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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
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How heavy are you?
At a lighter bodyweight, around 180-190 pounds, I was good for 37 full chin-ups. That was a long time ago. Now that I've entered my 40s and my weight fluctuates around 230, I don't really do them because I feel like they put a lot of pressure on my shoulders. Injury avoidance is one of my main training goals, these days.
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I take it you mean chins and not pull ups. Chins really strain the biceps and shoulders for sure.
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I’m average on chin ups ,but used to do 120-140 push ups in one shot .Now even push ups would be like Walken’s count .
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I take it you mean chins and not pull ups. Chins really strain the biceps and shoulders for sure.
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Those are pull-ups. Chin-ups are with palms facing in and arms closer together. Always found them more comfortable than pull-ups, but rough on the shoulders sometimes. (And that bicep tendon that runs underneath the shoulder...)
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
I usually get 8 at the end of my back workout at 215lbs.
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yep, thats the goal.. impressive Ro
Just hope at 60 Im not to old.
Just looked up chins at 60 and 21 is elite level, maybe I overshot on expectations.. ;D
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I’m 43 and start my back workout with 18 pull ups (not sure if that’s the same, I overhand grip not under) and could maybe eke out more. I’m 235 pounds.
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
I thought you were going to post a Pic of some old, fat guy.
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
You're welcome
Have you ever tried bodyweight stuff?
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You're welcome
sorry I missed your post pal
I used to do chins back in my early 30s sets of 8-10 reps, just after my layoff and then back tarining just never got around to doing them again
Been watching a lot of gymnasts recently and the bodyweight thing appeals at the moment, I just cant be arsed with the sets and reps of a bodybuilding routine anymore
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sorry I missed your post pal
I used to do chins back in my early 30s sets of 8-10 reps, just after my layoff and then back tarining just never got around to doing them again
Been watching a lot of gymnasts recently and the bodyweight thing appeals at the moment, I just cant be arsed with the sets and reps of a bodybuilding routine anymore
Best part is you don't have to leave the house!
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Best part is you don't have to leave the house!
I have enogh stuff in my garage to train, my wifes clogged the place up with shit
I go to the gym for variety although it is annoying seeing the PTs just wasting people time and charging them money for it
I only talk to maybe 7 people at the gym, most of them women
At some point everyone I have ever met ends up getting on my fucking nerves, Im just not all that tolerant.
First thing I do when I meet someone new is look for something I dont like about them and really focus in on it, saves a lot of time later.
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I have enogh stuff in my garage to train, my wifes clogged the place up with shit
I go to the gym for variety although it is annoying seeing the PTs just wasting people time and charging them money for it
I only talk to maybe 7 people at the gym, most of them women
At some point everyone I have ever met ends up getting on my fucking nerves, Im just not all that tolerant.
First thing I do when I meet someone new is look for something I dont like about them and really focus in on it, saves a lot of time later.
That last sentence is great.
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For a minute there I thought somebody hacked josSwift account lol, Doesn’t sound like one of his typical thread I thought maybe Hanky took it over. I do 10 to 12 sometimes as a warm-up for my back workouts and maybe 10 at the back end of the workout I’m 56 180 pounds
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I’ve done 22/23 in early 30s at 250lbs and used to hang two 20kg plates off a dip belt for 5/6
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Thought this was a thread about Ron.
Don't set expectations too high. If you're talking about pull-ups (as seen in the animation), doing them properly with good form is hard. Most people don't realise they're doing them with shit form. Doing 10 is a realistic goal, and it's impressive when you see the average person doing it.
The key is to just keep doing them often. If you have one of those machines that allows you to kneel on it as it takes some of the weight off, they're awesome. Just start repping them out on that to build up strength and get the muscles accustomed to the stretch. When I'm home, I like to use it now for when I've done all the sets I can do unassisted, then I'll jump on that to push my forearms and grip a bit more.
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I have enogh stuff in my garage to train, my wifes clogged the place up with shit
I go to the gym for variety although it is annoying seeing the PTs just wasting people time and charging them money for it
I only talk to maybe 7 people at the gym, most of them women
At some point everyone I have ever met ends up getting on my fucking nerves, Im just not all that tolerant.
First thing I do when I meet someone new is look for something I dont like about them and really focus in on it, saves a lot of time later.
Good advice for a man enamored with a woman.
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I’ve done 22/23 in early 30s at 250lbs and used to hang two 20kg plates off a dip belt for 5/6
half reps of peace ;)
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What Phantom Spunker said, doing them in a way I think is proper is hard as shit (to me at least). I'm a fat fuck and can't do even one overhand pullup, feels like I'll tear something when I try. I feel it most in the bracialis and upper forearm (some think pullups/wide pulldowns has to do with the disappearing upper forearm in older lifters). I sometimes do pullups with a triangle close grip, feels less injurious, and am happy with about 5 full reps so it's something I do a few 'honest' reps with somewhere in the workout. I'm 47 but it's been like this for decades and I'm seen as relatively strong, pulling, rowing, other back moves, but I guess pullups never were my thing. It's impressive when you see someone do good pullups and some can even touch their lower chest to the bar. All the pros do half pullups, nothing wrong with that necessarily though, as long as the back gets worked.
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For a minute there I thought somebody hacked josSwift account lol, Doesn’t sound like one of his typical thread I thought maybe Hanky took it over. I do 10 to 12 sometimes as a warm-up for my back workouts and maybe 10 at the back end of the workout I’m 56 180 pounds
I think Joe's baiting him 😄
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Thought this was a thread about Ron.
Don't set expectations too high. If you're talking about pull-ups (as seen in the animation), doing them properly with good form is hard. Most people don't realise they're doing them with shit form. Doing 10 is a realistic goal, and it's impressive when you see the average person doing it.
The key is to just keep doing them often. If you have one of those machines that allows you to kneel on it as it takes some of the weight off, they're awesome. Just start repping them out on that to build up strength and get the muscles accustomed to the stretch. When I'm home, I like to use it now for when I've done all the sets I can do unassisted, then I'll jump on that to push my forearms and grip a bit more.
Exactly this...but if he's no machine he can do band assisted chins
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For a minute there I thought somebody hacked josSwift account lol, Doesn’t sound like one of his typical thread I thought maybe Hanky took it over. I do 10 to 12 sometimes as a warm-up for my back workouts and maybe 10 at the back end of the workout I’m 56 180 pounds
Still pretty good. Most men can barely do 1 at any age and over 50 very few can.
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I only talk to maybe 7 people at the gym
6 more then I talk to and the one I do talk to it's about golf not the gym.
I've never tried to do 20 in a row but 4 sets of 10. I have managed to do it a few times but take two weeks off from trying and it's like I have to start all over again.
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Sounds like a worthy goal, Swifty.
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Just been gym
Tried a chin and felt like my arms would rip off
Went o n the assisted chin machine, did
2x8 reps with 50k assist
3 x 8 with 30k assist
4 x 5 with 20k assist
then did 4 sets lat pulldowns noice and slow with 50kilos
Was going to leave it at that but fuck it, I went back to the chinning bar and managed 3 full reps arms full extended between pulls
think Im going to manage this...
Told one of the lads training what I was doing and he just jumped on the chinning bar and did a quick 20 reps, he weighs 100k but he is only 30, still really impressive.
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I have enogh stuff in my garage to train, my wifes clogged the place up with shit
I go to the gym for variety although it is annoying seeing the PTs just wasting people time and charging them money for it
I only talk to maybe 7 people at the gym, most of them women
At some point everyone I have ever met ends up getting on my fucking nerves, Im just not all that tolerant.
First thing I do when I meet someone new is look for something I dont like about them and really focus in on it, saves a lot of time later.
I understand the approach, but nobody is perfect. We are always going to disagree in something, it doesn't mean one cannot build a great friendship/relationship.
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I was trying to build up my Pull-Ups so I was doing Negative only reps as it was tough doing a decent set at first.
I stood on a small platform,got my hand spacing correct,jumped up to the bar,held myself at the top while squeezing my upper back muscles for a couple of seconds,then I slowly lowered myself as slow as I could into a full stretch......rinse,wash,repeat.
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I understand the approach, but nobody is perfect. We are always going to disagree in something, it doesn't mean one cannot build a great friendship/relationship.
Its not the agree or disagree that bothers me, old saying. "you never learn anything from people who always agree with you"
Its habits and behaviours people have
I was on holiday with my wife a few years ago and we met a couple from Manchester , she was great but her husband was recovering from a work accident with a grinder, it bounced up and spilt his face open near his mouth.
When I was talking to the guy he kept sticking his tongue out and licking his chin
Later my wife said "shall we ask them if they want to eat with us later?" I just said "Nah fuck that he keeps licking his fucking chin"
My wife said "hes had an accident and his chins numb, he cant feel it"
Still , fuck it, we didnt eat with them
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Its not the agree or disagree that bothers me, old saying. "you never learn anything from people who always agree with you"
Its habits and behaviours people have
I was on holiday with my wife a few years ago and we met a couple from Manchester , she was great but her husband was recovering from a work accident with a grinder, it bounced up and spilt his face open near his mouth.
When I was talking to the guy he kept sticking his tongue out and licking his chin
Later my wife said "shall we ask them if they want to eat with us later?" I just said "Nah fuck that he keeps licking his fucking chin"
My wife said "hes had an accident and his chins numb, he cant feel it"
Still , fuck it, we didnt eat with them
being honest here mate. i think it´s you who has a problem with people.
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being honest here mate. i think it´s you who has a problem with people.
Im aware of that.......... ;D
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Im aware of that.......... ;D
I am honestly not trying to take the piss but you´re not a team player are you.
you are exactly like a guy i worked with & he blamed everyone for his short comings in life. I am not saying you are a bad bloke but reading your comments it´s very negative towards everyone.
I would not for example think about a handicapped person (or injured) like you as i met a few when i was active as a trainer.
maybe you need professionel help & again i am not taking the piss here.
I myself am a very private person these days but i still try to accept others in a humain manner.
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I am honestly not trying to take the piss but you´re not a team player are you.
you are exactly like a guy i worked with & he blamed everyone for his short comings in life. I am not saying you are a bad bloke but reading your comments it´s very negative towards everyone.
I would not for example think about a handicapped person (or injured) like you as i met a few when i was active as a trainer.
maybe you need professionel help & again i am not taking the piss here.
I myself am a very private person these days but i still try to accept others in a humain manner.
I dont blame anyone for my shortcomings, when have I ever shown any resentment for anyone on here?
Im not a jealous person which is the first manifestation of resentment.
Apart from Brian who else have I been negative towards on here?
I just keep myself to myself in public, I will chat to people if I have something in common with them.
To be honest I can be perfectly charming and convince anyone I like them if I wanted to, I spent years in customer service jobs pretending.
My time is my time, my job is talking to people all day and maintaining a pleasent atmosphere and making some really boring shit seem interesting , when I come home I want to switch off from all that.
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I dont blame anyone for my shortcomings, when have I ever shown any resentment for anyone on here?
Im not a jealous person which is the first manifestation of resentment.
Apart from Brian who else have I been negative towards on here?
I just keep myself to myself in public, I will chat to people if I have something in common with them.
To be honest I can be perfectly charming and convince anyone I like them if I wanted to, I spent years in customer service jobs pretending.
My time is my time, my job is talking to people all day and maintaining a pleasent atmosphere and making some really boring shit seem interesting , when I come home I want to switch off from all that.
well no need to dwell on the subject but i would like to know if you´ve ever participated in a team sport as an adult?
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Its not the agree or disagree that bothers me, old saying. "you never learn anything from people who always agree with you"
Its habits and behaviours people have
I was on holiday with my wife a few years ago and we met a couple from Manchester , she was great but her husband was recovering from a work accident with a grinder, it bounced up and spilt his face open near his mouth.
When I was talking to the guy he kept sticking his tongue out and licking his chin
Later my wife said "shall we ask them if they want to eat with us later?" I just said "Nah fuck that he keeps licking his fucking chin"
My wife said "hes had an accident and his chins numb, he cant feel it"
Still , fuck it, we didnt eat with them
That's gross.
I wouldn't want to eat with him.
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well no need to dwell on the subject but i would like to know if you´ve ever participated in a team sport as an adult?
played rugby from 20-23, played at school as well
Really enjoyed rugby, I stopped because your acheivements were based on a team effort, the result wasnt fully in your control, with bodybuiling it was just me.
You could play your socks off at rugby and still lose, you could also have a shit game and do fuck all and still win.
Last game I played I went to a new much better club, I trained with the juniors because I couldnt train with the senior team because I worked their training nights
I turned up at the club house for the game Saturday and the coach said to me "you are playing today"
Half an hour later he came back over and said, " X has turned up so you wont get a game now"
That was me done, I never played another competitive game of rugby, I threw myself into bodybuilding
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That's gross.
I wouldn't want to eat with him.
you know i remember i trained a woman who was if i remember correctly 32 & was badly scarred because of burns on both arms & covered her arms because of assholes like you in the Gym.
I said to her show your arms let them stare & then it´s no problem anymore..she did then show her arms & was accepted.
If anyone would say anything they would be kicked out. I hate assholes who bully people or are simply ignorant.
most of these types are weaklings mentally
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you know i remember i trained a woman who was if i remember correctly 32 & was badly scarred because of burns on both arms & covered her arms because of assholes like you in the Gym.
I said to her show your arms let them stare & then it´s no problem anymore..she did then show her arms & was accepted.
If anyone would say anything they would be kicked out. I hate assholes who bully people or are simply ignorant.
most of these types are weaklings mentally
No ones bullying anyone, he wasnt aware he was putting me off drooling, I spoke to the guy most days during the holiday, I spent a lot more time with his wife though.
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67 years old --5 ft 8-- 185 lbs. start 12 sets of bodymasters lat pulldowns 100-160 lbs 10-20 reps various grips. 5 sets of hammer strength seated rows 90-220 lbs 8-20 reps. 6 sets of 10reps one arm rows 70 lb dbs . 100 total reps of chinups took 7 sets to get them. end of back. next 6 sets of seated bench press on machine 100-220 lbs 20-6 reps. 1 set of 8 negatives with 270 lbs. 6 sets of hammer strength seated presses 90-220 lbs 20-6 reps. 12 sets of 30 reps of floor dips on parallel bars [pushups]. end of chest. 12 sets of biceps 12 sets of triceps various curls extensions and pressdowns end of arms. 300 crunches. 5 sets of 120 lbs on laying hack squat. 1 mile on the treadmill, 20 minutes on the exercise bike. would swim a mile at night. did this every friday for over a year. other two training days were a combination of this workout split in two. now my training is minimal. now 73 and don't chin at all. :'( :'( :'( :'(
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67 years old --5 ft 8-- 185 lbs. start 12 sets of bodymasters lat pulldowns 100-160 lbs 10-20 reps various grips. 5 sets of hammer strength seated rows 90-220 lbs 8-20 reps. 6 sets of 10reps one arm rows 70 lb dbs . 100 total reps of chinups took 7 sets to get them. end of back. next 6 sets of seated bench press on machine 100-220 lbs 20-6 reps. 1 set of 8 negatives with 270 lbs. 6 sets of hammer strength seated presses 90-220 lbs 20-6 reps. 12 sets of 30 reps of floor dips on parallel bars [pushups]. end of chest. 12 sets of biceps 12 sets of triceps various curls extensions and pressdowns end of arms. 300 crunches. 5 sets of 120 lbs on laying hack squat. 1 mile on the treadmill, 20 minutes on the exercise bike. would swim a mile at night. did this every friday for over a year. other two training days were a combination of this workout split in two. now my training is minimal. now 73 and don't chin at all. :'( :'( :'( :'(
why did you stop?
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played rugby from 20-23, played at school as well
Really enjoyed rugby, I stopped because your acheivements were based on a team effort, the result wasnt fully in your control, with bodybuiling it was just me.
You could play your socks off at rugby and still lose, you could also have a shit game and do fuck all and still win.
Last game I played I went to a new much better club, I trained with the juniors because I couldnt train with the senior team because I worked their training nights
I turned up at the club house for the game Saturday and the coach said to me "you are playing today"
Half an hour later he came back over and said, " X has turned up so you wont get a game now"
That was me done, I never played another competitive game of rugby, I threw myself into bodybuilding
you weren´t first choice so i understand the ego thing but instead of trying to be better you took the easy way out.
In a team no one wants to be the weak link in the chain.
In every team sport there is egos ..leaders & sheep.
I liked Judo because you were in competition as a team but also fought as an individuel maybe you should have tried this.
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you weren´t first choice so i understand the ego thing but instead of trying to be better you took the easy way out.
In a team no one wants to be the weak link in the chain.
In every team sport there is egos ..leaders & sheep.
I liked Judo because you were in competition as a team but also fought as an individuel maybe you should have tried this.
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well the best advice is on getbig :D
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No ones bullying anyone, he wasnt aware he was putting me off drooling, I spoke to the guy most days during the holiday, I spent a lot more time with his wife though.
sure you did stud
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sure you did stud
I prefer talking to women, you dont get the testosterone fuelled oneupmanship that you get with men
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you know i remember i trained a woman who was if i remember correctly 32 & was badly scarred because of burns on both arms & covered her arms because of assholes like you in the Gym.
I said to her show your arms let them stare & then it´s no problem anymore..she did then show her arms & was accepted.
If anyone would say anything they would be kicked out. I hate assholes who bully people or are simply ignorant.
most of these types are weaklings mentally
F*ck off, Donny.
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F*ck off, Donny.
;D
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Asks how many chins can be done.
It's explained that those are pullups, not chins.
Goes right back to calling them chins.
Or am I the one confused?
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Asks how many chins can be done.
It's explained that those are pullups, not chins.
Goes right back to calling them chins.
Or am I the one confused?
I have always called them chins, everyone I know calls them chins, no one ever says pull-ups
To me a pull up is when you do them like a curl grip, you "pull up" with your biceps
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I have always called them chins, everyone I know calls them chins, no one ever says pull-ups
To me a pull up is when you do them like a curl grip, you "pull up" with your biceps
Nope, you got it backwards.
Ask Bhanky if you doubt us.
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played rugby from 20-23, played at school as well
Really enjoyed rugby, I stopped because your acheivements were based on a team effort, the result wasnt fully in your control, with bodybuiling it was just me.
You could play your socks off at rugby and still lose, you could also have a shit game and do fuck all and still win.
Last game I played I went to a new much better club, I trained with the juniors because I couldnt train with the senior team because I worked their training nights
I turned up at the club house for the game Saturday and the coach said to me "you are playing today"
Half an hour later he came back over and said, " X has turned up so you wont get a game now"
That was me done, I never played another competitive game of rugby, I threw myself into bodybuilding
Having to work yourself into the team is actually one of the best character building parts of team sports for kids. They learn to accept that the world doesn't revolve around them and that they have to work hard to become part of the team.
You would have been better suited to martial arts than bodybuilding. Your hate for people would work like steroids do in bodybuilding. Just have to imagine the prick in front of you asked you to take off your shoes
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Nope, you got it backwards.
Ask Bhanky if you doubt us.
I know that now... if Im wrong then Brian must be on my side.
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I know that now... if Im wrong then Brian must be on my side.
You and him have much in common.
Just kidding.
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You and him have much in common.
Just kidding.
aaaanywayyyy...I did three good reps after I finished training
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You and me have much in common.
not kidding.
Fixed !
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Fixed !
Donny!!!!
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I have always called them chins, everyone I know calls them chins, no one ever says pull-ups
To me a pull up is when you do them like a curl grip, you "pull up" with your biceps
yep they be chins here in UK maybe it's the Americanization difference.
Like you I'm picky about who I talk to - can't stand loud mouths or
Idiots.
I live alone, train alone & most of the Time work alone, suits me fine.
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Asks how many chins can be done.
It's explained that those are pullups, not chins.
Goes right back to calling them chins.
Or am I the one confused?
G.A,
I believe this may be the case of an old world/new world nomenclature misunderstanding.
If you think that’s bad, hear this; the last time I was ‘cross the pond and in need of goods and services, I went to the currency exchange and handed them hard-earned American greenbacks. Lo and behold some old hag speaking with a gibberish accent handed me some funny money monopoly bullshit with someone’s grandmother on it. Unbelievable. Hardly a fair trade but the locals accepted it as a bartering icon. I believe their dentists only accept rocking horse manure as payment though. Not certain they get a lot of work.
Anywho, I start every back day with a 12/10/8 set of pull ups. I also incorporate the same into my chest day, between doing flat work and incline work.
I could probably rip out 25 or so. Maybe 30. I’m also 20+ years younger than the bulk of you guys.
Happy thanksgiving to the bros.
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Nothing wrong with being introvert.
Only reason why I’ve purchased head phones for the gym were annoying gym goers and fags that are there for chit chat.
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Nothing wrong with being introvert.
Only reason why I’ve purchased head phones for the gym were annoying gym goers and fags that are there for chit chat.
Do you have a big fag problem in your area?
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Do you have a big fag problem in your area?
FAG = Fucking Annoying Gymgoers
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why did you stop?
artificial hip infection-open heart surgery-torn rotator cuff- burst appendix. I had to tone it down after that.
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Do you have a big fag problem in your area?
Not anymore /since you moved out/.
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Am up to 7 reps now
I do them at the end of my upper body workout
Assisted pull ups and dips, lateral raises, then biceps and triceps
I wait around 5 mins to let the pump ease off a bit then go for my set
I managed 7, then 4, then 3
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Am up to 7 reps now
I do them at the end of my upper body workout
Assisted pull ups and dips, lateral raises, then biceps and triceps
I wait around 5 mins to let the pump ease off a bit then go for my set
I managed 7, then 4, then 3
Excellent, you're doing well - 👊🏻👍🏻
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Excellent, you're doing well - 👊🏻👍🏻
If i can add one extra rep a week I will be OK
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If i can add one extra rep a week I will be OK
Your upto 7 & thats at the back end of your workout
So your doing well already.
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
If your body is giving you signs of danger, you should listen to it. We are not 20yo anymore, and recovering fully from a tear at your age is nearly impossible. And for what?
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If your body is giving you signs of danger, you should listen to it. We are not 20yo anymore, and recovering fully from a tear at your age is nearly impossible. And for what?
Im working through it and strengthening the areas with assisted movements
Its not like Im trying to lift 600lbs in a deadlift, its doing a pull up.
Answer me this, how many people do you know who have torn a muscle doing bodyweight excercises?
In just a couple of weeks I feel much more comfortable doing the movement
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Am up to 7 reps now
I do them at the end of my upper body workout
Assisted pull ups and dips, lateral raises, then biceps and triceps
I wait around 5 mins to let the pump ease off a bit then go for my set
I managed 7, then 4, then 3
Damn good progress....props!!
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Im working through it and strengthening the areas with assisted movements
Its not like Im trying to lift 600lbs in a deadlift, its doing a pull up.
Answer me this, how many people do you know who have torn a muscle doing bodyweight excercises?
In just a couple of weeks I feel much more comfortable doing the movement
any exercise can cause an injury not just weight training. A tennis player can pull a muscle .. a runner can pull a muscle...
OK not like tearing a pec off like in a Bench press but anything can happen.
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Just take your time and allow the connective tissues to toughen up.
This takes a bit.
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any exercise can cause an injury not just weight training. A tennis player can pull a muscle .. a runner can pull a muscle...
OK not like tearing a pec off like in a Bench press but anything can happen.
I know, but thats not the question I asked
"How many people do you know who have torn muscles doing bodyweight excercises?"
I have hurt my back putting a tin of soup in a shopping trolley, a back spasm.
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I know, but thats not the question I asked
"How many people do you know who have torn muscles doing bodyweight excercises?"
I have hurt my back putting a tin of soup in a shopping trolley, a back spasm.
I saw a guy who i worked with in a Gym ( he was a prick ) show off doing one hand chins.
If i remember correctly it was a chin up & supinated, think he used a strap too on the bar. I watched him tear a bicep as i was on a crosstrainer doing cardio.
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I saw a guy who i worked with in a Gym ( he was a prick ) show off doing one hand chins.
If i remember correctly it was a chin up & supinated, think he used a strap too on the bar. I watched him tear a bicep as i was on a crosstrainer doing cardio.
so he actually overloaded the bicep by using a strap, he also put his bicep in the weakest position possible.
Without the strap chances are he would have failed the lift before the bicep gave out
the crosstariner bit needs a "no homo" ;D
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so he actually overloaded the bicep by using a strap, he also put his bicep in the weakest position possible.
Without the strap chances are he would have failed the lift before the bicep gave out
the crosstariner bit needs a "no homo" ;D
;D i loved the Crosser, interval programme . sometimes i did 15 mins crosser, 15 mins bike, 15 mins rowing machine.
Like i wrote the guy was a prick, infact i nearly had a fight with him in the Gym.
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
Good question and fun personal fact
I started doing pullups on each workout from age 15 to age 30
on back days I would start with a 25 lb. plate on hanging on my waist and at my best I would finish with a 120 dumbbell for 15 reps ...... I stopped doing pull ups altogether at around age 35 ...
At age 45, I tried to do 10 miserable reps and my joints weren't too happy about it.
As I turned 52 this weekend (I'm still in decent shape) I might try to do at least 5 reps and see if I don't break in half lol
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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;D i loved the Crosser, interval programme . sometimes i did 15 mins crosser, 15 mins bike, 15 mins rowing machine.
Like i wrote the guy was a prick, infact i nearly had a fight with him in the Gym.
straight after he tore his bicep? ;D
story about my uncle
He was in a pub playing dominoes with a group of guys, one guy was huge bull of a bloke, someone played a wrong domino and no one noticed until near the end of the game, the big guy accused my uncle and threatened him.
My uncle backed down because of the size of the guy, a bit later the big guy got up to go to the bar and he was limping as he had a skinny little leg..
My uncle just shouted, "hey you, about this fucking domino"
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Brian Shaw can't do that many :) @7:36
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Brian Shaw can't do that many :) @7:36
the other guy did 3/4 reps, Brian went full hang, thats what Im doing.
The guy also used momentum like a cross fitter , he wouldnt have got 20 if he went full arm extension on the negative
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straight after he tore his bicep? ;D
story about my uncle
He was in a pub playing dominoes with a group of guys, one guy was huge bull of a bloke, someone played a wrong domino and no one noticed until near the end of the game, the big guy accused my uncle and threatened him.
My uncle backed down because of the size of the guy, a bit later the big guy got up to go to the bar and he was limping as he had a skinny little leg..
My uncle just shouted, "hey you, about this fucking domino"
;D
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Good question and fun personal fact
I started doing pullups on each workout from age 15 to age 30
on back days I would start with a 25 lb. plate on hanging on my waist and at my best I would finish with a 120 dumbbell for 15 reps ...... I stopped doing pull ups altogether at around age 35 ...
At age 45, I tried to do 10 miserable reps and my joints weren't too happy about it.
As I turned 52 this weekend (I'm still in decent shape) I might try to do at least 5 reps and see if I don't break in half lol
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Wait what, 15 pull ups with 125lbs???
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Wait what, 15 pull ups with 125lbs???
Of course. Getbiggers are a different breed.
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Swifty,
Do you have camo or soldier pants to wear while doing pullups?
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Swifty,
Do you have camo pants to wear while doing pullups?
not without a belt, dont want to end up dick rooting the gym
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Who names their kid Curd. ??? ??? ??? ???
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Show me anyone doing 15 pull ups with that much weight.
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Who names their kid Curd. ??? ??? ??? ???
it might be a typo
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straight after he tore his bicep? ;D
story about my uncle
He was in a pub playing dominoes with a group of guys, one guy was huge bull of a bloke, someone played a wrong domino and no one noticed until near the end of the game, the big guy accused my uncle and threatened him.
My uncle backed down because of the size of the guy, a bit later the big guy got up to go to the bar and he was limping as he had a skinny little leg..
My uncle just shouted, "hey you, about this fucking domino"
;D
Serious game for these old boys :D
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Good question and fun personal fact
I started doing pullups on each workout from age 15 to age 30
on back days I would start with a 25 lb. plate on hanging on my waist and at my best I would finish with a 120 dumbbell for 15 reps ...... I stopped doing pull ups altogether at around age 35 ...
At age 45, I tried to do 10 miserable reps and my joints weren't too happy about it.
As I turned 52 this weekend (I'm still in decent shape) I might try to do at least 5 reps and see if I don't break in half lol
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pull ups with a 120 for 15 resp that’s crazy.
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Pull ups with a 120 for 15 resp that’s crazy.
esp if you weight 200 lbs or more. the pic below was supposed to be a world record, I forget what the total weight was.
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esp if you weight 200 lbs or more. the pic below was supposed to be a world record, I forget what the total weight was.
Yeah adding weight is insane. I remember at my strongest weighing around 285-290 I did 15-20 pull ups. But adding weight onto my weight and I’m not that good at pull ups. I’m good for 10-15 now at 270.chin ups around 10 at the moment.
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Pull ups with a 120 for 15 resp that’s crazy.
Previous world record for pull-ups with a 100-lb pack was 14 up until 2023 when some Chinese fucker did 25. He also holds the world record for heaviest single pull up.
PSB's feat of strength is up there with the Scott's squat of 515 for 20, 535 for 20, 585 for 5 and then back down to 515 for 20 in terms of sheer magnificence. Some super-strong athletes on this board.
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Good question and fun personal fact
I started doing pullups on each workout from age 15 to age 30
on back days I would start with a 25 lb. plate on hanging on my waist and at my best I would finish with a 120 dumbbell for 15 reps ...... I stopped doing pull ups altogether at around age 35 ...
At age 45, I tried to do 10 miserable reps and my joints weren't too happy about it.
As I turned 52 this weekend (I'm still in decent shape) I might try to do at least 5 reps and see if I don't break in half lol
WooooSSHHHHHHHHHHHHH LE VRO NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Wow! That is fantastic! The most I ever managed was 20 to 24 (memory sucks, LOL!). I weighed over 200lbs but I couldn't do pull-ups at all. Now I can not do a single one, nor a pushup. ;D I am pathetic, I know! ;D
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Previous world record for pull-ups with a 100-lb pack was 14 up until 2023 when some Chinese fucker did 25. He also holds the world record for heaviest single pull up.
PSB's feat of strength is up there with the Scott's squat of 515 for 20, 535 for 20, 585 for 5 and then back down to 515 for 20 in terms of sheer magnificence. Some super-strong athletes on this board.
Yes the scotts squats are legendary.
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Wow! That is fantastic! The most I ever managed was 20 to 24 (memory sucks, LOL!). I weighed over 200lbs but I couldn't do pull-ups at all. Now I can not do a single one, nor a pushup. ;D I am pathetic, I know! ;D
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;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Wait what, 15 pull ups with 125lbs???
Yes .
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Show me anyone doing 15 pull ups with that much weight.
Do Muscle Ups count?
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Yes .
Must be a world record then, congrats.
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trained shoulders , did some lat puldowns and staright arm pulldowns warm up
Managed 8 reps pull ups
trained chest and arms then had another go at the pull ups and did 5
So up to 8 reps now
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Pull ups with a 120 for 15 resp that’s crazy.
I did Pull ups first thing every workout (4 sets) from age 15 in every single workout (including leg day)
so it took me like 10 years to get that dumbbell on my waist ....
I only got huge forearms out it lol
I think that's even more crazy
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BEYE KE
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I did Pull ups first thing every workout (4 sets) from age 15 in every single workout (including leg day)
so it took me like 10 years to get that dumbbell on my waist ....
I only got huge forearms out it lol
I think that's even more crazy
WooooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BEYE KE
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Up to 8 now
just did a few warm ups then went for a set, managed 8
Did the rest of my workout, full upper body session including failure sets biceps and tris
Had another go at pullups and did a set of 5 and a set of 3
Doing all my workout doesnt seem to imapct that much on the chin attempts they way it should...
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great thread this in fairness jeff! no doubt you wil achieve your goal mate
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great thread this in fairness jeff! no doubt you wil achieve your goal mate
If I can get one extra rep a week I will piss it, I suspect its going to get a lot harder though
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Chins are a bit like squats, the numbers also depend on the range of motion. In squats, a difference of 1 inch in depth could mean a weight adjustment of 100lbs. Like with chins, can you extend your neck like crazy to almost get the chin over the bar? :D
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Chins are a bit like squats, the numbers also depend on the range of motion. In squats, a difference of 1 inch in depth could mean a weight adjustment of 100lbs. Like with chins, can you extend your neck like crazy to almost get the chin over the bar? :D
I do mine exactly like these
no chin movement, no neck stretching, no muscle up style leg flicks and jerks
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Swifty,
Take your time and don't rush it.
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Swifty,
Take your time and don't rush it.
spoke to physio guy today he advised doing weighted chins to help with strength.
Im carrying 10k over my ideal weight now so repping at my current weight is like added weight
If I could do 15 reps then I may have added weight but Im only just getting 8.
He mentionecd some broscience about activating the explosive mitocondria or something like that, I zoned out a bit
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spoke to physio guy today he advised doing weighted chins to help with strength.
Im carrying 10k over my ideal weight now so repping at my current weight is like added weight
If I could do 15 reps then I may have added weight but Im only just getting 8.
He mentionecd some broscience about activating the explosive mitocondria or something like that, I zoned out a bit
I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time. You have plenty of time.
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I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time. You have plenty of time.
Yes, extra weight is dumb, at least with my own bodyweight Im likely to fail the rep rather than tear something, with extra weight thats something extra pulling me.
I have gone from barely a rep to 8 in less than a month
If I can manage one rep extra a week then I will be at 20 for March
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managed 9 good reps today followed by a set of 6
Did my upper body workout first but saved arms until after the pull-ups
The 9 felt pretty good , I may have got a 3/4 rep if I had gone for another but Im happy with 9
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I advise against added weight for now.
It takes awhile for your connective tissues to catch up to your muscular strength.
You want to avoid an injury.
Take your time. You have plenty of time.
I agree if he was knocking out 20 reps or more,adding weight would be a good idea,but not yet......that physio probably can`t do any chins.
Shitty Advice Of Peace
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managed 9 good reps today followed by a set of 6
Did my upper body workout first but saved arms until after the pull-ups
The 9 felt pretty good , I may have got a 3/4 rep if I had gone for another but Im happy with 9
Nice progress my friend!! ;)
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Ive found that about 3 or so sets into chest, my pull-ups are at their best.
Don’t know why. Crush a 5x5 on the bench, then hit the bar and I feel like I weigh nothing. I’m sure it has something to do with the right amount of lat activation during bench to really warm them up w out fatiguing them.
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About a month ago I started doing just dips and chins for my upper body workout due to a nagging shoulder injury. They are hard! I am up to 15 reps on the dips but only 6 on neutral grip chins. I weigh 205.
I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.
BTW, I went to neutral grip chins because the palms facing or forward grips aggravated my shoulder. I bought these from Amazon to put over my chinning bar and they feel great:
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About a month ago I started doing just dips and chins for my upper body workout due to a nagging shoulder injury. They are hard! I am up to 15 reps on the dips but only 6 on neutral grip chins. I weigh 205.
I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.
BTW, I went to neutral grip chins because the palms facing or forward grips aggravated my shoulder. I bought these from Amazon to put over my chinning bar and they feel great:
A neutral grip I find generally more elbow friendly too.
Even say overhead french presses I prefer a tricep bar with a neutral grip.
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I read an interesting article about the eccentric part of the chinning movement- you can get just as much hypertrophy as the concentric part. So a few days ago I did a slow lowering after my final concentric chin. I'm still feeling it in my lower lats days later.
Even doing jusr the bottom half, close to the full stretch, is thought to be the most effective part for hypertrophy. For example, subjects did only the bottom part of a calf raise vs only the the top part, hypertrophy was way greater doing the bottom part. I think they did one calf one way and the other the opposite. Doing just the bottom part with chins doesn't feel 'feel' right and feel even injurious especially if you add load. But maybe extending the full range sets for a couple-three partial range might theoretically add more stinulus. If full range means actually touching you chest to the bar, like one poster above said he does, almost no one can do those at all even if they chin regularly.
I think doing a slower negative on the last rep is probably a very good idea.
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Even doing jusr the bottom half, close to the full stretch, is thought to be the most effective part for hypertrophy. For example, subjects did only the bottom part of a calf raise vs only the the top part, hypertrophy was way greater doing the bottom part. Doing just the bottom part with chins does 'feel' right and feel even injurious especially if you add load. But maybe extending the full range sets for a couple-three partial range might theoretically add more stinulus. If full range means actually touching you chest to the bar, like one poster above said he does, almost no one can do those at all even if they chin regularly.
he said he fels chins are easier after training chest, I dont think anyone suggestting touching the bar with your chest.
the bit about bottom range of calves compared to top being more productive shows that stretching the muscle adds to growth, in fact its all that growth actually is
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he said he fels chins are easier after training chest, I dont think anyone suggestting touching the bar with your chest.
But there are a few who aren't impressed by chins that can't be touched to the chest, of course it's always the ones who can do it who feel this way lol, some think you should be able to touch your lower chest to the bar, even harder, others think you should be able to get you chin over the bar, even if extending the neck extremely to get the very top of the chin over even if the rest of the chin uses kipping like in crossfit. I bet most purists feel those are not actual chins. I don't know how this particular individual feels about what is a proper chin up.
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But there are a few who aren't impressed by chins that can't be touched to the chest, of course it's always the ones who can do it who feel this way lol, some think you should be able to touch your lower chest to the bar, even harder, others think you should be able to get you chin over the bar, even if extending the neck extremely to get the very top of the chin over even if the rest of the chin uses kipping like in crossfit. I bet most purists feel those are not actual chins. I don't know how this particular individual feels about what is a proper chin up.
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managed 9 good reps today followed by a set of 6
Did my upper body workout first but saved arms until after the pull-ups
The 9 felt pretty good , I may have got a 3/4 rep if I had gone for another but Im happy with 9
Slow and steady improvements!
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trained yesterday , didnt do any full pull ups, felt sore, arms especially
Ease off a bit with the max efforts and give my body time to adjust to the load
Still, up to 9 in around 4 weeks is on target as long as Im careful
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did a set of 10 and a set of 7
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did a set of 10 and a set of 7
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a bit smaller than those but the sweats pretty accurate.
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a bit smaller than those but the sweats pretty accurate.
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did a set of 10 and a set of 7
That's good progress.
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Struggling with chins at the moment, feel like Im going to rip my biceps and shoulders.
Havent done them for a while
Settting myself a goal of 20 chins by the time I turn 60 next July
How many consecutive chins can you guys do and how old?
First thing is lose some fucking weight ;D
Brian, fuck off its not for you...
Back in August I was able to do 4 sets of 10 but I haven't tried lately.
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Back in August I was able to do 4 sets of 10 but I haven't tried lately.
That great bud,before I got sidelined I was doing Negative only chins which were working very well for me as I tried to build up in reps...............chinn ing had become a bitch for me, especially since years ago I could do at least 20 anytime on a whim,of course I wasn`t a big heavy dude but they were very humbling recently.
I`m like Jeff and Illumunati....palms facing away with a wide grip were always called chins in all the old magazines so that`s what I still call them today and I FUCKING always will....Iron Nat and Grape Ape be damned! LOL ;D
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That great bud,before I got sidelined I was doing Negative only chins which were working very well for me as I tried to build up in reps...............chinn ing had become a bitch for me, especially since years ago I could do at least 20 anytime on a whim,of course I wasn`t a big heavy dude but they were very humbling recently.
I`m like Jeff and Illumunati....palms facing away with a wide grip were always called chins in all the old magazines so that`s what I still call them today and I FUCKING always will....Iron Nat and Grape Ape be damned! LOL ;D
Agreed. Chins used to be palms away and pullups were palms in. I don't know when they switched.
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Agreed. Chins used to be palms away and pullups were palms in. I don't know when they switched.
I never switched bro........it`s just ingrained in me after all the these years to still call them Chins.
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This is more fun.. ;D
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Agreed. Chins used to be palms away and pullups were palms in. I don't know when they switched.
fucking Americans
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This is more fun.. ;D
that would probably hurt the back of my knees and under arms...
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that would probably hurt the back of my knees and under arms...
better use for a chin up bar :D
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That great bud,before I got sidelined I was doing Negative only chins which were working very well for me as I tried to build up in reps...............chinn ing had become a bitch for me, especially since years ago I could do at least 20 anytime on a whim,of course I wasn`t a big heavy dude but they were very humbling recently.
I`m like Jeff and Illumunati....palms facing away with a wide grip were always called chins in all the old magazines so that`s what I still call them today and I FUCKING always will....Iron Nat and Grape Ape be damned! LOL ;D
I just call them pullups whichever way your hands are facing ;D
I can do more with hands facing me.
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fucking Americans
We're taking over Canada and Greenland and the Panama Canal.
Who knows...maybe Gaul and Britannia next.
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We're taking over Canada and Greenland and the Panama Canal.
Who knows...maybe Gaul and Britannia next.
:D
they can take out country but they will never master our language...
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they can take out country but they will never master our language...
we didn´t call Americans Spams for no reason ;D
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I just call them pullups whichever way your hands are facing ;D
I can do more with hands facing me.
YOU`RE WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111 :D
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We're taking over Canada and Greenland and the Panama Canal.
Who knows...maybe Gaul and Britannia next.
:D
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14 today
slow steady progress
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14 today
slow steady progress
good going, get a video up.
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good going, get a video up.
i dont own a Smart phone
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14 today
slow steady progress
good work mate!
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14 today
slow steady progress
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14 today
slow steady progress
Awesome progress Jeff.....props buddy! ;)
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i dont own a Smart phone
I only got one 2 years ago as a birthday present from my girlfriend.
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I only got one 2 years ago as a birthday present homing device/tracker from my girlfriend.
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;D
You're paranoid :D
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;D
Something like that.
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Trained today
Only managed a max of 10, still sore from Friday
Did some partial muscle ups instead using leg momentum getting my upper abs to the bar
Did 6 or so sets of dips then managed another strict set of 8 pull ups when I had finished my session.
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14 today
slow steady progress
Nice! Getting closer.
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Nice! Getting closer.
20 seems a lot further away after doing 14, I almost had a fucking heart attack ;D
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20 seems a lot further away after doing 14, I almost had a fucking heart attack ;D
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Slow and steady wins the race! ;)
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yep, thats the goal.. impressive Ro
Just hope at 60 Im not to old.
Just looked up chins at 60 and 21 is elite level, maybe I overshot on expectations.. ;D
Exceed your goals Jeff,don`t falter.....the limiting factor is your mind ....up to a point of course.
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Exceed your goals Jeff,don`t falter.....the limiting factor is your mind ....up to a point of course.
Going to start adding weight this week 10k plate, apparently its the best way to boost overall totals rather than just trying to add reps
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Patience Yago, patience.
It will take you awhile, perhaps years.
If you increase 1 pullup every 2-4 weeks you'll still get there if you just keep plodding.
In the meantime you will build a helluva back.
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Going to start adding weight this week 10k plate, apparently its the best way to boost overall totals rather than just trying to add reps
Good idea my friend. ;)
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Patience Yago, patience.
It will take you awhile, perhaps years.
If you increase 1 pullup every 2-4 weeks you'll still get there if you just keep plodding.
In the meantime you will build a helluva back.
I have gone from 3 to 14 in less than 3 months, I also hurt my front delt a bit a couple weeks ago, still not 100%, not sure if it was the assisted pull up machine or dips
I can rattle out about 20 dips but Im not comfortable adding weight just yet
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I have gone from 3 to 14 in less than 3 months, I also hurt my front delt a bit a couple weeks ago, still not 100%, not sure if it was the assisted pull up machine or dips
I can rattle out about 20 dips but Im not comfortable adding weight just yet
It takes time for the connective tissues to toughen.
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Patience Yago, patience.
It will take you awhile, perhaps years.
It takes time for the connective tissues to toughen.
this cannot b overstated.. and is perhaps the single most important element of long term functionality.
pain is good, but u gotta have the intelligence to know when its time to take your foot off the gas
the body can b conditioned to incredible levels.. even at an advanced age - if done smartly - slow and sure.
again, think years
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I have gone from 3 to 14 in less than 3 months, I also hurt my front delt a bit a couple weeks ago, still not 100%, not sure if it was the assisted pull up machine or dips
I can rattle out about 20 dips but Im not comfortable adding weight just yet
Impressive 3-14.
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Great progress Josh 8)
*Ive found the McGill Pull Up method is an excellent way for anyone to progress in Chins/Pull ups, using one of those door pull up bar contraptions at home.
Once or twice a week
eg 4 week progression.
Week 1) 6-8 rep set ( 30 sec rest inbetween each rep )
Week 2) 8-10 rep set (30 sec rest inbetween each rep)
Week 3) 10-15 rep set (30 sec rest inbetween each rep)
Week 4) Test - AMRAP
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Great progress Josh 8)
*Ive found the McGill Pull Up method is an excellent way for anyone to progress in Chins/Pull ups, using one of those door pull up bar contraptions at home.
Once or twice a week
eg 4 week progression.
Week 1) 6-8 rep set ( 30 sec rest inbetween each rep )
Week 2) 8-10 rep set (30 sec rest inbetween each rep)
Week 3) 10-15 rep set (30 sec rest inbetween each rep)
Week 4) Test - AMRAP
I read do not cross legs, it creates an imbalance in your core ans you relax one leg on the other
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I read do not cross legs, it creates an imbalance in your core ans you relax one leg on the other
I’ve always done them straight legged. Just feels right. Cross legs seemed weird to me.
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I used to pick a goal number,lets`s hypothetically say 30 reps, and just keep doing as many reps per set until the totaled 30 or whatever number it was that I chose regardless of the total number of sets.
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still on 14
Started working at half lever, will be trying balance stuff once my BP is down a bit
can hold with my feet tucked under at the moment
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oh, and I have lost 15lb as well
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still on 14
Started working at half lever, will be trying balance stuff once my BP is down a bit
can hold with my feet tucked under at the moment
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oh, and I have lost 15lb as well
Do you always work out shirtless in capri's while your "friend' who also happens to be shirtless videos you ??? :-\
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oh, and I have lost 15lb as well
Diet and cardio ??or just less food generally and downsizing ?
I’ve cleaned up my pantry as well and lost 6 lbs .Will try to get in some decent shape for summer.
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Diet and cardio ??or just less food generally and downsizing ?
I’ve cleaned up my pantry as well and lost 6 lbs .Will try to get in some decent shape for summer.
intermittent fasting
eat between 4pm and 8pm, only have one meal and maybe a bowl of granola cereal
probably only eating 75gms protein , zero muscle loss.
Coming to the conclusion protein is way over eaten by athletes these days
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intermittent fasting
eat between 4pm and 8pm, only have one meal and maybe a bowl of granola cereal
probably only eating 75gms protein , zero muscle loss.
Coming to the conclusion protein is way over eaten by athletes these days
I've long thought Protien is way over pushed - So they can sell Tons
of Fart powder at exorbitant prices.
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I've long thought Protien is way over pushed - So they can sell Tons
of Fart powder at exorbitant prices.
yep, along with the "you can only absorb 25gms per sitting"
That makes it impossible to eat 200gms a day unless you eat 8 meals a day
Along came fart powder and you can now drink 50gms over two shakes
I mentioned before guy who owned the gym used to eat one meal a day of steamed veg and he used to do Triathalons
He then added 6 eggs a day and added 28lb of volume just by adding some test and mast and hitting the weights again
It was old mass he regained but still he didnt eat any meat , it was 6 eggs , about 50 gms protein a day
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yep, along with the "you can only absorb 25gms per sitting"
That makes it impossible to eat 200gms a day unless you eat 8 meals a day
Along came fart powder and you can now drink 50gms over two shakes
I mentioned before guy who owned the gym used to eat one meal a day of steamed veg and he used to do Triathalons
He then added 6 eggs a day and added 28lb of volume just by adding some test and mast and hitting the weights again
It was old mass he regained but still he didnt eat any meat , it was 6 eggs , about 50 gms protein a day
So many lies & deliberate misinformation about dietary needs in
bodybuilding - all to sell more crap - I find it amusing though just
how many that should know better are still falling for it. ::)
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intermittent fasting
eat between 4pm and 8pm, only have one meal and maybe a bowl of granola cereal
probably only eating 75gms protein , zero muscle loss.
Coming to the conclusion protein is way over eaten by athletes these days
Agreed on the protein. It was pushed as 2g per pound of bodyweight for a long time. Eating and drinking all day trying to get that 500-600g per day. ::)
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Agreed on the protein. It was pushed as 2g per pound of bodyweight for a long time. Eating and drinking all day trying to get that 500-600g per day. ::)
I urge everyone on here to half their protein intake for a month, I gurantee you wont notice the difference.
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I urge everyone on here to half their protein intake for a month, I gurantee you wont notice the difference.
I'm bad at following my own advice but I think as we get older we need more protein to get the same effect we got when younger :D
As an athlete I think eating below the RDA is bad 8)
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Eating and drinking all day
Something you are good at.
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I'm bad at following my own advice but I think as we get older we need more protein to get the same effect we got when younger :D
As an athlete I think eating below the RDA is bad 8)
Try thinking something else.. ;D
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High protein is important for maximizing recovery and gains, I aim for 300grams a day from whole food sources and I notice the difference. The body can absorb much more than 25 grams per sitting. Plus it is satisfying and I enjoy eating. I am presently billowing full after 4 good meals today.
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High protein is important for maximizing recovery and gains, I aim for 300grams a day from whole food sources and I notice the difference. The body can absorb much more than 25 grams per sitting. Plus it is satisfying and I enjoy eating. I am presently billowing full after 4 good meals today.
agreed
But that was all part of Weidfers plan to sell fart powder
Nubret ate once a day , about 3-4lbs of horse meat...by Weiders argument he only absorbed 25gms per day
What differences do you notice?
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agreed
But that was all part of Weidfers plan to sell fart powder
Nubret ate once a day , about 3-4lbs of horse meat...by Weiders argument he only absorbed 25gms per day
What differences do you notice?
I get bigger fuller and harder and soreness fades faster, then in the gym I am stronger with better energy for my long sessions. Pre contest it helps me get leaner and preserve tissue.
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I get bigger fuller and harder and soreness fades faster, then in the gym I am stronger with better energy for my long sessions. Pre contest it helps me get leaner and preserve tissue.
all the things you listed are more linked to carbs, maybe not the recovery from muscle soreness.
Pre-contest you increase drugs
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agreed
But that was all part of Weidfers plan to sell fart powder
Nubret ate once a day , about 3-4lbs of horse meat...by Weiders argument he only absorbed 25gms per day
What differences do you notice?
TBH the recommendation was based on protein synthesis, which is not the same as digestion or absorption. And the data on the protein synthesis has changed a bit lately.
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TBH the recommendation was based on protein synthesis, which is not the same as digestion or absorption. And the data on the protein synthesis has changed a bit lately.
Yes, now its not a lie to sell fart powder...
then again people keep wasting money on it..
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Yes, now its not a lie to sell fart powder...
then again people keep wasting money on it..
Though now the data helps protein sales even more. One study showed 70 grams post workout was even better than 40 or 50 or whatever it was, the study can be easily found. One study said theres no ceiling to the protein synthesis increase lol :D
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Yes, now its not a lie to sell fart powder...
then again people keep wasting money on it..
Sometimes when I've finished my workout I sit in reception & eat my Banana/ chicken
or yogurt while watching the uneducated buying tubs of Fart powder ;D
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all the things you listed are more linked to carbs, maybe not the recovery from muscle soreness.
Pre-contest you increase drugs
Carbs are protein sparing but they are not the building blocks of muscle. Protein helps maintain the size pre contest even more than drugs. I can loose muscle and be on a gram of shite.
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High protein is important for maximizing recovery and gains, I aim for 300grams a day from whole food sources and I notice the difference. The body can absorb much more than 25 grams per sitting. Plus it is satisfying and I enjoy eating. I am presently billowing full after 4 good meals today.
300 grams !! Glad it works for you.
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Though now the data helps protein sales even more. One study showed 70 grams post workout was even better than 40 or 50 or whatever it was, the study can be easily found. One study said theres no ceiling to the protein synthesis increase lol :D
yes , a bit like if you train hard you will become a champion
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yes , a bit like if you train hard you will become a champion
If you train hard you are a champion!
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300 grams !! Glad it works for you.
Well, today I had around 650 grams of chicken (uncooked weight)
2 organic beef burgers 230gms
3 cans of tuna steak
6 large whole eggs
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Well, today I had around 650 grams of chicken (uncooked weight)
2 organic beef burgers
3 cans of tuna
6 whole eggs
Ha , I had pretty much the same except for the 3 tuna cans.
I had some sausages & bacon. ;D
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yes , a bit like if you train hard you will become a champion
They only tested 100 grams though.
The anabolic response to protein ingestion during recovery from exercise has no upper limit in magnitude and duration in vivo in humans
Abstract
The belief that the anabolic response to feeding during postexercise recovery is transient and has an upper limit and that excess amino acids are being oxidized lacks scientific proof. Using a comprehensive quadruple isotope tracer feeding-infusion approach, we show that the ingestion of 100 g protein results in a greater and more prolonged (>12 h) anabolic response when compared to the ingestion of 25 g protein. We demonstrate a dose-response increase in dietary-protein-derived plasma amino acid availability and subsequent incorporation into muscle protein. Ingestion of a large bolus of protein further increases whole-body protein net balance, mixed-muscle, myofibrillar, muscle connective, and plasma protein synthesis rates. Protein ingestion has a negligible impact on whole-body protein breakdown rates or amino acid oxidation rates. These findings demonstrate that the magnitude and duration of the anabolic response to protein ingestion is not restricted and has previously been underestimated in vivo in humans.
The anabolic response to a meal containing different amounts of protein is not limited by the maximal stimulation of protein synthesis in healthy young adults
Abstract
We have determined whole body protein kinetics, i.e., protein synthesis (PS), breakdown (PB), and net balance (NB) in human subjects in the fasted state and following ingestion of ~40 g [moderate protein (MP)], which has been reported to maximize the protein synthetic response or ~70 g [higher protein (HP)] protein, more representative of the amount of protein in the dinner of an average American diet. Twenty-three healthy young adults who had performed prior resistance exercise (X-MP or X-HP) or time-matched resting (R-MP or R-HP) were studied during a primed continuous infusion of l-[(2)H5]phenylalanine and l-[(2)H2]tyrosine. Subjects were randomly assigned into an exercise (X, n = 12) or resting (R, n = 11) group, and each group was studied at the two levels of dietary protein intake in random order. PS, PB, and NB were expressed as increases above the basal, fasting values (mg·kg lean body mass(-1)·min(-1)). Exercise did not significantly affect protein kinetics and blood chemistry. Feeding resulted in positive NB at both levels of protein intake: NB was greater in response to the meal containing HP vs. MP (P < 0.00001). The greater NB with HP was achieved primarily through a greater reduction in PB and to a lesser extent stimulation of protein synthesis (for all, P < 0.0001). HP resulted in greater plasma essential amino acid responses (P < 0.01) vs. MP, with no differences in insulin and glucose responses. In conclusion, whole body net protein balance improves with greater protein intake above that previously suggested to maximally stimulating muscle protein synthesis because of a simultaneous reduction in protein breakdown.
Interesting that 70 grams is said to be more representative of a typical American dinner than 40 grams. 40 grams is about 2 chicken breasts, which is not that easy for me to eat always. Well Americans are very fat though, so perhaps not surprising... :D
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Well, today I had around 650 grams of chicken (uncooked weight)
2 organic beef burgers 230gms
3 cans of tuna steak
6 large whole eggs
I had two sausages, 2 eggs
two fishcackes
bowl of granola cereal
Yesterday I ate 1 flap jack, 4 southern fried chicken fillet strips
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Resurrecting an old topic. If tracking macros, for most precise measuring, weigh meats uncooked or cooked? I think cooked as water content can differ, and chicken for example is often injected with water.
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Resurrecting an old topic. If tracking macros, for most precise measuring, weigh meats uncooked or cooked? I think cooked as water content can differ, and chicken for example is often injected with water.
Depends
Rice uncooked
Meat cooked
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Depends
Rice uncooked
Meat cooked
I have dehydrated Water. Either cooked or uncooked. ;)
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I have dehydrated Water. Either cooked or uncooked. ;)
I got a tub of that, I dont know what to add to it..
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I got a tub of that, I dont know what to add to it..
Apparently Fart powder goes well with it . 😂🤣
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dropped 9 kilos now can only get 12 reps as opposed to 14 when heavier
Lost strength with the weight cut
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dropped 9 kilos now can only get 12 reps as opposed to 14 when heavier
Lost strength with the weight cut
It'll come back.
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It'll come back.
Yup !
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I trained once with Bostin Loyd in 2015. He could not do a single, strict pull-up if his life depended on it.
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I trained once with Bostin Loyd in 2015. He could not do a single, strict pull-up if his life depended on it.
That’s pathetic.
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That’s pathetic.
:'(
I cant either
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managed 3 sets of 6 with 10k added after a full warm up
Dips and press ups to finish
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I trained once with Bostin Loyd in 2015. He could not do a single, strict pull-up if his life depended on it.
He's dropped a bit of mass now, maybe he's repping out with the Pope.
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managed 3 sets of 6 with 10k added after a full warm up
Dips and press ups to finish
Good stuff.
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Be careful and start slow - massage and fascia release is a must at an older age.
It's of course better to be able to do 60 at 20 but whatever floats your retirement boat.
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Why not start at 100 and work backwards?
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Be careful and start slow - massage and fascia release is a must at an older age.
It's of course better to be able to do 60 at 20 but whatever floats your retirement boat.
I do lots of wrist and shoulder warm ups, a few 60 second hangs (its a killer doing those)
I then warm up with band assisted pull ups
there are way less people who can do 20 at at 60 than 60 at 20
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Should be do-able, barring injury.
You may be trying to progress too quickly.
Like you said you did 14 max.
So, take 60% of 14 which is 8.
Do 5x8
Next do 98888
Next do 99888
Eventually 99999
Then do 10,999
Etc.
Even this may be too fast a progression.
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Should be do-able, barring injury.
You might need to do more volume.
Like you said you did 14 max.
So, take 60% of 14 which is 8.
Do 3x8 for 3 workouts
Next 3 workouts do 9,8,8
Next 3 do 9,9,8
Next 3 do 999
Then 10,9,9
Etc.
Slow progression.
Next day do 9,8,8
looks good, will give it a go this week
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looks good, will give it a go this week
I just changed it a bit.
The initial sets in the progression should be very do-able without affecting cns.
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I just changed it a bit.
The initial sets in the progression should be very do-able without affecting cns.
;D
that maybe doable for someone at 20 trying to do 60
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that maybe doable for someone at 20 trying to do 60
Adjust it to yourself.
If 5x8 is too much you could start at a lower rep range like 5x5.
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4x5 with 10kilos added
6 sets dips repped out 20-12 reps
6 sets press ups with handles hands just above waist and lift feet off floor for a second on the upward press (building strength to work towards this
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Good stuff, Swifty.
Are you hitting the legs too?
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3 x 6 with 10 k is great progress from where you started mate- well done!
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Good stuff, Swifty.
Are you hitting the legs too?
about once every three weeks weights wise, just rep out on leg press machine for a few sets and some calf raises, down a bit in size but still conditioned, dont need big legs now I wont be going onstage again.
I didnt train them at all for a few years in my 30s and still kept them, not the same at 60 but I dont care that much
Since I got the nerve damage and lost my left calf (still hasnt fully recovered) Im not concerned with legs anymore
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3 x 6 with 10 k is great progress from where you started mate- well done!
thanks pal
Still going for the elusive 20 reps, still got 3 months left before Im 60
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thanks pal
Still going for the elusive 20 reps, still got 3 months left before Im 60
close behind you Bro...coming up for 59 ;D
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thanks pal
Still going for the elusive 20 reps, still got 3 months left before Im 60
Even more impressive would be doing 20 at age 65.
In other words, you have plenty of time to become a legend.
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Even more impressive would be doing 20 at age 65.
In other words, you have plenty of time to become a legend.
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scary thing is I will probably be still posting on here. ::) ::)
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Good session today
lots of warm ups then
3 x 6 with 10k
2 x 4 with 15k
2 x 3 with 20k
5 min rest then hit my PB of 14 reps, should have gone for 15 but was getting a bit light headed
All full reps full hang between reps
Finished off with 3 x 60 second hangs
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Excellent.
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i hung from the bar today for a long time lol
I use that weight assisted chin up thing. When I started I had to put it on 180 lbs to do 6 chin ups. Now Im at 60 pounds assisted to do 10 so Im believe Im super close to being able to do a couple on my own
no chance I match joswift though, either in chins nor good looks :-\
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i hung from the bar today for a long time lol
I use that weight assisted chin up thing. When I started I had to put it on 180 lbs to do 6 chin ups. Now Im at 60 pounds assisted to do 10 so Im believe Im super close to being able to do a couple on my own
no chance I match joswift though, either in chins nor good looks :-\
thats good going pal well done
Its confusing at times, some days I struggle doing 8 then another day I can hit 12
I feel better doing them after a workout when fully warmed up
Try and go for a max unassisted at the end of ypur session
Bar hangs are supposedly great for after your workout as well