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This it not a rumor - this is a fact. Vinny Galanti is out of the NOC. Reasons coming shortly.
- Camp Galanti
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This it not a rumor - this is a fact. Vinny Galanti is out of the NOC. Reasons coming shortly.
- Camp Galanti
Confirmed.
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Lee Priest next?
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Confirmed.
I guess all those PDI-related URL's you registered aren't going to pay off, huh?
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Vinny Galanti - 0, Ice Rink - Undefeated
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Oh man PDI is iceskating up-hill !!
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If Lee backs out, this whole thing is kaput.
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anyone else drop out? vince and vinny, is that it?
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2 down...
Lee Priest to go...
Lee Priest will NOTcompete in the PDI...
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This looks very bad for the PDI. Money talks and bullshit walks = PDI walks.
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2 down...
Lee Priest to go...
Lee Priest will NOTcompete in the PDI...
And we all know what a complete victory it will be for fans and athletes should the IFBB retain its stranglehold upon the sport.
The decline in fanbase, disgusting guts, enlarged jawbones and elbows, and of course fixed shows will finally be safe!
Let's keep all the power with IFBB mgmt, so that they can continue the fine job they're doing in running pro Bbing into the ground!
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So what's the deal here? Wayne must not be a seller?
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And we all know what a complete victory it will be for fans and athletes should the IFBB retain its stranglehold upon the sport.
The decline in fanbase, disgusting guts, enlarged jawbones and elbows, and of course fixed shows will finally be safe!
Let's keep all the power with IFBB mgmt, so that they can continue the fine job they're doing in running pro Bbing into the ground!
Actually, it's only the Olympia that's a POS event.
The Arnold, Shawn, and Europa are cool.
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Actually, it's only the Olympia that's a POS event.
The Arnold, Shawn, and Europa are cool.
I agree. Some of the little shows are very cool too.
just sad that the same team has won the Super Bowl of the sport, every year for the last 8 years, no matter what the scoreboard said :-\
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And we all know what a complete victory it will be for fans and athletes should the IFBB retain its stranglehold upon the sport.
The decline in fanbase, disgusting guts, enlarged jawbones and elbows, and of course fixed shows will finally be safe!
Let's keep all the power with IFBB mgmt, so that they can continue the fine job they're doing in running pro Bbing into the ground!
what did i tell you? the pdi is a freaking joke dude
i bet chick is laughing like a mother right now ;D
first vince , now vinny, lee p is next(finally he will see the light)
IFBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB :D
RIP PDI :'(
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That's too bad. Just a few days ago Vinny came in and said he is still gonna do the show and will be fine by show time....what happened?
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what did i tell you? the pdi is a freaking joke dude
i bet chick is laughing like a mother right now ;D
first vince , now vinny, lee p is next(finally he will see the light)
IFBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB :D
Funny that you mention Chick, because he takes a lot of crap on here that is not necessary. I get so tired of Priest getting sucked off so much when he is of the most dishonest fucks around. Cathy does no drugs, Adela..oh no, hell he only uses a little tiny bit himself. That, and his style and grooming, tatts, and all that are a mix of about 50 different things that don't go well together. "You might be a redneck...."
RIP PDI :'(
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sean allen?
ouch...brutal lack of talent.
are you on crack? sean allen is the greatest.......
against people like mo ;D
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what did i tell you? the pdi is a freaking joke dude
i bet chick is laughing like a mother right now ;D
first vince , now vinny, lee p is next(finally he will see the light)
IFBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB :D
Funny that you mention Chick, because he takes a lot of crap on here that is not necessary. I get so tired of Priest getting sucked off so much when he is of the most dishonest dudes around. Cathy does no drugs, Adela..oh no, hell he only uses a little tiny bit himself. That, and his style and grooming, tatts, and all that are a mix of about 50 different things that don't go well together. "You might be a redneck...."
RIP PDI :'(
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what did i tell you? the pdi is a freaking joke dude
i bet chick is laughing like a mother right now ;D
This is like all the Walmart employees, laughing and dancing in the parking lot as the Target across the street closes. As they walk inside, Walmart mgmt laughs a bit louder.
Why? Well, now Walmart mgmt is now able to lower wages, cut hours, and eliminate benefits. After all, where else can the employees work now? Mgmt no longer has to worry about keeping shoppers happy either, and raises prices. After all, there are no other places in town to shop!
Cashiers will giggle as they work for less. Customers will laugh as they pay more and wait in longer lines to buy from a lower selection. They'll all claim a victory. They'll high-five and thank their Union rep for chasing Target out of town.
Be careful what you wish for.
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is this vp or 240 ???
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This board is a mess, how in the hell did that happen. Let me sum it up, Priest sucks...
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240 are they still having the NOC. And do we have vinnys reason for not doing it. Doing USA or NA instead?
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is this vp or 240 ???
This was my original post, but it got twisted. and I sure as hell am not either one of those two...
Funny that you mention Chick, because he takes a lot of crap on here that is not necessary. I get so tired of Priest getting sucked off so much when he is of the most dishonest dudes around. Cathy does no drugs, Adela..oh no, hell he only uses a little tiny bit himself. That, and his style and grooming, tatts, and all that are a mix of about 50 different things that don't go well together. "You might be a redneck...."
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This is like all the Walmart employees, laughing and dancing in the parking lot as the Target across the street closes. As they walk inside, Walmart mgmt laughs a bit louder.
Why? Well, now Walmart mgmt is now able to lower wages, cut hours, and eliminate benefits. After all, where else can the employees work now? Mgmt no longer has to worry about keeping shoppers happy either, and raises prices. After all, there are no other places in town to shop!
Cashiers will giggle as they work for less. Customers will laugh as they pay more and wait in longer lines to buy from a lower selection. They'll all claim a victory. They'll high-five and thank their Union rep for chasing Target out of town.
Be careful what you wish for.
::)
This is the best thing you can come up with?
NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE PDI
NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY GOODBYE PDI
:D
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This is the best thing you can come up with?
Yes. i have constructed an analogy which clearly puts the IFBB fan/athlete perspective into the grocery store environment so that all can understand it.
High-fiving because you are now working under the thumb of a monopoly - dancing and cheering as your only bargaining chip walks out the door - the ultimate in self-defeat.
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240, is the NOC cancelled.?
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ONLYME, where you at dawg
dont get silent on me now ;D
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240, is the NOC cancelled.?
yes
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ONLYME, where you at dawg
dont get silent on me now ;D
I am going to bitch about him too. The guy seemed to have some cred when he first started posting. Now his bitterness and escuses have gotten to be too much. "Did I ever tell you guys the story?" Your spider story would be somewhat compelling if you had not fallen into the trap of running your mouth as a vice.
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what about all the tickets that were sold. Anyhow, at least Lee P can still compete in the olympia. just sucks for jack, TJ and the euro guys that they started to diet and now no show. Well good effort
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I have heard nothing about the NOC being cancelled. Only that a guy got hurt. Last i heard, the place was almost sold out, and there are a lot of guys dieting their asses off and training for the Night of Champions.
It's starting out, there are going to be bumps. It's obvious the IFBB is doing what it can to stop the PDI from materializing. It is weird to me that some people here - fans - are anti-PDI. it's like eating fast food at McD everyday, and protesting a new Burger King in town. Or spending 3 nights a week at a titty bar and throwing a fit because a new one might open. It's more options, and you don't have to follow it if you don't want to. But it will make the sport you're currently following, better.
But, you can keep on high-fiving and celebrating the fact that most pro Bbers are going to stay poor, shows are still going to be low quality, and thse running the place have no motivation to improve.
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Look at 240 trying to teach first-year undergrad economic concepts to a bunch of people who never even finished high school.
It might be basic, but it's still over their heads. ::)
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sorry I got confused. I thought I read somewhere in the thread that it was cancelled. But thank you clearing it up for me. Maybe I will see some of you there.
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I normally just read the threads and keep my comments to myself, but in this case I do have to say that 240 has brought up some excellent points and his analogy to Wal-mart v. Target was right on the mark. Competition between organizations will help keep the sport alive and also push each organization to give their fans a great/good product. Of course, we could all continue to jump on the anti-PDI bandwagon and be stuck with a crappy Mr. Olympia year after year after year.
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Look at 240 trying to teach first-year undergrad economic concepts to a bunch of people who never even finished high school.
It might be basic, but it's still over their heads. ::)
Exactly.
Yay, IFBB wins, and the fans lose (or loose for the not-so-sharp around here).
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Look at 240 trying to teach first-year undergrad economic concepts to a bunch of people who never even finished high school.
It might be basic, but it's still over their heads. ::)
hi 240
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I normally just read the threads and keep my comments to myself, but in this case I do have to say that 240 has brought up some excellent points and his analogy to Wal-mart v. Target was right on the mark. Competition between organizations will help keep the sport alive and also push each organization to give their fans a great/good product. Of course, we could all continue to jump on the anti-PDI bandwagon and be stuck with a crappy Mr. Olympia year after year after year.
Thanks. I've said from minute one that I'm pro-PDI because I'm pro-competition. I'd also support the NEXT pro federation in a minute, because it means that both the PDI and IFBB would have to work harder to keep fans & athletes. I'm not blindly loyal to Wayne or anyone else. I'm paid to build websites and plan marketing, and I follow the sport.
Most anti-PDI athletes are like that because they want to appease their NPC/IFBB bosses, or because they are fools. If they're doing it to gain favor with the IFBB, it means the judging must be based on more than just physiques. Otherwise, they are fools - as only a fool would bad-talk an entity which will result in them being able to demand more money and better benefits for their services. It's basic economics.
And only a foolish fan would bad-talk something which would improve the IFBB shows they enjoy so much. Olympia prize money just jumped tremendously. Why NOW? Coincidence? Or enticement to keep top IFBB guys from jumping? ;) This would show that the PDI, before ever holding one show, has already improved life for the IFBB athletes. Every IFBB Olympia guy earns $4k now. Why NOW, when they got nothing before?
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A lot of fans definitely want a CREDIBLE alternative to the IFBB but the PDI doesn't appear to be it...
1. wayne... who really wants this guy running a federation? he is far from ideal...
2. empty promises... plenty of those so far...
3. lack of money... the WBF was a joke but it DID put more money in the bodybuilder's pockets. the pdi hasn't given a bobybuilder one penny so far...
when a meaningful alternative to the ifbb comes along with the right people and finances then many people will get behind it 100%...
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A lot of fans definitely want a CREDIBLE alternative to the IFBB but the PDI doesn't appear to be it...
1. wayne... who really wants this guy running a federation? he is far from ideal...
2. empty promises... plenty of those so far...
3. lack of money... the WBF was a joke but it DID put more money in the bodybuilder's pockets. the pdi hasn't given a bobybuilder one penny so far...
when a meaningful alternative to the ifbb comes along with the right people and finances then many people will get behind it 100%...
amen brother jwb
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amen brother jwb
All we need now is someone with 5 mill dollars who doesn't want it back in a hurry!
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Last i heard, the place was almost sold out
If Wayne said it, it must be true, because everyone knows Wayne would never lie.
It's obvious the IFBB is doing what it can to stop the PDI from materializing.
Why is that obvious? Is it maybe possible that with no real sponsorship, one true pro (with a history of ducking obligations), the early partnership with crook James Goad (who still owes a lot of prize money to pro's from over 2 years ago!), and Wayne's less-than-stellar rep as "the athlete's friend," PDI fell apart on its own?
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This is like all the Walmart employees, laughing and dancing in the parking lot as the Target across the street closes. As they walk inside, Walmart mgmt laughs a bit louder.
Why? Well, now Walmart mgmt is now able to lower wages, cut hours, and eliminate benefits. After all, where else can the employees work now? Mgmt no longer has to worry about keeping shoppers happy either, and raises prices. After all, there are no other places in town to shop!
Cashiers will giggle as they work for less. Customers will laugh as they pay more and wait in longer lines to buy from a lower selection. They'll all claim a victory. They'll high-five and thank their Union rep for chasing Target out of town.
Be careful what you wish for.
If Target put out a quality product at competitive pricing, you might have a point...
...but when the "competition" puts out a inferior product...
and no one knows whether the store is ever going to open or not...
and the two smaller "stores" that were supposed to open, never did...
and the "employees" were simply given a job without being qualified in the first place...
and no information on the "investors" that were supposed to be backing this venture, can be verified...
and the health care benefits for the workers have been shown to be a fraud...
I can't see where this analogy makes any sense.
BTW, no one except for the people in charge of "Target", have anyone to blame for their decisions.
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Olympia prize money just jumped tremendously. Why NOW? Coincidence? Or enticement to keep top IFBB guys from jumping? ;) This would show that the PDI, before ever holding one show, has already improved life for the IFBB athletes. Every IFBB Olympia guy earns $4k now. Why NOW, when they got nothing before?
The O money jumped LAST YEAR by 45% (when no one was talking PDI). It's not up much at all this year, maybe nothing at all, since the total depends on how many guys qualify. It only jumped by such a huge percentage AFTER Wayne was gone. And everyone got $2000 last year and they get at least $4000 this year. Wayne fought them getting anything year after year after year. He always said without an incentive to earn money they'd just show up out of shape to just get a check. It was Shawn Ray who first got the non-placing athletes money from an outside sponsor and announced it at the press conference 3 years ago, embarrassing Wayne (who was roundly booed). To give Wayne credit for what he fought against all those years is truly a joke!
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Thanks. I've said from minute one that I'm pro-PDI because I'm pro-competition. I'd also support the NEXT pro federation in a minute, because it means that both the PDI and IFBB would have to work harder to keep fans & athletes. I'm not blindly loyal to Wayne or anyone else. I'm paid to build websites and plan marketing, and I follow the sport.
Most anti-PDI athletes are like that because they want to appease their NPC/IFBB bosses, or because they are fools. If they're doing it to gain favor with the IFBB, it means the judging must be based on more than just physiques. Otherwise, they are fools - as only a fool would bad-talk an entity which will result in them being able to demand more money and better benefits for their services. It's basic economics.
And only a foolish fan would bad-talk something which would improve the IFBB shows they enjoy so much. Olympia prize money just jumped tremendously. Why NOW? Coincidence? Or enticement to keep top IFBB guys from jumping? ;) This would show that the PDI, before ever holding one show, has already improved life for the IFBB athletes. Every IFBB Olympia guy earns $4k now. Why NOW, when they got nothing before?
Why now? Because their representative worked hand in hand with the Promoter and the IFBB to get it raised to $4,000, thats why. To suggest it's because of a "federation" that has yet to see life...is a joke.
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If Target put out a quality product at competitive pricing, you might have a point...
...but when the "competition" puts out a inferior product...
and no one knows whether the store is ever going to open or not...
and the two smaller "stores" that were supposed to open, never did...
and the "employees" were simply given a job without being qualified in the first place...
and no information on the "investors" that were supposed to be backing this venture, can be verified...
and the health care benefits for the workers have been shown to be a fraud...
I can't see where this analogy makes any sense.
There are several educated people on this thread who DO see the WMT/TARGET analogy. If you cannot see it as Target, see it as a mom & pop mart on the corner, next door to walmart.
They might only hire 5 kids to work there. They might have a smaller selection. But they'll still provide options for customers (fans) and employees (IFBB athletes). They'll STILL make sure Walmart doesn't charge $10 for a gallon of milk, or pay $5.15 per hour. By the very nature of their existence, they will provide motivation for Walmart to "stay honest".
Bob, I contend that you do not understand simple economics/free market basics. or you do, and you are part of the other group who promotes a monopoly for your own personal gain, at the expense of athletes.
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Pro BBs don't compete for $$$money,they can't be that Stupid.
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Right...keep telling yourself that...and by all means DON'T address any of the counter-points to your analogy.
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Why now? Because their representative worked hand in hand with the Promoter and the IFBB to get it raised to $4,000, thats why. To suggest it's because of a "federation" that has yet to see life...is a joke.
LOL yes, we know, you're quick to claim credit. It just seems so strange they chose NOW to give everyone $4k money just to show up. "King, Lee, Vince, guys, you don't even have to diet - just qualify, show up in sweats, and pick up your $4k check for skipping the O."
Bob, the bottom line is that you are part of the IFBB machine. You are working very hard to ensure it remains a monopoly. You're using your position as athletes rep to actually limit their money-making abilities outside of the IFBB.
Astounding. When is the next election, Bob? Or did you get in office and eliminate that little detail?
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A lot of fans definitely want a CREDIBLE alternative to the IFBB but the PDI doesn't appear to be it...
1. wayne... who really wants this guy running a federation? he is far from ideal...
2. empty promises... plenty of those so far...
3. lack of money... the WBF was a joke but it DID put more money in the bodybuilder's pockets. the pdi hasn't given a bobybuilder one penny so far...
when a meaningful alternative to the ifbb comes along with the right people and finances then many people will get behind it 100%...
This guy pretty much sums it up....well said.
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Your counter points :
and the two smaller "stores" that were supposed to open, never did...
Failed local businesses in the past have zero bearing on WMT's competition with a new firm. I know of a horse buggy firm that failed in 1880. Ford doesn't use this data when making strategic decisions.
...but when the "competition" puts out a inferior product...
Customers have different preferences, and in every field, there is one company with a superior product, and many with inferior products. Are you saying that since McD is #1, all other restaurants have no reason to exist? People like choices.
and no one knows whether the store is ever going to open or not...
No one knows if a meteor is going to hit Earth tomorrow. There is minimal certainty in the free market as in life, and you make money by taking risks based upon this lack of certainty.
and the "employees" were simply given a job without being qualified in the first place...
Right. Please explain how Target's hiring policy affects Wal-Mart. They are more lenient? Halieijua! This is a good thing if you are a bodybuilder or fan. means we don't have to see the same batch of 35-year old mediocre clones that turn pro every year.
and the health care benefits for the workers have been shown to be a fraud...
And you have the IFBB health care plan, which for some reason, no one wants to buy. Again, let the employees choose which company to work for, based upon things like location benefits, pay, and work environment. Why should you decide for them?
and no information on the "investors" that were supposed to be backing this venture, can be verified...
Please show me an audit of the books of the IFBB, a public non-profit group, before questioning the inner workings of a privately held firm like the PDI.
Okay. Your turn.
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LOL yes, we know, you're quick to claim credit. It just seems so strange they chose NOW to give everyone $4k money just to show up. "King, Lee, Vince, guys, you don't even have to diet - just qualify, show up in sweats, and pick up your $4k check for skipping the O."
Bob, the bottom line is that you are part of the IFBB machine. You are working very hard to ensure it remains a monopoly. You're using your position as athletes rep to actually limit their money-making abilities outside of the IFBB.
Astounding. When is the next election, Bob? Or did you get in office and eliminate that little detail?
I only claim credit for what I do...and I think it's been pretty damn good so far.
You're talking stupid again....why would a guy spend 5-7K of his own money, to simply "show up " out of shape to collect $4K, and look like shit at the biggest BB show in the world??? Amazing...you and Wayne have the exact same mentality...no wonder this guy is your idol.
Do a little history homework...It was Wayne and I that had this same argument at the 2002 Press conference.
The athletes can vote me out anytime, if they think thats in their best interest. anyone can run against me next election...all the power to them.
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Didn't Lee have a leg injury he is nursing right now? I thought he mentioned it recently. I bet he will drop out too for one reason or another.
PDI is looking to become quite an embarassment. Maybe Rhino will win. LOL
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Target and Wallmart employees earn more money than 90% of pros, and dont have to stick half their paychecks in their ass to keep their jobs, Pro bodybuilding is a joke.
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Your counter points :
and the two smaller "stores" that were supposed to open, never did...
Failed local businesses in the past have zero bearing on WMT's competition with a new firm. I know of a horse buggy firm that failed in 1880. Ford doesn't use this data when making strategic decisions.
A. Bullshit...It shows a trend, and a look at things to come.
...but when the "competition" puts out a inferior product...
Customers have different preferences, and in every field, there is one company with a superior product, and many with inferior products. Are you saying that since McD is #1, all other restaurants have no reason to exist? People like choices.
A. Yes, they like choices of a QUALITY product....restaurants serving crappy food, close quickly.
and no one knows whether the store is ever going to open or not...
No one knows if a meteor is going to hit Earth tomorrow. There is minimal certainty in the free market as in life, and you make money by taking risks based upon this lack of certainty.
A. So far, a meteor hitting the earth may be more likely.
and the "employees" were simply given a job without being qualified in the first place...
Right. Please explain how Target's hiring policy affects Wal-Mart. They are more lenient? Halieijua! This is a good thing if you are a bodybuilder or fan. means we don't have to see the same batch of 35-year old mediocre clones that turn pro every year.
A. People will "shop" at a place where employees know what they're doing...simple. It's like any job that requires a degree...it shows a level of achievment for a position.
and the health care benefits for the workers have been shown to be a fraud...
And you have the IFBB health care plan, which for some reason, no one wants to buy. Again, let the employees choose which company to work for, based upon things like location benefits, pay, and work environment. Why should you decide for them?
A. Once again...talking out of your ass...there have been plenty of pro's that have switched to this plan...at a fraction of what they were paying. The "employee's" are choosing, based on everything you mentioned...is there really a decision to be made here?? One company exsists..the other is a premise.
and no information on the "investors" that were supposed to be backing this venture, can be verified...
Please show me an audit of the books of the IFBB, a public non-profit group, before questioning the inner workings of a privately held firm like the PDI.
A. I'm talking about the companies supporting the cause...WHERE ARE THEY? Where's the money coming from? Last I checked...The "Walmart" company had many investors contributing...So far the Target company has ZERO.
Okay. Your turn.
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A. Bullshit...It shows a trend, and a look at things to come.
Bbing fans were spoonfed info from FLEX back then. Of course the WBF failed. With the Internet, however, information flows freely and fans know the truth about shady IFBB judging, shitty paydays, and politics.
A. Yes, they like choices of a QUALITY product....restaurants serving crappy food, close quickly.
And you, the Rep of the Chefs Union, can decide without tasting the food, that all 200 of the men you represent should not work there? If it's that bad, perhaps 10 of your worst chefs can find work there! More money for your guys, boss!
A. So far, a meteor hitting the earth may be more likely.
Monster one-liner revealing your brutally limited understanding of basic concepts I presented.
A. People will "shop" at a place where employees know what they're doing...simple. It's like any job that requires a degree...it shows a level of achievment for a position.
People shop at Walmart for prices and Target for service. They eat at McD for price and Red Lobster for a good menu. Why should you determine the fate of 200 men, instead of letting the market decide? Google "laissez faire".
A. Once again...talking out of your ass...there have been plenty of pro's that have switched to this plan...at a fraction of what they were paying.
Since many IFBB pros earn $0 each year, unless your plan is free, it's not perfect. Until it is perfect, stop crapping on other companies for trying to develop their own plan.
A. I'm talking about the companies supporting the cause...WHERE ARE THEY? Where's the money coming from? Last I checked...The "Walmart" company had many investors contributing...So far the Target company has ZERO.
Zero that you have been told about, Bob. So what if Wayne funds the whole kit&kaboodle. It's a private firm - and a startup at that. Many business owners will put their own money into a firm to grow it, in the early years.
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The IFBB will end soon too.
Target and Wallmart employees earn more money than 90% of pros, and dont have to stick half their paychecks in their ass to keep their jobs, Pro bodybuilding is a joke.
That is true "Massive G", very true.
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I only claim credit for what I do...and I think it's been pretty damn good so far.
You're talking stupid again....why would a guy spend 5-7K of his own money, to simply "show up " out of shape to collect $4K, and look like shit at the biggest BB show in the world??? Amazing...you and Wayne have the exact same mentality...no wonder this guy is your idol.
Do a little history homework...It was Wayne and I that had this same argument at the 2002 Press conference.
The athletes can vote me out anytime, if they think thats in their best interest. anyone can run against me next election...all the power to them.
Why would a guy need to spend 5-7 thousand dollars on drugs anyways?
That is stupid to begin with.....The whole fucking she-bang is stupid. When will you people realize that there is little interest in revenue because of everything negative associated with "the sport".
People really don`t care because they cannot relate, nor do they want to. The smart ones know that it is all drugs and do not want a part in it.
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You're talking stupid again....
Once again...talking out of your ass
Also, i noticed the disrespectful tone you take when debating a topic.
Men who respect themselves will show respect to their adversaries. Men who respect their position will display professionalism when speaking from this pulpit. The way you speak down to someone who presents an argument (or a challenge) is an indicator of your own insecurities and possible lack of self-worth. Look it up... I'm not making this stuff up. Very likely you feel insecure/threatened and you feel the need to add belittling insults to an otherwise respectful discussion.
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What happened to Target?
And to brag about the competitors getting $4,000 is absolutely one of the funniest things ever. Why Chic do you take credit for this. Lets say you were 100% the reason this happened. It is NOT something to brag about. Why do you or if anyone else think this is allot of money or even anything. It is almost an embarrasement to get paid this amount. Getting nothing is almost as good. Instead of getting these guys pennies go after dollars. You know how much the IFBB gets for the Olympia. WhY do they have to get that much money for a sanction fee. Set it at what Lorimar pays. There is no reason why the IFBB needs that kind of outrageous amount for a sanction fee. That will free up over $200,000 more dollars to distribute to the competitors. Do that and impress everyone. I guarantee you do that you will have more than 3 people at the meetings you call. Why does the IFBB put on a cheaper show yet only increase the prize money $40,000. The save way more than that doing the show at the Orleans. Wayne had the Mandalay Bay paid up through 2004. He paid the deposit and even left the staging and lighting there for the AMI to use. Yet the chose not to use his lighting and staging but used Wayne's deposit he had on th Mandalay Bay. They chose to spend money on additonal staging and lighting. Why did they wast the money on that show. They wanted to completely get away from anything Wayne did yet the used his deposit. He left it there for them just like the other stuff but instead of paying the deposit themselves they used his. Just interesting stuff the IFBB does to save money and waste money at the same time.
So here is your mission if you chose to accept it. Tell the IFBB to lower the sanction fees for the Olympia and use that extra money to increased the prize money. Make the lower standings get a minimum of $10,000 with a stipulation they need to look good or whatever. And increase the top 10. You'llhave all kinds of guy on your side and maybe they will show up to your meetings.
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....or maybe I just think you're a putz.
Thank you Dr. Freud
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....or maybe I just think you're a putz.
Thank you Dr. Freud
A putz who has just delivered a very valid argument for how free market competition benefits the workers and customers?
A putz who has shown you to be biased and unstable, in front of your peers?
A putz who cares more about the bottom 100 IFBB athletes than you do?
Yes, a putz.
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I'm all for lowered sanction fee's...
and $4,000 is $4,000 more than what Wayne was willing to give which was $0.
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A putz who has just delivered a very valid argument for how free market competition benefits the workers and customers?
A putz who has shown you to be biased and unstable, in front of your peers?
A putz who cares more about the bottom 100 IFBB athletes than you do?
Yes, a putz.
You showed no valid argument...and ignored the facts as they are.
For someone who is alledgedly "biased and unstable" I seem to get quite a lot accomplished for the athletes.
I put money in athlete's pockets...bottom line.
Yes, a putz.
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I put money in athlete's pockets...bottom line.
You spent the last 3 months bashing a show which would have put $30K in prize money into IFBB guys' pockets.
Bottom line is, you're all for them making money in the IFBB, under the IFBB's thumb, playing by the IFBB's rules. If they want to earn money on a non-ifbb show weekend, you block their efforts. THAT is the bottom line.
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Chick, your fighting with the Peanut gallery again.
Nice job on helping the Pro's get $$ in their pockects that only a year ago was not there.
Progress maybe slow but the work your doing does not go unnoticed by the pockets that $$ falls into.
As for the board, well, you and I both know...You gotta love it here!
Keep up the good work, the Athletes truly recognize the strides being made by your efforts and those of the IFBB listening and working in concert with the idea's placed before them.
Peace,
S
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If Target put out a quality product at competitive pricing, you might have a point...
...but when the "competition" puts out a inferior product...
and no one knows whether the store is ever going to open or not...
and the two smaller "stores" that were supposed to open, never did...
and the "employees" were simply given a job without being qualified in the first place...
and no information on the "investors" that were supposed to be backing this venture, can be verified...
and the health care benefits for the workers have been shown to be a fraud...
I can't see where this analogy makes any sense.
BTW, no one except for the people in charge of "Target", have anyone to blame for their decisions.
it would make perfect sense if you ever went to college and took an economics class or were you too busy takring 17 years to get your pro card
maybe your just jealous the PDI wasn;t around when you were competeing back then
just my two cents
ps my typeing sucks caus ei made my girlfriend type my papers in college i worked two jobs and competed while in college
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Chick, your fighting with the Peanut gallery again.
Nice job on helping the Pro's get $$ in their pockects that only a year ago was not there.
Progress maybe slow but the work your doing does not go unnoticed by the pockets that $$ falls into.
As for the board, well, you and I both know...You gotta love it here!
Keep up the good work, the Athletes truly recognize the strides being made by your efforts and those of the IFBB listening and working in concert with the idea's placed before them.
Peace,
S
I just don`t think you people get it yet. Do you really like bodybuilding to be an underground sport? Or do you want it to ever make money?
Its getting worse and worse in case you haven`t noticed.
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You spent the last 3 months bashing a show which would have put $30K in prize money into IFBB guys' pockets.
Bottom line is, you're all for them making money in the IFBB, under the IFBB's thumb, playing by the IFBB's rules. If they want to earn money on a non-ifbb show weekend, you block their efforts. THAT is the bottom line.
Once again, you like to speak like you have some knowledge of what actually goes on....YOU DON'T.
I've blocked no one's efforts to compete wherever they wish...that's a fact.
I haven't bashed the PDI once...I've only presented the facts. Or should I sugarcoat everything like you do? The athletes have a right to know whats going on...good or bad.
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I just don`t think you people get it yet. Do you really like bodybuilding to be an underground sport? Or do you want it to ever make money?
Its getting worse and worse in case you haven`t noticed.
totally agree but it's cause the only place there is money is at the top and if youdont; have the knowledge or gentics the only way to win is to take mor eshit in most of these pro's eyes unfortunatley
thus makeing them a freak show look at heiko do you think anyone even wants to look at him he looks liek a horrible plastic surgery gone wrong....honeslt everyone should wanna look like mike o'hearn maybe slightly thinker
i deal physiques are and were hawn ray levrone cormier still is dex charles clairmonte phil heath
non ideal are ruhl kamali ronnie jay to some extent....this list is far too long and the othe rfar too short
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totally agree but it's cause the only place there is money is at the top and if youdont; have the knowledge or gentics the only way to win is to take mor eshit in most of these pro's eyes unfortunatley
thus makeing them a freak show look at heiko do you think anyone even wants to look at him he looks liek a horrible plastic surgery gone wrong....honeslt everyone should wanna look like mike o'hearn maybe slightly thinker
i deal physiques are and were hawn ray levrone cormier still is dex charles clairmonte phil heath
non ideal are ruhl kamali ronnie jay to some extent....this list is far too long and the othe rfar too short
i still dont understand why you dont use spell check
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to lazy and i enjoy makeing people bitch at me
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Once again, you like to speak like you have some knowledge of what actually goes on....YOU DON'T.
I've blocked no one's efforts to compete wherever they wish...that's a fact.
I haven't bashed the PDI once...I've only presented the facts. Or should I sugarcoat everything like you do? The athletes have a right to know whats going on...good or bad.
I guess I just can't see why you continually dispute the relevance of these economic principles which apply in every other business model in America.
I make a point that competition between firms is good for athletes. You attack the new competitor. An athletes rep in ANY other sport would be thrilled to have a competing org. appear out of nowhere. A bargaining chip falling out of the sky!
I guess I just see this as an opportunity that you can't shoot in the foot fast enough, and I don't get it.
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totally agree but it's cause the only place there is money is at the top and if youdont; have the knowledge or gentics the only way to win is to take mor eshit in most of these pro's eyes unfortunatley
thus makeing them a freak show look at heiko do you think anyone even wants to look at him he looks liek a horrible plastic surgery gone wrong....honeslt everyone should wanna look like mike o'hearn maybe slightly thinker
i deal physiques are and were hawn ray levrone cormier still is dex charles clairmonte phil heath
non ideal are ruhl kamali ronnie jay to some extent....this list is far too long and the othe rfar too short
The root of the problem is the drugs and everything associated around it. The majority of people who follow bodybuilding DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who work out at gyms DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who buy any products that bodybuilders endorse DO NOT use drugs. With the drugs also comes the gay for pay(how some bodybuilders pay for their drugs),finding a way to illegally use drugs in mass quantities, only doing shows if they have enough money for drugs. Then you have the sub-sub-culture that follows with the recreational drugs,the grey area in which bodybuilders use other drugs such as nubain pretending it is helping with pain...etc....
Its a big fucking mess.
How can anyone want to aspire to live that kind of life? They can`t,don`t and won`t. Other sports are popular because people can relate and have more of a connection to. There is a possibility of anyone becoming successful based on their own hard word. In this fucked up sport, you don`t have any chance at reaching the top unless you accept drugs. Most people DO NOT want that.
You are all bad for the sport actually.
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Ya gotta give credit where it's due...and here Bob deserves it. It's too bad about the number of competitors that actually showed up and supported the meetings Bob has had, but regardless of their support this guy still worked hard and got ALL competitors a pay check. Sure everyone would like to see it be more, but it is what it is...appreciate it for now and hopefully for them the future will be even brighter.
Getting back to Vinny. After his little accident he did say he'll be fine and ready to go for the show. If something unexpected came up then that's too bad, but if he just decides to back out or compete at another show after agreeing to do the NOC that's messed up.
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The root of the problem is the drugs and everything associated around it. The majority of people who follow bodybuilding DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who work out at gyms DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who buy any products that bodybuilders endorse DO NOT use drugs. With the drugs also comes the gay for pay(how some bodybuilders pay for their drugs),finding a way to illegally use drugs in mass quantities, only doing shows if they have enough money for drugs. Then you have the sub-sub-culture that follows with the recreational drugs,the grey area in which bodybuilders use other drugs such as nubain pretending it is helping with pain...etc....
Its a big fucking mess.
How can anyone want to aspire to live that kind of life? They can`t,don`t and won`t. Other sports are popular because people can relate and have more of a connection to. There is a possibility of anyone becoming successful based on their own hard word. In this fucked up sport, you don`t have any chance at reaching the top unless you accept drugs. Most people DO NOT want that.
You are all bad for the sport actually.
I think all involved are just blind and stupid actually.
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I guess I just can't see why you continually dispute the relevance of these economic principles which apply in every other business model in America.
I make a point that competition between firms is good for athletes. You attack the new competitor. An athletes rep in ANY other sport would be thrilled to have a competing org. appear out of nowhere. A bargaining chip falling out of the sky!
I guess I just see this as an opportunity that you can't shoot in the foot fast enough, and I don't get it.
And I (and many others) have continuously pointed out that it may NOT be good for the athletes, which you choose to ignore.
So far...it's not remotely close to being a "competing" organization, and there is certainly no bargaining chip. The WBF was a bargaining chip as they were PAYING their athlete's a good chunk of change to switch to their federation...
Whats the great bargaining chip I have at my disposal? "Better give us more money, IFBB...or the ONE athlete that is interested is going to jump ship...!" Let's try this one..."Better give us more money, IFBB...or the amateurs that weren't pro anyway are going to jump ship...!"
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The root of the problem is the drugs and everything associated around it. The majority of people who follow bodybuilding DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who work out at gyms DO NOT use drugs. The majority of people who buy any products that bodybuilders endorse DO NOT use drugs. With the drugs also comes the gay for pay(how some bodybuilders pay for their drugs),finding a way to illegally use drugs in mass quantities, only doing shows if they have enough money for drugs. Then you have the sub-sub-culture that follows with the recreational drugs,the grey area in which bodybuilders use other drugs such as nubain pretending it is helping with pain...etc....
Its a big fucking mess.
How can anyone want to aspire to live that kind of life? They can`t,don`t and won`t. Other sports are popular because people can relate and have more of a connection to. There is a possibility of anyone becoming successful based on their own hard word. In this fucked up sport, you don`t have any chance at reaching the top unless you accept drugs. Most people DO NOT want that.
You are all bad for the sport actually.
no. the problem is that steroids are illegal.
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And I (and many others) have continuously pointed out that it may NOT be good for the athletes, which you choose to ignore.
So far...it's not remotely close to being a "competing" organization, and there is certainly no bargaining chip. The WBF was a bargaining chip as they were PAYING their athlete's a good chunk of change to switch to their federation...
Whats the great bargaining chip I have at my disposal? "Better give us more money, IFBB...or the ONE athlete that is interested is going to jump ship...!" Let's try this one..."Better give us more money, IFBB...or the amateurs that weren't pro anyway are going to jump ship...!"
You got motherfuckers with no kidneys competing. A bunch of hoodlums doing tricks for drug money. Competitors freezing up on stage, competitors being hospitalized, Pros selling drugs of all kinds. You mean to tell me your whip-dee-fucking-doo 4000 dollar pay increase really makes that much of a difference?
Look at the big picture and see the real problem...Wake the fuck up. Do something right for a change.
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Deletions are fun! You know you struck a nerve when your last 4 posts are gone! haha yes
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Oh thats nice.
Delete all of my posts.
SAD SAD SAD.
Why are you letting this shit go on with bodybuilding? In any other PRO sport if this many people died or had such health problems, there would be reformation and change.
Yet you do nothing, and nobody does anything.
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you know what the problem is with pro bodybuilding? Not enough drugs.
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you know what the problem is with pro bodybuilding? Not enough drugs.
hahahahah. Im just trying to think of any other sport where people die and get serious health problems, yet the people in charge do nothing but continue to promote the very behavior that is threatening it all.
They are in denial and delusional....I hope they all fail...PDI and IFBB. They deserve it if they cannot see the problems.
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I hope they all fail...PDI and IFBB.
Me too.
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I can`t believe these fags are bickering over a couple grand when peoples health are at stake and the whole reputation of "the sport" is in question.
ITs kind of amusing.
If Tom Prince would have gotten a 4000 dollar consolation prize, what would that have done for him? He is still in denial though so it doesn`t really matter.
A better consolation prize would be paid Doctors visits for a year. hahahahah
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I can`t believe these fags are bickering over a couple grand when peoples health are at stake and the whole reputation of "the sport" is in question.
ITs kind of amusing.
If Tom Prince would have gotten a 4000 dollar consolation prize, what would that have done for him? He is still in denial though so it doesn`t really matter.
A better consolation prize would be paid Doctors visits for a year. hahahahah
kinda scary when TA makes sense
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What happened to Target?
And to brag about the competitors getting $4,000 is absolutely one of the funniest things ever. Why Chic do you take credit for this. Lets say you were 100% the reason this happened. It is NOT something to brag about. Why do you or if anyone else think this is allot of money or even anything. It is almost an embarrasement to get paid this amount. Getting nothing is almost as good. Instead of getting these guys pennies go after dollars. You know how much the IFBB gets for the Olympia. WhY do they have to get that much money for a sanction fee. Set it at what Lorimar pays. There is no reason why the IFBB needs that kind of outrageous amount for a sanction fee. That will free up over $200,000 more dollars to distribute to the competitors. Do that and impress everyone. I guarantee you do that you will have more than 3 people at the meetings you call. Why does the IFBB put on a cheaper show yet only increase the prize money $40,000. The save way more than that doing the show at the Orleans. Wayne had the Mandalay Bay paid up through 2004. He paid the deposit and even left the staging and lighting there for the AMI to use. Yet the chose not to use his lighting and staging but used Wayne's deposit he had on th Mandalay Bay. They chose to spend money on additonal staging and lighting. Why did they wast the money on that show. They wanted to completely get away from anything Wayne did yet the used his deposit. He left it there for them just like the other stuff but instead of paying the deposit themselves they used his. Just interesting stuff the IFBB does to save money and waste money at the same time.
So here is your mission if you chose to accept it. Tell the IFBB to lower the sanction fees for the Olympia and use that extra money to increased the prize money. Make the lower standings get a minimum of $10,000 with a stipulation they need to look good or whatever. And increase the top 10. You'llhave all kinds of guy on your side and maybe they will show up to your meetings.
As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.
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You're talking stupid again....why would a guy spend 5-7K of his own money, to simply "show up " out of shape to collect $4K, and look like shit at the biggest BB show in the world???
Bob, personally I think it's great that the price money is increasing, regardless of where it comes from. I think the minimum payout should at least be $7K so competitors truly break even.
They way you present it....
$4K payoff - $6K prep = -$2K......competitors are still in the negative....
I
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As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.
Wow well that says it all. I too always thought the IFBB just stuck in more prize money cause they are looking out for the well being of the competitor. Adding $6,000 is nothing.
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I don't understand why when Vinny was competing in the NOC everyone was saying wow big deal he is nothing, couldn't ever make it as an IFBB pro, and now he isn't doing the show, the show is doomed. Why?
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I don't understand why when Vinny was competing in the NOC everyone was saying wow big deal he is nothing, couldn't ever make it as an IFBB pro, and now he isn't doing the show, the show is doomed. Why?
Because the speculation is that he backed out to go back to the ifbb. I am sorry Vinny, but I have to do this. According to Vinny, he tore is biceps tendon. This is the reason why he is not competing, not because he is doing the usa's or some other show. He e-mailed me yesterday telling me that he can't train for 4-6 weeks so he is out. He also said he had himself in 2nd or 3rd and that he was bummed because he could use the money. He then e-mail me again and asked me to keep it quite and vague, because it is his personal business and wants to keep it private. Why? I am sorry Vinny, but your actions and need explaining, because I for one, will not stand by, and watch everyone gloat. Unless there is another reason that I don't know why you would want to keep it quite???????
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Well, one person does not make a Contest so hopefully Vinny will recover and compete next year...........if there is a next year! ::)
Let the games begin! ;D
Who's left to compete in the show, anyone got a list of the competition?
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Well, one person does not make a Contest so hopefully Vinny will recover and compete next year...........if there is a next year! ::)
Let the games begin! ;D
Who's left to compete in the show, anyone got a list of the competition?
Lee Preist
Rhino
Russian Guy #1
Russian Guy #2
TJ Scherborne(sp)
Russian Guy #3
SAmi Habukad (sp) ...from Game The Team
Russian Guy #4
Frank McGrath
sidenote, if Russian Guy #3 dials it in, its a WRAP!!!
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Because the speculation is that he backed out to go back to the ifbb. I am sorry Vinny, but I have to do this. According to Vinny, he tore is biceps tendon. This is the reason why he is not competing, not because he is doing the usa's or some other show. He e-mailed me yesterday telling me that he can't train for 4-6 weeks so he is out. He also said he had himself in 2nd or 3rd and that he was bummed because he could use the money. He then e-mail me again and asked me to keep it quite and vague, because it is his personal business and wants to keep it private. Why? I am sorry Vinny, but your actions and need explaining, because I for one, will not stand by, and watch everyone gloat. Unless there is another reason that I don't know why you would want to keep it quite???????
way to sell your "friend" down the river "rhino"...maybe now they'll put your trashcan physique on the ads...probably not...more guest posings for rhino...doubtful...big sean allen who swears at judges on stage and storms off stage gets more respect already from your beloved pdi...but at least you have a photo shoot with musclemag...try not to wear the same pink shirt twice...maybe a different angle from your cubicle this time..."gloat"??? your ugly mug comes on here and gloats anytime you take a shit and feel the world should know about it... and how hot your assistant is...speak of insecurity you reek of it rhino...get us all come coffee...
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Well, one person does not make a Contest so hopefully Vinny will recover and compete next year...........if there is a next year! ::)
Let the games begin! ;D
Who's left to compete in the show, anyone got a list of the competition?
;D
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way to sell your "friend" down the river "rhino"...maybe now they'll put your trashcan physique on the ads...probably not...more guest posings for rhino...doubtful...big sean allen who swears at judges on stage and storms off stage gets more respect already from your beloved pdi...but at least you have a photo shoot with musclemag...try not to wear the same pink shirt twice...maybe a different angle from your cubicle this time..."gloat"??? your ugly mug comes on here and gloats anytime you take a shit and feel the world should know about it... and how hot your assistant is...speak of insecurity you reek of it rhino...get us all come coffee...
ahahahaha
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Note to self...Rhino isnt good at keeping secrets.
jk
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This was my original post, but it got twisted. and I sure as hell am not either one of those two...
Funny that you mention Chick, because he takes a lot of crap on here that is not necessary. I get so tired of Priest getting sucked off so much when he is of the most dishonest dudes around. Cathy does no drugs, Adela..oh no, hell he only uses a little tiny bit himself. That, and his style and grooming, tatts, and all that are a mix of about 50 different things that don't go well together. "You might be a redneck...."
might be but your a DUMB C U N T
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Lee Preist
Rhino
Russian Guy #1
Russian Guy #2
TJ Scherborne(sp)
Russian Guy #3
SAmi Habukad (sp) ...from Game The Team
Russian Guy #4
Frank McGrath
sidenote, if Russian Guy #3 dials it in, its a WRAP!!!
ahahahahah oh brother :D
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might be but your a DUMB C U N T
Lee Priest welcome back to the IFBB dawg, glad you left that PDI
Look on the bright side maybe you can hook back up with your ex girlfriend
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Sorry still doing PDI :)
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Sorry still doing PDI :)
when will you announce you are being dropped by twinlab...before or after you compete in the noc?
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Sorry still doing PDI :)
looks like your going to be the only bodybuilder there, should be an easy victory for you ;D
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Sorry still doing PDI :)
Im going to the NOC!!!! Lee Preist is prob. the only reason i am.
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I guess I just can't see why you continually dispute the relevance of these economic principles which apply in every other business model in America.
I make a point that competition between firms is good for athletes. You attack the new competitor. An athletes rep in ANY other sport would be thrilled to have a competing org. appear out of nowhere. A bargaining chip falling out of the sky!
I guess I just see this as an opportunity that you can't shoot in the foot fast enough, and I don't get it.
yeah okay ;D
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hahahahah. Im just trying to think of any other sport where people die and get serious health problems, yet the people in charge do nothing but continue to promote the very behavior that is threatening it all.
They are in denial and delusional....I hope they all fail...PDI and IFBB. They deserve it if they cannot see the problems.
I wish I could get an answer on this. Why?
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Im going to the NOC!!!! Lee Preist is prob. the only reason i am.
make sure you get there early its going to be an empty pack show filled with one many competitors
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Lee Preist
Rhino
Russian Guy #1
Russian Guy #2
TJ Scherborne(sp)
Russian Guy #3
SAmi Habukad (sp) ...from Game The Team
Russian Guy #4
Frank McGrath
sidenote, if Russian Guy #3 dials it in, its a WRAP!!!
lol
Great thread! Now my two cents...
1. I didn't think the PDI had any credibility even before this announcement. But even PDI-cheerleaders (I'm looking at you, 240!) will have to admit that the withdrawal is a serious blow to an organization that was already struggling. At this rate, I would not be at all surprised to see the NOC cancelled - "nearly sold out" or not. Whether you would choose to mourn or celebrate is up to you.
2. The problem with even a Wal-Mart/mom-and-pop analogy is that it presupposes an effectively limitless consumer base that could support both (and others besides). Even if you make the completely unproven assumption that the IFBB's head-up-assedness has left significant amounts of bodybuilding interest untapped, the Chickster is right on this at least: there is barely enough supplement-company sponsorship money coming in to support even the one monopoly federation. Even if the PDI could stagger along for a while, it would only be diluting what is already weak tea.
3. I agree that the changes to the Olympia prize money are nothing to soil one's trunks over. But it's a little better than nothing - and the bodybuilders probably wouldn't even have that if someone hadn't hassled the IFBB about it. So whatever credit is due should go to the athlete's rep - stooge though he may be - who, last I heard, wasn't being paid a penny for his trouble. So bust Bob's balls for keeping the Masters title that should have gone to Rusty Jeffers if you like - but I'd ease up on him about this at least.
4. I think it's time to rename the NOC to "A Night with Lee Priest and Friends". If you agree, you can send your suggestion to Wayne at the PDI's free e-mail address. [snicker...]
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didnt 240 aka rob say that the best pdi guys is better than the top 5 at the MR.O ::)
MONSTER DELUSIONAL :o
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I wish I could get an answer on this. Why?
if you hate bodybuilding then why are you on this site
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if you hate bodybuilding then why are you on this site
I don`t hate bodybuilding. I just hate the current state of stupidity and denial and ignorance of today`s bodybuilding.
I still have hope that it will change one day.
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JACK....THANK YOU
That was not cool.....
Yes I was training sunday and injured my left bicep, I have a partial tear in the tendon, no big deal...but need to rest it for 4-6 weeks.
Let me clear this up....
FIRST about the money....anyone can use the extra money
Second...Jack I was serious about placing 2nd or 3rd, and I was only worried about 3 other competitors, and it was Sami, TJ, and the guy Andre's.
NOT YOU....
Jack....you said i'm your bro, your buddy.....LOL
Also....some of the PDI guys that you talk to, call me and say they think your a JACKASS with your big EGO, but I have defended you and said that you are a cool guy....and that its just a front.
WELL... I WAS WRONG.....LOL
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move over shawn and milos....
brb, getting popcorn ready. :o
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JACK....THANK YOU
That was not cool.....
Yes I was training sunday and injured my left bicep, I have a partial tear in the tendon, no big deal...but need to rest it for 4-6 weeks.
Let me clear this up....
FIRST about the money....anyone can use the extra money
Second...Jack I was serious about placing 2nd or 3rd, and I was only worried about 3 other competitors, and it was Sami, TJ, and the guy Andre's.
NOT YOU....
Jack....you said i'm your bro, your buddy.....LOL
Also....some of the PDI guys that you talk to, call me and say they think your a JACKASS with your big EGO, but I have defended you and said that you are a cool guy....and that its just a front.
WELL... I WAS WRONG.....LOL
vinny the ifbb is calling you
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look at this clown
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JACK....THANK YOU
That was not cool.....
Yes I was training sunday and injured my left bicep, I have a partial tear in the tendon, no big deal...but need to rest it for 4-6 weeks.
Let me clear this up....
FIRST about the money....anyone can use the extra money
Second...Jack I was serious about placing 2nd or 3rd, and I was only worried about 3 other competitors, and it was Sami, TJ, and the guy Andre's.
NOT YOU....
Jack....you said i'm your bro, your buddy.....LOL
Also....some of the PDI guys that you talk to, call me and say they think your a JACKASS with your big EGO, but I have defended you and said that you are a cool guy....and that its just a front.
WELL... I WAS WRONG.....LOL
Yes! A good rivalry is always fun.
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ALSO JACK....WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE SPECULATE, I ASKED YOU NOT TO SAY ANYTHING
IF I'M YOUR BRO....THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED ME ENOUGH TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
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ALSO JACK....WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE SPECULATE, I ASKED YOU NOT TO SAY ANYTHING
IF I'M YOUR BRO....THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED ME ENOUGH TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
why are you angry though?
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ALSO JACK....WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE SPECULATE, I ASKED YOU NOT TO SAY ANYTHING
IF I'M YOUR BRO....THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED ME ENOUGH TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
:o
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why are you angry though?
because I thought I asked a friend to respect my wish.....
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Second...Jack I was serious about placing 2nd or 3rd, and I was only worried about 3 other competitors, and it was Sami, TJ, and the guy Andre's.
NOT YOU....
Is the Sami your referring to the member of team "the game"
if so i agree, he looks like he'll place high, in fact 2nd or 3rd for him is not out of the question. I would say 1st, but priest is competing.
while you are out of the noc, what about the other shows that plan to follow? are you commiting to them? best of luck.
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Because the speculation is that he backed out to go back to the ifbb. I am sorry Vinny, but I have to do this. According to Vinny, he tore is biceps tendon. This is the reason why he is not competing, not because he is doing the usa's or some other show. He e-mailed me yesterday telling me that he can't train for 4-6 weeks so he is out. He also said he had himself in 2nd or 3rd and that he was bummed because he could use the money. He then e-mail me again and asked me to keep it quite and vague, because it is his personal business and wants to keep it private. Why? I am sorry Vinny, but your actions and need explaining, because I for one, will not stand by, and watch everyone gloat. Unless there is another reason that I don't know why you would want to keep it quite???????
if he wanted to keep it quiet you should do that as a friend.
what a ratt ass douchebag!
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240 keeps insisting that PDI is going to be 180 degrees from the IFBB I disagree , you'll have Lee Preist dominating all the PDI atheletes in the same manor Ronnie does in the IFBB nothing changes .
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Is the Sami your referring to the member of team "the game"
if so i agree, he looks like he'll place high, in fact 2nd or 3rd for him is not out of the question. I would say 1st, but priest is competing.
while you are out of the noc, what about the other shows that plan to follow? are you commiting to them? best of luck.
YES....He is a BADASS competitor....
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you'll have Lee Preist dominating all the PDI atheletes in the same manor Ronnie does in the IFBB
At least people will be able to understand Lee when he makes his victory speeches.
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when will you announce you are being dropped by twinlab...before or after you compete in the noc?
No i spoke to Twinlab way before i signed and they didn't have a problem with it.Unlike another company i was talking to how was thinking of signing me but got pressure from you know who not to .Oh what a game the ifbb play pretty funny and childish.I am sure other companies would stepp up if the stupid threats from the IFBB stopped.
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move over shawn and milos....
brb, getting popcorn ready. :o
No, no rivalry. I'm sorry Vinny for that, but I feel with the constant swirl of speculation, without clarification, everyone would think you bailed because you were talked out of it. There is more at stake here than you and your world vinny, and I think you should have wanted to tell everyone why you would not be there. I think it is important that people know. I was not trying to be a dick, just keeping loyal to make sure this thing goes off without a hitch. As far as other PDI guys I talk to.....I only talk to one-TJ and I told him yesterday that I though he was going to beat me, so as far as anyone talking about my big ego...Well I don't know what thats about, Well, unless you count Jimmy Vest, I understand he has said that about me..Thats okay though, I stand by what I did, I am sorry though, if I hurt you, I don't really know how I did, but still sorry if I did.
Nothing more to say.
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No i spoke to Twinlab way before i signed and they didn't have a problem with it.Unlike another company i was talking to how was thinking of signing me but got pressure from you know who not to .Oh what a game the ifbb play pretty funny and childish.I am sure other companies would stepp up if the stupid threats from the IFBB stopped.
You know what Lee, I guess it's you and me man. Ever since I met you back in what 92'?? Seems you and I are the only ones with the guts to stay the course.......
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Next ProBodybuilding Weekly, Chick is going to have a feast!!!
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Next ProBodybuilding Weekly, Chick is going to have a feast!!!
Thats exactly why I broke the news, so that people could not speculate that the ifbb did not sway vinny. My intentions were honarable, but I guess my actions had consequences.
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No, no rivalry. I'm sorry Vinny for that, but I feel with the constant swirl of speculation, without clarification, everyone would think you bailed because you were talked out of it. There is more at stake here than you and your world vinny, and I think you should have wanted to tell everyone why you would not be there. I think it is important that people know. I was not trying to be a dick, just keeping loyal to make sure this thing goes off without a hitch. As far as other PDI guys I talk to.....I only talk to one-TJ and I told him yesterday that I though he was going to beat me, so as far as anyone talking about my big ego...Well I don't know what thats about, Well, unless you count Jimmy Vest, I understand he has said that about me..Thats okay though, I stand by what I did, I am sorry though, if I hurt you, I don't really know how I did, but still sorry if I did.
Nothing more to say.
If Vince dropped out, then its great for him. He can compete and win easily at the Master's Nationals and get a REAL IFBB PRO CARD. Fact is he still has the opportunity to join the ranks where others have basically no chance
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Next ProBodybuilding Weekly, Chick is going to have a feast!!!
Sadly, yes. A big pat on his own back for spearheading the charge to eliminate an entity which would bring more bargaining power to the athletes. Hooray. I'll say it again, because it makes sense...
This is like all the Walmart employees, laughing and dancing in the parking lot as the Target across the street closes. As they walk inside, Walmart mgmt laughs a bit louder.
Why? Well, now Walmart mgmt is now able to lower wages, cut hours, and eliminate benefits. After all, where else can the employees work now? Mgmt no longer has to worry about keeping shoppers happy either, and raises prices. After all, there are no other places in town to shop!
Cashiers will giggle as they work for less. Customers will laugh as they pay more and wait in longer lines to buy from a lower selection. They'll all claim a victory. They'll high-five and thank their Union rep for chasing Target out of town.
Be careful what you wish for.
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If Vince dropped out, then its great for him. He can compete and win easily at the Master's Nationals and get a REAL IFBB PRO CARD. Fact is he still has the opportunity to join the ranks where others have basically no chance
Yes, and whereever he competes I wish him the best, it matters not to me.
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Yes, and whereever he competes I wish him the best, it matters not to me.
It shouldn't Rhino. Bodybuilding is a sport but its also a business. He who garners most crown shalt have have thine finest knights (Whichever organzations shells out the bucks will have the best bodybuilders)
Rhino, I told you that the PDI was a Titanic waiting to happen.....again for the SECOND TIME. Get off the f@#@# boat before you drown. Go compete at the Master Nationals and leave this pathetic organization alone.
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Vinny,
If you asked Jack to keep this info under his hat and he didn't then yes you have every right to be mad.
But if it truly is a bum bicep, why the secrecy? You know how crazy this board gets...why not get it out in the open before all sorts of lies and rumors really start.
You know the trolls on here...it would only be a matter of time before someone supposedly saw you in Aruba with Debbie Kruk or that you were seen having lunch with Chic and Jim Manion
These are only examples but you know what I mean...
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because I thought I asked a friend to respect my wish.....
your def right he is a dick ican;t stand when people can't keep ther emouth shut esp friends or supposed in this case
vinny pm when you get a chance i need atrainer
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your def right he is a dick ican;t stand when people can't keep ther emouth shut esp friends or supposed in this case
vinny pm when you get a chance i need atrainer
why do you need a trainer i thought you bench 500 plus. ::)
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OK, what have we learned from this thread?
1. The PDI is dead in the water.
1a. The competitor's list for the NOC is pathetic and Russian Guy #3 is favored.
2. 240 used a valid economic analogy that Chick for some reason couldn't comprehend.
3. Chick was responsible for all Olympia competitors walking away with at least $4,000 even though they spend $7,000 on contest prep.
4. The IFBB actually only raised the total purse by $6,000 not $66,000.
5. Rhino sold out his friend, a jackass move.
6. 240 took a gayass picture of himself where he doesn't have a shirt on but he's wearing a bulletproof vest and holding a gun and three magazines of ammunition. Perhaps the most ridiculous self portrait I've ever seen. For sheer outrageousness it rivals the gayass G.I. Joe photoshoot Chick did.
7. The PDI is dead.
8. Did I mention the PDI is dead?
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why do you need a trainer i thought you bench 500 plus. ::)
for bodybuilding you pathetic jack ass last i checked no bodybuilding show has a bench press competition in it you fucking moron
i need dieting help i don;t rely on drugs like most competitors
now get off my dick
you talk big for a little man behind a computer
and i use to bench 525 for a sinlge before a partilal tear to my pec now i never go above 365 for reps
stalking just like bast now, but the fac tyou were tearing apart levrone in thread befor ethis, now me kinda makes me honored
i bet you have the shitiest gentics ever and if you even juiced out the ass you couldn't even lokk one tenth as good as kamali
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for bodybuilding you pathetic jack ass last i checked no bodybuilding show has a bench press competition in it you fucking moron
i need dieting help i don;t rely on drugs like most competitors
now get off my dick
you talk big for a little man behind a computer
and i use to bench 525 for a sinlge before a partilal tear to my pec now i never go above 365 for reps
stalking just like bast now, but the fac tyou were tearing apart levrone in thread befor ethis, now me kinda makes me honored
i bet you have the shitiest gentics ever and if you even juiced out the ass you couldn't even lokk one tenth as good as kamali
hahahaha, meltdown.
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for bodybuilding you pathetic jack ass last i checked no bodybuilding show has a bench press competition in it you fucking moron
i need dieting help i don;t rely on drugs like most competitors
now get off my dick
you talk big for a little man behind a computer
and i use to bench 525 for a sinlge before a partilal tear to my pec now i never go above 365 for reps
stalking just like bast now, but the fac tyou were tearing apart levrone in thread befor ethis, now me kinda makes me honored
i bet you have the shitiest gentics ever and if you even juiced out the ass you couldn't even lokk one tenth as good as kamali
You know what's coming don't you?
Sarcasm got you to lose your cool and make a post that could be considered a, how shall I say this?
You just acted like an ice cube on a hot summer day.
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hahahaha, meltdown.
god you jackasses here are all the same when some validates what you were just calling out you scream meltdwon get a life you fuck 9000+posts says it all
now excuse me i am off to the gym unlike your sorry asss and i offered you to come train with me anytime
YEA MELTDOWN the meltdown is the fact you can;t believe i actually did that caus egod forbid some one isstroneger then you i had 2 1/2 time bench whne i was highschool and was natural
bu ti am sure that is ameltdown too and there is no way so quit dreaming you are me and realize youaren't now go kill yourself
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hahahaha, monster post deletions.
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I see someone's been doing some deleting on this thread, about 8 of Sarcasm's and dzulboy's posts have been whacked.
Who's the post deleting Nazi?
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the deletions are coming from someone who wants to stick to the topic...
aka chick rather have the post about Rhino and Vinny bickering than an ole fashion Sarcasm owning
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the deletions are coming from someone who wants to stick to the topic...
aka chick rather have the post about Rhino and Vinny bickering than an ole fashion Sarcasm owning
sarcasm doesn;t own anyone or shit till h eposts a pic or comes and trains with me
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Vinny,
If you asked Jack to keep this info under his hat and he didn't then yes you have every right to be mad.
But if it truly is a bum bicep, why the secrecy? You know how crazy this board gets...why not get it out in the open before all sorts of lies and rumors really start.
You know the trolls on here...it would only be a matter of time before someone supposedly saw you in Aruba with Debbie Kruk or that you were seen having lunch with Chic and Jim Manion
These are only examples but you know what I mean...
I was going to mention it AFTER it was talked through with Wayne....I did sign a contract, and wanted to confirm it with him first that i had an injury that would prevent me from training 100% for the next 4-6 weeks....actually i cant train at all.
I have told a few people besides Jack, and thought he was cool to respect my wishes.....but, HE JUST PROVED THAT YOU CANT CONFIDE IN HIM.
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But if it truly is a bum bicep, why the secrecy? You know how crazy this board gets...why not get it out in the open before all sorts of lies and rumors really start.
Because maybe, just maybe it's NOT truly a bum bicep. MAYBE it is something else.
So now, without further ado, I present to you the TOP FIVE REASONS VINNY IS NOT DOING THE NOC:
1. Vinny lost three teeth playing ice hockey last week and the PDI's Dental Plan doesn't cover injuries from "contact" sports.
2. Vinny received an offer to guest pose at three prominent National-qualifiers at $2500 a pop from NPC promoters if he forgoes the NOC.
3. Manion has assured him that like Chick at the Masters Show, Vinny will receive a "very close look" if he chooses to compete at the NPC Nationals this year and forgo the NOC.
4. He was only competing because he and Rhino had fallen in love, and now that they've split up, the show's off.
5. Rhino promised Vinny a "high-powered" "mid-six figure" job selling "commodities" to "high net worth" individuals at the world's "most prominent" financial "investment bank" if he "fakes" a "biceps injury" and "drops out" so Rhino can "move up" the "placing ladder".
Special "Skeptic Tank" Ed
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bump for lack of pdi bodybuilders
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Get well fast my friend!!
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Am I the only one who thinks this Rhino guy is complete joke?
Yeah he's a big guy but to be able to stand on stage next to likes of Lee Priest and Vinny Galanti is a complete insult to them and everyone else on stage and in the audience.
This PDI shit has got to his head and he needs a dose of reality. Go back and do a local amateur NPC show Rhino; that should bring you back down to size.....
Squatz
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I was going to mention it AFTER it was talked through with Wayne....I did sign a contract, and wanted to confirm it with him first that i had an injury that would prevent me from training 100% for the next 4-6 weeks....actually i cant train at all.
I have told a few people besides Jack, and thought he was cool to respect my wishes.....but, HE JUST PROVED THAT YOU CANT CONFIDE IN HIM.
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Now you are just lying.... you had already told wayne.
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Bottom line is...It wasn't yours to put out there. He asked you to keep it to yourself, and you decided to anyway.
not cool.
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Bottom line is...It wasn't yours to put out there. He asked you to keep it to yourself, and you decided to anyway.
not cool.
And I'm glad you are here to tell me. Why is it that you are always there to discredit anything involving the pdi?
I think everyone should be asking the obvious question." Why did Vinny want to hide it?" " Why is he so mad at me?"
Big deal..... I told everyone he told me he was injured, okay I have ruined his life...gimme a break.
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be careful what you wish for is correct, the law of attraction is quite interesting.
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Am I the only one who thinks this Rhino guy is complete joke?
Yeah he's a big guy but to be able to stand on stage next to likes of Lee Priest and Vinny Galanti is a complete insult to them and everyone else on stage and in the audience.
This PDI shit has got to his head and he needs a dose of reality. Go back and do a local amateur NPC show Rhino; that should bring you back down to size.....
Squatz
No everyone agrees with you, I am a complete joke..........next.
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Why is he so mad at me?
Do you consider Vinny G. to be your friend?
If you do you have no justification for telling everyone something that he confided in you and specifically asked you to keep to yourself. His motivation for keeping it secret isn't relevant.
If you don't consider him a friend then it doesn't matter.
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be careful what you wish for is correct, the law of attraction is quite interesting.
I don't get it?
I certainly don't wish for vinny to be hurt, I like him, even if he is mad at me. Actually, I think he should still compete, but I guess he won't. It's easier to point the finger at me and blame me. Whatever, I stand by my actions, not really that big a deal.
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I just heard someone say that and I wanted to post something :)
I guess you don't know of this universal law tho
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And I'm glad you are here to tell me. Why is it that you are always there to discredit anything involving the pdi?
I think everyone should be asking the obvious question." Why did Vinny want to hide it?" " Why is he so mad at me?"
Big deal..... I told everyone he told me he was injured, okay I have ruined his life...gimme a break.
This isn't about discrediting the PDI...it's about discrediting you as a friend. I don't care why he requested you not to put it out there in public...that's HIS decision, not YOUR'S.
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Vinny,
Just remember, Dorian competed with a Bicep tear and he won the Olympia that year.....
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Now you are just lying.... you had already told wayne.
ass whipe....WAYNE HAS NOT RESPONDED TO ME YET YOU FOOL
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When a friend asks you to keep something private, you keep it private. It doesn't matter what it is. You keep your mouth shut. Period.
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ass whipe....WAYNE HAS NOT RESPONDED TO ME YET YOU FOOL
Who CARES!
You tore a Bicep and Jack told us about it.
Stop your whining. There is no issue here at all.
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I`m also not understanding why this was such a big "secret".
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This isn't about discrediting the PDI...it's about discrediting you as a friend. I don't care why he requested you not to put it out there in public...that's HIS decision, not YOUR'S.
...and with that, Chick just owned the entire PDI. If the PDI has Sean Allen competing at the NOC, then it truly is a piece of shit joke.
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Sadly, the PDI has just been rammed the final nail in its coffin.
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It will be the most fantastic voyage ever!!!
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Do you consider Vinny G. to be your friend?
If you do you have no justification for telling everyone something that he confided in you and specifically asked you to keep to yourself. His motivation for keeping it secret isn't relevant.
If you don't consider him a friend then it doesn't matter.
I have my reasons for releasing this information, and maybe you are right, we are not close enough for me to care about the ramifications. But again, what's the big deal, it's not like I did anything to hurt him...Unless, he really is not hurt......
I don't think you brainiacs are getting it....The people who get it are the ones staying quiet, but again, thanks for asking.
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I have my reasons for releasing this information, and maybe you are right, we are not close enough for me to care about the ramifications. But again, what's the big deal, it's not like I did anything to hurt him...Unless, he really is not hurt......
I don't think you brainiacs are getting it....The people who get it are the ones staying quiet, but again, thanks for asking.
Rhino,
I haven't read this entire thread, so my question is simple. What it the case that Vinny asked you to keep a secret and then you opened your mouth?
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Who CARES!
You tore a Bicep and Jack told us about it.
Stop your whining. There is no issue here at all.
Exactly...EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I have my reasons for releasing this information, and maybe you are right, we are not close enough for me to care about the ramifications. But again, what's the big deal, it's not like I did anything to hurt him...Unless, he really is not hurt......
I don't think you brainiacs are getting it....The people who get it are the ones staying quiet, but again, thanks for asking.
No, jack...it's YOU that aint getting it.
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No, jack...it's YOU that aint getting it.
Thanks for informing me. I'm glad I have you to remind me of what I don't know.
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I have my reasons for releasing this information, and maybe you are right, we are not close enough for me to care about the ramifications. But again, what's the big deal, it's not like I did anything to hurt him...Unless, he really is not hurt......
I don't think you brainiacs are getting it....The people who get it are the ones staying quiet, but again, thanks for asking.
I get it Rhino, it is better to quell the rumours that may exist in ref. to Vinny Dropping out...ie he was lurded by weider. The reason being that now it seems that he was STILL going to compete, thus trumping any Weider/IFBB rumors. All in all making the NOC a show that was still worth going to and if it still is, then you still stand to make good from Guest appreances and whatever else. If Vinny was never a freind freind and you saw that the PDI boat was going to sink under the accusations that he is doing the NPC shows, then you did what was best for Jack London. Like I always say, you both cant stand on the top of the pedestal at the same time. (or something to that effect)
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Jack
yes I informed Wayne of the injury....then informed him of the MRI results and asked him if he needed a report from the MRI center, and or the Doctor....that was 2 full days ago.
I have not heard back from Wayne at all....but in the mean time, I wanted you and TJ and a few others to know BEFORE I talked to Wayne again.
I simply asked you to NOT mention it....but you ignored my request.
Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
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Jack
yes I informed Wayne of the injury....then informed him of the MRI results and asked him if he needed a report from the MRI center, and or the Doctor....that was 2 full days ago.
I have not heard back from Wayne at all....but in the mean time, I wanted you and TJ and a few others to know BEFORE I talked to Wayne again.
I simply asked you to NOT mention it....but you ignored my request.
Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
wow...just WOW
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Jack
yes I informed Wayne of the injury....then informed him of the MRI results and asked him if he needed a report from the MRI center, and or the Doctor....that was 2 full days ago.
I have not heard back from Wayne at all....but in the mean time, I wanted you and TJ and a few others to know BEFORE I talked to Wayne again.
I simply asked you to NOT mention it....but you ignored my request.
Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
Vinny, not only do you not want to be on a stage with this guy, You don't want to be anywhere near him. He's showed his true colors.
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Jack
yes I informed Wayne of the injury....then informed him of the MRI results and asked him if he needed a report from the MRI center, and or the Doctor....that was 2 full days ago.
I have not heard back from Wayne at all....but in the mean time, I wanted you and TJ and a few others to know BEFORE I talked to Wayne again.
I simply asked you to NOT mention it....but you ignored my request.
Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
No, no, no you're simply not getting it according to Rhino.
Apparently Rhino is the only one that can see that betraying the confidence of a friend is not a big deal.
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I think this is the beginning of the end for the PDI. Chick, you son of a bitch, you did it.
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Apparently Rhino is the only one that can see that betraying the confidence of a friend is not a big deal.
Sorry, maybe Im not following you here, but are you, somehow, implying that Rhino is gay?
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:'(
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*I*...have done nothing, nor am I trying to.
I merely point out facts...The PDI will reap what they soe.
I'm all for another organization...have stated so from the start. But, in order for there to be TRUE competition...they would need to be on par with the other federations, so far...that's not been the case.
Don't forget...all this is speculation as the PDI has yet to stage a show.
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*I*...have done nothing, nor am I trying to.
I merely point out facts...The PDI will reap what they soe.
I'm all for another organization...have stated so from the start. But, in order for there to be TRUE competition...they would need to be on par with the other federations, so far...that's not been the case.
Don't forget...all this is speculation as the PDI has yet to stage a show.
Come on *bro*, it's alright, I don't care about the PDI either. Im part of the IFBB myself.
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(Phone Rings.....)
Chick: "Hello, Masters World Champion speaking...how may I help you ?"
Joe W: "Rusty, I thought I was calling Chick?"
Chick: "What the hell!!! , Uncle Joe is that you ?"
Joe W: "Bwaaahhhaaahhhaaaaahhaaa ...just playing, I think I just , well as they say ownered you!"
Chick: " Its actaully called getting Owned Uncle Joe..."
Joe W.: "Dont Down Melt on me Chick!!!"
Chick: "Its actually called a ....How can I help you Joe ??"
Joe W: "Come down to the office, its a celebration. Wayne and his idiot federation are done!! Drinks on the house!"
Chick: "HAHAHAHA, yeah true..Hey uncle Joe can I ask you a question about Walmart and Target?"
Joe W: "Shut your trap already and head down.... Perrine is a two beer queer and you dont want to miss out on the whole drawing on his face when he passes out..."
Chick: "I'll be there faster than you can say 'I told you so!"
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Jack
yes I informed Wayne of the injury....then informed him of the MRI results and asked him if he needed a report from the MRI center, and or the Doctor....that was 2 full days ago.
I have not heard back from Wayne at all....but in the mean time, I wanted you and TJ and a few others to know BEFORE I talked to Wayne again.
I simply asked you to NOT mention it....but you ignored my request.
Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
Now does everyone see????
He gets to go back to the NPC and blame me..........Whatever,
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I have to say this from the pics I saw ,Vinny would destroy Rhino on stage.Rhino do you have any contest pics, because the pics I seen so far on this board are far from impressive.I am a national competitor myself who would get to 290 lbs off season and come in at 258lbs, and I dont think you could beat me on stage, from the looks of your pics.Maybe I am wrong, but lets see some pics were your hard , your delts acturally have seperation, and you dont loook so blocky.I know your a big guy, but from the pics I have seen you have no shape at all.Prove me wrong
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hey chick im going off topic here but will you have your WAR OF THE WORLDS DVD on sale at MR O expo
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Vinny, not only do you not want to be on a stage with this guy, You don't want to be anywhere near him. He's showed his true colors.
Yes perfect, it is all my fault that he won't compete at the NOC. He will go back to the NPC because he is so mad at me......Perfect, just Perfect.
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Chic,
Why not take this to PBW.....You and Dan vs Wayne/Rhino..before NOC, seems like you have the upper hand right now
Cuase you know if the NOC goes on and has a good turnout, there is no way in hell they will be on the show....They'll have the upper hand.
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I have to say this from the pics I saw ,Vinny would destroy Rhino on stage.Rhino do you have any contest pics, because the pics I seen so far on this board are far from impressive.I am a national competitor myself who would get to 290 lbs off season and come in at 258lbs, and I dont think you could beat me on stage, from the looks of your pics.Maybe I am wrong, but lets see some pics were your hard , your delts acturally have seperation, and you dont loook so blocky.I know your a big guy, but from the pics I have seen you have no shape at all.Prove me wrong
One more time I will naswer this, I spent 3 months dealing with this question. Come to the NOC..... I refuse to engage in any banter as My sponsors feel that it is a relflection upon them. I wish you all greatness, including vinny.
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I have to say this from the pics I saw ,Vinny would destroy Rhino on stage.Rhino do you have any contest pics, because the pics I seen so far on this board are far from impressive.I am a national competitor myself who would get to 290 lbs off season and come in at 258lbs, and I dont think you could beat me on stage, from the looks of your pics.Maybe I am wrong, but lets see some pics were your hard , your delts acturally have seperation, and you dont loook so blocky.I know your a big guy, but from the pics I have seen you have no shape at all.Prove me wrong
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Hold on the phone is ringing......oh it's the NPC......GOTTA GO
Now does everyone see????
He gets to go back to the NPC and blame me..........Whatever,
Rhino, it's his decision whatever he's choosing to do, even if that means going back to NPC. The fact that he asked you to keep it quiet and actually trusted you with that info and you decided to go behind his back does not make you look good. Dan
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Re: IFBB Pulls a Tanya Harding: Vince Galati exPDI
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galati......galati...... .Not Taylor.......the closest Vince Galati has gotten to the O stage is working the Expo hall !!!!
RHINO.....RHINO.....RHIN O ....!!!!!!!
Thanks man, I heard you chanting my name all the way in Pa!!!!!
Acording to Vinny, first, he e-mail me to say that the hockey thing was a joke. Then, couple of days later, e-mail me to say he tore his biceps tendon. He claims he can't train for 4-6 weeks and so he is out. He never stated anything about the npc(He is not an ifbb pro) talking him out of it, though I know they have tried in the past. He also asked me to keep it quite and vague as to why he is out, but you guys know me....No friggin way. If you are bailing I think people should know why, if for nothing else to sustain the cred. Of the PDI. Hell, I have a torn hip flexor, and I am training through it... I will be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what credability is that, Jack?
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God I wish I could get on stage at the NOC, Rhino I would punish you on stage.
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Yes perfect, it is all my fault that he won't compete at the NOC. He will go back to the NPC because he is so mad at me......Perfect, just Perfect.
What you did was wrong and if you have to learn that on an internet message board then you've got much bigger problems than the one you just created here.
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Bottom line is...It wasn't yours to put out there. He asked you to keep it to yourself, and you decided to anyway.
not cool.
I never thought I would see the day that i agree with Chick. But Jack I was told in confidence and I knew about Vinny's injury when you and I spoke on Tuesday and I said nothing to you about it.
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maybe he wanted to say pretty much what Chick said...? ;)
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God I wish I could get on stage at the NOC, Rhino I would punish you on stage.
Im pretty sure that they will be giving out like 50 Pro cards in FL, so that wish isnt that hard to grant
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Re: IFBB Pulls a Tanya Harding: Vince Galati exPDI
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Originally Posted by swingslammer
galati......galati...... .Not Taylor.......the closest Vince Galati has gotten to the O stage is working the Expo hall !!!!
RHINO.....RHINO.....RHIN O ....!!!!!!!
Thanks man, I heard you chanting my name all the way in Pa!!!!!
Acording to Vinny, first, he e-mail me to say that the hockey thing was a joke. Then, couple of days later, e-mail me to say he tore his biceps tendon. He claims he can't train for 4-6 weeks and so he is out. He never stated anything about the npc(He is not an ifbb pro) talking him out of it, though I know they have tried in the past. He also asked me to keep it quite and vague as to why he is out, but you guys know me....No friggin way. If you are bailing I think people should know why, if for nothing else to sustain the cred. Of the PDI. Hell, I have a torn hip flexor, and I am training through it... I will be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what credability is that, Jack?
Wow, you got me, I am training hurt!!!!!!!!!!
You caught me, the jig is up!!!!!!
Whatever, try again.
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i got a headache................ .....I'm going to go lay down for awhile
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Im pretty sure that they will be giving out like 50 Pro cards in FL, so that wish isnt that hard to grant
I think the PDI will be handing out pro cards as a door prize for NOC audience members!
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Rhino how the hell, and why the hell did PDI give you a pro card?
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Also, i noticed the disrespectful tone you take when debating a topic.
Men who respect themselves will show respect to their adversaries. Men who respect their position will display professionalism when speaking from this pulpit. The way you speak down to someone who presents an argument (or a challenge) is an indicator of your own insecurities and possible lack of self-worth. Look it up... I'm not making this stuff up. Very likely you feel insecure/threatened and you feel the need to add belittling insults to an otherwise respectful discussion.
One way or another this ass clown has got to go.
The Beef
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Wow, you got me, I am training hurt!!!!!!!!!!
You caught me, the jig is up!!!!!!
Whatever, try again.
The key, Einstein, was the highlighted area...you know, the whole "defending the credibility of the PDI..."?
My question still stands...what credibility are you referring to?
The jig is up allright....
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hahaha You guys are getting mad at Jack for telling the truth that someone is injured.
Big Fucking Deal.
Vinny may have been just fishing for an excuse as to why he won`t be contest ready.
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hahaha You guys are getting mad at Jack for telling the truth that someone is injured.
Big Fucking Deal.
Vinny may have been just fishing for an excuse as to why he won`t be contest ready.
How's that search for a new hairdo coming?
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Today has brought more light to the chain of events in the last few days for me.
I'm thinking to my self...DO I REALY WANT TO BE ON STAGE WITH A GUY LIKE YOU?
If you have a problem with standing on stage with Jack, do you also have a problem with standing on stage with the wife beaters, narcotic dealers and prostitutes that make up the bodybuilding fraternity?
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If you have a problem with standing on stage with Jack, do you also have a problem with standing on stage with the wife beaters, narcotic dealers and prostitutes that make up the bodybuilding fraternity?
Good point, all this is another excuse not to do the NOC. It's now my fault.
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ALSO JACK....WHO CARES WHAT PEOPLE SPECULATE, I ASKED YOU NOT TO SAY ANYTHING
IF I'M YOUR BRO....THEN YOU SHOULD HAVE RESPECTED ME ENOUGH TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.
Vinny, I understand what your saying, it's your business and you didn't want anyone knowing. Ya had to know though that once you told 1 person, another competitor, Wayne, whoever, that it wouldn't be kept quiet. Here you say "who cares what people speculate"....if you wish the PDI to do well (for both competitors and BB) then it would make sense to let people know right away that your not out because your headed back to NPC, but that you simply got injured. If the people that support PDI (BB's and such) think a good quality competitor like yourself backed out to go to the USA or Nats then it would only hurt PDI....Definitely wouldn't help. Good luck healing.
What Jack did definitly aint right, but it's the way of society today...to save themselves they rat. In this case PDI, a group Jack has supported since day 1, was taken a hit...and Jack had to save it. I wouldn't do it, but whatever, I like Jack.
All BB's in NY should support Lee Priest and get a tix for this show....buy a pix, DVD, whatever just to support a guy in his position taken a stand against the current IFBB. Lee Priest...STICK TO YOUR GUNS!!!!
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The key, Einstein, was the highlighted area...you know, the whole "defending the credibility of the PDI..."?
My question still stands...what credibility are you referring to?
The jig is up allright....
still waiting......
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still waiting......
Show 'em no mercy, Bob! Beat 'em and mistreat 'em!
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This thread has a distinctly feminine tone to it: Telling little secrets, gossiping, betraying trust, hissy fits, everyone turning on the betrayer, caddy behavior, more hissy fits....etc, etc, etc.
Has everyone lost their damn nuts today?????
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Damn all hell breaks loose on Getbig overnight.
240 - bro you sound deflated, you're using past tense when referring to anything PDI in this thread. Are you accepting defeat so soon?
Jack - That was a dick move man. Someone tells you something in confidence you don't come on a board and share it. Regardless of your motives, it looks like you're trying to make yourself out to be the PDI hero and give the NPC/IFBB the finger. Not cool. "THE RAT" the competitor formally known as "THE RHINO".
Keith where you at buddy? Afraid you're going to be stuck with a few hundred t-shirts that you'll have to donate to salvation army?
NPC/IFBB puppet OUT
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This thread has a distinctly feminine tone to it: Telling little secrets, gossiping, betraying trust, hissy fits, everyone turning on the betrayer, caddy behavior, more hissy fits....etc, etc, etc.
Has everyone lost their damn nuts today?????
Thanks for articulating what I couldn't quite put my finger on.
Absolutely!
"Nothing but a bunch of slack-jawed fa&&ots around here!"
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Credibility? I dont think the PDI never had any.
1. No official website.
2. An email address for info?
3. All of five guys maybe in the show and now dropping like flies.
4. We all saw that ridiculous promo poster. (oh god)
Hey Lee tell us you're dropping out the show so finally this fiasco can end. Stupid me, I was all for the PDI and still want it to succeed but they're is just no legitimacy.
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Hey Lee tell us you're dropping out the show so finally this fiasco can end.
He says he's still in. Let's check back with him when his plane tickets don't arrive due to a "clerical error".
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240 - bro you sound deflated, you're using past tense when referring to anything PDI in this thread. Are you accepting defeat so soon?
Well, obviously Vinny was a loss to the PDI, which I support because I know the existence of add'l federations means add'l money for competitors, and better shows for fans.
I'm told the PDI is still on, and I think that the group of guys who will compete, including the Euro guys we've never heard of, will be the best "starting lineup" of ANY federation's first show, ever. The fact that people are comparing the PDI to the IFBB means it already has taken a sense of legitimacy. Suppose I started the "Peanut Gallery Federation". Would Bob Chick spend 3 months bashing it on the boards and on the radio? No. The PDI is still a legitimate threat to the IFBB in the longterm, or you wouldn't have IFBB guys spending their valuable time bashing it.
Growing pains. If the PDI doesn't fail, I wonder if the people doing a victory dance will be just as loud?
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Suppose I started the "Peanut Gallery Federation". Would Bob Chick spend 3 months bashing it on the boards and on the radio?
Not on principle. But in your case, he'd probably make an exception. :)
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240's analogy on the Wallmart- Target was right on and applies here. Near My store their is a Brooks Drug. They are right now building a Wallgreen right across the street. Will Brooks, one of the largest chains in the US close. Me thinks not. The store will only get better, cleaner floors, windows, shelves. The attitudes will change for the better and the same goes for the Wallgreens. Competition among retail giants, like bodybuilding federations, will do whatever it takes to try to be or stay at #1. When the PDI gets off the ground and it will, the IFBB can only improve to keep up with the PDI. The workers pay and benefits, which Wallgreens is nationally known to take care of it's associates will force Brooks to improve or else the employees can simply walk across the street. Same goes for the IFBB and the PDI. One will police the other, which is a good thing for all concerned. The day of the monopolies should be over. If you're the only show in town, why change? When the other show is comming in a month, if the big dawg's laying back on it's merits than the little guy has lots of room to improve and draw more and better athletes. Before you dog the PDI, give the upstarts a chance. They will either sink or swim but at least let them jump in the pool.
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Before you dog the PDI, give the upstarts a chance. They will either sink or swim but at least let them jump in the pool.
Agreed. And the fact that the same people who attend and compete in IFBB shows, are the ones bashing the PDI, astounds me. It's a terrific bargaining chip which will improve the IFBB, if nothing else! If you don't like it, don't follow it. But the IFBB prize monies will go up, they'll have to bring up quality of live shows, etc.
PDI = competition = IFBB treats fans and atheltes better.
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Well, obviously Vinny was a loss to the PDI, which I support because I know the existence of add'l federations means add'l money for competitors, and better shows for fans.
I'm told the PDI is still on, and I think that the group of guys who will compete, including the Euro guys we've never heard of, will be the best "starting lineup" of ANY federation's first show, ever. The fact that people are comparing the PDI to the IFBB means it already has taken a sense of legitimacy. Suppose I started the "Peanut Gallery Federation". Would Bob Chick spend 3 months bashing it on the boards and on the radio? No. The PDI is still a legitimate threat to the IFBB in the longterm, or you wouldn't have IFBB guys spending their valuable time bashing it.
Growing pains. If the PDI doesn't fail, I wonder if the people doing a victory dance will be just as loud?
With the way the Olympia was run last year it might be a threat in the short term as well.
Bottom Line is Jack is a RAT snitch to the IFBB
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They will either sink or swim but at least let them jump in the pool.
But there's barely enough water in the pool for the one fat lazy guy who's in there already!
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HA HA!
Rhino is going to single handedly bring down the PDI!
Wayne must rue the day he agreed to let Jack in. As big as Jack's head is, I think he has actually let it get bigger!
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HA HA!
Rhino is going to single handedly bring down the PDI!
Wayne must rue the day he agreed to let Jack in. As big as Jack's head is, I think he has actually let it get bigger!
He might as well concentrate his efforts on the Mr. GetBig....I have to say that OUR show will dwarf the Night of Chumpions....
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Damn all hell breaks loose on Getbig overnight.
240 - bro you sound deflated, you're using past tense when referring to anything PDI in this thread. Are you accepting defeat so soon?
Jack - That was a dick move man. Someone tells you something in confidence you don't come on a board and share it. Regardless of your motives, it looks like you're trying to make yourself out to be the PDI hero and give the NPC/IFBB the finger. Not cool. "THE RAT" the competitor formally known as "THE RHINO".
Keith where you at buddy? Afraid you're going to be stuck with a few hundred t-shirts that you'll have to donate to salvation army?
NPC/IFBB puppet OUT
ahahahahahahahhahahahhah hahahahahhahhhaa ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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This just in....
If Vinny's bicep can heal in time he has been granted a first time ever...Invite to compete in this years "O"...again this is a first, never has a non pro been able to do this.....The IFBB wants to show that they are going to start judging on aesthetics and not monstrosity..
And it comes from a valid source.....
Yeah OK hahahhahah I can only believe that if they asked him to drop out the PDI for an Olympia Spot...Chick this is BS !! YES OR NO
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still waiting for onlyme
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still waiting for onlyme
Keith would smack the yellow off your teeth.
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE OF THIS RHINO CHARACTER ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD? EVERY PIC I HAVE SAW OF HIM HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS NO SYMMETRY ,A BLOCKY STUCTURE, AND WAS BARLEY LEAN, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HARD.iF HE ENTER THE USA OR NATIONALS LOOKING LIKE THAT HE WOULDNT EVEN BREAK THE TOP 15.NOW HE IS A PRO IN THE PDI, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?RHINO YOUR A BIG GUY I WILL GIVE YOU THAT BUT POST A PIC AND PROVE ME WRONG.IF YOU DO AND THE PIC IS IMPRESSIVE I WILL APOLOGISE ABOUT WHAT I SAID ON THIS THREAD
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE OF THIS RHINO CHARACTER ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD? EVERY PIC I HAVE SAW OF HIM HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS NO SYMMETRY ,A BLOCKY STUCTURE, AND WAS BARLEY LEAN, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HARD.iF HE ENTER THE USA OR NATIONALS LOOKING LIKE THAT HE WOULDNT EVEN BREAK THE TOP 15.NOW HE IS A PRO IN THE PDI, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?RHINO YOUR A BIG GUY I WILL GIVE YOU THAT BUT POST A PIC AND PROVE ME WRONG.IF YOU DO AND THE PIC IS IMPRESSIVE I WILL APOLOGISE ABOUT WHAT I SAID ON THIS THREAD
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE OF THIS RHINO CHARACTER ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD? EVERY PIC I HAVE SAW OF HIM HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS NO SYMMETRY ,A BLOCKY STUCTURE, AND WAS BARLEY LEAN, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HARD.iF HE ENTER THE USA OR NATIONALS LOOKING LIKE THAT HE WOULDNT EVEN BREAK THE TOP 15.NOW HE IS A PRO IN THE PDI, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?RHINO YOUR A BIG GUY I WILL GIVE YOU THAT BUT POST A PIC AND PROVE ME WRONG.IF YOU DO AND THE PIC IS IMPRESSIVE I WILL APOLOGISE ABOUT WHAT I SAID ON THIS THREAD
no offense dude but Rhino looks way better than you.
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Keith would smack the yellow off your teeth.
I know this fat piece of shit aint talking
sarcasm stats:
230lb
25% bf
17 inch arms juice to the grills
gay as hell
has a shitty place to live
your not even in my league you stupid cock sucker
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no offense dude but Rhino looks way better than you.
and we would actually take your word for it ::)
fuckin pussy
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NOT FROM THE PICS i SAW SO FAR SARCASM, IN MY PICS I WAS HARD AND CONDITIONED
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I know this fat piece of shit aint talking
sarcasm stats:
230lb
25% bf
17 inch arms juice to the grills
gay as hell
has a shitty place to live
your not even in my league you stupid cock sucker
meltdown, hahahaha, you love me, "brutha", let's go share a piece of watermelon, whaddya say?
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IN MY PICS I WAS HARD FOR SARCASM
:o
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DOES ANYBODY HAVE OF THIS RHINO CHARACTER ACTUALLY LOOKING GOOD? EVERY PIC I HAVE SAW OF HIM HE LOOKS LIKE HE HAS NO SYMMETRY ,A BLOCKY STUCTURE, AND WAS BARLEY LEAN, NOT EVEN CLOSE TO HARD.iF HE ENTER THE USA OR NATIONALS LOOKING LIKE THAT HE WOULDNT EVEN BREAK THE TOP 15.NOW HE IS A PRO IN THE PDI, HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?RHINO YOUR A BIG GUY I WILL GIVE YOU THAT BUT POST A PIC AND PROVE ME WRONG.IF YOU DO AND THE PIC IS IMPRESSIVE I WILL APOLOGISE ABOUT WHAT I SAID ON THIS THREAD
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NOT FROM THE PICS i SAW SO FAR SARCASM, IN MY PICS I WAS HARD AND CONDITIONED
so is Rhino.
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don't steal my pics..bitch
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Monster cardboard girlfriend.
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Monster cardboard girlfriend.
;)
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meltdown, hahahaha, you love me, "brutha", let's go share a piece of watermelon, whaddya say?
nice defense, saying meltdown when i state the facts ::)
ps. guess its time for you to run to the y board and make a thread of how you made me meltdown ::)
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Sorry Mike....
Feel free to post mine if you want...
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nice defense, saying meltdown when i state the facts ::)
ps. guess its time for you to run to the y board and make a thread of how you made me meltdown ::)
so i guess it's no on the watermelon, how about some Colt .45 and some fried chicken?
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Sarcasm is getting owned all over the place. He won't last a month.
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I DO ADMIT RHINO DOES LOOK 10 TIMES BETTER IN THOSE PICS THEN THE PICS i HAVE SAW IN THE PAST.i STILL DONT THINK HE IS A PRO LEVEL ATHLETE .HIS LEGS HAVE A GREAT SWEEP, BUT HE STILL ISNT "DRY" OR HARD .I THINK IF HE DID THE USA OR NATIONALS HE PROBABLY WOULD BARELY BREAK TOP 10 .YOU HAVE TO REMEBER THOSE AFRICAN SUPERHEAVIES HAVE SAMLL WAISTES, ROUND MUSCLE BELLIES, AND COME IN SHREDDED
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Whats the bigdeal? Vinny was never gonna go the PDI route, remember several months ago when S.Ray called Vinny on it? .. You can guarantee thats when the real "negotiations" started, now talk of Vinny doin the "O".. The facts are Vinny sold out to the HIGHEST bidder (his life, and he is entitled to look after # 1).
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back to the subject at hand, why would Vinny or Rhino do this show, they won't place 1st because of Priest and there's a bunch of great new guys like Sami and Frey in the mix, there's too much for them to lose and they are both near 40.
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Getitony
Jack is actually doing a shoot for Musclemag this weekend so I guess we'll see in 2 months how he looks. He has stated that he will try to get proofs to show his progress...
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I DO ADMIT RHINO DOES LOOK 10 TIMES BETTER IN THOSE PICS THEN THE PICS i HAVE SAW IN THE PAST.i STILL DONT THINK HE IS A PRO LEVEL ATHLETE .HIS LEGS HAVE A GREAT SWEEP, BUT HE STILL ISNT "DRY" OR HARD .I THINK IF HE DID THE USA OR NATIONALS HE PROBABLY WOULD BARELY BREAK TOP 10 .YOU HAVE TO REMEBER THOSE AFRICAN SUPERHEAVIES HAVE SAMLL WAISTES, ROUND MUSCLE BELLIES, AND COME IN SHREDDED
Thanks for the props, and I think you are right, national level npc shows are tough, really tough.
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Sarcasm is getting owned all over the place. He won't last a month.
Well, he's lasted 11 months so far. [At 27+ posts a day, sheesh!] I'm sure he's been owned plenty in that time. :)
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Rhino I really wish the best of luck to you.I know what its like being a genetically big white guy going up against small boned , round muscle bellied ,and tiny waisted african American athletes.The guys can have literally a 18" arm but because of there small bones, and round muscle bellies it looks like its 21".Rhino just make sure your delts are really round, your quad sweep is out, and your lats are strong, then you can out size them.Rhino you are a very big man, you just got to use your mass to your potential .Make sure you come is hard and dry, dont worry about the scale, your big enough.A little tip 10 days out get some cytodren that is an anti-catabolic, that will help dry you out.But you have to be careful because if you use to much it can flatten you out .Goood luck brother
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Vinny,
Sorry to hear about your injury dude... how bad is the bruising (I tore a calf once and the bruising was crazy!)... any chance of posting a pic?
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But, you can keep on high-fiving and celebrating the fact that most pro Bbers are going to stay poor...
Maybe that's it though. A lot of people here seem to hate pro bodybuilders with a passion. Or am I giving the denizens of Getbig too much credit for figuring out that an IFBB monoploy will continue to hurt bodybuilders as it always has?
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Rhino I really wish the best of luck to you.I know what its like being a genetically big white guy going up against small boned , round muscle bellied ,and tiny waisted african American athletes.The guys can have literally a 18" arm but because of there small bones, and round muscle bellies it looks like its 21".Rhino just make sure your delts are really round, your quad sweep is out, and your lats are strong, then you can out size them.Rhino you are a very big man, you just got to use your mass to your potential .Make sure you come is hard and dry, dont worry about the scale, your big enough.A little tip 10 days out get some cytodren that is an anti-catabolic, that will help dry you out.But you have to be careful because if you use to much it can flatten you out .Goood luck brother
Thanks bro. Great advice, in fact exactly what I have planned!! Anyway, I am going to do the best I can, with what I have!!!!!
I can't do much more than that!
I apreciate the words. really...
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You can't beat "The Man"
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Rhino,
I never thought I'd say this, but you got tremendously outclassed and outsmarted today by Chic. Do yourself a favor and log off the forum now. Go on, turn off the computer, down a few sleeping pills and hope that by tomorrow morning you still have anything going for yourself. Your sponsors might very well pull any and all contracts you might have after this stunt. Quickly, throw away all the Test vials, Dbol pills and Esiclene garbage you might have, 'cause at this point, you might as well pick up a new job as a garbage man, cause your full of shit.
YOU GOT OWNED AND THE ONLY WAY TO REDEEM YOURSELF IS BY PUBLICLY OFFERING ALL OF US BLOWJOBS
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that or letting me take nude pics of you for a few bucks..
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Okay, so let's sum up today's events:
1. Vinny was allegedly hurt in a hockey match.
2. Bo found out that Hope was still alive.
3. Vinny announced he was out of the NOC.
4. Roman declared his love for Jennifer.
5. Vinny said he was just joking.
6. Frankie raped the maid, then found out it was his mother.
7. Vinny was allegedly hurt working out.
8. Patch came back only to find out that Kayla had remarried, thinking he was dead.
9. Vinny told Jack a secret with the ominous warning, "Cross your fingers, hope to die"
10. Victor tortured Jon Black for disclosing his finances.
11. Jack betrayed Vinny by telling everyone about the phantom injury.
12. Bo saved Patch from a drive-by fruiting.
13. Vinny announced he was out of the NOC.
14. Dr. DeMilia reviewed the MRIs and in his medical opinion found nothing wrong.
15. Jack pleaded his case to the people.
16. Vinny and Jack nearly came to blows.
17. Jennifer came between them and was knocked the fucck out.
18. Frankie declared his love for Jennifer.
19. Vinny turned his back on his blood brother Jack.
20. Jack wished Vinny well.
21. Hope realized that Roman was Jon Black's brother.
22. Jack Black hosted the MTV Awards.
23. Jack London hosted the PDI Awards.
24. Jon Black hosted the Daytime Emmy Awards.
25. Bob and Victor agreed to monopolize all of Salem.
26. Dr. DeMilia secretly plotted the destruction of Salem with a masked friend.
27. Vinny announced that a mysterious Uncle Jim would be arriving in Salem.
28. Jack spilled his guts and confessed to the hip injury.
29. Frankie was arrested by Abe and thrown in jail with his old training partner Craig.
30. Lance Bass of NSYNC announced he was gay but still competing in the NOC.
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the Days of Our Lives.
Cue Music.
Special "Bye Bye Bye" Ed
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Who is still competing in the NOC? Jack? BigAnt?
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Damn Jack....look what you did......we are at page 11 and only 8 hours into the post....LOL
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Some of the biggest guys you will ever see, and they act like a bunch of women. This is getting ridiculous. Whether or not Jack was asked to keep quiet about an injury is a moot point by now. If the pros on here want to be seen as a bunch of Barbie Queens, well done.
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well i didnt see it anywhere else in the 11 pages of postings. Vinny heres to a speedy recovery. Tears are never good, but youl bounce back.
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rhino is taking a beating
time to delete your account now
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and we would actually take your word for it ::)
fuckin pussy
sarge dick, i have a feeling you are gimmic too. your post have that indirect gay impression to them. Dude for the last time I am not like you and I DO NOT like guys. Post a pic you fat piece blob. Are you even out of your teens. You are a punk in hiding. You are what most of us call the "red-headed step child" You grew up getting your ass kick everyday and now that mom has bought you a computer you are an immediate badass. That also translates into pussy. How sad it must being you. But keep the posts coming you are defintiely comic relief
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Sarcasm is getting owned all over the place. He won't last a month.
funny part is he doesn;t even realize it MELTDOWNNNNNNNNNN FOR SARCASM
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Jack and Vinny need to dscuss this like grown men over a rootie tootie fresh and fruity breakfast IHOP....
Alexx is buying
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sarge dick, i have a feeling you are gimmic too. your post have that indirect gay impression to them. Dude for the last time I am not like you and I DO NOT like guys. Post a pic you fat piece blob. Are you even out of your teens. You are a punk in hiding. You are what most of us call the "red-headed step child" You grew up getting your ass kick everyday and now that mom has bought you a computer you are an immediate badass. That also translates into pussy. How sad it must being you. But keep the posts coming you are defintiely comic relief
"fat piece blob"?
have you seen yourself lately, you fat piece of shit
you are ova 400 lbs with 30 % bf
look in the mirror
Im ready to dump a clip in this stupid f**k onlyme
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"fat piece blob"?
have you seen yourself lately, you fat piece of shit
you are ova 400 lbs with 30 % bf
look in the mirror
Im ready to dump a clip in this stupid f**k onlyme
m e lt down , at ease solider
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m e lt down , at ease solider
yeah okay meltdown ::)
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Jack and Vinny need to dscuss this like grown men over a rootie tootie fresh and fruity breakfast IHOP....
Alexx is buying
change ur avatar back to what it was..................... ....that is all
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Re: IFBB Pulls a Tanya Harding: Vince Galati exPDI
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Originally Posted by swingslammer
galati......galati...... .Not Taylor.......the closest Vince Galati has gotten to the O stage is working the Expo hall !!!!
RHINO.....RHINO.....RHIN O ....!!!!!!!
Thanks man, I heard you chanting my name all the way in Pa!!!!!
Acording to Vinny, first, he e-mail me to say that the hockey thing was a joke. Then, couple of days later, e-mail me to say he tore his biceps tendon. He claims he can't train for 4-6 weeks and so he is out. He never stated anything about the npc(He is not an ifbb pro) talking him out of it, though I know they have tried in the past. He also asked me to keep it quite and vague as to why he is out, but you guys know me....No friggin way. If you are bailing I think people should know why, if for nothing else to sustain the cred. Of the PDI. Hell, I have a torn hip flexor, and I am training through it... I will be there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what credability is that, Jack?
MAN! Back from a full day of working out, business, etc....and STILL no response fom 'ol Jack.
Guess the silence say's it all....
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MAN! Back from a full day of working out, business, etc....and STILL no response fom 'ol Jack.
Guess the silence say's it all....
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MAN! Back from a full day of working out, business, etc....and STILL no response fom 'ol Jack.
Guess the silence say's it all....
Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.
I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:
1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.
Finally, Bob, it's a startup! Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream? It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it! It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely! It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.
Bob, it's a brand new gig!!! They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option. No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it. No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.
Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now. They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet! You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!
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Holy shit are you delusional!
Go back to playing cops and robbers in your neat little vest and gun...
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Holy shit are you delusional!
Go back to playing cops and robbers in your neat little vest and gun...
LOL... then argue my points, Bob. I think they present a pretty good argument for the PDI being in very good shape for a startup with zero history!
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Holy shit are you delusional!
Go back to playing cops and robbers in your neat little vest and gun...
;D
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Holy shit are you delusional!
Go back to playing cops and robbers in your neat little vest and gun...
LMAO ;D ;D ;D
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The noc will probably go on with it's current lineup,it's new and will draw some interest.difference is ifbb has more competitor's and higher quality too ,so if a few big names dropped off it would still have enough big names too draw from,pdi dosen't have that yet ???
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Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.
I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:
1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.
Finally, Bob, it's a startup! Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream? It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it! It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely! It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.
Bob, it's a brand new gig!!! They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option. No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it. No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.
Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now. They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet! You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!
All kidding, insults, and past battles aside - the thought of a startup having this much going for it - before ever having its first show - you gotta admit it's a tad impressive. I know many of us would like to see it topple the Olympia on the night of show one. But that won't happen. And that's okay.
The PDI has a good start. You had flipflopper Vince Taylor change his mind (the same vince that accused the IFBB masters judges of some terrible things, I believe). You had Vinny Galanti - a man with awesome shape - get hurt. Stuff happens. But you have Lee, the most popular Bber not named Coleman, and you have a lot of good guys battling for #2. You don't know what the top 5 will look like. You don't know who the top 10 will be.
Bottom line is, Bob, why do you spend so much time dissing something that is so fledgling, so new, and just getting off the ground? I know you said last night "I've never said anything bad about the PDI", but everyone sees you "calling it like you see it" by insulting quality of athletes, questioning prize money, badmouthing wayne, etc.
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No problem..I'll take "0 credibility" for $1,000, Alex...
Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.
I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:
1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.
Finally, Bob, it's a startup! Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream? It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it! It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely! It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.
Bob, it's a brand new gig!!! They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option. No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it. No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.
Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now. They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet! You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!
1. Nothing to substanciate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city USA
2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicative of the interest level from other Pro's...
3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...
4.Fyers/ postcards...great. We've all seen them.
5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is a household name also.
6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?
People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousands of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.
Still not a judge named, an official named (other than Wayne), sponsors named, zero accounting of any quest posing/ PDI athletes, European promoters verifying they have nothing to do with these alleged shows, two "qualifiers" already canceled, James Goad named as one of the PDI promoters despite stiffing then IFBB guys in his only show, 2 previous attempts to start this new federation failed to even get this far......
Nice try, though....
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Still not a judge named, an official named (other than Wayne), sponsors named, zero accounting of any quest posings/ PDI athletes, European promoters verifying they have nothing to do with these alleged shows, two "qualifiers" already canceled, James Goad named as one of the PDI promoters despite stiffing then IFBB guys in his only show, 2 pevious attempts to start this new federation failed to even get this far......
Those qualifiers weren't cancelled! They were rescheduled!
Rescheduled!!! :'(
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1. Nothing to substanciate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city usa
You don't think Wayne DeMilia can sell 1500 tix to a pro show in NY? What planet are you on?
2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicitive of the interest level from other Pro's...
Wait, one top IFBB pro, who has been around the block, willing to put all his eggs into the PDI basket, before a single show- that's pathetic? Lee's been a pro a lot longer than you have Bob. Maybe his experience and knowledge of pro BBing and politics are greater than yours, we don't know. There ARE other pros interested, Bob. THEY JUST DON'T TELL YOU! I don't get this. I speak to guys and they ask me what I know, who is going, who is rumored, etc... and everyone knows the Dexster was going til he got a promise that Christmas was coming in October ;) ;)
3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...
Have you seen TJ or Sami lately? Shit, Bob, they are taking it to a higher level without weight classes! The guys are 10% less than IFBB pros, sure. but their waists are 10% smaller too.
5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is aa householsd name also.
And when Andrea yates writes her book, she will earn a $5M signing bonus. This is a fact. If the PDI had no chance, we all woudl have talked about it for a week and dropped it. It's been 6 months now and it's still the top topic.
6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?
LMAO... Wayne ran more shows than anyone else ever did, Bob. Wayne made the O a spectacular event. You guys can't even get a hotel with microwaves.
People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousanda of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.
Ah, Bob. You see it as a train wreck because you are a blueblood IFBB lifer. You schmooze with them, you blindly support them, and you are not trusted by your peers.
Know this, Bob.
They. Do. not. Trust. You.
There are thousands of people, who you call the peanut gallery, who are very interested to see what kinda cool scoreboard and stageshow the PDI puts on. Will Lee get trumped by a very good Sami with a better posing routine? it's 20% of the score. Judging reform. we like that. Aesthetics. Can't wait. Get the pulse of the ppl - many here, and on many other boards, are very excited to see an alternative to a 9th Coleman win!
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By the way Bob, all insults and jabs aside, you are fun to debate these topics with. A nice mental exercise, the issues are really explored, and it really does make people think about the issues on a higher level. So I hope there are no hard feelings about these debates. I am having some fun with it, I hope you are too!
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MONSTER talk with Wayne to concoct your response.
#6 - 240, Bob nailed you on. You and onlyme need to have a conference call with Wayne, so you're all on the same page when you state your claims.
Chic, you're really sounding like a guy who likes to rub stuff in people's faces.
I can say that the PDI has credibility for the following reasons:
1) Hall booked and nearly sold out.
2) One tier 1 IFBB guy has jumped already, despite threats from IFBB.
3) Ten very very good athletes from around the world are competing this Sept 16th.
4) Flyers, postcards, etc being sent to both US and Eur potential customers
5) People are talking about it - the PDI is a household name in BBing fans minds already.
6) Wayne ran the IFBB pretty well for 20 years.
Finally, Bob, it's a startup! Were you shitting on Bill gates' porch in 1975 when he founded Microsoft with some second hand version of DOS and a dream? It hasn't had its first show, and already there are tens of thousands of BBing fans talking about it! It's before the first show and already, EVERy top NPC and every IFBB guy is following it closely! It hasn't had its first show, and already you have a very popular IFBB pro and some very talented Euro guys signed up.
Bob, it's a brand new gig!!! They haven't had show one, haven't spend much money, and already, most IFBB guys (secretly!) consider it a potentially viable option. No show yet, and thousands of fans are following it. No show yet, and you spend hours trashing it.
Holy shit, if I'm wayne, I'm laughing my ass off right now. They've got the IFBB's face, Bob chic, spending his evenings frantically arguing with strangers on message boards about something that hasn't even started yet! You might as well be on Wayne's payroll, Chic!
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1. Nothing to substantiate the claim of being "almost sold out", more likely comp-city USA
You don't think Wayne DeMilia can sell 1500 tix to a pro show in NY? What planet are you on?
2.One top name guy is pathetic, and indicative of the interest level from other Pro's...
Wait, one top IFBB pro, who has been around the block, willing to put all his eggs into the PDI basket, before a single show- that's pathetic? Lee's been a pro a lot longer than you have Bob. Maybe his experience and knowledge of pro BBing and politics are greater than yours, we don't know. There ARE other pros interested, Bob. THEY JUST DON'T TELL YOU! I don't get this. I speak to guys and they ask me what I know, who is going, who is rumored, etc... and everyone knows the Dexster was going til he got a promise that Christmas was coming in October ;) ;)
3.10 "very good athletes?"...a few at best, a few less this week, and a few amateurs that couldn't even QUALIFY for the NPC nationals/ USA...
Have you seen TJ or Sami lately? Shit, Bob, they are taking it to a higher level without weight classes! The guys are 10% less than IFBB pros, sure. but their waists are 10% smaller too.
5.It's a household name allright, and not in a flattering way...Andrea Yates is aa households name also.
And when Andrea Yates writes her book, she will earn a $5M signing bonus. This is a fact. If the PDI had no chance, we all woudl have talked about it for a week and dropped it. It's been 6 months now and it's still the top topic.
6.According to the PDI supporters...BEN ran the IFBB, Wayne was only doing what he was told, right?
LMAO... Wayne ran more shows than anyone else ever did, Bob. Wayne made the O a spectacular event. You guys can't even get a hotel with microwaves.
People have always had a morbid sense of curiosity...no different than slowing down to see a trainwreck up ahead...tens of thousanda of BB fans are talking about it, not in a good way.
Ah, Bob. You see it as a train wreck because you are a blueblood IFBB lifer. You schmooze with them, you blindly support them, and you are not trusted by your peers.
Know this, Bob.
They. Do. not. Trust. You.
There are thousands of people, who you call the peanut gallery, who are very interested to see what kinda cool scoreboard and stageshow the PDI puts on. Will Lee get trumped by a very good Sami with a better posing routine? it's 20% of the score. Judging reform. we like that. Aesthetics. Can't wait. Get the pulse of the ppl - many here, and on many other boards, are very excited to see an alternative to a 9th Coleman win!
1. No, I don't think Wayne can SELL 1500+ with that line-up...apparently, neither do the sponsors )or lack thereof)
2. If there are so many guys interested...WHERE ARE THEY? My point was that 1 guy signed is pathetic, not that Lee is...there's no disputing lee's accomplishments, too bad he'll be wasting them beating a bunch of amateurs.
3.What "higher level" is that? If you can't turn pro against the best amateurs...?
4.Wayne also gave the athletes placing below 10th ZERO dollars, thought they didn't deserve it...allegedly, the same guys YOUR fighting for
5. Wayne also put on the last NOC...you remember, the one with the Denise masino S&M, Kenny Jones/ child molestation parody which was booed off the stage?
6. Posing actually represents 40% of the scoring in the PDI....may the best poser win, forget about physiques.
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MONSTER talk with Wayne to concoct your response.
#6 - 240, Bob nailed you on. You and onlyme need to have a conference call with Wayne, so you're all on the same page when you state your claims.
Honestly, no, no conference call and I never claimed to have great knowledge of how Wayne ran things. If it sucked, I don't know why he lasted, that's all I can really bring to that. If he worked for almost 2 decades, then he either did a decent job, or they are the most ineffective owners in the history of the universe, to allow a person to run a multi-million dollar enterprise for 20 years, even though he was incompetent.
My guess? Wayne did a good enough job running shows for them to make their money, or they would have replaced him. That is how things work, right? I love the way everyone disses him, but he worked there fore just so long, it's hard to believe he was incompetent. Maybe he left some bridges burning, I have no clue! But to question his ability to run a few shows, that's just silliness :)
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Honestly, no, no conference call and I never claimed to have great knowledge of how Wayne ran things. If it sucked, I don't know why he lasted, that's all I can really bring to that. If he worked for almost 2 decades, then he either did a decent job, or they are the most ineffective owners in the history of the universe, to allow a person to run a multi-million dollar enterprise for 20 years, even though he was incompetent.
My guess? Wayne did a good enough job running shows for them to make their money, or they would have replaced him. That is how things work, right? I love the way everyone disses him, but he worked there fore just so long, it's hard to believe he was incompetent. Maybe he left some bridges burning, I have no clue! But to question his ability to run a few shows, that's just silliness :)
Wayne can promote, just not bodybuilding on his own, in my opinion. He's not a stupid guy by any means, but he should put the grudge aside and move on. I was at the Gracie Fighting Championships he helped promote at the ASC, it had more people there then at any bodybuilding show. He should stick to promoting fights and not bodybuilding.
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LOL
brilliant
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"fat piece blob"?
have you seen yourself lately, you fat piece of shit
you are ova 400 lbs with 30 % bf
look in the mirror
Im ready to dump a clip in this stupid f**k onlyme
haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun. See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass. Another wannabe. Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately. Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up. This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth. No picture, no name just a gay monicker. Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer. srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.
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haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun. See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass. Another wannabe. Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately. Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up. This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth. No picture, no name just a gay monicker. Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer. srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.
easy there, Keith
you know the rest of us love ya
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haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun. See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass. Another wannabe. Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately. Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up. This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth. No picture, no name just a gay monicker. Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer. srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.
Keith sounds like you need a big ol' Shawn Ray Super Sized Hug.
;)
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Keith sounds like you need a big ol' Shawn Ray Super Sized Hug.
;)
Shawn gave Keith a hug once... but he was really just closing in to replace Keith's wallet with a Hawaii hotel bill ;)
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Again the problem with the IFBB is the monopoly the Weider's have made it to be. They suck all the money for themselves leaving it hindered and barely able to survive.
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Xtreme Challenge Sports & Fitness Expo
August 11 & 12, 2006
University of Central Florida
Orlando Florida
http://www.xtreme-usa.com/orlando/prodivision.htm (http://www.xtreme-usa.com/orlando/prodivision.htm)
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According to the website nothing has changed. Rob there is still time for you to enter those guns of yous! ;)
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According to the website nothing has changed.
We held it and didn't invite you ;D
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We held it and didn't invite you ;D
Must be some sort of crazy PDI time warp machine. Who qualified and did they drop out of the NOC yet?
;D
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Must be some sort of crazy PDI time warp machine. Who qualified and did they drop out of the NOC yet?
;D
The problem is, the invitation contained a small economics puzzle, requiring basic understanding of monopoly/free market competition concepts on a 7th grade level.
Many are still decoding it.
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easy there, Keith
you know the rest of us love ya
Jeez all of a sudden I got three stalkers. I am too busy to mess with anyone else. Its fun but my hands are getting tired from typing
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Well, one person does not make a Contest so hopefully Vinny will recover and compete next year...........if there is a next year! ::)
Let the games begin! ;D
Who's left to compete in the show, anyone got a list of the competition?
FUCK OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.
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f**k OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.
hahhaha oh brother , Melt...meet Down ...
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f**k OFF, YOUR A DEA INFORMANT NONE OF US LIKE YOU, OR RESPECT YOU ANYMORE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOUR OPINION COUNTS FOR NOTHING.
Don't hold anything back - tell him how you REALLY feel... ;D
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haha asswipe the only way you could even close to hurting me is with a gun. See pussys use guns, hence your a pussy. I have no problem saying that to the top of your head as I look down on your short skinny ass. Another wannabe. Man Ron, this place is attracting a bunch of no names dipshits lately. Allot of mouths with absolutely nothing to back it up. This gay guy talks allot of shit that comes directly out of his mouth. No picture, no name just a gay monicker. Man, I really didn't know their were so many idiots out there like this queer. srg stand down and give me 20 okay 5 since you can't do 20.
"short skinny ass"
6'2 245 is short and skinny?
Nobody is stalking you? Who are you? I see you like to crack jokes on alexx but dude you ain't even in my league.
That spider fuck up your way of thinking. I wasn't going to say anything to you but seen you constantly bashing pro or non pro bodybuilders on here all the time.If you don't like bodybuilding then why do you bring your fat ass on here. I been doing this shit for 20 years u fat fuck. Its funny how you are losing in an argument and all you can do is call somebody gay. Go back to armwrestling or whatever the fuck you do, or doing your little commercials. I see you can give any fat little nerd a computer and they come on a message board like they are running things.I don't have to post my pic or put my info out in here. Why should I? You ain't even worth my time, but I did enjoy your movie
"99 ways for a fuck pig to out run a spider"
PS. Next time I visit my son at University of Hawaii at Manoa, come up to my face and tell me how you feel. Don't worry i will leave the guns at home. The few sharks in Hawaii are going to have a feast when i throw your heavy ass in the water. Keep it up tubby, and the ppl here on getbig wont be seeing you post anymore.
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sarcasm or whoever, post meltdown I dont care
this punk guy is going to get it
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"short skinny ass"
6'2 245 is short and skinny?
Nobody is stalking you? Who are you? I see you like to crack jokes on alexx but dude you ain't even in my league.
That spider f**k up your way of thinking. I wasn't going to say anything to you but seen you constantly bashing pro or non pro bodybuilders on here all the time.If you don't like bodybuilding then why do you bring your fat ass on here. I been doing this shit for 20 years u fat f**k. Its funny how you are losing in an argument and all you can do is call somebody gay. Go back to armwrestling or whatever the f**k you do, or doing your little commercials. I see you can give any fat little nerd a computer and they come on a message board like they are running things.I don't have to post my pic or put my info out in here. Why should I? You ain't even worth my time, but I did enjoy your movie
"99 ways for a f**k pig to out run a spider"
PS. Next time I visit my son at University of Hawaii at Manoa, come up to my face and tell me how you feel. Don't worry i will leave the guns at home. The few sharks in Hawaii are going to have a feast when i throw your heavy ass in the water. Keep it up tubby, and the ppl here on getbig wont be seeing you post anymore.
When you want to make arrangements to meet someone from the boards to 'punk' them out... well that only means one thing..
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When you want to make arrangements to meet someone from the boards to 'punk' them out... well that only means one thing..
yeah whatever little man
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The problem is, the invitation contained a small economics puzzle, requiring basic understanding of monopoly/free market competition concepts on a 7th grade level.
Many are still decoding it.
240 your economics lesson is right on, but its not that these guys aren't getting it, its that they are having too much fun watching or hoping for the PDI's demise. The bottom line is that the guys on this board are so far removed from any benefit of a new federation that they would rather just enjoy a train wreck than think through the consequences. And however illogical as it is, the PDI is taking the brunt of their anomosity towards bodybuilders. Its like a crowd of people shouting around a building "Jump" to a would be suicider. They might not be all bad people but they just don't care about someone they don't know and in no way would ever benefit from. Their anomosity and apathy gets the best of them, at the expense of some innocent guy. On September 11th a lot of the disenfranchised population of NY were excited and even cheered when the buildings collapsed, believe or not but they did. It was like a movie to many of them, They were so far removed from the rich people in the WTC they really didn't care if it collapsed or not and in some ways were happy about it. In that moment it was far more exciting to see the disaster happen to people they didn't really know or care about. It served them no benefit to feel anguish or sadness, whether the people suffered or not really didn't matter, their lives would not change one bit. Why not enjoy the train wreck.
THis "Jump" mentality reveals the deep seeded resentment of fans towards the bb industry. Maybe the current bb Industry cultivated it but why take it out on the PDI.
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240 your economics lesson is right on, but its not that these guys aren't getting it, its that they are having too much fun watching or hoping for the PDI's demise. The bottom line is that the guys on this board are so far removed from any benefit of a new federation that they would rather just enjoy a train wreck than think through the consequences. And however illogical as it is, the PDI is taking the brunt of their anomosity towards bodybuilders. Its like a crowd of people shouting around a building "Jump" to a would be suicider. They might not be all bad people but they just don't care about someone they don't know and in no way would ever benefit from. Their anomosity and apathy gets the best of them, at the expense of some innocent guy. On September 11th a lot of the disenfranchised population of NY were excited and even cheered when the buildings collapsed, believe or not but they did. It was like a movie to many of them, They were so far removed from the rich people in the WTC they really didn't care if it collapsed or not and in some ways were happy about it. In that moment it was far more exciting to see the disaster happen to people they didn't really know or care about. It served them no benefit to feel anguish or sadness, whether the people suffered or not really didn't matter, their lives would not change one bit. Why not enjoy the train wreck.
Your analogy is specious, sir.
Someone threatening to jump from a building is a fellow human being in a pitiable state of insanity or despair. Hence the gloating bystanders represent a failure of our humanity - which has depressing implications for everyone, even those not at the scene. :(
The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! - ;D] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.
So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...
"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"
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As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.
This is correct - I hope people read it well...
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Your analogy is specious, sir.
Someone threatening to jump from a building is a fellow human being in a pitiable state of insanity or despair. Hence the gloating bystanders represent a failure of our humanity - which has depressing implications for everyone, even those not at the scene. :(
The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! - ;D] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.
So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...
"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"
Still makes no sense. You're a fan of bodybulding, yet you are doing your part to bash something that:
1) We all have been given very few details about
2) will improve IFBB prize money
3) will pressure the IFBB to actually follow its own gut mandate
4) will improve quality of shows.
Truth is, we have been given very little information from Wayne about the PDI business model - it's a priate corporation. Obviously, when the health plan info was released, people called the hospital nonstop asking for details, then declared it a fraud when the kid at the frotn desk woudln't reveal info about a client... What hospital would? When other info is released, the IFBB toolbox will do everything it can to sabotage it (Dex, here's second at the O - stay home Sept 16. Vince Taylor, here's a supplement deal post-dated Jan 1, 07- stay home Sept 16th.)
Sheeit, if I was Wayne, i wouldn't be revealing much info either. Bob Chic and crew will probably bribe, beg, or threaten everyone you're involved with to make it a failure.
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No i spoke to Twinlab way before i signed and they didn't have a problem with it.Unlike another company i was talking to how was thinking of signing me but got pressure from you know who not to .Oh what a game the ifbb play pretty funny and childish.I am sure other companies would stepp up if the stupid threats from the IFBB stopped.
This is why I BUY TWINLAB. PERIOD.
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As I've mentioned before in another thread, It's a bit disengenuous to assert there was a $66K increase in Olympic money. It's all smoke and mirrors. When in actuality there was a total of only $6k added to the prize money. What they have done is to redistribute the money ALREADY there. You had $50K already there is some rediculous pose down round and $10K in another. There was NO increase in what the athletes were already getting except for $6k, and a redistributing of the original $60K. So let's not go tooting the IFBB or for that matter your horn Bob. Ok, if you got them to redistribute the wealth fine, but don't take credit for some phantom $66K prize money raise. It just makes you look foolish to those of us with a degree in accounting.
Not only that, but every contestant got $2k last year, right? So while $4k this year is good, it's not like they were getting zero last year.
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I think Rhino did the right thing. He clearly had good intentions and was trying to help all parties involved. The tone of his post clearly had no malice in it whatsoever . Vinny should see this and patch up his friendship. Rhino is a grown man who made an informed thoughtful executive decision based on the information he had in effort to do good to help the community. And in the end he squashed a destructive malicious rumour like a bug.
Also for those of you who are questioning his stature as a bodybuilder. He has a great physique, the kind that many of you have said you wish the bodybuilding community would go back to. He looks healthy and fit. The type we need way more of. Hel, What do you guys want?
Also, you should realize he was signed because he is a great Type. He is an All-american, handsome, squared jawed big white guy. He is what Americans love. Whether you like it or not this type sells big, the PDI was right on to sign him up. He will bring in more fans and sell more products than many other bigger extreme looking guys.
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I concurr with Rhino outing the info to save the rumours from destroying PDI (or whats left of it) however, he could of assumed a gimmick account ... just my two cents.
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Still makes no sense. You're a fan of bodybulding, yet you are doing your part to bash something that:
1) We all have been given very few details about
2) will improve IFBB prize money
3) will pressure the IFBB to actually follow its own gut mandate
4) will improve quality of shows.
Truth is, we have been given very little information from Wayne about the PDI business model - it's a priate corporation. Obviously, when the health plan info was released, people called the hospital nonstop asking for details, then declared it a fraud when the kid at the frotn desk woudln't reveal info about a client... What hospital would? When other info is released, the IFBB toolbox will do everything it can to sabotage it (Dex, here's second at the O - stay home Sept 16. Vince Taylor, here's a supplement deal post-dated Jan 1, 07- stay home Sept 16th.)
Sheeit, if I was Wayne, i wouldn't be revealing much info either. Bob Chic and crew will probably bribe, beg, or threaten everyone you're involved with to make it a failure.
I was only making a limited observation about the "jumper" analogy. And I'm on record elsewhere as saying that nothing would make me happier than if a rival organization was successful enough to kick the IFBB in the institutional nuts.
But the few things that we do know about the PDI give us more than enough cause for a rich, juicy skepticism.
1. It's being run by Wayne DeMilia - a man with a long and established track record of screwing over bodybuilders. [Whether at his own behest or as a hatchet man for the Weiders making no difference to my mind.]
2. It's now down to a grand total of one marquee competitor and "pros" determined essentially by fiat. Comparisons to the Harlem Globetrotters playing the Washington Generals come to mind.
3. Qualifying events "rescheduled". ::)
4. Yahoo e-mail address. No comment necessary.
By all means, 240 - keep holding out for a hero. But it ain't Wayne, babe. It ain't Wayne you're looking for.
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I see the PDI offering these positives:
1. An alternative....gets boring seeing the same top 3 guys at the Olympia
2. More competitions and $ for pro athletes. Additionally, more pro athletes. There aren't that many male BBing pros.
3. A return to more aesthetic muscular physiques. Huge IMO. The IFBB judges are inconsistant and mass above all wins at the bigger IFBB shows. This is an opportunity to standardize scoring from ground zero and be consistant. Way too many guys with health problems these days chasing extremes. The blocky physiques and bloated guts have gotten way out of hand for 90% of fans.
4. More excitement and entertainment with shows. Posing round, scoreboard, crowd interaction, etc.
5. The ability to bring in some new names from Europe and other countries. Europeans often fight an uphill battle in the IFBB unless they are promoted hard.
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The PDI is not a human being. It is a business entity [allegedly! - ;D] - a legal/financial construct that exists only in drily-written documents sitting in a file cabinet somewhere. It cannot "die" as men die. And its demise has no bearing on the viability of non-bodybuilding-related, more-intelligently-conceived enterprises.
So, in the words of Zach de la Rocha...
"Burn! Burn! Yes, you're gonna burn!"
But the posters on this board see the PDI not as a business entity but as Wayne and Lee and all the other bodybuilders trying to pursue happiness and prosperity. Wanting them to jump or "burn" is completely illogical and unhealthy to the bb community as a whole and it reveals something about the gloating bystanders.
The only ones that want to see the PDI demise are the rubber-neckers and the people and representatives with a vested interest in the IFBB.
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Yes. i have constructed an analogy which clearly puts the IFBB fan/athlete perspective into the grocery store environment so that all can understand it.
High-fiving because you are now working under the thumb of a monopoly - dancing and cheering as your only bargaining chip walks out the door - the ultimate in self-defeat.
Dancing and cheering? I believe that falls squarely on you and other folks who were singing the praises of PDI, doing the happy dance of joy, and all but writing the eulogy of the IFBB, before PDI even got one contest off the ground.
PDI was supposed to take over. Disgruntled IFBB pros were supposed to migrate en masse, like the Israelites during the Exodus from Egypt. PDI was supposed to be the "promised land". DeMilla, with the robe and staff, was the deliverer (the one-time "prince" of the IFBB, banished to the desert), now returning to free the "slaves" of bodybuilding from the evil Pharoah Weider, ruler of IFBB to PDI, the alleged land, flowing with (Muscle) Milk and (fitness) Honeys.
Heck, the only thing missing was a Negro spiritual:
When musclemen were in Weider-land
LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!
The mass so great, they could not stand
LET MY PEOPLE GO!!!
And, of course, this "Exodus" was to be chronicled in the so-called "hardcore" bodybuilding magazine, known as Muscular Development.
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But the posters on this board see the PDI not as a business entity but as Wayne and Lee and all the other bodybuilders trying to pursue happiness and prosperity.
Don't go all Jefferson on me now. :)
Everyone likes Lee, I think. Surely no one begrudges him collecting an extra paycheck for beating up on some wannabes onstage. But surely he'll do fine either way.
[Though maybe I shouldn't presume. What about it, Lee? Are you relying on your NOC check to put chicken breasts on the table? :) ]
As for Wayne, why shouldn't we wish him ill? His unpopularity is richly deserved, IMHO.
I guess it would be nice for the little guys to have a "AAA league" to do their thing in. I still see no reason for optimism that the PDI is a viable route for giving them one.
But you've adeptly played the sympathy card. So what the hell. Best of luck to them.
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But you've adeptly played the sympathy card. So what the hell. Best of luck to them.
Thanks, its one of my tools. Glad to see you have a heart.
I tried it again with my Rhino post above. Any thoughts on that one?
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No matter how good Lee is and has proven to be he should not go into this contest lightly....many times a much more successful boxer has been beaten because he didn't prepare 100%.
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Nearly 2 feet of 'rope'. This is the good stuff.
FYI... it didn't fall apart when extracted from the commode.
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Notice the density and texture.
This nicely signifies the elimination of long-term waste.
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He is an All-american, handsome, squared jawed big white guy.
Do you find him attractive, Beavis? heh heh, heh heh...
Well, I've posted before that no one but Galanti has any standing to bitch about Rhino's "disclosure". Correspondingly, I would say he's the only one with the right to let him off the hook.
Didn't get my panties in a bunch either way.
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Vinny; Don't you know that by telling just 1 person, it isn't a secret anymore.
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Vinny; Don't you know that by telling just 1 person, it isn't a secret anymore.
Hey its all good....I'm not upset anymore, I ate pizza today for the first time in 12 weeks....LOL
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Hey its all good....I'm not upset anymore, I ate pizza today for the first time in 12 weeks....LOL
haha like its real hard to stay away from a food for 12 weeks. ::)
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And I just polished off a pack of swedish fish, and a kitkat....
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No doubt some shit food lifts spirits
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Pro BBs don't compete for $$$money,they can't be that Stupid.
lol...good point.
Sandra
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vin's alright he'll be back 8)
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Hey Vinny been a long time since our last contact, too bad to hear that :-\ wish you get well soon and see u on stage mate..even tho wish to see u in the NOC ;D
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And I just polished off a pack of swedish fish, and a kitkat....
No ice cream?????
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No ice cream?????
Hmmmmm......
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Hey Vinny been a long time since our last contact, too bad to hear that :-\ wish you get well soon and see u on stage mate..even tho wish to see u in the NOC ;D
Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
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Any Pics of this TJ guy??
Actually Any RECENT pics on any of the competitors??
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Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
TJ is gonna beat Lee? There is no way, Lee is the only top tier pro who is supossedly gonna do this silly show. The rest of the guys could not even get a pro card, let alone place top 3 in any pro show.
Oh yeah as I predicted the PDI will be dead in less than a year.
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Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
Wow, Jack no where to be found ;)
Vinny, all the best and speedy recovery....Frey will place top 3, he is the new Berry Demey.....
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Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
this is what i've been saying!
TJ is a legit threat. Lee comes in smooth, TJ will clean his clock.
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http://tjschoenborn.com/
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Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
Thanks Buddy! I am going to do the best that I can. To be on stage next to Lee will be a thrill, to beat him would be amazing! Your confidence in means a lot! - Now go please eat some ice cream for me!
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this is what i've been saying!
TJ is a legit threat. Lee comes in smooth, TJ will clean his clock.
Thanks 240. As I said Crystal, Jake and I are doing our best. A lot of pressure to live up to these predictions!
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;D :P
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Sami good luck....I wish I was mixing it up with you guys.
I might not even attend the show now, looks like VACATION time is calling...looking to book a trip to ARUBA....
Here is my top 5 prediction for the NOC:
1st place TJ...this guy has GREAT balance, and comes in diced with LOTS of muscle.
2nd place Lee...I only say 2nd because Lee usually has smooth legs
3rd place Sami....everything pops out when this guy its a pose...its all an illusion, his muscle just explodes when he hits a shot...great balance
4th place Frey....huge, small waist, reminds me of STRYDOM with a BACK
5th place Stephan Stenton....this guy is one peeled bastard....rock hard and grainy
6th place Sean Allen.....IF he comes in the way his potential is...he will place higher....lots of muscle with good lines and balance
what place do you think Rhino will be in
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Do i smell a challenge? Shit ok i will go to the gym.I was going to take today off :)
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what place do you think Rhino will be in
Before I say....what was Jacks last contest and placing, was it 7th at the NY Mets Masters division?
I'm not being sarcastic...seriously asking/
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Do i smell a challenge? Shit ok i will go to the gym.I was going to take today off :)
TJ lives in a very small town. The only thing there is to do around there is 1) shovel snow, and 2) do cardio. And since it's summer, there is no snow to be shoveled. IMO, Lee, if you miss your peak it will be TJ and Sami going head to head for the title. But if you come in on peak, you should be able to crush as planned. Of course, if you need someone to babysit your new Mercedes while you pose, I am here...
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TJ is gonna beat Lee? There is no way, Lee is the only top tier pro who is supossedly gonna do this silly show. The rest of the guys could not even get a pro card, let alone place top 3 in any pro show.
Oh yeah as I predicted the PDI will be dead in less than a year.
Do you really think who ever places in the IFBB means the same Placing in the World (All Federations) ?except Ronnie, Jay, Gustavo, Dexter and Victor anyone in the top 20 in Mr. O can be beaten by certain BBers from other feds. There are still a lot of Good Bodybuilder with solid physiques in Germany and Russia who have not exposed yet and might never ever cause the path to become a pro is complicated specially if you are not and American.
And if they go with weight categories the midgets from China and Vietnam will crush all oppositions.
We just got used to the Olympia mean s the world. But there are still a lot of Good physiques that don’t make it. so I wont be surprised if they showed up in the PDI and made a huge impact. We still don’t know the complete line up so there are still some X factors.
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Before I say....what was Jacks last contest and placing, was it 7th at the NY Mets Masters division?
I'm not being sarcastic...seriously asking/
I'm not sure, Vince. I still can't find any records of him winning the NABBA North American. I took it initially as face value but I don't have any listing. If it was my biggest contest I won, then I would be actively promoting it. The only thing I found is that he's a powerlighting champion but nothing really speaks of bodybuilding. Also no list of the contests he's done
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I'm not sure, Vince. I still can't find any records of him winning the NABBA North American. I took it initially as face value but I don't have any listing. If it was my biggest contest I won, then I would be actively promoting it. The only thing I found is that he's a powerlighting champion but nothing really speaks of bodybuilding. Also no list of the contests he's done
Said the pot to the kettle.
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Do i smell a challenge? Shit ok i will go to the gym.I was going to take today off :)
Lee if you are going to train today then I better get in the gym too! LOL! I just want to say what a honor it will be to compete with you where ever I place!
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Of course, if you need someone to babysit your new Mercedes while you pose, I am here...
You think she's into guys that like to sit in hot tubs and jack off into the water ???
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You think she's into guys that like to sit in hot tubs and jack off into the water ???
you would be perfect for her if that was the case.
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you would be perfect for her if that was the case.
good one ::)
Don't make me smack the yellow/green/rainbow pride off your teeth.
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This is like all the Walmart employees, laughing and dancing in the parking lot as the Target across the street closes. As they walk inside, Walmart mgmt laughs a bit louder.
Why? Well, now Walmart mgmt is now able to lower wages, cut hours, and eliminate benefits. After all, where else can the employees work now? Mgmt no longer has to worry about keeping shoppers happy either, and raises prices. After all, there are no other places in town to shop!
Cashiers will giggle as they work for less. Customers will laugh as they pay more and wait in longer lines to buy from a lower selection. They'll all claim a victory. They'll high-five and thank their Union rep for chasing Target out of town.
Be careful what you wish for.
great speech...
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I thought 240 said he was married, things just doesnt seem to add up :-\
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Do you really think who ever places in the IFBB means the same Placing in the World (All Federations) ?except Ronnie, Jay, Gustavo, Dexter and Victor anyone in the top 20 in Mr. O can be beaten by certain BBers from other feds. There are still a lot of Good Bodybuilder with solid physiques in Germany and Russia who have not exposed yet and might never ever cause the path to become a pro is complicated specially if you are not and American.
And if they go with weight categories the midgets from China and Vietnam will crush all oppositions.
We just got used to the Olympia mean s the world. But there are still a lot of Good physiques that don’t make it. so I wont be surprised if they showed up in the PDI and made a huge impact. We still don’t know the complete line up so there are still some X factors.
Never meant any disrespect to the other BBs, agree they are great BBs! Just not at top 5 IFBB caliber. Just the way it is and Im talking the BIG shows, Olympia, ASC. Some could place top 10 at a smaller show probally.
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so to recap...what happened because i aint reading 15 pages..? thanks
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Never meant any disrespect to the other BBs, agree they are great BBs! Just not at top 5 IFBB caliber. Just the way it is and Im talking the BIG shows, Olympia, ASC. Some could place top 10 at a smaller show probally.
We are on the same page ;D
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I wish the NOC would just hurry up and come and go. No official website, no competitor list, no publicity (oops forgot the poster), and no marquee names. Jack London and Vinny G are alright but Wayne had better hope Godzilla is guest posing because more people in New York will be watching broadway bullshit that night than the NOC. Its true. Are they gonna broadcast it on the internet? Oh thats right no website. I'll be more interested about who is in attendance than who is onstage unless Lee Priest is competing.
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Recap....
Some guy named Vinny is out.
The poster on page one has "ass" on it.
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Recap....
Some guy named Vinny is out.
The poster on page one has "ass" on it.
oh jesus LOL i thought badass was 1 word