCHANGING DRUGS FOR SEX
http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/)
The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.
Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.
Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.
Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine again. Last year, the medical board imposed restrictions on his right to practice. He can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.
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So, it is clear to say.
If one of the flying united whore waitress gave him a blowjob he would of got off the plane for free without a struggle
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OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNITED AIRLINES DOCTOR CONVICTED OF EXCHANGING DRUGS FOR SEX
http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/)
The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.
Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.
Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.
Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine again. Last year, the medical board imposed restrictions on his right to practice. He can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.
So he's a getbigger!!
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At least with Malaysian Airlines you get to take off
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I used to fly a lot for work from 2000-2010 and it used to be a semi-pleasant experience, especially in first.
Thankfully, I do not fly anymore. I don't know how people stand it... pure torture!
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musclecenter needed to hit chest and bis the next day.
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Yes - agree many do fly if the seats are cheap.
Also many will be put off by the airlines behaviour towards its customers.
Clearly not your goodself...
though being dragged off a plane might interfere with ones contest prep.
- Just to keep it Bodybuilding Related. ;)
if someone asked me to get off a plane and fly me free the day after, put me up in a hotel and give me $800 I would have got off.
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At least with Malaysian Airlines you get to take off
There is some seriously funny shit being posted in this thread. Bravo.
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So he's a getbigger!!
YES.
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if someone asked me to get off a plane and fly me free the day after, put me up in a hotel and give me $800 I would have got off.
He's a medical doctor so 800 dollars is peanuts to him. Of course, now he'll have a peanut farm. United Airline stocks are way down right now and have lost over 900 million dollars in market capitalization. This is a PR nightmare of all proportions.
You know....I'm sure that Pepsi is smiling now since that incident with the protesting mudshark TV ad. ;D
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Rumor is that the US Government has awarded United Airlines with a contract to forcibly remove Assad from Syria.
#PhoneKnows
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It does not matter what religion, race, or what he does in this instance. United was screwed up wrong. $900 million in lost stock value because of their stupidity and their idiotic CEO who proved he cannot handle a simple situation. So many people not going to fly United in the new coming months. Even if only temporary, the lost value and lost revenue is incredible. And yes, since they did NOT offer four times the value of his ticket, and the Chicago Aviation Authority already suspended and said they were wrong in the procedure, United is screwed. Also, now, Congress may look into the anti-trust, and other laws these big 4 airlines get (which control 80% of the passenger traffic) which this bull. The public has had enough.
#boycottunited
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http://nypost.com/2017/04/11/doctor-dragged-off-flight-convicted-of-trading-drugs-for-sex/amp/
Dr. David Dao, 69, who was captured in a now-viral video being forcibly dragged off the Louisville-bound flight at Chicago’s O’Hare Airport on Sunday, was working as a doctor specializing in pulmonary disease in Elizabethtown when he was convicted of trading prescription drugs for sexual favors.
According to documents filed with the Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure, Dao was arrested in 2003 on the drug-related offenses following an undercover investigation.
The board’s probe into the criminal charges found that Dao became sexually interested in a male patient, Brian Case, whom he gave a physical examination to, including a genital examination, and whom he eventually made his office manage
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Link doesn't work. However I could care less if the guy was a serial killer. I hate the fucking airlines and the shit they pull with overbooking flights. Fuck them. I hope he sues and puts United right out of business.
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He's a medical doctor so 800 dollars is peanuts to him. Of course, now he'll have a peanut farm. United Airline stocks are way down right now and have lost over 900 million dollars in market capitalization. This is a PR nightmare of all proportions.
You know....I'm sure that Pepsi is smiling now since that incident with the protesting mudshark TV ad. ;D
I disagree Vince. United should just stick to their guns. Give their side of the story and tell everyone who has a problem with it to pound sand. Apologize to no one. Settle out of court with that childish man who apparently went to medical school yet lowered himself to the level of getting dragged off a plane by some idiot plane security guards(probably knowing he would be able to sue). People still need to fly and if United has the cheapest flight people will use them. People don't care about ethics these days, they care about saving money. United should definitely not let this happen again however. They should do some in house training to prevent this and move on.
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LOL, some of the memes:
"United Airlines, we put the hospital in hospitality!"
:D
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He's a medical doctor so 800 dollars is peanuts to him. Of course, now he'll have a peanut farm. United Airline stocks are way down right now and have lost over 900 million dollars in market capitalization. This is a PR nightmare of all proportions.
You know....I'm sure that Pepsi is smiling now since that incident with the protesting mudshark TV ad. ;D
$800 is not peanuts to him. He is restricted to practicing to one day a week.
"In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine with some restrictions. Last year, the medical board imposed even more restrictions -- now he can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week."
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It does not matter what religion, race, or what he does in this instance. United was screwed up wrong. $900 million in lost stock value because of their stupidity and their idiotic CEO who proved he cannot handle a simple situation. So many people not going to fly United in the new coming months. Even if only temporary, the lost value and lost revenue is incredible. And yes, since they did NOT offer four times the value of his ticket, and the Chicago Aviation Authority already suspended and said they were wrong in the procedure, United is screwed. Also, now, Congress may look into the anti-trust, and other laws these big 4 airlines get (which control 80% of the passenger traffic) which this bull. The public has had enough.
#boycottunited
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! This is great. :D
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Damn, they really beat his ass good. :o
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LOL at people talking about the stock. Who cares about lost market cap. Shit happens everyday. Apple's market cap is down over 5 billion today! OMG!!
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Pro Gamers Soon to Face Random Drug Tests
Doctor Removed From United Flight Traded Drugs For Sex, Made $234,664 Playing Poker
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The identity of the doctor who was forcibly removed from United Airlines Flight 3411 is Dr. David Dao. He is a 69-year-old doctor who specializes in internal medicine. Dao studied at a medical school in Saigon, Vietnam in the 1970s before moving to the United States. His wife Theresa is a pediatrician who has a clinic in Elizabethtown, Kentucky, about 40 miles south of Louisville. He’s a father of five and a grandfather. Four of his five kids are doctors.
Dao had his medical license suspended for more than 10 years for illegally prescribing painkillers to patients. Dao was working as a pulmonologist in Elizabethtown when he was arrested in 2003. The same year, Dao was charged with 98 counts of illegally prescribing and trafficking prescription painkillers such as hydrocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet. Surveillance video captured Dao meeting patients and supplying them with painkillers, mostly hydrocodone. In one deal, Dao received $174 in exchange for pills.
From Heavy:
The criminal complaint in the case went onto say that Dao would solicit homosexual relations with a male patient in exchange for a prescription for hydrocodone. The meetings occurred at motels and it was found that Dao had written out personal checks to the patient on more than one occasion.
The patient was arrested at a Walgreens Pharmacy and brought in for an interview, where he confessed about his and Dao’s relationship. The man was brought into police custody because he was calling the pharmacy to order prescriptions and saying that he was in fact Dao, picking up prescriptions under numerous aliases.
Dao was eventually arrested by police at a hotel room in Jefferson County on July 25, 2003. The room was under surveillance by the Louisville Police Department and Dao was seen with the male patient without a shirt on and with his pants undone. The patient gave Dao money for a bottle of pills and police stormed the room to arrest him upon the exchange.
Dao was officially charged with unlawful prescribing, trafficking in a controlled substance and complicity in obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and pled not guilty to the charges.
Some of those charges ended up being dismissed, but Dao was eventually convicted on six counts. He was found guilty of complicity in obtaining a controlled substance (hydrocodone) by fraud and sentenced to two years, eight months in prison, a sentence that was suspended, and was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine.
Dr. Dao, who was seen in the viral video of him being forcibly dragged off the United Airlines flight to Louisville on Sunday, allegedly became sexually interested in a male patient whom he later made his office manager. According to documents filed by Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure last June, Dao was sexually involved with a patient who used to work for his practice and assisted police in building a case against him.
The New York Post reports that “the unidentified man then quit that job due to inappropriate remarks made by Dao, who then pursued him and arranged to give him prescription drugs in exchange for sexual acts, state the documents, filed last year.”
Dr. Dao surrendered his medical license. The Kentucky Board of Medical Licensure permitted Dao to resume practicing medicine in 2015 under certain conditions.
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is there any Getbig lawyers on here who wanna consider this case against UA?
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I disagree Vince. United should just stick to their guns. Give their side of the story and tell everyone who has a problem with it to pound sand. Apologize to no one. Settle out of court with that childish man who apparently went to medical school yet lowered himself to the level of getting dragged off a plane by some idiot plane security guards(probably knowing he would be able to sue). People still need to fly and if United has the cheapest flight people will use them. People don't care about ethics these days, they care about saving money. United should definitely not let this happen again however. They should do some in house training to prevent this and move on.
Paying the guy off, which is essentially rewarding him for his childish behavior, in my opinion would just invite copycats to do exactly what he did in future situations. Just act like a 3-year old, be disruptive and argumentative with airport personal and crew, kick and scream, get a viral video, and then sit back and wait for the big payday.
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OH SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
UNITED AIRLINES DOCTOR CONVICTED OF EXCHANGING DRUGS FOR SEX
http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/ (http://www.tmz.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-doctor-convicted-drugs-sex/)
The passenger who was savagely removed from United flight 3411 is a medical doctor with a sordid history.
Dr. David Dao was charged in 2005 with 98 felony drug counts for illegally prescribing and trafficking painkillers. Prosecutors claimed Dao fraudulently filled prescriptions for hydocodone, Oxycontin and Percocet.
Dr. Dao was also convicted on 6 felony counts of obtaining drugs by fraud and deceit and in 2005 was given 5 years probation.
Dao was also convicted for writing prescriptions and checks to a patient in exchange for sex.
In February, 2005, Dr. Dao surrendered his license to practice medicine in Kentucky. In 2015 the medical board lifted the suspension and allowed him to practice medicine again. Last year, the medical board imposed restrictions on his right to practice. He can only practice internal medicine in an outpatient facility one day a week.
His personal failings and criminal history is a completely separate issue. He still had the same rights as everybody else on that plane.
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He still had the same rights as everybody else on that plane.
nobody on that plane had the right to disregard authorities
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His personal failings and criminal history is a completely separate issue. He still had the same rights as everybody else on that plane.
Looks like a behavioral pattern to me:
Interestingly, and relevant to the United incident, one doctor assessing Dao's case said he had interpersonal problems, noting "... he would unilaterally choose to do his own thing."
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close to losing a billion dollars over this shit
hahahhahahahha
wonder how many would of jumped up as soon as they said free first class roundtrip tickets anywhere around the world $5,000x4 = $20,000 > $1,000,000,000.00 loss
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Looks like a behavioral pattern to me:
Interestingly, and relevant to the United incident, one doctor assessing Dao's case said he had interpersonal problems, noting "... he would unilaterally choose to do his own thing."
the degenerate tard is obviously completely unhinged.
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nobody on that plane had the right to disregard authorities
well the fact one employee has been suspended and a billion $ has been wiped off the airline's value would suggest the general consensus is somewhat different to that.
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well the fact one employee has been suspended and a billion $ has been wiped off the airline's value would suggest the general consensus is somewhat different to that.
imbecile
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imbecile
you think their stock nosedived overnight because the majority of observers thought the passenger was in the wrong ?
you dumb turd.
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close to losing a billion dollars over this shit
hahahhahahahha
wonder how many would of jumped up as soon as they said free first class roundtrip tickets anywhere around the world $5,000x4 = $20,000 > $1,000,000,000.00 loss
Are you retarded? It's market cap. Large companies fluctuate billions of dollars every day.
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you think their stock nosedived overnight because the majority of observers thought the passenger was in the wrong ?
you dumb turd.
Nosedived? It was up yesterday and was down 1.15% today. That's nothing.
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you think their stock nosedived overnight because the majority of observers thought the passenger was in the wrong ?
I called you an imbecile because 'general consensus' matters not in regard to my statement of fact, dummy.
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LOL at people talking about the stock. Who cares about lost market cap. Shit happens everyday. Apple's market cap is down over 5 billion today! OMG!!
It's not about the stock price, it's about the perception that 300 million Americans have about how United treats it's customers. United Airline's slogan is "Fly the Friendly Skies". For over forty years "Fly the Friendly Skies" is the perception United wanted customers to have of it's Airline. Forty years of work ruined in less than five minutes.
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Man, the Airline industry....
It's really just an offset of the Government.
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It's not about the stock price, it's about the perception that 300 million Americans have about how United treats it's customers. United Airline's slogan is "Fly the Friendly Skies". For over forty years "Fly the Friendly Skies" is the perception United wanted customers to have of it's Airline. Forty years of work ruined in less than five minutes.
That's a total overreaction. Will not matter. In 1993 Jack in the box had an e-coli outbreak and killed 4 kids. They're still successful and in business. BP had a oil well blow killing 11 people and dumping over 200 million gallons of oil into the gulf. They're still in business and worth over 100 billion. Airlines have plane crashes where 100+ people die and they're still in business. I could go on and on. This will not matter long term. Not even a little bit.
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I called you an imbecile because 'general consensus' matters not in regard to my statement of fact, dummy.
you stated that no one on the plane had the right to disobey authority (or some gaylord shite to that effect)
that was simply YOUR OPINION. I pointed out that given the following events YOUR OPINION was not shared by the majority.
get it now idiot?
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get it now idiot?
I got it before... hence 'imbecile', bears repeating, tho - u r a fuking imbecile.
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They're still successful and in business. BP had a oil well blow killing 11 people and dumping over 200 million gallons of oil into the gulf. They're still in business and worth over 100 billion.
Deepwater Horizon cost BP shareholders dearly.
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I got it before... hence 'imbecile', bears repeating, tho - u r a fuking imbecile.
explain how a man who pays for a seat on a plane is even allowed take his seat on said plane has no right to tell the airline to fk off when they decide their need to let one of their employees take his seat trumps his need to get where he is going on time
you yanks make me laugh. harp on about being the country of the free. "gotta keep all our guns so we can stand up to the authorities"
and then any incident like this where those in "authority" are blatantly taking the p1ss. and then all you fags are like "oh well you can't disobey authority"
absolute homo idiot.
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Deepwater Horizon cost BP shareholders dearly.
Yet they're still in business and making money. 11 people died and they caused a horrible environmental catastrophe. We're talking about a guy getting dragged off a plane. It will pass and United will be more then fine.
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Who knew there were so many babies on Getbig. hahahhaha
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explain
even if I thought that u were able to comprehend reality, which I do not think that u are.... I still would not bother explaining... because once u did comprehend reality.... u would immediately deny it.
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even if I thought that u were able to comprehend reality, which I do not think that u are.... I still would not bother explaining... because once u did comprehend reality.... u would immediately deny it.
translation
i am a cuck @ss fag. i would let anyone take anything from me without any resistance because i have no testicles.
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He's a medical doctor so 800 dollars is peanuts to him. Of course, now he'll have a peanut farm. United Airline stocks are way down right now and have lost over 900 million dollars in market capitalization. This is a PR nightmare of all proportions.
You know....I'm sure that Pepsi is smiling now since that incident with the protesting mudshark TV ad. ;D
$800 is not peanuts to anyone, fuck me I bet you have never seen $800 all in one place.
Airline stocks are down, so fucking what, people will buy them again and they will go up, in fact nows the time to buy them due to silly knee jerk reactions by fuckwits, and no, hes not going to get rich off the back of this.
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people are forced to leave airplanes, trains, buses etc all the time for numerous reasons
big deal
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4 days ago:
WASHINGTON (ABC7) — Striding through Reagan National Airport, musician John Kaboff was one upset passenger.
"I was mortified to have to be removed from a flight, like I just committed a crime," he said.
The 46-year-old cellist was sitting in his seat, on an American Airlines flight to Chicago, when he says a flight attendant and the pilot asked him to leave.
"The cello was not allowed on this particular aircraft," Kaboff said the flight crew told him. "Either I could voluntarily leave, or I could be removed from the airplane."
All this, because of his $100,000 cello, sitting in a seat he had paid for.
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Family With Autistic Daughter Forced Off Plane
A United Airlines jet made an emergency landing as the pilot was not "comfortable" with the 15-year-old on board, her mother says.
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A 5-foot-4, 110-pound woman had already stowed her bags and was buckled in her seat when she was asked to leave the plane to provide room for a large person to sit in two seats. The late-to-arrive large person was a 14-year-old girl whose parents had only purchased one seat, a violation of the airline’s “Customer of Size” policies.
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The Mortimores were forced to cancel their first overseas holiday in eight years because fellow plane passengers refused to let them sit together.
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"Delta passenger says she was forced off plane for appearing sick "
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Woman Forced Off Plane For Singing Whitney Houston’s ‘I Will Always Love You’
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Me and my wife once turned up at the airport for a holiday to Tenerife.
They told us it was overbooked and offered us a refund.
I said I wanted to go somewhere else as we were at the airport and ready for a holiday, they found us a holiday in Gran Canaria, gave us a full refund and the holiday for free.
Maybe I should have screamed like a stuck pig at the counter and caused a scene, after all why let the airlines treat you like shit
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Disabled woman forced off bus for not having MOBILITY SCOOTER pass
Mum forced off bus because one of her twins 'wouldn't stop crying'
Woman forced off bus for wearing 'too many' Stars of David ...
'Humiliated' mother forced off bus for breastfeeding
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Bodybuilder breaks into German chancellor Angela Merkel's plane
Authorities would not comment on reports that Volkan T. was dancing around on the plane in his underpants when he was caught by police.
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Disabled woman forced off bus for not having MOBILITY SCOOTER pass
Mum forced off bus because one of her twins 'wouldn't stop crying'
Woman forced off bus for wearing 'too many' Stars of David ...
'Humiliated' mother forced off bus for breastfeeding
"You can do anything you want in life but if other people dont like what you are doing they will stop you."
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Since this thread was created, United Airlines is down $1 per share. What a move! Yawwwwn
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Me and my wife once turned up at the airport for a holiday to Tenerife.
They told us it was overbooked and offered us a refund.
I said I wanted to go somewhere else as we were at the airport and ready for a holiday, they found us a holiday in Gran Canaria, gave us a full refund and the holiday for free.
Maybe I should have screamed like a stuck pig at the counter and caused a scene, after all why let the airlines treat you like shit
there's a big difference between not being able to board a flight due to overbooking and being allowed to board and take your seat, to then be told you must leave.
the airline had obviously royally fked up by getting into a position where they had to ask seated passengers to volunteer to leave. as said by others at that stage they should have just kept upping the offer money until there were some takers(which would have eventually happened).
whatever they ended up paying it would have been far cheaper than the cost of the pr nightmare their chosen action has caused.
the airline industry is full of scumbag companies ime. in the last couple years i've had flights cancelled for over booking 24 hrs before when went to check in online. ended up having to get up at 4am and drive a hundred miles to take another flight to salvage a family xmas holiday.
and another airline refuse to pay industry regulation compensation for 10hr maintenance delay until i started legal action.
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I fingered a random whore on a plane. Never saw her again.
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CEO Letter to staff not giving a crap on the public
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They better replace that CEO asap to prevent any more damage, what a fool's company
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That passenger was a real asshole.
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Look. If asians were meant to fly they would have invented airplanes.
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Who the hell really cares. The guy should have complained, but gotten off peacefully and taken the 800 bucks. United should have bee smart and offered 4X the ticket value which is approved by the DOT. Regardless, resisting the police is never smart and will only get your ass kicked. BTW, I could care less that he has a character of disrepute as that constitutes 90% of Getbiggers and I love you guys. Regardless, I agree with Zillotech in two weeks nobody will give a shit. The bottom line is that United makes cash and its stock will remain strong. Fuck the fake outrage of the liberal press. Shit happens everyday on all airlines, but the passengers are usually smart enough to take the money and run.
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Why is everyone calling this moron a doctor? How come nobody has identified him yet as a doctor of anything?
turns out this "doctor" is a drug pushing scum. Looks like United's algorithms had it right after all.
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The lesson here is:
When cops in Chicago tell you to move, I'd strongly suggest you fucking move.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html
Yet another very happy & satisfied Frequent Flyer With United Airlines ::)
Also I see the CEO has changed his tune from the email he sent out to employees
Right or wrong what united airlines did -
The public outcry has had an effect on them enough so that they are reviewing what they do.
Clearly they aren't 100% behind their treatment of said passenger now.
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http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html
Yet another very happy & satisfied Frequent Flyer With United Airlines ::)
Also I see the CEO has changed his tune from the email he sent out to employees
Right or wrong what united airlines did -
The public outcry has had an effect on them enough so that they are reviewing what they do.
Clearly they aren't 100% behind their treatment of said passenger now.
Damn, they kicking "everyone" off!
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there's a big difference between not being able to board a flight due to overbooking and being allowed to board and take your seat, to then be told you must leave.
the airline had obviously royally fked up by getting into a position where they had to ask seated passengers to volunteer to leave. as said by others at that stage they should have just kept upping the offer money until there were some takers(which would have eventually happened).
whatever they ended up paying it would have been far cheaper than the cost of the pr nightmare their chosen action has caused.
the airline industry is full of scumbag companies ime. in the last couple years i've had flights cancelled for over booking 24 hrs before when went to check in online. ended up having to get up at 4am and drive a hundred miles to take another flight to salvage a family xmas holiday.
and another airline refuse to pay industry regulation compensation for 10hr maintenance delay until i started legal action.
yes, about 2 hours... it wouldnt have mattered if I had been in my seat or at the check in desk.
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Paying the guy off, which is essentially rewarding him for his childish behavior, in my opinion would just invite copycats to do exactly what he did in future situations. Just act like a 3-year old, be disruptive and argumentative with airport personal and crew, kick and scream, get a viral video, and then sit back and wait for the big payday.
OR, it will send a message regarding the use of force on someone who had paid for his ticket and granted entry and seated as per the business agreement.
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OR, it will send a message regarding the use of force on someone who had paid for his ticket and granted entry and seated as per the business agreement.
I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.
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nobody on that plane had the right to disregard authorities
It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?
He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.
He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.
United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.
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The internet isn't boiling over about any of the other injustices in the world. This just became a big deal because people hate airlines and all the bullshit of flying. The chinaman isn't the issue.
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I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.
It's an economic transaction. When a buyer and seller agree and commit to that transaction, often exchanging money and services, then each party has the right
that the other will honor the agreement.
Unless there was a specific clause stipulating that a passenger can be removed from the plane to make room for other passengers arbitrarily deemed more deserving then his rights has been violated.
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It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?
He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.
He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.
United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.
ITS THAT LACK OF RESPECT THAT GETS SO MANY OF THEM SHOT...
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ITS THAT LACK OF RESPECT THAT GETS SO MANY OF THEM SHOT...
Yes, a lot of blood has been spilled standing up to authority. On balance, America is a better society because of those who didn't just cow tow and insipidly doing what they are told to do and not do.
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It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?
He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.
He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.
United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.
Good post 👍🏻
Only not all Europeans - More & more of us do stand up & reject the outdated monarchy/ authoritarianism.
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Yes, a lot of blood has been spilled standing up to authority. On balance, America is a better society because of those who didn't just cow tow and insipidly doing what they are told to do and not do.
Fuck me, massive crime rates, prisons overcrowded, I wonder how bad it would be if people just obey the law and behaved themselves.
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I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.
if you're not trolling and this really is your attitude then you're simply one of life's doormats.
when i pay for services/goods i fully expect to get what i've paid for. yet you think when you help line the pockets of one of these multi billion airlines that it's a privilege for them to allow you take the seat you paid for!
it's the sheeple with your type of mindset that make these huge corporations so confident that they can run roughshod over whoever they choose.
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It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?
He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.
He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.
United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.
i have to call bs on the bolded.
the US is probably the most authority controlled society in the western world. they tend not to travel internationally and have little knowledge of what's going on in the rest of the world. the only thing they get uptight about it is the threat to take away their guns. and that's only because it's been drummed into them that giving them up would lead to armageddon. lol
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I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.
Oxymoron of peace.
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Good post 👍🏻
Only not all Europeans - More & more of us do stand up & reject the outdated monarchy/ authoritarianism.
Of course not all. I knew I was on shaky ground to make that claim but it's just been my experience in issues like these and how they polarize. It's kind of ironic, but telling, Conker scolding us "yanks" -- meaning those Americans who allow themselves to be bullied when we go on about freedom and our rights.
I don't want to diminish those in Europe who fight tooth and nail to prevent what is happening there. That small but growing movement in Germany fighting those who have literally surrendered their country without a fight is very encouraging.
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Fuck me, massive crime rates, prisons overcrowded, I wonder how bad it would be if people just obey the law and behaved themselves.
Compared to what? England, France, Germany?
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i have to call bs on the bolded.
the US is probably the most authority controlled society in the western world. they tend not to travel internationally and have little knowledge of what's going on in the rest of the world. the only thing they get uptight about it is the threat to take away their guns. and that's only because it's been drummed into them that giving them up would lead to armageddon. lol
It's a sad truth that American are far more parochial and insular compared to Europeans. There is a stinging lack of sophistication and "broadness" I feel in myself when meeting others from another country. We only know and care about our own back yard. But that is a separate issue. Americans still (thought it's changing) value freedom and very willing to fight injustice and stand up to authority.
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Who knew there were so many babies on Getbig. hahahhaha
So often we attribute intelligence, or lack thereof, to those who disagree or agree with us. Many Dems/Libs believe that Repub/Conserv are just stupid and vice versa when in reality both sides are armed with very, very intelligent people. To argue that William F. Buckley or Christopher Hitchens are just dumb people is beyond moronic.
It's a matter of perspective. Our world view. Carter believed that Communism, though bad ("in his opinion"), was an alternative political ideology and who are we to tell them, force them, otherwise? Reagan believed Communism was evil and they are to be fought at every turn and destroyed. Remember his strategy when he was asked to articulate it? "We win. They lose."
You see a person fighting back on an renege, mutually agreed upon, agreement as a cry baby. I see you as an obsequious sheep letting others push you around under the color of authority.
Again, being bumped from a flight is one thing. It's quite another being asked to leave after your ticket was accepted and you are seated because United has decided at the last minute that they would rather have someone else sitting in your seat and willing to use force to get their way and violate the agreed upon transaction.
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Of course not all. I knew I was on shaky ground to make that claim but it's just been my experience in issues like these and how they polarize. It's kind of ironic, but telling, Conker scolding us "yanks" -- meaning those Americans who allow themselves to be bullied when we go on about freedom and our rights.
I don't want to diminish those in Europe who fight tooth and nail to prevent what is happening there. That small but growing movement in Germany fighting those who have literally surrendered their country without a fight is very encouraging.
this kind of statement proves my point to a great extent. americans in general have a skewed opinion of the world because they don't travel anywhere.
i just got back from visiting cologne in germany a few weeks ago. what a great city. the people are very open and friendly and it's not the falseness you get in a lot of places where its just put on for tourists. they actually interact with each other in the same way.
cologne is probably the most diverse large city in germany with the highest concentration of muslims. yet the people in general seem very happy, there is no apparent tensions and they mix freely with each other. it's not culturally segregated like in the states.
yet your average american thinks germany is in a state of civil unrest. lol
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The internet isn't boiling over about any of the other injustices in the world. This just became a big deal because people hate airlines and all the bullshit of flying. The chinaman isn't the issue.
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this kind of statement proves my point to a great extent. americans in general have a skewed opinion of the world because they don't travel anywhere.
i just got back from visiting cologne in germany a few weeks ago. what a great city. the people are very open and friendly and it's not the falseness you get in a lot of places where its just put on for tourists. they actually interact with each other in the same way.
cologne is probably the most diverse large city in germany with the highest concentration of muslims. yet the people in general seem very happy, there is no apparent tensions and they mix freely with each other. it's not culturally segregated like in the states.
yet your average american thinks germany is in a state of civil unrest. lol
So you have no problem with Merckle's open border policy and the social climate is the same say, 7 years ago?
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So you have no problem with Merckle's open border policy and the social climate is the same say, 7 years ago?
what open door policy? germany has pretty much identical immigration levels(per capita) to the US.
the thing the idiots are generally up in arms about is the number of refugees merkel is allowing in.
and if they had a brain between them they'd realise they should be blaming those responsible for the destruction of iraq/syria/libya for that.
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It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Don't all former presidents receive $250,000.00 per year plus secret service agents for life? Or that bullshit?
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It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.
Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?
He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.
He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.
United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.
>:(
#Not all Europeans
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Don't all former presidents receive $250,000.00 per year plus secret service agents for life? Or that bullshit?
tbh the amount the monarchy costs the uk taxpayer in this day and age is negligible. they no doubt pay for that tenfold in the value they add in terms of tourism.
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tbh the amount the monarchy costs the uk taxpayer in this day and age is negligible. they no doubt pay for that tenfold in the value they add in terms of tourism.
Do you think tourism to the UK would be affected if the monarchy was abolished? I doubt many tourists visit the UK specifically because of the monarchy. Whatever happens, London will always be a major destination.
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i have to call bs on the bolded.
the US is probably the most authority controlled society in the western world. they tend not to travel internationally and have little knowledge of what's going on in the rest of the world. the only thing they get uptight about it is the threat to take away their guns. and that's only because it's been drummed into them that giving them up would lead to armageddon. lol
Its in Euro's history. Euros are used to being taken care of. That's one of the reasons why socialism has taken hold in a lot of Euro countries.
Also, many Americans travel abroad, far more than you know. Many Americans on this site travel abroad. It's just that Euros traveling between Euro nations is like Americans traveling to another state. You go through the Chunnel and are in France. Then one could drive from France to either Belgium, Germany, Luxembourg, Italy, Monaco, or Spain, etc.
The thing that you don't get, is that with America, it's so big, that each state is like its own country, with its own "constitution", governing bodies, legislatures, etc. And you have different American cultures, dialects, etc.
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also its a myth that europe is so more "socialist" than the US
UK total tax revenue is around 34% of GDP in the states it's around 26% i believe
but when you consider that tax in the UK more or less covers the entire population's health care costs whereas in the US health care encompasses 17%+ of GDP, you really not better off, probably worse.
but as long as a large chunk of your income goes to a combination of the government and huge insurance corporations this makes you happy cos you still feel you're "anti socialist". even though the combined total is likely more than tax being paid in most western european countries. lol
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Do you think tourism to the UK would be affected if the monarchy was abolished? I doubt many tourists visit the UK specifically because of the monarchy. Whatever happens, London will always be a major destination.
yes i think all the tradition around the monarchy and palaces etc is a draw for tourists. not saying london would stop being a major tourist destination without them but for the pittance they actually cost they are good value.
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tbh the amount the monarchy costs the uk taxpayer in this day and age is negligible. they no doubt pay for that tenfold in the value they add in terms of tourism.
Negligible is what the impact on tourism would be if they go rid of the monarchy. It's about the history.
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Negligible is what the impact on tourism would be if they go rid of the monarchy. It's about the history.
what's "about the history"... the tourist appeal?
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what's "about the history"... the tourist appeal?
Yes.
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It's an economic transaction. When a buyer and seller agree and commit to that transaction, often exchanging money and services, then each party has the right
that the other will honor the agreement.
Unless there was a specific clause stipulating that a passenger can be removed from the plane to make room for other passengers arbitrarily deemed more deserving then his rights has been violated.
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His situation is no different than if a person paid for a hotel room, checked in, unpacked, and went to bed. Then, the hotel staff comes and knocks on the door and says, "Sorry sir, but we've got some employees who need a room for the night. You have been randomly selected to give up your room. Please pack your shit and GTFO!" My response who be, "Tell your employees to fuck off and find another hotel, I've already paid for this room, and I've got an early meeting in the morning!"
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Yes.
and the royal family doesn't add to "the history" ???
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Hope this airline gets boycotted.
He bought a ticket and was in his seat, and then they try and force him off to give his seat to staff.....?
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Hope this airline gets boycotted.
He bought a ticket and was in his seat, and then they try and force him off to give his seat to staff.....?
imagine if this happened to a paying customer in a room at the Mirage!
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The internet isn't boiling over about any of the other injustices in the world. This just became a big deal because people hate airlines and all the bullshit of flying. The chinaman isn't the issue.
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UNITED: Jesus, screwed the pooch. How goddamn stupid can a mothereffer be.
SPICER: Hold my Pepsi.
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I have to agree with everyone on this.
The gentleman was very lucky to be able to purchase a ticket. At any point the airline should be able to discriminate against its clients.
This man should have caught more of a beating, just to ensure this behavior doesn't happen again.
I wish airports employed more enforcers, let's not forget you can over power a whole plane with a box cutter.
BeThere didn't you work for an airline? If so what is proper protocol when beating a customer off a plane?
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and the royal family doesn't add to "the history" ???
The history is there already imo. What has the Queen done in the last 60 years that anyone cares about? I think people go to London to see Big Ben, Parliament, Westminster abbey, tower of London, Picadilly Circus, Buckingham Palace etc. I don't know how much would change if they didn't have a current monarchy anymore. I mean, I don't live there, so it doesn't really matter to me or concern me. Just an opinion.
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and the royal family doesn't add to "the history" ???
Of course they do.
France doesn't have a Royal family any more & Plenty of History
France has more tourists visitors Than We Do in The UK.
Not having a royal family would be a massive step forward for the UK
& Likely have Negligible affect on Tourism.
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The history is there already imo. What has the Queen done in the last 60 years that anyone cares about? I think people go to London to see Big Ben, Parliament, Westminster abbey, tower of London, Picadilly Circus, Buckingham Palace etc. I don't know how much would change if they didn't have a current monarchy anymore. I mean, I don't live there, so it doesn't really matter to me or concern me. Just an opinion.
And a good opinion.
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He still had the same rights as everybody else on that plane.
nobody on that plane had the right to disregard authorities
It's a difference of perspective.
oh.... ::), tho many blacks would agree
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The history is there already imo. What has the Queen done in the last 60 years that anyone cares about? I think people go to London to see Big Ben, Parliament, Westminster abbey, tower of London, Picadilly Circus, Buckingham Palace etc. I don't know how much would change if they didn't have a current monarchy anymore. I mean, I don't live there, so it doesn't really matter to me or concern me. Just an opinion.
It's not like crowds of people are heading to the UK for meet and greets with the royal family. They will become history plain and simple.
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Look. If asians were meant to fly they would have invented airplanes.
these gook jokes r teh funny – aisians look creepy, fyi... just look at their faces in the 'hot asian' thread... even with a decent body those freak shows r creepazoids
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down $1.4 Billion
Its nothing, in a few minutes it will fluctuate back up $2.8 billion and balance out to gain, that i show the market works it fluctuates billions ever day
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http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-stock-drop/ (http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-stock-drop/)
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down $1.4 Billion
Its nothing, in a few minutes it will fluctuate back up $2.8 billion and balance out to gain, that i show the market works it fluctuates billions ever day
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http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-stock-drop/ (http://fortune.com/2017/04/11/united-airlines-stock-drop/)
You know so little about how this works. Please stop while you're behind.
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You know so little about how this works. Please stop while you're behind.
Explain to him how it works.
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Explain to him how it works.
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This thread has gone to utter shit.
bring back the funny
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Explain to him how it works.
He's citing an article that talks about a 1.4 billion dollar loss. It's based on the lowest the stock went in "pre-market" trading. UAL is down less then 1% from the day before the incident happened. Which is nothing, especially considering the overall market has been lower the last two days. The fluctuation of market cap happens every day. Apple, FB, any large companies' market cap can fluctuate billions of dollars every day. It's not a loss. They make the headline juicer by saying "United loses 500 million in value" instead of saying "United down 2% in trading" So dummies see that and are like OMG OMG. If united's revenue plummeted, that would be a big deal. But that's not what has happened so far.
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He's citing an article that talks about a 1.4 billion dollar loss. It's based on the lowest the stock went in "pre-market" trading. UAL is down less then 1% from the day before the incident happened. Which is nothing, especially considering the overall market has been lower the last two days. The fluctuation of market cap happens every day. Apple, FB, any large companies' market cap can fluctuate billions of dollars every day. It's not a loss. They make the headline juicer by saying "United loses 500 million in value" instead of saying "United down 2% in trading" So dummies see that and are like OMG OMG. If united's revenue plummeted, that would be a big deal. But that's not what has happened so far.
But there is a risk that it will plummet after this debacle no?
We will just have to follow it more closely the next few days.
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But there is a risk that it will plummet after this debacle no?
We will just have to follow it more closely the next few days.
There's risk in any investment. The worst is probably over and it was basically a non-event stock price wise.
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But there is a risk that it will plummet after this debacle no?
there is a risk of White jesus coming to nuke u tards into oblivion. fear him.
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there is a risk of White jesus coming to nuke u tards into oblivion. fear him.
Not a risk. A chance.
PS. I'm white jesus.
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Not a risk. A chance.
lol ::)
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PS. I'm white jesus.
also, if u was White jesus u'd have much better taste in asses.
White jesus is intelligent, therefore appreciates appropriate aesthetics.
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also, if u was White jesus u'd have much better taste in asses.
White jesus is intelligent, therefore appreciates appropriate aesthetics.
And thusly, my taste is divine and godly.
So sayeth the Lord.
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And thusly, my taste is divine and godly.
So sayeth the Lord.
hahaha, how dare u................ ::) (satan wouldn't even like them fat asses)
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They should've just kept upping the price until someone volunteered. Shit, even if it was $10,000 in vouchers it would be negligible compared to this.
That's why I fly Delta, my United experience has always been soso. I have three kids and flew with them and my wife business class to Europe (que Calvin to make a remark about how I'm subtly mentioning money in a thread ::) ;D). My little one was under two, and even though I paid for his seat, he still sat on our laps. It was just easier once we were on the plane, and anyone with a kid would understand what I mean. Anyway, on the way back from France, the stewardess told me that he had to return to his seat. I'm say, "he's under two and there's another baby on the parents lap over there, plus I paid for his seat". She told me that they couldn't have an empty seat on the plane while there were people on standby. I told her that was fine, she could have the seat, but I wanted my $3,200 back that I paid for it. She told me that wasn't their policy. I asked if she was selling the seat to the person on standby, and she said yes, in a round about way. I told her that wasn't going to happen. They then had to get a manager to speak to us and when I explained again, that if they wanted the seat they would have to comp me for it, and she told me she had to speak with the pilot. About three minutes later when we started pushing back, I realized I had got my way. I've never had issues like that on Delta or Lufthansa but the two times I've flown United/Continental I've had a bad experience with their customer service.
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hahaha, how dare u................ ::) (satan wouldn't even like them fat asses)
Satan would've just kept upping the price until someone volunteered.
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The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying. Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained. Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.
By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.
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The United stock price is now less then 1/2 a percent lower then it was before the incident. Also know as big fucking deal.
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The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying. Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained. Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.
By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.
LOL, imagine paying for a room, and going to bed for the night, getting woken up in the middle of the night and punched bloody by the staff before getting kicked out. lol
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wtf s up with the youtube button
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI)
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Boycotting an airline won't work so well. Times and destinations are shared by the airlines so having your pick isn't usually an option.
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#Not all Europeans
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Yes, of course you are right and I thought I made that clear.
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His situation is no different than if a person paid for a hotel room, checked in, unpacked, and went to bed. Then, the hotel staff comes and knocks on the door and says, "Sorry sir, but we've got some employees who need a room for the night. You have been randomly selected to give up your room. Please pack your shit and GTFO!" My response who be, "Tell your employees to fuck off and find another hotel, I've already paid for this room, and I've got an early meeting in the morning!"
Excellent example!
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Boycotting an airline won't work so well. Times and destinations are shared by the airlines so having your pick isn't usually an option.
Better boycott an airline than a hairline.
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His situation is no different than if a person paid for a hotel room, checked in, unpacked, and went to bed. Then, the hotel staff comes and knocks on the door and says, "Sorry sir, but we've got some employees who need a room for the night. You have been randomly selected to give up your room. Please pack your shit and GTFO!" My response who be, "Tell your employees to fuck off and find another hotel, I've already paid for this room, and I've got an early meeting in the morning!"
It is different. Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room. On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.
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The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying. Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained. Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.
By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.
wah wah
the tragedy of first world problems.
the pussies in this place is something else.
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It is different. Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room. On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.
you're right. it's totally different. what a stupid comparison.
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They should've just kept upping the price until someone volunteered. Shit, even if it was $10,000 in vouchers it would be negligible compared to this.
That's why I fly Delta, my United experience has always been soso. I have three kids and flew with them and my wife business class to Europe (que Calvin to make a remark about how I'm subtly mentioning money in a thread ::) ;D). My little one was under two, and even though I paid for his seat, he still sat on our laps. It was just easier once we were on the plane, and anyone with a kid would understand what I mean. Anyway, on the way back from France, the stewardess told me that he had to return to his seat. I'm say, "he's under two and there's another baby on the parents lap over there, plus I paid for his seat". She told me that they couldn't have an empty seat on the plane while there were people on standby. I told her that was fine, she could have the seat, but I wanted my $3,200 back that I paid for it. She told me that wasn't their policy. I asked if she was selling the seat to the person on standby, and she said yes, in a round about way. I told her that wasn't going to happen. They then had to get a manager to speak to us and when I explained again, that if they wanted the seat they would have to comp me for it, and she told me she had to speak with the pilot. About three minutes later when we started pushing back, I realized I had got my way. I've never had issues like that on Delta or Lufthansa but the two times I've flown United/Continental I've had a bad experience with their customer service.
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The CEO decided, after probably his stock investors and PR firm told him how pathetic he was, to basically agree to everything that the public was saying. Apologies, they were wrong, it will never happen again, and then went and blamed the first line supervisor on this. Really, then that person should be FIRED. Retrained. Problem it isnt just the supervisior - it is also a lot of their staff that just don't care and are arrogant. That needs to stop.
By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.
Agreed I'm with Ron on this one.
Especially--
"By the way, the CEO knows it is going to cost them a ton of money.
You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit."
Now that would be hilarious poetic justice.
Wish he'd stay at a house of mine.
I'd kick him out at about 3.30am - I bet I'd hear the fucker whinge & whine then.
;D
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It is different. Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room. On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.
It sounds like you know a lot about airline and hotel contracts.
Are you involved in some elite level schomedom?
What can you tell me about rental cars?
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and you are an even bigger pussy to be here
in that case, responding makes you the grand smelly pussy
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in that case, responding makes you the grand smelly pussy
No, that's me, since i'm quoting. (using the forums quote-function)
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The United stock price is now less then 1/2 a percent lower then it was before the incident. Also know as big fucking deal.
May, June, July, August, and September are busy months for air travel. Most of those tickets probably haven't been bought yet. The stock market thinks on a very short time horizon. Wait for the real adjustment after the next two quarterly reports. As you said, the company is in no risk of going under, but the same CEO may not be in place a year from now.
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wtf s up with the youtube button
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNjjK8SNaDI)
Seems to be ok for others but hasn't worked for me in months. Looks like I'll have to schedule another conference with Ron 'Ear, Nose, and Throat Man' Avidan in his limo in the alley.
Hope you've had your tonsils out.
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United just isued a full refund to every passager on that flight
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Arrive as a Doctor, Leave as a Patient
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United just isued a full refund to every passager on that flight
Just trying to head off the 'emotional distress' cases at the legal pass. Well I've lost 12% of my usual enjoyment of masturbating to skycunt porn ever since witnessing the events of that fateful day. Where's my fookin money?
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Wow - it just gets better with these idiots - now they are offering refunds to EVERYONE on that flight because of their stupidity.
"United Airlines struggled on Wednesday to respond to a third day of public outrage over widely shared videos of a passenger being dragged off an airplane, offering a refund to every passenger on the flight and promising to no longer have the police remove passengers from planes that are too full".
Also, the other two officers now are also being placed on 'administrative leave' from the Chicago Department of Aviation.
"On Wednesday, lawyers for Dr. Dao asked an Illinois court to order United to preserve surveillance footage, a cockpit voice recording and other information related to the flight, and they announced a news conference with a daughter of Dr. Dao would take place Thursday morning in Chicago"
Also, more stories of United's pathetic employees...
http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html
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Wow - even other airlines are going after United.
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It is different. Nowhere in a hotel agreement does it state you can be involuntarily bumped from your room. On an airline it's stated in the agreement that as a passenger, you may be subject to it.
False. UA's contract states that they can deny a passenger from boarding the plane if it is overbooked. The denial would occur at the gates when the person is trying to board the flight. This man had already boarded the flight, stowed his luggage, and was seated. UA fucked up on this one, and they are going to get sued. :D
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False. UA's contract states that they can deny a passenger from boarding the plane if it is overbooked. The denial would occur at the gates when the person is trying to board the flight. This man had already boarded the flight, stowed his luggage, and was seated. UA fucked up on this one, and they are going to get sued. :D
lets get this right, you believe one person can singlehandedly scupper an entire flight because he doesnt want to get off a plane when asked?
Seriously?
Federal law allows Airlines to "bump" passengers if they are overbooked.
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I don't understand the legal rational of some Getbiggers who think the airline is in the right.
He effectively entered into a contractual acgreement with the airline for a service, he pays money, so they get him from A to B. Unless there's a tangible reason to remove him I.e. Safety reasons they had no right to remove him. He was sitting down quietly did not assault anyone and even when he was man handled he only tried to cling on to his seat from what I can see.
The error of overbooking was a poor logistical management on the part of the airline and their own failure 100%...hence it is fully responsible for this and punishing a passenger for their own error will not go down well in a court of law which weighs on cases based on the principle of fairness. To me this screams pure arrogance and disregard towards its own clients.
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lets get this right, you believe one person can singlehandedly scupper an entire flight because he doesnt want to get off a plane when asked?
Seriously?
Federal law allows Airlines to "bump" passengers if they are overbooked.
Federal law allows airlines to bump passengers before boarding a plane, in the event the plane is overbooked. This plane was not overbooked. Passengers were allowed to check in and board the plane. UA then decided at the last minute that they needed to get 4 of their employees on that flight, in order to get them to another airport.
This man did nothing wrong, and hopefully he will sue the shit out of UA.
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I don't understand the legal rational of some Getbiggers who think the airline is in the right.
He effectively entered into a contractual acgreement with the airline for a service, he pays money, so they get him from A to B. Unless there's a tangible reason to remove him I.e. Safety reasons they had no right to remove him. He was sitting down quietly did not assault anyone and even when he was man handled he only tried to cling on to his seat from what I can see.
The error of overbooking was a poor logistical management on the part of the airline and their own failure 100%...hence it is fully responsible for this and punishing a passenger for their own error will not go down well in a court of law which weighs on cases based on the principle of fairness. To me this screams pure arrogance and disregard towards its own clients.
The airline was not in the right. The Getbiggers who think this are full of shit.
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you are not allowing for this web site being one where wankers defend the the indefensible
:D
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lets get this right, you believe one person can singlehandedly scupper an entire flight because he doesnt want to get off a plane when asked?
Seriously?
Federal law allows Airlines to "bump" passengers if they are overbooked.
You've worked in the industry, so speak on this.
The passenger was seated, ticket accepted. I know they can remove people at any point (rude and unruly, threatening, drunk) but they can remove customers because they want to use their seat for non priority staff?
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Whatever the rights of the airline company.
Really does any one honestly believe it is the best & right thing to do is to
Forcibly drag off a plane an all ready seated & luggage stowed passenger
(man)of 69 Who was not causing any kind of issue - They Broke his nose knocked
his Front teeth out & he suffered concussion !!!
How would all of you who are sticking up for the airline / cops react if that
Was your father / Brother.
I'm sure you would all say - Well he deserved it. ::)
There were far far better ways to have remedied the situation that united airlines
Had caused themselves by suddenly having the urgent need to transfer 4 of their
Own staff.
The mere fact that the CEO has completely changed his tune & is jumping through
More hoops than a performing dog clearly indicates It wasn't the Right or Best thing to do.
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They Broke his nose knocked his Front teeth out & he suffered concussion !!!
haha awesome
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Whatever the rights of the airline company.
Really does any one honestly believe it is the best & right thing to do is to
Forcibly drag off a plane an all ready seated & luggage stowed passenger
(man)of 69 Who was not causing any kind of issue - They Broke his nose knocked
his Front teeth out & he suffered concussion !!!
How would all of you who are sticking up for the airline / cops react if that
Was your father / Brother.
I'm sure you would all say - Well he deserved it. ::)
There were far far better ways to have remedied the situation that united airlines
Had caused themselves by suddenly having the urgent need to transfer 4 of their
Own staff.
The mere fact that the CEO has completely changed his tune & is jumping through
More hoops than a performing dog clearly indicates It wasn't the Right or Best thing to do.
This.
I think we all understand the airline company owns the plane, it's private property, no one argues that.
That said they can't just do whatever they want, because if they could why wouldn't they ban individuals who look like they could be Muslim? The answer is because they can't do whatever they like.
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That shit never would have happened with Vince Basile's airline
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They Broke his nose knocked his Front teeth out & he suffered concussion !!!
His front teeth weren't knocked out when went back onto the aircraft. I take it it's typical Lawyer embellishment of damages. i.e. bumping your head becomes a concussion. A bleeding nose becomes a broken nose, etc.
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His front teeth weren't knocked out when went back onto the aircraft. I take it it's typical Lawyer embellishment of damages. i.e. bumping your head becomes a concussion. A bleeding nose becomes a broken nose, etc.
Don't matter. This ain't gonna go to court. Many millions of tax free dollars will be paid to the Doctor in a settlement
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one would think UA prices would be at an all time low.
NOPE
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one would think UA prices would be at an all time low.
NOPE
And, just when you thought there was no corporate support, along comes PL. Like clockwork.
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And, just when you thought there was no corporate support, along comes PL. Like clockwork.
Waddle along now, Lancelot Link. Don't you have a manana to suck? Fooking libtard.
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Waddle along now, Lancelot Link. Don't you have a manana to suck? Fooking libtard.
Easy, now. You almost used a big word, there. Might hurt yourself. ::)
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Easy, now. You almost used a big word, there. Might hurt yourself. ::)
Alllll righty then. Pathetic imitation of life that you are.
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Alllll righty then. Pathetic imitation of life that you are.
;D Let me guess. Divorced. Kids don't talk to you. Saturday CostCo runs and washing the pickup are big events.
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Alllll righty then. Pathetic imitation of life that you are.
What does this mean, Scott? You use it quite a bit.
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This.
I think we all understand the airline company owns the plane, it's private property, no one argues that.
That said they can't just do whatever they want, because if they could why wouldn't they ban individuals who look like they could be Muslim? The answer is because they can't do whatever they like.
because federal law doesn't say they can, federal law says they can 'bump' passengers so they can.
should they be able to bump passengers, no, but its the law, dont mix morality with the law.
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Americans have a strong sense of individual rights and we have a history of one person standing up to the masses when that individual believes there has been an injustice. Rosa Parks comes to mind. And though that perceived injustice may in fact be legal we also distinguish between legality and morality. What the law allows and what is the right thing to do is often quite different. Adultery may be legal but most think it is immoral or wrong.
In this dispute between a buyer and a seller, the seller may very well have been within their legal right but it is the way they handled it is what makes them the clear loser in this business dispute. They have already paid a heavy penalty, far more than they would have if only United just paid the amount that at least one of the passengers would have determine is a fair trade off between their time and inconvenience versus additional income. Much like people do routinely when they give up their weekend to work additional hours for overtime pay. And I'm sure additional penalties are likely to come.
In addition, one man, just one man, who refused to be pushed around because one group claims greater authority and employs others with guns and badges and with greater numbers to overpower you and do you physical harm, quite possibly has sent an entire industry on notice and force them to reconsider how they treat their paying customers making things better for the rest of us.
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Americans have a strong sense of individual rights and we have a history of one person standing up to the masses when that individual believes there has been an injustice. Rosa Parks comes to mind. And though that perceived injustice may in fact be legal we also distinguish between legality and morality. What the law allows and what is the right thing to do is often quite different. Adultery may be legal but most think it is immoral or wrong.
In this dispute between a buyer and a seller, the seller may very well have been within their legal right but it is the way they handled it is what makes them the clear loser in this business dispute. They have already paid a heavy penalty, far more than they would have if only United just paid the amount that at least one of the passengers would have determine is a fair trade off between their time and inconvenience versus additional income. Much like people do routinely when they give up their weekend to work additional hours for overtime pay. And I'm sure additional penalties are likely to come.
In addition, one man, just one man, who refused to be pushed around because one group claims greater authority and employs others with guns and badges and with greater numbers to overpower you and do you physical harm, quite possibly has sent an entire industry on notice and force them to reconsider how they treat their paying customers making things better for the rest of us.
Rosa Parks is why your country is in such a mess.
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Rosa Parks is why your country is in such a mess.
Again it's a matter of perspective and world view. I consider allowing a man or woman of any color to sit anywhere they choose on a bus funded by tax payers to be an advance in decency and civility.
As far as our country being a mess, again compare to who or what? We are the clear leader of the world. The rest of the world looks to us for virtually everything. Our culture dominates the world as others try to be more like us. No nation makes a move without considering very carefully what America's action will be. It's the dream of so many who want a better life to come to America. To be like us. I wonder how many Americans are on non American bbing broads versus non Americans like you on American boards like this one.
And of course it's nice to know that if push came to shove we can kick the ass of any other country in the world. Just one of our aircraft carriers has the military capabilities that would rank 5th in the world compared to the rest of the other nations.
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they had the right to remove him probably
but was the force used reasonable?
on the balance of probabilities no it wasn't
they will settle with him out of court
as the court would likely rule against them
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Again it's a matter of perspective and world view. I consider allowing a man or woman of any color to sit anywhere they choose on a bus funded by tax payers to be an advance in decency and civility.
As far as our country being a mess, again compare to who or what? We are the clear leader of the world. The rest of the world looks to us for virtually everything. Our culture dominates the world as others try to be more like us. No nation makes a move without considering very carefully what America's action will be. It's the dream of so many who want a better life to come to America. To be like us. I wonder how many Americans are on non American bbing broads versus non Americans like you on American boards like this one.
And of course it's nice to know that if push came to shove we can kick the ass of any other country in the world. Just one of our aircraft carriers has the military capabilities that would rank 5th in the world compared to the rest of the other nations.
its comments like this that come from Americans who have a blinkered view of the world because they are Americans.
You have a skewed view of what the world wants or expects from you.
America is the schoolyard bully who naively mistakes fear for respect.
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its comments like this that come from Americans who have a blinkered view of the world because they are Americans.
You have a skewed view of what the world wants or expects from you.
America is the schoolyard bully who naively mistakes fear for respect.
So you disagree that America is the world's leader? That our culture and influence dominates the world. That so many dream of coming to America. That China vis-a-vis Taiwan and North Korea vis-a-vis South Korea would be very different if it was for America.
And what does the world want or expect from America? Well, whenever there's a huge natural disaster or a military invasion no one looks to Britain, France or Germany and asks, "What are they doing to do? When are they going to help?"
As far as America being a bully. I can only wish and hope. We should have just planted our flags and claim Iraqi's oil as our own as we were accused and wanting to do as part of our invasion.
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turns out this "doctor" is a drug pushing scum. Looks like United's algorithms had it right after all.
Yeah, but did he use the drugs to sedate them and then ejaculate on them...?
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You know, hopefully one day, the CEO will get a taste of his own medicine.
Let him go to a hotel, get into the room, and then let them knock at the door once he is settled in, and tell him they need the room for an employee, and kick him out forcefully. Total bullshit.
Most Ron responses I've seen in a thread for a while.... with cursing too..... hmmm....
???
Am I the only one beginning to think that at some point, Ron has been dragged off a plane screaming, "But the bikini pre-judging is tomorrow morning!! Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!111111" ;D
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Most Ron responses I've seen in a thread for a while.... with cursing too..... hmmm....
???
Am I the only one beginning to think that at some point, Ron has been dragged off a plane screaming, "But the bikini pre-judging is tomorrow morning!! Noooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!111111" ;D
Naw, he just travels a lot. If you have to fly a lot the resentment builds and builds on how you are treated by the airlines with United being the most egregious.
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So you disagree that America is the world's leader? That our culture and influence dominates the world. That so many dream of coming to America. That China vis-a-vis Taiwan and North Korea vis-a-vis South Korea would be very different if it was for America.
And what does the world want or expect from America? Well, whenever there's a huge natural disaster or a military invasion no one looks to Britain, France or Germany and asks, "What are they doing to do? When are they going to help?"
As far as America being a bully. I can only wish and hope. We should have just planted our flags and claim Iraqi's oil as our own as we were accused and wanting to do as part of our invasion.
the rest of the world doesn't look to america when there's a natural disaster. we see how badly you deal with your own natural disasters(new orleans springs to mind!). ok when there's a military invasion we do look to america, but that's only because it's usually you doing the invading!
sure your fast food joints, tv/movies, music (mainly black nowadays) do influence the rest of the world. apart from that most sane people see the US as a country of crazy gun toting, war hungry lunatics, intent on pushing the world closer and closer to WW3.
what a lot of people around the world want from the US? to stop with it's perpetual military aggression and stirring shit up in other countries. what the rest of the world expects? ....more of the same.
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America...Fuck yeah!
I say, let the world starve. Especially the fifth world lands filled with lazy indigenous peoples. If any nation stands against us, let them starve. Let them rot under their imported muslim filth. Let their lands be shat upon by fifth worlders and let them lay in the muzzie excrement until it covers their worm ridden souls.
We should export our lazy, libtard populace to their countries. White, black, brown, yellow and red. Give them a Skittles Bag of shit-for-brains libtards that despise those that work for a living. Let those that live here yet hate their own nation move in and share their turds of their labors with the German, the Swiss, the self-shaming cuntlettes of once great homelands. We don't want libtards here. Hate the American way? Deport your worthless, lazy liberal ass to Muz-land stat.
Listen to Byron MacGregor's "The Americans" from over four decades ago. Don't care for us? Don't like our ways? Despise our standards and laws? Think "Sharia" would make a great name for a child bastardized by the likes of Wiggs and his kind (i.e., bedraggled, black supremacists)? Feel that whatever you feel is what you are and everybody had better suck up to you? Go crawl into your safe space in some other fetid fifth world and assume the fecal position, shitass.
Get the fuck out of our way and stay the hell out of America.
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America...Fuck yeah!
I say, let the world starve. Especially the fifth world lands filled with lazy indigenous peoples. If any nation stands against us, let them starve. Let them rot under their imported muslim filth. Let their lands be shat upon by fifth worlders and let them lay in the muzzie excrement until it covers their worm ridden souls.
We should export our lazy, libtard populace to their countries. White, black, brown, yellow and red. Give them a Skittles Bag of shit-for-brains libtards that despise those that work for a living. Let those that live here yet hate their own nation move in and share their turds of their labors with the German, the Swiss, the self-shaming cuntlettes of once great homelands. We don't want libtards here. Hate the American way? Deport your worthless, lazy liberal ass to Muz-land stat.
Listen to Byron MacGregor's "The Americans" from over four decades ago. Don't care for us? Don't like our ways? Despise our standards and laws? Think "Sharia" would make a great name for a child bastardized by the likes of Wiggs and his kind (i.e., bedraggled, black supremacists)? Feel that whatever you feel is what you are and everybody had better suck up to you? Go crawl into your safe space in some other fetid fifth world and assume the fecal position, shitass.
Get the fuck out of our way and stay the hell out of America.
Off topic of peace
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America...Fuck yeah!
I say, let the world starve. Especially the fifth world lands filled with lazy indigenous peoples. If any nation stands against us, let them starve. Let them rot under their imported muslim filth. Let their lands be shat upon by fifth worlders and let them lay in the muzzie excrement until it covers their worm ridden souls.
We should export our lazy, libtard populace to their countries. White, black, brown, yellow and red. Give them a Skittles Bag of shit-for-brains libtards that despise those that work for a living. Let those that live here yet hate their own nation move in and share their turds of their labors with the German, the Swiss, the self-shaming cuntlettes of once great homelands. We don't want libtards here. Hate the American way? Deport your worthless, lazy liberal ass to Muz-land stat.
Listen to Byron MacGregor's "The Americans" from over four decades ago. Don't care for us? Don't like our ways? Despise our standards and laws? Think "Sharia" would make a great name for a child bastardized by the likes of Wiggs and his kind (i.e., bedraggled, black supremacists)? Feel that whatever you feel is what you are and everybody had better suck up to you? Go crawl into your safe space in some other fetid fifth world and assume the fecal position, shitass.
Get the fuck out of our way and stay the hell out of America.
You really think America "liberates" other countries because of "Islam" or "sharia law"?
There's no such thing as free lunch.
America doesn't help Africa/Darfur because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Wars are investments. America is a business. Natural resources are commodities. The have something we want. They have a problem, we solve it in exchange for what we want... And if they don't have a problem,we create one, and solve it.
Gangster 101: Create a problem. Offer a solution.
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because federal law doesn't say they can, federal law says they can 'bump' passengers so they can.
should they be able to bump passengers, no, but its the law, dont mix morality with the law.
Thanks.
I know airlines have a tremendous amount of authority and legal power in terms of rights, but as a publicly traded company this is a bad look.
I agree with your point about not mixing morality with the law but this will play out poorly in public. The fact that they've refunded every ticket from that flight shows the general publics perception matters. But that won't matter once the courts decide.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-11/can-airlines-really-do-that-bumping-and-the-law-quicktake-q-a
The good doctor must have left his paperwork (required by federal law) in his seat.
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You really think America "liberates" other countries because of "Islam" or "sharia law"?
There's no such thing as free lunch.
America doesn't help Africa/Darfur because the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
Wars are investments. America is a business. Natural resources are commodities. The have something we want. They have a problem, we solve it in exchange for what we want... And if they don't have a problem,we create one, and solve it.
Gangster 101: Create a problem. Offer a solution.
A better quextion would be this -
Do I really think you even think when posting dross like this?
Answer - No.
I'm an American. Before anything else, my allegiance is with my homeland. Do I even care about those that are too lazy to care about themselves and want to move to where they can mooch off the hard working? No. I don't want scum here. I don't want the lazy, the drunken, the drug laden. The bastard making, worthless, welfare sucking of this nation and others should be liberated to fifth world countries to waste away with their brethren.
Will this ever happen? I doubt it. I don't doubt that we need to stop giving people, including our own, incentives to come here and leech. People that live here or want to live here should meet our standards, not drag them down.
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because federal law doesn't say they can, federal law says they can 'bump' passengers so they can.
should they be able to bump passengers, no, but its the law, dont mix morality with the law.
Can you please post the US Federal Law that applies/supports what UA did to this passenger? ???
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In a sense, I am on topic. That you fail to note that neither surprises nor saddens me. Here's "on topic".
This "doctor"? Obey the rules or pay the price. If I am asked to leave, I don't have a shit-fit and go limp as Wiggs dick when confronted by a beautiful naked black woman instead of a fat, smelly white bitch with tattoos. I accept that the plane is over-booked and that airlines have rules and I will be compensated by them for my inconvenience.
I don't claim to have "patients" waiting for me tomorrow that need me. If they needed me that much, I would not have left because reality is anything can happen and a flight can be cancelled. This asswipe wants money.
I have had my seat given away because TSA was giving me shit. Did I take it out on the people at the counter? Hell no. I simply smiled, accepted that such is beyond my control and found a seat until tomorrow morning when the next available flight could take me home.
The women of that airline were so surprised at my attitude that after 20 or so minutes they informed me that they and their supervisor had arraigned for a taxi to another airport 70 some miles away and a first class ticket home that night. You can choose to believe me or not. I don't give a shit.
That manlet of a doctor is a bitch and wants money.
Not sure why you need to express a sea of words to make your 'point'. This man payed for his flight and passed the check-in. A bit strange to attack a customer because UA fails to book a flight correctly. That's their problem. Of course he's gonna sue them for this retarded action, every person with enough self-worth would.
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Not sure why you need to express a sea of words to make your 'point'. This man payed for his flight and passed the check-in. A bit strange to attack a customer because UA fails to book a flight correctly. That's their problem. Of course he's gonna sue them for this retarded action, every person with enough self-worth would.
You disagree. Fine. Flights of all carriers are often over booked and the reasoning behind it is economically sound even if we disagree with it.
As for the gift of articulate speech...Well if you prefer the ooga booga of such as Wiggs, then that can be accommodated.
De doc gon beez rich pacifically cuz he don be whitey. 'n' sheit. Wif a mofo here 'n' a mofo there. her a mo there a fo everwhere a mofo.
;D
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De doc gon beez rich pacifically cuz he don be whitey. 'n' sheit. Wif a mofo here 'n' a mofo there. her a mo there a fo everwhere a mofo.
;D
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You disagree. Fine. Flights of all carriers are often over booked and the reasoning behind it is economically sound even if we disagree with it.
As for the gift of articulate speech...Well if you prefer the ooga booga of such as Wiggs, then that can be accommodated.
De doc gon beez rich pacifically cuz he don be whitey. 'n' sheit. Wif a mofo here 'n' a mofo there. her a mo there a fo everwhere a mofo.
;D
I've never booked a flight in the US, so their booking tactics/rules might differ from here. In this particular case they prioritized the flight of 4 staff members over 4 paying customers, who passed the check-in, which is very very wrong.
There's no need to refer to Wiggs, American politics or other things that have nothing to do with it.
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I've never booked a flight in the US, so their booking tactics/rules might differ from here. In this particular case they prioritized the flight of 4 staff members over 4 paying customers, who passed the check-in, which is very very wrong.
There's no need to refer to Wiggs, American politics or other things that have nothing to do with it.
There's no need to refer to my referring to Wiggs if doing so is off topic 'n' sheit. There is no reason to discuss anything outside a topic and yet you, I, we all do so. I understand your point and meaning.
Get over it. Or not.
As for UA. Don't use 'em. As for the "doctor"? Fuck him.
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I've never booked a flight in the US, so their booking tactics/rules might differ from here. In this particular case they prioritized the flight of 4 staff members over 4 paying customers, who passed the check-in, which is very very wrong.
There's no need to refer to Wiggs, American politics or other things that have nothing to do with it.
There's no need to refer to my referring to Wiggs if doing so is off topic 'n' sheit. There is no reason to discuss anything outside a topic and yet you, I, we all do so. I understand your point and meaning.
Get over it. Or not.
As for UA. Don't use 'em. As for the "doctor"? Fuck him.
There's no need for either of you to bring Wiggs into this. Unless we are talking about flat earths and shit, lowering our IQ's, or the impending doom of the Nigguru, leave his name out.
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There's no need to refer to my referring to Wiggs if doing so is off topic 'n' sheit. There is no reason to discuss anything outside a topic and yet you, I, we all do so. I understand your point and meaning.
Get over it. Or not.
As for UA. Don't use 'em. As for the "doctor"? Fuck him.
Fair enough principal friend, maybe you should opt for a job as UA's spokeperson.
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There's no need for either of you to bring Wiggs into this. Unless we are talking about flat earths and shit, lowering our IQ's, or the impending doom of the Nigguru, leave his name out.
;D I beliebers it be spelled "earfs". ;D
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Fair enough principal friend, maybe you should opt for a job as UA's spokeperson.
And give up my lucrative Wal-Mart greeter Gig? C'mon, you'd miss me. A little. Maybe. Maybe not. ;D
Later.
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And give up my lucrative Wal-Mart greeter Gig? C'mon, you'd miss me. A little. Maybe. Maybe not. ;D
Later.
Living outside Muricah, I've never visited a Walmart, but I saw plenty of entertaining/depressing pics from that attraction park
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Living outside Muricah, I've never visited a Walmart, but I saw plenty of entertaining/depressing pics from that attraction park
Yup. I avoid it.
Dammit. We're off-topic. Sorry.
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its comments like this that come from Americans who have a blinkered view of the world because they are Americans.
You have a skewed view of what the world wants or expects from you.
America is the schoolyard bully who naively mistakes fear for respect.
This is how it's always been for any world "leader/power" and it's how it will always be.
America is currently the modern Roman Empire. Eventually some other country will take the United States place and all other country's will hate them.
Someone is always bigger, stronger, more powerful........
We all live from our own nations propaganda.
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Fair enough principal friend, maybe you should opt for a job as UA's spokeperson.
The Scott is the type of guy who obeys authority no matter what--the old school mentality. The Scott is the type of guy who would engage in genocidal acts because an authority figure told him so. As long as an authority figures tells him to do something, he will do it. Shame.
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The Scott is the type of guy who obeys authority no matter what--the old school mentality. The Scott is the type of guy who would engage in genocidal acts because an authority figure told him so. As long as an authority figures tells him to do something, he will do it. Shame.
Not hardly so cease with being a cuntlette. Sheesh. You know only that which your are told.
I seriously doubt you're this much of a mangina in the real world but if you are, you've got few, if any friends. Get your head out of your ass or do you just enjoy eating and chewing your ill chosen words twice?
Go curl up into your fecal position in your safe space.
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The Scott is the type of guy who obeys authority no matter what--the old school mentality. The Scott is the type of guy who would engage in genocidal acts because an authority figure told him so. As long as an authority figures tells him to do something, he will do it. Shame.
The scary thing is that most people act this way, not just the older generation. The difference however is their authority. For most older folks it's the bible and the law and for today's generation it's the marketing industry & social media.
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Thanks.
I know airlines have a tremendous amount of authority and legal power in terms of rights, but as a publicly traded company this is a bad look.
I agree with your point about not mixing morality with the law but this will play out poorly in public. The fact that they've refunded every ticket from that flight shows the general publics perception matters. But that won't matter once the courts decide.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-04-11/can-airlines-really-do-that-bumping-and-the-law-quicktake-q-a
The good doctor must have left his paperwork (required by federal law) in his seat.
public perception doesn't matter in the courts according hat that article.
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Can you please post the US Federal Law that applies/supports what UA did to this passenger? ???
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights
read involuntary bumping
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This is how it's always been for any world "leader/power" and it's how it will always be.
America is currently the modern Roman Empire. Eventually some other country will take the United States place and all other country's will hate them.
Someone is always bigger, stronger, more powerful........
We all live from our own nations propaganda.
I know, its just pellius thinks the USA is envied as opposed to feared.
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Not hardly so cease with being a cuntlette. Sheesh. You know only that which your are told.
I seriously doubt you're this much of a mangina in the real world but if you are, you've got few, if any friends. Get your head out of your ass or do you just enjoy eating and chewing your ill chosen words twice?
Go curl up into your fecal position in your safe space.
Why would I need a safe space? I am no longer an undergraduate college student. When I was in undergraduate college, my generation had zero to do with safe spaces. That is the current generation of college students who are pushing for "safe spaces." Try again, dingus.
We all know that you would do anything an authority figures says. Look at how you act--constantly bowing down to authority figures regarding any issue. Its very sad.
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The scary thing is that most people act this way, not just the older generation. The difference however is their authority. For most older folks it's the bible and the law and for today's generation it's the marketing industry & social media.
So you're afraid of this? Really? That is not scary, just pathetic. I know the difference between rule and spirit of law and doubt you do not. As for SF1900, near as I can tell he's tends toward the libtard side of the bubble.
It's called a play on words.
If you're on a plane and are done wrong by someone that works outside the law (e.g., garden variety assholes versus not duly a appointed LEO), you're going to go limp? You're going to go to your safe space and assume the fecal position turning inward to protect your ego and id and or will you engage your fight or flight to defend yourself and if accompanied by them, your loved ones. Liberals go limp and count on society defending them later if there is a "later". Men fight or if that is not possible, seek to get their loved ones out and if possible themselves. Does this make me a tough guy? Hell no. It makes me a man and a realist. I am not Chuck Norris by an stretch of imagination.
We only know as much about one another as we choose to reveal. I despise social media and will abide by US Law and will work against the imposition of liberalism and/or sharia/liberalism as law in my country. I will not visit nations that would enslave their citizenry to such crap. I'm not here to be real world buddies with anyone, least of all a libtard as presented by SF1900 in his effort to appear sensitive or whatever it is he seeks here. I don't hate such as him but neither do I think I'll ever be truly invited over for a pop and a discussion and wouldn't want to be.
I don't travel to countries that will not protect my rights. If you get down to it, rights are privileges accorded us by governing bodies.
We will never agree on everything but so long as we are on the same page when it comes to what I find important that is what matters to me. Nothing magnanimous implied.
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The scary thing is that most people act this way, not just the older generation. The difference however is their authority. For most older folks it's the bible and the law and for today's generation it's the marketing industry & social media.
Exactly. Its quite sad.
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https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights
read involuntary bumping
"Involuntary Bumping" is a subsection under "Overbooking". This plane was not overbooked. This portion of the law does not pertain to Mr. Dao's situation at all, and does not support what they did. So, again, can you post the portion of the US Federal Law that you keep referencing, that supports what UA did? ???
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Why would I need a safe space? I am no longer an undergraduate college student. When I was in undergraduate college, my generation had zero to do with safe spaces. That is the current generation of college students who are pushing for "safe spaces." Try again, dingus.
We all know that you would do anything an authority figures says. Look at how you act--constantly bowing down to authority figures regarding any issue. Its very sad.
You know nothing but act a fool libtard for the sake of mock discussion. Fuck off until you choose to behave as a man. And while you're at it, get a sense of humor and reality to go with a touch of what it means to be a man. Elsewise, you're going to continue to look like a libtard asshole.
"It's very sad".
Really. It makes you "sad"? How pathetic. Do you still nurse at your mother's teat or just your govenment's? What's next, "meltdown"? We all have a way with words, yours is lacking wit and style. I don't find every aspect of you disagreeable but you seem hell bent on trying to make it so. That doesn't make me "sad". It makes you pathetic. You might want to see if Jenner's balls are available for transplant. Anything has to be better than the pair your sporting now.
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Exactly. Its quite sad.
Being laughed at for dressing "different" in public probably makes you "sad" too. Grow a pair and use them for something other than being kicked in 'em by your dom.
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public perception doesn't matter in the courts according hat that article.
I agree, use the Treyvon Martin case as an example. The public wanted Zimmerman to face the death penalty the courts thought he acted in his legal rights.
Public opinion matters to the corporate brand. They can win the case in a public legal battle but lose it in public image.
At this point I'm sure theyre asking what s most important to their brand.
If the name recognition for United Airlines is forever associated with beating customers they won't recover even if they were in their legal rightss.
Sea World is phasing out orca's largely because of negative backlash from the Blackfish documentary. Despite the fact an orca had killed a handler during a performance and they decided to keep the park open for business. Public opinion will influence corporation.
The right action to settle sith the dr, apologize publicly, institute a new customer satisfaction program and vow to learn from this mistake. the sooner the better, don't drag it out and on. People forget.
Morality matters. Just because you are able to do something doesn't mean you should.
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https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights
read involuntary bumping
just had a quick read through "involuntary bumping" . no mention of passengers being asked to leave a plane once seated. in fact most of the wording makes it pretty obvious that the "bumping" being referred to happens before the flight has been boarded.
for example
"DOT requires each airline to give all passengers who are bumped involuntarily a written statement describing their rights and explaining how the carrier decides who gets on an oversold flight and who doesn't. "
"Airlines set their own "boarding priorities" -- the order in which they will bump different categories of passengers"
Airlines may offer free tickets or dollar-amount vouchers for future flights in place of a check for denied boarding compensation"
any half competent lawyer will have a field day if the airline tries to use those regulations as any sort of defence.
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just had a quick read through "involuntary bumping" . no mention of passengers being asked to leave a plane once seated. in fact most of the wording makes it pretty obvious than the "bumping" being referred to happens before the flight has been boarded.
for example
"DOT requires each airline to give all passengers who are bumped involuntarily a written statement describing their rights and explaining how the carrier decides who gets on an oversold flight and who doesn't. "
"Airlines set their own "boarding priorities" -- the order in which they will bump different categories of passengers"
Airlines may offer free tickets or dollar-amount vouchers for future flights in place of a check for denied boarding compensation"
any half competent lawyer will have a field day if the airline tries to use those regulations as any sort of defence.
I think BT's point is that the airline has the right to refuse service for a variety of reasons, even after seated.
That doesn't make their actions correct.
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I think BT's point is that the airline has the right to refuse service for a variety of reasons, even after seated.
That doesn't make their actions correct.
it doesn't work like that. that's why the there is such a long and exhaustive list of rights and regulations under each heading including "voluntary bumping".
if it were that simple there would only need to be one line "the airline has the right to refuse service at any time for any reason" .
the fact that the regulations only state circumstances that are clearly pre boarding and there is nothing mentioned about being "bumped" post boarding will make it very difficult (impossible) for the airline to use those regs to back a defence. of course it will never make court. the good dr can pretty much name his price.
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You know nothing but act a fool libtard for the sake of mock discussion. Fuck off until you choose to behave as a man. And while you're at it, get a sense of humor and reality to go with a touch of what it means to be a man. Elsewise, you're going to continue to look like a libtard asshole.
"It's very sad".
Really. It makes you "sad"? How pathetic. Do you still nurse at your mother's teat or just your govenment's? What's next, "meltdown"? We all have a way with words, yours is lacking wit and style. I don't find every aspect of you disagreeable but you seem hell bent on trying to make it so. That doesn't make me "sad". It makes you pathetic. You might want to see if Jenner's balls are available for transplant. Anything has to be better than the pair your sporting now.
What does it mean to be a man?
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it doesn't work like that. that's why the there is such a long and exhaustive list of rights and regulations under each heading including "voluntary bumping".
if it were that simple there would only need to be one line "the airline has the right to refuse service at any time for any reason" .
the fact that the regulations only state circumstances that are clearly pre boarding and there is nothing mentioned about being "bumped" post boarding will make it very difficult (impossible) for the airline to use those regs to back a defence. of course it will never make court. the good dr can pretty much name his price.
the good doctor will get fuck all.
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the good doctor will get fuck all.
I think he has already won. 90% of the country is on his side and thinks United are a bunch of dicks.
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I think he has already won. 90% of the country is on his side and thinks United are a bunch of dicks.
x2. They will give him a few hundred thousand and call it a day. They will do this just to appease the masses.
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I think he has already won. 90% of the country is on his side and thinks United are a bunch of dicks.
he has a bust nose missing teeth and the world knows what a squealing bitch he is.
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the good doctor will get fuck all.
hahaha
you've heard of the phrase "you couldn't legislate for that"
that's the reason why in those regs about involuntary bumping all the wording is about who is allowed to "get on" the filght "pre boarding" etc and absolute no wording referring to being bumped post boarding. because no sane minded thought an airline would actually try to eject a passenger off a plane after being seated(for over booking)! no legislation was needed!
i tell you what i will bet you a friendly Ł50 that the chinese fellow will get paid. can paypal the money whoever wins??
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Can you please post the US Federal Law that applies/supports what UA did to this passenger? ???
https://www.transportation.gov/airconsumer/fly-rights
read involuntary bumping
"Involuntary Bumping" is a subsection under "Overbooking". This plane was not overbooked. This portion of the law does not pertain to Mr. Dao's situation at all, and does not support what they did. So, again, can you post the portion of the US Federal Law that you keep referencing, that supports what UA did? ???
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I have no idea why you are still confused, they can and did remove him under the aviation act.
They asked him to leave, his actions after that as in him being load and unruly could be seen to upset other people on the flight, most seemed upset he was removed, but they were upset.
I have already said they shouldn't have done it and it was morally wrong to do it, but was it illegal, in my opinion, no.
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I have no idea why you are still confused, they can and did remove him under the aviation act.
They asked him to leave, his actions after that as in him being load and unruly could be seen to upset other people on the flight, most seemed upset he was removed, but they were upset.
I have already said they shouldn't have done it and it was morally wrong to do it, but was it illegal, in my opinion, no.
I think you're confused. There is nothing in the aviation act that allows UA's actions.
The law allows airlines to deny passengers from boarding, if the flight is over booked. The flight was not overbooked. The law also allows airlines to remove passengers who pose a security threat, or are acting in an aggressive manner. Mr. Dao was neither. He was sitting calmly in his seat when they told him to leave.
So, are you going to post the portion of the aviation act that supports UA's actions? Or, are you going to keep spouting bullshit?
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it doesn't work like that. that's why the there is such a long and exhaustive list of rights and regulations under each heading including "voluntary bumping".
if it were that simple there would only need to be one line "the airline has the right to refuse service at any time for any reason" .
the fact that the regulations only state circumstances that are clearly pre boarding and there is nothing mentioned about being "bumped" post boarding will make it very difficult (impossible) for the airline to use those regs to back a defence. of course it will never make court. the good dr can pretty much name his price.
So you think they have no legal ground to stand on? Their lawyers are just conceding defeat?
I'm on your side bro. United was wrong. However if they decide not to settle, and for the life of me I can't imagine why they wouldn't, I'd have to reason that their lawyers will maintain UA acted within their legal rights.
But since you insist this was an illegal act, who has been arrested for the assault that took place?
One question I have is why did the United employees have tasers?
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I think you're confused. There is nothing in the aviation act that allows UA's actions.
The law allows airlines to deny passengers from boarding, if the flight is over booked. The flight was not overbooked. The law also allows airlines to remove passengers who pose a security threat, or are acting in an aggressive manner. Mr. Dao was neither. He was sitting calmly in his seat when they told him to leave.
So, are you going to post the portion of the aviation act that supports UA's actions? Or, are you going to keep spouting bullshit?
be there doesn't have a clue how the law works. probably due to the fact as he alluded earlier he would never dare challenge authority in the first place.
he posted a link to the gov bill of rights for airline consumers that really defeats his own argument.
UA may possibly be able to argue around the point of whether or not wanting the seats for their own employees is technically still a case of over booking
but there is nothing in the "involuntary bumping" legislation that mentions an airline being permitted to eject a seated passenger due to "over booking" ....everything under that sub heading clearly refers to pre boarding.
now if you pull up the legislation re reasons why an airline can eject a seated passenger unless overbooking is on that list,the airline doesn't have a leg to stand on.
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So you think they have no legal ground to stand on? Their lawyers are just conceding defeat?
I'm on your side bro. United was wrong. However if they decide not to settle, and for the life of me I can't imagine why they wouldn't, I'd have to reason that their lawyers will maintain UA acted within their legal rights.
But since you insist this was an illegal act, who has been arrested for the assault that took place?
One question I have is why did the United employees have tasers?
well if they decide not to settle then i suppose we will see it tested who is legally in the right. as i said i'm prepared to bet with anyone who thinks UA will not settle and win a legal case.
not sure why no arrests....did the dr report it as an assault to the police ? or is he just going after the airline in a civil case? tbh it doesn't even need to qualify as an assault for him to legally challenge the legality of his removal.
i'm sure i heard the security guards responsible for his removal have been suspended(?) if that's the case that should tell you something.
re tazers. probably in case of emergency, controlling drunk passenger/terrorist attack etc.
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be there doesn't have a clue how the law works. probably due to the fact as he alluded earlier he would never dare challenge authority in the first place.
he posted a link to the gov bill of rights for airline consumers that really defeats his own argument.
UA may possibly be able to argue around the point of whether or not wanting the seats for their own employees is technically still a case of over booking
but there is nothing in the "involuntary bumping" legislation that mentions an airline being permitted to eject a seated passenger due to "over booking" ....everything under that sub heading clearly refers to pre boarding.
now if you pull up the legislation re reasons why an airline can eject a seated passenger unless overbooking is on that list,the airline doesn't have a leg to stand on.
I tend to put 5 seconds thought into most post I put on here, dont take it too seriously.
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I tend to put 5 seconds thought into most post I put on here, dont take it too seriously.
this is the internet bro ....you gotta take this sheet seriously!
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Be There is correct about 99.9% of things; however, I think he is mistaken here.
Lets hope Be There can modify his opinion in order to better meet the collective agreement of getbiggers.
I know he will pull through.
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Be There is correct about 99.9% of things; however, I think he is mistaken here.
Lets hope Be There can modify his opinion in order to better meet the collective agreement of getbiggers.
I know he will pull through.
Pure fluke
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Be There is correct about 99.9% of things, 40% of the time; however, I think he is mistaken here.
Lets hope Be There can modify his opinion in order to better meet the collective agreement of getbiggers.
I know he will pull through.
Fixed.
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the cops were told to remove the man. so you think the cops would just change their minds? they were told to ask the man to leave and told him he would be removed if he didn't comply. the man refused to comply. and was threatening to sue before they even touched him. there is videos of him saying this below
either way he was going to be removed. bad call by the airline staff yes. the cops were doing their jobs and carrying out orders. and any sane person knows that once they ask you to do something its do to or they will physically make you comply.
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What does it mean to be a man?
"A way with words," it seems. Yours apparently lack "wit and style."
'N' sheeit.
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"A way with words," it seems. Yours apparently lack "wit and style."
'N' sheeit.
The Ugly knows and speaks de troof.
Humor is needed and I have it about myself and the real world. Without it, I would be even stupider.
'n' sheeeeit.
But if SF wants to know what it means to be a man, he need only look within. Whether or not he's lacking is entirely up to him. If he's satisfied with his way of looking at things, then he's a man in his world. Not a big deal.
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the cops were told to remove the man. so you think the cops would just change their minds? they were told to ask the man to leave and told him he would be removed if he didn't comply. the man refused to comply. and was threatening to sue before they even touched him. there is videos of him saying this below
either way he was going to be removed. bad call by the airline staff yes. the cops were doing their jobs and carrying out orders. and any sane person knows that once they ask you to do something its do to or they will physically make you comply.
Thank you.
It was the police who removed him.
I think this enforces BeThere's point about the airlines "rights".
That said this won't end well for United.
Again I'm on the doctors side. But police have free reign to do what they want (again I know this isn't the "law" but as we've seen they can react and sort it out later. They call the shots.).
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"A way with words," it seems. Yours apparently lack "wit and style."
'N' sheeit.
I don't think The Scott knows what it means to be a man. :-\ :-\ :-\
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Thank you.
It was the police who removed him.
I think this enforces BeThere's point about the airlines "rights".
That said this won't end well for United.
Again I'm on the doctors side. But police have free reign to do what they want (again I know this isn't the "law" but as we've seen they can react and sort it out later. They call the shots.).
Police do not have free reign to do whatever they want. They have SOP's they have to follow, just like any other industry. Per their SOP's, they should have never boarded that plane.
"There was even confusion among officers about their duties. Jeff Redding, the deputy commissioner of security for the aviation department, said officers are instructed not to board planes unless there's an imminent threat."
Even the UA CEO is now admitting that they royally fucked up.
"This will never happen again," Munoz told ABC News' "Good Morning America" in an exclusive interview."We are not going to put a law enforcement official onto a plane to take them off … to remove a booked, paid, seated passenger. We can't do that."
"It was a system failure," Munoz said. "We have not provided our frontline supervisors and managers and individuals with the proper procedures that would allow them to use their common sense.
"They all have an incredible amount of common sense, and this issue could have been solved by that," he added. "This is on me. I have to fix that, and I think that's something we can do."
And yes, Dr. Dao will be rich beyond his wildest imagination.
"In an instance like this, it would be beyond insanity to do anything more than bring [Dao] into a conference room and basically say there's a check on the desk, it's signed, just fill in the amount," said New York trial attorney Randy Zelin.
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Police do not have free reign to do whatever they want. They have SOP's they have to follow, just like any other industry. Per their SOP's, they should have never boarded that plane.
"There was even confusion among officers about their duties. Jeff Redding, the deputy commissioner of security for the aviation department, said officers are instructed not to board planes unless there's an imminent threat."
Even the UA CEO is now admitting that they royally fucked up.
"This will never happen again," Munoz told ABC News' "Good Morning America" in an exclusive interview."We are not going to put a law enforcement official onto a plane to take them off … to remove a booked, paid, seated passenger. We can't do that."
"It was a system failure," Munoz said. "We have not provided our frontline supervisors and managers and individuals with the proper procedures that would allow them to use their common sense.
"They all have an incredible amount of common sense, and this issue could have been solved by that," he added. "This is on me. I have to fix that, and I think that's something we can do."
And yes, Dr. Dao will be rich beyond his wildest imagination.
"In an instance like this, it would be beyond insanity to do anything more than bring [Dao] into a conference room and basically say there's a check on the desk, it's signed, just fill in the amount," said New York trial attorney Randy Zelin.
Lol you don't even read the posts only what you want.
Tell a police officer that they're over stepping their legal boundary and see how far you get. I'm sure if you were on that plane you'd made sure that they knew what they could and couldn't do.
I've always said UA was wrong. But they didn't physically remove the passenger the police did. The police must have not known they were in over their heads legally. Were those officers arrested? Surely they can't just do what they want.....
Just read what I said instead of arguing.
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Lol you don't even read the posts only what you want.
Tell a police officer that they're over stepping their legal boundary and see how far you get. I'm sure if you were on that plane you'd made sure that they knew what they could and couldn't do.
I've always said UA was wrong. But they didn't physically remove the passenger the police did. The police must have not known they were in over their heads legally. Were those officers arrested? Surely they can't just do what they want.....
Just read what I said instead of arguing.
Twaddle is a getbigger and knows a lot more than most people.
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Lol you don't even read the posts only what you want.
Tell a police officer that they're over stepping their legal boundary and see how far you get. I'm sure if you were on that plane you'd made sure that they knew what they could and couldn't do.
I've always said UA was wrong. But they didn't physically remove the passenger the police did. The police must have not known they were in over their heads legally. Were those officers arrested? Surely they can't just do what they want.....
Just read what I said instead of arguing.
Sorry, I just re read your post. It was your poor wording that confused me. :D
As for the police being arrested? No, they have not been arrested. However, they are on administrative leave while an investigation is conducted. If they are found to be at fault, they could likely stand to be charged with assault. At the minimum, they will most likely be disciplined for policy violations.
Hope this helps! :)
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Twaddle is a getbigger and knows a lot more than most people.
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I don't think The Scott knows what it means to be a man. :-\ :-\ :-\
Riiiight...I do know a cuntlette when I read one and no braille is necessary to see you are just that. Pussified cuntlette, aka a White Wiggs.
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Sorry, I just re read your post. It was your poor wording that confused me. :D
As for the police being arrested? No, they have not been arrested. However, they are on administrative leave while an investigation is conducted. If they are found to be at fault, they could likely stand to be charged with assault. At the minimum, they will most likely be disciplined for policy violations.
Hope this helps! :)
I may be a poor communicator. :(
I think everyone hopes this guy gets paid.
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I don't think The Scott knows what it means to be a man. :-\ :-\ :-\
He certainly knows who's NOT.
What with all the manlets and cuntlettes; the negroidal, flat-earf Wiggsian hebroes; the Sharia-lovin' hoMohammeders filthing up the SchmOlympia or Cirque du SoGhey; or the pathetic, imitation-of-life Hollyweird libtards, fecal positioning away in their safe spaces.
Men?
Fuck that noise.
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He certainly knows who's NOT.
What with all the manlets and cuntlettes; the negroidal, flat-earf Wiggsian hebroes; the Sharia-lovin' hoMohammaders filthing up the SchmOlympia or Cirque du SoGhey; or the pathetic, imitation-of-life Hollyweird libtards, fecal positioning away in their safe spaces.
Real men?
Fuck that noise.
All else aside, well done sir. ;D
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Riiiight...I do know a cuntlette when I read one and no braille is necessary to see you are just that. Pussified cuntlette, aka a White Wiggs.
Blah, blah, cuck this, cuck that!! ZZZZZZZZZ. Not very original, are you?
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He certainly knows who's NOT.
What with all the manlets and cuntlettes; the negroidal, flat-earf Wiggsian hebroes; the Sharia-lovin' hoMohammeders filthing up the SchmOlympia or Cirque du SoGhey; or the pathetic, imitation-of-life Hollyweird libtards, fecal positioning away in their safe spaces.
Men?
Fuck that noise.
He's like a broken recorder. Just recycles the same stuff every time.
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He's like a broken recorder. Just recycles the same stuff every time.
For kicks, search one of his clever buzzwords up top: "manlet" or "hebroe," for instance. (Stay away from "libtard," it'll crash your computer.) Then count how many of his posts show up.
You won't f'n believe it.
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I may be a poor communicator. :(
I think everyone hopes this guy gets paid.
I don't.
Musclecenter should have just gone with the program and got off willingly.
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Musclecenter is about to get paid:
http://www.ibtimes.com/how-much-money-will-david-dao-make-united-airlines-2525475
“Dr. Dao will likely get millions here,” James Goodnow, an attorney with the Lamber-Goodnow Injury Law Team at Fennemore Craig, who is licensed in Chicago, told International Business Times in an interview Thursday. “The only question is how many zeros will follow the first number.”
Dao has a number of claims against both the city of Chicago and United. First and foremost, he has an assault and battery case.
“This is going to be a slam dunk, a no-brainer, an easy win,” Goodnow told IBT. “It’s documented on multiple cell phones. There’s no question.”
Other claims will likely include breach of contract, false imprisonment, defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress.
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So you think they have no legal ground to stand on? Their lawyers are just conceding defeat?
I'm on your side bro. United was wrong. However if they decide not to settle, and for the life of me I can't imagine why they wouldn't, I'd have to reason that their lawyers will maintain UA acted within their legal rights.
But since you insist this was an illegal act, who has been arrested for the assault that took place?
One question I have is why did the United employees have tasers?
Good points.
In complicated cases where the law is unclear, the side of appearances and public opinion tends to prevail in court.
Are appearances and public opinion favoring which side?
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Good points.
In complicated cases where the law is unclear, the side of appearances and public opinion tends to prevail in court.
Are appearances and public opinion favoring which side?
here's an interesting analysis from some air travel website.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/04/11/united-denied-boarding-illegal/
"So far the conversation has centered around how this passenger was involuntarily denied boarding. The Department of Transportation has specific guidelines in place for how airlines can deny boarding to passengers. However, that may not be the case at all here. First let me say that I’m not a lawyer, so take what I say with a grain of salt (though I’ve talked to some lawyer friends about this, and they seem to have a similar perspective).
The passenger wasn’t denied boarding — he had a confirmed seat, and was allowed to board and take that seat.
Later they come onboard and asked him to get off the plane. At that point that’s no longer being denied boarding, but rather being refused transport. United’s contract of carriage addresses both of these situations:
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding denied boarding compensation
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding refusal to transport
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
The contract of carriage lists a bunch of reasons that the airline can refuse transport to someone, though a flight being oversold after a passenger has boarded isn’t one of them. In looking at the Department of Transportation regulations"
pretty much identical to how i see this playing out. rather than being ambiguous i think the legislation is pretty clear.
i think there is a way out for the security guards/police. depending what they say was the reason the airline gave them for removing the passenger.
they may have been under the impression that the passenger was just behaving badly rather knowing the specifics. in that case as long as it's judged they removed him using no more than reasonable force they may be able to get off the hook. the airline has no chance.
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here's an interesting analysis from some air travel website.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/04/11/united-denied-boarding-illegal/
"So far the conversation has centered around how this passenger was involuntarily denied boarding. The Department of Transportation has specific guidelines in place for how airlines can deny boarding to passengers. However, that may not be the case at all here. First let me say that I’m not a lawyer, so take what I say with a grain of salt (though I’ve talked to some lawyer friends about this, and they seem to have a similar perspective).
The passenger wasn’t denied boarding — he had a confirmed seat, and was allowed to board and take that seat.
Later they come onboard and asked him to get off the plane. At that point that’s no longer being denied boarding, but rather being refused transport. United’s contract of carriage addresses both of these situations:
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding denied boarding compensation
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding refusal to transport
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
The contract of carriage lists a bunch of reasons that the airline can refuse transport to someone, though a flight being oversold after a passenger has boarded isn’t one of them. In looking at the Department of Transportation regulations"
pretty much identical to how i see this playing out. rather than being ambiguous i think the legislation is pretty clear.
i think there is a way out for the security guards/police. depending what they say was the reason the airline gave them for removing the passenger.
they may have been under the impression that the passenger was just behaving badly rather knowing the specifics. in that case as long as it's judged they removed him using no more than reasonable force they may be able to get off the hook. the airline has no chance.
happy to read that!
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here's an interesting analysis from some air travel website.
http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2017/04/11/united-denied-boarding-illegal/
"So far the conversation has centered around how this passenger was involuntarily denied boarding. The Department of Transportation has specific guidelines in place for how airlines can deny boarding to passengers. However, that may not be the case at all here. First let me say that I’m not a lawyer, so take what I say with a grain of salt (though I’ve talked to some lawyer friends about this, and they seem to have a similar perspective).
The passenger wasn’t denied boarding — he had a confirmed seat, and was allowed to board and take that seat.
Later they come onboard and asked him to get off the plane. At that point that’s no longer being denied boarding, but rather being refused transport. United’s contract of carriage addresses both of these situations:
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding denied boarding compensation
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec25
Here’s the contract of carriage regarding refusal to transport
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx#sec21
The contract of carriage lists a bunch of reasons that the airline can refuse transport to someone, though a flight being oversold after a passenger has boarded isn’t one of them. In looking at the Department of Transportation regulations"
pretty much identical to how i see this playing out. rather than being ambiguous i think the legislation is pretty clear.
i think there is a way out for the security guards/police. depending what they say was the reason the airline gave them for removing the passenger.
they may have been under the impression that the passenger was just behaving badly rather knowing the specifics. in that case as long as it's judged they removed him using no more than reasonable force they may be able to get off the hook. the airline has no chance.
I agree with this. You can't blame the cops/security guards. the guilty party is the airline company.
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Fixed.
exactly, if you get proved wrong just claim you were trolling.... ;D
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https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/physician-dragged-off-flight-settles-united-192558121.html (https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/physician-dragged-off-flight-settles-united-192558121.html)
Physician who was dragged off flight settles with United
CHICAGO (AP) -- The passenger who was dragged off a United flight after he refused to give up his seat to airline employees settled with the airline for an undisclosed sum Thursday in an apparent attempt by the company to put the fiasco behind it as quickly as possible.
David Dao's legal team said in a brief statement that the agreement includes a provision that the amount will remain confidential. One his lawyers praised United CEO Oscar Munoz.
Munoz "said he was going to do the right thing, and he has," Thomas Demetrio said in the statement. "In addition, United has taken full responsibility for what happened ... without attempting to blame others, including the city of Chicago."
The settlement came less than three weeks after the episode, before Dao had even sued. The deal means United will not face a lawsuit that could have been costly, both in legal bills and in further public-relations damage.
United issued a brief statement, saying it was pleased to report "an amicable resolution of the unfortunate incident that occurred aboard Flight 3411."
Cellphone video of the April 9 confrontation aboard a jetliner at Chicago's O'Hare Airport sparked widespread public outrage over the way Dao was treated.
The footage showed airport police officers pulling the 69-year-old Kentucky physician from his seat and dragging him down the aisle. His lawyer said he lost teeth and suffered a broken nose and a concussion.
In a phone interview with The Associated Press, Demetrio said the settlement also averts any lawsuit against the city of Chicago. Airport police officers who work for the city pulled Dao off the jet.
"I praise Mr. Munoz and his people for not trying to throw the city under the bus or pass the buck," Demetrio said. "He stood in front of the world and has stated that, 'We, United, take full responsibility.'"
Demetrio said it was "unheard of" for a company to admit responsibility so quickly and completely.
"I hope corporate America notices when you goof up, people respect you a heck of a lot more when you admit it, instead of making people go through three years of depositions, motions, court hearings."
He said Dao was also impressed that "United stepped up to the plate."
The incident arose from a common air travel issue — a fully booked flight. Wanting to seat four crew members, the airline offered passengers $400 and later $800 to voluntarily relinquish their seats. When no one did, United selected four passengers at random.
Three people got off the flight, but Dao refused, saying he needed to get home to treat patients the next day. The airline then summoned the officers, who forcibly removed Dao.
The incident was a major embarrassment for United. The company's response in the immediate aftermath was widely criticized. Munoz first defended the airline and described Dao as "belligerent" before publicly apologizing days later and vowing to do better.
The three airport police officers who dragged Dao from the plane were placed on leave from the Chicago Department of Aviation.
The agency released a report April 24 in which the officer who pulled Dao from his seat, James Long, gave his version of events. Long said Dao was verbally and physically abusive and was flailing his arms before he lost his balance and struck his mouth on an armrest.
The department's roughly 300 officers guard the city's two main airports but are not part of the regular Chicago police force. They receive less training and cannot carry guns inside the terminals.
Also Thursday, the airline released a report detailing mistakes that led to the incident. United said would raise to $10,000 the limit on the payments it offers to customers who give up seats on oversold flights and increase training for employees.
United has vowed to reduce, but not eliminate, overbooking.
The airline has not said whether ticket sales have dropped since Dao was removed from the jet.
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The settlement came less than three weeks after the episode, before Dao had even sued. The deal means United will not face a lawsuit that could have been costly, both in legal bills and in further public-relations damage.
Wonder how many million dollares of Peace?
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so the tard got his payday... that sets a great precedent. idiots.
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so the tard got his payday... that sets a great precedent. idiots.
x2. That guy doesn't deserve any significant amount of money. The airline should comp his tickets and throw in a couple thousand bucks. Nothing more.
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so the tard got his payday... that sets a great precedent. idiots.
You're going to see copycats in the future intentionally get into conflicts with airline staff in hopes they get their own viral video, along with the public on their side (regardless if the passenger was clearly in the wrong) and a juicy payday from the airline.
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Already did, look a the video with the mother crying crocodile tears because of the stroller , and the fat white knight that jumped off his seat once the situation was under control
You're going to see copycats in the future intentionally get into conflicts with airline staff in hopes they get their own viral video, along with the public on their side (regardless if the passenger was clearly in the wrong) and a juicy payday from the airline.
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x2. That guy doesn't deserve any significant amount of money. The airline should comp his tickets and throw in a couple thousand bucks. Nothing more.
Guessing he got a lot more than a couple thousand bucks!
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Update: United Airlines' April air traffic increases 7.4% and the stock is currently at $78.41/share or up 11.3% since the incident. Man, you guys really called the downfall of the company LOL!!!
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Update: United Airlines' April air traffic increases 7.4% and the stock is currently at $78.41/share or up 11.3% since the incident. Man, you guys really called the downfall of the company LOL!!!
How much cash did they fellow get though?
That's what everyone wants to know
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How much cash did they fellow get though?
That's what everyone wants to know
Who cares? Fuck that gook. That's peanuts in comparison. Just proving the arm-chair stock analyst in this thread dead wrong.
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x2. That guy doesn't deserve any significant amount of money. The airline should comp his tickets and throw in a couple thousand bucks. Nothing more.
The bad PR from a long drawn out court case would hurt them more than just settling with a couple million now. pretty sure these airlines have insurance policies for all sorts of lawsuits so it won't cost them a thing.
Plus how many million people fly united a week? All they need to do is raise ticket prices $1 across the board, no one would ever even notice and they recoup that money back in days.
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Update: United Airlines' April air traffic increases 7.4% and the stock is currently at $78.41/share or up 11.3% since the incident. Man, you guys really called the downfall of the company LOL!!!
They got a bad review by papa Ron, so they will be next on this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airline_bankruptcies_in_the_United_States#Chapter_7)
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They got a bad review by papa Ron, so they will be next on this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airline_bankruptcies_in_the_United_States#Chapter_7)
Doesn't matter, they'll just use a gimmick airline name to get around him.
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Who cares? Fuck that gook. That's peanuts in comparison. Just proving the arm-chair stock analyst in this thread dead wrong.
Since it sets a precedent, and many more will try doing it, its good to know how many millions you can get by doing it.
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Didn't "Be There" say that this guy wouldn't get a dime, no matter what ??? ??? ???
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Doesn't matter, they'll just use a gimmick airline name to get around him.
Well played :D